40k-lore-chat

[solid horizon]

I guess black isn't exactly easy to paint well

[hallow saddle]

idk i see some black legion models

nobodys bringing alpha legion chaos space marines to anything

[solid horizon]

I do see some alpha legion models as well

[hallow saddle]

well thats cool. i hope they get some shit

[solid horizon]

It's a very popular scheme for heldrakes

Only times I've seen it, it was a heldrake heavy list

[fervent geode]

They used to be very nice

[storm jungle]

If you do lemme know lol

[solid horizon]

Idk I'm not a fan of the flowerpot green

[rancid cove]

I'll probably not im not really that hyped over reading novels but im trying to force myself into reading them
Might give a reading in the codexes and other shit tho

[fervent geode]

It’s better than Abbadon’s scheme

[rancid cove]

Sons of Horus > Black Legion

[fervent geode]

Any day

[solid horizon]

Depends on what you apply it on

[fervent geode]

[solid horizon]

Old black legion scheme used to involve a lot more red, for some reason GW doesn't do it anymore

[fervent geode]

Justaerin red yeah

[solid horizon]

Like red horns, red gradients on legs

[fervent geode]

It would be better if it was kept lol

[solid horizon]

As well as exotic fur

[hallow saddle]

the black legion contrast paint is rly nice

super opaque and kinda matte

[fervent geode]

To remove them from the SoH I guess

[solid horizon]

I think old school bl scheme was cool

[hollow lantern]

I love sea foam green SoH

[fervent geode]

Abbadon Black is good

[hallow saddle]

so it goes on nice over a metallic spray & base coat

[solid horizon]

I kinda want to make a glossy black black legion but idk

My terminators painted as such is very matte already

[hallow saddle]

u could go over it again with some black templar, thats a bit more glossy

but its fairly translucent

black legion is super opaque which kinda rocks

sicko paint

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[hallow saddle]

one of the best hobby vids i ever saw was actually on WH+ from the 2 battle report painter guys

talking about black legion actually

i cant remember the scheme but they give out tons of hobby pro tips it was awesopme

theyre painting a squad of 10 BL in a morning

[fervent geode]

I learned NL lightning from Citadel vids lol

[rancid cove]

I understand the idea of making them stand out from Horus and not wanting to associate with him for his failure but man the fucking green is so much better than the pure black armor they use nowadays

[solid horizon]

Anyways, old black legion scheme (and features) used to be silver/gunmetal trim, glossy black main, red gradient departing from feet, red horns and trim colored (barbaric fashionned) helmet with occasional bits of exotic fur

I think it's more interesting than

[fervent geode]

It would be better if they kept the Justaerin scheme

[solid horizon]

Matte black with pale gold trim

[rancid cove]

The Justaerin scheme was cool but man... This goes way harder

[rancid cove]

He mogs any Black Legionnaire

[hallow saddle]

well the HH colour plates are just absolute peak in general

[fervent geode]

True

[rancid cove]

That is true as fuck
ngl HH is much much cooler than a lot of 40k shit tbh

theres a few 40k concepts i enjoy more than HH

[hallow saddle]

the hh black books from forge world doing a ton of heavy lifting

[rancid cove]

Dark Angels also used to have much more cool-looking scheme than now

[arctic talon]

Incorrect

[fervent geode]

Dark Angels Black is a lot better yeah

[rancid cove]

This over that shitty as green

[arctic talon]

Green is awesome

[fervent geode]

At least Fallen still have it

[arctic talon]

Fuck you the green is great

Smh

[fervent geode]

No

[rancid cove]

https://tenor.com/qf2DuFGltjh.gif

[fervent geode]

Ravenwing Supremacy

[arctic talon]

I cannot be the only fucking DA green enjoyer here

[fervent geode]

You are

[rose thorn]

BL and SoH are the same thing there is a warband in the BL called the I think sons of the warmaster who wear their old colors

[spare osprey]

He is not.

[fervent geode]

Prepare to fight for your last

[hollow lantern]

Huge fan of DA aesthetics I'm ngl

[fervent geode]

Not really

[hollow lantern]

Like one of my favorites end all be all

[arctic talon]

Thank fuck I’m not alone

[hollow lantern]

They have awful writing tho

[arctic talon]

Praise be

[fervent geode]

BL warbands wearing the green is big haram

[arctic talon]

Ngl i think Lion letting the fallen be tortured before he okays them is really funny

[rose thorn]

I like the green

[fervent geode]

The true sons wear the old colours but they are thrice cursed traitors Abbadon hates

[vagrant fox]

Green mogs as long as they have their robes on

[hollow lantern]

I'm ngl I forgot he was even back in the setting

[rancid cove]

The BL and the SoH are not the same

[fervent geode]

Fuck it’s Thramas again

Surrounded

By DA greenfools

[rose thorn]

The green is much more meaningful to them than the black (which is supposed to be green)

[arctic talon]

You’re surrounded come out and put your green on

[fervent geode]

Ok ok but not that crap green

[mossy peak]

theyre so forgettable i forgot about them

[rose thorn]

They literally are they remained them selves

[arctic talon]

DA green is infact aura

[fervent geode]

The Black Legion isn’t only former SoH

[rose thorn]

Yea dark green FUCKS

[rancid cove]

https://tenor.com/cLb5e26jmuI.gif

he has me

[hollow lantern]

I'm ngl the only green I don't love is Salamanders green and even that one looks good

[fervent geode]

The founding members include World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Emperor’s Children, Word Bearers

[rose thorn]

Doesn’t mean they aren’t SoH still

[fervent geode]

Its supposed to be a new legacy

[rose thorn]

It’s like 70% sons of horus

[rancid cove]

they changed their appearance and pretty much their objective
most if not all BL dont associate themselves with Horus anymore
so its not really the same

[arctic talon]

BL def have some of the SoH culture in them still lol

[hollow lantern]

BL have some SoH culture but they're distinctly not SoH

[fervent geode]

He explicitly doesn’t want the Black Legion to be SoH 2, but they do have some cultural holdout

[arctic talon]

Yeah

they're an evolution of the SoH

[fervent geode]

Totally not a Mournival, the Ezekarion is

[hollow lantern]

More so than most warbands are evolutions of their groups, yeah

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[rose thorn]

Yeah, saying the soh have more aura than BL is like saying Ameba has more aura than the bacteria

I mena mogs

What ever

[hollow lantern]

30k marines in general are cooler than 40k marines

[hallow saddle]

they like deliberately cast off their soh identity and put on the black

[arctic talon]

big things happening in the 40k discord

lol

[hallow saddle]

cause horus failed and they got their shit kicked in

[rose thorn]

God I hate it here

Lmao

[arctic talon]

nah thats funny as shit lol

[hollow lantern]

40k main server?

[arctic talon]

Like the fucking bees surrounding the wasps

[arctic talon]

Yes someone was saying Salamanders need to be nicer and this was the response

[fervent geode]

Amazing

[rose thorn]

Assault intercessors

[hollow lantern]

I looked in there once recently and didn't recognize anyone

Was nice

[arctic talon]

Atlas remains

[hollow lantern]

Regrettably

[arctic talon]

lol

I think ICC are genuinely the best primaris GW has ever done

[rose thorn]

ICC?

[hollow lantern]

Dark Angels inner circle?

I agree

[arctic talon]

yeah

the inner circle companions

[hollow lantern]

DA primaris are the best primaris

[rose thorn]

Oh) yeha they fuck

[arctic talon]

aka the fucking weirdos

mfw random members of Deathwing and the Inner circle just vanish

and these guys show up

lol

[arctic talon]

I think it can be argued between DA and BT tbh

BA have like, good primaris characters

[hollow lantern]

I mean

[arctic talon]

do not talk about sanguniary guard

that shit is ass

[hollow lantern]

BT are my second pick fwiw

[arctic talon]

Fair

lol

[hollow lantern]

DA and BT are both like

Exceptionally well realized ranges

I wish I liked either of them

[arctic talon]

ngl DA being a bunch of psychopathic knights is funny to me

shame I don't like how they play

[hollow lantern]

They got multiple styles for that

[rose thorn]

What’s wrong with sang guard

[arctic talon]

wdym "whats wrong"

[solid horizon]

Too bad you can't bait deathwing termies with cypher anymore

[arctic talon]

they look hideous lol

[rose thorn]

They are like just worst stormcasts what’s the biggie

[solid horizon]

Ave caesar ahh

[arctic talon]

they look like a rejected fucking 2e stormcast sculpt lol

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

thats the PROBLEM LOL

[solid horizon]

Why are they golden

[rose thorn]

Tbf they probably are

[arctic talon]

Sanguinary guard have always been golden

[rancid cove]

I don't speak epstein files

[rose thorn]

First company colors of BA

[arctic talon]

bcs sang was golden

nah

first company of BA is just red

lol

[rose thorn]

Oh

[arctic talon]

and gold helmets

[fervent geode]

Raldoron moment

[hollow lantern]

BA possibly have the worst specific firstborn to primaris stuff

[arctic talon]

ngl I like the sang priest, he's like literally corbulo

[rose thorn]

Like?

[arctic talon]

Sanguinary guard

Sanguinary guard

[solid horizon]

Fully gold armors look horrid man

[arctic talon]

and Sanguinary Guard

[rose thorn]

Lmao

Sw models look pretty bad it’s the same kit 4 times

[arctic talon]

the old sanguinary guard looked much better

[rose thorn]

Okay liek 3 times

[arctic talon]

even if they were manlets

[hollow lantern]

@rose thorn these, death company, no cool dread anymore

[arctic talon]

yeah

[solid horizon]

I couldn't imagine an army that's fully golden

[arctic talon]

the new death company are also ass

since they're an upgrade sprue

[vagrant fox]

Incredible how they lost all of their aura

[rose thorn]

They always have been an upgrade sprue no?

[arctic talon]

Genuinely no one fucking likes the new sang guard

all the new art in codex uses the old design as well

so like

????????

[hallow saddle]

they're a miss for sure

[arctic talon]

nah, Death company were a unique kit since their introduction as a standalone unit

[solid horizon]

New soulgrinder sculpt when

[rose thorn]

Tbf they literally are just assault intercessors

[arctic talon]

the generic characters + named characters were the good part of the Primaris BA refresh

[arctic talon]

they aren't equipment wise

and also heraldry wise lol

[rose thorn]

Art of the kitbash

[arctic talon]

this is like saying Prosecutors are actually annihilators

lol

[rose thorn]

Prosecutors have wings unlike sang guard

[arctic talon]

💀

you get the point

[rose thorn]

Annihilators are the terminators

[arctic talon]

don't be obtuse on purpose

lol

[solid horizon]

GW gave us a new defiler but forgot about soulgrinder being built on a literal defiler chassis

[arctic talon]

I'd assume its just a pattern of defiler

[fervent geode]

Soulgrinders are the inspiration for defilers iirc

[arctic talon]

oh my god its still in fucking production
https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/shop/Soul-Grinder?queryID=1ee37579336269e465daa7d2bb7ab067

[fervent geode]

Like Vashtorr was hired to make the Defiler

[hallow saddle]

i dont reckon theyve forgotten

[fervent geode]

At Xana II

[rose thorn]

40K still has soul grinders unlike AOS lmao

[solid horizon]

No ?

Abaddon was the one to commission them

[arctic talon]

They're in legends in AoS aren't they lol?

[rose thorn]

Yeah lmao

[arctic talon]

GW should make new soulgrinders for AoS and 40k

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

it would be funny

[fervent geode]

From Vashtorr and Xana II

[arctic talon]

Soulgrinders are so anachronistic

for AoS and WHFB

its part of the charm imo

[solid horizon]

Me when I bring the defiler centaur in a medieval battle

[hallow saddle]

if they get a new model theyll have moved away from thee defiler i reckon cause the design language for daemon engines in 40k has changed from what it was

[rose thorn]

I assumed that death company to Assault intercessors is like sequitors to liberators

[fervent geode]

Yeah probably

[arctic talon]

nah Death Company were more like really fucked up tanks you chucked at a target lol

[solid horizon]

Yup

[arctic talon]

you sort of just sent them into die in a suicide charge to kill the one thing you wanted lol

and if they lived you do it again bcs they have 0 utility aside from that

[rose thorn]

Ah, ptsd makes gives you +1 to armor saves

[arctic talon]

nah

they get a FNP

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[solid horizon]

Decimator is the last blocky daemon engine alas it's never getting a new sculpt 😔

They all look a lot more insectoid now

[arctic talon]

what a beautiful thing you are

I think the Decimator likely won't get a redesign

tbh

[solid horizon]

That's what I said

[arctic talon]

The defiler got a redesign because so many people said it looked like shit

[rose thorn]

They should add ram to the hover tanks

[arctic talon]

I do think the decimator will get a new kit eventually

I'm bored GW give me more sylvaneth minis

[rose thorn]

FRRRR

New dryads

Pls

[solid horizon]

Now if you want to use conversion beamer or storm laser you have to get original ones or kitbash lol

Because GW only sells default gun and decimator shotgun thing

[vagrant fox]

You'll get another set of sanguinary guard and like it

[arctic talon]

ngl

[solid horizon]

I wish they were all in the same kit

[arctic talon]

if GW makes new sang guard

that aren't dogshit

that would be nice

but I don't play BA anymore

[vagrant fox]

Well I tried

Decimator doesn't seem to need a refresh but they should definitely refresh the cannon of Khorne

[solid horizon]

The horrible ass old mardi gras ahh model ?

[vagrant fox]

Yes

Some shoe polish and some changes and it'd be perfect

My chudling cannon

[solid horizon]

Wouldnt a refresh just turn it into a direct fire plagueburster crawler ?

But red

[vagrant fox]

Don't matter I'm a khornehead

[solid horizon]

Fair

I am getting a bloodslaughterer

[vagrant fox]

The other chaos gods don't have the appropriate style

[solid horizon]

I can basically play my chaos army either as undivided or world eaters

Ill play world eaters when I'm in the mood to fire

[vagrant fox]

I should resume assembling my khornates

Misplaced the primer tho, cost me my entire motivation

[solid horizon]

Ill have my chaos black primer tomorrow, I will finally be able to start working on my defiler and forgefiend

White primer for chaos is reverse heresy

[raven stone]

Need to get some purity seal bits to personalize my Inquisitor just a bit more, and also do green stuff repair for a single ribbon bow

then I can finally get around to painting the two characters I want done really well 🤣:

Then wait for 11th Detachments to drop

[hallow saddle]

it looks so jarring seeing chaos space marines next to it instead of like the old chaos dwarf models or smth

[raven stone]

to decide where to take my Imperial Agents collection

[solid horizon]

I never noticed the khorne rune was a stylized skull

[arctic talon]

lol

[solid horizon]

It never came to my mind until I read it was supposed to be that

[arctic talon]

It’s not extremely obvious at a glance tbf

[solid horizon]

It's not easy to see when it doesn't have the little teeth on the bottom line

[plush mason]

it is a skull?

[solid horizon]

Yes, apparently

[plush mason]

i cant see it

[hollow lantern]

It's easier like this

[solid horizon]

Lol

[plush mason]

yeah that i can see the skull

[raven stone]

Bottom triangle is skull and teeth, top are the unique...horn...things

[solid horizon]

Bloodslaughterer has it on its head fulfilling the role of exactly what it's supposed to depict

[hollow lantern]

It's eyes

[plush mason]

who the hell is bloodslaughter?

[solid horizon]

This

[hollow lantern]

It's just a machine

[solid horizon]

Machine of khorne

[plush mason]

ngl i was expecting a named daemon

[solid horizon]

Logo is its face

[vagrant fox]

It's a little peculiar

Bloodslaughter should also be refreshed 100%

[solid horizon]

Idk

I like it as it is

It's already a refresh as well

[hallow saddle]

if its FW im not sure itll ever be refreshed

[solid horizon]

That too

[rancid cove]

"The Salamanders are the good guys!!! They like, treat humans with care and they put humans above their own lives and the mission!"

Salamanders the moment you complain about the Imperium's regime

[vagrant fox]

It's fine we just need a century of Khorne ws

[solid horizon]

I mean unlike it other forgeworld brother (decimator) it has curved shape language like modern daemon engines

[vagrant fox]

Eightbound is not it

[plush mason]

isnt Khorne technically always winning? so long as wars are being fought and blood spelt he is winning

[solid horizon]

Would you like it if someone complained about something very dear to you

[rancid cove]

No, that reaction gif is me to anyone who slanders my favorite factions

[vagrant fox]

Yeah I just need a bigger win, give Slaanesh the AoS treatment, free Isha, something Tzeentch

[plush mason]

have Khorne throw Tzeentch in that well thing

[vagrant fox]

Shure

[arctic talon]

Khorne dunking tzeentch into the well repeatedly

[vagrant fox]

Atomic wedgie for good measure

[plush mason]

yes

[vagrant fox]

Just materialise murdercurse frenzon on some sector as well so I'll be happier

[daring creek]

Wasn't even the spikey bit that hit

[rancid cove]

yeah thats how fucked those weapons are

[plush mason]

wwell it doesnt have any spikes so ofc no spikes hit

[daring creek]

you know what I mean

https://tenor.com/view/help-me-im-getting-stoned-stone-rock-smash-gif-16059954

[plush mason]

that was more a problem of the user than the weapon

dude just full on missed

[dapper gyro]

Skill issue salvaged by quality equipment.

[plush mason]

yup

[arctic talon]

lol

[rancid cove]

Talos is a stupid ass bum but god this art makes him look cool

[vital ginkgo]

What armor mk is most used among the traitor legions?

[rancid cove]

it depends on the legion

but like

in lore the easiest armor to mix-match with other pattern parts is mk5 so probably that one

some still deploy the use of mk3

mk 7 is also highly seen i think

[crystal forum]

anything before 7 and after 1

[rancid cove]

Chaos marines use 8 and even 10 i think

[arctic talon]

Varies wildly, MK4, 6, 7, 8 and 10 are the most valued

[winged jacinth]

All the chaos gods are always winning
The imperium is a disease ridden war economy overseen by hedonistic schemers

[arctic talon]

Mk5 is considered trash but necessary

[winged jacinth]

I think a lot of the time its "what do we have"

[arctic talon]

^

[winged jacinth]

They don't have forge worlds cranking out pristine new armor (mostly?) So its all looted and patched up

And much of it is very old as you might imagine

[arctic talon]

well

[arctic talon]

hellforges can make armor for them if they can pay

lol

[rancid cove]

Thats only for the broke warbands

[winged jacinth]

I mean if you went heretic 10,000 years ago...

[arctic talon]

This warband still loots armor the old fashioned way

[dapper gyro]

Mk7 is there for like 8000 years.

There are plenty.

[winged jacinth]

I love that meme because its like
Its not just labor that made everyone stop doing it that way

[dapper gyro]

Depending on warband, some of them are blessed with generative power and repair their armour for themselves.

[winged jacinth]

The traditional way loses a ton of carbonation and doesnt mix that well

[winged jacinth]

I was rechecking which mks were which and i forgot the mk5 was the fake mk they used to designate mutt armor lmao

In general, Mark II and III components can be combined without issue, as can those of Marks IV, VI and the much later Mark VII.kitbashing canon

[dapper gyro]

There are mk5 using mk6 base, but from the mk7 onward, it wasn't necessary anymore.

[arctic talon]

Scalpers.exe

[fervent geode]

All marks except Mk I depending on legion/warband

Mark V is shit but still exists some places

The Night Lords in particular are commonly seen in Mark IV or Mark VI (Cross of Bone)

[crystal forum]

guys guys

guess what star wars pun you can make today

[fervent geode]

Huh

Oh wait

[crystal forum]

on this day of the calendar

[fervent geode]

May the fifth be with you?

Isn’t it fourth

[crystal forum]

damn timezones

[fervent geode]

Ohhhh

It’s still the fourth in Canada

lol

[crystal forum]

there's multiple timezones but yeah

anyways i saw that on disney+

funny

[fervent geode]

Lmao

[winged jacinth]

I saw some real ebin memes

[crystal forum]

trying to fill in the void that andor has left in me and nothing fills

[winged jacinth]

I appreciate that the primaris armors besides phobos pattern have gorgets

Andor being good was a fluke disney has no intention of making quality content im sorry

[fervent geode]

Disney is enraged that Andor was good

I asked Michael D Mouse himself

[crystal forum]

michael dennis mouse???

[winged jacinth]

I can legitimately imagine they're annoyed that it's a point of comparison to the other star wars shows

[fervent geode]

https://tenor.com/view/mickey-gif-24453324

[winged jacinth]

I've heard a lot of complaints involving the comparison

[crystal forum]

like not even mandalorian is filling the void

and that was the best star wars show for a bit

[winged jacinth]

Have you tried drugs or alcohol abuse

[fervent geode]

Mandalorian is not standing up to Andor

[crystal forum]

it feels cheap in comparisom!!

[winged jacinth]

I don't know what good shows are i basically gave up on tv

Watch the sopranos

[dapper gyro]

Mando S1 was up there.

[fervent geode]

I’m watching Dr House yet again

[winged jacinth]

Again if you already have

[dapper gyro]

But S2 and S3 are just mediocre.

[crystal forum]

i cant rewatch breaking bad and better call saul for another time

[fervent geode]

It started falling off after yeah

[crystal forum]

or maybe i can

[dapper gyro]

S2 started to get non sense.

[winged jacinth]

Watch some of the crazy shit bob odenkirk has writing credits on

[dapper gyro]

S3 is nostalgia bait.

[winged jacinth]

Im still in awe of the move that is giving infowars to tim heidecker of all people

[crystal forum]

i'd watch anything vince gilligan touched

sadly he has not touched much

[crystal forum]

and he's turning it into a trans comedy show

[winged jacinth]

You should watch On Cinema At The Cinema

[crystal forum]

I ALREADY HAVE

what do you take me for

[winged jacinth]

Again

Are you a timhead or a greghead

[crystal forum]

i'm a timhead

greg is always barging in with his stupid movie collection

[winged jacinth]

I think he should have got the chair for what those vapes did to those kids

[crystal forum]

and tim is going through a lot especially after tom cruise died

[crystal forum]

not according to the court of law!

[winged jacinth]

And ayaka leaving him...

I actually haven't watched the last bits that are only on the adult swim site so im kinda a hypocrite

But in my defense the adult swim site sucks ass

[arctic talon]

The animated stuff they’ve done recently was good as well

Anyways andor is peak

[crystal forum]

idk how to even access it here

there's no adult swim plan in canada

[winged jacinth]

Is it not free?

[crystal forum]

no

doesnt let me

[winged jacinth]

I thought it was just site locked damn

Im not buying no adult swim plan

I wonder if someone's pirated them lol

[crystal forum]

might be a region thing

[arctic talon]

Because no French?

Or something

[crystal forum]

idk

[winged jacinth]

Hey do you guys want to know something horrible about reality

[arctic talon]

Utah

[winged jacinth]

What happens if we take the pulsed laser beam and turn the brightness way, way down? Say by sending it through an absorber like some welding glass, so that on average only one pulse in ten even has a photon? Interestingly, none of our experimental results change at all. Now the light in each ‘laser’ color after the prism is very faint, and we have to wait quite a while for a photon to show up. But the photons still show up at random times (mostly between pulses), and the spectrum still has the distinct comb-like color pattern we saw before.

[crystal forum]

cool

[sacred ginkgo]

What's horrific about this

[winged jacinth]

You're starting with a pulsed laser and getting steady output streams

Which really isnt supposed to happen

[sacred ginkgo]

Oh so its like

Always making a rainbow even if it only hits one way?

[winged jacinth]

I don’t think that word means what you think it means. We do the experiment, this is the result. As an experimentalist it is not my job to tell nature what they can or cannot do. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯```

[arctic talon]

cursed knowledge

[winged jacinth]

If you hit the prism with a white laser for a millisecond every second you will see continuous beams of light for the entire time both during and between pulses

And if you are only sending very few photons they still distribute themselves over the same pattern

[crystal forum]

why though

[winged jacinth]

How long do you got lol

[crystal forum]

im really high so not long before my attention span is gone

[winged jacinth]

The basic idea is that the wave functions of the photons get very smeared out in the process of separating colors of light

The actual math has to do with stuff like dirac frequency combs no one wants to hear about

Small stuff is fuckin weird

[dapper gyro]

You act as if big stuff is not also weird.

[winged jacinth]

At least its somewhere

[heady rivet]

My commission is locked in and paid for lets gooooooooo

@storm jungle thanks for the image archive it saved me having to scrape the books myself

[storm jungle]

Anytime dont mention it 🫡

[heady rivet]

Its actually Warhammer related so I'll post it here when it comes in

[storm jungle]

[celest cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231286447131328544/1501096773027102812/RDT_20260505_111219.mp4?ex=69fad4cf&is=69f9834f&hm=95c8834270610fbc3649297aebfc4354029bd1c410cabe79b5cab1b615fab0a9&

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/lone-wolf-alpha-male-core-sigma-gif-8056012431447160664

[lyric lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/vainzi-white-guy-gif-24847210

[crystal forum]

i found the thing!!!!

[misty vector]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-plink-cat-gif-1794292671885121408

Stares at you

[raven stone]

Well the detachment drip is starting

Orks yesterday, Marines today

Guard then Agents afterwards...?

[urban spire]

struggling to figure out what exactly makes the dark angels different from other chapters tactically

[shadow plover]

Their wings

and access to esoteric weapons

[fervent geode]

Knightly symbols too

The robes on armour

Hoods on helms

[urban spire]

yeah lexicanum has this fuckass wall of text about it, which could prob be summarized as they have more plasma

[shadow plover]

tactical hoods

[urban spire]

tactical robes

i mean yeah i already know they look fucking stupid i'm just wondering what makes them special in any way that matters

[fervent geode]

They have a gun that shoots time

They had literal enslaved men of iron

The Dreadwing’s Exterminatus Grade Weaponry horde is prob only rivalled by the Death Guard

They are also egotistical fucks

[urban spire]

exterminatus stuff is dumb anyway when the baseline is cracking open the planets crust

the rest is just jerking off

[fervent geode]

From what I recall we (NL) and DA have the same preferred method for planetary annihilation Exterminatus

[urban spire]

literally everyone in the setting can do that except like

gangers and GSC

[fervent geode]

Shoot into a fault line until it cracks then keep shooting at it

[urban spire]

and GSC have their own endgame conditions

[fervent geode]

GSC just want the Nids to takeover and eat them

So it’ll be biological Exterminatus in the end ig

[urban spire]

so in terms of combat the dark angels doctrine is to be nepobabies with their guns

[celest dome]

Is Orteil the Cookie clicker Dev ?

[urban spire]

yeah i guess

[fervent geode]

That’s the Dreadwing

They are also known for being excellent Swordsmen

Inheritance of Caliban

[urban spire]

yeah them and every other chapter

[fervent geode]

Inner Circle Companions and Deathwing esp

[fervent geode]

Tbh yeah

They have a shitload of tanks and automata too

Ironwing

And like a shitload of bikes

Ravenwing

They basically do everything

They were a generalist legion

[urban spire]

space marine bikes are so dumb i don't want to get into it

[fervent geode]

They are dumb until the Ordu of Jaghatai uses them

I love ts shit

[urban spire]

see that's a hover bike that's fine

it is at least agile

the wheeled space marine bikes are so awful

vehicle that has to be out of cover, with an exposed pilot, driving directly at the enemy to take shots

a tactical hobby horse is more useful

[urban spire]

and PUT A HELMET ON DUMBASS

it's not just a good idea it's the law

[fervent geode]

Ik but alas this was the first picture available

Which sucks

Coz like they have great helms

[celest dome]

Honestly seeing White Scars on Mutated horses could be awesome

[fervent geode]

Oh yeah they suck

Thankfully my goats specialise in anti grav bikes

[urban spire]

idk why they don't put the guns on turrets or gimbals though that's wack

[fervent geode]

Ignore all the slop Sefoni is feeding you

Morrow was the traitor and framed Mara Vinci

He’s actually the biggest Nurglite and traitor on the planet

And I have proof

Everyone who wanted marineslop in Darktide was right all along…

[languid meadow]

Do you think he got the Mexican height decrease surgery to blend in

[rancid cove]

What

[languid meadow]

(also on a real note that shit is awful god looking at the after effects bleh)

[languid meadow]

There's real surgeries where they'll increase your height

[rancid cove]

I mean this

[languid meadow]

Oh people want death guard

To fight

[rancid cove]

[languid meadow]

Honestly it would be fun and the rejects could kill one but like

They're not needed since most if not all nurgle plotlines already have them

So they can sit this one out

[fervent geode]

Yeah I agree

[fervent geode]

He defo did

[celest dome]

Some want to face CSM, and other even want to see SM, either in Darktide, or in a supposed sequel 💀

[fervent geode]

Mortarion’s prerogative

[fervent geode]

“Sergeant-Major” Morrow is in fact a Death Guard Destroyer Sergeant

Anyways idw marines in DT

Buuuuuut if they do add Tzeentchians

Have Spireguard be enemy elites

Say that they were sent as emissaries from Sortiarus and snuck on world masquerading as 21st’s Militarum Transports

[languid meadow]

Also death guard just got a game anyway

With their fucking primarch

Love daemongate

[heady rivet]

Hilarious, because your arms are the same so your proportions are all FUCKED up

[fervent geode]

Chaos Gate fucking sucks if you like DG

But fair

[celest dome]

I wouldn't want forces tied specifically from Chaos Space Marine legions.
Better to have local groups that fell to Chaos instead.

[fervent geode]

I want those too no doubt

But fucking love the Spireguard so I’m going to be biased

[languid meadow]

Tbf other factions have to sit there and take it when the game trashes them, have you seen the thousand son and nid reception to sm2? Nid fans love that shit 😭

Finally a game with them in it

That isn't BFG2

[fervent geode]

No no I totally get it

But like

They butchered the personalities once again

Kadex is the most like stereotypical DG, Mortarion’s fatigued suffering bitter existence was reduced to moustache twirling villain

But I get it it’s good that they got some rep in a game ig

[languid meadow]

I see that yea

Thankfully they didn't get the alpha Legion treatment

Even after all these years the DoW1 chaos marines still baffle me

[fervent geode]

I mean the Alpha Legion is dead lorewise so it’s more fair that they have everything from Bale and Carron to Akurra and Sindri

Some People complain that the warbands in Harrowmaster aren’t very AL and feel generic chaos warband but that’s literally what almost the entirety of the AL is now

[languid meadow]

Yeah Harrow master was great

[fervent geode]

Yeah it’s good to show how little the twins left behind in terms of legacy in 40K

At least NL bands have the legacy of Curze and Nostramo haunting them

Even the non Nostramans learn the lingo sooner or later and have to deal with the baggage of a father they will never know

[languid meadow]

Omegon is just gooning somewhere

I do wonder what his warband is up to

[fervent geode]

He’s dead because I want him to be dead

Also I believe in Eskrador

More dead primarchs good

[celest dome]

What would be more interesting, Omegon having survived, or Alpha

[languid meadow]

Omegon

[fervent geode]

We know that the one who survived is Omegon

It’s in the Head of the Hydra

He woke up to the knowledge to Alpharius’ death

But I’ll take Carthach’s word that Omegon was beheaded at Eskrador

[raven stone]

Many possibilities

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ffoxoqw9/the-rumour-engine-5th-of-may/

[vagrant fox]

aosy vibes

[celest dome]

The stitches make me think it's AoS

[winged silo]

I like how the Brotherhood of Steel is just a substantially worse Adeptus Mechanicus.

[celest dome]

Just realised that it's not a glove but a leather bracer ?

[raven stone]

I mean, given how 40k 11th is going to hog spotlights this month, this is probably an upcoming AoS release

[celest dome]

Wonder if AoS will get something at Skull (other than that Vamp. Survivor styled game

[sharp pollen]

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FixupX · May 2, 2026, 12:49 AM

[raven stone]

...wut foolery is this

[rancid cove]

4chan

Man coming up with major character names suck

I think its worse than naming places/planets or shit like that

Because you can come up with shit like "Arghot Majoris" for a planet but character names gotta have some cohesive meaning

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/scrubs-dr-cox-jd-sad-gif-24645338

This is the setting with

The Lion

[rancid cove]

I want meaningfuk names, kinda

I dont wanna name my warbands leading warpsmith fucking John

[celest cedar]

https://youtu.be/nefk0RUDJD4

[raven stone]

....how!?

[rancid cove]

40k has cool ass names like Sevatarion, Honsou, Kravek Morne

Idk what to name my chuddy ass warpsmith

[heady rivet]

Start with gibberish with the vibe you want and mold it until you gaslight yourself into believing its a name

[fervent geode]

Latin/Greek it till you make it

It’s easier with NL just steal pseudo Hungarian names

[raven stone]

You can always Google online name generators

[rancid cove]

I thought about it, spent like 1h30m cooking up a latin name for the role of leader of warband for my OC and ended up on Domina Cruenta
Might change it to Domina Cruelis

[rancid cove]

I really dont wanna rely on those but some times I use codexes name lists

[raven stone]

I mean, name generators don't force you to take the name wholesale. You can always take a part of what is generated and put your own spin on it

For real world names, though, you can always jam two existing names together where suffix/prefix hasn't appeared before

For example, my Rogue Trader...Anna + Henriette = Annarette

[rancid cove]

Hmmm

True ig

[storm jungle]

Another pro tip from me

look up some movie credits and modify crew member names lol

some folks got EXTREMELY weird/cool names you can just shift around and edit to makeup names lol

[raven stone]

And last but not least

Look at other games and franchises for names (they would have character designers who also took real world words from obscure languages for character names)

[dapper gyro]

The majority of the old names are just normal words put together.

[rancid cove]

I was thinking of doing this with a favorite brazilian author of mine
His name is Cesar Bravo
Such a cool ass name

[dapper gyro]

I find the modern people names are very lacking because most of them are given for conveniency.

[raven stone]

For example. Zandik (Dottore's original name) in Genshin Impact. "Zandik" is the Sanskrit word for "Heretic" and you have to admit, fully fitting for any Word Bearer.

[dapper gyro]

And so it usually follow characters the bible or some other religious books.

Despite even at the high of the catholic church, the common words used for names were... common.

"Oppugno" is to attack. Oppugnator is attacker.

The word is the root word for "offend".

Somehow the pp turned into ff...

You can do the same to find latin root language and its variation, like old french and old italian, old german and saxon words.

[sharp pollen]

🫃

[wary fulcrum]

Meaningful how?

Could always corrupt an name with meaning

[fervent geode]

Doesn’t have to sound like like anything or mean anything

My warband has some stupid ass names

[dapper gyro]

The funny thing about modern languages, some see them as evolution, some see them as the corruption of old languages.

[fervent geode]

Koloszvar Scaevectus

[storm jungle]

Legend

[fervent geode]

Most modern languages came from the Vulgates of old languages

Like most Romance languages are from regional Latin Vulgates

Or Modern Turkish is a Ottoman Turkish vulgate iirc

[sharp pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663756150709420034/1501214421148762155/image.png?ex=69fb4261&is=69f9f0e1&hm=4d13d21108ea68f95069fe512c5936f3f130f0e4ad8f0fa8376636c5c6fe2464&

[fervent geode]

Like Mandarin with Classical Chinese

So both is true

[fervent geode]

But they can sound Warhammer

[dapper gyro]

Well yes, both are true. It is depend if you are purist about it.

[rancid cove]

Its a stupid fucking example because its not subtle at all
But like
A character whos always annoyed and perturbed
Perturabo

A name that means his role, personality or iconic part of his design

[storm jungle]

^

its like Batman

Batman is a fucking stupid name

but to us now it sounds epic because its been taken in by cultural osmosis

Literally every single Primarch name is stupid minus like 2-3 of them

[dapper gyro]

It still sounds stupid.

[storm jungle]

LIONEL JOHNSON

[fervent geode]

Alect Szylayi, Night Lord Lightning Pilot

[storm jungle]

THIS IS LITERALLY JUST A NAME

[urban spire]

perturabo was also crowleys special secret name iirc

[dapper gyro]

Batman doesn't even have bat power.

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[urban spire]

spelled it different tho

[storm jungle]

thats Man-Bat silly!

[dapper gyro]

I know.

This is why I don't like batman.

[rancid cove]

Yeah thats man-bat

[dapper gyro]

Brother is just a cosplayer.

[storm jungle]

also "El'jonson" meaning "from the forest"

what, "jonson" is forest in Calibanite bruh?

💀

[fervent geode]

It’s like Lorgar meaning Raincaller

Lor is rain and gar is caller?

At least that’s less stupid sounding

[dapper gyro]

You have a dude name is literally raven...

[fervent geode]

Corvus Corax is supposed to mean deliverer in Lycaean

I think

[dapper gyro]

As in Raven Raven.

[urban spire]

i was reading about that today, its so dumb

[dapper gyro]

You know, most names in English will soon become nickname of the penis.

Dick

Johnson

[fervent geode]

Tricky Dick

[urban spire]

i keep going "i have never given these guys a chance, i should read what their deal is" and being really disappointed

[dapper gyro]

Cock

Pecker

[rocky gale]

Wacker

Smacker

Tackle

Dongle

Dangle

[dapper gyro]

Those are normal words.

[heady rivet]

Why do you think those are names? Do you hang out with Hobbits?

[dapper gyro]

Cock used to be actual name.

[spare osprey]

The extent of my 'meaningful names' is just my Governor-Militant being called Benavidez-Royaux.

As a simple homage to one gnarly Vietnam soldier Roy Benavidez.

Don't overthink it.

[celest cedar]

what a dick

[rocky gale]

Didn't realise it was names, thought we were just listing words that mean penus

[dapper gyro]

🫠

[wary fulcrum]

Exactly! Great example tbf

So I’ve a lot of names from Warcry, most of them are just cool sounding ones but some mean one things and it’s been corrupted and 40kified

What’s the character like?

[raven stone]

Ferrus Manus

Literally Iron Hands...in Latin

[fervent geode]

What to name the Steppe legion Primarch hmmmmm

[dapper gyro]

Malleus is literally "Hammer" in latin...

[spare osprey]

Who fly in the Fist of Iron.

[wary fulcrum]

There’s are the names of my clown based Goliaths after I run out of ‘-umble’ words

(Tumbles, mumbles, fumbles etc)

[fervent geode]

Well fuck it

[raven stone]

Reminds me of a joke my friends made back at the humble beginnings of Iron Man MCU movies.

Fe = Iron.
Man = Male.

Ergo, FeMale.

[dapper gyro]

Nice try, but Fe is not iron.

Fer is.

[wary fulcrum]

Isn’t Fe the periodic table?

[raven stone]

I think it's based on Periodic Table Fe, admittedly.

[dapper gyro]

It is like you don't just say C and O.

[rancid cove]

Leading warpsmith of my warband, still dont know which chapter/legion he hails from but he's a cold methodical bastard with barely any emotions left after the amount of augments
Has a disfigured face over the battles he went
He's missing the eyelid of both eyes, right side of his mouth has no skin/lips at all, can see his bone structure and teeth, one eye is missing and part of his lower jaw is straight up mechanical

[dapper gyro]

Technically, Fe is a symbol. The correct word is Fer.

[fervent geode]

Aetius Scaevach

Idk

[wary fulcrum]

Anoptrek Skarr

(Skarr being a name given to them after all of the scars)

[rancid cove]

I overthink a lot unfortunately
Tried not to overthink my warbands name/symbol due to their themes, ended up renaming them like 5 times and now im redoing their symbol to match better what im writing about them

[fervent geode]

This guy reminds me of Aulus Scaramanca

[dapper gyro]

If you want to use symbol for words, I can make some stupid shit that make 0 sense.

[rancid cove]

Might steal Skarr

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah I do that a lot

I’ve got to go through my Warcry Warband and rename them all for tomorrows tournament at WHW after all the OG’s died in a narrative campaign last summer

Stupid flipping magic frogs

[raven stone]

Nah don't get me wrong, I did the emoji to show I didn't know the Fe symbol came from the word Fer.

[wary fulcrum]

Anoptrek comes from Panoptes

[fervent geode]

The word isn’t Fer

It’s Ferrum

Like the root of Ferrous

[dapper gyro]

👍

[spare osprey]

Isn't creating stuff a barrel of fun?
:]

[dapper gyro]

Fer is in french, a even more shortened version.

[raven stone]

Do note the personal name of the warlord does not have to link to the Warband name necessarily.

If you are going in depth, I would actually say it is better to keep the two separate, instead of the "X's Y" format

[fervent geode]

Interesting

[dapper gyro]

Ferrier = iron worker in french.

[rancid cove]

Its a lot of fun tbh, what annoys me is being unable to make up symbols myself

Gf has a friend who knows how to draw so theyre gonna make the symbol for my warband for me

[rancid cove]

I know, the name of the war-mistress is Jago Nosferrus (blood angel gene-seed) while the warband is called Warmongers

[fervent geode]

Nostraman Name

[raven stone]

Gregor Lockjaw...

[fervent geode]

Interesting

[rancid cove]

Aetius is also good will steal for later as well

[wary fulcrum]

Oh don’t forget you can just copy AoS stuff too

My AoS warbands have the Devourers, and the Eaters of Cities

[fervent geode]

Sounds very Scottish

[dapper gyro]

Scandinavian old words are also very fun.

Aside from being associated with furry in 40K.

[raven stone]

Thanks, was a stab in the dark on my part XD

[spare osprey]

Some days are tougher than others. Symbols and eyeballing stuff are also not my strong suit.
On one hand, I'm having a fat stroke over how to make my homebrew guard regiment of Spanish pike-and-shot fellers in space look good...

And then the other day I wanted to name a Vanus Assassin.
Thought about who were the smartest cookies in history were.
Boom.
Hypatia.

[rancid cove]

I think it sounds cool
Nosferrus because heh she's a vampire so its Nosferatu but different and Jago because I had no better first name to fit it

[wary fulcrum]

Most wouldn’t even notice, Fenrisian is more like power ballad than Scandinavian

The second you start throwing accents out it all goes a bit squiff

[fervent geode]

Don’t get me wrong it’s defo cool

Nosferrus is unique

But Jago is very Nostraman is all

There’s like three NL Captains named Jago

But like it’s a cool name for ur leader

[rancid cove]

Hmmm...
My main problem is writing about their culture and organisation
They're a big ass warband, almost legion-proxy and have a very cohesive and pretty consistent organization of companies, ranking soldiers and even outside of military organization they have cults spread among them since theyre undivided

[rancid cove]

Yeah I got it from Sevatar which was a big inspo for the creation of Nosferrus

[fervent geode]

Noiceee

[fervent geode]

If you wanna write a almost legion proxy you can take inspo from 30k

[raven stone]

Sounds like they should be rooted from Iron Warriors or Word Bearers.

Both are Traitor Legions that are distinctly said to still be organised legions

And Chaos Undivided

[fervent geode]

Other Legions can still have legion proxies

Except maybe AL

Also

Iron Warriors aren’t organised anymore

The Grand Companies mainly fuck around

Since M34

[raven stone]

Well I mean Perty is getting off his backside, so...

[fervent geode]

Oh yeah

That’ll get many of them back together

[rancid cove]

They're not a legion strict warband, but the majority are Iron Warriors gene-seed

They got founded right after the end of the Heresy from soldiers from all sorts of legion coming together with the "we dont need to pillage and raid or run, we gave to conquer, colonize, enslave"
Iron Warriors (who formed up the majority of the warband) decided it wasnt enough and that they lacked proper discipline. Took control and has molded them into "proper warriors" ever since

[fervent geode]

Like how a lot of EC congregate around Fulgrim

[spare osprey]

Well, you're farther along than I am.
Culture hard.
People complicated.

[fervent geode]

It’s like how Magnus managed to mostly unite the Ksons

After they were split for 10k years lol

The ones who never splintered would be the WB and DG

[rancid cove]

I just made a very superficial description in how theyre so mixed their culture is very spread around but they mostly think humanity was made to rule the stars but the Emperor was weak because he wasnt brave enough to embrace the nature of mankind (chaos)
They will go to any length necessary to conquer shit to the point of using xenos as slaves and mortals in high ranking positions if it means they do their job properly

[fervent geode]

Except for the I Great Company under Calas Typhon ig

[rancid cove]

Im using a lot of shit from 30k yeah, taking a look at the lexicanum and the black books constantly lmao

[fervent geode]

Real af

[rancid cove]

But since they also absorbed some chapters who are more recent and had the indoctrination of the codex they also use some "loyalist" strategies

[raven stone]

Could be a "Shattered Legion" force (during HH the communications were so fucked that on both sides, disparate understeength groups came together to form a, well, Legion company/battalion proxy)

I could see your group being a two way mashup of Iron Warriors/Word Bearers. Word Bearers were probably OK with the discipline part up to a point (because religion is just another form of doctrine drilling)

Not that "the rules" should limit you, but going by the Shattered Legion rules there could be a third element. Maybe a Traitor element of Horus aligned Ultramarines/Fists/Iron Hands?

[fervent geode]

Oh yeah I did something similar with my warband

NL based but they’ve “adopted” others into their warband (Astral Claws, Flame Falcons, Wolf Brothers, Avenging Sons, Sons of Horus), these are now also counted as NL but the legion has adapted codex tactics after an Avenging Son Captain was onboarded

[rancid cove]

They accept anyone who is willing to get into their culture
Majority of them are Iron Warriros, Sons of Horus and a little Word Bearer but they also have Blood Angels and even some Dark Angels fallen
There's even a little company formed of only Night Lords
Theyre very mixed

[rancid cove]

Yeah pretty much mine as well
They do anything that is logical or more likely to get them to success
Despite the mass hatred for psykers they will use them sometimes but theyre often executed upon finish the assigned task

Their culture makes them diehard psyker haters

[fervent geode]

Cool dudes

Except mine don’t have psyker hatred

[rancid cove]

Brb

[fervent geode]

Aight boss

[celest cedar]

ay wokers, explain to me wtf is a transfem boymoder

[fervent geode]

They had a Kson in the warband at some point

[rancid cove]

I made them have it to make them less inclined to have EVERYTHING
As a homebrew it would be too much I think so they gotta lack at least in something

[fervent geode]

He fucking died

[rancid cove]

So theyre not heavy users of daemons and psychic shit

[fervent geode]

Oooh I see I see, mine are heavy on the Daemon shit coz they believe in “using everything”

Their weakness is that they get fucked for overconfidence every once in a while

[raven stone]

OK, whilst it is good that they welcome everyone in practice, thematically I would suggest identifying 2-3 "core legion cultures" that formed them during the HH era Shattered Legions

It will help solidify their identity, and thus warband name, more

[fervent geode]

Or you could go all in on IW

But show signs of other legions/ chapters marines being integrated and how it’s changed the Grand Company

I think your going thataway but I’m not sure so I can’t assume

[languid meadow]

we've talked about this before but

https://youtu.be/Y2CTbu-nVzM?si=gU1-vyhb4524a6R5 new trailer

honestly the only models that look weird are the zerg idk

but terrans and protoss are pre good

[rancid cove]

My old picks for this was Iron Warriors, Sons of Horus and maybe Dark Angels/Night Lords tbh

[solid horizon]

tbh most warpsmiths as depicted by models and artwork tend to have a practically fully implant body

like both eyes are lenses, mouth is a grille and the rear of their head is all cables

[quiet orchid]

[fervent geode]

Not necessarily

Partial implants sure

[celest dome]

Haven't looked at the video, but imagine if GW sued them (as Tyr did get some heavy design changes after Starcraft released)

[rancid cove]

The Warmongers do have some small companies/cults that will engage in use of daemons but overall its frowned upon the majority. There's a whole company made for the possessed and warp mutated soldiers solely because they're seen as "unnecessary evil" too powerful not to use but considered dangerous and too unreliable/unpredictable
the use of psykers and daemons is a last resort, but they still engage in the use of daemon-engines

[solid horizon]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/de4d25dd1cf2f032d790404431284a9f/tumblr_o68ysfyBOG1sl21koo1_540.gif

[rancid cove]

Sorryyy

[languid meadow]

Ohh maybe that's why I didn't fuck with the zerg too much them being basically one colour irks me

[solid horizon]

dude looks like that guy from men in black

[fervent geode]

Mine more or less use them as a “Librarius” so Daemonology is just a new discipline, and yeah they use Daemon Engines too, but I can see why yours would be a little unsure on the possessed and whatnot

[rancid cove]

Yuh its because of their past with psykers

During their formation the 3 most powerful lieutenants were the warpsmith, leading apothecary and a librarian
Librarian went rouge and wanted the power to himself, wielded the possessed and mutated to war against the rest of the warband. He was a fuck to deal with, raised the dead using daemons and shit but once he got killed the warband now hates/"fears" psykers

[solid horizon]

man why is it pouring like on kamino outside
now I have the primer can for my minis the weather says no

[rancid cove]

Theyre a last resort and usually kept in check/executed

[solid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[fervent geode]

Oooh yeah that makes sense then

[rancid cove]

Yeah

The use of daemons is only like, small company shit or among the cults spread around them
They dont frown at worship but just frown fucky rituals

Thats why the possessed/mutated are often called "Wartorn", like the "broken" of the band and kept at bay while the rest is more co-operative of each other

[fervent geode]

I see I see

Are they the insane type? (The possessed I mean)

[rancid cove]

It depends, not all of them are and they are also "categorized" in a more loose/informal way
The insane ones are called Beasts, the more sane ones are referred as just "The Scarred"

[spare osprey]

I just realized that Krieg bodies might serve me infinitely better than Cadian bodies for my homebrew.

[rancid cove]

The damn cloners

[raven stone]

@rancid cove Given the modus operandi and their thoughts so far, I would actually suggest they are rooted from a Traitor Iron Warriors/Word Bearers/Horus! Ultramarines combined force with Iron Warriors as majority.

The librarian that went power crazy is ofc the Word Bearer.

This also thematically fits in the following sense:

(1) Warmongers uses possessed and Cultists, which is a very Word Bearers thing (the fact that the Cultists are potentially more than cannon fodder can root back to the Horus! Ultramatines instead)

(2) Warmongers are actually organized, a trait shared by the three legions (albeit in slightly different variants)

(3) Ultras are empire builders in their blood via Guilliman

[fervent geode]

Hmm I see is we

Actually if you didn’t want UM

[spare osprey]

I just gotta saw off the tubes, slap on some funny hat-wearing heads and boom.
Spanish Pikemen in space.

Maybe.

[fervent geode]

WB are also Empire Builders

[raven stone]

TBF, yes, you can just go duo IW/WB

[rocky gale]

I quite like these rules

[raven stone]

It's just the Ultras are there in case the Cultists are more than fodder feed

And actually given true military training

[rancid cove]

Yeah I guess it fits
Might make it IW/SoH/WB being the major three legions to form them up
And the smaller ones being the DA/maybe BA (stolen geneseed) and UM

[raven stone]

Also a good take

Again, if your Cultists are not a fully trained force, then anything goes

[solid horizon]

what about corrupted BR remnants

WB are like

[raven stone]

But if they are trained, it needs to be accounted for, as most Traitor Legions don't really give toi much of a shit about them

[solid horizon]

BR's chaos nemesis

[rancid cove]

The cults are not made up of only mortal cultists, theres also astartes cults like the raptor cults

[raven stone]

Oh that looks neat!

[fervent geode]

Technically they fight AL more

[rancid cove]

The warband isnt really responsible for that part
What they manage from the mortal crew is usually what theyre assigned to and what orders, organization and training is more of a them problem

[solid horizon]

practically both equally tbh

[fervent geode]

Sort of ig yeah

[rancid cove]

What they do care about is the mechanicum allies, those they will go to lengthy processes of diplomacy to gain their trust so their partnership is long lasting

[raven stone]

Yea ok if the mortals are more "left to their own devices" IW/SoH/WB definitely works fine as the big core identities

[solid horizon]

I finally started playing soulstorm, dang the chaos lord alpharius helmet is funky looking lol

bionicle ahh guy

[rancid cove]

I'll make it like this

Greater cultural impact: IW/SoH/WB
Smaller cultural impact: NL/Fallen DA/BA
Fractured cultural impact: UM/DG

[raven stone]

...reading them again, also very thematic for GSC to steal as Guerilla fighters. Though admittedly they then lose out on Orders.

[rancid cove]

The bionicle feeling comes from how his head is shaped
Its.... its very vertical and theres no width, hes vertically looong

Like an eldar head

[raven stone]

On other news, Marine slop.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xiczsalv/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-space-marines/

[rancid cove]

10 trillion space marine detachments

https://klipy.com/gifs/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-funny--k01KQQENMHH42H024AXHMRYBYBZ

[raven stone]

No mention of the next faction getting detachment previews, so place your bets

[solid horizon]

I will tell my kids this was alpharius

according to dawn of war

[solid horizon]

nah every faction is getting 2 new detachments

though by proportion spess marines do get more since they are a lot more fractured than other factions

[rancid cove]

This helped a lot because I was thinking of making the 3rd lieutenant of the "Unholy Trinity" a dark chaplain of sorts that leads/disciplines/manages the possessed/mutated of the band
So he'd be a WB Apostle

[raven stone]

GW actually committed to that number in advance, so yea. Marine favouritism is due to the very split nature of all the Chapters

[solid horizon]

^

[raven stone]

Both a WB Dark Apostle or Master of Posession would fit the bill (final choice yours)

[solid horizon]

everyone has anti-marines nowadays so who cares what the emperor's power rangers get

[rancid cove]

Starting to note down shit now, like random ideas I have and criticism
Hopefully this helps
And hopefully I don't start forgetting the shit I had stored in my head

[solid horizon]

remember not to overthink stuff

[rancid cove]

Overthinking is what got me to finally settle on a concept I enjoy
The warband has been through so many big changes due to my overthinking that initial project vs "final" project are two separate warbands

Basically

[solid horizon]

overthinking also causes paralysis of analysis be careful 👍🏻

[rancid cove]

First idea was NL warband filled with chaos undivided chuds
Final project is proxy-legion made of various companies from other legions and chapters that are empire builders and conquerors

[rancid cove]

True true

[ripe forum]

Hello my fellow hammerheads

[rancid cove]

I might be getting it switched with the WB but- didn't the SoH also think possession was like, "peak level power"? Basically sharing the ideals of the WB that use of daemons were the biggest triumph-card they had

This might be a late heresy thing

[fervent geode]

The SoH did it much later into the heresy

And a lot of them viewed these possessed as disgusting

Like the Luperci who were all slaughtered by the Justaerin and Castulans

The SoH weren’t really into it fully until the Legion Wars (and even then a lot still hated it)

[rancid cove]

I see

[raven stone]

Hello

[ripe forum]

Hello

[spare osprey]

What are like, the three main bases a guard infantry regiment should cover? I'm drawing a blank here.
I imagine anti-infantry's one. Lasguns and the like.
Anti-armor if that's the right word for it. Plasma guns?

Spitball me ideas here, my smarter friends.

[storm jungle]

There isnt really one

their job is to kill

its why Regiment's are so diverse and sometimes one-purpose'd

Its left extremely open-ended so that you can homebrew regiments to whatever flavor you like really

[rose thorn]

I’m sorry HOW MANY detachemnts is space marines getting in 11th

7???

[spare osprey]

I getcha. Just trying to figure out what to fill my actual army of plastic shits I suppose.
Tercios historically had three different kinds of weapons in their formations to have synergy with the other two. Wondering if I can translate that into what I can kitbash.

[rose thorn]

Dog each faction is suppose to get like 4 lmao

[storm jungle]

Tercios?

[rose thorn]

Jesus Christ

[heady rivet]

Warhammer fantasy Empire State Troops but real

[rancid cove]

10 Trillion Space Marine detachments

[spare osprey]

My bad.
The Spanish Tercios.
An incredibly effective pike-and-shot infantry of Spain.
Literally translates to a bundle of threes if I read correctly.

[rancid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/mcgonagall-clapping-10points-for-gryffindor-gif-10684186

[heady rivet]

One third pike, one third handgun, one third swords

[spare osprey]

Rule of three is in my brain I tell ya'.

[ripe forum]

Which regiment do you think is the best at stabbing people

[storm jungle]

🔇

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Brontian_Longknives

[heady rivet]

I'm literally correct

[storm jungle]

🔇

[rancid cove]

Any that is based on british people

https://tenor.com/view/stab-stabbing-knife-attack-watermelon-gif-7551454710566979568

[solid horizon]

whatever is easiest for me to nom nom

[spare osprey]

-# Fatty!

[rancid cove]

Tyranid headass

[rose thorn]

My mom saw someone stabbed to death infront of her once and it was basically like this

[solid horizon]

my glut of souls is never satisfied

my debt to the soulforge is too heavy

[rose thorn]

Worse, it’s based off colonists

[solid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/zulu-dance-night-boat-to-cairo-gif-19990828

[storm jungle]

Tbh

theres a reason we have never seen them since

[heady rivet]

Too cool for 40k

[storm jungle]

especially since their first box was literally Rorke's Drift but replace africans with tribal orks

[heady rivet]

Clearly

[solid horizon]

clearly

[storm jungle]

which is omega-yikes

[rose thorn]

Too busy pillaging space India for space tea and space opium

[storm jungle]

lol

[rose thorn]

[storm jungle]

White People strike again

[solid horizon]

oh no my space colonist power fantasy has space colonists in it

[rancid cove]

Let me guess, that's where they also tried to eat the orks to see what it tastes like

[spare osprey]

We should strike white people.

[storm jungle]

"oh no maybe we shouldnt employ literal genocidal rapist colonials in a toy game"

literally how do you guys always miss these points lol

[solid horizon]

cant have pith helmets anymore because of WOKE

[rose thorn]

AOS btw

[rancid cove]

It was funny the first time

[forest orbit]

LMAO

True tho

[rancid cove]

Most efficient way to do it

You dont need that much buildup to stab someone

Any slight push cuts deep

[storm jungle]

Yeah idk why people dont understand why GW cuts some of this shit out lol

same as "why is representation so important, who cares"

[rose thorn]

What the fuck in aos wears thick leather gloves

[storm jungle]

any medial person

YOU

FUCKING