40k-lore-chat

[fervent geode]

The eldar would only do it if there was an Eldar to be saved

[near wasp]

Ok well get rid of plague and yeah

[fervent geode]

Or if one of the orphans was predicted to be John evil killicus chaos

[remote widget]

"Wraithbone plague bomb"

[storm jungle]

Doesnt work. Try again.

[crystal forum]

eldar would bomb the orphanage because one of the orphans might grow up to destroy a craftworld (according to the local crackhead)

[arctic talon]

Who wants to see the most horrific Beil-tan art ever lol

[fervent geode]

Shoot

[arctic talon]

Making them very literal Nazis

[fervent geode]

I hate the Asuryani

[arctic talon]

One moment

Take it down if it’s not allowed

[fervent geode]

It’s gonna be good

[storm jungle]

ı cant believe they killed a future mass-murderer

[rancid cove]

I mean- the Eldars would still do it if it meant bombing 10 zillion childrens to save 1 single eldar

[fervent geode]

They could end up causing it

[crystal forum]

i cant believe they had to kill an entire building full of orphans

[storm jungle]

*Eldar

Also the Imperium do the same shit, so again whataboutism.

[arctic talon]

Real Beil-Tan patriots know they are always in the moral right

[fervent geode]

He might not die and seek revenge and shit anyway

[storm jungle]

Based.

[arctic talon]

💀

Anyways if that image isn’t allowed

Kill it

[storm jungle]

I mean thats an "if" of an "if" lol

basically plot convenience

[rancid cove]

No, no
The Imperium would bomb both equally laughing

[crystal forum]

subtext is for cowards

[fervent geode]

Unfortunately it happened once

[near wasp]

I should really stop procrastinating my notes

[fervent geode]

And it was bad

Like stupid bald man bad

[arctic talon]

I know authors who use subtext, they’re all cowards

[storm jungle]

This is basically Iran

[remote widget]

What if they heard that one of the children produced by one of those orphans will make a book that will give an eldar bonesinger a papercut,

[storm jungle]

"We didnt tomahawk that school"

[storm jungle]

Idk what that means

next 📢

[fervent geode]

[crystal forum]

we merely JDAM'd it smh

[storm jungle]

Shut up orange-voter

[remote widget]

I see we have grumplara today

[storm jungle]

what grump

[crystal forum]

imma slap you

[storm jungle]

im literally watching cyberpunk vids on the side

[fervent geode]

Did the Aeldar end up worsening the fall of the EC in with the whole tarsus thing

[storm jungle]

Speaking of

[arctic talon]

No

The Ec were already fucked

[storm jungle]

They literally did nothing to aid in it

[fervent geode]

True

[storm jungle]

Eldrad LITERALLY WARNED them

and Fulgrim was like

"Uhhhhhhhhh whats chaos"

[normal pulsar]

Peak

[fervent geode]

I just feel like it was a bad idea

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/NOOH7C9UwfM

[crystal forum]

heheheheh cool snake sex blade

[storm jungle]

🗣️

[fervent geode]

It’s fucking Fulgrim he’s not gonna do anything

[remote widget]

Yeah but it was opposite day on the capital ship that day

[storm jungle]

Eldrad's reaction is so fucking funny too

"ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS"

[storm jungle]

no it was bad writing day because we need Fulgrim to fall to chaos

[crystal forum]

guy walks in on a literal fucking snake org and he picks up the nearest item

[storm jungle]

its hilarious how many people say the Laer Blade is chaos AIDS and Fulgrim just doesnt care

[fervent geode]

Vespasian dying was probably just saving him from Isstvan III

[storm jungle]

Vespasian will be missed

[crystal forum]

i cant even say the joke

these things have funny names in GTA5

[remote widget]

" man this evil mist orgy sword keeps telling me to do all those things I reformed my civilisation from doing..maybe I shouldn't.... ooh look a painting made of blood and poop"

[storm jungle]

Peak novel

i read it with everyone saying its disgusting then by the end its just the most generic gore stuff imaginable

[rancid cove]

Name is the same as the slur rightoids (and me) like to call myself

[crystal forum]

fulgrim made me stop reading the series

i hated that book

[normal pulsar]

I had this

[crystal forum]

i dont believe you

[rancid cove]

I'm afraid to type it and get myself in a banneable situation

[crystal forum]

darn

[fervent geode]

One of the best ones

But I suppose

[rancid cove]

Look

[near wasp]

It's a cigaretteio

[fervent geode]

People might not like it

[crystal forum]

if you enjoy reading about lame ass artists being killed off then sure i guess

[arctic talon]

Tau diplomat meets Imperial governor M.42 colorized

[rancid cove]

At first I thought you guys were joking about Jay having constantly bad taste

[fervent geode]

I like to read the Maraviglia

[rancid cove]

But now that I see it for myself

[fervent geode]

And the build up is good

[rancid cove]

I know its the cold truth

[crystal forum]

magog is a city here

i would be confused too

[rancid cove]

Magog makes me think of magacock

[arctic talon]

What

You know what I’m not going to ask

[crystal forum]

mods remove speaking permissions

[rancid cove]

Look they kinda sound the same

[spring cairn]

GOG is at work

do not let them sell games

[rancid cove]

IT LOOKS LIKE THE ABBREVIATION TO IT

SURELY IM NOT ALONE IN THIS RIGHT

https://tenor.com/view/angry-annoyed-gif-24725658

[fervent geode]

Your alone, now face the music

[crystal forum]

the buildup is the most predictable thing ever though, you're constantly thinking about how all these pricks will die the moment fulgrim turns traitor

[fervent geode]

[fervent geode]

I wasn’t

[crystal forum]

at least in the opening trilogy you dont know who will survive

[fervent geode]

I figured more would be corrupted

[rancid cove]

"Pricks will die the moment fulgrim turn traitor"

majority doesnt die

[crystal forum]

like if you never heard of sinderman you would not guess he's a major player in the heresy

[crystal forum]

they pretty much all die??

tf you on about

[fervent geode]

Who are we referring to dying here again

[crystal forum]

the remembrancers

[fervent geode]

Oh yeah them

[crystal forum]

the chud gang

[normal pulsar]

The goat

[fervent geode]

Most of them are dead

[rancid cove]

Thouhht you were talking about like the EC characters

Cause like

[fervent geode]

I figured more of them would be corrupted but yeah most died

[crystal forum]

like half the book is about those remembrancers

[rancid cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1496850846078599168/Tumblr_l_224605963878433.gif

[crystal forum]

they're so forgettable

[rancid cove]

I rlly like the remembrancers

[fervent geode]

Kynska and D’Angelus were rememberable enough

[crystal forum]

i was just waiting for them to inevitably die

and the book called fulgrim barely has him in it

i wanted to know more about the fucking guy named fulgrim not some randos

would have been nice to see his motivations for joining chaos but nah it's never shown in first person

we just have to infer from his gay ass behavior

[fervent geode]

A little bastard told me that his Primarch book is better for that

She said that Fulgrim is more about the legion’s fall

[normal pulsar]

I ordered it

[fervent geode]

Which I agree with

[fervent geode]

He doesn’t really have much motivation

It was the Laer Blade and all

[crystal forum]

that just makes it worse

[fervent geode]

It twisted his mind

[fervent geode]

Yeah Plot Device

[crystal forum]

he's a deeply unsympathetic character

even angron has a better backstory

[fervent geode]

I mean

Have you read the Primarch book

[crystal forum]

of fulgrim?

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

no

[fervent geode]

It’s better in showing his inherent flaws or smth

That allowed the plot device to snare him

But this is a 2nd hand opinion

[crystal forum]

it kinda sucks because he's shown as a chill guy before the blade

[fervent geode]

Yeah he really was

But his arrogance and perfectionism were still hiding beneath

[crystal forum]

if he's going to have a sympathetic origin then his fall should also be sympathetic imo

you cant have him turn asshole for no reason

if he was always an asshole then sure it works if he just acts the way he is

[fervent geode]

His fall is one of the more ass ones imo

[crystal forum]

truly

if they could manage to give angron the chainaxe wielding barbarian a decent backstory then fulgrim could have one too

[vagrant fox]

Was the scene with Fulgrim and the pear of anguish pre or post corruption I forget

post innit

That's the only thing I really remember about the whole ordeal, other than the laer blade

[hallow saddle]

the fulgrim primarch novel is written by josh reynolds so its great

HH fulgrim novel is kinda sloppy and shit

the 40k fabius bile novels are the best EC ones around

[storm jungle]

its pretty funny tbh

Insidious Fulgrimian backshots

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[rancid cove]

Idk about the bisexual part

[normal pulsar]

I can see him being bi

[daring creek]

black templar fans when the emperor was actually brown

Ya know

if it weren't for the arabs, we wouldn't have 6 7

[normal pulsar]

Ahahahhahaha

Never thought about that

[dapper gyro]

They would rename the chapter to Blacked Templar.

[rancid cove]

I can't see him liking someone like that, is what I mean.

[crystal forum]

emperor not being white is like americans depicting jesus as a white guy

(we all know he was chinese)

[arctic talon]

*Korean

[spare osprey]

I wanna say he more than likely fucked around during his literal dozens of millenia of being alive.

But Sensei were scrubbed and he made test tube babies.
Who knows.

[normal pulsar]

I mean,when he was young

Caveman emperor

[vagrant fox]

akshually J-boy was Japanese

[daring creek]

At somepoint the emperor was head of a chinese dynasty

[storm jungle]

He was on the Island so

[arctic talon]

He was only there for the hunting down of humans with guns

[storm jungle]

Nah he 100% partook in that shit but then went "okay im bored now"

[arctic talon]

He didn’t know about the sex stuff, 70% of what went on that island was legal/j

[arctic talon]

I’m making a joke smh

[storm jungle]

📸

[normal pulsar]

Ayo

[arctic talon]

https://youtu.be/9x3YZ5pnF8k?si=3cZ8vAamEjevrUIx

This but with the emperor

[vagrant fox]

I'll believe it

He's got to be bored of that stuff after a few k years

[crystal forum]

we know for a fact that frank doesnt diddle kids

[plush mason]

if you take the many shamen fusing together origin as still canon then he technically is because he has male and female souls making him up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Rx0mgLObU

this is gona be good

[crystal forum]

i do not want to shit on all tomorrows at all but it's interesting how a subjectively mediocre story could have such a fascinating premise

[opaque coyote]

how would they possibly make it worse

the qu transformed people into cubes

they gonna transform people into dildos or something???

[plush mason]

they aint, they just do what adric does and go over other grimdark settings

[opaque coyote]

ah

eto

bleh

[crystal forum]

the guy who wrote all tomorrows is still working on his remake iirc

it's been like 5 years

[plush mason]

that implies the Qu didnt do that

and with the Qu i dont think there is anything they didnt do at some point

[vagrant fox]

Kosemen didn't like it much either in hindsight but he made it at 19

Redux is coming along idk about specifics

[crystal forum]

yeah thats why he's rewriting it

it really does read like a story written with a great initial idea but without the tools of an experienced author

[vagrant fox]

Apparently he was very far in 2022 so I wonder if he's adding a lot more to it

[crystal forum]

at this point i expect an 800 page novel if he's been working on it full time all along

anyways here's an unrelated pic of islamic pilgrims fighting over who gets to kiss the magic rock

[vagrant fox]

Na I've no real expectations other than to be entertained

[winged jacinth]

Guys they made a way to TAS space marine 2

[opaque coyote]

Invincible Show spoilers
||https://youtu.be/qGZibeU8Nio?si=qmJwH4ed5k2pxJnJ||

||"Maybe Thaddeus let Thragg kill him on purpose."||

Also Thaddeus is basically Nemesis Prime

[spare osprey]

I will paint my Techpriests blue...
And they shall be French.

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-gif-19896718

[nocturne crest]

So odd question, but how well would the Flesh Courts do if they found themselves on a planet set in 40k?

*Flesh Eater courts.

[wary fulcrum]

Pretty badly

Though

Now I think of it

If they got caught they’d do badly but they themselves
Think they’d be loyal imperials

So long as the tithe was paid they’d be fine

[solid horizon]

A krieg main friend kitbashed his commander as napoleon, and his knights are named napoleon 1 and 3, and french flag colored

[spare osprey]

Beautiful.

[rancid cove]

Trying out new names for me warband since I've changed their lore a bit
What do we think "the Accursed Cohort" sounds? Maybe Infernal instead of Accursed?

[rose thorn]

“Hmm I wanna add some more stuff to my city of sigmar idea, maybe look at some fantasy city writing tips to help”

”yeah you should base your fantasy writing off of real world countries and make the main race decide the traits”

[arctic talon]

First one is good

second one is what

[rancid cove]

Nice way to overshadow me
-# damn you...

[rose thorn]

The main idea is that like “oh yeha your city is mostly orcs so you should be focused about orc culture”

[arctic talon]

I mean

thats fine?

A city dominated by one demographic group tends to have more of that culture

[rose thorn]

Yeah but like, they use Skyrim as the example lmao

[rancid cove]

That's likw... how irl places work

[arctic talon]

Accursed Cohort sounds good

[rose thorn]

I’m just saying I’m tired of every generic fantasy tip telling me to recreate Europe

[rancid cove]

The dominative culture will have more cultural impact on a place

[near wasp]

What's your warbands stick

[arctic talon]

then recreate asia

smh

[languid meadow]

You've met me at a very Japanese time of my life

[arctic talon]

or fucking whatever you want

[arctic talon]

ostron or random colony or corpus

call it

[rose thorn]

LMAO, my city is based off a Peru thing idk if I wanna recreate Peru

[arctic talon]

Steal shit from Peru

or its history

[rose thorn]

I mainly just want something to throw into my city that would be cool like excelsis’ spear of excelsis

The city produces coffee and infuses it with aqshy magic via civets eating it like that expensive irl coffee

[rancid cove]

Early accounts of foundations were at the end of the Heresy and start of Scouring- where a many marines of their legion left to form up the warband for a myriad of reasons (such as not wanting to associate with it, exiled or shit like that)
Iron Warriors were the biggest majority, took control and shaped the warband to form some concept of ranking, hierarchy and "loyalty" to the cause: revenge and destroy everything that stands in their way.
Nowadays they're massive even by big warband standards (nothing like Red Corsairs or Black Legion tho) chaos undivded and recruit/accept anyone from all over the galaxy

Their main shtick is obviously ground warfare. They do any strategy necessary to win but are suckers for either battles of attrition or lightning attacks

Currently writing up that they're tied to the worship of a homebrew deity I'm making up which tbh its just gonna be reinvented Satan

[rose thorn]

Actually @arctic talon you made a great point I should put the city on archipelago

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-oguri-uma-musume-umamusume-squishy-gif-14372802265437813043

[near wasp]

The Jagged Crown

[rancid cove]

[solid horizon]

I'd suggest narrowing down their gimmick to something more specific

For now it sounds too vague

[rancid cove]

Wym?

[daring creek]

Crazy

[solid horizon]

Well, for now it's a reskin of black legion

[daring creek]

RIKA EMOTE

[spare osprey]

My baby's first homebrew blob is literally just whatever I think is cool from the Romantic languages.

-# Though, I am missing anything involving Portuguese or Romanian as I am an uneducated lump.

[solid horizon]

Also wdym by "recruit anyone"

[near wasp]

If you do end up using the Jagged Crown as the name for the warband might I suggest a feudalistic system for organization. With each marine landed and having a population of serfs for themselves to maintain and us as they see fit

[solid horizon]

The currency of warbands are slaves and hostages (for their soul) so most of them tend not to accept literally everyone

Unless you mean like astartes

[rancid cove]

Your legion/chapter of origin is not something that will ruin the chances of joining them. But already fully built astartes who join them are remodelled to fit the warbands views and needs by the systematic leaders so they can fit

But they take from a myriad of worlds they have managed to conquer to make their own

[solid horizon]

But then the problem witj a globalist warband is that you gotta remember chaos marines are well... chaotic people

[rancid cove]

Astartes, yes

But they do use human cultists too

[solid horizon]

Ah yes cultists, my favorite living cash pennies

[rancid cove]

Was thinking of making a system similar to that, yes

[rancid cove]

Most of them are just fodder but the warband sees some uses to the ones that prove useful. If they manage to impress the higher ups they take them to receive blessings, augmentations and mutations and make them into elite soldiers

[solid horizon]

Chaos marines are usually insane or bitter folks and tend to be quite impredictible, in the context of a massive warband, the band is prone to devastating mutinies

[rancid cove]

Anyone else that is too weak to endure either dies in service or trying to prove themswlves

[solid horizon]

Where do they get sufficient ressources that they can improve cultists despite their large effective ?

[rancid cove]

They are squashed by specialized executioners and the warband is divided into multiple smaller warbands and companies, kept in line constantly by paying their respective respects and "taxes" for the higher ups

[solid horizon]

How do you ensure there is proper discipline ?

[rancid cove]

Still thinking about this a bit. But they do have links to the dark mechanicum and constant raiding of loyalist, xenos and other chaos warbands territory whenever they are able to

[near wasp]

Honor duels probably, or quests, treat them like knights of old

That's my suggestion

[solid horizon]

Achieving discipline especially in a large warband without an extremely trusted and well organized MP is as easy as shooting a fly with a shotgun

[rancid cove]

Early indoctrination ritual at entry, torture, constant executions of people who fall in line
Promises of success, blood and loot in battle. Constant meetups every X cycles to ensure everything is up to order.

[solid horizon]

Call me a nerd or a chud but

One of the advantages of tabletop for lorewriting

Is that you actually manage an army

So you have a better idea of what it's like and how stuff is managed

[near wasp]

Marines are basically knights anyways so I'd just use the same laws that governed knights.

Even then the system is quiet good at having rulers be replaced.

[solid horizon]

For example in a large warband I wouldnt dedicate enhancements for cultists who are more or less cash money for dark mech drivebys, I'd allocate a part of my forces to renegade guards who are owners of their own gear

[opaque coyote]

Me when you manage an army in a tabletop game all about armies going against each other

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

[solid horizon]

Real

[rancid cove]

What also happens is the fact the warband has started these rituals since their foundation and did it time and time again by each millennia, since then multiple rebellions have indeed happened so ofc it doesnt work all the time
Its how the current leader got to power. By dividing and conquering, eliminating the half that didnt meet her expectations or that refused to surrender

[solid horizon]

Chaos divided lol

[normal pulsar]

We love a bit of Chaos

[rancid cove]

Nosferrus is a born manipulator due to her slight psychic awakening

Plus chaos undivided do divide a lot

[solid horizon]

So I assume you're going more for the large militia style of warband rather than the usual traditional cult/crew/gang style

[rancid cove]

Yes, they are functionally an actual army style and less of uhhhh, Talos from the NL trilogy

[solid horizon]

Yeah so I'd suggest stepping away from ritualistic terms and adjectives in the warband's name and going for something really simple

They seem a lot more focused on building a discipline system than anything else

Which is what most warbands usually lack

Often resulting in their demise

[rancid cove]

The early idea of the warband and even of the current leader is that even in chaos there must be order
Their usual conflicts isn't about raiding for resources, its to conquer

They dont invade worlds just kill and dip

They kill to take and control

[solid horizon]

So uh do they have any iconic creature or weapon ?

[solid horizon]

If they are not there for ressources I'd suggest ditching the well maintained cultists idea

[rancid cove]

I was still thinking about this. Thought of making them use xenos creatures from the main world they chose as "homeworld"

[solid horizon]

Name usually comes from heraldry

[rancid cove]

They are there for the resources- but not in the "steal whats on the planet and move on". They usually take the entire planet for themselves
They dont invade forge worlds just to take the weapons, they take the entire planet for themselves and forces the workers to slave away and make weapons for them

[solid horizon]

Something with sword or hammer could fit

Since those are part of the discipline symbolics

[solid horizon]

So it's not ressources, it's land

Ressources would imply building infrastructure there or occupying already existing ones

Or scavenge

Nvm I didn't read the last part properly

Yeah well taking over a forgeworld ain't exactly easy either especially if you're mostly infantry based

[rancid cove]

Its just an example

[solid horizon]

Yeah I know

Do they have a homeworld ?

[rancid cove]

Yeah, it's called Tenebris (really original I know)

[solid horizon]

I could see these guys on a castle planet with their queen sitting on the throne

[rancid cove]

The queen in question:

[normal pulsar]

👀🫪

[solid horizon]

Aww hell naahh where are her humongous gigantic megalicious enormous

Horns

[rancid cove]

I'm more fond of female marines, but not the ones you'd see on reddit
I like lore accurate sized female marines

[rose thorn]

Did

I say Peru?

I meant Indonesia

[solid horizon]

Doesn't matter, a leader deserves mega horns on their helmet

[rancid cove]

I prefer no horns

[solid horizon]

Assert dominance by size and presence

Krannon had big angular horns

Ahriman has big magical horns

Typhus has that one tall ferocious stinky horn

Huron has horns on his hand

[rancid cove]

The thing with horns is that Nosferrus thinks its a liability
She's a warrior constantly on the field as well, she's not the type of leader who lays back

Its a liability in combat

[rose thorn]

Good shit easy kitbash

[rancid cove]

Especially for a duelist

[solid horizon]

Horns to build presence is essential for a leader

[shadow chasm]

Kharn looks like an angry ripped Hatsune Miku

where is his horn

[rancid cove]

Was not fond of the horned look

[solid horizon]

A csm with no horns might as well be your average dude

[rancid cove]

That was not planned tbh

Her design was made up of just pieces of cool armor I liked

[solid horizon]

He's a berzerk, they all have those conan horns

[rose thorn]

He has tusks

[solid horizon]

Have you tried tusks ?

[rancid cove]

I was thinking of giving her terminator armor tusks

[solid horizon]

Horns are like hair

[rancid cove]

but she has Tartaros armor

[solid horizon]

Tusks are like beard

[rose thorn]

I think it’s a good design you don’t need horns lmao

[solid horizon]

No horns no chaos

Unless you're a warpsmith

[rose thorn]

Your pfp doenst have horns

[solid horizon]

It's an android

[rancid cove]

I did think of horns on her terminator but it would look weird on the tartaros pattern

[hallow saddle]

cant really do horns on terminator armor anyway cause the head is so recessed

[rancid cove]

Like yeah horns are no fitting trough that roof and the tusks would have to be small

[solid horizon]

My regular chaos dudes have horns and tusks

[rancid cove]

Also

[solid horizon]

Krannon style horns

[rancid cove]

I could send a photo of Nosferrus

but it would have to be cropped

[solid horizon]

A lot of horns go on the forehead

[rancid cove]

cause in the original art her yaddas are out

[solid horizon]

Why

[rancid cove]

She's posing nude

[solid horizon]

Also if it's not indiscrete

[rancid cove]

Nosferrus on her younging days (this is way before even her psychic awakening)

[solid horizon]

May I ask something ?

[rancid cove]

yes

[solid horizon]

Why is she a woman

Cultist turned into marine or marine turned into woman ?

[rancid cove]

idk i just felt like it
More keen of fem OC's

[solid horizon]

Ok I get it but

It's gotta be explained because it is VERY gimmicky

[rancid cove]

I was thinking of changing her backstory a bit for a marine turned woman tbh
But originally she was a cultist turned marine

Born in one of the planets the warband conquered, taken in for some other purpose; Proved herself worthy in the trials somehow- dark mechanicum and the warpsmith made experiments which created Nosferrus

[hallow saddle]

its pretty easy to get away with with chaos

[solid horizon]

I mean marines know how to turn hoomies into astartes

[hallow saddle]

ascended mortal

[solid horizon]

Warpsmiths have no involvement there btw unless she is a heavly cybernetic daemonhost

Warpsmiths are chaos mechanics

[rancid cove]

its some things about the specific warpsmith have been trained under the dark mechanicum (who had also knowledge in biologis shit), so they combined their expertise

[solid horizon]

I forgot what their apothecaries are named

[hallow saddle]

apothecary i think

ngl

[rancid cove]

the apothecary did have involvement on it

[hallow saddle]

apart from legion specific stuff like WE

[solid horizon]

Yeah yeah I don't doubt that, but warpsmith practically exclusively work with machinery

[hallow saddle]

have a sorceror do it. or self-ascension by chaotic deed

[solid horizon]

God I hate typing on my phone

[solid horizon]

Yeah that's a better idea

[rancid cove]

Oki oki

I was thinking of making her ascension to astartes being more of genetic experiment gone right

rather than

warp

[solid horizon]

You wouldnt ask a mechanic to manage your transition for example

[rancid cove]

I mean, mechanics are very known for messing with...

[solid horizon]

Chaos marines DO know how to turn cultists into marines

[rancid cove]

that car word that is just like the slur.

[hallow saddle]

i think warp magic is honestly the only way to do it

[rancid cove]

I know but- woman

[solid horizon]

Human is human

[rancid cove]

what if

Man who wanted to transition but turned astartes

then transitioned later

[solid horizon]

Imagine if my cult bothered about what was your gender before turning you into a sexless genderless irradiated skelly in a servo suit

[daring creek]

cooking.

[solid horizon]

I think the symbolic of a woman turning astartes is more powerful because not only it keeps the symbolics of transition

But it also makes her a leading female character

Without being a man in the first place

[daring creek]

I mean with chaos.....Uh. Morphing your body would require worship of the gods probably. Which immediately becomes an issue probably.

[rancid cove]

What about- biological experiment using woman that was bound to fail- but somehow warp got in the way and saved her

[solid horizon]

Keep it more simple it doesn't need to be very complex imo

Tho you could invent rumors going about her being an experiment

For extra funnies

[rancid cove]

which comes a problem since shes not a worshipper herself, shes more of a "I have outdone myself so fucking good the gods gave me a pass"

[rancid cove]

Oh that could be cool

[daring creek]

Interesting

[rancid cove]

yeah she doesnt purposefully seeks out the chaos gods

[daring creek]

Have chaos gods ever given a pass before

[rancid cove]

Abby

[daring creek]

I mean the gods*

[daring creek]

oh.

abby is short for...Abaddon yeah?

[rancid cove]

Abaddon doesn't really actively seek to appease them

[solid horizon]

Yes

[rancid cove]

yuh

[arctic talon]

yeah people call abbadon abby lol

[solid horizon]

Easier to type

[daring creek]

Cute name :)

[rancid cove]

is it abbadon or abaddon?

[solid horizon]

It's abby

[normal pulsar]

dd

[solid horizon]

The lion does not concern with the amount of b and d

[daring creek]

abba dabba do

[rancid cove]

I am correct

[rancid cove]

You spelled it wrong

larper

chud

die

[daring creek]

a bad don.

He would make a terrible mafia boss.

[solid horizon]

Ezequiel, Ezekiel or Ezekyle ?

I've always read Ezekyle

[rancid cove]

Its Ezekyle thats because google added an automatic translate thing

that you cant disable

[hallow saddle]

in english its ezekyle for sure

[daring creek]

wtf

[normal pulsar]

Ezekyle

[daring creek]

thats such bullshit why

[rancid cove]

AI

thats why

[daring creek]

AI disinformation is so beautiful

[hallow saddle]

but really in 40k its abaddon the despoiler

[rancid cove]

same shitwith instagram adding AI translate features that translates audio in real time

and even tries to mimic the persons voice

[daring creek]

I hate that

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-arthur-arthur-nightingale-warframe-1999-1999-gif-4632106320046100632

[hallow saddle]

u probably get instanuked if u call him ezekyle in 40k

[solid horizon]

Reminds me how we had to autotranslate datasheets for my young brother in law

He was playing chaos knights 👁️ 👄 👁️

[rancid cove]

"What. Did you. Just call. ME?!"

https://tenor.com/ocWhGrAGIHC.gif

[hallow saddle]

"babe, no. stop"

[solid horizon]

Horus talon slap

[arctic talon]

please don't tell me the Knight Desecrator had some horrific translation

[normal pulsar]

I mean the desp is just a title

[solid horizon]

Warhound stalker thing

[arctic talon]

oh

LOL

[solid horizon]

Wardog

[rancid cove]

He meant more in that only close friends called him by his first name

and there are no friends anymore

[hallow saddle]

his first name is from when he was sons of horus

that life is gone now

hes abaddon the despoiler of the black legion

[rancid cove]

yeah he completely removed any trace of the legions origin

they no longer associate with that past life

especially Abaddon who distanced himself from being associated with Horus

[solid horizon]

🗣️ 🔥 TRAQUEUR DE CHIEN DE GUERRE

Never turn on autotranslate

[rancid cove]

guys

[hallow saddle]

the despoiler is his epithet, warmaster is his title

[wary fulcrum]

I wonder how many even know that’s his name

[rancid cove]

very serious question

[spare osprey]

Very serious answer.

[rancid cove]

I am home now and Im buying my first ever minis
Which one do I buy...
MKVI or MKIV

[solid horizon]

Dread ?

[hallow saddle]

not mark IV they are old

mk 6 are new, mk 3 are new

[solid horizon]

Beak

[hallow saddle]

mark 4 are goofy and old and way smaller than the newer ones

when theyre re-done itll be peak tho

[spare osprey]

Beakies or Pseudo-Primaris...

[solid horizon]

Beakies

It's better on firstborns

Easier to paint as well

Paint wont get in the slits or there are none

It's easy to clog grooves when you're a beginner

[rocky gale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/disgust-disgusted-emoji--k01KQ0N9T7Y0R01MCKYZ72TZEFX

[arctic talon]

MK4 is my favorite heresy era armor lol

[hallow saddle]

same but the models are bad by todays standards

small & skinny

[rocky gale]

Just wait, they'll get a HH update eventually

[hallow saddle]

the mk 6 are pretty forgiving and good scale

[rancid cove]

@solid horizon do you know any wartablegames discount codes?

[solid horizon]

MkIII supremacy, look like a freigh train or go home

[arctic talon]

MK2 is the most common armor during the heresy

[solid horizon]

They are on the top of the page

[arctic talon]

It was also the second worse

lol

[solid horizon]

There is always a code

[rancid cove]

oh im blind as a bat

[solid horizon]

Current one is uh

April7 I think

[daring creek]

whys he swinging that anyway

[solid horizon]

It's always month and a number

[rancid cove]

only 2 dollar discount

[rocky gale]

Played the best game of his life and still lost

[rancid cove]

killing myself

[solid horizon]

Try to avoid what's originally forgeworld btw, it may look cool as fuck but the cast has aged

[solid horizon]

Better than nothing

[spare osprey]

Yeah, I'd go with beakies.

[solid horizon]

You get discount points each order

And there is always a coupon

You can always buy official as well

[rancid cove]

time to pay on paypal now

[solid horizon]

For four times the price

Payment is a bit unusual btw

[spare osprey]

What is Forge World anyhow?
Is it like... a GW extension?

[hallow saddle]

yeah

[rancid cove]

wym?

[solid horizon]

Once it's done on the site you will have to wait to receive a mail that says the guy received your payment

Later you will get a mail saying he's preparing your order

[hallow saddle]

it was like a GW offshoot that made niche models

but also made the horus heresy game

[solid horizon]

Finally he will send you a shipping follower thing

[hallow saddle]

but its expanded to be the specialist games studio now

FW did resin models, low production runs, particularly huge models

[solid horizon]

An order takes from 1 to 3 weeks

Time is the price to pay for such a huge price discount over GW stuff

[rancid cove]

I confirmed the order, but how do I pay? I know its paypal but
like
Do I just copy their email, put it on paypal and send the money?

[solid horizon]

He will ask you for payment on PayPal

Ying Wang in pictograms

[spare osprey]

Neat. Probably not bound to browse them, though.
All I ever saw out of FW was the $2k half of a Titan.

[solid horizon]

Me and my friends usually call him Magos Wang for obvious reasons lol

[arctic talon]

They’ve discontinued a lot of their stuff

Nowadays

[hallow saddle]

yeah FW as it was is kinda wound down

[arctic talon]

Forgeworld China

[rancid cove]

lmao

[arctic talon]

My favorite

[rancid cove]

alr then i gotta wait for them to contact me

First minis ever

kinda nervous

[hallow saddle]

they used to make campaign books to sell their models but the main writer died a few years back

[rancid cove]

ooo

[solid horizon]

Adrenaline of plastic crack

[hallow saddle]

poggers

welcome to the hobby

ur gonna have a blast

[solid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/freaks-one-of-us-accepting-little-people-party-gif-5441857

[spare osprey]

Remember, the point is to have fun.
Minis are just cool little dudes.

[rancid cove]

I know

I decided to paint them like Blood Angels

[solid horizon]

Ah I see, a HH beginner classic

[rancid cove]

Ill wait till they get here, ill assemble them and only after that is done that ill buy the paint and brushes necessary to paint

[rancid cove]

my no.1 fav legion

[solid horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1486537945010667570/MR.gif

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-drink-anime-food-red-drink-soda-gif-25407485

Drink up, lads.

[solid horizon]

Hold my agrax

[rancid cove]

also

unsure now that i changed my warbands lore if ill keep the current symbol

i still think its a banger

[solid horizon]

It's a good choice because blood angels rely on decals a lot less than other legions

(the magos does not provide decals)

[spare osprey]

I smell Night Dorks.
-# I like it!

[rancid cove]

ah i thought id have to download them and print them myself, good to know

[wary fulcrum]

Sort of but other way around

They made models because the books were successful

They did the Badab War as a test run because they didn’t think marine Vs marine would sell

They got that wrong

[rancid cove]

I think they forgot how marines are the no.1 sales for 40k

so marines vs marines just means a BUNCH of marines

[solid horizon]

Forgeworld could let you build pre melta huron

One of these days when my army is settled I'll get myself one for my non playable collection

(when ill have money, so in 40000 years)

[hallow saddle]

i should have just said they used to make the imperial armour books which are really highly regarded

[rancid cove]

Its because the original version of their lore they originated with Night Lords

second version just makes the symbol lose a bit of meaning

[hallow saddle]

cause theres some straight up hobby ones that arent campaign books at all

[vagrant fox]

Shenlong will rise again

[rancid cove]

@solid horizon Ideas?

[solid horizon]

See the dark angels logo ?

Replace birb by bat

From the distance this one might ressemble the necron ankh

Guyz

Should I use the money I didn't use for a 3rd defiler for this 👉🏻 👈🏻

[rancid cove]

So a sword with the dragon wings?

[rose thorn]

Getting recasts of forgeworld models is moral

[solid horizon]

Yes

Especially daemon engines imo

[rose thorn]

Even tho I think this thing is ass ugly

[solid horizon]

No one ever sells their bloodslaughterer

GW sells it for like 120 bucks or something

[rose thorn]

The don’t even sell it anymore

[solid horizon]

(it's barely as tough as a helstalker)

[solid horizon]

https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/shop/Khorne-Blood-Slaughterer-Impaler?srsltid=AfmBOorb3T8vsu7ogEEhje4qGhC3E_3RH5uf2RqIxD5FKCBhj_Po8eO3

[rose thorn]

What the fuck why

[solid horizon]

115 buckd

For a light vehicle

[rose thorn]

OH HH

[solid horizon]

It's both 40k and HH

Forgeworld daemon engines are like that

[hallow saddle]

and in the past all HH models were forge world lmaoooooo

even infantry

[solid horizon]

Yup

[hallow saddle]

so ppl were paying $$$$$

[solid horizon]

Forgeworld came up with HH tabletop

[rose thorn]

Side note

I should be a recast of this guy for AOS

I always forget I have a khrone army

Genuinely who ever bought this

[solid horizon]

Idk

Ugly ass daemons

[storm jungle]

Bros about to take a wicked sideways shit

[solid horizon]

Nurglic fart

To pierce your eardrums

[hallow saddle]

i guess FW is marked up even more in dollars as well cause its not like theyre gonna keep many of them in like a US warehouse

so unless ur in the UK ur pretty much cooked to fuck

[arctic talon]

The only arknights character who speaks Hokkien is a fucking rice farmer

what did they mean by this

[hallow saddle]

deffo just get the recast

[solid horizon]

Both are resin anyways lmao

[rose thorn]

Know what, these fuck

[solid horizon]

Oh yeahhhhh

[rose thorn]

I never seen these before

[arctic talon]

They'll get a plastic update eventually

They're super expensive

[solid horizon]

Dark mechanicum old ass dreadnoughts

[hallow saddle]

what are those?

[arctic talon]

which is why you've never seen them lol

they're Mechanicum battle automata

[hallow saddle]

kool

[spare osprey]

I keep forgetting the Dark Mechanicum is a thing.

[arctic talon]

Vorax Class battle automata

[solid horizon]

Models based on an extremely old model

[arctic talon]

those are both flavors of mechanicum/mechanicus

they're around in 40k still since they got mentioned in Warzone Caradon

[solid horizon]

They tried to kill john land raider with one of these

[arctic talon]

lol

They're "hunter killer" automata

[hallow saddle]

i still have a dreadclaw to finish assembling which doesnt fit together and its just a fuckin dogshit model

[arctic talon]

which means they hunt things down

and kill them

very creative naming archmagos

[hallow saddle]

so i need to take quite big slices of resin out to fuckin fit it together

its demented

[spare osprey]

Nothing will top the naming bullfuckery of the Iron Hands.

[solid horizon]

Vorax automata aka crusader robot

[arctic talon]

the mechanicus tried to use them to kill Typhus on Metalica

it failed

[spare osprey]

Blood hittin' the "'Eeey" stance.

[solid horizon]

Vorax always fails to do shit

Maybe they should change their assassins

[vagrant fox]

They should've gacha''d a better accent

[solid horizon]

To something else than the fucking easy to spot nefarious mantis ed 209

[hallow saddle]

i like that ive been browsing the FW site for years and theres still models which ive never seen before

[solid horizon]

Forgeworld magic

[arctic talon]

mfw rice farmer dialect

[solid horizon]

I wish a lot of the FW models got plastic newer versions

[arctic talon]

someday

[hallow saddle]

the FW legion contemptor dreads were legit great

[solid horizon]

Decimator is still very popular, and GW seems to be on a iron warrior theme streak

Alas GW doesn't sell the other weapon options for these guts

Nurgle daemons also have a huge range of FW stuff to get in plastic

[hallow saddle]

getting custodes in plastic is legit huge tbh

[vagrant fox]

Does it also count as another coastal effete dialect

or however you say

[arctic talon]

its not considereed effete, its def considered to be merchanty/farmer-y as a dialect though lol

The accent for mandarin from that region is considered "soft/girly"

lol

[vagrant fox]

wack

I feel half the dialects I hear of are considered kind of, you know

[arctic talon]

Which is really funny bcs Hokkien is seen as "rough" lol

[arctic talon]

lmao

[vagrant fox]

Then again the vibes I'm getting is that it mostly applies to coastal accents

[arctic talon]

tbh Hokkien + fujian accent is def considered costal

for dialect + fujian is costal

its just that it had a ton of farming there historically

prolly why the dominant mandarin accent in Taiwan is a variation of the Fujian one due to distance lol

[vagrant fox]

Makes sense, I've decided Hokkien are my Chinese brethren. I've a rural accent in two of the languages I speak lmbo

also, on a different note

This slaps hard

[arctic talon]

Yes it does

its my favorite of the comics lol

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/refrain-terminology-necron-gif-12777351450238499638

new warframe trailer got me feeling stuff

goes hard

[arctic talon]

shame most of the people who can teach Hokkien are like Hitler tier racists online

[vagrant fox]

It's the best one of the comics I've read, but, none of the Cyberpunk comics I've read so far have been bad as of yet

[vagrant fox]

Just like my extended family poggers, rural folk stay the same

Is that an Ash protoframe in the trailer

[languid meadow]

yeah

[arctic talon]

Ash and Garuda protoframe yeah

[vagrant fox]

Maybe I have to get over my pavlovian response to fall asleep playing Warframe to rep my main

[languid meadow]

Sirius and Orion look wonderful

honestly better than I was hoping

both having knight vibes is so peak...

[vagrant fox]

Kinda zooted

I played nuke frames too much when grinding for the dojo I gotta get over that

[languid meadow]

also glad that they're separate frames and not another equinox

[near wasp]

I can't wait to get off work so I can get zooted and continue carrying my boss through space marine 2

[vagrant fox]

Equinox is goated tho

But probably better as a one time thing

[rancid cove]

this looks like dogshit

Also tried spacing it out

[solid horizon]

You made it batman symbol that's why

[rancid cove]

bitch how do i make it better then

[storm jungle]

"batman symbol"

thats literally already the default night lords symbol

[rancid cove]

yeah but change bat with skull

[storm jungle]

Change the dark angels sword a bit, its 1:1

[timid pasture]

What would barman think of the night Lords?

[solid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-batman-tv-batmantv-tvbatman-tv-batman-gif-13766209448577399039

[rancid cove]

extremists

[storm jungle]

psychopaths

what else lmao

[solid horizon]

Make the wings spread out

And bony looking

[storm jungle]

Yeah it should be something that looks good on a pauldron too

[rancid cove]

Maybe I use one of these?

[solid horizon]

No

[storm jungle]

Hmmm still looks too good-guy

lemme have a try

[solid horizon]

Dont use loyalist cartoon swords

Pick a more stylized evil sword

I'm not on pc right now else I'd have done it

[rancid cove]

its lowkey hard to find a symbol of evil sword

[solid horizon]

Lemme grab sum paper

[rancid cove]

i found this mf

[solid horizon]

Still not it

[storm jungle]

very close

lemme try something

[rancid cove]

i am sincerely this 🤏 close to just sticking to the the previous symbol i had]

[heady rivet]

I want to cut my stomach open like they're taking the bomb outta Paz' cooch in MGSV

[storm jungle]

thanks for that reminder

now shut the fuck up

[spare osprey]

Of all the fucking disembowelments.

[rancid cove]

pngfied aurum

[heady rivet]

Thank you Kojima for letting us hear the bomb insertion in graphic detail

Very cool

[storm jungle]

Me when CIA guys do CIA warcrimes

[solid horizon]

Was thinking something kinda like that

Might want to give it a more triangular stance tho

[heady rivet]

Shoutout to Skull Face giving a speech he prepared for 9 years to a guy who didnt know what he was talking about, didnt care, and wasnt even the intended audience. Fantastic filler game

[storm jungle]

thats pretty good

[storm jungle]

Correct.

[rancid cove]

Lowkey goes pretty hard

[solid horizon]

Fucking evil dark angel logo

[near wasp]

Lol corswain in tears

[rancid cove]

but tbh i might keep the symbol i already have since it grew on me + its already on the sketch the artist i commissioned

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585496463807873034/1461407676331196702/colors.gif

[heady rivet]

https://x.com/glubo11/status/1889733823060955256

Dahlia🇧🇷 commissions open (@glubo11)

how i feel when im commissioning someone and ask them to change something i didnt like

X · Feb 12, 2025, 5:50 PM

[solid horizon]

Sword represents discipline and sovereignty and spread wings represent captured land

Heraldry's got to be symbolic else where is the point in that

[spare osprey]

Kojima is one of many big names that reminds me that nothing I write or create could possibly be worse than the shit that makes it to the big screens.

[storm jungle]

Theres no bad ideas

only bad execution

theres media out there that makes the most goofy shit somehow epic

[heady rivet]

Lucky bastard made his entire career off being the ideas guy

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah, Kojima is a piece of shit

half of his ideas are like legit terrible that his team shut down

or outright told him its braindead

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-one-jet-li-arms-up-aim-guns-gif-16194662

[storm jungle]

CORRECT POST

id have also taken lego batman but still

[solid horizon]

"metal gear greatest manly game of all times"
Looks inside
->barely playable gay ass snake plissken

[heady rivet]

I dont wanna hear about what you take

[heady rivet]

Yeah and

[rancid cove]

looking cool like this
tbh the meaning would go hard i think i could squeeze something on this one as well

[storm jungle]

I mean the games are good and playable

[heady rivet]

Gay sex is manly because no women

Are involved

[heady rivet]

I like that Kojima just likes staring at European women he makes games just for that

[solid horizon]

Only one I played was the msx one tbh, I watched my brother get mad on the other ones

[spare osprey]

Fair.
MGSV was my first game.
Come to find out the Fire Whale guy was originally lightning buzz-cut guy.

[storm jungle]

"european women"

You mean hollywood chicks hes creepy to that he wanks and wastes money over to hire for mocap lol

[solid horizon]

And laughed at how incredibly gay coded the games are

[storm jungle]

thats Colonel Volgin to you

https://klipy.com/gifs/mgs3-metal-gear-solid-4--k01KQ0WHA1Q4PRNEMAR64TAEJ7Y

[spare osprey]

Bite me, grandma.

[vagrant fox]

Worse

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283101573274144899/1487218668948553769/Kojima.mp4?ex=69ed41d1&is=69ebf051&hm=ed09cd495ac1759a53665ee0c2d4299ddc589e660fd99261a8e81507bd603909&

[storm jungle]

Why bother with you, fetus

[storm jungle]

👎

[vagrant fox]

Yes

[solid horizon]

Issue with this one is how vertically narrow it is and how it would look like the necron ankh in the distance

[crystal forum]

the metro series really has the best post apocalyptic gun design

hands down

[storm jungle]

not hands down but its pretty good

[crystal forum]

for me it's the fact that it's both really jury rigged and actually functional looking

[storm jungle]

Prob because the devs know how guns work

[crystal forum]

unlike bullshit like the pipe gun in fallout 4

[storm jungle]

oh my god

shut the fuck up about fallout guns

lmao

[rancid cove]

I mean
not really

[crystal forum]

when have i ever talked about fallout guns

[solid horizon]

->fallout

[solid horizon]

Squint

[rose thorn]

FALLOUT !!!

I LVOE FALLOUT!!!

[storm jungle]

jay you have fallout mentioned 312 times

[storm jungle]

You need to keep it but make it more compact

[rose thorn]

fallout is literallyt eh best setting ever made tbf

[crystal forum]

the abzats is my fav

[solid horizon]

Fallout is the game where you race violently and crash into other cars right ?

[crystal forum]

because i love dshk's

and it's a fucking shotgun dshk

[rancid cove]

I think it was just the size I made the wings and shit- however i lost the files and the images i used to make it up
so...

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[crystal forum]

but the shambler is also cool

[rancid cove]

But on the sketch the artist made of my OC the symbiol doesnt look as bad

[crystal forum]

it's kinda wild that the most iconic metro gun is a revolver shotgun

[rancid cove]

you can kinda see it

[rose thorn]

his head needs to be bigger btw

[crystal forum]

it hits so many niche gun nerd notes

[storm jungle]

Get an artist to squeeze it like in the image

its way too tall to fit on a pauldron

[storm jungle]

the guy here did the correct thing

[rose thorn]

i fucking LOVE the railway rifle

[storm jungle]

you can see the "rod" base is much smaller and the wings are more spread

[rancid cove]

yeah he did it way better than what i did

[rancid cove]

Its a she btw

[solid horizon]

Idea 2

[heady rivet]

He doesnt do Hollywood, he does European Models. Stefanie Joosten, whoever that French lady was in Death Stranding. He WISHES he has Hollywood budget

[storm jungle]

He does hollywood

guy literally worships that entire industry

has been since MGS1

[solid horizon]

Since metal gear 1

[storm jungle]

thats what i said yes

[solid horizon]

I mean metal gear not metal gear solid

[storm jungle]

Nah. The first MG didnt have that aspect

[heady rivet]

He emulates Hollywood but he doesnt have the budget or the guts to do a movie

[storm jungle]

MGS1 had literal scene setups and hollywood cinematography

[heady rivet]

Oh my fucking god shoutout to Twin Snakes

[storm jungle]

Cockliwood Kojima

[storm jungle]

no like, he did it since the OG mgs1

[heady rivet]

Twin Snakes is the events of Shadow Moses as Otacon tells it

[storm jungle]

twin snakes just extreme'ified it

[solid horizon]

"snake" on the jacket is literally Kyle from Terminator, ingame he's mel gibson

[storm jungle]

....thats just artistic theft lol

MGS1 was literally directed like a hollywood movie

[solid horizon]

Very hollywoodian

[heady rivet]

Yeah legit everyone is just an actor traced

[storm jungle]

Nah

[crystal forum]

it just looks like junk

[solid horizon]

Yup

[storm jungle]

....so do metro guns

jay are you dense

💀

[solid horizon]

Sean Connery my favorite metal gear villain

[rose thorn]

choo choo

[heady rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1481104605940023432/1489671885506744492/EscherShoot.gif

[nocturne crest]

Thoughts on the pipe guns?

[crystal forum]

they dont though, thats the thing. metro guns wouldnt work irl but they look like they would and thats all that matters

[storm jungle]

Jay

they are literally junk weapons

made from scraps

[crystal forum]

ok so i will explain this simply

[storm jungle]

no

i dont care

fucking gun-nuts, the most annoying people in the world

[rose thorn]

i think they are pretty bad lmao, probably like 10% over hated but pretty bad. I just refuse to use htem whern i play fallout now and its significantly more fun lmao

early gmae

[spare osprey]

The reason why I love Cyberpunk and Fallout 4.

[solid horizon]

Fallout junk guns could work irl, what's your point

[storm jungle]

Same, that maxim LMG lives rent-free in their heads

I just love the idea of getting mad at madeup guns, its like that lion/monkey meme

[spare osprey]

I love my big cylinder not-MG.

[solid horizon]

Ive seen people get mad that fallout doesn't have mp5s

[rose thorn]

i like how as of fallout 4 people figured out how to fucking handmake gauss rifles its stupid i love it

[crystal forum]

so notice how the shambler is a perfect example of a junk gun that is both rememberable and believable. most of its parts come from real guns like the stock and the grip which are clearly from an AK. the most important design aspect here is the revolving magazine which is so fucking cool it's unbelievable. it gives the shambler a unique reload style that puts it apart from any pump action gun

[nocturne crest]

Don't forget this:

[solid horizon]

Getting mad over fictional weapons is the same as complaining about the shape of your pastas

[crystal forum]

metro's got a railgun too. but the awesome part is how industrial it looks

[heady rivet]

Some British guy built 3 machine guns from hardwar store parts as a protest once but apparently the ides of hurling a railway spike is insane

[heady rivet]

Bullpup Bolter

[crystal forum]

not to mention it shoots fucking ball bearings

BALL BEARINGS

[rose thorn]

OMFG IJ UST REALIZED HTE JUNK HET IS BASICALLY A FUCKING CAR ENGINE

[nocturne crest]

You talking about the Luty.

[heady rivet]

I'm gonna bear down on your balls

[solid horizon]

Giving your balls to a bear

[rose thorn]

somethign that walsy bugged me about metro guns is that htey all look really thin

[spare osprey]

It's always guys that talk like TheActMan that make videos about 'em, too.
Eugh.

[rancid cove]

Lowkey fuck with the way he narrates it

[nocturne crest]

Jet engine.

[rose thorn]

i like the car battery lmao

[crystal forum]

im mad at shit game design. my complaints come from the angle of somebody who likes to model guns for fun

[rose thorn]

JET ENGINE YEAH MY BAD

[heady rivet]

https://youtu.be/sIhGCRIQnCA

[rose thorn]

there is someoneo ut int eh waste ladn who figured out how to recreate hte junk jet

[solid horizon]

Idk what to tell you, I used to be into guns

Eventually I grew up

[crystal forum]

you didnt even read what i posted

[nocturne crest]

You ever seen the video about the Guerilla shotgun?

[crystal forum]

i dont give a shit about the fact it's a gun

[nocturne crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUjDumvMK6I

[solid horizon]

As artistic director and texture artist for a FPS game, ive had worse to model and texture

[rose thorn]

I lvoe the CR-74L i hope we get it in wasteladn warfare

[solid horizon]

Most of the guns you see in metro and fallout are great looking

[crystal forum]

i dislike most fallout 4 designs

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-alarm-gem-alert-chud-redditor-gem-gif-6415505554061588689

[crystal forum]

they feel bland and uninspired

[surreal nest]

the dudes who tweak out about guns being inaccurate in tv shows should get annihilated

[rose thorn]

peak gun

[surreal nest]

nobody cares about your death sticks!

[storm jungle]

this tbh

"MUH FALLOUT GUNS"

shut the fuck up

[solid horizon]

Idk I like the shotgun and the electric lewis gun

[crystal forum]

the combat shotgun?

[solid horizon]

Clearly you didn't have to texture a gun you didn't come up with

[rose thorn]

a gun that went from oen of my least favorites to favorites has been the laser musket

[solid horizon]

Else youd know what hating a gun design truly is

[rose thorn]

i fucking LOVE THIS THING

[solid horizon]

[spare osprey]

It's so good.
Gimme twenty.

[crystal forum]

this is one of the few guns in the game i like

[rose thorn]

when ever im reloading it during a fire fight i alwasy think of that one scene uh

[solid horizon]

I like that the pipe gun is side loaded

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/wolfenstein-shotgun-gif-21872660

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/stomp-gif-17874349

[rose thorn]

wrogm opme

[arctic talon]

Ngl the fo4 pipe guns are ugly as fuck

Which is the only reason I dislike them

[spare osprey]

Good job--

[solid horizon]

They're based off real pipe guns

[rose thorn]

agreed

[solid horizon]

Made by brazilian guys iirc

[arctic talon]

They don’t look methy enough

[rose thorn]

i like the pipe revolver