Depending how they reference your progression, he could become higher than a lord commissar, but not a commander
#40k-lore-chat
jovial eagle
cerulean saddle
?
commissar ranks are outside of the guard
and the inquisition is separate too lol
thats like saying "a military police officer can rank higher than a naval gun operator but lower than a manager of mcdonalds"
placid sable
Inquisition is above everyone, save for the emperor himself
which makes me wonder if a custodian can order them to sit down and chill
cerulean saddle
the "ranks" of the imperium go
emperor
custodes
high lords of terra
inquisition
and anything below that are all intertwined and convoluted
storm jungle
Depending how they reference your progression, he could become higher than a lor...
I need this now thank you
crisp heath
Mechanicus and sm are both "outside" of that order
Custodes can sit down just about anyone
storm jungle
Yeah it doesnt really matter if you're "outside" of anything
cerulean saddle
same goes for commissars and guard, they are 2 separate entities
storm jungle
the imperium's branches as seperate as they are, are still technically dangled together
cerulean saddle
a commissar, even a new recruit, outranks the highest commanders in the guard
placid sable
they have to be, Commissars are posted to units from different worlds to avoid, bias
crisp heath
If the custodes tell you you're a bitch then thats your official designation now
cerulean saddle
exactly, they are military police
storm jungle
If the custodes tell you you're a bitch then thats your official designation now
You dropped this
🏅
cerulean saddle
custodes are the highest "ranking" people in the entire imperium
placid sable
if they're good they train the new blood in how to be a proper soldier, with the help of a veteran sergeant
cerulean saddle
but because of its nature, inquisitors would probably ignore their orders
cerulean saddle
tts is some peoples exclusive source of lore 🤦♂️
placid sable
always go with two sources
crisp heath
Lbr some people don't actually care about lore much
cerulean saddle
honestly the wikis are pretty reliable, some literally just copypaste the codexes lol
placid sable
I can't look at custodes without that bloody jojo music playing anymore
plucky moth
I legit couldn't care less about lore in terms of like, actually arguing about it
I do find it interesting tho
storm jungle
honestly the wikis are pretty reliable, some literally just copypaste the codexe...
yep the 40k wiki
those guys suck
storm jungle
I can't look at custodes without that bloody jojo music playing anymore
also its okay my friend, you'll recover
in time
crisp heath
I can't look at custodes without that bloody jojo music playing anymore
And that's like... bad?
placid sable
no
storm jungle
AYAYAYAAAAAAAAAAAY
crisp heath
I think it's amazing
placid sable
but for EVERYONE ELSE it is
plucky moth
plus lore is all just a tzeentchian psyop lmao you're all being played
storm jungle
tzeentch is a git
cerulean saddle
**AYAYAYAAAAAAAAAAAY**
ricardo milos bursts out of his armour
placid sable
I've said many a time I won't get dark angels for the reason that I will go full TTS on them
storm jungle
"REPENT MOTHERFUCKER"
placid sable
our suspicions have been confirmed! he has a suspicious book!
crisp heath
I want to get BA just to give them all gorgeous long hair
storm jungle
I love the fact that even in art they try to make the blood angels ugly
then you just see this greek statue looking blonde men in red armor and you're like
placid sable
everyone gets nose bleeds!
crisp heath
Look, you can be covered in blood and rabid and still be beautiful
placid sable
I'd blame Sanguinius, but then I'd be committing the biggest crime in the universe
I need a minute, I'm being a blood angel during Sanguilina now
crisp heath
It's definitely his fault and we should be grateful
plucky moth
placid sable
this implies the perfect hawk angel boy was ever wrong
well, he was once, why did that beautiful bastard have to go and die!
crisp heath
So we could get murals of his martyrdom
placid sable
where's that walking plot device that can bring people back from the dead?
bring me Gulliman's side bit, and find me the vengeful spirit, I want to punch Abbadon in the face, repeatedly, and get the best primarch (don't @ me!) back!
storm jungle
Im gonna admit id rather have Sanguinius back then Guilliman lol
storm jungle
I like Guilliman, i dont care about the memes hes a good guy, but god sanguinius tho
placid sable
can we trade?
crisp heath
But it makes sense that its guiliman
storm jungle
Yeeee sadly
placid sable
all we've had to do is make room on Macragge's honour for the wings and repaint it red, and replace all the toilet seat icons
crisp heath
He's dutiful and boring so he won't fix everything immediately
serene eagle
Sanguinious isn't a logistics god tho
storm jungle
Hes handsome
serene eagle
What the imperium needs is good governance
placid sable
no, but he can make you do things just by asking
crisp heath
Sanguinius smiles a t you and you'll do anything
serene eagle
Logistics>looks
storm jungle
Sanguinius is pretty much THE most well known lad in the imperium
crisp heath
Just for a chance to see his smile again
placid sable
do not underestimate the power of a really hansome chap asking politely, and then smiling
storm jungle
Looks > Mememistics
placid sable
and saying something nice about you
crisp heath
I mean he looks like a literal angel you can't say no
Unless you're horus
And horus was a cunt
placid sable
I wonder if his wings can give hugs?
storm jungle
Yes.
placid sable
the most perfect thing would probably the double hug, and "I believe in you" being softly whispered into your ear by his golden voice
I'm not crying! my hab unit is leaking rain water from outside
crisp heath
"You're doing well, I'm proud of you. Everything will be fine" and you're left with a couple feathers on your back
placid sable
those are going on my helmet
storm jungle
HOLY SANGUINIUS, BLESS MY RAVAGED [REDACTED]
placid sable
if Kruber can pull off the tri feather look, then I can pull it off to
placid sable
Sanguinius posistive affirmations and personal attention ASMR
quiet pier
hünger for börgár heretic börgár ?
storm jungle
hünger for börgár heretic börgár ?
Yes.
placid sable
followed up by Punching the heresy out of horus ASMR
plucky moth
Horus Death Noises ASMR
crisp heath
The joy of painting with sanguinius
placid sable
wasn't he, actually really good at painitng?
crisp heath
The blood angels are artists and artisans
crisp heath
They relax like that
"And we'll paint another little guardsman here because everyone needs a friend"
placid sable
we need to find a artist who likes 40K as much as we do, this would make great wall paper material
storm jungle
MY HEART
crisp heath
Im an art student but im slow
placid sable
it's a shame that bringing Sangy back would ruin more of the universe than fix it
storm jungle
Sadly
crisp heath
He lives on in our hearts
quiet pier
!
crisp heath
If i didnt have 15 assignments I'd draw it
placid sable
I mean, all we have to do is punch abaddon, steal his ride, and nag gulliman until we get our hawkboy back
I'm sure all the losses we sustain would be worth it, after all, it's Sangy!
viscid relic
so fellas we decide which hive city we are jumping into
meager wadi
It's the hive city of Tertium
primal tide
The hive city of Sugma
thin horizon
Really? I read it was Ligma
meager sparrow
Underneath Deez
astral hornet
Sanguinius is pretty much THE most well known lad in the imperium
Robot Girlyman is up there
crisp heath
there's literally an imperial holiday named after sanguinius
celest dome
Slaaneshmas is better
atomic pelican
Are Necron mooks(warriors and other lowranks) mindless killbots? Or was that just Oldcrons
cerulean wagon
think thats still about
atomic pelican
Ahh ayt
thin horizon
they got a good reason now at least
theyve basically got super alzhiemers due to the reanimation protocols
primal tide
they are mindless killbots, and a lot of them were actually necrontyr children when the biotransference happened
thin horizon
TFW you got rekt by super cancer
thin horizon
imagine. Cancer is bad, but you are born into SUPER CANCER
like damn, what a roll of the die that is
primal tide
its in Indomitus
theres a named necron zozar, his wife and children go into the soul forges at the same time as him, and he comes out with his memory and personality, his wife does as well but shortly goes crazy from grief
and the children come out of it as mindless robots
rotund siren
metaphorically
thin horizon
No LITERALLY do not!
hey, question
is the growth cycle and society of Ogryns ever really explained?
rotund siren
I don't think so?
we know that their society was basically stone age on a large cold planet
iirc
thin horizon
theres multiple planets of em
rotund siren
but their growth cycle, as in how long it takes them to age and the like, isn't really explained
rotund siren
at least, to my knowledge
crisp heath
i would think they're born bigger and just more or less grow up the same as normal humans
last rune
@thin horizon i never saw a ogryn female kekw
crisp heath
that's prolly cause they look more or less the same as the males
crisp heath
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/e/ec/Imperial_Guard_-_Ogryn_Squad_4_(Squad_Mate).jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141202115018 this is supposed to be one?
last rune
dimorphism sexual is one of the biggest trait of humans
last rune
but is big
crisp heath
but is big
have you seen women without makeup in your life or not
thin horizon
just something that popped into my head
last rune
women are short, have breast, less hairy, small jaws...
crisp heath
you think so?
i've seen some legit hairy ladies
and some very hairless guys
the average sex height difference only comes up to 10cm
atomic pelican
They'd have to have gals, weren't all abhumans p much separate from humanity for the longest time an d usch
It's probably just a case of "women in lore, not on tabletop" ex) IG
Because of lack of models
and such
crisp heath
the ogryn kind of look like ogres and i'd imagine the imperial guard just probably keeps them in the same fatigues with their hair shaved or short even if you get a female
thin horizon
i mean also, they are focused on survival.... In a survival situation, its gonna be the man doing the fighting, EG you got the male ogryns going to war
that might change over time with the equalizing of the Imperium
last rune
they are matriarchal society
thin horizon
you mean hill giants
atomic pelican
Imperium uses both women and men in basically everything
thin horizon
ogryns are not
last rune
and woman have more brains
atomic pelican
Excluding SoB and Astartes
last rune
cold be
crisp heath
yes and SoS
thin horizon
JCMAL id argue that point..... but ok
atomic pelican
yess them too
crisp heath
otherwise it's entry by ability (or nepotism)
tall fjord
i mean, say what you will, i'd expect a female ogryn to be more of a beefcake then a regular guardsman
thin horizon
but yes, assumnig the same sexual dimorphism as humans, it would make sense the males are larger, stronger, and meaner
mighty, of course, they are probsably 1.5 times as large as a male cadian
easily
maybe 2 times
crisp heath
i'd imagine that the difference between a male and female ogryn is still not so big as to not use a female as a giant meat shield/battering ram if need be
thin horizon
yea, but i mean if you are picking them up as a fresh inclusion to the Imperium
you would expect the males to be the ones to pick up the clubs id expect
crisp heath
then you'll want the biggest, toughest ones and that will probably be males
last rune
JCMAL id argue that point..... but ok
i never saw a female ratling too
tall fjord
i imagine the sexist guardsmen party would have a weird time. "wait.....the ogryn is our sniper? and you only put her there because they're a woman?"
"they dual wield autocannons"
"why would a sniper..."
thin horizon
what?
atomic pelican
You've never seen alot of gal imperium models because WH40k was made to appeal to middle school boys. They exist in lore JC
FDNFND
Iirc that's also why gal space marines got cut
They didn't sell
crisp heath
well, consider how many models wear helmets
thin horizon
i mean.... the SoB are literally just there for diversity quotas if you ask me. Id buy Female Space marines all day
atomic pelican
Pretty much
thin horizon
Gimme Muscle Mommy, please, GW
crisp heath
nah, i like the sob/space marines divide
tall fjord
ehhhh, personally i like the sisters but that's just me. I would have loved to see the sobs in DoW2
crisp heath
i just want sob sculpts without tits
atomic pelican
People would buy gal space marines now, u just gotta remember the different culture of like
the early days when 40k came out
and set that lore in the 90s
+The shifted target audience now
thin horizon
I mean, the thing is, people cant divide between "butch" and "strong" anymore
or cant seem to
crisp heath
you can literally just put female heads on your space marines tho
atomic pelican
That's tru
crisp heath
if you really want female space marines
thin horizon
they assume they gotta have casius cain jawlines and bench trucks
crisp heath
and they will look 100% accurate
atomic pelican
I mean you can HC literally anything
crisp heath
or you don't even have to, give them helmets
thin horizon
JCMAL because girls literally cant handle gene seed, you dolt?
at least at this time? im sure thatll change
crisp heath
there was apparently an implication of female custodes
atomic pelican
Yeee
thin horizon
really?
crisp heath
@last rune geneseed?
thin horizon
interesting
tall fjord
ehhhh, yeah but at the same time i imagine they'll use primaris marines as an excuse to start doing new shit
thin horizon
wait, isnt that sisters of silence though?
atomic pelican
The writers for the lore were discussing making custodes capable of being gals, then the model line came out before they finished and it was only male
thin horizon
or are they just blanks?
tall fjord
"the OLD spehss mahreens couldn't be women, we're making changes now"
last rune
JCMAL because girls literally cant handle gene seed, you dolt?
at least space marine have excuses, even adult males have problems with gene-seed
crisp heath
sisters of silence are just blanks
thin horizon
right
thin horizon
Look, if i were the emperor, sitting forever in a throne, suffering, id DEMAND my guards be women
crisp heath
it's stupid arguing that a line that contains fully armored figures is male or female
they're armored, everything looks the fucking same
thin horizon
cause he probably wants to die, might as well have something to oggle while he waits
tall fjord
guard is manlier than SM's are anyways
crisp heath
That would be slaanesh shite
tall fjord
even the female guardsmen
thin horizon
for real, guard has the biggest nuts in the galaxy
crisp heath
they're whatever sex word of god states for named characters or whatever you decide
thin horizon
including the female guard
atomic pelican
The armored models usually come with unarmored heads too, "But the helmets could be!" isn't exactly the best of arguments
crisp heath
you can just give them female heads
atomic pelican
Honestly idc if they do or not, I'd just be in it to see neckbeards lose their mind
tall fjord
that said i kinda hope darktide isn't only about wailing on chaos, it'd be cool to fuck with orks, nids, crons and tau too
crisp heath
i kitbash most stuff anyway
tall fjord
fuck up some tau in close combat
thin horizon
crisp heath
Someone insert the image of the guardsmen charging at the word bearer with a grenade
atomic pelican
That doesn't change actual canon/etc/rep
thin horizon
you were so concerned about if you could, you didnt stop to ask if you SHOULD
last rune
Look, if i were the emperor, sitting forever in a throne, suffering, id DEMAND m...
yea yea, they can do your nails
crisp heath
imo it's still not the problem that there aren't canon female space marines but that the sob don't get attention and are depicted stupidly
thin horizon
"All custodes, it has been declared that tuesdays are assless chaps days!"
crisp heath
you have an organization that is all male. you have a second, similar but sorta different organization that is all female.
thin horizon
SoB just annoying me honestly. They go between total idiots to invincible depending on the writter
and the minute
atomic pelican
Yee, tho that can apply to most things in 40k
crisp heath
technically equal representation, but SoB don't get proper attention and ppl often write them stupidly
tall fjord
to be fair, to my understanding the quality of the writing can be all over the fucking place
tall fjord
i only read the ciaphas cain stuff but i hear stories
thin horizon
all im saying is the SoB got blown the fuck out by a single like 6 man team of alpha legion
crisp heath
then again, people often write space marines like retards too
cough cough grey knights
atomic pelican
Space marines are super saturated in writing so they're gonna be the worst offenders of SUPER VARIETY
super oversaturated in writing and well
everything.
tall fjord
cain is the only hero we need, because he's the greatest sci-fi hero of all time, a dude i can relate to
crisp heath
Space marines are male in lore for a reason I think
atomic pelican
Sort of but not rlly
tall fjord
dude just wants to party and he keeps getting thrown into shit
crisp heath
i liked the teacup deathwatch fella in Eisenhorn.
crisp heath
Dont they contain genes from the emperor
thin horizon
I think Gaunt is cooler than Cain, honestly
rotund siren
it is true, it's lazy
tall fjord
"we'll be okay this time, i have put us in the way WAY back we will never, EVER see action here"
"CAIN HOW DID YOU KNOW CHAOS WOULD HIT US IN THE BACK?!"
thin horizon
what WOULDNT be lazy to you, thats the question? I can call anything lazy
tall fjord
"........FUCK"
rotund siren
men have X and Y chromosomes. just make the seed have 2 X instead. boom
crisp heath
you can do a lot, lore-wise with the all male space marines thing anyway
thin horizon
sometimes you just gotta deal
crisp heath
laughs in homoromantic undertones
atomic pelican
Thermian argumentatives
crisp heath
There shouldn't really be female space marjes since it doesn't make sense in lore
storm jungle
There shouldn't really be female space marjes since it doesn't make sense in lor...
It does
tall fjord
wait
crisp heath
Really?
rotund siren
men have X and Y chromosomes. just make the seed have 2 X instead. boom
As I just said
last rune
I heard it a thousand times
? why is lazy?
storm jungle
Because female space marines existed lol
rotund siren
GENETICS IS EASY WHEN YOU CAN MAKE PEOPLE SUPERHUMAN
tall fjord
i just realized, 40k fans are like weebs, because we've been having the same arguments for 20 years like they do
crisp heath
Who
storm jungle
they just written them out since they didnt make enough sales
crisp heath
What are rhey
atomic pelican
40k is just kpop for men
rotund siren
lmao
storm jungle
and the mold for them was horrible
crisp heath
RIP then
tall fjord
people have argued female space marines since 40k was new, just like how anime fans still whine over the same anime
storm jungle
Yeeee i agree
crisp heath
Erased from lore like so many others that didn't sell
thin horizon
All im saying is Fulgrim is implied to have fooled around with his men, and now hes a demon. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
last rune
and the mold for them was horrible
even in the lore they didnt exist
crisp heath
i think a better explanation is that the emperor got tired of boobs and wanted to look at endless rows of oiled, roided up pecs and man butts
rotund siren
just dont come to me with "muh geneseed"
very true. i hate that
storm jungle
even in the lore they didnt exist
Want me to get the article lol
tall fjord
they change and flip flop on the lore all the time
atomic pelican
Most ppl I see who talk about femmarines don't actually really care that much, It's just the arguments against them is stupid
+I think everyone would LOVE to see neckbeards go apeshit beacuse RREEEEE DIVERSITY QUOTA
rotund siren
i think a better explanation is that the emperor got tired of boobs and wanted t...
Emperor gay confirmed
tall fjord
in the lore they did exist till they didn't till they had another argument till they didn't till matt ward till matt ward AGAIN and over and over
crisp heath
Honestly I think what CSM would've done to them would be horrible
Like very very horrible
atomic pelican
Stupid sexy Fulgrim
thin horizon
Look, if im being honest, i dont want female marines because it would be a constant reminder that my head isnt being crushed between an amazon's thighs RIGHT NOW
crisp heath
Which is god awful
tall fjord
i mean you could make the same argument with say, female catachans or female ogryn
crisp heath
yeah
rotund siren
you know what's weird. why aren't there any crab or lizard xenos?
atomic pelican
There are minor xenos
thin horizon
they were!
rotund siren
like, crabs have happened 5 times
atomic pelican
drukhari!
crisp heath
there's snakemen yes
atomic pelican
The Tau have a auxillary called Nicassar who are psychic bears
crisp heath
now drukhari are a shining example of an egalitarian libertarian society
rotund siren
There's literally a WORD for when things evolve into crabs!
thin horizon
there were crab/ant things
thin horizon
back in the Orc wars
crisp heath
No way
atomic pelican
Yess
rotund siren
and you expect me to believe there aren't any xenos without that
storm jungle
THEY WERE GIANT SPIDERS
rotund siren
OH COOL
thin horizon
yes physic polar bears
storm jungle
ON A PLANET CALLED MURDER
thin horizon
the tau use them
crisp heath
HELL YEAH
storm jungle
DOES THAT COUNT DFKSJKJDFS
dull flame
Good ol Sslyth. Love killing them in Inquisitor Martyr
thin horizon
oh yea, i forgot about planet Murder
tall fjord
if we're delving into the extra stuff outside the main factions we'll be here all day
rotund siren
ON A PLANET CALLED MURDER
lmao that is amazing, thank you
crisp heath
there were also those spiderlike things in eisenhorn
they were freaky
PSYCHIC BEARS CANNOT EXIST
thin horizon
they do
crisp heath
they had fingers they could arrange into faces
atomic pelican
They're weird
storm jungle
lmao that is amazing, thank you
Anytime my son
thin horizon
psychic polar bears, mate
rotund siren
PSYCHIC BEARS CANNOT EXIST
Vostroyan Second Born
wide jewel
Spider? I 'ardly even know her
crisp heath
i read that passage and i was like yup im xenophobic now
"Oh psyker bear of the warp what is your wisdom?"
autistic pain screeching from the confused bear
atomic pelican
Iirc the Nicassar were like the first auxillary the Tau met
crisp heath
there are also the hrud and the slaught
last rune
slann were reptilians, i think they were extinct in 40k
rotund siren
rough
storm jungle
rotund siren
what the fuck
rotund siren
what the fuck is that
atomic pelican
froggy chair animate
rotund siren
and why is it MOVING
storm jungle
DODODODODOOOO
atomic pelican
Tfw you get up from your chair and the gellar fields go down
crisp heath
plucky moth
crisp heath
Do iron warriors embrace chaos?
open summit
They're more or less Chaos Undivided last I checked.
Most of them are just pissy that the Imperial Fists were the Emperor's best boys.
crisp heath
they're less pro-chaos and more anti-imperium
dull flame
Two of my three fav Traitor legions are kinda Meh on chaos.
Night Lords and Alpha Legion ❤️
open summit
I'm pretty sure the meme goes Alpha Legion is still technically loyalist.
Night Lords are just batshit insane.
dull flame
Top 3 in order: Death Guard, Night Lords, Alpha Legion
open summit
I think if I ever got into the tabletop game I'd build Thousand Sons as my traitor legion.
dull flame
Spoilered for Nurgle reasons.
rotund siren
that is pretty gnarly
dull flame
Plague Marines are def one of the last Astartes I'd wanna come up against
Probably tied with Emperor's Children
crisp heath
emperor's children might at least play baller music
vast cliff
I mean puking yourself to death sure beats whatever a slaaneshi has in mind
crisp heath
i wouldn't be sure
if i have to contract space aids i'd rather do it by actually getting laid
atomic pelican
They'd be more likely to peel you
vast cliff
I mean, you know there’s at least two miles of rusted barbed wire involved with the emperor’s children tho
crisp heath
i'm a sadomasochist
knotty cove
little blade
It's not just brutal pleasures when it comes to Slaanesh
It can be really random ones
xD
Like squid said
Chess lover
Or a warrior who wishes perfection in their swordsmanship.
rotund siren
Lucius?
crisp heath
Im really obsessed with jewelry do you think i need to stop before it gets heretical?
rotund siren
No. Embrace it (but don't tell anyone I said that).
tepid peak
thin horizon
so are beastmen still considered abhumans in 40k, or are they just mutants now?
or is it all grey area?
ancient kayak
I believe so just no longer mentioned really like Squats
It’s same for the moot in Fantasy they exist but GW don’t really want them to so never mention them
atomic pelican
I'm p sure they still exist within some Space Wolves fluff(?)
celest dome
Beastmen abhuman are really rare on the Loyalist side, there is still 1 in Necromunda but other than that they mostly went to chaos
But what Aun'Va may speaking about is the Wulfen (Degenerating SM)
mint hill
atomic pelican
Oo oki
celest dome
Also Beastmen in Fantasy are more diverse than those we have seen in 40k
With Ind having Beastmen centred around Tiger, Elephant and other Jungle creature (not always Chaos Inclined and more civilised than their more famous brethren)
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/9/9e/Warhammer_Tiger_Beastmen.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20200731211600
The south pole has Beastfiend who are more corrupted
There is also a group of Beastmen that resemble big Ape in the jungle of Lustria or Araby (I can't remember for sure)
And lastly (iirc) there is also a group of River/Sea Beastmen that resemble amphibian who are not really friendly with anyone
barren tapir
When big E was still around there were regiments of beastmen in the service of the imperium, after he was gravely wounded and the rise of the fanatical imperial cult the beastmen were seen with crescent disgust and so many switched to chaos to survive... They are still listed as abhumans by the administratum and i think that there are still some planets with them that are "loyal" even tough the imperium doesn't care about them
brittle hinge
No place for furries in the imperium
celest dome
Space Wolf ?
Like the biggest Furries of the Setting ?
brittle hinge
Difference between wearing a fursuit to being called a furry
celest dome
So the people who have natural mutation that make them look like half-beast are furry but the Wolf cosplayer are not ?
gentle aurora
Space Wolves geneseed gives them a lycanthropy-like mutation. Some members of the chapter actually become full-on Lycanthropes after succumbing to “the curse.”
celest dome
Wulfen
celest dome
Have Stormwolf being fallen Space Wolf been retconned ?
vast frigate
There are still fallen spacewolves but im not sure who stormwolf is
celest dome
Their wolf mount, maybe they are not named Stormwolf (that would be their plane)
verbal nest
In 40k, are there any lesser good guy gods like shallya n Taal and stuff
Or is it just emperor and his gang of abused manchildren
barren tapir
Mankind doesn't have gods like in fantasy, the emperor is the only "god" worshipped and the primarchs are seen as demi gods...
verbal nest
What about the saints
storm jungle
Saints are basically saints
verbal nest
Like Celestine, idk what she is exactly
verbal nest
So they're like lesser primarchs?
storm jungle
I'll let Blank take it over
verbal nest
Am noob lol
barren tapir
*I'll let Blank take it over*
Feel free to continue if you want
barren tapir
So they're like lesser primarchs?
No, they are similar to greater demons but of the emperor
verbal nest
So....what's a greater demon
barren tapir
Primarchs are still mortal living beings
verbal nest
Are greater demons like champions of their god?
barren tapir
The loyal one i mean
verbal nest
Coz I know champions are a thing
barren tapir
Are greater demons like champions of their god?
Kinda, demons are just part of the "god" that created them, but greater demons enjoy far more power and independence than lesser demon
crisp heath
There are lesser chaos gods I think
storm jungle
Basically imagine the cyberdemon
they're larger and more intelligent
and have actual personalities
etc
barren tapir
There are lesser chaos gods I think
Yes, but it would be more appropriate to call all them warp entities, even the major 4
crisp heath
I wish hashut came In 40k
verbal nest
brings up DOOM
Now you're speaking my language
verbal nest
Wut about stank wamrs
crisp heath
Since he perfect for iron warriors
celest dome
or for the Dark Mechanicus
verbal nest
Are there female ogryns
And how are ogryns even come across
odd sparrow
i mean, yeah presumably
unless ogryns reproduce by mitosis
inb4 they just look exactly the same as male ogryns
crisp heath
Ogryn are just subhumans so it would make sense to have female
celest dome
Abhuman
glad cave
ABhuman is right for Ogryn. rimshot
crisp heath
i'd guess they look like male ogryns, maybe slightly smaller and without facial hair
kindred hound
i have question.is really tau empire accept asylum of humans to work for them (not only military services)
odd sparrow
yea, and they'll even allow them to continue practising their religion so long as it isn't perceived as interfering with the greater good
kindred hound
they can believe in emperor in tau?
odd sparrow
v much not above fucking with the human populations of worlds if they're being dissidents tho. How exactly they go about combating rebellious human populations kinda depends on which author is writing them, can range from mass sterilisation to social engineering
Yeah, the core ideology of the Tau Empire is the greater good. It's like, pseudo religious but it isn't necessarily contradicted by the imperial cult
kindred hound
and is aeldari accept there asylum too
odd sparrow
idk about that, not sure how much has been written about eldar-tau interactions
kindred hound
thanks for your help
wide jewel
Eldar and tau team up sometimes but I'm not sure if any eldar have converted to the greater good
odd sparrow
The tau are always amicable to other races unless they've consistently been aggressive. Like, the tau won't bother sending diplomats/whatever to orks or nids
kindred hound
👍
wide jewel
craftworld and tau get along quite well
kindred hound
is tau have ambassador?
wide jewel
yes, from the water caste
meager sparrow
Whenever the Tau need to participate in a video game, the count goes up by 1
dull flame
Like everything in 40k, factions only get along when it helps them solve a problem. Then they're back to killing eachother.
So far the Imperium has teamed up temporarily with Necrons, Eldar, Tau and Orks to fight Tyranids. And as soon as the bugs were dead they either went back to killing one another or somehow managed to go their seperate ways.
cunning lantern
Haven't heard the necron one
dull flame
The Blood Angels teamed up with the Silent King to try and destroy Hive Fleet Leviathan but they were both planning on betraying the other from the start
wide vessel
if you have have ever seen the blood angel and necron fist bump meme that's a joke to it
the imperium has worked with other factions a majority of the time when it came to chaos, mostly eldar and necrons, tau usually don't know what is going on.
dull flame
Trazyn did try to help Cawl with the pylons on Cadia before Abaddon just threw a blackstone fortress at it. xD
wide vessel
to be fair it was that or the 13th black crusade would have been the last
rotund siren
Is there any way for a genestealer cultist to not get mind-controlled? or to be unmind-controlled?
because I know that, for Tyranids, there's the theory that some death worlds are made by lower nids that were separated from the big momma and became animals
so
just wondering
wide vessel
once part of the hive, always part of the hive
dull flame
Yeah I'm pretty sure if you're born with the genestealer gene in you, you're a part of the cult until you're dead from combat or the buggy gods in the skies come down to munch on you.
wide vessel
they willingly throw themselves into the genepits at the end, or become part of the brudchamber
rotund siren
rough
crisp heath
I think some of the more human GSC resist slightly but by that point its too late
barren tapir
We know that it is the patriarch to be the creator of the brood mind, said that we also know that some GSO had their patriarch killed so i would say it is in the grey area were we haven't enough info on what would happen
crisp heath
I know the GSC will fight against other hives if they are invaded
barren tapir
It seems that some animals on catachan and fenris had a tyr origin, but they have evolved enough to not be part of the hive mind anymore, but the sources for that were old (as far as i know) and not reliable
barren tapir
I know the GSC will fight against other hives if they are invaded
GSO will become part of the hive mind when a hive fleet get closer...
They will try to fight off any other invasion
wide vessel
there was a genestealer cult on terra, that got purged by the custodies
rotund siren
well, good for the custodes
final spruce
You mean the Catachan Devils Blank ?
dull flame
wide vessel
Ogryn are murder children basically
barren tapir
You mean the Catachan Devils Blank ?
Yes, and the kraken on fenris
barren tapir
The same can be said for catachan devils, or the report of a weird alien races fought after the great crusade that acted like a tyranid hive fleet... The theory was that those were tyranid vanguards who then became feral
wide vessel
Well the thing is we don’t know much about other alien races, we see the main group but there are others out there still
Nids are in the last 5/6000 years (maybe slightly more) and stuff like the kraken is as old as russ
barren tapir
You say that like it isn't possible that the two are connected, like some sources suggest
wide vessel
It could be but the lore contradicts constantly
Like how the nids were brought about due to a psyker thing set off by Guilliman
barren tapir
The pharos, and the signal that was launched by its destruction, or overcharge i don't remember... And that doesn't contradict anything else
wide vessel
Hmmm, well there were the bugs from the HH that were locked away onto a planet, some might have escaped
They were very nid
barren tapir
The megarachnids from murder, they were put there from another human independent civ, IIRC they were also later exterminated by the imperium
wide vessel
Yes
barren tapir
Uhm, i was remembering wrong, it seems that horus didn't exterminated them
wide vessel
They did the sound people
All over a knife
That the world barer stole
Granted it was also the first knife to murder someone
cerulean wagon
yes
plush mason
the emperor: ALL RELIGION IS BAD
the imperium: creates a state religion around him as a god
for me the imperial cult is one of the biggist plot holes in the lore
dim loom
the imperium: creates a state religion around him as a god
ohps Lorgar really did get the last lol
why a plothole ?
plush mason
hell it was founded by Lorgar one of the first to fall to chaos
and yet no one questions his words in that damn book
plush mason
i see
dim loom
30k all faith was banned
plush mason
yes
dim loom
but there was an underground cult based on it
plush mason
the world Lorgar ended up on should have been purged like all the others
i mean did Lorgar even need that world?
dim loom
i mean maybe not "need" but the emperor just found one of his toys on that world, dont wanna piss it off and have a world set against you to waste time conquering
plush mason
Lorgar's sons would of had it cleased easy
thats what they did before they found him after all
and another thing
Lorgar was little more than a slave on his world
just like Angron
dim loom
nah
plush mason
and yet Lorgar was treated better than Angron
dim loom
Angron got a shitty deal from the get go with the nails implanted and tossed into fighting pits.
plush mason
and Lorgar was Kor's whipping boy
plush mason
Kor abused the hell outa him
slate grotto
Tbf emperor didn't create that religion, he didn't like it at all, that's WHY Lorgar fell to chaos.
dim loom
like most of the other primarchs he ended up taking over his planet and ruling it before the Emperor showed up to take them on the great crusade field trip
slate grotto
The religion was created by the people, and then encouraged by the people running the imperium after emps got wounded, because it made it easier to control.
plush mason
also i have read some stories that say Lorgar was the first primarch to fall to chaos
cerulean saddle
for me the imperial cult is one of the biggist plot holes in the lore
its hardly a plot hole, its to show the inevitability of religion and superstition
dim loom
also what @cerulean saddle said 😛
plush mason
and others that say Horus fell first then with Erbus's help made Lorgar fall
celest dome
Fuck Erebus
dim loom
poor Emps attempted with the Imperial Truth and all that but after Emps got Ultramarines to blow the shitt outta Monarchia....how ever you spell it, Lorgar and the Wordbearers got all emo and turned to chaos
slate grotto
I mean, going round glowing and showing incredible feats of telekinesis isn't a good way to convince people you aren't a god, but the Emperor didn't create a religion around himself at all, he detested and forbid it.
cerulean saddle
i mean the other part of it is that the emperor doesnt really know what he is doing either
slate grotto
He's just a bit blind
cerulean saddle
he is the man that arguably invented religion, then scrapped it, then became a god
plush mason
@cerulean saddle i always thought they knew in the current setting that Lorgar started it
dim loom
nah
celest dome
Nope not at all
cerulean saddle
no i mean there is an argument that the emperor was jesus
dim loom
maybe the highlords
plush mason
so yeah its not a plothole
cerulean saddle
its confirmed that big E was a lot of catholic saints
trying to lead humanity from the shadows and all of that
plush mason
i have seen that argument
dim loom
chaos marines know and like to make fun of the current day loyalists, but traitors lie all the time such is the way of chaos 😉
cerulean saddle
before eventually going "fuck it, not working, state mandated atheism now" despite still kinda larping as a god, and then being surprised that when he "died" he is worshipped as one
dim loom
If only magnus didnt break the webway
plush mason
tbf humanity at that point had progressed so far that such things as supertiton was a forgoten relic
cerulean saddle
thats the POINT lol
dim loom
I mean there are many worlds each with differing states of tech and progress etc
cerulean saddle
you cant change human behaviour
slate grotto
If only the emperor had put a bit more effort into his sons instead of being all business all the time
cerulean saddle
and instinct
plush mason
@cerulean saddle um evolution would have seen to that
cerulean saddle
bruh
plush mason
ofc i doubt GW got that far into it
cerulean saddle
thousands of years of evolution and humans are still afraid of the dark
same concept
celest dome
He should have left the Primarch project to uncle Malcador
cerulean saddle
you cant remove a whole part of the human psyche
slate grotto
Honestly, one could argue that the religion around the emperor makes more sense than any other. Instead of going on faith alone, you've got a physical being, alive for millenia, doing literal godly acts that people can see.
plush mason
He should have left the Primarch project to uncle Malcador
agreed
slate grotto
Lorgar calls him a god and in response he mentally forces the entire Legion to kneel at his feet? That's going to convince them they're right if anything.
plush mason
big E was a big believer in "do as i say not as i do"
dim loom
but at that time they know librarians are a thing with powerful...godlike powers
plush mason
power=/=divine
celest dome
I'm hoping for his death and eventual ascension to Star Child
dim loom
all the other legions and primarchs knew the Emperor was a super powerful Psyker
slate grotto
I forget which planet it was, but there was one that he conquered in a day, alone. He's pretty godly.
Plus people with lots of faith in him display acts of power too.
slate grotto
He would actually regenerate, but the throne is draining him. He can't leave the throne or terra gets overrun by daemons.
cerulean saddle
low IQ - emperor is god
high IQ - emperor is psyker
genius IQ - emperor is a metaphysical being with power as strong as literal gods of chaos, therefore he IS a god
dim loom
I mean if we are taking it from the view point of ya everyday person/astartes etc etc
the imperial truth worked for the most part at stomping out all faith with science etc
slate grotto
That's how the warp works.
He was 'just' a psyker (the most powerful in the setting), but the power he displayed made people worship him. Being worshipped is reflected in the warp.
Living saints are effectively greater daemons of the Emperor.
plush mason
and yet thanks to the imperial cult and the cult mechanicus humanity will soon be at stone age level tech.....again
dim loom
gullyman is back so thats not gonna happen
plush mason
didnt the high lords and the cult betray him?
dim loom
how ?
they sure as fuck didnt want to let him rule and giveup their power but sucks to be them lol
and the cult mechanicus are freaking out that they dont have to rub oils and light insence to make machines work that gullyman and crawl guy is full of shit lol
slate grotto
Part of why I like 40k is these sort of things, theres a lot of ways to assess it.
slate grotto
Even if I consider the marines and emperor the most dull part of the setting. That just says how much fun the rest is!
plush mason
at one point in 40k's timeline humanity stood on the cusp of godhood
slate grotto
That said... I love the idea of the rift and the setting advancing... But screw primaris, screw Cawl, and screw Rawbutt Grillman.
dim loom
and get lost in endless fucking tabs when ever you go to look up one thing on lexicanum lol
plush mason
yes
dim loom
yeeeeaaaaa, the rift is cool, but primaris ?! really ? this random crawl guy somehow did a better job then the Emperor !?!?!? ok buddy. I dont mind gullyman coming back, a primarch coming back is not too far fetched. And is the only primarch they know is still around
slate grotto
I was hoping when they started moving forwards that losing Cadia and the formation of the great rift might make the attention and power a bit more evenly spread through the galaxy. Instead they went the opposite way and gave the Imperium a power boost.
plush mason
umm the Primaris project was started by the emperor
dim loom
what book did they had this into ?
slate grotto
I'm wondering which random named marine is going to kill the silent King :(
dim loom
im abit behind on my HH
plush mason
with the help of some random scientist that later on learned ho to download his brain into other bodies
dim loom
ooohhhh yea yea
plush mason
the emperor ofc could see the future and saw that when this scientist would force Crawl to download his mind into himself that Crawl would overpower him
so he told this scientist what to do with the project but called him Crawl at the time
dim loom
why did scientist want to agent smith crawl ?
plush mason
iirc to prove it would work
Crawl didnt want to do it
so this dude murdered Crawl's best friend then offered to save him by downloading both into Crawl
dim loom
crawl during his noobie days right ?
plush mason
yeah
slate grotto
So just did some quick reading. A scientist who helped the emperor work on astartes, tried to steal cawls body, but instead cawl absorbed his memories.
plush mason
yup
plush mason
exactly
dim loom
lol
slate grotto
I mean, I still find it a bit dumb even by GW standards. Archmagos, whos been around 10k years working on this massive, game changing project, but has never been mentioned until now.
dim loom
yea really
plush mason
@slate grotto btw was the scientist trying to prove it could work or was he being some emperor palpatine the hole time?
i cant remember
storm jungle
I mean, I still find it a bit dumb even by GW standards. Archmagos, whos been ar...
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
dim loom
wuda been fine if like maybe they find some super sexy stc and are able to make better tech again and bring back gullyman
cut out the primaris
plush mason
so it seems like Magnus is going to raze Fenrius....
if that doesnt draw Leman back idk what will
slate grotto
I really, really wanted the 42nd millennium to be more balanced, ghazgkhull stepping up in power, silent King returns, bigger hive fleets, Eldar regaining sone power, chaos has gained ground... Everyone's on the board!! and instead we got super marines.
dim loom
Arkham Land comes back sup bitches found this stc thunk enjoy
plush mason
well the primarius has let my space wolves have sucsessor chapters so im not to upset
slate grotto
Behold my secret 11k year project, the... Primaris Hover Titan!!
plush mason
no
dim loom
yea i wuda thought russ would be back with magnus kicking up shit on fenris but....dont think he is coming
plush mason
not more titans
plush mason
@dim loom there is only one reason he would not come back and that would be he is dead.....
slate grotto
Guilliman was the least inspired choice for returning Primarch, but also the inevitable one, because Ultramarines.
plush mason
im not ready to give up on my primarch yet :c
storm jungle
Guilliman was the least inspired choice for returning Primarch, but also the ine...
It never ends.
plush mason
ultrasmurfs
dim loom
I mean to be fair he was the only one known to still be "alive" and his location known. And the Ultramarines while being bland power boys recent lore has made them cool
or not as bland anywayz
storm jungle
The Lion is right there lol
plush mason
is cato dead?
storm jungle
he has his own sleeping beauty glass-case and everything
dim loom
no one knows about the lion thou
celest dome
No
dim loom
cept the watchers in the dark
celest dome
Cato still ali e
storm jungle
"ITUNUUUU!"
plush mason
i mean
storm jungle
jokes aside Lion is the next primarch on the roster, calling it
plush mason
they are green robed jawas
dim loom
lol shit now thats all ima be thinking about when they come up
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plush mason
they are forest jawas
dim loom
oh yea for sure. First Legion Best Legion
celest dome
Dorn is the best to come back [against Perty]
slate grotto
Corvus is around with new warp powers, Leman is in the eye somewhere, Lion is asleep in the rock, Khan is in the webway playing Mario kart, Ferrus is dead, Sanguinius is dead, Dorn...? I don't know actually, Vulcan is er...reassembling somewhere?
plush mason
oh yea for sure. First Legion Best Legion
brave thing to say in the pressence of a space wolf
dim loom
dorn has one hand and is prob in some pillow fort hiding from Perturabo having night terrors about the Iron Cage
celest dome
Dorn's skeleton has been replaced with only a skeletal fist
plush mason
so you are clearly not of the first legion cuz you actualy have a spine
storm jungle
I still like how Text-to-Speech handled it, Dorn was just there lol
totally seems like something he'd do
celest dome
MAGIC PAIN GLOVE
plush mason
and pertiabo digs holes
slate grotto
I get why people find them both dull or annoying, but Angron and Peter Turbo are my two favourite primarchs overall, although Angron got kinda dull after becoming a daemon.
It's rare I want retcons, but I hope when they finish the HH series they retcon Pert being a daemon.
celest dome
Pert is a demon ? Since when ?
plush mason
wtf is he doing rn anyway?
storm jungle
Every traitor primarch is a demon prince
celest dome
Moping in his corner as always
storm jungle
because they get a free pass from the gods apparently
slate grotto
Iron warriors are legitimately the most stable and coherent of the traitor legions, and still doing shit.
storm jungle
And maybe the Thousand Sons
meanwhile jesus christ the other traitor legions
literal trash
plush mason
wtf is the iron warriors deamon world's name?
slate grotto
But it doesn't fit Perts character to be made a daemon Prince at all, they are anti imperium, not pro-chaos.
dim loom
so you are clearly not of the first legion cuz you actualy have a spine
ho hoo hoo calm down little space woof. Wanna duel me as is tradition when our legions cross paths 😉 got Eternal Crusade installed ?! Lets go bra ?!
slate grotto
Medengrad? Something like that
plush mason
i quit that game after the devs abbandoned it :c
slate grotto
Eternal Crusade was sadly awful :(
dim loom
yeeeaaaaa 😦
plush mason
yeah
celest dome
So it shall be a duel to the death
IRL
slate grotto
I had such high hopes when they first announced it
dim loom
sphees mareen 1.5ish alpha edition
plush mason
I had such high hopes when they first announced it
same
dim loom
1021 hours in that dam game
plush mason
when they added the space wolves my heart stopped beating for a bit lol
dim loom
still no attack bikes, terminators, and all the other crap that promised "soon" tm tm tm
plush mason
it was sad
dim loom
So it shall be a duel to the death
IRL
unless he has dow1 or 2 😉 we dont talk about 3
slate grotto
I've not got that far into the books yet, but it makes me so happy to hear about Pert during the siege of Terra. If they had even one more competent primarch they'd probably have won. He was actually happy, for like the first time since he joined the Imperium, because he got to do something he actually wanted and enjoyed.
slate grotto
unless he has dow1 or 2 😉 we dont talk about 3
There was no 3, they never made it, dunno what you're talking about.
plush mason
@dim loom i own all but that crused title of a game
dim loom
I've not got that far into the books yet, but it makes me so happy to hear about...
recently finished Solar War and fuck yea dude Pert is great.
plush mason
and tbh
dim loom
god emperor speaking of a trash game. dow3 wow
plush mason
i hate the blood ravens....
slate grotto
Imagine how much could've been avoided if the Emperor had rescued Angrons friends, and given Pert a decent assignment or pat on the back once in a while.
dim loom
<@!192012596411367424> i own all but that crused title of a game
then little space woof wud ya gonna do BROTHER ?! WHEN THE FIRST LEGION RUNS WIIIIILLLD ON YYYOOOOUUU OH YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAA
plush mason
lol
slate grotto
Iirc there's a world some other legions failed to take, then he came and cracked it, and in imperial records he was credited as "unnamed assistant".
dim loom
Imagine how much could've been avoided if the Emperor had rescued Angrons friend...
true but primarchs to him were tools
plush mason
if needs be ill jyst tell them there is a fallen angel 3 worlds over
they will drop everything
and rush over
dim loom
lol wtf unnamed assistant
slate grotto
I'll see if I can find it.
dim loom
if needs be ill jyst tell them there is a fallen angel 3 worlds over
sorry whats that mutant ?
hows the Wufen going
wide jewel
Did somebody say fallen? WHERE
plush mason
its really funny to me that all the alpha legion has to do to get the dark angels off their backs is tell them where a fallen one might be
storm jungle
dim loom
Did somebody say fallen? WHERE
no fallen here, what even is a fallen. shhhhhhh
plush mason
ofc they would still put a bolter round thru my skull for saying that
dim loom
its really funny to me that all the alpha legion has to do to get the dark angel...
lol yea yea funny guy.....so you said something about fallen ?
plush mason
its just so funy to me
they are so afraid that they think the fallen could lead to the whole legion being named traiots when 10s of 1000s of traitor legion marines stayed loyal and where forgiven for thier brothers sins.....
plush mason
they are so lost in it that they have nearly been named traitors for it
as much as i may shittalk them they are still my cousins
should De'lion come back i hope the first thing he does is slap Beliel
also i have little doubt Cypher will play a part in De'lion's return
dim loom
Delion ?
am i about to get lost in lexi tabs....
and oh yeeeaaa almost forgot about Cypher and fallen saving gullyman
and Luther is now outta jail and gathering up a legion of fallen
plush mason
lion El'jonson.....
slate grotto
lol wtf unnamed assistant
Not sure what book its in as a lot of the wikis don't cite sources on individual parts, but it seems to be mentioned on multiple and I've seen it said a lot.
Overdog Mashogg's vast orbital fortifications had previously repulsed attack after attack from both the Space Wolves and the White Scars Legions. Perturabo, whose plan succeeded at last in breaking the line and allowing for the Orks slaughter is recorded in the contemporary chronicles of his brother-Legions only as a nameless "comrade-in-arms."
dim loom
OOOHHHH sorry brain fart moment
slate grotto
Sorry for double, phones being useless.
dim loom
np
i mean every legion had a role right
shit needed to get done
thou maybe Emps coulda spread it out between the FIsts and the Iron warriors
plush mason
i though his name was De'lion El'jonson
slate grotto
Lion'o and the Thundercat Legion.
plush mason
A Lion and a Wolf
Primarch Lion El'Johnson's elite bodyguard, the Lion Guard
At some point during the Great Crusade, the Dark Angels and the Space Wolves Legions were assaulting the planet Dulan that had not given in to the Imperium's demands to become a compliant world. The leader of the rebels had insulted Leman Russ by naming him "The Emperor's Lapdog." Russ and his Space Wolves planned to assault rebel leader's stronghold for this blemish on their honor. While they were busy planning, the Dark Angels took the initiative and brought the fight to the capital instead and the Lion himself killed their leader. Russ found the Lion with the dead leader at his feet and immediately attacked his brother Primarch. They fought for a full day and a night, the combat ending only when the Lion threw Russ through a table. When Russ got up he started laughing at the foolishness of their quarrel. The Lion, incensed that his brother appeared to be mocking him, hit him square in the jaw, knocking Russ out cold. Russ awakened many hours later to find that Lion El'Jonson and his Dark Angels had already left the planet. Honour Duels are still fought between members of the Space Wolves and the Dark Angels to this day over this incident, which sometimes results in fatalities
dim loom
😉
slate grotto
I like the Space wolves, for the viking aspects, not the over-focused wolf aspects. Theres a line in one of the books when one says "you hit like you're from mcragge". Insulting the Ultras is a way to my heart.
plush mason
so you know why the main battle tank of the imperial guard is called the leman russ?
dim loom
yup
plush mason
he found the SCT that showed how to make it
dim loom
also lol "you hit like you're from mcragge"
plush mason
and it was named in his honor
well i mean the only reason they dont say "you hit like your from caliban" is cuz they have never been hit by someone from there 😛
slate grotto
See that utterly baffles me. The 41st millenium, galaxy spanning empire, but they can't make a relatively simple (even by modern standards) tank without someone finding the equivalent of an ancient digital scrolls.
Or is it less that they can't, and more that the Mechanicum determine it heresy to create something "new".
crisp heath
idk man maybe a promethium combustion engine is more complicated
cerulean wagon
They could invent stuff, but allowing invention is literaly against their religion, and they keep a tight clutch on all technology because its the only thing keeping their power in the imperium
dim loom
and yea prob abit heresy to make something new
plush mason
@dim loom you ever play deathwatch?
dim loom
yup
plush mason
the bantter in it was so much fun
i had 3 ultramarines a sanquine priest and a space wolf lone wolf in my squad
the lone wolf started by saying "thank the emperor. no dark angels sully this squad."
dim loom
ohhh sorry thought you were talking about deathwing
crisp heath
deathwatch is a rpg lol
plush mason
the sanquine priest answered "i have heared of the rivalry between the sons of the lion and the sons of the wolf"
plush mason
yeah
dim loom
all this trash talk bro 😉 what ya gonna do about it all or continue to bark. Same name of steam bra lets go bra
plush mason
im just recounted this convo they had
plush mason
lol
crisp heath
friend group is respectively BT - DA - BA/Deathwatch and one damned heretic that refuses to read up on wh40k
dim loom
thats some heresy
plush mason
this fucking smurf just slayed the hell outa my wolfbrother lol
plush mason
i think i need ot restart discord
rotund siren
I think the slowness is just Discord, actually
crisp heath
she violently refuses to accept the word of the emperor
she has really short hair so i told her we'll dress her up as a psyker and take her to a con anyway
rotund siren
HERESY! SHE SHALL BE TURNED INTO A SERVITOR!!!
dim loom
then what you do is report her to the Inquisition for having cooties and you are good. Dont need that kinda negativity if ya life lol
crisp heath
i am the inquisition, the fact she's been resisting arrest for this long hints on the fact that she must be a psyker
plush mason
omg
dim loom
hhhmmm do you know any nulls ?
plush mason
my team is still here
crisp heath
funny thing is she loves dune. but nooo, no wh40k.
rotund siren
WHAT?
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huh
has your friend provided a reason behind her desire not to learn?
dim loom
has your friend provided a reason behind her desire not to learn?
yes do tell
crisp heath
no
she just says she doesn't like it and that she refuses to know anything about wh40k lol
rotund siren
huh
rotund siren
this is true
plucky moth
rotund siren
I survive 40k lore by thinking "wow, how neat but also super bad"
crisp heath
i thrive on super bad
rotund siren
because otherwise I'd either hate it for being real awful, or become a nutter for thinking it's all good
dim loom
for sure, its an amazing universe but youd never wanna be there
crisp heath
juicy, juicy drama
dim loom
well it would be cool buuuuuut maybe not really
crisp heath
i'd never want to be there. the only option i'd be okay with would be to have a cushy job on a paradise world
crisp heath
drawing like, imperial propaganda posters
crisp heath
i mean, you can get killed by a crackhead or a drunk driver irl too
rotund siren
true.
crisp heath
all i'm saying is, living in europe in the real world > living in 40k almost anywhere
crisp heath
especially being of any importance in 40k
dim loom
but you could also be on a random world where nothing happens, some medievil world with like one massive shrine is devoted the the god of the world(the emperor) with the ruler of that world making sure tithe is done (planetary governor) not knowing anything else
rotund siren
yeah
or you could be a worker on a Forge World who doesn't fulfill your quota, so you get turned into a servitor
there's a lot that could happen
dim loom
think there was a short story set during the great crusade where they come across a world very much like our own.
rotund siren
since there are trillions upon quadrillions of people, on billions upon billions of worlds
huh
wild
crisp heath
but any and all of our beloved protagonists face horrors that modern world warzones don't even begin to measure up to
crisp heath
yeah