40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

yeah

he tends to troll occasionally

[summer mural]

I thought it was one of the homeless writers

[opaque coyote]

Wait was it growled or roared

Actually it's roared

[rancid cove]

Because it was the biggest ork empire ever, just a random lore event for the setting to let us know what Imperium was doing

[crystal forum]

smaller writers would never write something that stupid

[storm jungle]

the big teleporter was just invented for the lore for this new campaign

[rancid cove]

Same shit with the prime orks for the war of beast

[storm jungle]

its based on the shokk-attack gun

which has been around for like 30 years lol

[summer mural]

we need the big orks back

[urban spire]

@storm jungle is this real

[jade holly]

This counts as a new FTL method for them right?

[opaque coyote]

I still wish the fucking gigantic magnet weapon reappeared

[storm jungle]

Yeah more or less

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

or like a slingshot

[crystal forum]

paulie feminist

[storm jungle]

Its true

Mr Walnuts is a protector of women

[urban spire]

sick

[crystal forum]

he might be racist

but hating women is too far

[vagrant fox]

he's italian how can he be racist

[crystal forum]

true, the real oppressed minority

[opaque coyote]

Like this is simply just peak

[vagrant fox]

italian american, even

the true oppressed

[crystal forum]

doctor doofenshmirtz type object

the magnetinator

[jade holly]

Just saw this while scrolling through YouTube

[summer mural]

awww hell no, you cant just make an entry that edgy

he looks like sauron but red

[crystal forum]

why has that horseshoe magnet become the iconic look of magnets when i've literally never seen one in real life

[opaque coyote]

Yup.

Literally attracts enemy aircraft and then sent crashing into whatever direction the Orks desire by turning the magnet.

The Lifta-Droppa is the modern version of it. Using tractor beams and all that...

Boring

[vagrant fox]

we had them at my school

[crystal forum]

in science class?

[vagrant fox]

yea

[crystal forum]

i meant outside of science class

[opaque coyote]

Seen them in school

[crystal forum]

like wtf are they used for

i dont think ive even seen one in a science class

[opaque coyote]

Mainly for science.

It has both the north and south poles in the same place

[vagrant fox]

It's something to with the shape helping make the magnetic field stronger

[opaque coyote]

Rendered obsolete in use

[vagrant fox]

but it's kind of obsolete now

[opaque coyote]

But still a good teaching tool

To represent how magnets work

[crystal forum]

what if they activate it pointing at a hive spire

does it just become a projectile

[opaque coyote]

Since the Hive spire is probably mostly made out of stone like concrete

It just wouldn't move

[crystal forum]

i thought they were plasteel

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/esmeralda-hontd-justice-gif-6107199

[opaque coyote]

Ferrocrete

[crystal forum]

lord help you if you have implants with iron in them

[opaque coyote]

Some type of reinforced concrete

[crystal forum]

reinforced concrete has steel rebar!

[summer mural]

do aeldar fight each other

[storm jungle]

not really no

[crystal forum]

ofc

every faction fights eachother sometimes

[storm jungle]

only dark eldar outright attack other eldar

but its rare

unless you're stupid as shit

[summer mural]

nah im talking about the helves

[storm jungle]

Nope

never

its not how they work as a faction

[crystal forum]

grok is this true

[summer mural]

so is it like a terrible idea if they just get the craftworlds to sail together

[storm jungle]

any excuse you make also will sound really stupid because eldar consider killing their own the most heinous thing imaginable

[storm jungle]

that wouldnt really happen unless you do lots of talk-jitsu

every craftworld is its own nation

this is like saying "lets just unite america and china"

[vagrant fox]

It's pretty rare but it can happen

[crystal forum]

the century of... unity?

[storm jungle]

some kind of red sun... in teh sky

[vagrant fox]

Biel-Tan the most based of all the craftworlds fucked up some lesser craftworld I forget the name of

[summer mural]

lol

[crystal forum]

good ending unlocked

[summer mural]

40k game, you play as an outcast ranger, and your job is put max points into charisma and unite all the craftworlds

[vagrant fox]

Craftworld Aon’tai was it

Destroyed by Biel-Tan for being cringe

[storm jungle]

Who*

[opaque coyote]

"Hello cousin~"

"By Asruyan please fucking help me."

[storm jungle]

[summer mural]

the trade off is you have to assassinate eldrad somewhere along the way for random gameplay reasons

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah

basically when you make craftworlds fight on tabletop any reason will sound stupid

we literally have zero examples of craftworld eldar killing each other minus like 2 examples

(one being DoW which is shit)

[crystal forum]

you could use the good old fog of war excuse

[summer mural]

I guess you can false flag them somehow, like they fight each other by mistake

someone tricks them into it

[storm jungle]

Seers

[crystal forum]

darn

[storm jungle]

They arent that stupid

eldar arent orks

lol

[vagrant fox]

`It is rare for the craftworlds to fight amongst themselves, but there are some instances where warhosts of opposing worldships have come to blows. It is not so difficult to imagine the causes; the Asuryani can be haughty and proud, having their own traditions while being intolerant of others.

Such battles are quickly resolved and casualties are few, for each Asuryani is well aware their race stands on the precipice of extinction, and the sight of their dead kin often brings even the most aggrieved back to their senses. Some of these conflicts, however, have lasting consequences–most notably the breaking of Craftworld Aon’tai during the Era of Tears by the Asuryani of Biel-Tan.`

That's all I can think of, it's pretty rare

[opaque coyote]

Seers would prevent that

[storm jungle]

Eldar would literally skein the future and see you are lying

[crystal forum]

what if i think im telling the truth myself

[storm jungle]

then you are banned

[crystal forum]

aw

[rancid cove]

Imagine not having to fight each other for the slightest disagreement like every other fucking faction under the sun

[opaque coyote]

Besides Craftworlds generally just want to be left alone.

Minus Biel-Tan

[storm jungle]

the only faction that can achieve socialism in 40k is literal aliens

says a lot honestly

[vagrant fox]

Biel-Tan are just based and cool, it's not their fault

[summer mural]

cant wait for vect in the 40k endtimes to become grand king of all eldar and marry eldrad

[storm jungle]

yaoi 👎

[crystal forum]

what happens when tau interact with the eldar

[storm jungle]

They laugh at the tau

and leave

LOL

[vagrant fox]

submit to our greater good
gets laughed at

[storm jungle]

Tau literally have nothing to offer Eldar jokes aside

[summer mural]

" bro you're like 5 years old."

[vagrant fox]

If some chimp came up to me demanding subservience I'd laugh too

[storm jungle]

so its like entirely pointless

^

literally the perfect example

[crystal forum]

what about friendship :)

[storm jungle]

Then it would depend on whats needed friendship for, it would be temporary

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disappointed-disgusting-disgusted-looking-gif-6561690286467128067

[storm jungle]

like a pact to drive out imperials etc

[opaque coyote]

"THE GLORY OF THE ELDAR EMPIRE MUST BE REGAINED"

"Don't mind him. He's from Biel-Tan."

"THE MON'KEIGH WILL BURN IN FIRE! AND WE SHALL RISE ONCE AGAIN!"

"Just don't mention She Who Thirsts around him and you'll be just fine. Touchy topic."

[rancid cove]

Humans: hey, that idea is dumb
Human 2: nuh uh!

The Great War of the faction ensues, bigger than the Heresy

Ork: hey, i like that chompa, give!
Ork 2: nuh uh

The bloodiest Ork brawl ever

Eldar: you are stupid
Eldar 2: fuck you

100 years diplomatic discourse

This is why Eldars are so boring

[crystal forum]

what do votaan think of eldar

[storm jungle]

*Eldar

also the yarent boring

[summer mural]

do the emperors children have a particular hankering for hunting eldar

[storm jungle]

you just dont like them as a faction

average foid

[storm jungle]

Depends from League to League

[vagrant fox]

Good for trading with sometimes

[storm jungle]

Leagues see anyone as "can we make money from this"

also what Sigsen said yeah

they'll openly trade with eldar

[crystal forum]

truly the best faction

[opaque coyote]

This is why the Dark Eldar are much better.

They don't even need any wrong against them. They'll just torture the other party regardless.

[vagrant fox]

Eldar at least tend to be sensible, mostly

[summer mural]

votann be like " LETS MINE THAT CRAFTWORLD!"

[storm jungle]

Then get killed

instantly

[crystal forum]

"even worse, we're business men"

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

fuck sakes

[rancid cove]

Capitalism if it was cool

[summer mural]

votann probably gonna mine a necron tomb world and not notice all the necrons

[opaque coyote]

I KnOW WHErE YOuR FAMILyy LiVeS

[crystal forum]

votann literally harvest minerals from nid ships

i shit you not

they are so fucking hardcore

[storm jungle]

ıM gOnNA Grİnd yOu To DuSt And UsE yOU tO pAvE mY dRiveWaY

[flat nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-40k-warhammer-40k-yrliet-mon-keigh-gif-13015049975340156721

[vagrant fox]

They'll mine anything if they can get away with it

[summer mural]

well they essentially upgraded deep rock galactic to deep rock universe

[storm jungle]

they enjoy miners a lot its true

[rancid cove]

Not special
Iron Warriors use them to transport titans

[vagrant fox]

One Million Years is a really funny short story, they board a Necron ship inside of a star because they think they can get away with it

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-one-darkwing-miners-gif-18197924311683881973

[storm jungle]

[summer mural]

they probably invented the robots mining crypto

[rocky gale]

How about they mine their own business

[storm jungle]

i love how the votann also go

"Okay how about a truce"

"No"

shoots him

[vagrant fox]

sensible

[flat nimbus]

that’s just what they call their Necron-drilling rigs

[opaque coyote]

Bitch what do you think the Leagues of Votann do in their free time

[vagrant fox]

That's what they get for killing the only cool Necron

[opaque coyote]

[summer mural]

🍻

all stunties are drunks

[crystal forum]

votann be trading stocks on their downtime

[storm jungle]

Wrong, the Kin would also help the robots in mining crypto

[summer mural]

and greedy gold hoarders

[storm jungle]

they actually do btw

[opaque coyote]

Drunk stock trading

[vagrant fox]

yea if it's profitable

[opaque coyote]

The best type of stock trading

[storm jungle]

post-missions they literally turn to wallstreet folk

and seperate sales

and who gets what share

its so funny

[crystal forum]

god i love them so much

[storm jungle]

Same

[rocky gale]

Their rules are kinda dumb though

[rancid cove]

Capitalism if it wasnt dystopian

[crystal forum]

the dumb rules are what makes it fun

[summer mural]

the nids devour everyone

Meanwhile the votann " You owe me ten bucks!"

[opaque coyote]

Makes me wonder if the Leagues of Votann have to deal with the classic stuff like MLMs and other types of scams.

Would it be considered severely offensive or would anybody falling to it just be considered idiots winning the Darwin award?

[storm jungle]

its prob because they actually do everything "equally" which is funny

Kin dont really exploit each other

[flat nimbus]

boardroom full of Kin smoking loh-sticks and contemplating how much they’d make mining the Golden Throne

[storm jungle]

they make deals

[storm jungle]

Latter

[flat nimbus]

A deal is a deal is a deal, but only among Kin

[crystal forum]

the entire galaxy could be destroyed and votann would just go back to the core to chill and wait it out

[solid horizon]

kill the kin

[opaque coyote]

kin the kill

[rancid cove]

Equalitarian work? In my fascist setting? I think not!

[flat nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/rule-211-employees-are-the-rungs-on-the-ladder-of-success-dont-hesita-te-to-step-on-them-star-trek-gif-9972605735144516309

[summer mural]

ironkin are awesome leave them alone

[storm jungle]

Dont forget they also literally treat Ironkin robots as normal dwarves which is very wholesome

[summer mural]

kill the organic dorf scumbags instead

[crystal forum]

steeljacks

[rocky gale]

Me when I deploy my all vehicle list Vs Votann forgetting that all their guns are S19, -5AP, Anti-vehicle 2+ with devastating wounds and Sustained hits 3.

[crystal forum]

oh you meant game rules

[solid horizon]

wait till I possess their clankfriends

[summer mural]

who's the top dog votann dorf

[solid horizon]

real

[rancid cove]

Where is the slaving, the child labour, the suffering of the innocent? Urgh, this isn't 40k!!! This is woke slop!

[solid horizon]

one million attacks on top of that

[summer mural]

and does he have guns in his moustache

[opaque coyote]

Have there ever been situations where one Kin cheats another one out of a deal? How grave of an offense would that be?

[storm jungle]

tbh i like how Kin are an mostly amazing society then the grimdark comes when its time for the matter of how they treat anyone that isnt Kin lmao

destroy entire planet with continental mining rigs and kill everyone

WHOOPS

[opaque coyote]

Racism brings everyone together

[storm jungle]

CHA-CHING

[opaque coyote]

Money also does as well

[flat nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/no-quarter-gif-24082251

[rocky gale]

And surely since they're so good at shooting they're weak in melee? Right? Right?

[solid horizon]

no happybright society in my grimdark mess !

[crystal forum]

they dont need no pussy ass emperor to justify crimes against humanity

[storm jungle]

Its heated but mostly let go because what are you gonna do shoot them in the back for being bested? They are petty but they arent as far as to kill each other unless its super bad

[opaque coyote]

You mean they respond reasonably?

...

[storm jungle]

Depends.

[solid horizon]

votanns come across as incredibly unbalanced ngl

[storm jungle]

They might crash out but it will rarely lead to violence

[rancid cove]

Good ol space racism.

[opaque coyote]

In MY 40K?

[solid horizon]

I had quite a bad time against them

[vagrant fox]

I don't know them that well, what's the one where they show up to buy mining rights, get denied, then just take it and claim everything belongs to the Votann

[storm jungle]

I prefer to call it KKKapitalism

(literally this time)

[rancid cove]

Here it comes the tabletop cuck, lap it up everybody

[flat nimbus]

if you can’t figure out a reason two factions would fight, or fight with themselves, you’re not 40k’ing hard enough

[storm jungle]

I think its a 10th edition codex excerpt

[crystal forum]

i wanna see those pirate mercenary orks interact with votaan

[opaque coyote]

...tableslop

[rose thorn]

THEY ADDED WATER GUISERS TO MINECRAFT

RAGHHHH

[vagrant fox]

sounds right, I really should get my hands on a copy

[solid horizon]

silence self insert fanfic nerd

[summer mural]

speaking of unbalanced

[storm jungle]

man

[vagrant fox]

b-but we live here
ok lol we're gonna mine it anyways

[storm jungle]

Clark is CAKED UP

[rancid cove]

KKKapitalism is so fvking based

[rose thorn]

Oh and tnt sulfur cubes

[storm jungle]

Destroys your entire world for money

[rancid cove]

-the entirety of 40k

[flat nimbus]

abs Clark is such a cute li’l twink

[storm jungle]

you said it not me 😭

(he is tho)

[crystal forum]

votaan pissed at abaddon for destroying cadia before stripping it for its minerals

[storm jungle]

LMAO

"waste of good ores"

🥀

[rancid cove]

He is not wrong tho

[crystal forum]

i wonder how many votaan go to the cadian gate just to mine some chunks

[vagrant fox]

Wasted a valuable blackstone fortress like that

[opaque coyote]

"OIZ YOU GIVEZ US SHOOTAS."

"Got anything to trade?"

"UHH... TRADE?? WAZ JUST GONNA FIGHTZ YA."

"Well, firstly you have to understand the principles of economics. The first thi-"

"MAYBE WE SHOULD'VE JUST ATTACKED THE NON-SHORT HUMIEZ INSTEAD."

[storm jungle]

we ran a RPG game for it once

[jade holly]

“That was our planet to raid and siphon smh”

[storm jungle]

a rock we were mining had cadian refugees on it

uhhhh

whoops

[crystal forum]

extra lubrication for the rock crushers

[opaque coyote]

Ah yes.

Exactly like Cadia

They feel right at home

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-santa-gun-shooting-girl-gif-4238012825966907041

[storm jungle]

[summer mural]

so far I like absolute superman more than ww, supe is like a ticking time bomb so far

[storm jungle]

Absolute Supe is fun

also helps that Ras Al Ghul is just Palantir

THE LEAGUE OF SHAREHOLDERS 🔥

[summer mural]

next im gonna read green lantern

[opaque coyote]

I can't believe I would ever say this.

But poor Lex Luthor (specifically the Absolute version)

[summer mural]

because i never got into the lore of the green lantern

apart from his ridiculous army of peacekeepers who dont get around to anything

[rancid cove]

More 10 trillions into survellaince systems to keep the minorities in check

[storm jungle]

his company literally has orbital drones that will make your entire farmlands/crops have draught if you dont sell your land to him

totally not realistic

no company would ever do this

[opaque coyote]

"Well, you see, I have a nice family, a nice house, and a good lif-"

"BORRRINNNGG WHY HAVEN'T YOU MADE A BABY WITH A SUPERPOWERED MAN YET?"

"...what?"

"WHATEVER, SOME MURDERING OF YOUR FAMILY WILL FIX THAT."

[summer mural]

also whats the consensus supposed to be on whos the most popular green lantern

[storm jungle]

oof

thats complicated

its between like

[opaque coyote]

YES.

[jade holly]

Mister Torgue High Five Flexington is that you?

[storm jungle]

John Stewart, Hal Jordan and Guy

im more of a Guy fan myself

[crystal forum]

is green lantern based on any real life mythology

[storm jungle]

hes a cunt with a heart of gold

[summer mural]

stewart is the justice league guy right

[rancid cove]

Biblical levels of drama

"Wont sell your land for me? Woe, the plagues be upon yer crops"

[summer mural]

from the animated show

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/nathan-fillion-superman-middle-finger-finger-green-lantern-gif-17596216700593022139

[opaque coyote]

Yeah.

He's black™.

[summer mural]

and hes supposed to be really good at constructs because hes an engineer

[storm jungle]

norse myth the uhh The Ring of the Nibelung

[opaque coyote]

Military guy also

[storm jungle]

and the sight of a trainman’s green railway lantern, combining these to create a hero with a magical ring.

[crystal forum]

it felt too original to be made up

[storm jungle]

thats it basically

[summer mural]

plus he kinda looks older than hal

[opaque coyote]

Personally my favorite is Kyle Rayner.

So of course my life is pain.

[jade holly]

Hal Jordan is Air Force

[summer mural]

the main thing I liked about lantern is he has a decent gallery of villains , since you can just line up the colors and give them all an evil ring

[crystal forum]

wheres the pink lantern

and is he gay

[opaque coyote]

Mainly because he actually creates creative constructs

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-spongebob-squarepants-dreams-gif-7119244863961096810

[opaque coyote]

Which is why he's never fucking animated

[crystal forum]

wait pink latern is just eve from invincible

[summer mural]

nah

WAIT

[crystal forum]

YES

[opaque coyote]

Because his entire thing is how he creates the most detailed and creative constructs

[summer mural]

nah

[crystal forum]

aw

[summer mural]

well she kinda is

[storm jungle]

nah it isnt

Sapphires are not Eve

JAY IS BEING GAY AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

[crystal forum]

smh

[jade holly]

I’m an Orange Lantern fan myself

[crystal forum]

ultraviolet lantern

[opaque coyote]

They're called the Star Sapphire Corps

[jade holly]

What’s mine is mine is mine and mine, mine and mine, not yours

[crystal forum]

why must the lanterns be restricted to visible spectrum

[summer mural]

i mean red lantern is pretty scary dude

[crystal forum]

gamma ray lantern

i use the power of a fucking galaxy

[jade holly]

They’re not

[jade holly]

The Ultraviolet lantern corps exists

[summer mural]

I think his ring revolves around...RAGE

[crystal forum]

whats they're gimmick

[opaque coyote]

Red Lanterns are probably my favorites.

I like Khorne and my favorite lantern are the red ones. And yet do you wanna know what my favorite color is?

Blue

[summer mural]

red lantern is fine

[crystal forum]

red being associated with anger? impossible

[jade holly]

Stuff like shame, guilt and hatred from what I’m seeing

[summer mural]

he gets to be the hulk with lantern constructs

[jade holly]

Personal repressed emotions

[opaque coyote]

Mostly the want for revenge and justice

For red

[crystal forum]

do they have the magical power of skin cancer

[summer mural]

no thats deadpool

[crystal forum]

deadpol has the omnicancer

[opaque coyote]

No

Just the magical power of vomiting blood

[crystal forum]

guy is a cancer

[summer mural]

guy gardner

[jade holly]

Jay’s talking about the UV corps

[summer mural]

idc about guy, but he was cool in the gunn movie, so now I like him

[opaque coyote]

Oh

[crystal forum]

remember kids, wear your sunscreen!

[opaque coyote]

There's way too many fucking corps istg

[flat nimbus]

Guy is the perfect Lantern and I’ll take no disagreements

[opaque coyote]

Can't believe they're doing world building

[jade holly]

Wait until Jay learns about the black and white lanterns

[opaque coyote]

In my COMICSLOP

[summer mural]

also each corps hass a huge amount of members, they arent small organizations

[flat nimbus]

I mean, not really?

[jade holly]

Like the one Green Lantern that’s literally just a planet

[crystal forum]

is the white lantern life and the black one death

[opaque coyote]

"I love fucking dead bodies!"

Gets a ring that turns people into zombies

[flat nimbus]

The Green are the biggest

Every other is a handful, usually

Orange is just Larfleeze

[jade holly]

Right on the nose

[crystal forum]

damn it really takes a phd to figure this stuff out

[opaque coyote]

Yellow originally was just Sinestro but he eventually made his own corps

[summer mural]

is there a lantern thats supposed to actually be the no1 guy in the corps in terms of skill but its not the green lantern hero

[jade holly]

Orange is Larfleez and an army of literally everyone he has killed

[flat nimbus]

I mean… Sinestro?

[summer mural]

well hes yellow

[crystal forum]

by star wars logic it should be purple

[jade holly]

Atrocitus?

[summer mural]

atrocitus is now red, I mean existing green lantern

[jade holly]

Who do you mean by the green lantern hero

[flat nimbus]

yeah, just, when he was/returns to Green

[summer mural]

the main character

[jade holly]

They’re all green lantern heroes in the Green Lanterns

[jade holly]

WHICH ONE

[summer mural]

hal/john etc

[jade holly]

[storm jungle]

amazing new enemy

shat my pants

[opaque coyote]

He was a green lantern

[opaque coyote]

Hal is the most skilled I think

Original I know

[summer mural]

also do those oogway looking loser council still run the entire green lantern corps

[opaque coyote]

Yea

[jade holly]

Kyle Rainer is the most boring cause he’s broken

Holy typo

[flat nimbus]

fuck off Kyle rules

[jade holly]

[opaque coyote]

Kyle Rayner is the most fun because he actually makes constructs that aren't just

Blocks

[jade holly]

Kyle’s white, clearing my name

[opaque coyote]

Also why he isn't animated because focus is on creativity

[summer mural]

I mean hal makes suitably pre pubescent constructs, like hotwheel racetracks

and jets

[crystal forum]

is that the one ryan reynolds played

[jade holly]

I’ve never really been that big of a GL fan so idk which of them is my favorite

[summer mural]

yeah

[opaque coyote]

And also how he got the ring is funny.

"Do you have immense willpower against impossible odds?"

"Yes, I'm a starving artist."

"Good enough."

[flat nimbus]

Stewart is good but unfortunately never really as good as in JLU or the one mini that established him (and also had him fuck up and destroy a whole planet)

[jade holly]

I’m probably leaning John just cause he’s the one I’m most used to seeing as the Green Lantern

[summer mural]

stewart has a very balanced temperamant, hes usually calm

hes also not super quippy

[jade holly]

Being voiced by Phil Lamarr helps

[crystal forum]

thats what happens when you make a military guy into a super hero with the powers limited by imagination

[opaque coyote]

Ironic given how he was introduced as the generic angry black man.

The 80's were a weird time

[crystal forum]

imagine they made a marine into green lantern

[rocky gale]

Surely they don't outshoot Drukhari, outmelee Drukhari, outtough Drukhari, out vehicle Drukhari and unironicaly have more fucking units than Drukhari

[crystal forum]

I SEND ROCK

[rocky gale]

Surely

[jade holly]

John’s military too

[rocky gale]

Surely

[opaque coyote]

I think he is specifically marines

[jade holly]

Hal’s stuff was mostly planes and aerial based cause he was Air Force tmk

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/schneewittchen-snow-white-gif-11611811703612081503

[summer mural]

Johns constructs are just utility based mostly, they arent super wild

[opaque coyote]

Could be wrong though

[summer mural]

like hel make a hammer

a fist

a cage

[jade holly]

Function over form

[summer mural]

yeah hes super competent

[crystal forum]

why doesnt the green lantern choose an artist or smth

or an architect

[opaque coyote]

Kyle Rayner

[jade holly]

It’s based on emotion not creativity

[opaque coyote]

He literally was an artist

[crystal forum]

what does that even mean

[storm jungle]

what the fuck do you think it means

[summer mural]

what was yellow again, envy?

[storm jungle]

Fear

[opaque coyote]

He also isn't animated because he makes the most complicated constructs

[storm jungle]

aka PISS

[summer mural]

fear

right

[jade holly]

The lanterns are powered by the emotional spectrum

[opaque coyote]

Based on willpower

Not creativity

[crystal forum]

so people who feel stronger emotions have better powers?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[summer mural]

the ring should just choose batman and call it a day

[crystal forum]

an empath's dream

[opaque coyote]

Specifically their color's emotion

[crystal forum]

so if the ring chose somebody with mood swing disorder

[opaque coyote]

So if you're a red lantern. Getting more angry gives you more power

They would suck

But it also depends

[flat nimbus]

Happens often enough it’s lampshaded, actually

[summer mural]

what does lampshaded mean

[opaque coyote]

If they actively struggle with it but still live a stable life. Then they have immense will power and can use the green ring successfully

[storm jungle]

"Lampshaded" (or lampshading) is a storytelling technique where writers intentionally highlight an improbable, clichéd, or illogical plot point within a story to make it more acceptable to the audience. By acknowledging a flaw through dialogue or action, the creator "covers" the weakness, allowing viewers to "roll with it".

[summer mural]

LOL

yeah i bet its lampshaded

[flat nimbus]

the real trick is giving Scarecrow one

[crystal forum]

so green lantern is fueled by your volition trait in disco elysium

make harry dubois a green lantern NOW

[vagrant fox]

does that make the superior half light red guys

[opaque coyote]

Also the Black ring is based on death.

It's first choice was literally a necrophile.

...

The rings are weird

[crystal forum]

what emotion is death based on

[opaque coyote]

[summer mural]

i dunno anything about the white or black ring

[crystal forum]

white would be empathy right?

[languid meadow]

white is life

it's basically all of the rings combined

but it's life

[crystal forum]

yeah but what emotion does it feed on

[languid meadow]

all of them

[opaque coyote]

Basically negative emotions in general

Black Lantern rings basically possess you

You're used by the ring rather than you using the ring

[languid meadow]

it's like a prism where if you take all of the spectrums it comes out white

[summer mural]

how are the rings made anyway, are all of them corrupted green rings

[opaque coyote]

It's pure negativity

[languid meadow]

pretty sure they can jsut spawn into existance

like the grey ring

[summer mural]

damn

[crystal forum]

the chud's greatest power

[opaque coyote]

Again, first choice for the Black ring was literally a necrophile

Who started making zombies

[languid meadow]

dude is always crying

[crystal forum]

does wanting to fuck dead people make you a better candidate or was that just something he had unrelated

[storm jungle]

GYATTTTTT

[summer mural]

oh he looks pretty cool

[dapper gyro]

Batman is one of the strongest black lantern wielder.

[jade holly]

It did once

[opaque coyote]

The only part related was the death part.

The fucking part is unrelated

[summer mural]

i think you need some kind of obssession with mortality i guess

[jade holly]

He once got the Yellow Ring and another time the Green Ring

[crystal forum]

is grey the color of depression?

[languid meadow]

sorrow yeah

[crystal forum]

man but i like grey

[summer mural]

batmans really living life given hes a regular human

[opaque coyote]

Basically this

[dapper gyro]

Yellow ring just doesn't make sense to me.

You need to be scared and paranoid to be strong...

[summer mural]

its the most well known after green pretty sure

[dapper gyro]

Like, what...

[languid meadow]

it's funny because every time he's given either magic or a ring he turns evil

crazy

[summer mural]

you gotta use fear as a tool I think, or let it drive your actions or some such

[opaque coyote]

Batman basically doesn't get a ring because...

Well in-lore he just doesn't like powers. He was also offered to be taught magic but he denied it. Minus the Tibetan monk stuff but apparently those are all just techniques ANYONE can learn.

The doylist reason is that he would just be too busted with a ring.

[crystal forum]

he's one bad day way from becoming konrad curze

[languid meadow]

literally

[opaque coyote]

Batgod is already a problem. He doesn't need a fucking ring added to it.

[jade holly]

Or you need to invoke fear in others

[dapper gyro]

The spectrum of the lantern corps overall is just silly.

[languid meadow]

he's qualified for a yellow and green ring

[jade holly]

One notable member of the yellow lantern core for a time was FUCKING SCARECROW

[summer mural]

batman doesnt need a buff apart from oneshots

[languid meadow]

just every time he gets one he turns evil

[opaque coyote]

For the ring part it's half and half.

He mostly gets green and helps. But usually gives it away after the situation is done.

[summer mural]

Look, I can get red, green and yellow, the others are a bit too immersed in wacky depth

[opaque coyote]

Personally I hate it whenever Batman turns evil when he gets powers

Like

No that's not HOW THAT WORKS

[summer mural]

I mean theres a good case to be made that batmans kinda evil already

[languid meadow]

ultraviolent is a cool ring colour since it doesn't have a ring

[crystal forum]

he's already a rich hero with tons of power yeah. if he was evil he'd already be by now

[opaque coyote]

...no???

[languid meadow]

it's a brand

[dapper gyro]

Blue lantern can't be given to Superman because it would break the balance of the universe, lol.

[vagrant fox]

I'm playing D4 again and I'm questioning how she could possibly be a villain when framed like this

[storm jungle]

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATT

[opaque coyote]

He's literally a billionaire and yet spends most of it helping people ffs

[storm jungle]

🗣️

[languid meadow]

forgot superman is a god right now

due to DCKO

[summer mural]

doesnt he just repeatedly beat up poor folks

[vagrant fox]

mostly correct

[storm jungle]

Theres no "good" billionaire

[opaque coyote]

Comic book land not irl

[storm jungle]

Bruce can never fix Gotham because the writers need it to be permanently shit

[languid meadow]

fucking

Ollie

[storm jungle]

hes a part of teh problem

[crystal forum]

i think by the logic of comic books batman is a good guy

[summer mural]

he is

[languid meadow]

to be fair I think the state can be blamed on a lot of things

[summer mural]

he is a good guy also, but there is a case to be made , not that its conclusive

[languid meadow]

like why tf isn't the joker dead yet

[crystal forum]

it's the whole "only some billionaires are bad" liberal fantasy

[languid meadow]

dude does 50 9/11s

I can only think of like

one "good" rich person

in real life

[dapper gyro]

Most of batman enemies are not even cosmic or godlike entities, many of them were created indirectly by batman's action.

[opaque coyote]

Not really.

Actually helps them mostly. Batman is always usually made because the system itself is corrupt and official channels are too corrupt for him to make change.

Because despite being a billionaire. There are many other rich people in Gotham that basically fuck it up.

[languid meadow]

mark cuban is as good as you'll get with his him fighting for cheap insulin and shit

even then

he's shady

[crystal forum]

the ironic part with batman is how he tries to fight crime instead of adressing the root problem of poverty but thats just like real life

[opaque coyote]

Literally what he does. Even provides free healthcare

Yes

[crystal forum]

doesnt seem to do shit whenever i see gotham depicted

[opaque coyote]

He hires many ex-criminals for his company

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it is LITERALLY CURSED

Like unironically

Supernaturally

Cursed

[crystal forum]

new york?

[opaque coyote]

It's also implied that Gotham is over Hell.

[summer mural]

well alfred has a lot of points, batman would probably have a lot more overall net benefit to society if he spent all his time being bruce wayne solving permanent problems in gotham instead of warping his identity completely

[opaque coyote]

And even has a secret society

[crystal forum]

legends say new york was built over an ancient italian burial ground

[hollow lantern]

Worse

[dapper gyro]

It is like a portal to the warp.

[opaque coyote]

Gotham is basically a mixture of Detroit and NYC in the 1920's

[jade holly]

JERSEY????

[opaque coyote]

So yeah

[jade holly]

BATMAN’S FROM FUCKING JERSEY?????

[crystal forum]

wait gotham has a map??

holy fuck

[languid meadow]

I like when gotham is an island

evil fucking island

[dapper gyro]

You have Lazarus pit underneath, then even more mysterious being bellow that.

[crystal forum]

so gotham is right below new york city?

[opaque coyote]

He does.

Again, Batman is for the problems he can't solve as Bruce Wayne

[jade holly]

What state is New York City in?

[crystal forum]

the one above new jersey?

[opaque coyote]

You can't exactly fix the courts if all the courts are already paid off by other billionaires.

[summer mural]

also in all fairness to batman, gotham is like super fucked, not just in terms of corruption and things, like there are entire lost civilizations living deep underground and secret cabals going around all over the place, and just random hobos like firefly and anarky wanting to blow shit up

[crystal forum]

im not american idfk

[jade holly]

I wouldn’t exactly say Gotham is right below NYC

NYC is further up in New York State

Gotham is at the bottom of Jersey

[opaque coyote]

Yeah in my perspective.

Batman is literally just eternally trying his best to fix a city that is extremely fucked up

[hollow lantern]

It's like a 3 hour drive from Gotham to NY

[opaque coyote]

In some continuities he actually succeeds though

[crystal forum]

they must shit on eachother constantly then

[jade holly]

Yeah but there’s other cities and towns in the way

[opaque coyote]

Y'know the DC Animated Universe?

Yeah he actually succeeds in cleaning up Gotham.

[hollow lantern]

I'm aware, I live in South Jersey and have driven to NY

[heady rivet]

Some guy has a huge list of everything wrong with Gotham and its LONG

[summer mural]

theres even a line in the ww comic when batman is taking her through a swamp near gotham and shes like " oh whats this place called " and he says its called " SLAUGHTER swamp" and shes like " bruh" and hes like " yeah welcome to gotham"

[heady rivet]

https://old.reddit.com/user/JustLookingForMayhem/comments/1s3nv0b/updated_gotham_list/

[storm jungle]

Gotham being cursed is not a universal thing

[jade holly]

Mfw the courts never give death sentences to criminals in Gotham for when they do heinous things

[storm jungle]

Bruce still sucks, all billionaires must be eaten alive by pigs imo

[jade holly]

Like how has Joker not been executed yet

[storm jungle]

[jade holly]

[opaque coyote]

For a while anyways. Unfortunately by the time he is forced to retire. It starts popping up again.

[flat nimbus]

Gotham being literally cursed is very silly

[storm jungle]

Plot

[heady rivet]

No death penalty

[vagrant fox]

but my friend said it's built ontop of bat-satan who curses shit

[crystal forum]

at least rent is low?

[heady rivet]

No <3

[storm jungle]

Its a weak ass way to explain why the city is so shit instead of giving it a humane reason lol

[hollow lantern]

They make a Batman for that either way

[flat nimbus]

the Batman who curses 🤬

[summer mural]

joker gets off on insanity pleas lol, they just lock him up in arkham, also arkham is like the most fucked place in the most fucked city, arkham has like a super dark and messed up history

[jade holly]

Wait until you learn the time Batman turned Gotham into a bat suit

[hollow lantern]

I really gotta actually read absolute Batman

[storm jungle]

im sorry but if this was real life some cop would kill Joker in the back of a patrol car in a few years lol

[crystal forum]

they probably pay half their wages in taxes to repay all the shit joker destroys

[ripe forum]

Why do so many psykers cover their eyes?

[flat nimbus]

see that’s fun comic shit

[storm jungle]

100% do, its legit good and solves almost everything modern batman suffers from lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the DCAU is pretty much one of the few continuities that actually permanently fixes Gotham.

Batman Beyond has Gotham generally be much better than it was before

[summer mural]

batman beyond is so slick

[jade holly]

Darkseid really went “fuck this guy in particular”

[storm jungle]

Their eyes are burnt and get special visors or sight-gadgets to help them navigate where they are looking/doing

[hollow lantern]

I've heard it's unironically actually good past the 90s edge aesthetics to draw people in which is cool

[crystal forum]

my city takes 10 years to build single bridge and gotham had to rebuild its bridges 6 times

[summer mural]

gotham is like nearing cybercity era in batman beyond iirc

[opaque coyote]

Although at the cost of Batman's body, mind, and relationship

[languid meadow]

without batman joker becomes a normal ass dude

like

[hollow lantern]

Terry McGinnis my goat

[languid meadow]

90% of the time

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the whole planet is like

Futuristic cyberpunk era

[jade holly]

Because, in his words, “Without Batman, crime has no punchline”

[ripe forum]

Interesting

[storm jungle]

Without Batman... crime has no yaoi...

[opaque coyote]

And given that Terry actually never really heard of super villains

And is surprised at them appearing

[jade holly]

That one animated movie where Joker keeps calling Batman darling

[opaque coyote]

Batman actually successfully either recovered or defeated all of his foes

[storm jungle]

thats most batman media

[summer mural]

also that absolutely awful killing joke movie

[storm jungle]

Joker wants to give Batman BACKSHOTS

[languid meadow]

like the only normal ass criminals batman ever fights is the penguin and deadshot the rest need psychiatric help and can be changed lol

[ripe forum]

I'm trying to find good art for a navigator but I'll I'm finding is psykers

[summer mural]

also slade

[heady rivet]

Other way around, he is a power bottom

[opaque coyote]

Spends half of it on the fucking Barbara and Bruce romance. Fuck you DC

[crystal forum]

twoface is just a disfigured italian american

[storm jungle]

you'd know

[ripe forum]

[jade holly]

Idk how wrote Slade to do that but I forever hate them

[languid meadow]

is slade a batman villain I thought he was a teen titans villain

[opaque coyote]

He was his own thing

[jade holly]

Yes his name is Deathstroke

[heady rivet]

Homophobia, reported

[opaque coyote]

Introduced with his own comic series

[ripe forum]

He has a gallery of heroes

[summer mural]

deathstroke isnt psychotic, but hes definitely happy as a criminal

[languid meadow]

I know who slade is mf

[jade holly]

Now you know again

[opaque coyote]

Either way he's kinda permanently stained

[jade holly]

I’m so good at my job

[opaque coyote]

Due to uh

Them deciding that he likes them young™

[languid meadow]

deadshot is the cooler merc anyway

[opaque coyote]

100%

Okay 90%

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/injustice2-i-have-my-admirers-admirers-i-have-my-fans-fans-gif-27329934

[opaque coyote]

I still like Deathstroke's design more

The orange is pleasing

[summer mural]

deadshot just being a regular hitman and then developing an obsession with killing batman because he keeps missing is so funny

[heady rivet]

Backshot is kind lame tbh

[languid meadow]

get yourself a partner that care

because backshots are awesome

[flat nimbus]

I mean Bats did shoot him that one time

[jade holly]

Reminds me of how back in the day in one comic Hank was supposed to accidentally hit Janet in a fit of frustration but then they just have him full on backhand her

[opaque coyote]

Not even that. Batman literally just gets in the way of his jobs everytime

[flat nimbus]

at least he’s not Slade “Literal Child Molester” Wilson

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it's a similar situation to that.

They didn't even make Terra a victim. She literally just decided to fuck Deathstroke out of

Absolutely nowhere

I'm not even joking

[languid meadow]

I love how sunshine and rainbows central city is

[summer mural]

tbh

I dont like flash

[languid meadow]

the villains don't kill people and they're friendsish with flash

[summer mural]

never did

[languid meadow]

like their stuff is purely business

[opaque coyote]

The excuse was literally just "Oh look at this horny teenager girl! She loves fucking older men!!"

It's exactly as gross as it sounds

[summer mural]

I just find him lame af, and i get bored of the speedster thing really quickly, especially when they start getting into the mambo jambo of the speedforce itself, like savitar and things, I had to drop it lol

maybe absolute flash is better

[languid meadow]

my only gripe with flash is that there's too fucking many of them

[opaque coyote]

And as a result, Deathstroke's character was basically permanently stained.

[hollow lantern]

I like the flash as a character tbh

[languid meadow]

half the time I can't tell if it's Wally or Barry

since artists will put them in the same fucking suit

[opaque coyote]

Which is why the 2003 TT cartoon basically reinvented the whole thing to basically be Slade grooming Terra.

Equally as gross but actually intentional

And interesting

And good writing

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-gif-8708188

[opaque coyote]

Like I don't mind Deathstroke being an awful person

[summer mural]

i wish flash just had more stuff that was less speedforce focussed, but then you get buffoons like that boomerang guy and captain cold

[opaque coyote]

It's just that whole Terra situation in the original comics was literally just the writer's undisguised and unfiltered fetish

[jade holly]

Don’t you fucking diss Captain Boomerang

[summer mural]

okay the gorilla is pretty cool in all fairness

[languid meadow]

captain cold is also great

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/boomer-captain-captain-boomerang-gif-13142290477249864781

[opaque coyote]

Man literally is often in the suicide squad

And then decides

[languid meadow]

captain boomerang and captain cold are so cool

[opaque coyote]

After escaping what's basically a slow death sentence

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-boomerang-shocked-kill-the-justice-league-suicide-squad-boomerang-gif-11180909504650553437

[jade holly]

I love Boomer cause of just how much of a fucking asswipe he is

[opaque coyote]

"I'm gonna go right back into messing with flash"

Fucking love him

[jade holly]

Bro’s in it for the love of the game

With how bad Killthe Justice League was

[languid meadow]

I love how the only way you're ever in danger in central city is if you're a villain who's killed someone

[jade holly]

Boomerang was never one of those issues

[opaque coyote]

Like usually surviving something like being in the Suicide Squad would have someone reflect about their life

Nope

[languid meadow]

because everyone will jump you lol

[summer mural]

also after flash starts doing crazy stuff like warping time and space because he starts running so fast and then has to keep himself in check so he doesnt implode the cosmos or something 💤

[opaque coyote]

The worst part is that they just decided to stuff it into Arkham's continuity despite it literally not making any sense

[jade holly]

I also love that they knew to make Boomer actually know Flash in depth, like how he figured out Flash was hiding by vibrating so fast you couldn’t see him

[opaque coyote]

"Uhh actually Deadshot in the Arkham games is from an alternative universe!!"

Despite alt. Universes

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/john-gif-22530303

the flash after a beer

[opaque coyote]

LITERALLY NOT BEING A THING IN THE ARKHAM GAMES

[languid meadow]

well now it is

[jade holly]

Frankly the biggest sin besides how they killed “Batman” who was a clone (long story), is Amanda Waller not being built Ford tough

[opaque coyote]

I genuinely think people wouldn't have minded Kill the Justice League that much if it didn't tack itself onto the Arkham series

[jade holly]

Amanda being a brick wall is integral to her design imo

[languid meadow]

real

[summer mural]

I mean its also that we got that instead of an arkham game

[languid meadow]

they did wonder woman and the flash well imo

[jade holly]

Even Superman if you heard some recordings in game

[summer mural]

hows the joker in that game anyway , I heard they made him playable eventually

[opaque coyote]

Funniest thing is that the New 52 changed Waller to be thin.

Nobody liked that. But the funniest part is how they teased her design change into being fat again.

[jade holly]

He’s a twink

[opaque coyote]

Like it's written like an MCU after credits scene

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/pixelrug-clap-fantastic-gif-26443240

[opaque coyote]

And it's fucking hilarious

[languid meadow]

Fat Waller is best waller

[summer mural]

whats with this trend of making joker look absurdly scrawny

[languid meadow]

I think all of the playable characters are pretty good character wise besides joker

[opaque coyote]

Marvel: "I will use the after credits to tease future elements of the cinematic universe I am building up."

DC: "WALLER WILL BECOME FAT AGAIN."

[jade holly]

Because he’s meant to be lanky and creepy looking

[languid meadow]

like Harley, Boomer, Shark, and Deadshot are all pretty solid

[summer mural]

also theres this trend of assuming joker isnt good at fighting, I mean the joker is a ridiculous combatant in a straight fight as just a human

[jade holly]

You wanna see how they did Mr Freeze in game?

[opaque coyote]

It's too bad that they uh

Somehow ruined Harley's character. But the Arkham series generally doesn't handle Harley well.

[solid horizon]

remember when the joker was originally intended as a physical match for batman

[jade holly]

And I lied it’s not Mr Freeze

It’s Mrs Freeze

[opaque coyote]

It's sad how Injustice handled her much better

[solid horizon]

his 1940 appearance would smack tf out batman in one punch

[opaque coyote]

FUCKING INJUSTICE

[languid meadow]

they just made her how she's been depicted for the last couple of years

[summer mural]

yeah, and early on batman actually had to fight him one on one at length to restrain him

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but with zero transitional period

[languid meadow]

less dependent on joker and more "sane"

I prefer this Harley

[opaque coyote]

Because fuck development

Fuck trying to depict her struggle of separating herself from the Joker

Just skip to the end result immediately

[heady rivet]

Harley Quinn is the Deadpool of DC now (Derogatory)

[languid meadow]

unironically the harley series is pretty good for that (kind of)

[opaque coyote]

Yeah sadly she kinda is.

Which is sad cause I actually like Harley

[opaque coyote]

The Harley Quinn show is actually quite fun for me

[languid meadow]

she has to be talked down by ivy to not go back to joker at the slightest hint of reception

[opaque coyote]

Because you can tell the writers are

[jade holly]

Kill the Justice League did get one thing right

[opaque coyote]

Genuinely fans of DC

[celest dome]

Is Deadpool still even the Deadpool of Marvel ? Or is he beating Gweenpool in the wacky side of things

[opaque coyote]

It's a treat

To see a lot of the stuff they do

[opaque coyote]

I also like how Kite Man was shown

He's genuinely respected

And surprisingly enough. I kinda like what they did with Batman?

[languid meadow]

He's normal the only character they really fucked was Damien

[opaque coyote]

Since he was already depicted as a more comedic and obsessed version of himself

[languid meadow]

Bruce's relationship with Joker is cool in that show

[opaque coyote]

"WHERE'S MY GOD DAMN ELECTRIC CAR BRUCE??"'

[jade holly]

I’m not too big a fan of the Harley Quinn show, Alan’s Tudyk Joker was fun though

[languid meadow]

Love how when he's unmasked joker just becomes "friends" with him

And also becomes a dad

[jade holly]

Just not a fan of the more comedic role a lot of the villains got

But I get the show’s meant to be a comedy

[summer mural]

also in the original canon version, does krypton get blown up because kryptonians abuse it so much environmentally or is there just like a natural catastrophe they werent responsible for creating

[opaque coyote]

Brainiac I think

AI moment

[jade holly]

Brainiac v Ultron would be fun to watch ngl

[opaque coyote]

Actually hold on

No that's like

One of the several factors

It's apparently mainly mining

[summer mural]

I think in some versions its brainiac

and some its environmental stuff

[jade holly]

The fucking Votann got to it

[opaque coyote]

Personally prefer it because like

How the fuck do you mine a planet enough to cause it to blow up

[jade holly]

Votann are like termites to a planet

[summer mural]

well I think brainiac does generally get known for having kandor in a glass sphere

so he got his hands on it somehow

[jade holly]

In Injustice 2 Brainiac took Krypton

Injustice Brainiac is so perfect

[opaque coyote]

Honestly the only thing I wish is that there's a Superman version where some of Krypton's people are on colonies.

Since it never made sense to me that they never had anybody else.

On any other planet

Despite having advanced technology and powers with the yellow sun

[summer mural]

nah fuck krypton , I like having krypton villains, like zod and that one other guy who was the worst criminal locked up in the phantom zone and he also survived

also krypton did have colonies, they abandon them eventually

[opaque coyote]

I mean there's Supergirl

But her backstory in the comics

Is basically so overly complicated

[jade holly]

That’s how Zod usually looks?

[summer mural]

the kryptonians used to be a lot more spacefaring in their history iirc, and they had colonies but eventually called everyone back to krypton or someshit

[opaque coyote]

Due to her partially being a victim of the multi-verse fucking dying

[jade holly]

I’m gonna be honest my only exposure to him was the Man of Steel movie and Injustice 1

[opaque coyote]

Again. This is why I prefer Brainiac blowing up the planet.

Because it makes sense for him to like

Call all of Krypton's people

Specifically to kill them all

[opaque coyote]

DCAU Brainiac is my favorite

[summer mural]

actually iirc, even the man of steel movie makes a reference to the kryptonians having colonies, and thats where zod salvaged a bunch of his equipment from after he came out of the phantom zone

[opaque coyote]

But that's because I am DCAU pilled

[languid meadow]

sometimes I forget you can put "ians" at the end of something and almost called the Kryptonese

[opaque coyote]

I like how he looks way more robotic

[languid meadow]

the superman show did Krypton kind of cool

basically viltrum lol

[opaque coyote]

Idk I feel like it's better than the usual

Weird look?

How he looks weirdly humanish?

[opaque coyote]

Like with how cold Brainiac is

It always makes more sense to me that he'd look robotic

Why would he bother having a human-like body?

[summer mural]

honestly, I feel like zod, brainiac and lex are a big cut above the rest of supermans villains

[jade holly]

He had a non robot form?

[opaque coyote]

Would Darkseid be considered a Superman villain?

[jade holly]

Okay just throw Doomsday under the rug huh?

[opaque coyote]

Like I usually associate him with Superman

[jade holly]

Darkseid’s a JL villain

[summer mural]

no, id say hes a justice league villain

[languid meadow]

that's the hologram

[summer mural]

id definitely say supermans his nemesis in justice league though

but like, batman has a huge role to play in a lot of darkseid stuff

[jade holly]

You know what I wanna see? More depictions of Killer Croc with wrappd hands and a trenchcoat

[languid meadow]

the only two Kryptonians that are left in that show are Clark and Kara but Brainiac rules the empire alone basically

[opaque coyote]

Yeah.

Idk I just feel like he fits Superman the most.

One is the embodiment of hope. The one who uses his powers to help people.

The other is literally the manifestation of evil. His planet basically mirrors Krypton's destruction but if it stayed a blasted hellhole instead of mercifully dying.

[summer mural]

doomsday and bizarro etc are fine tbh, but i like the other 3 a lot more

[opaque coyote]

A saviour vs a conquerer

[languid meadow]

I really do like this Brainiac design

[opaque coyote]

A hero vs a tyrant

Both are alien

Both are considered God amongst men in terms of power

[summer mural]

well I mean

[opaque coyote]

I need to watch the Superman Show

[languid meadow]

Darkseid is a god

if you kill him he comes back

[summer mural]

if darkseid was just a superman only villain, i wouldnt rate supermans chances very high of dealing with him alone

[languid meadow]

he's like a constant in the universe

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I know.

I just feel like Darkseid thematically fits Superman the most

Like it kinda doesn't really fit with the rest of the League

I always felt like it makes sense for Darkseid to have mostly beef with Superman

[summer mural]

I mean in terms of power yes, because darksied has to be strong enough to fight the justice league on his own

[jade holly]

I still think my big 3 favorite DC villains are Killer Croc, Scarecrow and Mister Freeze

[languid meadow]

out of every 1 on 1 story darkseid has had it's all been superman iirc

if it's not that he's fighting the JL

[summer mural]

personally I think spiderman and batman easily have the best set of villains over the others

[opaque coyote]

My favorite DC Villains are:

Joker (very original I know)

Darkseid

And Scarecrow.

[languid meadow]

both of them kind of fry the other villains tbh

[summer mural]

like case doesnt have to be made for batman having great villains, but spiderman is right up there, his villains are pretty good mostly

[opaque coyote]

In terms of Marvel Villains despite nobody asking.

Galactus

CARNAGE

And Bullseye.

[jade holly]

While we’re talking show depictions of villains

[languid meadow]

Galactus is an odd character

[jade holly]

We need to remember the OG legend

[languid meadow]

because sometimes he's a villain but he's really just a force of the universe that NEEDS to happen

he's not really evil in a lot of depictions

[opaque coyote]

He's more of a force of nature. Someone who doesn't actually want to do the things he does. But he has to

Someone has to do the dirty work

And Galactus is unfortunately the Universe's Janitor

[languid meadow]

yeah

[opaque coyote]

He also acts like a sort of test

The Great Filter basically

[jade holly]

Does anybody remember this guy?

[opaque coyote]

If a civilization survives them

They're worth moving on

I also like the hopeless descriptions of his encounters with planets

Most just give up

Accept their end

[summer mural]

doc ock, sandman, lizard, electro, mysterio,green goblin, kraven , scorpio, rhino, kingpin( originally a spiderman villain), hobgoblin, venom, carnage , mister negative- spiderman villains that are pretty good for the most part tbh

[languid meadow]

masta splinter

[opaque coyote]

Fucking love Mr. Negative

Despite him literally just being

[jade holly]

It’s the Mandarin from Iron Man Armored Adventures smh

[opaque coyote]

"Asian dude with powers to turn into inverted colors"

[summer mural]

his lasers are cool

[languid meadow]

I'm not used to the Mandarin looking like that

[jade holly]

I love how they did him in Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur

[languid meadow]

used to him looking sterotypically chinese

[jade holly]

His motive was his neighbor’s room was 2ft taller than his

[opaque coyote]

Me too

https://youtu.be/2AyiyK5RqEQ?feature=shared

[summer mural]

they dont call him mister negative for nothing

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-negative-martin-li-marvel-moon-girl-devil-dinosaur-gif-16369548691005397699

[summer mural]

batman might have spidey beat though

that rogues gallery is crazy

[opaque coyote]

"Part time villain, full time luxury euthanist!"

I also like how zesty his voice is

[jade holly]

Speaking of

[summer mural]

Bane, Joker. Enough said

[jade holly]

I love how I’m modern depictions Riddler is way more like Jigsaw

[opaque coyote]

Shit I should've added Bane to the favorites

[jade holly]

Arkham Riddler was perfect

[opaque coyote]

Very rarely done right

But when he is done right

Fuck is he great

[jade holly]

Arkham Origins Bane

https://tenor.com/view/batman-batman-arkham-origins-bane-bane-vs-batman-ceiling-gif-6164893486889157512

[summer mural]

banes premise entry into every story is based, because all writers in every adaptation give him the treatment of " yeah hes really gonna beat up batman for 80% of the story"

then batmans gonna overload his venom or banes gonna overuse it and fry himself

[opaque coyote]

Knightfall, Arkham Origins, and the Absolute universe did him justice

Everyone else kinda just

Doesn't really know what to do with him

[summer mural]

plus bane is always intelligent

[jade holly]

Origins had such great interpretations of characters

Origins Joker was so fucking good

https://tenor.com/view/arkham-joker-the-joker-arkham-origins-arkham-asylum-gif-11462108120690644801

[opaque coyote]

Origins Bane was great but unfortunately he had to get nerfed to fit with the rest of the Arkham games

And Arkham Bane in general is just

So fucking lame

[summer mural]

origins nailed what it went for, they said its gonna be a grittier batman story ( and the previous arkham games were fucking gritty already) because batmans younger and more violent, and hes gonna face a bunch of these villains for the first time

[opaque coyote]

Also Arkham Shadows shows that

They can do a really good story with zero Joker presence

It's too bad it's a VR game

I watched the entire story and it is so fucking good

[jade holly]

SHADOWS MENTIONED

https://tenor.com/view/rat-catcher-rat-king-dc-arkham-shadows-batman-gif-14805567991407257146

[opaque coyote]

Probably one of the best Batman media

[summer mural]

overall though, can we just appreciate how fucking good the arkham games were as a videogame experience

[opaque coyote]

The Rat King storyline is what they tried to do with "Who's the Arkham Knight" but actually like

Done well

It genuinely was a mystery that left me guessing for a while

And the reveal that it was ||Two-face||?

[jade holly]

It’s clearly RatCatcher smh

[opaque coyote]

Chills.

[summer mural]

also arkham games gave me so much mark hamill joker done to the absolute hilt

[opaque coyote]

Also Troy Baker was made to voice Two face

Genuinely one of the best performances Harvey Dent ever got

[summer mural]

I like scarecrows aesthetic in knight too, the injectors over his fingers look pretty cool

[opaque coyote]

Also his origin changing into ||having Bruce disguised as Malone technically be the one who accidentally caused the incident?||