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I think giving him a supernatural angle is genius but im not huge on the design
its weird because i love all Absolute designs minus his
its too simple
i think it works better in some panels too
the multiple rows of smiling teeth is nah ๐
IM COOKED
Cannot take seriously the pre-reveal Joker
like everyone constantly went "thats the seriouest guy ever he does not joke at all" ALL THE FUCKING TIME like yeah we get Joker aint a prankster yet
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the best part was people going
"Wow joker funding orphanages and eating people is so goofy!"
yeah it was once

reminds me of the Master in Doctor Who where he haves a ungodly amount of teeth
Ngl I never found that goofy
I found that like
In line lol
Neither did I
It is goofy until people realise how horrific some rich people are IRL
i found it was fitting
like the fetus revival thing was inspired by a rich guy IRL who uses his own son's blood to "stay young" like what the fu-
that shit is probably lighthearted compared to what irl rich people actually do
there are some shit so horrific that it would probably be better for it to kept mystery
tbh im glad it exists because now you can finally fucking tell people to shut up when something is "too unrealistic" when it comes to the horrors people can do
they always downplay it and say rich people could never do [insert here] IRL
Yes. They would.
its literally what hedonism is
Wendigoon "'The government wouldnt do that!' yes, yes they would." quote always works for this type of shit
There is literally no limit with these people
Nothing is bounding them from not doing. They have the money, the means and the contacts to make anything they want real and there are people willing to do it
Again when you got everything you get bored fast
and when you get bored fast you start "experimenting"

There are some shit that even Satan himself could not come up with
oh how I could just...
LMFAO
anyways, time to do some lore-digging for the best way to develop my warbands organisation/hierarchy system

What happened
turn on any news channel
No
good
however you'll be hearing about this for the next few months
it will be insufferable
Why what happened
assassination attempt against dear leader
Awha
and it is also pretty memable
Twas yesterday!
so expect that for a while
oh the white house dinner thing
says 6 hours ago for me
Im confused as to why they initially said the suspect was dead but now he is arrested
Are they stupid
How the situation at the white house was genuinely described by right wingers
you dont kill a hydra by cutting off its head
What if I have the plasma cutter from dead space and its maxed out
What then
necromorph in the vent behind you
For the longest time I thought the suicide bomber meme was from batman arkham city idk why
I guess I didn't see the floating cars
doesnt require lee harvey oswald levels of fed brainwashing or marine training
oh wait fuck you're right its from DS3
to assassinate world leaders
I legitimately just discovered this rn I swear I thought this was from batman 
granted, it helps
i am aware
i barely played that game too
1 and 2 are the good ones
on paper
How is it soulless its just a good repackaging of a previously perfect game
some elements are usually lost in a remake
especially when done by a completely different studio
Yeah but what elements were lost
The game is identical save for Isaac Clarke being an actual character and some mechanic changes
And more side content
i dont think you'll agree with me regardless of what my points will be
not worth it
initiating goop mode
You're baiting me
Well because I'm genuinely curious
it's a matter of personal taste i think
The company isnt paying me to defend them
Banger
well to be quite honest it's mostly a vibe thing
and it's hard to describe
so i wont because idk how
as soon as u post ur opinions we will vehemently attack and thought-terminate you
I can see that reasoning the vibes are very different to me as well
We many
Kill disagreer
we, as in ALL OF us
I dont really like the new zero g mechanics they give me a migraine
All as one
part of me is also really still pissed at DS's studio being shut down
all because solo games became unprofitable for like a couple years
then they're profitable again
dead space is part of my childhood
I miss actual linear games like dead space i am actually so sick and tired of open world content and like camps to do and shit
Im so exhausted from it
back when EA thought live service games is the future
and they proceed to eat their own words ๐
i really liked metro exodus
probably one of the best done semi open world types
yeah
I havent gotten past 2 tbh
exodus is great
and i'm only now realizing that metro isnt popular in north america
metro 2 is great too
I know they had a vr game come out but I think it sucks
We got 2039 comin as well
oh that one isnt made by the main studio so it's safe to ignore
it's decent according to reviews
i still have yet to play it
im modelling an abzat to print in anticipation
i hope it will be in the game
coolest metro gun
Noice
Pretty does seem pretty under rated talking about it..
thing is massive
although interestingly not to scale for a real dshk
i found that out
Dont even remember half the gun's name in metro
But i can recognize the bolt air pump gun anywhere
Oh yeh for sure
I remember the Saiga
Cant wait to see if they can atleast add gun modification in 2039
the leaks are bullshit!!!
stop looking at them
a lot of them are from the cancelled 2034 game
Not talking about the leaks
Talking about this fucking thing
New hell breath ?
that looks like hellbreath to me
those are coils
it's a coilgun
hellbreath
well the hellbreath was a railgun
but still
Hell breath was also way bigger
Also the game will probably have exodus customization since new kalash stock
hey a lot of the guns look way different in exodus so maybe the hellbreath got a change too
i genuinely do not like the exodus bastard
And new smg
thats a bastard
look the guy behind has the old mag
like a modernized bastard
Oh yeah
looks like the novoreich got some standardization going
The 4th Reich had some but not much
Only the redline, hanza, and Spartans had actually standardization before
noboreich has access to the armory now
and all the metro
so they might have actually gotten some shit working again
I do wonder what happened to hanza
Since they were the biggest faction in terms of manpower
Even out matching the red line
idk how the reich took over tbh
probably involves taking over D6
remember that D6 has enough firepower to level the entire metro
hunter being in charge means he might have sold out D6 to the reich and taken over
chaos gods watching the Horus vs Emperor fight
cool abominatus art by eddy davila
This guys mask and choice of weapon is so fucking funny
Imagine that fuck ass grin as he lashes you
Rogue trader is only really fun late act 1 to late act 3
Maybe a bit into act 4 in the usual power fantasy way
But beyond that is just letting your 1 turn combo rip every encounter
Is there a canonical reason as to why we only send 4 man parties in on missions when we could send more?
cus we're supposed to be covert ops
penal covert ops albeit
and probably cus only four rejects can fit on the storm raptor
We're semi disposable and we're meant to get in and out
The size of the hordes also isn't lore accurate
as funny as that would be
But for missions like campaign 1 where we have a dedicated safe landing area that we have secured wouldn't it be smarter to send more dudes
assuming the Storm raptor is a normal valk it has a capacity of 12
Is the strength of bosses lore accurate?
it depends
Cuz I find it hard to believe that 4 conscripts can beat up captains in armies and like 200 dudes running them down
the captains wouldn't all have refactor fields lore wise
its very tiny
and some weapons can just instantly fucking kill them
lol
like
plasma just kills you
you die
I feel like the Karnak twins shouldn't have any difficulty wiping teams
Though I am very not versed in 40k lore
Yeah but they also would be way squishier in lore
i think the karnaks are just regular guys
Aren't they super soldiers or something?
and have some blessings of nurgle
no
Sorry darktide is my first warhammer game
nah don't be sorry
But the Karnak twins are just 2 normal Twins from a noble family
with nice equipment
And the blessings of nurgle
which would definetly help them out
in terms of not dying
but plasma gun to the torso/head tends to kill anything remotely human sized in 40k
I don't completely get who nurgle is but from what I can tell he's like the god the heretics worship or smth
most of the guns would probably incapacitate and kill in one shot
Can ogryns tank the shots?
Yeah Nurgle is the Chaos god of Decay, Disease, Despair and rebirth
autos and lasguns especially
no
they could endure lasguns and auto guns
but plasma kind of just kills you
Mmm I can tell from ingame
plasma can be used to instantly kill space marines/deal with light vehicles
nurgle is one of the four chaos gods that permeate the warp
he is the god of decay, plague, and toxic stuff and rebirth
this heretic cult in particular worships nurgle
Also Rinda's power sword would kind of mess up anyone without a power weapon lol
Because you can't block a power weapon without a weapon with a powerfield or something like a refractor shield
Isn't it a plasma pistol?
i dunno
And apparently delete toughness ๐ญ
LOL
im not big into the lore either so
tbh if Darktide was lore accurate this game would be rocket tag lol
Aside from for the Psyker and Ogryn
Rocket tag?
Ogryn because they're thick and Psyker because they can protect themselves
you get shot you die horrifiically lol
Ooh
So just spam down grenades got it
which can protect you from like
A chunk of the guns the Moebians and Cult of admonition use
its like getting shot irl with armor on
its going to fucking suck ๐
and some of the stuff they use can just get through flak armor like the Gunners Hotshot Volleygun
Oh yeah what's the faction we are on? Cuz I recall that zola and rannick were having a talk about shaking moebian morale in the karnak mission, but dukane and others are aligned with moebians
The Imperium. The Moebian sixth are specifically a traitor guard regiment
The other moebians are loyalists
add these guys with the big ass flamethrowers
Specifically the Rejects are part of the Inqusition
we are apart of the imperial inquisition, specifically inquisitor grendyl's warband
which is the Imperiums secret police which can be thought of as like
fusing every single horrific secret police organization irl
with no oversight

I'm gonna nod my head along and pretend I understand what all those factions are lmao
no secret police organizations have oversight el oh el
some have some oversight 
I'm here for the stabbing not really understand what we are fighting for
the imperium is the giant fascist genocidal empire you fight for
The Imperium is what most of humanity is stuck under.
its a shithole authoritarian regime
lemme grab the uh
trillions of people die every single day under the imperium
bit from every book opening one moment
yeah grab the cool intro thing
lol
In The Grim Darkness Of The Far Future, There Is Only War
Oh...and here I thought the imperium was largely good with a little bit of exploitation
living conditions of said "good guys"
"To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable."
I mean I thought it was just b/c humanity grew too large
yes we are the good guys
The adeptus mechanicus literally work people to death and just import new people to work to death ๐
no the whole point of the imperium is that they intentionally keep their common folks stagnant and decaying
So overpopulation isn't the issue understood
The people hadron is part of
they are excruingingly ignorant and bureaucratic, they are an ultra-totalitarian militaristic fuedal society
Tbh Hadron probably would have rather all the rejects gotten a lobotomy lol
no theyre fucking evil
like there is no justification for them
they are straight evil
I LOVE ENSLAVING PEOPLE
Wow
I LOVE KILLING INNOCENTS
Where the rebellions
RAAAAAAAAAAAAH
The Chaos cult ingame is one
There's also many others
Rebellions are the main thing the Imperium stomps down
most rebellions take place in the form of chaos cults and xenos insurrections
Sure Orks are a massive issue
but turns out when you treat the people like shit
they'll fight back eventually
the imperium will destroy entire planets and sentence entire human populations to death just to staunch the flow of chaos
Surely with the sheer number of bodies that rebellions would use one would be successful
oh there was, kinda
The Horus Heresy
as for one
yes
the imperium cracks down hard on rebellions, that and planets are super decentralized from each other so rebellions without outside cooperation are almost impossible
^
The fact the Moebian rebellion is as sucessful as it is, is a failure on multiple levels of the Imperiums regime structure
ironically
the imperium is basically the HRE, a giant malaise of feudal planetdoms which all unite under the banner of religious fanaticism, ignorant bureaucracy and extreme desperation
HRE if you mixed them with space nazis
el oh el
true!
There's like also a lot of more horrific regimes lol
they got bits from Mussolini's flavor of facism where regionalism is bad
yes we know
And everyone is united under one shared banner 
they are fascists
yes
they are class-collaborating fascists with some of the worst social cohesion ever to be seen in fascism

Well I guess that's all my questions answered
Thanks for being so patient with me
I'll be back if I have more questions once I'm done being clapped by this havoc mission
adding on this: overpopulation is one of the imperium's biggest pointers
cramming billions of people into continent-sized rat holes is not an issue for the imperium
the imperium constantly needs manpower and labour-power in order to keep their infernal war machine turning
but at the same time, the massive population of the imperium is barely manageable as is, entire hive cities can get displaced via bureaucratic failures and there is a constant, neverending demand for massive agricultural and industrial support
Nah I'm helping low havoc for the penance lol
ah
Ok that makes sense
I wouldn't be wrong in assuming that the stupid population stops the conscripts from revolting right
Or just dying to throw the mission for the heretic groups?
The only rational explanation I can think of myself is that we are instilled with extreme loyalty from an early age which is why we are willing to be so disposable
that is exactly why
The Imperium loves propaganda and faith
its faith is a literal death cult
martyrdom is celebrated
well yes
a stupid, dogmatic population wouldnt know any better
Woo blood for the blood god
no commoner in 40k is educated and there is a reason why
BLOOOD FOR THE EMPEROR SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE
anything resembling critical thought is heresy by imperium standards
well it's not just that
we ARE disposable
brainwashed or not, everybody in the imperium is disposable
Including military officials?
Like not the top but like field officiers or whatever the equivalent is
depends
usually high-ranking military officials and nobility are more important to the imperium than regular soldiers
field officers not included probably
So like Dukane morrow hadron Zola are all important enough to not get sent into the meat grinder?
even then they are ultimately disposable
C'mooon, we ain't disposable.
Look how many Burgles we kill every mission.
We're the best guys arooound.
Hadron would consider herself disposable due to the ideology of the Cult mechanicus and her ranking within it.
everything is disposable in the Quest for knowledge
She doesn't want to die, but if dying meant advancing the Mechanicus's goals she would be glad to do so
Damn if I had a nickel for every time a person belonging to a knowledge faction would die in the pursuit of knowledge I would have 2 nickels
lol
but ultimately everyone is disposable to the Imperium lore wise
aside from the very very very very very top of the echelon
and even then they will be replaced
dukane is a militarum commissar who has taken control of the 53rd steelheads on atoma, she is very important because commissars are very high-ranking field commanders as well as political officers
morrow is a lowly sergeant-major, but he is an inquisitorial asset who is providing his veteran expertise to the warband
hadron is a techno archeologist and representative of the adeptus mechanicus from mars, who helps in the manufacture of weapons and upkeep of equipment for the warband
zola is an inquisitorial acolyte and interrogator rannick's protege, who also helps lead missions
all of these people are expendable
Is the emperor some immortal omniscient being or just some really really old family
he is the carrion emperor of the imperium
Emperah gonna live forever.
Man I really need context on warhammer lore lol since I understand very little
I'll find the lore somewhere else I suppose
as of now, the god-emperor is a vegetable who requires the souls of ten thousand people every day to live
read the lexicanum
its a pretty good wiki
but for all intents and purposes, he is immortal, and he is very omniscient
The Emperor was a human who ascended into an incredibly powerful psyker. He ended up nearly dying and was put on the Golden Throne which keeps him alive
I assume that the scab faction in the game is the moebian 6th right? And dregs are the heretics?
as long as you feed hm souls
Yes
Coolio
The Dregs are the Cult of Admonition and the Scabs are the Moebian 6th
yes
they are both the heretics
Very off topic, would some imperial knight houses have access to human history and other information from before the age of strife because of their working machines from the Dark Age of Technology?
it dependsโข
but the moebian 6th are the brawns, and the cult of admonition are the brains
there's also less of the 6th then the cultists
probably ๐คท๐ฝโโ๏ธ
the cultists are ironically more expendable
then the trained soldiers of the 6th
despite them masterminding the rebellion
i guess the moebian 6th are the brains because they have tactical expertise
they are both brawns and brains in their own rights
I was just randomly thinking about adding markings similar to a B-17 bomber onto a Knight Castellan Iโm going to be building and painting soon and I realized that if Knights had machines from the Dark Age of Technology that were actually working they might know about it themselves
that would be cool
imperial knight piloting nobles would probably squander their technological prowess on dumb things
like money
does the imperium have a set currency
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or is it just a barter economy
or is it like the actual holy roman empire where every single decentralized fiefdom had their own form of currency
From what I understand about how the mechanicus and the Knight worlds trade, itโs bartering, treasure, and resources like minerals, food, and iron
No
Different sectors tend to have different currencies
I.E in The Moebian Dominion its the Aquilla
In Calaxis its the Thrones
Alecto has fucking slates
Necromunda has creditsโข
Also Solars for the Macharian sector
yes they printed Macharius on them lmao
i am aware how decentralized currency systems work
mapooparian
is that like a first ed warhammer pop quiz or something 
yeah
i've only seen this in sticker form until now and didn't realize that it was an Ainz clip ๐๐
C
It looks like something you would find on a McDonald toy box
Hive Tyrant Lupercal
that one guy looks like he has tubes going to his crotch
middle third of this guy's got moves
all the abrahamic religions came up while there were a shitzillion feral scavenger dogs, so a shallow reading of them makes it look like they all hate dogs, but historically nah they had pet dogs, guard dogs and work dogs like every other aggricultural civilization
I do feel a lot of Abeahamic religions suffer from lack of updating the context in which their texts were written
And the fanatical ones insist on following what is written to the exact letter
to their specific interpretation of what is written tbh
dogs have been with us longer than bread
we are a species that loves to hold out one hand and try to make a connection with a completely different species
even though most of the time that gets us super mauled
the small handful of times it worked out it worked out so good though
I mean, small but significant. Horses, cows, pigs, cats, dogs, sheep, chicken...
B!
we keep trying to make friends with bears
But if friend shaped, why not friend
How it feels to have an Escher pfp
dissolve the funny blue pill under your tongue NOW
i should be allowed to forcefem anyone i see with a anime girl pfp
Heh
And that is why I refuse to use any living thing as a pfp lol
Today on Teh Net Funnies
Did yall know about the gene stealer thats hiding near the throne on terra?
Huh
i remember reading about some genestealer cult in hy brasil (formerly alaska apparently) and they sent custodes to deal with it
but couldn't 100% root it out I think?
They didnt
yeah
The gene stealer is fucking gigantic
so the aassumption was theyre still around terra
At any moment there could be those parasites on terra as a result and I wanna see that
sounds like a 40k endtimes thing if we're ever getting one
There's also the malice and star child issue
Things be hitting peak climax soin
Soon*
Lol
i know a bit about star child, whats malice
Potentially a split part of the emperor that became malice

Nothing will happen to Terra as they're not wanting to see it change up too much
Soon for the last 20 years...
Malice is wholly separate from the potential Chaos God Emp
That would be the Dark King (Encroaching Ruin)
Another 20 trillion years of Status Quo
Ooooh I mixed them up, woops
id like to see what Guilliman and Lion meet up at the least
malice is old and outdated and isnt in 40k any more
i think Lynxiee mentioned Lion wanted to meet Guilliman now somewhere at the end of the 500 worlds codex?
Still in 40K, just not important at all.
i feel like also gw is very wary of doing an "end timesโข2" cause 40k is their money machine
but thats my personal conspiracy theory to infinite 40k stagnation
Sons of Malice were active during the fall of Cadia.
Still is GW just doesnt mentions it a lot
I read like the first issue of absolute ww, so..she's basically zagreus
the stakes constantly ramp up yet still result in nothing of substance go figure
and also mildly violent
maybe they should fix their 40 thousand consistentsies 
He still is iirc.
Just with the Sons of Malice Warband though
like they BLEW UP cadia yet somehow some way there's an infinite ammount of cadians being so proud of their dust they call a homeworld
"Brother. We need to talk"
like no actual change to them as a faction or group they're just a little madder now
well they also have a fortress on an asteroid thats basically new cadia
BLOW THAT UP TOO
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There are multiple "new Cadia".
drunk drive the vengeful spirit into that bum ass fortress
40k doesnt have any logical numbers, theres infinite detachments and infinite strike teams and infinite warbands for everything, it depends on the writer
fuck em all
Including some whole Cadian regiments on the Phalanx.
also most of the marine chapters are constantly stating they are depleted and near extinction half the time, but they still just get 1k marines for that one operation
at least the black templars are honest, theyve basically got tyranid numbers 

I just think its such wasted potential and honestly sours the cadians for me that like their whole fucking planet, the entire source of their unshakeable pride that defines cadias BLEW THE FUCK UP and it has changed nothing about them, its still "we're the guys who defend the chaos gate we're unshakable" like jesus hell
lol, their number can regenerate back for full strength in about 10 years.
My warband has almost the size of a proxy legion while not being near red corsairs or black legion at same time 
I have reached 40k writer status
like okay sure our whole defining trait really means nothing now lmao
The SM are hard to make, but it doesn't take that long.
it never did 
Basically about the same amount of time for a normal human to become a veteran guardsman.
i read that as vegetarian guardsmen first
just a skinny ahh guardsman cuz he dont want the corpse starche rations
also I like daemons in fantasy, 40k doesnt handle daemons very well
Ork is vegetable, so that check out?
arent they ore like molds
MUSHROOMS ARENT VEGETABLES
apparently
mushrooms are fruits yes
they're fungus im gonna yell
fungus is its own plant animal freakazoid not even closely related to the grand tree of plants that we see greening all over the planet
they are the secret third thing
This is orks, the in universe call it fungus, but what if it is actually tree?
i mean they bleed

also the aos orks look like bananas theyve got a bunch of yellow
the bigger banana
The only reason that the SM numbers are so limited and controlled in the lore is because they don't want too many of the SM fall to chaos.
Be pissed off about anything ๐คท
does he just hang around a forest planet somewhere like the predator and hunt a bunch of animals and flense their skulls for eternity
he cant even fly iirc
He get summoned to different worlds, slaughter indiscriminately
And fuck back off to the Warp
laaaamee
when does he have character growth and decide to maintain a wellbeing journal
Look at Man-Spider from the new Spider Man Noir movie
based
now thats something I can get behind Kraven hunting
an actual spiderman
does the noir movie have a villain
I think so teah i didnt really watch the trailer just saw bits and pieces online
also isnt it supposed to be some nic cage project
Yeah
that doesnt look like Mr Cage
Thats because its not him
How old is the feller now
Man spider is a different character
I still think cage would have made a better johnny silverhand instead of keanu
nic cage can do anything, hes entertainment overload
tbh I dont like keanu having vast sums of dialogue
hes got a very dry delivery
and a monotonous voice
Yeah because johnny is dry
Keanu Reeves is there because Johnny Mnemonic
He tries to come up as a cool ass mf who served as a martyr
ALTHOUGH
and I am loathe to say this
but keanu might have been a better ghost rider
Yup
Keanu saying stuff like lets ride and back to hell works
just let him do movements rest of the time
When do we get Nicolas Cage perturabo
No
Lucius then

Apparently, Doppelganger is going ot appear in this too.
Lucius Cage would be so dope
but it wouldnt be as good roboute cage
Trazyn cage

Lucius needs to be a twink
Nicolas Cage could be a good Maloghurst or The Half Heard
carnage is a good villain tbh
why does he have like 20 seperate absolute comics though
Because milking money is what corpos do
Nicolas Cage alpharius and John Travolta omegon
also part of why carnage is so cool is because hes post venom and you really start to see venoms decency once carnage is around, and venom ate folks.
Gulp
also one of venoms big W's is that spidey sense doesnt trigger it , and thats even more funny with carnage
since he can morph into other people and walk around peter with huge murderous intent
Funny you mention that:
They just had Peter bond with Carnage.
Ngl Carnage is a cool ass name might steal it for some shit
yep
carnage's premise is really cool
a symbiote bonds with a full blown psycopath
and brock is just a jilted reporter
he makes venom look heroic af
Alright chat
It doesn't last long, but apparently, they bond over anger.
My warband Accursed Cohort works in grand companies that me calls Battalions
What do we think of title "Warmonger" for each captain of a battalion?
Tbh, Imagine if chaos gods decided to make the obliterator virus sentient and it just jump from a CSM to a guardsmen.
Yes, it is like that
Its just that the warband calls it different just to be different

Obliterator cultists would be cool, just humans with lasguns or auto-guns popping out of their chest or knees.
The regular human body would not be able to survive that
The virus still spreads to humans, they just end up dying
I mean it sounds fine tbh
anything beats "captain"
you can call them lord warmonger or something
I wanted special cool names for the grand companies leaders
Like how IW name theirs warsmiths
I think Warmongers are cool enough, lord overdoes it
does the warband have a theme
I can send you the overview i did yesterday
Changed it a bit but cant send the updated version cause im on mobile and the app doesnt have cloud for free 
Captains are ranks given to lesser champions inside the grand companies
So it would be
Warmonger (grand company captain)
Captain (basically sergeants) for specialized leaders of detachments inside the Battalion
Being illogical is very chaos like.
just get rid of captain imo
call the sergeants battlechiefs or something
or warbringers

etc
Ok yeah warbringers is better
Now the termie squads which some times can be seen escorting the warband leader is gonna be tough i think
probably call a unit of your berserker type dudes wardrunks
Lmao
Those are just gonna be called average 40k terms
"Designated Berserker squads"
Or some shit
I thought of just calling them Decimators
that can work sure
lemme google synonyms 
youve got annihilators
exterminators
eradicators
pillagers
ruiners
ravagers is pretty cool

Brutalizer
Pillaging aint really the warbands thing, they dont like doing generic ass raids for looting
They are forced to sometimes but their main thing is legit taking over a planet completely
you can also just call them something like " The Wartorn"
I was gonna call the mutated fellas of the warband (from either chaos boons or just gene-seed defect) Wartorn
The Wartorn for the mutated and "Helforged" for the possessed
Aint exterminator squads already a thing?
ultramarines. Disgusting.
yes they are
so are devastator squads
well I dunno if primaris have devastators
what are primaris heavy bolter teams called
I think its just (heavy gun name) intercessor squad lowkey
It is just heavy intercessor...
They took the cool battleroles the firstborn used to have
And then added reavers
I think I'll just call the termie squads Decimators for now
Ravagers is also a cool sounding one
Gods I cant wait for DOW4, Im playing DOW1 but I suck at it vs hard AI
you just get straight up outmanaged
I wanted something like "Huscarls" which the Red Corsairs have
It'll be nice to play against people when the new game comes out
dow2 is my personal fav of the series
Plus total war40k
Gonna get my ass kicked to the easy AI cause i lowkey do not know how to play
But it will be fun
mostly because dow2 has a huge narrative and character focus compared to dow1
and 3 is just universal garbage
but dow1 has better scale, basebuilding etc
Wait
Post primaris do marines still go for the process of being assigned into Heavy and Assault squads before being turned into Intercessors/Tacticals?
Or are they assigned Intercessors without serving in the other types?
Mostly into Vanguard or intercessor, then moving on from that.

It should be
Reaver > assault > heavy > Intercessor why do they move on from vanguard straight into intercessor
It doesnt make fucking sense
I have hard time understanding your chart.
The codex astartes truly is a bunch of bullshit
Newly recruited are put to serve in the reaver squads, which then should be moved on by serving time either in Assault or Heavy squads to develop skills and discipline in both fields and then be turned intercessors aka tacticals
Reaver?
Thats how it was before
Marines did service in devastators/assault squads before turning tacticals
Phobos guys
10th company
Reiver!
Citation?
I think its in the 9th astartes codex hol on
Reaver > assault > heavy > Intercessor why do they move on from vanguard straight into intercessor
The assault and heavy are roles. The type is intercessor, it is not a progression.
stupid chud phone with the autopedantry
The phobos are usually 8 and 9 coy.
Link?
Sorry, it is not that I don't trust you, I just want to read it as well.
Its fine
Citing sources should be like
Mandatory shit to do in discussions
But yeh phobos wearing squads are just 10th company marines which are assigned other companies depending on the situation
Cant wait to have breakfast
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leftovers
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It used to be during Firstborn, marines were first assigned for those specialist roles and then moved up to tactical squads
Alright bro
Oh, so they just scrap the "new marines join the 10 coy" altogether as well.
Furthermore, squads in the Codex Astartes are now defined as "battleline" rather than tactical, "close support" rather than assault, or "fire support" rather than devastator.
As you see, they are asigned to the role. Then move on from there.
Being in the 10 coy as reiver is not the start of the progression, but rather the role being close support.
Man GW did a fuck ton of changes on marines for primaris
Probably to make Horus Heresy have a unique system separated completely from 40k
The infiltrator is a vanguard unit, but they are in the battleline.
Regardless, for me, it see it as they either join the Phobos team or the regular armour team.
Got its just the specialized role they can be assigned to due to their good service in recon
Correct - they want seperate lines, as apparently both because the 30k and 40k teams actually hated each other.
And, of course, to make sure Marines cannot be "duplicated" across the different ranges
(as consumers will need to buy more then)
How fun
(Not)
Indeed, was part of the reason that finally put me off Marines lists
being f*cked around was not nice
Please do not post pictures of me
The funny thing is, even if you agree to help him and side with him, ||he still loses...to an Imperial Assassin, or gettings stomped by Space Wolf(s), in the ending slides||
Average inquisitor
This model isnโt very good lmao
Hes perfect
It looks like itโs a push fit model
alright that goes to the complaint calendar
like it ain't the best model but it's pretty good
It's quite alright for some infantry miniature
What do you mean
i might jsut be spoiled by aos grots
I understand they're very good in killer models but like by warhammer standards this thing is pretty good for what it is
It ain't like an amazing model that's gonna knock people out of the water but like it's an infantry model that is a good looking grot
Kinda like monopose iirc
Just realise, you a lawyer now 
me lawyer?, that's like throwing a match in a tnt factory
What the hell do you mean
i twill only eally accept it if there is liek 20 grots in a unit lmao
40k launch box models usually are, then the varied kit releases later
What the fuck was I told then 
and plus it's from a character i like whose name literally is Emperor Carver Ultimus Esquire III
He does not understand the meaning of the names he just kind of has a grand name for the purpose of it
good ass model
I am still confused
Easy to build stuff
Like you dont even need glue
It's like lego
Nurgle has a lot of those type of models
they are renown for their awkward head connections and difficulty to build
I am experiencing painting over white primer and i am NOT enjoying it
Fuckass shitass fucklord I have to coat the entirety of it in poo brown
This is going to be painful
Ah
Didnt know these were a thing lol
If I find the fucker who purchased all the chaos black primer spray cans I am going to disembowel him live
Wiping sweat off my brow as I look at the 3 cans on my desk
Courage. Do it for the crab ๐ฆ
I primed my defiler with brush on primer
It was horrible
Entry will be denied if I do that lmao
Fuck ass tournament
Eh I mean it's a tournament involving a hobby that heavily involves paint
If you're gonna do it without paint, might as well just use the model bases as datasheet tokens
I am hesitating to replace helbrute by battleline in my list
Helbrute is a good melee glass cannon but uh
Might be overkill considering the defiler is already a violent moving wall
Im definitely not winning secondary mission objectives
Hmm
What if
I replaced the helbrute with yet another daemon engine
LMAOOO
Soyjak potential
Look at the side of box
Looks like we are getting this in gravis armor
I can barely see it
Is it BA
Looks like it with blue on what i think is the helmet
If it's new sculpts for Heavy Intercessors I'd cry with joy
The old sculpts are probably the roughest primaris kit
Its a 3 man so its porbabku heavy intercessor veterans or something
Lmao what the heck is that guy design
Wake up babe, marine with stihl power tool just dropped
I think it kinda looks cool
Iโm quite fond
The handle thing below the barrel looks confusing
Looks like a folded wire stock except it's not
I think itโs to like stop people from barrel stuffing you
Yuh
If there is a hole, there is a way.
Does this mean i shoukd shove my cock up a bolter
I canโt wait for every unit in the Armageddon box to be chronically bad
Follow your calling
what do you mean chronically
Every new units in a launch box is only ever garbage
is that a chapter veteran?
or a gravis sternguard
Itโs space marine with heavy bolter, the heavy bolter he has looks like the one on the side of the Armageddon box
where is it from though? it doesnt look like a normal heavy intercessor
Space marine heroes
ah
what does the armageddon box look like anyways
the militarum one doesnt look so bad
just a bunch of the new vehicles
ofc it's just cadia but whatever
call it armageddon
oh hey wait
see that thing
in the back
it's an old imperial bastion terrain piece
with the middle floor removed
neat
They got the hat again
Does the hat give 1 save?
Bastions are epic, unfortunately just like almost every single fortification, it's legends
you can still use them in HH at least
Yeah but good luck finding a friend who plays HH unironically lmao
but yeah GW stopped making any good terrain pieces. probably because nobody could justify paying like 80$ for a fucking bunker you can make out of foam
i make bunkers in a few hours in blender then print them. they're the easiest terrain pieces to DIY
i do wish this thing was still around
GW had a pretty cool modular bunker system
finding one of these second hand is almost impossible. they sell for hundreds
I like trenches, I think they are cool terrain elements gameplay wise
yeah like linear gameplay?
or more like guided
Wdym
like your units have to go along trench systems
Oh yeah
Ive only attacked trenches so far, never had the chance to hold position yet
i kinda want to make my own custom terrain board with trenches recessed in the ground by having multiple layers of plywood and foam to create depth
I nearly attacked a trench but plage ogryns were clogging it
the plague pit
I wish more people played mortis trials. Shitโs tough with only one other teammate
They were blocking all my firing angles as well
They were attacking it tbh
It was during the big apocalypse game I had, because me and my friends dont have trench terrains at home
It was occupied by space marines, funniest part was they had a dreadnought in it
the dreadnought trying to stay hidden in the trench
Plot twist : he died slapped to death by someone who wasn't even in the trench
Initially the dread wasn't in the trench, he had to cross it but couldn't walk far enough and fell in it instead
It's funny to visualise
Sadly I think Mortis is gimped by both its internal narrative and its map system
Which make some people not being interested into it
The fuck is Morris trials?
Oh yea that was cool
its fine sometimes
i think i still have to beat like 40 of the bastards to finish penances for it
I have the og clip saved somehwere
I could probably find it
was not in a good mood
We have only 4 maps for mortis, which is too few.




