40k-lore-chat

[lament shoal]

I’m ngl it looks like something AI would generate lol

[sacred ginkgo]

Isn't it just a chopped down chauchat with greebles

[plush mason]

thats what most SW guns are yeah, just irl guns from like ww1/2 with some extra bits glued on to make them "sci fi" lol

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah thats why I asked

They just raid the prop closet and glue the bits on the floor to the guns

[plush mason]

yup

[arctic talon]

The space AK has more done to change it then some OT guns lol

It’s just a shame the AK is so recognizable lmao

[winter pine]

ngl it's kind of nuts to imagine how much carnage this platform has done over the past near 80 years

[rose thorn]

is this supposed to reference a specific characteR? night lords dont really refuse boons they just usually dont get offered htem because they are cowards and are scared of risk

[rancid cove]

Talos

from the NL triology

you chud

[fervent geode]

Talos Valcoran

[rose thorn]

OHHHHH

okay that makes sense

[rancid cove]

FAKE FAN

LARPER

YOU ARE LARPING

[fervent geode]

And Nlords do get offered boons

And they take them

[rancid cove]

@ WARDENS FLAY THEM ALIVE

[rose thorn]

eyah tahts what i was getting at

[timid pasture]

Idk

[fervent geode]

Ye but afaik there’s nothing about them not usually getting offered them

[rancid cove]

also this is pure misinformation

[fervent geode]

They take boons offered

[rose thorn]

i just assumed thats what the meme was getting at

[fervent geode]

Since 30k even

[fervent geode]

Ye

[rose thorn]

WAIT HTAT TALOS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWjP3Kw5Zuc

lmao

gonna be honest i thought uhh whats his name form HH siad this

[arctic talon]

Yes LOL

[rose thorn]

i play a real faction, gsc

[arctic talon]

I wanted to be a hero

skins a child alive

this sucks

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[fervent geode]

I wanted to be a hero, so I clogged my chainsword with civilians surrendering

[arctic talon]

Shits more recognizable then a lot of things lol

[fervent geode]

“Your delusional or your sarcastic” - Vandred

[rose thorn]

idk why i didnt expect htere to be any living night lords in modenr 40k since HH

[arctic talon]

This is why you use a powersword

[fervent geode]

Ts is why he stole Aurum

[fervent geode]

There are a lot

[rose thorn]

i assumed that there are more new night lords than odl lmao

[arctic talon]

The old ones tend to be the losers of the bunch lol

[fervent geode]

Gendor Skraivok
Lucoryphus
Talos Valcoran
Xarl
Haarken Worldclaimer
Duro
Uzas
Vandred Anrathi
Ruven
Cyrion
Krieg Acerbus
Zso Sahaal
I think Llansahai is out there somewhere

[fervent geode]

Probably

[timid pasture]

Were Night Lords Evil before the Heresy?

Like Were They always evil

[wind hornet]

pretty much

[fervent geode]

Yes

They were created to be evil

They’ve always been evil

Konrad Curze is a monster

[rose thorn]

i think like right after konrad was found and liek early early early pre crusade ngiht lords were cops and shit

konrad fuck

[fervent geode]

No they were mass murderers even then

They’d drop cities with rain of flayed corpses

[winter pine]

Night Lords were always evil iirc

[rose thorn]

i remmebr mentioned in one of the books that like "oh yeah the first wave of new night lords were cops and stuff then instnatly fell back into being hell"

[fervent geode]

It was just less everyone and more the combatants

[wind hornet]

I think they always used the worst criminals the imperium had as recruits

[rose thorn]

i wonder why the ashen claws decided htey would be better off on their own than joinin a traitor force, old raven guard are alot more in common with night lords than anythign else

[winter pine]

I think the Emperor recruited the early legionaires from the worst prison hives on Terra back at the start of the Great Crusade

[fervent geode]

Not really, cops don’t gather everyone and throw them into massive pits and cover them (an entire hive city)

[rose thorn]

are you sureeee?

[winter pine]

Cops are also really evil so I don't think it's mutually exclusive

[fervent geode]

Maybe

[rose thorn]

have you been to florida ?

[fervent geode]

Id rather die

[fervent geode]

Yeah, Night’s Children

[winter pine]

unfortunately born and raised in the state

[rose thorn]

im so osrry for your loss

[rose thorn]

yeah i was getting at thsi too dw lmao

[fervent geode]

I know they are

But they follow laws and shit or they get punished (theoretically)

[rose thorn]

oh boy, 10:30 pm time to watch the virtual insanity musi cvideo

[fervent geode]

From Vhnori to Piamen the Night Lords have been a force sent when peaceful compliance and rule of law is over

And it’s time to literally rain the dead over the cowering masses

Cops are probably

The Raven Guard

[rose thorn]

"boy i hope this music video posted 16 yeras ao doesnt predict the current state of humanity"

Raven guard before corvus were horrible people and criminals lmao

[fervent geode]

Yes

Brutal compliance and shit

Slavers

[rose thorn]

before the emperor reclaimed corvus he lead a slave rebelliona nd killed i think almost all of their slave masters

[fervent geode]

Yes then he nuked a planet (slavemaster planet)

Wild stuff

[rose thorn]

i can literally only think of 1 guy being mentioned ot be slavers in the ravenguard during HH and he was sent on a suicide mission

liek post corvus

[fervent geode]

The brunt of the slavers were sent to the Fringes to fight and die in their own war

[rose thorn]

yeah

god i love the railroad

[fervent geode]

Like Legion Master Arkhas Fal and Shade Captain Nerat Kirine

He kept some with him

Like the Deliverer Terminators

But he fucking hated them regardless

[rose thorn]

lmao yeah

[fervent geode]

I think the only one he didn’t hate was Captain Soukhounou for some reason

[rose thorn]

he was a natural born slavery HATER thats why he ist he most based primarch

[fervent geode]

That’s him and Mortarion

[rose thorn]

mortarion kept slaves post HH

[fervent geode]

That’s not Mortarion anymore, those slaves aren’t really alive either

[rose thorn]

at least gulliman is trying to scrub out slavery (and failing)

[fervent geode]

They can’t really go anywhere, pox infected and dead yet alive

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/abraham-lincoln-slavery-that-sounds-like-slavery-fallout-4-fallout-gif-10230404743933093972

[fervent geode]

How can he free them

I mean he freed the Barbarans

[timid pasture]

Lmao

[fervent geode]

He freed the Galaspari

[sacred ginkgo]

guiliman when he realizes that slavery is logistically expedient for the imperium and that hes fucked

[fervent geode]

But now he’s a slave too

[timid pasture]

Did they have any specific reason to turn to chaos?

[arctic talon]

He’s not lol

[fervent geode]

The Emperor is a fucking hypocrite and Curze sees this

[arctic talon]

They were traitors, they fell to chaos post heresy and some
Of them started accepting gifts from the Raptors during the heresy

[fervent geode]

Most of the Legion does too

[rose thorn]

was it gulliman saying he wanted ot reduce slavery in ultramar system?

or ma ith inking of uh

[arctic talon]

No

Def not

[fervent geode]

He’s maintaining it, might increase even

[rose thorn]

okay then i am htinking of probably the white conculs?

[arctic talon]

Guilliman is okay with the status quo of slavery in ultramar

[fervent geode]

Now that the 500 worlds are up and rising

[winter pine]

genuinely one of the most justifiable reasons for some of the Primarchs to rebel in the Heresy

[arctic talon]

He’s also fine with it in the imperium

Curze is however batshit insane

[fervent geode]

Mortarion saw him as a tyrant

[arctic talon]

So any sort of cookie points he gets for his rebellion went down the drain

[rose thorn]

man if only raven guard had a cannibal successor....

[fervent geode]

Curze is too insane unfortunately

[arctic talon]

When he started skinning people for fun

[arctic talon]

Make your own

[fervent geode]

So since he was like 3

[sacred ginkgo]

If the imperium started to pay their workers it would implode in half a second

[rose thorn]

yeahhh, raven guard geneseed is also very unstableeee

[arctic talon]

Not really

[rose thorn]

?

[arctic talon]

It’s more unstable then usual

[winter pine]

I dunno if GW intended for Curze to be an allegory for extreme mental illness ruining someone's life but it feels like it

[arctic talon]

But it’s not like fucked

[fervent geode]

Besides a few mutations it’s fine lol

[sacred ginkgo]

They'd show the payroll bill to the emporer and he would die on the spot

[fervent geode]

He’s already dead

[rose thorn]

ill think on it

[arctic talon]

Curze is an allegory for someone with extreme mental illness choosing to actively seek out more destructive things to do, take it out on others and refuse all help offered

lol

[winter pine]

wow he's just like me!

[rose thorn]

im nto sure what kind of cannibalism woudl work with ravneguard

[fervent geode]

Even he knows this

[arctic talon]

Ritualistic

When in doubt ritualistic cannibalism

lol

[rose thorn]

lmao

[fervent geode]

Eat their predecessors

[rose thorn]

whats the stealthiest organ....

[fervent geode]

Not that uncommon

[fervent geode]

Brain

[rose thorn]

OH DUH I FORGOT FUKCING RAVENS EAT CARRION

FUCKKK FUCKK FUCKKKK FUCKK FUCKK

well ic ant do the easiest name possible \

[tough haven]

Do something with magpies

And make them very possessive of certain spoils of war or chapter relics, more so than usual

Along with the ritual cannibalism

[opaque coyote]

also

[wary fulcrum]

Is it?

Aside from the eyes and skin and people occaisionally forgetting they saw you is there any other defects?

[dapper gyro]

Not really unless you take in the account of some borderline rogue chapter like the Shark.

[shadow plover]

There was a whole subplot how the RG geneseed is bad

[dapper gyro]

Yes, it was tampered by the Alpha legion.

Yet, those guys are still more powerful and loyal to RG.

With the 9e, it is pretty much a non issue now.

[arctic talon]

That was from the past

[dapper gyro]

It was during heresy.

[arctic talon]

RG geneseed is perfectly fine for post heresy implementation rates

[shadow plover]

They still have malfunctioning extra organs

[arctic talon]

It’s just the melanin one iirc

[dapper gyro]

Which is really a non issue.

[arctic talon]

Wait also betchers I think

But that’s also mostly a non issue

Oh wait

The mucus/oily flesh one

For warmth

They’re missing that

[dapper gyro]

RG and IF are the only 2 legion in the lore with member heavily mutated by chaos and yet stay loyal and willing to die after their duties are done.

[arctic talon]

So they’re missing 2 organs and 1 is mildly defective

Their lack of melanin didn’t get fixed by Cawl

As for the other 2 no clue on if they were fixed

Bcs new primaris IF are still popping up with missing betchers

[dapper gyro]

It's not like they every need sunbathing...

[shadow plover]

Raptors have one of them fixed somehow but not RG themselves

[arctic talon]

Geneseed mutation be like that

Lol

[dapper gyro]

Raptor was supposed to be the stronger marines before the alpha legion played with RG geneseed stock.

[shadow plover]

Meant Raptors the successor chapter, not Raptors the Raven Guard unit

[dapper gyro]

Well, they are likely the one separated to create the chapter afterward.

[arctic talon]

Well the Raptor creations don’t seem to share much in common with Raptor chapter beyond name

[wary fulcrum]

The OG Raptors?

That was sabotaged by the Alpha Legion

(I also have a really strong argument the Alpha Legion did the same to the Wolf Brothers)

[shadow plover]

That but they still suffer from other issues as mentioned

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah most chapters do

[opaque coyote]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZSPvIM1r5YQ?si=XMRBY0Vyem4wmKTZ

[steel ingot]

so like now that im taking my chaos legion lore dive in earnest i gotta ask

are the alpha legion all that or is it just memes puffing up their image

[celest dome]

all that what ?

Some of the meme stuff exagerate on it

[steel ingot]

as in like are they the chad infiltrators ive been lead to believe

[solid horizon]

Most of the memes mix up 30k and 40k anyways

[steel ingot]

are alpha legion guys uncloaking and doing this to dark angels

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/G9Iz3WtXcAAixFl.mp4

[celest dome]

They're good at infiltrating and decieving

[steel ingot]

geuinely i think the only chaos legion thats lived up to the hype are word bearers

[dapper gyro]

The thing is that people usually comparing legions to chapters, which are very different.

A legion is huge and they have specialised detachment in form of company, which turned into chapters after 31k.

[steel ingot]

it does seem a little silly that most space marine chapters think a 1000 guys is definitely enough

meanwhile legions are amassing as many fucking angry evil dudes as possible

though i do have to wonder since they are their old legions, dont they suffer attrition much worse, like they cant get those 10k year old warriors back right

[dapper gyro]

1000 frontline. They have more in reserve. Still not many. GW was not good with numbers. Though, that number is good to make homebrews into semi-canon.

Chaos SMs actively create new troops as well.

[dapper gyro]

Most of the unnamed ones are not that old. While the ones from 30k don't live for the whole 10k years as time passes in different rate in the warp.

[steel ingot]

okay cause its been an issue to square that circle while reading chaos lit

like how are you guys not starving for army replenishments

[dapper gyro]

Chaos give them unnatural power.

[rocky gale]

They abduct and implant people, plus their worlds have mortals populations

[dapper gyro]

Worshippers

[rocky gale]

They also steal uncorrupted geneseed from the loyalist marines they kill and use that

[steel ingot]

ah okay

still with the way the lit reads it makes it feel like the heresy era warriors are the only people who exist, hence the confusion on my end

[rocky gale]

And like every marine is supposed to produce 2 geneseeds when they die, so they scale if the seed can be recovered

[dapper gyro]

It was something in earlier edition of 40K and their books.

[steel ingot]

meanwhile nl see geneseed like yum yum gimme some

[dapper gyro]

Though it is pretty much retconned.

[steel ingot]

seeing this before i read half of the books

[fervent geode]

We have a skinning pit

[fervent geode]

Abductions, gene seed stealing

Or in the case of the Word Bearers, Ksons and DG have an entire planet of potential aspirants as well

[normal pulsar]

D:

[raven stone]

Also Warp is a place of non-linear time shenanigans

So at any given point there could be a duplicate of the same given Chaos Marine existing

[steel ingot]

like look all the lit involving word bearers ive read of encountered has them being all that

like they are fr fr the favored sons not those larper ass black legion assholes

plus their dad still loves them probably

and they are very efficient at sowing chaos in a way i have to put respect to

[normal pulsar]

Always For the Warmaster

[heady rivet]

He came outta retirement for that

[steel ingot]

like world eaters are cool, black legion are cool, iron legion are full of iron and stuff but like

[heady rivet]

To some traitors, the Heresy was like a decade ago lole

[steel ingot]

something about the absolute directness of the word bearers "we have no alterior motives than to sow chaos as we are directed"

they are evil as a way of life

its kinda refreshing

[normal pulsar]

I enjoy the thouSAND sons

Cool magician shit

[steel ingot]

the only bit i dont really like is their crimson and silver paint scheme is a little mid compared to their chaos rivals

world eaters eat their lunch on that regard

[solid horizon]

Tbh silver trim is dope in chaos

Black Legion used to have silver trim a long time ago before GW slowly switched it to gold

Silver fits really well the WB dark red

Also I forgor but I think WB have blue lenses ?

[steel ingot]

i just think the red and silver isnt as good

plus brass/bronze trim if you ask me is one of the coolest in 40k

[fervent geode]

Green lenses actually

The green of Colchis or smth

[steel ingot]

shoutouts minotaurs bronze

[fervent geode]

Lorgar promised them green paradise or smth /jk

[steel ingot]

what is it brass scorpion or something

anyways

[fervent geode]

Silver trim is best on midnight blue tbh

Same for brass

[steel ingot]

i mean in the grandest scheme

the chaos legions all are a little chopped color wise

[fervent geode]

I just keep some leadbelcher and warplock bronze for all trim

[solid horizon]

They're better looking than loyalists

[steel ingot]

ENHHH

iunno

[solid horizon]

Trim is life

[steel ingot]

aesthetically absolutely cooler armor and greeblies on their stuff

color schemes leave a lot to be desired

except night lords

[solid horizon]

Night lords are the most horrid ngl

[steel ingot]

badass as fuck, lightning on dark blue with red and yellow

ough peem

[fervent geode]

Imma kill yuo

[solid horizon]

Go ahead

Kill me

[fervent geode]

I did it

Why aren’t you dead

[solid horizon]

Night Lords look like halloween airbrushed rides

[steel ingot]

your neighbor wants to kill you, your neighbor is going to kill you, your neighbor has killed you

[solid horizon]

Infernal regenation

[fervent geode]

[steel ingot]

oh yeah and emperors children are a really cool color scheme too

that sorta pallid pink on matte black i really love it

[fervent geode]

The alternative is Byzantium the colour scheme, can’t go wrong

[heady rivet]

War Hounds had a better scheme in my honest opinion

[fervent geode]

Actually I like red Tsons a lot

[steel ingot]

especially when people put some green accessories or trim with it, genuine perfection

[solid horizon]

Night lord daemon engines look extremely goofy color wise

Night lords look like uh

1966 adam west batman

[fervent geode]

https://tenor.com/view/night-lord-warhammer-40k-space-marine-jamiroquai-virtual-insanity-gif-5727239661190188429

[solid horizon]

Best schemes for vehicle are black legion, word bearers and iron warriors

[rocky gale]

Id come out of retirement for that

[steel ingot]

Xavier calcazar chud supreme

the blindest most stupid moron dumbass inquisitor who ever graced the empyrean

[rancid cove]

Now I think you went too far

[steel ingot]

if you go chaos route it is honestly hysterical

[steel ingot]

you can just flat out tell him "i hate you and have aligned myself with forces of chaos" and he'll be like "ill forgive this infraction, please go to eufrates and begin my undoing"

maybe they took out too much of his brain putting in those implants

[rancid cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1496850846078599168/Tumblr_l_224605963878433.gif

[solid horizon]

Ultramarines but 1966 batman logo

https://tenor.com/view/batman-batman-tv-batmantv-tvbatman-tv-batman-gif-13766209448577399039

[fervent geode]

Smdh that ain’t midnight clad

That’s like breezy afternoon clad

[rancid cove]

Thats literally just blue

[solid horizon]

That's the game workshop display model

Only good NL thing is the og Chaos Dreadnought

Still quite goofy by color standard

[heady rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1490753274280935516/Araneus_Unimpressed.gif

[fervent geode]

James forgor what NL vehicles look like lmao

[solid horizon]

Amusement park halloween ride

[fervent geode]

Bro don’t even have lightning

[solid horizon]

Il sorry but word bearers have a better scheme

[fervent geode]

I like their scheme

But I prefer NL

For vehicles

WB can actually come 2nd in that regard

[crystal forum]

we about to get skinned alive with this one

[rocky gale]

We both know you'd come for less

[shadow plover]

Word Bearers can look cool but I don't think Black Legion has the drip

[fervent geode]

Yeah

They really lost the Sons of Horus drop

[shadow plover]

They should've kept the 1st company red and not just go full black

[crystal forum]

i dont like the overuse of brass

[fervent geode]

Lupercal is also a much better rallying cry than uh

Goon for Abbadon or smth

Whatever it is they use now

[crystal forum]

abbadick

[normal pulsar]

Approved

[rancid cove]

Yeah but

Black Legion

[fervent geode]

“FUSSY FOR ABBUSSY” - Bringers of Despair Warcry prob

[shadow plover]

It would still have the black

just with a red accent colour

[fervent geode]

And would look infinitely better

[normal pulsar]

"for the Warmaster" Is cool

[rancid cove]

KILL FOR THE LIVING

[shadow plover]

SoH have the sauce

[fervent geode]

KILL FOR THE DEAD - Tybalt Marr

[rancid cove]

Rip my boy Marr

Got his neck broken by fattest of chuds Temba

[fervent geode]

That was Moy

[rancid cove]

I always confuse the two

[fervent geode]

Valid

[rancid cove]

The swagger

Is contagious

[fervent geode]

Sons of Horus were an aurafarming legion

[shadow plover]

Even when they're broken in body they resort in the hardest aura farms, look at my boy Maloghurst

[fervent geode]

Lil Horus in the hood

[rancid cove]

Maloghurst was so cool

[crystal forum]

looks like he's mogging

[fervent geode]

He always is

[crystal forum]

he manages to make bald look good

incredible

[fervent geode]

Legion Trait

[solid horizon]

The superior black legion scheme

[shadow plover]

I mean kind of

[solid horizon]

If I invest in more legionaries I gotta try the fur

[heady rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1483585945667375317/1ZKlmbZ.gif

[rancid cove]

I'm thinking of buying me first minis now

[heady rivet]

Aha heyyy

[solid horizon]

I thought you hated them

[rancid cove]

I'm buying a bunch of Sons of Horus tacticals because of the amount of chuds that come in it

[heady rivet]

Fuck

[rancid cove]

I hate the tabletop its different

[solid horizon]

Forgeworld or GW ?

[rancid cove]

Not GW thats for sure

[solid horizon]

Your loss tbh but if that's your choice

[solid horizon]

Then dont get recast

Forgeworld models have aged and usually go poor in terms of quality

[rancid cove]

Ah poo

When I get home ill show the minis i was thinking of buying as me first guys

Was thinking of trying to paint them like Red Corsairs

[solid horizon]

These guys ?

[rancid cove]

No i found them

https://www.wartablegames.me/Space-Marines-MKIV-Tactical-Squad-p3663952.html

These chuds

[solid horizon]

Oh so the GW ones IIRC

yeah 30 bucks for that many dudes is fair

[shadow plover]

Yes those are GW plastic

[solid horizon]

Also I should warn you uh

[rancid cove]

When u said gw i thought u meant actual GW official and i was like "nah them prices are hefty for first minis"

[shadow plover]

a tad old now but still a pretty decent kit

[solid horizon]

Horus Heresy plastic based models have uh

An unholy count of parts per model

[shadow plover]

those have the same amount as a normal old tactical kit for 40k

[solid horizon]

Horus Heresy was originally made by forgeworld

The GW slowly ported it to plastic

[shadow plover]

or the legs are probably in two pieces instead of one

[rancid cove]

Exactly what im looking for tbh
This will be my FIRST time ever painting something let alone a mini

I want a set that comes filled with chuds and parts in case I make mistakes

[solid horizon]

40k ad mech vs 30k ad mech 💀

[rancid cove]

I'll look into buying local paints and try my best to simulate GW citadel shit

[solid horizon]

Try Vallejo or AK, I think they're available worldwide

[shadow plover]

40k and 30k ad mech are also a wholly separate design language

[dapper gyro]

Your local paint would probably be as good.

[solid horizon]

I meant assembly lol

[rancid cove]

I'll also look into the shit like brushes and uhhhhh

Shit to cut off the pieces from the molds

[solid horizon]

21 parts per infantry dude

Totally fair

[shadow plover]

I know, the designs will affect the way they are built

[rancid cove]

Forgot the name

In english

[dapper gyro]

pliers

[rancid cove]

Yes

Ty

[dapper gyro]

snippers

[solid horizon]

Claws

[rancid cove]

What are good brushes to use on minis

Like size wise

[dapper gyro]

Or you can just but a hobby knife with saw blade.

[solid horizon]

Id recommend a dry brush, a medium and a small brush

[rancid cove]

Dont know where im getting one here

[rancid cove]

[solid horizon]

Most expensive part will always be the primer spray can

[dapper gyro]

0, 00 and 000 are common brush size for painting mini.

[shadow plover]

any kolinsky sable size 2 is a good workhorse for all infantry models

size 1 or 0 for smaller detail

[rancid cove]

Is primer just black spray paint or specific tone

[solid horizon]

You have all the colors

Tradition is black or white

[rancid cove]

I see people using 2 on layers idk why for

[shadow plover]

personally I think sizes like 00 and 000 are almost unnecessary, there are a couple edge cases where they're good but most of the time the brush's belly is so small it'll dry up before even managing to get the brush onto the mini

[solid horizon]

Probably for lighting effets

[rancid cove]

Ah

Makes sense

[dapper gyro]

https://excelblades.com/products/k1-craft-knife

[solid horizon]

Oh yeah knife is a must have too

[rancid cove]

Thanks

[dapper gyro]

Actual quality while not expensive.

[rancid cove]

I think

[solid horizon]

Especially if you're getting recast, which is not molded on sprue

[dapper gyro]

The chinese stuff for some reason are more expensive yet so wobbly when use.

[rancid cove]

My biggest issue is gonna be figuring out how to not apply too much glue when assembling the minis

[dapper gyro]

That... comes from experience.

[solid horizon]

Get yourself superglue, Citadel glue doesn't work on resin

[rancid cove]

Local glue was gonna be my answer anyways

[shadow plover]

the models aren't resin though

[dapper gyro]

Tamiya glue works great, just need a thin layer.

[solid horizon]

Recast

[rancid cove]

You chuds need to remember im from brazil

Recasts are like my biggest answer over official shit due to pricing

[solid horizon]

Get gel formula rather than liquid if you're a beginner

[dapper gyro]

Tamiya has world wide distrubution.

[shadow plover]

ah right so then the glue will be a pain

[dapper gyro]

Like, if there is any kind of hobby thing, then they would be there.

From wood craft to other stuff.

[shadow plover]

I'd suggest looking into slow setting super glues instead of the normal stuff

or activators

[rancid cove]

Now

[dapper gyro]

https://www.tamiyabrasil.com/produtos/plastic-cement-20ml-tamiya/ BAM

[rancid cove]

My thing will be looking up decals online to print them here

Idk how ill try to paint the chuds

[dapper gyro]

Tamiya has a brasil specific site, lol.

[rancid cove]

Thats poggers

[dapper gyro]

Impossible for them to not have retailer there.

[solid horizon]

Wait it works on resin too ?

[dapper gyro]

Yes

[solid horizon]

Dang I never knew that

And ruined my bank account over gsw glue

[dapper gyro]

I use it on resin 3d printed mini.

FDM also works, but not as good.

[solid horizon]

Tamyia cement smells nice

[dapper gyro]

The clementine one, the normal one is eh...

[solid horizon]

Tamyia cement + Vallejo paint + Citadel metallic + AK wash + airbrushed paint + no ventilation = godly nap dream generator

[dapper gyro]

Vallejo water base is fine

Solvent paint like Humbrol enamel and Tamiya would absolutely choke you up.

[rancid cove]

I see I'll have to paint them in an open space

[remote widget]

What do you think would happen if a crusade era battleship of marines just.. dropped out the warp

Funnel them straight into the primarisifier

[heady rivet]

"What kind of Marines are you?"

[solid horizon]

Nooo precious firstborns

[rancid cove]

Depending on the legion

Instant black shielding

All of them are going primaris too

[remote widget]

I mean if theyre crusade era, the answer is either "loyalist" or loyalist and converted into ultramrines

[rancid cove]

Rubicon surgery is a must have for all chapters in 40k

[remote widget]

Big ole bucket of blue paint and free codex as final extra step of the rubicon

[rancid cove]

Codex is just a suggestion book anyways

Only mandatory law it has is the 1k size thing but even then theres workarounds

[remote widget]

The joke is theyre made into ultramarines, like in the old days

[rancid cove]

It depends

They could be strong enough to form their own chapter

Crusade era fleets had everything they needed for campaigns

Normal guard infantry, vehicles for astartes and normal humans, mechanicus assistance, knight/titan supports, remembrancers and iterators

They could legit come back still with enough numbers to make a good independent force if they feel like it

Or just be reunited with their legion if theyre loyalist

If traitor they could be given blackshield service at best

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah, even ultras have around 1200

[rancid cove]

As long as the chapter has enough strength to fight back the Inquisition whenever they try to force shit into them

Theyre fine

[wary fulcrum]

(GW fucked up at one point and said vehicles have Astartes crew, and then left a few out from the org

So predators and whatnot have a crew from the…i want to say 6th company, but rhinos and maybe land raiders dont

And then you have command squads, librairus, the chaplaincy which might be reclusiarch but i cant remember)

[wary fulcrum]

Depends on who finds them.

Very real chance nuked from other ships

[rancid cove]

They usually have astartes crew

[rose thorn]

You know I just realized, black Templars have alot of marines where did they get that much gene seed?

[rancid cove]

But its usually servitors

Lole

[rancid cove]

Its given to them

Since

They are in a crusade

[rose thorn]

Yeah but 10k geneseeds at minimum?

[rancid cove]

Its unknown

Black Templars are like a proxy-legion atp

They could be at

100k+

[wary fulcrum]

Sigismund

[rancid cove]

We would never know

[rose thorn]

Oh yeha

[wary fulcrum]

Man was producing for years

[wary fulcrum]

Sometimes servitors or serfs

But the Babab books I think? They crew them with Astartes

[rancid cove]

Well

Not all chapters follow that shit to the latter anyways

Theyre gonna have just a bit over 1k

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah, depends on how many you have available I suppose

[wary fulcrum]

Assuming full strength, you’re talking 954 + librarius, tech-priesthood and chaplaincy

And scouts on top

[heady rivet]

They recruit from dozens and dozens of worlds, so it becomes a snowball rolling downhill. The more Marines, the more Geneseed they make, so forth and so on. 10 years later, they can upkeep huge numbers purely on the harvesting of the living Marines

[rancid cove]

This is called "Tolerable Levels of Deviance" in 40k

[wary fulcrum]

9x100 company
9x5 command squads
9x 1 captains

I forgot chapter master

[rancid cove]

Specialized roles iirc dont seem to count in chapters
I remember seeing somewhere of a chapter with codex compliant size but a high count of chaplains

[wary fulcrum]

We call that heresy on Necromunda

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah, not sure if stuff like bodyguards or the axes of ultramar count

[heady rivet]

Another big thing is the "1000 Marines" only applies to "battleline" Marines. Specialist roles and crews DONT count towards the number. They pretty much only count Assault, Tacticals, Devestators, and Vets. Like the Red Scorpions, in all their codex ways, have an Apothecary per squad which is already 100 extra Marines

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-finally-food-meme-gif-25605149

[wary fulcrum]

Each rhino puts another 16 onto the count

[heady rivet]

AoS artists are so good man

Crazy

[heady rivet]

Like if the Thousand Sons were loyalist they'd have, legally, 0 Marines on the 1000 limit. Since the Librarius dont count

[wary fulcrum]

They had a couple of none-psyker guys

Which must suck for them

[rancid cove]

Not all of em were psykers
Like a minority but you get the idea

[heady rivet]

Yes but its funny to imagine that even in a world where they stay loyal they all dust-max

[wary fulcrum]

I was going to run a riff on the Administratum declaring them extinct despite there being 60k of them and the Administratum arguing the distinction

But then I literally wrote a pirate who followed that plot line

(Administratum said his ship was destroyed despite him showing them his ship, they accused him of stealing it, shenanigans ensued)

[rancid cove]

"Sir, you are incorrect. The vessel exploded 2 cycles ago."

IT IS LITERALLY RIGHT THERE, IN FRONT OF YOU. I WAS DRIVING IT 2 CYCLES AGO TRYING TO GET HERE

"No."

I WAS THEREEE I'M THE COMMANDER OF THE SHIP IT'S RIGHT HERE

"Impossible. The Administratum never makes mistakes."

[remote widget]

I think cain already did this bit

[rancid cove]

Wait actually

[remote widget]

Yeah, the shuttles weren't used to transport valhallans, as their spaceship crashed, but theyd already been assigned to the ship for transport, so the administratum declared them lost with the ship, parked them off the runway and just ignored the shuttles and crew til cain saw them and roasted them

[raven stone]

I mean TBF Administratim being stupid is a constant

So whilst not as unique, it making similar mistakes repeatedly is definitely plaisible

On other news

Blood Bowl getting some Warcom love

What is the world coming to

[hallow saddle]

mfw

[surreal nest]

Good

[celest cedar]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TbVXXsL01y0?si=oQ_9WWKj_obogVLA

[storm jungle]

He blend in TOO WELL imo

[heady rivet]

Today is the day my Chud professor make us AI gen slop for a grade

I hate Gen Eds LOLE

[normal pulsar]

HAHAHAHHA

[vagrant fox]

Devilhunter is a popping short story

[tough haven]

Hows this sound for a data log from a dark mechanicum tech priest

“I have built many glorious creations, all failures. They are putrid, disgusting, <defective> things, but I love them so, as they are my children. But one of them shows promise for a different purpose, to bring sweet suffering upon those that wronged me, the angels say it must be so! It stalks them even now, and soon I will be free from their wretched existence. Free to finish my work.”

[heady rivet]

I could take Nolan

[rancid cove]

In a fight, right?

[heady rivet]

I could take Nolan...

[rancid cove]

[fervent geode]

https://tenor.com/view/applejack-mlp-eyebrow-raise-really-excuse-me-gif-9387552033153383886

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[heady rivet]

Applejacks family owned Zebras

[fervent geode]

Zebras aren’t real

[heady rivet]

Thats how they got their wealth

[fervent geode]

Shhhhh

https://tenor.com/view/applejack-mlp-my-little-pony-applejack-reaction-applejack-angry-gif-26917320

[heady rivet]

Do not pony react me

I noticd you are a brony, whayt is your extremist political belief?

[fervent geode]

I just watched two episodes of MLP

[vagrant fox]

Going from Chad Bearers to Cringe Lords was one step I could tolerate, this is too far

[fervent geode]

Ultranationalist New Westralian Social National Democratic Centralism Monarchism

[fervent geode]

Im literally blind now cause of it so it’s fine

[rose thorn]

what year is it 2012?

[heady rivet]

I watched like 3 seasons with a girl in like, high school

Those creatures were

Racist as fuck

[fervent geode]

Btw worst bet of my life was probably betting to switch to NL if I lost blackjack

[fervent geode]

The show breeds the fanbase

I fought for Pony Lenin in EoW

[heady rivet]

I love how cringe the NL are

[heady rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1490894619570077803/mtxh9m5.gif

[vagrant fox]

eating this red curry I can definitely tell my spice tolerance is approaching critically white

I'm gonna end up like my dad who thinks pepper is spicy

[fervent geode]

Keep eating spicy food

[vagrant fox]

Because of turning away from peak, right?

[fervent geode]

Eventually you will not die in Sichuan after years of burning your tongue

[fervent geode]

Yes

Lorgar has Curzed me

[heady rivet]

In one friends server, we have a channel called "quote wall" where we post the worst things people say. This would be on there.

[vagrant fox]

I dunno, mild vietnamese is as spicy as I want to go

[fervent geode]

It’s very disco to fight for the Ponymarxist dream

[fervent geode]

That’s like uh

Idk most Vietnamese food I know ain’t spicy

Except for the sauce

[vagrant fox]

idk korean then

[fervent geode]

Oh

[vagrant fox]

This shit was like 3 steps too far

[rose thorn]

i wonde rwhat the best kit to cannibalize for choas armor plating is

[sharp pollen]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HFERvvfaIAAWkkY.webp

[fervent geode]

Their noodles are absolute insanity

[vagrant fox]

It was banned here briefly, a bit ridiculous imo

what's that guy making the cool khornate on the 40k tabletop server

[fervent geode]

Lmfao scared of spice

[vagrant fox]

Scavenge other chaos bits

[fervent geode]

Oh yeah Dino’s Morne

Sick stuff

[vagrant fox]

Yeah I've been looking at it, cool stuff

I don't know why the foood administration looked at buldak and said yeah there's potential for acute poisoning and temp banned it but lifted it almost immediately

[fervent geode]

Gov employee got pissed after he almost “died” eating it prob

[vagrant fox]

probably

Here traditional food is not spicy at all

Traditional Faroese food a bit more so but that's because everything was fermented

[fervent geode]

Fermented spice is cool

It’s like its own thing

[vagrant fox]

I miss fermented mustard

I haven't had that in forever

[rose thorn]

GOOD ASS KITBASH, is that khorne piece from the skin worshippers or the 8 bound

the new iron warrior guy needed that extra like 10% chaos

[heady rivet]

Crackkker spotted

[vagrant fox]

Not entirely sure, I see the bits from the skulltaker mini in there but I'm not sure about the toothy crest bit

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-tomatoes-spongebob-meme-gif-26952964

[heady rivet]

Tossed at him, surely

[vagrant fox]

I can ask the guy, why not

[rose thorn]

no, at you

[steel ingot]

black buldak is no fucking joke

its like a fucking challenge offered up to you

HOWEVER the flavor is fucking phenomenal

you have to brave the pain for an unreal taste

[vagrant fox]

I had it for lunch while working in archaeology

but I was cold and freezing in an unheated shed in the middle of a field

It was terrible, sitting there fully dressed up and freezing but my insides are set on fire

[steel ingot]

last time i braved black bowl i chunked a whole carton of milk with it

[vagrant fox]

I just had watery coffee, can't recommend

[steel ingot]

its still not my favorite type of spice though

korean stuff like gochujang is peakest peak of all time

some pork tripe stuffed with gochujang grilled up ough

[heady rivet]

I'm a fan of spice in moderation only. Not spice as the main taste/flavor

Spice for the sake of spice sucks

[vagrant fox]

Peak as a flavour enhancer

[normal pulsar]

I suck

[steel ingot]

i like torturing my mouth with spice

sometimes i like to dip peppers in chili oil and imagine im that old british guy on tiktok

black reaper dipped inn MOMMA LIZ'S CHILI OILLLLLLLLL

[tough haven]

I dont like spicy stuff when its so spicy theres no flavor with it

like its just pure capsaicin

But other than that I love spicy foods and seasonings

[vagrant fox]

A red chilli in some RONIN chilli oilllll

I love that guy

[vagrant fox]

Slaughterbound apparently, not one I've paid much attention to

[rancid cove]

Do WE still insert butchers nails on themselves nowadays or is it just a 30k era ritual?

[normal pulsar]

Who doesnt like the nails

[outer wave]

They still do via butcher surgeons IIRC

[heady rivet]

Yeah they still nail it up

[normal pulsar]

Yes

[steel ingot]

i love that he just is absolutely tweaking when he eats stuff

[tough haven]

Where do they keep finding nails

[steel ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/chilli-theduetboomer-chilli-oil-the-duet-boomer-mama-liz-gif-14365287461318700777

[tough haven]

or do they simply remove ones from the dead WE

[steel ingot]

whos to say they cant make em

[tough haven]

I could have sworn the nails were not easily reproduceable

[steel ingot]

its like cloning an os or something

[steel ingot]

when the nails hit the psyche with that sweet pain

[rancid cove]

Honestly? Me

[rancid cove]

Can they reject/avoid it? I know that not khorne followers are WE and that not all of them are constant rage all the time

[outer wave]

I dont think so? I dont have any lore proof or anything, but I do believe its forced upon you upon recruitment and geneseeding

Provided, there's a butcher surgeon present and they got the equipment

[rancid cove]

Hm

[rocky gale]

Whenever a WE goes "I don't want Nails" the others shout "This Nerds scared of the nails" and then they hold him down while the Surgeon installs them

[fervent geode]

Basically this

They fucking killed the World Eaters who didn’t want the nails

Now it’s like an extra step in Astartes creation for them

The only one without is Endryd Haar, because he’s too angry for them for all we know

[rocky gale]

It's a frat initiation

[fervent geode]

More or less

[normal pulsar]

D: why

[rancid cove]

I'm not really a fan of the constant "always enraged barbarian that only feels pain" character troupe

[celest dome]

Khorne could get more variety

And the Nails do not push toward any variety

[normal pulsar]

But but but they look cool

[rancid cove]

Yeah they do

But I really like variety in characters like Cacti said

And the nails really inhibits that

You don't have strategic masterminds, poets or "kind" characters inside the WE, just constant barbarians complaining of the pain the nails causes and the rage and bloodthirt

They're all the same all the time

[celest dome]

Look at both Fantasy/AoS and 40k, compare the 2 sides for each Chaos Gods, and Khorne is the least varied of the 2.

[outer wave]

My issue isn't that archetype so much as how many factions exhibit that exact archetype. BA, SW, Orkz...

[rancid cove]

At least in other legions you have individual characters

WE have the same shit copypasted

[rancid cove]

They're represented differently, not WE

Blood Angels you have still noble figures, people who try to fight it, who still have feelings and plans and dreams. Artists, dreamers, yearners.

Space Wolfs still have the more quiet, less bolstering, the more kins to the mission and getting it done

Orks still make it funny, fun, it changes in how each one thinks and their wishes

But WE is just constant screaming at the top, always on the verge of breaking

There's no noble image

Its just the same concept over and over again

It gets boring after a while because they don't have variety

[normal pulsar]

I didnt read much WE post heresy,so idk

[wintry cloud]

New weshammer video is dumb

Yeah i just came here to say that.

[rancid cove]

Whats it about

[rose thorn]

Fork found in kitchen

[wintry cloud]

How gw betrayed us by reviving yarrick

Or whatever

[rancid cove]

Huh

[celest dome]

When they introduced the Jakhal Cultists for the WE they didn't even try to do new stuff, like they don't have nails yes, but they're restricted to Melee stuff

[rancid cove]

He wasnt even dead

[wintry cloud]

https://youtu.be/eeHCSomnVk8?si=TFWJM0KZXDcKAoLU

[rancid cove]

Like- this is boring as fuck
Khorne is melee focused, not melee only. He can still have gunners that bolster about the blood they spill by artillery rounds, you can still have trained assassins that take skulls in a more indirect approach

There is no fucking diversity

Hell, they can still have psykers for gods sake

[normal pulsar]

No

[rancid cove]

But all they do is "melee only rampant warrior screaming in rage 24/7"

[wintry cloud]

Dude actually complained that 40k has plot armor, that GW planned this (no way dude) and that they actually “betrayed” the community and that its a bad look for the future

[outer wave]

The idea of an assassin that assassinates people by showing themselves at the last minute, doing a quick challenge for a duel, then killing them for their skull would be cool

[wintry cloud]

Mr grift

Im going back to ian and pancreas

[rancid cove]

EXACTLY

BUT ALL THEY DO IS THE SAME FUCKING SHIT EVERYTIME

ITS BORING

[crystal forum]

stop yelling

[wintry cloud]

Skulltaker?

[normal pulsar]

No psyker allowed 🫪

[outer wave]

Yeah, basically Skulltaker but not daemon and doing more actual assassin work rather than "stake out battlefields for worthy opponents to kill"

[rancid cove]

These guys forget 40k is a setting, not a fixed universe of actions related to a single plotline

Its all to just sell minis

Like you cant have 40k without plot armor

[wintry cloud]

YES

DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THAT COMPANIES WANT MONEY

[storm jungle]

What gets me is Yarrick was never dead unless you're a fucking moron that cannot read a single codex page.

[outer wave]

It'd be fun to see more cultists that try and bend the rules of Khorne in their way to get away with some silly "dishonourable" stuff

[celest dome]

You know that update Nurgle got in AoS with that boxed game ?
It make me so damned jealous

[rancid cove]

You mean wes entire fanbase?

[wintry cloud]

Like that video should not be 40 minutes long

[normal pulsar]

Any death korps fans?

[storm jungle]

Yes

[arctic talon]

no

[crystal forum]

i didnt care about yarrick's return personally i only cared about steel legion

[arctic talon]

Yarrick was never going to die

it was always obvious

me when obvious propaganda is propaganda

[rancid cove]

That and just some khornates who dont have the nails and arent constantly on the verge of becoming a DBZ character

[storm jungle]

his entire death pamphlet is propaganda

[wintry cloud]

Exactly

[storm jungle]

the first fucking sentence has like 5 [redacted] segments

[rancid cove]

I am pretty sure Khorne still uses psykers

Hes just not fond of having a lot of em

[crystal forum]

dies he really complain about yarrick as if the drama isnt solely caused by krieg replacing steel legion

i havent seen a single person bitch about yarrick

[storm jungle]

Yeha lmao

Yarrick literally had no "controversy", people just went "oh cool"

and most folks reminded them he was just in limbo

[outer wave]

That'd be wicked dude

[rancid cove]

Wes thinks the entire event is bad because they think the "story" (which doesn't exist) should move on
They think there's an end to all of this

Which there isnt

[arctic talon]

Khorne allows psykers

[crystal forum]

what story? armageddon?

[arctic talon]

No sorcery

[crystal forum]

armagedon clearly had an open end

[arctic talon]

Wes is mistaken that 40k is a story

It’s not a story

[crystal forum]

gazgul is coming back

[arctic talon]

It’s a setting lol

[rancid cove]

Warhammer 40,000 as a whole
They don't understand theres no end

[normal pulsar]

Idont think so

[rancid cove]

40k has no proper "start, middle and finale" because its not meant to have one

[storm jungle]

All 40k plotlines have "open ends"

These all exist to sell models.

[fervent geode]

He allows psykers

But no magic kills

[arctic talon]

He does

[fervent geode]

Ala Kyras

[arctic talon]

No sorcery

[storm jungle]

EVERY SINGLE lore event has a boxset or some tabletop thing tied to it.

[arctic talon]

Is the big one

[crystal forum]

armageddon was more so though. like we clearly get hints that gazgul isnt over yet

[storm jungle]

Nah

[arctic talon]

If you’re a sorcerer Khorne is going to kill your ass

[storm jungle]

thats literally all warzones

lmao

[arctic talon]

We’ve only had one warzone end

[storm jungle]

Armageddon just has more lore behind it

[arctic talon]

lol

Which was octarius

[storm jungle]

we havent had like 1 warzone thats been concluded

[fervent geode]

Nachmund is eternally on going

[normal pulsar]

Isnt he a one case

[arctic talon]

Also vigilus is concluded I guess

[fervent geode]

I think that Faith and Fury one ended

[crystal forum]

id say small events conclude more often

[arctic talon]

But it’s part of Nachmund so I don’t know

[fervent geode]

Yeah that one veritus

[storm jungle]

Like what

those arent Warzones

[fervent geode]

Not vigilus

Veritus

[crystal forum]

idk sometimes entire planets are involved

[arctic talon]

There’s also the bloodpact goremages

[crystal forum]

is that not a warzone

[arctic talon]

By 40k narrative terms no

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/warzone-time-gif-11019625942976640824

[storm jungle]

A "warzone" event can go from a system to multiple sectors

theres no parameter to it

[crystal forum]

are we not talking about call of duty™ Warzone™

[arctic talon]

Warzone: X

Is specific terminology GW has used since 6e

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

For horrific long lasting conflicts

lol

[storm jungle]

Vigilus is one planet while Octarius is an entire sector

etc etc

[crystal forum]

where sevenius

[arctic talon]

Warzone; vigilus was connected to nachmund gauntlet

So it’s not over technically

[arctic talon]

In Calaxis

[crystal forum]

septius

[arctic talon]

A GUO

[fervent geode]

Sounds like a DG name

Called it

[arctic talon]

it’s literally a GUO

lol

[storm jungle]

Vigilus is just "it keeps getting worse"

[normal pulsar]

I guess yeah

[arctic talon]

That’s nachmund, vigilus is over

[storm jungle]

Same area

[arctic talon]

GW hasn’t mentioned vigilus in like 7 years now

[rancid cove]

40k's entire existence has no end
There's some times ends to certain events in the setting but GW still includes wiggle room to keep selling on it
Hell. The Horus Heresy and Scouring is considered in lore to be over, past. But there's still new minis, new lore changes and additions and new novels that come out of new "perspectives" of "never seen before" characters

[crystal forum]

there's also spinward front which is dan abnet's personal guard war

[arctic talon]

It’s not called that

[rancid cove]

40k isn't a forward story. It's a setting made to sell

[arctic talon]

Spinward front is the FFG one

[fervent geode]

Whatever the fuck is happening to the Dominate

[crystal forum]

ah

[storm jungle]

doesnt matter

[arctic talon]

Abnett’s got a dif name

[storm jungle]

Warzones that have "stakes" are tabletop tied ones

[crystal forum]

i just find it funny that there's an entire war dedicated to the gaunt's ghosts

[storm jungle]

👆

[storm jungle]

Thats literally all 40k books

[fervent geode]

The whole Sabbat War is

A thing

[storm jungle]

every author makes up their own conflicts

[near wasp]

I heard sabbat

[storm jungle]

Gaunt's is just larger due to being an entire sector war

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[fervent geode]

Wrong Sabbat

[near wasp]

Lol

[fervent geode]

[near wasp]

Oh no it's going in the book

[crystal forum]

are you a dwarf now

[storm jungle]

dwarves invented books its true

[fervent geode]

Yes

[crystal forum]

based an stuntpilled

[fervent geode]

That’s going in the book

[crystal forum]

when is wokeann getting more books

[storm jungle]

same as when other xenos get more books

aka never

[arctic talon]

This is how I feel reading the convo on 40k being treated like a story

[arctic talon]

When someone decides to write it

[crystal forum]

is this how the chinese build immunity to spice

[near wasp]

Hand of abbadon has some votaan if you wanna torture yourself

[arctic talon]

No

[fervent geode]

When they have a new Votann box to sell

[arctic talon]

High Khal’s oath came out with csm boxes tho

Smh

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-dusk-nian-bean-gif-11284461232767828623

[heady rivet]

You play Necromunda and make your own tales

[remote widget]

Could the emperor have convinced the interex, I think so.

Then again, horus could've too if erebus was thrown out an airlock

[rancid cove]

The major xenos factions already dont got any books- imagine whole smaller factions like the fucking rangdan or whatever theyre called (the guys in the ghoul stars)

Let ALONE MINIS

[storm jungle]

He would have killed them

[arctic talon]

Yes

[storm jungle]

hes literally mega-hitler

[arctic talon]

Also we got more xenos books nowadays smh

Like it’s a lot better then it used to be

[rancid cove]

I meant mini

[fervent geode]

The cursed whatevers are the focus now

[rancid cove]

Typed it wrong

[arctic talon]

Oh

Yeah everyone loses to space marines

More at 7

[remote widget]

Since when are you an eldar main

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

If you say xenos factions didn’t get a lot of minis this edition

[storm jungle]

the Emperor is an eldar? I didnt know that

[arctic talon]

I will stick you in a lathe though

[crystal forum]

if we can convince GW to put votann in the human category in the store they might accidentally give them more lore

[arctic talon]

[fervent geode]

They had a good drop at the end of year reveal

[arctic talon]

They have lore

[storm jungle]

I hope they never d othat lol

[celest dome]

Leaving the Interex alive in the form they were before meeting the Imperium would have been too big of an issue for the Emperor's vision.
They would have to be erased or changed by force

[arctic talon]

💀

[crystal forum]

i said more

[normal pulsar]

He Is a dwarf 100

[arctic talon]

Also yeah LoV don’t belong in Imperium

[storm jungle]

Hes turkish

[storm jungle]

^

[fervent geode]

Biologically speaking it that’s kinda accurate but no, not Imperium at all

[storm jungle]

stop tying cool aliens to your stupid space nazis

[near wasp]

That explains alot

[storm jungle]

Nah the votann are entirely seperate

they are not even human anymore

[arctic talon]

They’re vaguely human

[remote widget]

Likes thrones... holds grudges... it checks out

[arctic talon]

They share some genetics

[fervent geode]

They evolved from humanity

So to speak

[normal pulsar]

Are turkish dwarf?

[arctic talon]

Likes gold

[storm jungle]

Yeah but thats genetic tie is entirely gone in M40

[crystal forum]

no i dont think i will

[storm jungle]

yeah you will

[storm jungle]

Sinan Kaya yea

[heady rivet]

Votann are a different faction, the race however is in both the Leagues and the Inperium

[storm jungle]

I mean kinda?

[crystal forum]

im commissioning myself being invited to the dwarf cookout and you cant stop me

[fervent geode]

Legally speaking they would abhuman in some places which is why they can occasionally not get murdered

[storm jungle]

banned

[storm jungle]

Well yeah they already do that

[fervent geode]

It’s very distant ig

[storm jungle]

its non-existant id say

they are an entirely engineered race

and genetically edited depending on the League

[heady rivet]

Its not kinda its just true. There's Kin in the Imperium. The Leagues are a different tabletop faction and political entity

[storm jungle]

the first human descendant votann are entirely gone

[crystal forum]

votann arent even born in the traditional sense

[fervent geode]

I mean the template came down from a long while back

[remote widget]

So are the interex space Poland, or space Norway?

[storm jungle]

Some are, see the Ironheads

[near wasp]

If a votaan can fuck a human and produce fertile offspring they are the same species

[storm jungle]

Anyone that fascists mass-genocided lol

[storm jungle]

^

[near wasp]

If not then they arnt

[rancid cove]

I meant more as a whole
Less Detachments too

[storm jungle]

but as we know they cant

[storm jungle]

It is indeed kinda. Them being in the Imperium is not the point dumbass.

[fervent geode]

I’d say it’s like Bonobos and Humans then

[storm jungle]

Way better comparison yea

[crystal forum]

despicable. cut more GSC units

[arctic talon]

The marine detachments mostly being shit is funny

[storm jungle]

like the OG Kin are basically entirely extinct through passage of time

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-booing-me-im-right-gif-10368876

[remote widget]

But if theyre Poland, then who's space stalin

[arctic talon]

Gsc don’t get cuts

[storm jungle]

👎

[storm jungle]

the Imperium

[crystal forum]

yeah they'll get cut from the entire game

[fervent geode]

Horus Khageddonovich Lupercal

[storm jungle]

Jay your salt only feeds the hivemind

[rancid cove]

I love it. More slop for me to enjoy.

https://tenor.com/view/hog-hog-slop-sloppy-slop-pig-gif-27581143

[remote widget]

So whats horus then. Some other horror like space petain?

[storm jungle]

A fascist.

[normal pulsar]

😂

[storm jungle]

so literally all of them

[near wasp]

They should make deathwatch the standard for space marine rules

[storm jungle]

lol

[crystal forum]

woah really?

[storm jungle]

Yeah, kinda hard to notice

[crystal forum]

i think carl from invincible would defeat horus

[fervent geode]

Space Stalin

[rancid cove]

An imperial, xenos and chaos worshipper walk into a bar...

[near wasp]

Stand ready for my worm, fish

[fervent geode]

Against Space Hitler

For the Space War

[remote widget]

The eldar plague bomb the nearby orphanage and claim they save the day?

[crystal forum]

WW2 except both sides are hitler

[fervent geode]

Both sides defeated, Indrick Boreale takes control of galaxy as part of T’au Marine Free National Imperial Federation

[storm jungle]

Thats more the Imperium's thing, again lol

[near wasp]

I mean eldar do that too

[storm jungle]

They dont do "plague bombs"