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Some fucked up combo of Necron Tech and DAoT era human tech
I plan to have it as a "happy" ending for characters
The only happy ending you could possibly get in 40k
Escaping the Galaxy itself.
...and hoping you don't get eaten by nids lma
Even then it's mostly ambiguous in fate
the silent king allegedly tried that
Just at least has a chance for any type of hope vs none
I mean, technically yes you can. Just not via warp travel
a recent necron codex describes him waging war in other galaxies during his exile
Imagine trying to live peacefully only for a robo skeleton appearing to start fucking up your planet
💀
from ANOTHER GALAXY
I forgot exactly why warp travel isn't possible?
It's due to being too far from the astronomicon
and therefore equivalent to sailing blindly in a turbulent ocean
At least that's what I remember
At the time she was dating a wealthy failson whose first job was a nepobaby hire at the age of 26. He also had a poster of Mussolini in his closet and took her to fascist meetings as early dates. This may reflect poorly on my mother, but he wasnt an Italian fascist. He was just a fascist for the city of Florence and nowhere else. He wanted the city walled off and only "Pure Italians" could come in. He did give her the "You could come" pass, so she never took his political opinions seriously enough to be bothered by it
the immaterium is also literally the afterlife. It is the realm of souls, of thoughts and of emotions. you don't have much of that in the void between galaxies, I would presume
you have to enter the warpussy in a more difficult position when far from terra
but experienced penetrators can navigate the folds easily
Tbf he was fighting Nids
makes you wonder how tf people went through the galaxy during the great crusades before the astronomicon
this, like many things, is never explained
@heady rivet im starting a stellaris match with overtuned origin. which traits should my species have
Another "Jay just says shit" moment because they literally had that during the Great Crusade
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Well whats the Empire

there was warp travel pre astronomicon and there is warp travel in the part of the galaxy cut of from the astronomicon. It is just harder, presumably
He acted as a GPS for the entire Imperium during the Great Crusade.
suck dick
If I remember correctly
fanatic spiritualist going for becoming the crisis
Which is also funny to imagine the Emperor's voice echoing in every navigator's mind during the GC
"TURN LEFT AT THE HELL SPIRE."

the only homophobia i express is my self hatred
You miss it and just hear "Rerouting...rerouting...turn right at the-rerouting..." meanwhile the screams from the deck below get louder
Its always right at the best part in the astropathic chorus too
Looking at it that might've been fanon, I think the Spirit of Eternity said it was just gonna leave the galaxy
Juiced Power and Fleeting Excellence
Stellaris sounds cool
Navigators and warp drives predate the Great Crusade, Emps just made it easier as a fixed navigation point when it had become harder to go gallivanting around ☝️ 🤓
but it also sounds like a game that will consume my ability to play any other game
imma post this screenshot I just took, for no reason
One does not play stellaris for a short time
Its so good. And a ton of DLC is being folded into base game at no extra cost
you can just buy the subscription and have a solid month of playability before getting bored
i do that with hoi4
since i never play more than a week
I am so hype for Nomads
I just ahoy the DLC, Paradox can suck it
I have faith
It sounds good in theory and it sounds like they took a page from Endless Space with the wayline system
So just buy the base game for 10$?
i have endless space 2 but never played it
i shit you not i bought stellaris thinking it was endless space 2 after sseth made a video about it
best mistake i ever made
Absolutely. Then subscribe for a month and try all the DLC out for size
Or play a mutiplayer game
Hosted by someone with a ton of DLC
But I think that still blocks some Empire creation stuff
the game is also playable without dlc tbh
my first game was without dlc and it was great
Stellaris is the only game I know of that went back and patched more content into DLCs YEARS later
but that was many years ago
How does multiplayer work, isnt stellaris a game that plays across a very long period of time?
back when the game ran better
trying to find friends who play for more than one session is the issue
\Yeah grand strategy game multiplayers are marathon sessions
Like I see 15 people "8 hours on a Saturday" games
the most common thing ive seen in stellaris multiplayer is significantly reducing the match times
because nobody in my friend circle wants to do week long sessions
i wish i had friends who understood that it's supposed to be an RP game
min maxing stellaris is so lame
anyways time to become the galactic emperor and create a class 30 singularity
I earned the Galactic Emperor achievement on my birthday 
My dad was a big fan of his in high school, and he introduced me to his music a couple years ago. His song Rebel Yell was what inspired me to come up with the homebrew too
Great song
galactic emperor is one of the coolest niche mechanics
i wish it had more depth but still it's so fun to game the galactic senate
the billy idol song?
Ye
the straightest twink
My dad wanted to bleach his hair like him lmao
80's was so fucking gay
rockstar stage names/real names are good inspiration for warhammer names considering warhammer used to be very heavy metal
Fr lol, its great
my black legion terminator lord/abaddon proxy is named after the Deep Purple guitarist who coincidentally used to be nicknamed the man in black
whose last name is blackmore 💀
now I kinda wanna get a noise marine squad, paint them as black legion and give the officer an inquisitor hat
to 0-3-5 space marines to death
but im already throwing my scarce money away for my all-vehicle chaos legion 😔
please for the love of god just get a cheap 3d printer
vehicles are the easiest things to print with filament
3D Printer enthusiasts will be like "Yeah if you spend 800 dollars on a good printer and filament you wont waste 100 bucks buying something from GW" like everyone in the world is playing Apocalypse rules and constantly needs new minis coming in daily
Like most people that would get a 3D printer would let that thing sit for a LONG while and most likely would never make it "worth" it. Its why 3D Printer owners are always "Hey need anything printed?" because they need to justify owning it to themselves
apocalypse is fun
but printing only works for decors and large vehicles
imperial brick tanks
lord forbid somebody tries to help others save money
also you can get a used filament printer for around 50 bucks
be informed
its almost time for the yearly darktide and helldiver fans to collectively freak the fuck out over swedish summer vacation
The nefarious Swede, they start wars, they fuel wars
A Russian - 1710
1000 years of war with the Danes and then they claim to be peaceful
Something that's hard to get a solid answer for, did primaris reinforcements fix all of the missing organs for the Imp Fists or hwat
swedes do deserve to be invaded a bit
Return rightful Danish and Norwegian territories
Sweden has really good workers rights so they have summer breaks
and winter ones
from June to August
so we'll get one big update I presume before that
and it WILL be buggy and we'll have to deal with that for a couple months
how dare they have worker rights
if i played darktide or helldivers 2 i'd be so mad
i'll go complain on twitter about the west having fallen again
To be fair, us Canadians have it pretty good.
not from my experience
Oh, you are not in the east...
unless you compare to the US
it's the closest one I think we should
also makes us superior once again even if by a lil
comparing to the US is like the US comparing itself to third world countries
you can always find a much shittier country
glorious
At least for me, when I used to work as machinist and then construction, it was pretty good in term of service and salary.
I know QC and I think Manitoba has good workers rights but I can't speak on like
the atlantics
or ontario but those people are weird
Like, even above European standard.
i just go to the US these days to get cheap alcohol
or to visit my traitorous american sister
wanted to visit some friends but still too paranoid of the burgercore searching my phone just because they felt like it
hasnt happened to me so far
i dont have face ID though on purpose
it's password only
my phone is old enough to not have that lol
make sure to not have the fingerprint thing either
and shut down your phone before getting to the checkpoint
I hear that some of them take that as resisting the authority.
but chances are they wont search you unless your name is muhammad
Fs is a Swedish company?
Though, 2nd experience, take it as a grain of salt.
I'll probably be fine since I would be going to Washington state which is more chill than the rest of the nation
that or anywhere in the PNW
if the border guy wants to see my thousands of dick pics then he can do it as much as he wants
Vermont is pretty chill.
should annex vermont and buffalo
also jesus what did they do to fox
graphics in 2013 looking ass
borders are federal
which is also why you cant bring weed across any border
because it's still illegal federally
yeah but the people living and working there would be chiller since im not fucking driving that distance
the airport people
oh airport
yeah thats different
it's much chiller
since you already pass through security
my parents got me nexus when i was a kid and it's great
skip all the lines
Hey does any other codex have a soup army detachment in the codex besides gsc?
DG/WE/Tsons/EC with Daemons of their same god because GW made them specific detaches for some reason
Bonus detaches for: Knights, Chaos Knights, Nids
The nid one was a gsc one
No nids got one the other end
It’s under “gsc”
They got their own final day?
I literally seperated them because of that
oh lol
@storm jungle idk if you've seen this but you're welcome
I saw this today on reddit

Can a guardsmen get in trouble for showing his superior that something in his corpse starch is moving
depends on the regiment and the superior
visual novels are hell of a drug god damn
after playing every danganropa game back to back its like
" i miss 40 hour logn visual noves."
Generally no, because it is not supposed to. If the rations go bad, then there are bigger issues, which most reasonable officers, even by 40K standard, would have a look at.
probably not, Cadian officers are pretty strict when need be but they are reasonable
no
Corpse starch has been flanderized for decades
Pretty sure we know that majority of a guard ration is not that at all
Yeah biscuits and gruel for in the field rations
And probably better stuff while on ship
The only people who really eat corpse starch are usually in hives
yeah coz its grim and dark and sick sounding
ergo flanderisation
like exterminatus
just yesterday someone asked why the imperium doesnt exterminatus all sept worlds and the eye of terror
Also one of the few shows of care the imperium gives is in the gruel
It's so shit that they say don't fucking eat this if you don't have to
Catachan refuses to issue you it to their troopers
Because of how they operate plus how shit it is
WHY DON'T THEY EXTERMINATUS THE CHAOS GODS???
Most exterminatus options in 40K are kind of slow compared to most other sci-fi settings.
People hear too much of the over the top shit that they don't know how awful most of the imperium tech is.
Even star wars star destroyers can turn a planet into a dead world faster than most exterminatus methods.
Cuz the imperium doesn’t have to destroy whole planets all that much
Usually…i think
it's cool when it happens
god i love danny devito
isn't one of them just mass sternilization
Hence the "options" and "methods". Most of them don't involve planet destruction. Making a planet inhabitable is an option for exterminatus.
Very much
depends on the method
one is literally just cracking open a planet
which is pretty quick
I can’t wait for Dead as Disco to come to console
It looks so good
And the music is so fucking amazing
lol
Yeah and for almost all you need naval supremacy
‘And the eye of terror’
Not really sure a cyclonic torpedo would have much of an effect on an Eldritch rent from reality into a conceptual realm of emotions
The guy reckoned they could blow it up
So uh
We told him that’s not how the warp works and it was mind blowing apparently
there's a mechanicus novella where they find a bomb that explodes the warp
and gets rid of it
it was something like the empyrean bomb
but turns out the bomb actually just displaces the warp
wait lemme finish
Okok
so they use the bomb on an infested mechanicum world
that's been ruined by the warp
the bomb works as intended, the world is returned to realspace and all demonic activity on it is destroyed
So basically: they take the warp, and push it somewhere else?
however, the STC didn't tell the mechanicus guys that the bomb would put all that warp shit where the bomb was created, which was the forge world they came from
so they came back all triumphant only to find their home reduced to a warp tear in reality
yeah
but this is archeotech bullshit
only found in one book
i think the most surprising part of that novella is that a traitor gets all the chaos purged from his body by being pushed against the bomb
Amazing
Basically void tech bomb
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His brother Count Dookie would disagree (not a real character)
Because apparently it’s harder to deflect shots coming at you
inb4 katana light saber
You need to practice harder and train harder to do that with curved sabres
arent those the black lightsaber things
idk they come from the animated show so im ignorant
Yeah from like some edgy ass Mandalorian Jedi
My entire understanding of star wars is from seeing others talk about it and see random shit about it
not one movie
but
I played lego star wars saga
Wanted an edgy ass lightsaber
He has a better name
Darth Tyranus
sith really love their darths
Darth is a title smh
why is joel edgerton in everything these days
Imagine Szeras, but actually cared about creating life
i didnt even know he played obi wan
he is the leader of the CIS after all
Best Obi wan outside of Ewan McGregor is James Arnold Taylor
why isnt ewan playing him
Dooku 🏳️⚧️ 🤝
It’s one thing to be an actor and another to be a voice actor
wait isnt ewan from the prequels?
JAT voiced Obi Wan in the games and Clone Wars show
He’s in the show “Obi Wan”
god damn it i didnt even notice it was AI
Smh
anyways he's a good actor
Oh Ewan plays Obi Wan in episode 1 too
don't know why he's showing up everywhere tho
He looks so different between the 1st and 2nd I got confused
thats what im saying
i barely recognized him
10 gazillion more prequel slop shows
most fumbled franchise on the planet for real for real
Yeah we warhammer fans wouldnt know
Damn
ye

I'll always ping u 
starts off good with the original trilogy and then 90% of shit after that has shit acting or just makes no sense
10 quadrillion jangling keys “hurrr do you guys remember this we do!!!!!” nostalgia bait shows coming soon

For all his faults Ferrus Manus does not beat his children into boxes and decimate them
Nor did he send Santar or DuCaine to die in suicide missions, or exile them for speaking out of turn
I hate both legions but I hate IW significantly more
At least the Iron Hands’ Deep Operation Tactics actually work better than “Corpse Grinding”
The Death Guard are a better endurance legion than the Iron Hands, they made the flesh strong
The Iron Warriors can go die after the throw the last corpses to be ground
Anyways, I’d read Guymer’s IH novels and the Ferrus Primarch book, they give a better perspective on the IH
I said I like the Iron Warriors, not that I like Perturabo.
Also Iron Cage.
Current era Perturabo is also good, because he had character development.
I mean he’s still full of hate
And bitterness
As per reign of iron
He just likes Honsou since Honsou thinks differently and gets shit done, he was still going to kill Honsou in warbreed if he lost the last game
P: I am building a trap
D: That is a trap, all of you will charge it
Actually now that I think about it
For his petulant manchildery he has a Killer intellect
I maybe like Perturabo even
Because he’s a shithead
You know what
Literally me
🤝 
Lore question
Is there anything on the presence of warrior lodges in loyalist legions besides the WS and RG
In 40k or HH ?
HH
Idt there have been many lodge like institutions in chapters though so if those exist I’m still interested to hear about it
You can make a lodge-like organisation for homebrew because conceptually it is a good idea, the problem was the concept was poisoned by the WB for 30k.
also really good question because uh
Seems like the topic itself was barely established for the loyalist legions lol, convenient
Annoying lol
Even if the loyalist primarchs prob wouldn’t have approved the generally establish themselves
iirc in one of the early books said something about which legions had them and why some didn't but I can't recall what it was
I’ve tried to do “gangs” for the NL lol
I think it was outright banned in some
It was yes
ie the RG situation

yeah the entire region Lodges exist is to speedrun traitor legions to fall faster so no surprise loyalists barely had em as they are just one-dimensional good guys
To be fair the WB were sabotaging pre existing ones so I kinda don’t like how the authors flanderised them into evil cult meeting when really it was like a literal social club lol (Targhost, Tarik and even Mortarion already explain why they could just exist)
Although yeah the social clubs became dens of SoH and Horus sympathisers but still for WS and RG
Anyone got any ideas for a Space Marine chapter mutation? I wanna make one, 21st founding.
Common sense
Yeah as i said the idea of Lodges is a very good one, you can literally put out or discuss any grievances without a matter of rank
the problem is its like therapy
aka people dont like being told the truth
lmfao
Crab arms
Yeah I guess I’m kinda sadge that they didn’t do anything with it, but ngl it’s Warhammer so that was kinda inevitable
Also goons like Varren and Garro going “hurr durr we spess mehreen should just be loyal no need talk about it”
Lmao exactly, worst part is thats prob the most realistic part of that entire thing.
Im literally dealing with an exact issue like this at work rn because a manager told a chef that they didnt cook something right in the rudest way imaginable, the chef talked him back and now it turned into an entire gossip column lmao
People literally can never almost just clear up issues or talk face to face and always gotta make an molehill
Exactly, the SoH made a good case for it that it’s helpful where the men and the ranks can actually resolve their issues instead of “Grulgor hates Garro lol” infinite gossip column
I get why it could be a little questionable in a military context of strict organisation but tbh the lodges already had a lot of officers in charge so like what’s the problem atp
tbf, space marines are also recruited and first send onto the field as literal teenagers, so, we also gotta factor childhood trauma into this
Even Loken was warming up to it
Yeah tho it fits with Astartes because they are literally monks
tbh childhood trauma has nothing to do with it
we have US militarymen rn that are as childish in high ranking positions
people will always be upset over something petty no matter what, even when you arent an asshole type of person
Horus Heresy era Perturabo reminds me of Bad Cop from the Lego movie.
tbh he basically is
Ye true
Yeah.
Yeah
the lodges were a way for them to socialise among themselves, but it also accelerated the development of space marine superiority ideologies. Plus, anyone who has ever been involved in organising self help groups knows that you gotta have some way to keep things from spiralling into a hellpit of negativity
sure, but it influences how they handle that confrontation and the extremity of the outcomes
Tbh the Astartes supremacism was getting prevalent even without that and some of them (Tarik, Aximand) did serve as “checks” on the lodges iirc
The SoH were already discontent with the bureaucratic reform they were just able to talk about it
Some sensible chads like Macer Varren banned them for their companies, but it's a woefully underrepresented thing in loyalist legions
Wait
Varren is a Weater no?
But yeah I’d like more in loyalist legions smh
Varren and Garro banned them in their legions
Corax sent all the members to die at Gate 42
Loken iirc banned them but before the Karkasy incident Tarik warmed him up to them and made him a member
Then Tarik quit lol
In 20 years we should have a total rewrite of the HH that fixes everything I don't like about it
I agree with this statement
The Horus Heresy should also be cut down to the following
(it will be all written only by Nick Kyme)
At least it would be consistent
Horus Heresy will be abolished and replaced with a WHF series titled The Boris Bereavement
Horus Rising
False Gods
Galaxy in Flames
Flight of the Eisenstein
Fulgrim
Scars
Path of Heaven
The First Heretic
Know No Fear
Betrayer
Vengeful Spirit
Unremembered Empire
Ruinstorm
Slaves to Darkness
Praetorian of Dorn
Master of Mankind
All other novels should be decanonised
-ly boring
same thing
Kislev crime series
I would commit great atrocities for a whf crime series
Add TEATD and double its length
GW be like
Make peak subseries with Horror/Crime
Leave them un-attended for years
peak doesn't sell 😔
Fine but every siege of Terra book except Warhawk is replaced by black book 10 Terra
We should gather a bunch of people and do a march on Nottingham
I would show Tom Kirby just how badly you can kill a company
I would mandate a minimum of 1 warhammer crime 1 warhammer horror from each writer every year
Gone and never forgotten, we’ll never get such peak rulebooks again
it really says a lot how the moment he died FW basically crashed lol
now all the modern HH rulebook lore is just... mid
He helped with all of the FFG TTRPGs and they cooked so hard it's unbelievable
Imperial Armour
some of the editing and rules consistency aside
Hey WarCom can we get anything interesting today?
just pages from the black books
Boke
For RG smh
Mank
this man's works are still being talked about 15 years later yea
It’s cool tho so it’s chill
Vraks and Badab are tour de forces of 40k writing
meanwhile all other warzones GW writes pages of lore for are barely mentioned ever lmao
The sensible design 'tism scratching at the back of my brain will never like it but I also think it's cool so it's w/e
Basically my mind on grav bikes
I'm pretty sure Alan Bligh came up with the Tyrant Star thingy didn't he
It's cool to see the ideas live on in the crpgs at least
Ye I think it was him ye
You forgot the nth return to armageddon
And even after cadia blew up, the cadian gate is still a battleground
yeah an entire warzone codex made to setup Yarrick summoning space marines to armageddon
😭
Cadian Gate being a battleground at least works coz there are still loyalist worlds holding on around those parts
Outnumbered IH and Ghuld have already beat IW to a draw there
Trying to think a way to say something in here that won't get me reported again, shits hard
Slander Dark Angels
I can't slander them that well since im adding those cunts to my warband's lesser culture
Slander Alpha Legion
Everyone hates Alpha Legion
Sorry Akurra and Occam and Kassar
That is true
I thought of adding AL on my warbands culture due to their massive scale deployment aside from the confusion tactics and use of mass deployment n shit but i dont wanna add too much
My warband has killed many AL
ATP they’ve taken a lot of randos into the ranks but no AL somehow lol
Might make mine have killed a lot of other chapters and legions, but probably a more dominant rivalry with the BA, DA and the UM
fight the poster boys 🥀
BA because they got a lot of stolen gene-seed during the Siege and because a notorious member of the warband had ties with a high ranking BA which created a chapter solely to fighting the warband and keep them at bay (or at least try)
DA because a lot of the fallen has joined them
UM cause of numbers and massive scale operations
UM are hard to fight because they have massive plot armor
Thats true
Thats why most of my warbands failures have been against the UM + the sheer quantity of them
my cult/warband nearly eradicated a whole chapter
it's near extinct now

they are not trying to stop the cult until they get reinforcement
Oh mine has also brought some chapters to near extinction and has even killed off maybe 2 or 3 of them
Problem is with the UM theres a lot more cohesion between other military forces and chapters
well technically mine has 2 chapters on its counter
one of them was supposed to defend the forgeworld against heretics and xenos
but their numbers disappeared progressively over time and the remaining brothers were captured and forced to work in the soulforges, exposing themselves to dark forces
I'm a bit unsure of how many to add to my warbands kill count, i think 2-3 might be enough
Despite them being a legion-proxy size and being around ever since the HH
Thinking that adding more will make it excessive
well yeah chapters aren't exactly easy to kill either
they are still very disciplined advanced military forces contrary to most chaos warbands
Yeah thats what I mean
Mine has killed one chapter, stole their gene seed, UM (Ashen Consuls)
Typic
9th Cohort actually has a pseudo rivalry with another homebrew WS Successor, the Night Stormers
I PASSED ALLNMY CLASSESASS
Idk why but is Om Nom actually considering the 2nd one
To me it's more like confusion
Since like
Om Nom probably doesn't know what a porn is

To me it looks like he’s weighing the options
I wish I knew the numbers of cohorts/chapters/battalions like that to bolster the writing of my warband like that
But keeping shit vague has also helped a lot so it might be better to just not go into heavy details
I’ll be real besides the UM (ofc it’s them), IH and partially DG and Ksons idt any other legion went into their further structure/organisation
So we have to live in vagueness
im pretty sure every single Black Book has explored every legion
Not a literal sheet but they outright basically spell out the ranks iirc
Do Nlords even have chapters??
Ranks is no problemo
Dude my jobs system is still down since yesterday
Whole day of doing nothing at work
Until we get to the funny stuff
Are all consuls of equal rank?
Why is the centurion title changing every Tuesday
all Legions do, they just have edgy names
Is a Force Commander (Beloth) outranking or downranking or equal rank to Lord Commander? (Shang)
I figured they are the “Cohorts” occasionally mentioned
There is some info about organization as far as I am aware but I mean shit like
"Oh yeah the 965th battalion which consisted of the X chapter. This was the home of the 9182737squad which was-" you know what I mean?
But if you read the novels and the later black books you’d have no idea
Because they never used it
They did follow the Principia Belicosa a little they just changed the name of shit to make it edgier
I assume WB and UM follow the same organisation
They did
But like we rarely hear about anything Nlord beyond the company level
Unlike WB or UM
Anyways thankfully Lorgar and Guilliman are both fucking accountants
So here
I feel like this is more of a writers choice to not explore it rather than them lacking it
This is from Tempest I think
Curse you ADB
Yeah
You did it for Word Bearers
I mean aren't they basically a bunch of criminals turned into super torturers
Seems kinda rowdy to horde into groups
Yeah, but there are nobles and tacticians among them too
They should have Cohorts led by Regents
But it’s never explored
Each of the Kyroptera is also a Praetor
But at the same time there are praetors outside the Kyroptera
Cause if World Eaters have details beyond the company level
Then the NLords should also have that
Like Lord Commander Shang and Praetor Nakrid Thole
They have Chapters
I'm using this plus other shit in the Liber Hereticus and the Black Books to organize me warband due to their enormous size
Currently I have "finished" writing their overview (might go back to it, add/remove and edit it a bit) and soon I'm doing their culture which will be BIG.
I want to separate it in "Warmongers universal culture" and then make "Major Cultural Impacts" which are separated by legions and yadda yadda
Shits gonna be LENGTHY
They do but it’s never explored or really shown much
Yeah definitely a case of writers hating definite numbers
Same, but I’ve basically used the Sevatar organisation
They were organized smh, they just used Nostraman gang symbols and had edgy names to shit instead of standard practice
Big ass Cohort taking many companies
Yeah but like
Gang wars
As par the course

They weren’t allowed to have gang wars in the legion
People who did that got killed
Honour duels for rank were allowed but regulated
If you didn’t deserve the rank you got killed
Tbf whenever numbers do come up. It's usually wrong
Either from the author's lack of knowledge, a mistake in scale
Etc.
Remember when like 12 Deathwing Paladins held off 100 Justaerin
Which 40k have a lot of
Fucking crusade numbers lol
I add like
Two zeros by default
Everytime solid numbers come up
Since like
It takes place in a fucking Galaxy
Not always tbh, sometimes they just don’t get it esp for elite formations
For big ass battles between the scrubs sure though

There aren’t 10000 Justaerin and if there were 1200 paladins would still die to them
True
This is just like
A generalist type thing
But yeah in general that works a lot
I still choose not to believe the numbers given to us by novels and shit because those are always changing
I like keeping it vague
Better for storytelling and pulling shit out of your ass
Man I wonder why there's honor duel requests between two specific groups, must've been the wind
Yeah roughly lol
It’s like weird and random
And NL honour duels are really bereft of honour
If you kill the guy you win, do whatever you want
Which tbh works
Because if I end up writing my warband and trying to think for a number of astartes for them
It might be too small considered the fuckass writing imma make for their cultural practices and organization
I guess it doesn't like
Allow people to get jumped?
And that's the extent
1v1 but anything goes
Throw pocket sand to blind them
Yeah sounds about right
And shit like that
What about trapping the planned arena
Since honor duels usually state
A time and place

I mean honor in a duel is also a dumb ass concept
Like yeah man I won't do something that gives me advantage and let myself get killed
You can if they think your boss is an idiot
I think this happened in Painted Count
"My squad leader a FUCKING ASS DUMBFUCK. JUMP HIM NOW"
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time for slop
I feel like honor duels exist so the underlings can get out aggressive tendencies without inhibiting warband strength
complete with slop thumbnail
Although now that eyes are on you, you gotta do a better job or the Atramentar will kill you
Or the Contekar will take your command
If your boss is being a fuckwit your just gonna kill him
Probably
Those are more the gladiator pits
The WE used it a lot but other legions had it as well
Then settling differences or using it as a tool to control the underlings
You could go from first injury to third injury or to the death but those were rare
Or to last blood
You don't want your underlings killing each other when they could be killing the enemy
And kill the guy
Kharn to erebus
Angron dgaf
Sauaginus extremsus
But for the Nlords yeah
Ok khorne worshipper
Angron didnt but the WE did
Iirc its mentioned they would even punish a guy (i think Draco was his name?) by forcing him on multiple duels to third blood until he was exhausted so he'd understand despite the nails theyre still brothers and need each other
Yeah true
Khârn I think meted punishment before too
Tbf the honor part is more so a legitmizing factor
Ironically to prevent stuff like cheating
If you do something "unfair"
You don't get the position
Because allowing anything goes inevitably leads to the duel uh
Affecting more than two people
Of course the Night Lords didn't get the memo

If you get outplayed you deserved it
To be a Night Lord is to know these kind of things
Yeah it's more so to at least limit it to just one other person
Instead of like
"I brought a fucking cannon! I blew up an entire house."

Cause when anything goes, you're gonna go overkill

The NL duels sre
I assume somewhere isolated from peolle
If only to not get complaints about murdering several people due to a random ass grudge duel
...frequently at least
I definitely know the NLs murder people for fun
But like
They probably don't wanna attract attention from their genedad
Yeah like hed care
appropriate Confucian prevention of potential retaliation
can’t have someone seek revenge if everyone who cared about them is also dead
Yussssss
Tyranid Warrior time
Great news for anyone who's got stacks of Tyranid warriors

Nah Shang and Gendor had theirs in front of the whole Kyroptera lol
Although admittedly genedad wasn’t present
Tyranids were today?
Ye
C’mon Necrons Votann or CSM lemme see you tomorrow
CSM and Daemons tomorrow

Also I’m noticing we’re adding detachments that make models into Battleline
Will I actually see Lokhusts become Battleline?

Nids look so fun to play
but I rather blow my brains out than do a full ass horde army
Can't wait to deploy 2000pts of just Tyranid Warriors
Just like the good old days
lol
nid warriors not being battleline by default was lame
tbh
Nah I don't think they'll kill daemons
Well they said Daemons are getting their rules tomorrow
I hope not
So unlikely they're dead
Gang I'm going to crash out my warframe builds are all out of date so bad
My baruuk isn't red-critting the whole game anymore I'm putting a gun in my mouth
Where did they say this
I want to see the sole daemon player suffer
U gonna play revenant now?
I was made fun off too much for playing revenant and just afking so no
Learn to read first and you'll see
I can't read
i'm crine
Check WarCom you bingus
Got a regular Maura Labingi over here
I wish I had a weird gay uncle who left me a huge fortune
You just got to do the thing with his ring first
Issue is GW rarely does previews together
Otherwise they would have shown GSC with Nids
It's a Friday
Ultimately I don't care if Daemons get squashed, pessimism just pisses me off
It's probably not getting squashed
If they brought back the squats they can dust off the daemon bits
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Vhostok_Pistonhand are these guys the same with a different name or is it different persons with the same title ?
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Azgorek_Varren
are they struck by the same autism
Struck by 40k on the nose naming syndrome
I mean they both took over a forgeworld to chain build daemon engines and nothing else
and have the title/name pistonhand
mysterious

There are two pistonhands inside you
one is an iron warrior and one is a world eater ? to be honest fair
since I play my army both as chaos undivided and world eaters depending on the mood
but still
odd

Whatever you do, don't clench
That was funnier than it should have been
Title of my autobiography
It’s been gone for a while
They got indexed in 10e
They'll come back, trust
What detachments we expecting for CSM?
Considering how specific and focused they are I’d bet we get one for Warpsmiths, Chosen, and Masters of Possession or something
Wdym
They aren’t gonna lock units to detachs
I’m expecting a redo of Dread Talons
And Nightmare Hunt to stay
No I meant detachments seem to prioritize specific models or units
Since battleshock isn’t ass
No I don’t see that for CSM tbh
PBZ and VotLW let you take anything
yeah CSM might be the only case
Nightmare Hunt too
Maybe lol
except maybe damned models
Chaos Knights too I think but I haven’t done them in a while
True
there is a CSM detachment where you can play only damned
Chaos Cult innit
Or whatever it was
yup
Ah
soulforged warpack more or less can do that too
of course if you want to benefit from enhancements you have to take a warpsmith or a discordant (warpsmith is better)
well soulforged warpack is the one for daemon engine (subsequently the one I main lol)
makes your daemon engines melee freaks
I always lose because I have no fodder infantry
I see VotLW and PBZ a lot, I think like CoB and Nightmare Hunt occasionally, now that you mention it I think might’ve known a guy who runs Soulforged or Cabal
I've seen iron fortitude a lot
Buy yo cultists 
Is tabletop more or less expensive than golf
well I have planned to use skittles as traitor guardsmen (I know they suck but the wargear is somewhat similar)
Maybe my experience but I think golf was more expensive
Fair fair
it is as expensive as cocaine addiction
True
Printing is a big one
Had we ever seen the Knight lifter platforms before
That's noice
Big bawx.
finally, an explanation of how the fuck a knight lands on a planet
You know I’ve never given thought to how my Knighst actually get there before this
I think it was always explained to be specialized lifter no ?
I've been told they're thrown on a planet like that and somewhat miraculously land unharmed
Genuinely surprising to me atp
I once heard some kind of transport ship brings them down from the main ship
I might be wrong lol
I assume chaos knights go there by the sheer power of portals lol
I don’t even know how much I spent on TT
where do you hear this from lmao
we always knew how knights/titans landed on planets
I think this was like the Vraks experience
At least it doesn't waste dozens of acres of perfectly good land per match ❤️🩹
idk I've heard it that's all
Nah the chaos titans there came out of a crashed chaos ship
Real
Funny
which was already gonna land to unload the chaos titans anyway
so uhhh
good job imperials?
Mission accomplished unsuccessfully
knight abominant, open the portal
We are getting Loyal and chaos knight detachments right?
I wonder, if I have a chaos knight as an ally in a CSM army can I give it a detachment?

no

there is a detachment however IIRC that allows you to have cultists or sumthin
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oh right lmao the eradication ray fires yellow beams
Dilara on her way to write up another Glup Shitto wiki article
it looks so fucking cursed lol
why isn't it white 
same with the galvanic rifle rounds but those vary in color at least
could have been teal as well
also phosphor shots look very different from what I expected lmao
I love being able to see the iron harvest skeletons in the walkers
Tbh they're said to be blinding white
I thought it fired some sort of bright glowing white foam
They're way more blue then I expected lol
Phosphor is supposed be like a flare so yeah
it fires white globs of shit
Idk why it’s lasery
I prefer writing actual lore instead of Astarshitto slop so
ahh fuck they play like
um
fuck I forgot the faction
but the noosphere reminds me of another faction in a diff game
tbh radioactive carbine firing like crazy is accurate
Anything but Astarshitto
Unless it’s WS
monolith ?
Then is Astarpeak
bro everyone but the electro priests and HQ are tweaking lmao
no
Radium being blue is ok or not ?
like gameplay
Its blue
normally
unless GW painters wana be cute
lol
after touching up the entire Savlar page i needed a break tbh 😭
truly crazy
Real
Average chud
marshal think he tuff
Mags is on her Romaboo arc
At least I can point people somewhere if they ask for Savlar spess mehreen now
I cannot believe a civilization who based its entire culture in stealing/copying others and conquest got slaughtered
LMAOOOOO
The marshal looks cool
not a single arc rifle in sight... devastating
ngl
it's exact same as the model
RIP
that sucks ngl
skittles have diverse wargear
I only know this bcs I'm a fucking dumbass nerd
nah there will be upgrades for squads that's like an RTS staple
Think we saw the bodyguard of the Marshal with Plasma Calliver ?
yeah
my marshal is the horus heresy one so I didnt notice 
Might mean that they can do more varied weapons as different upgrades
this is a faction preview so I doubt they'll show it all
^
DoW 1 did that
Iron harvest did that (the devs making this game)
every RTS basically does that
also where ad mech planes and pteraxii
Its not the internet if you dont judge everything from just 1 trailer
Pteraxii will be in Mechanicus 2
Scythe is such an interesting setting, would love to see it get some more video games (Battlefield Scythe/Iron Harvest would be a dream)
isn't the phosphor guns blue in the hammer and bolter episode
his silly ad mech staff
phosphor is blueish white
Marshal alsos has a powersword + the rod
they just never use the powersword lmao
that shits tucked in their fucking belt
there he has the staff
yeah no fucking clue
power field moment
oh wait thats another dif
the marshal in DoW4 doesn't have the powersword
scabard
bro cut that ork with the sheer power of math
Aren't Control Staff not Power weapon ?
uh idk good question
they are according to the 8e skitarii marshal trailer




