also it is notoriously ass to paint them
#40k-lore-chat
rancid cove
And when they fucking change their paint post fall for chaos its just blue n gold
steel ingot
also when your arch enemy is the space wolves well half your storys are getting that millstone around their neck
at least from my experience of the books
rancid cove
Magnus gets the breaks beaten off by Russ, shatters into warp fragments and they're basically useless all throughout the Heresy until the Siege of Terra where they decipher the wards on the palace
BECAUSE THEY WERE THE FUCKING SMALLEST LEGION
steel ingot
like man space wolves are so aura and no substance it pisses me off actually cause until i read the books i was under the assumption they were fairly cool
rancid cove
THEY HAD 800 MARINES
steel ingot
THATS NOT EVEN A THOUSAND SONS
rancid cove
EXACTLY
rancid cove
the only thing cool going on for them got fixed by Magnus which was the flesh mutation thing
ONLY FOR THEM TO JUST TURN INTO SPACE DUST INSIDE SUIT OF FUCKING ARMOR
steel ingot
like conceptually the only fellas having their flesh having constant mutations and having to hold onto their forms seems cool
heady rivet
Emperor's Children fun because they are prime for silly OC material
steel ingot
and like so much of warhammer lives and dies off this "in concept this is cool"
daring creek
the only thing cool going on for them got fixed by Magnus which was the flesh mu...
I mean tzeench is supposed to be frustrating no? So you hating them is lore accurate 
rancid cove
They look awesome tho
The majority don't
steel ingot
but like the SECOND you start putting it together its so ass
rancid cove
I mean tzeench is supposed to be frustrating no? So you hating them is lore accu...
No hes not supposed to be frustrating
arctic talon
like conceptually the only fellas having their flesh having constant mutations a...
Some of the sorcs have that going on still
In tsons
daring creek
Rubric marines are the ones I like
arctic talon
Mostly in the cult of change
daring creek
Idk about the rest
rancid cove
Space Wolfs at least had a theme in 30k
daring creek
steel ingot
i think also limiting your whole legion into "only the super magic guys can be characters the rest are actually dust boys" really limits what you can do or even tell with their stories
rancid cove
Tsons were just "oooo imperium unfair cause we da WISEST on things yet they HATE US"
steel ingot
which i think is the biggest thing
steel ingot
like even my least favorite loyalists you can still do characters and stories up and down the levels of their faction
rancid cove
i think also limiting your whole legion into "only the super magic guys can be c...
Yeah which is another thing that pmo bad for then
steel ingot
you cant write a book about the lowly rubric marine squad they're dust they dont even think
rancid cove
Apparently they do but they need to be controlled by a sorcerer because well
Dust doesnt have muscles
steel ingot
plus in 40k fashion all that smart trickery and schemery always just gets met with some big dumb moron just powering through it cause tha emprah so it never even fucking matters
now im mad too you're right magnus you fucking nerd
do you think the other daemon primarchs also think magnus is a big lame nerd
rancid cove
Tsons and Alpha Legion are my least liked legions overall me thinks
Plus Salamanders and Iron Hands
steel ingot
iron hands are my least favorite loyalists cause like
its a real what do you guys even do situation
forgotten child energy
rancid cove
Even the Khan and Sanguinius who were in support of the Librarius project werent really fond of him because he tried to rush the project
rancid cove
forgotten child energy
Literally LMFAO
vagrant fox
its a real what do you guys even do situation
They have fun
steel ingot
like if i wanted a metal based faction obssessed with replacing the weaker flesh with robot bits id play mechanicus again
rancid cove
They have fun
Ah at least, something cool the IH did
steel ingot
plus the red robes are cooler anyway
in defense of the salamanders uhhhhhhhh
i like them :)
rancid cove
I think my least liked loyalist legions are Sallies, Iron Hands and the Space Wolfs
steel ingot
they're green and perfer my favorite weapons
plus any loyalist faction that doesnt use the codex astartes gets 1+ points in my book
FUCK BOBBY G
all me and my homies hate bobby g
at least like nonstandard usage i mean
rancid cove
they're green and perfer my favorite weapons
They would be cooler if GW wrote more on them being pieces of shit instead of almost feeding into the memelore of "oooh did you know the Salamanders are the good guys?!!!?! They love regular humans!!!! And would prioritize minimizing human casualties!!!!"
steel ingot
i think it would work if at that same token they just constantly ate shit cause of it
then again i cant speak too much on the green boys
ive not read any of their material in years
rancid cove
I dont mind the Ultramarines that much anymore because theyre carried solely by guilliman
Calgar can fuck off and die on a ditch
Cato Sicarius SUCKS
Titus is a BITCH
Gadriel is the best
steel ingot
calgars working on shitting himself to death give him time
rancid cove
Malum Caedo carried for beaky helm
steel ingot
calgar combat toliet model
rancid cove
Uriel Ventris is cool ig
hallow saddle
its a real what do you guys even do situation
idk theyre emotionaly damaged cyborgs, thats cool & interesting in my book
rancid cove
idk theyre emotionaly damaged cyborgs, thats cool & interesting in my book
Just play mechanicus
steel ingot
i mean in defense of iron hands ive also not read their material in years
so maybe they are cool
hallow saddle
Just play mechanicus
no...
steel ingot
please its fun
near wasp
Cato Sicarius SUCKS
You talking old cato or new cato
storm jungle
Id like Iron Hands more if their fans werent so obnoxious ngl
rancid cove
You talking old cato or new cato
Old
rancid cove
Id like Iron Hands more if their fans werent so obnoxious ngl
The EVIL TWINK WILL PAY The EVIL TWINK WILL PAYThe EVIL TWINK WILL PAYThe EVIL TWINK WILL PAY
heady rivet
Id like Iron Hands more if their fans werent so obnoxious ngl
All 2 of em
steel ingot
i think some people are somewhat affected by both ultramarine fatigue and also TTS sladner overtaking actual facts
rancid cove
storm jungle
All 2 of em
2 too many
hallow saddle
GW could do interesting things with IH, theres more than enough to build off, but they wont do anything
steel ingot
it doesnt help iron hands are also the like
rancid cove
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054486888595083294/1493478065836392569/M...
Shut the fuck up
storm jungle
where whenever we say this shit he just went
"They got lots of cool lore yall just gotta read it"
then lists like-
the most obscure shit
hallow saddle
3 books
storm jungle
random ass books from 15 years ago
steel ingot
it would really be nice if there was more silver
hallow saddle
and some short stories
rancid cove
"They got lots of cool lore yall just gotta read it"
3 HH books that were released 15 years ago
storm jungle
"Marine is an asshole"
near wasp
I like iron hands conception
steel ingot
again iron hands live in the "cool in concept" area that so much of 40k lives in
hallow saddle
the 40k iron hands are cool
lists a bunch of 30k shit (all of which fuckin sucks apart from Autek Mor btw)
steel ingot
and i think thats okay
storm jungle
>the 40k iron hands are cool
>lists a bunch of 30k shit (all of which fuckin suc...
my perception of Iron Hands begins and ends at "I think they are cool."
I wont go out of my way to slander or defend them lol
hallow saddle
whats the opposite of peak cause 30k iron hands are that
shitty writing all the time
arctic talon
I’ll only defend them if someone says their color scheme is ass
heady rivet
I think the interesting part about the Iron Hands is they pulled a Naked Snake level of misunderstanding to a decently simple statement and philosophy
arctic talon
whats the opposite of peak cause 30k iron hands are that
Dogshit
storm jungle
I’ll only defend them if someone says their color scheme is ass
bro
ITS JUST BLACK
AND SILVER
storm jungle
WHATS THERE TO DEFEND
arctic talon
A scheme
steel ingot
I think the interesting part about the Iron Hands is they pulled a Naked Snake l...
MANY SUCH CASES
arctic talon
Smh
storm jungle
its literally vanilla ice cream
heady rivet
ITS JUST **BLACK**
Got a problem with that? Reported.
storm jungle
Got a problem with that? Reported.
BRUH
hallow saddle
ur jusst thinking of plain marines though
vagrant fox
vanilla ice cream is nice
arctic talon
hallow saddle
IH can be augmented out the ass so their sillhouette can be way different than a normal marine
but yeah black
heady rivet
Me too...
steel ingot
we dont like your kind here says the raven guard to the iron hands despite the fact i painted them just by airbrushing them both black and nobody noticed
storm jungle
Say NO to racism, Dilara
rancid cove
my perception of Iron Hands begins and ends at "I think they are cool."
I wont ...
They're cool in concept but holy shit there is nothing to them besides "father got decapitated by evil twink"
The concept of their augmentations end at the fact there is barely any mentions outside of some artworks
storm jungle
we dont like your kind here says the raven guard to the iron hands despite the f...
LMFAO
christ
rancid cove
And codexes
heady rivet
storm jungle
They're cool in concept but holy shit there is nothing to them besides "father g...
They are imperial fists but black painted and got bionics
arctic talon
https://youtube.com/shorts/hKcwnIXTF6g
Lmao
hallow saddle
true
steel ingot
look the raven guard have the genitically goth thing that really is quite hilarious to me and also i just really like jump pack assault units
arctic talon
Gsc vs gsc mirror match ?????
storm jungle
raven guard are the funniest imo
rancid cove
They are imperial fists but black painted and got bionics
Even Imperial Fists have something more to them and its not even that much
steel ingot
so they are the superial all black faction
arctic talon
Raven guard are hypocrites
storm jungle
"we hate tyrants"
literally hitler's greatest soldiers
arctic talon
Which is funny
steel ingot
black templars well we shouldnt say anything about them
rancid cove
"we hate tyrants"
>literally hitler's greatest soldiers
We HATE tyrants that isnt our father or his father
steel ingot
lest we summon some feral black templar fan
storm jungle
BT are good as a faction
their fanbase tho
oof
lmao
"I HATE WHEN GW MAKES MY EVIL FACTION EVIL REEEE"
rancid cove
their fanbase tho
"I AM ADOLF HITLER!"
steel ingot
i kidna think they're funny when other factions get weirded by them
like they're extra even for other space marines its kinda hysterical
heady rivet
Gsc vs gsc mirror match ?????
steel ingot
then again i have been throwing stones from glass houses my favorites are imperial fists
arctic talon
then again i have been throwing stones from glass houses my favorites are imperi...
Ha boring everyone point and laugh/j
steel ingot
they were my favorites as a kid cause of their extremely loud ass color scheme
steel ingot
and as an adult i like them cause they spawned the coolest successors, have some of my favorite stories, and their loud ass color scheme
plush mason
could a space marine get infected with the genestealer's mutating parasite?
steel ingot
plus i think the way their successors really are just mini imperial fists with splintered doctrine in a way i think fits the assignment better than other successors
just always felt like a more fitting representation of the "platonic idea of a space marine" as oppossed to blood angels and ultramarines
rancid cove
BT are good as a faction
The BT are a cool chapter because they do have a cool aesthetic, they do have a consistent gimmick that is very well explored (imo) and even some cool characters
They just have a bad rep because of bigot "fans"
steel ingot
i think its great that one of the loyalist factions in general are just crazy people
at least from my run ins with them in books n stuff
storm jungle
The BT are a cool chapter because they do have a cool aesthetic, they do have a ...
basically yeah
their entire idea and joke is they are based on marauding murderer templars from IRL lol
rancid cove
i think its great that one of the loyalist factions in general are just crazy pe...
"Fuck it, we ball" the chapter
steel ingot
and again i cant knock em too much they are the most statistically successful successor of my main guys
even if the crimson fists are cooler
all one of them left
rancid cove
their entire idea and joke is they are based on marauding murderer templars from...
GW did NOT try to make it nuanced as well
heady rivet
I love the Red Scorpions 
rancid cove
Its hard to tier favorite chapters
steel ingot
i mean in reality IF are my favorite loyalist legion my actual favorite chapter are of course the blood ravens sound the air horns its their time to shine for the first time ever in a game that will TOTALLY be good this time
and not get usurped by the lion being there
rancid cove
I think mine
Flesh Tearers, Red Scorpions, Black Templars, Mantis Warriors and Angels Vermillion (not in order)
rose thorn
Looks like we might get an admech background?
rancid cove
I think mine
Flesh Tearers, Red Scorpions, Black Templars, Mantis Warriors and A...
Plus Minotaurs and Marines Malevolent
steel ingot
like i have enjoyed that outside of their games blood ravens have gotten some fun lore here and there
rancid cove
i mean in reality IF are my favorite loyalist *legion* my actual favorite chapte...
I hope the BR get completely outshines by Lion and the DA
steel ingot
and their kinda nuts habits of constantly eating shit and slipping on banana peels of their own making just makes me love them
storm jungle
Looks like we might get an admech background?
he comes pre-pregnant?
now THATS crazy
storm jungle
🗣️
rancid cove
he comes pre-pregnant?
They mpregged my mechanicus companion 🥀
plush mason
Looks like we might get an admech background?
i hope so, thats what i have been wanting
heady rivet
He's an item based companion. Milk.
quiet orchid
I think mine
Flesh Tearers, Red Scorpions, Black Templars, Mantis Warriors and A...
but flesh tearers stills on top?
steel ingot
but yeah i love that the blood ravens are just ecletict weirdos who always find themselves in the worst position and never ever ever make it better
heady rivet
but flesh tearers stills on top?
No they get backshots they arent tops
steel ingot
like did you know they were on cadia when it fell, and their lead librarian got a vision of the planet being destroyed so they all left and didnt tell anyone why so it just looked like they were fleeing cowards
great stuff
quiet orchid
No they get backshots they arent tops
idc, i love their brutality!!
limpid granite
Looks like we might get an admech background?
this isnt an origin
steel ingot
or how the torch bearer to make them primaris showed up in the dark imperium to find them and gabriel angelos decided to beef with the guy cause "how tf did you get our secret gene seed bro" and he almost ended up denying them the right
limpid granite
however you will have augments as the new mechanic
raven stone
I am drunk from a pint of Apple Cider (UK cider is alcoholic) and I am feeling emotionally upset about being single even though logically I know there is nothing wrong with that...
And I am not even sure why I wanted to share that here. But man I probably shouldn't drink if all is does is bring me painful feelings
steel ingot
like they're loosers its GREAT
limpid granite
also they "might" have techpriest as an origin in dark heresy
steel ingot
thats not even getting into their DISASTROUS campaign history from the games, like never have i seen a chapter with such a horrible track record i fucking love it
professional stupid morons
winged jacinth
I am drunk from a pint of Apple Cider (UK cider is alcoholic) and I am feeling e...
(american cider is often alcoholic, the nonalcoholic version is a recent invention. there is no point to this message)
rose thorn
this isnt an origin
When we got the arbitratior origin with lex imperalis along side the arbitratior ally so maybe we get an admech one with the admech ally
limpid granite
When we got the arbitratior origin with lex imperalis along side the arbitratior...
nah they wouldve told us so in the marketing already
winged jacinth
its gonna be cool when rt is done
steel ingot
bros were too busy anihilating imperial guardsmen on kronus to pay attention to the fucking tau getting ready to slaughter them
limpid granite
i hope for the processional you get a daemonhost companion that uses sorcery as an archetype
raven stone
When we got the arbitratior origin with lex imperalis along side the arbitratior...
Wait we talk Darktide or something else
limpid granite
rogue trader
steel ingot
When we got the arbitratior origin with lex imperalis along side the arbitratior...
based on the pattern itll likely be a class than an origin similar to kibellahs bladedancer stuff
rose thorn
Rogue trader.
winged jacinth
the tau should be a menace i will fight for this until my last day
steel ingot
i mean in the right circumstances they absolutely are
winged jacinth
space marines when the enemy small arms penetrate power armor 
limpid granite
like sorcery would be really cool as an alternative to psyker powers
steel ingot
some people will often point to the ultramarines killing the fuck outta the tau the first time they made their big swings but might i remind you the tau penetrated all the way into the ultramar sector before being pushed back like they made HUGE swings on their first day out to bat against big foes
arctic talon
Processional of the damned isn’t super warpy
As a place
It is creepy as fuck
But not a ton of warp shenanigans
plush mason
based on the pattern itll likely be a class than an origin similar to kibellahs ...
true but void shadows also didnt add any new origins, kibellah is a voidborn
limpid granite
true but void shadows also didnt add any new origins, kibellah is a voidborn
also heavily in denial about being a psyker
winged jacinth
some people will often point to the ultramarines killing the fuck outta the tau ...
the tau literally have less worlds than the ultramarines chapter lmao
steel ingot
i hope dark heresy includes the dark heresy ttrpg random event of the roaming sentient star that causes bad things to happen
limpid granite
i hope dark heresy includes the dark heresy ttrpg random event of the roaming se...
the tyrant star is the main focus of the game considering its dead center in the animated trailer
plush mason
i hope dark heresy includes the dark heresy ttrpg random event of the roaming se...
the tyrant star is the focus of the game's campaign
steel ingot
HUNHR
steel ingot
sorry i havent been looking at the trailers im sorta conflicted cause of personal reasons against the ceo
plush mason
fair
limpid granite
steel ingot
AI hocking moron if you will
limpid granite
night lords are the marine antagonists
steel ingot
and we'll leave it at that
winged jacinth
even if i buy dark heresy it will be after they release all the DLC
steel ingot
at least there's an ogryn
winged jacinth
ive learned my lesson
steel ingot
dunno why they never showed up in rogue trader
limpid granite
yeah dark heresy will be a wait and see for me
winged jacinth
and i know from playing WOTR that im never going to play an owlcat game twice
arctic talon
lol
steel ingot
ALSO i hope the game isn't filled to the brim with vestigial limbs of cut content like rogue trader is
steel ingot
kinda pisses me the fuck off beyond belief how much the cutting room floor is just the damn coutnertop with these idiots
winged jacinth
the lifestyle
winged jacinth
owlcat games are for having weird shit in them and breaking the character customization
steel ingot
like what the fuck do you mean reject the flesh level incriments are still entirely within the game code and ready to be used for pasqal but you just didnt include it
arctic talon
If we count all the mini campaigns it’s more
lol
Also reject the flesh is used by NPC admech mobs
So it being in the code makes sense
winged jacinth
they also use the levels
arctic talon
Yeah
steel ingot
yes but there's levels to it that his armor types benifit from specifically having higher levels
steel ingot
why would it even mention "your reject the flesh level" if you cant even fucking increase it
steel ingot
lets how yrliets whole story line can break and loop into itself and keep teleporting you back to quetza tamer
limpid granite
arctic talon
Rogue trader is less buggy then Wrath of the righteous and kingmaker
And that’s good enough for me
Owlcats writing is good
plush mason
https://tenor.com/view/night-lords-40k-warhammer-night-lord-gif-9740099160118555...
the fact they are literally a side antag is the best part
storm jungle
Son.....😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
arctic talon
Even if their games are jankish
steel ingot
i mean i complain a ton but like
storm jungle
Did you fucking make this
yea totally
winged jacinth
Tbh they probably decided it didn't make sense for pasqal to level up reject the flesh without extensive surgery
storm jungle
the digicamo medic is killing me
Emperor's best perpetual pal Epsteinius did NOT die for this....
🥀
plush mason
those eagles need more cybertics
arctic talon
Emperor's best perpetual pal Epsteinius did NOT die for this....
He was actually a haemonculi all along and is living his best life in comorroagh
storm jungle
He was actually a haemonculi all along and is living his best life in comorroagh
apparently the emperor deleted this after posting it on ImperiumSocial
chat is this true
storm jungle
limpid granite
i do hope dark heresy goes even harder into weird stuff
arctic talon
Procession of the damned has Orks, Rak’gol and The Hollow Men™
As the shit in it
So I’m not expecting chaosy stuff
limpid granite
inb4 11th edition weirdboy that has a fieldwide aoe that adds 1 injury
arctic talon
Well the Rak’gol
Are chaosy
But we’re prolly not gona see Rak’gol or hollow men
lol
arctic talon
i do hope dark heresy goes even harder into weird stuff
Tbh they have a deranged conspiracy theory board for the PC to use
I think they will lol
limpid granite
inb4 a necromancer
limpid granite
im guessing orks will be dark heresy
arctic talon
I want all 3
But processional of the damned was mostly Rak’gol and Hollow Men
With some Orks
steel ingot
when is an ork gonna be at the heart of the conspiracy
arctic talon
steel ingot
every time its orks being played by eldar or chaos or someone else i m big an green an smart
(i mean i know why)
plush mason
But processional of the damned was mostly Rak’gol and Hollow Men
i want a hollow man comp when that dlc comes out, will GW allow that very likely not but idc and it would be funny as all hell
arctic talon
Tbh
Hollow Men aren’t even like
normal
They don’t talk
They just salvage shit, for something
And they kill and stalk people and drag them away
limpid granite
inb4 hrud in the processional that reduces you max health each turn by 30% in an aoe around it
arctic talon
hollow man ? the kevin bacon movie?
No
Hollow Men are a weird xenos(?) race that hangs out in the processional
steel ingot
you can see kevin bacons little bacon in that movie you know
arctic talon
They use armor and space suits of a variety of species
And they kind of just salvage shit, for some unknown purpose
And then they kill people who disturb them or “trespass”
And drag their bodies and gear away
limpid granite
giant enormous massive space laser
steel ingot
trying to remember who this reminds me of
limpid granite
inb4 hollow men are jokaero
arctic talon
They’re like generic creepy horror things
steel ingot
there's another game that has a faction gathering weird stuff and mutant samples for no given reason
arctic talon
They even like
steel ingot
but it escapes me
arctic talon
Walk around slowly lol
Also their suits are hollow, there’s nothing inside
Get it
Hollow men?
Eh?
plush mason
the classic astronaut ghosts
steel ingot
no no not 40k
fucking
im thinking of the line about the collectors from mass effect 2
steel ingot
where they go around buying mutant slaves from batarians to experiment on them
plush mason
Also the Orks and Rak’gol don’t like them either
how did the orks even get in the processional?
steel ingot
they try really hard
arctic talon
how did the orks even get in the processional?
They flew over around it and saw a fuck ton of gubbinz
So they setup shop to salvage as well
Same with the Rak’gol
The Rak’gol have a love of reusing other peoples tech
And the processional is a goldmine of tech
plush mason
ah i see, i was hoping one of their space hulks got pulled in by whatever the fuck is at the center of it
limpid granite
And the processional is a goldmine of tech
im hoping that the augment system gets expanded in the processional then
like imagine archeotech bionics
arctic talon
The Rak’gol seem to have an easy way in and out of the processional
It’s unclear what it is though
But they’re a bunch of chaos worshiping cyborg salvagers
So they prolly figured something out
plush mason
Would be funny though
i can see it now, the captain goes to yell at the mek boy demanding to know where they ended up, only to look outside and forget all about that lol
limpid granite
the rogue trader having the amazing idea of bringing a weirdboy onboard
steel ingot
i wonder who the GW mandated space marine ally will be
limpid granite
(somehow you can use him in the astropath ritual)
steel ingot
everybody hangs out in the calixis sector so it could really be anyone
plush mason
i wonder who the GW mandated space marine ally will be
RT always has one so thats been covered
steel ingot
yeah maybe
arctic talon
i wonder who the GW mandated space marine ally will be
Deathwatch or Crimson Hunters
steel ingot
he'd prolly be on the cover if they were gonna
steel ingot
but still as i said everyone hangs out in the calixis
arctic talon
he'd prolly be on the cover if they were gonna
Tbf Ulfar was kept a secret for a long ass time
lol
plush mason
oh you mean for dark heresy
arctic talon
yes
steel ingot
with how much he's on every version of the cover
arctic talon
Ulfar wasn't revealed until the game was almost out
steel ingot
you'd think
arctic talon
nah
they used a dif cover
earlier on
I think its gona be someone part of Deathwatch or a Red Hunter
plush mason
yeah the cover art wasnt revealed until the game was just about to launch
arctic talon
Prolly deathwatch lol
steel ingot
a friend of mine says we'll get stuck with a dark angel or something but i think thats a stretch
steel ingot
good change best pr space wolves have gotten for me in years
i realy do enjoy his story and relation to the other wolves
limpid granite
Deathwatch or Crimson Hunters
Imagine a fucking blackshield as a companion
arctic talon
honestly that would be great
steel ingot
kinda hilarious they all go into the maw and die but you know its whatever
arctic talon
having some creepy ass black shield lol
limpid granite
Like a former alpha legion marine
steel ingot
god not onnna those narcissists
arctic talon
The Dark heresy companions all seem to get along decently so far
Which is hilarious
steel ingot
should be able to say like "you deserved to all die in the eye of terror"
limpid granite
Red scorpion blackshield or mantis warrior blackshield lmfao
plush mason
isnt the cabal in dark heresy mainly an ordo xenos one?
steel ingot
so the cool guys
limpid granite
Your an inquisitorial acolyte under anton zerbe
arctic talon
whos noted
steel ingot
the cool ordo xenos guys
arctic talon
but you can cook up your own for homebrew reasons
steel ingot
who are cooler
limpid granite
Hes smart
steel ingot
average inquisitor
plush mason
giant wig man
arctic talon
He is smart
limpid granite
He makes sure that all of his inquisitor groups under him hold the same power
arctic talon
but his ideology is batshit insane and hilarious
steel ingot
average inquisitor binding a daemon to some dude on his ship to help him but would NEVER EVER EVER touch a shuriken catapult
limpid granite
Going as far as to sabotage or help his acolytes
arctic talon
"yes you can use the tormented souls of 1000 psykers as long as you kill that guy who is summoning a fucking daemon"
arctic talon
average inquisitor binding a daemon to some dude on his ship to help him but wou...
Tbh looks like the Ordo Xenos representitive in Dark heresy CRPG is a radical
she's got eldar grenades
lol
steel ingot
this is unironically how grey knights think
limpid granite
He says that if a single group hold more power over the others it can cause a civil war
plush mason
but his ideology is batshit insane and hilarious
could be worse, could be an issvanian
limpid granite
Now give me my savant warrior with a daemonhammer in dark heresy
steel ingot
fucking name a bigger gathering of fuckass nerds than grey knights
limpid granite
Do techpriest psykers show up?
arctic talon
could be worse, could be an issvanian
there is one of those ingame btw
steel ingot
makes me mad i was moving countries during the playtest
arctic talon
The Mechanicus iss to turn over all psykers
plush mason
there is one of those ingame btw
good, i can call them an idiot to their face
steel ingot
didnt get to touch it
arctic talon
but the Inqusitors who Owlcat have official shown off are
steel ingot
you know what i just fucking thought about
limpid granite
only via Psychic awakening
So most likely if there is a techpriest origin it cant flow into savant?
arctic talon
Radical Xenos, Radical Hereticus, Puritan Malleus, Moderate Hereticus
steel ingot
time and location allow, you know waht fuckass space marine faction could show up as your ally
arctic talon
Though the one Puritan Malleus guy
steel ingot
blood ravens baby sound the air horns
arctic talon
is fucking deranged
and thinks that the galaxy is going to end
and went to Calaxis to see it happen
so he could be there when it all begins
This is from the ttrpg btw 💀
plush mason
blood ravens baby sound the air horns
those fuckers would try to steal the damn tyrant star
steel ingot
you'd learn about how it works and they'd be jacking your cogitator data with malware like "guys i told you knowledge is power"
GET OUT ‼️
limpid granite
those fuckers would try to steal the damn tyrant star
Inb4 they steal anton's signet ring
That would be an insane feat
arctic talon
as a necklace
limpid granite
They di it because ita funny
plush mason
they would just steal Anton
limpid granite
Dont even need to wear it
limpid granite
Inb4 blood raven marine that can use chaos marine equipment in dark heresy
steel ingot
is that a stout crazy fat man in a running chicken leg chair
arctic talon
yes
steel ingot
how many dumbasses in 40k have walking chairs
limpid granite
they do in dawn of war 2 !
Blood ravens somebow not being seen as traitors whilst having a chaos civil war the most chaos artifacts of any chapters and a chaos chapter master
arctic talon
how many dumbasses in 40k have walking chairs
many
vagrant fox
Isn't the chicken leg guy called something like Globus
arctic talon
Blood ravens somebow not being seen as traitors whilst having a chaos civil war ...
tbf the chaos artifiacts are gameplay(mostly)
steel ingot
mobility scooter ass faction humanity
arctic talon
Yes
plush mason
someone made a political compass for the Inquisitors in Dark heresy
GW really did just go "which hunters in fantasy where badass, lets just put them in 40k"
arctic talon
e's literally called Globus
lol
his name is Globus Vark
or something iirc
as far as inqusitors go he's a pretty nice guy™
limpid granite
I do wonder how theyll treat the different ordos in dark heresy
I would like to be ordo xenos
vagrant fox
Yeah Globus Vaarak, great guy
plush mason
as far as inqusitors go he's a pretty nice guy™
yeah that doesnt say much, the bar is somewhere below hell for that category
steel ingot
this guys silhouette immediately made me think of the true legend
arctic talon
He just wants to see the end
steel ingot
thought you were him...
arctic talon
I would like to be ordo xenos
I'd assume you'd get to pick once you get "promoted" or something
once you're less under zerbe's thumb
steel ingot
ever since i saw his ass in a snipe and wib lore video almost 10 years ago ive always kept him in my heart
limpid granite
Unc still got it!
plush mason
this guys silhouette immediately made me think of the true legend
thats just saltspyer in 40k
vagrant fox
Ahmazzi knows what's good, guy did nothing wrong
daring creek
https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-dawn-of-war-blood-ravens-warhammer40k-tactic...
Red ultramarine my beloved
vagrant fox
Although, believing the Emperor is actually dead and chaos cannot be stopped might be doing some wrong
arctic talon
Unc still got it!
Tbh he thinks the Imperium is doomed(he's right)
and humanity must die for the galaxy to be reborn anew with a better fighting chance against chaos(he might be right)
steel ingot
so what you're telling me is bureaucratic bullshit dealing with 9 different lead inqusitors on your quest is like a lead mechanic
rancid cove
Red ultramarine my beloved
Im going to block you one day
arctic talon
so what you're telling me is bureaucratic bullshit dealing with 9 different lead...
Maybe, we've only seen 5 of them so far
steel ingot
bro its a sentient star
limpid granite
Inb4 a shard of the emperor containing his wrath
steel ingot
just numerous misc gods
plush mason
they might just use the actual dark heresy campaign book
arctic talon
well
the Tyrant star never gets explained
in that lol beyond its chaosy
which they might also stick to
steel ingot
WELL i mean if you get specific what is and isnt a god is complicated
limpid granite
Imagine its a primordial being like the old ones and necrontyr
steel ingot
are ctans gods ? well yeah functionally but also are they actually uhrm well uh
daring creek
Im going to block you one day
steel ingot
inside the tyrant star? one of the frogs
plush mason
the Tyrant star never gets explained
the ending is literally the players deciding what to do with it, kill the guy controlling it or let him free
limpid granite
The tyrant star is actualy a spirit bomb
arctic talon
lmao
steel ingot
lend me your energy
limpid granite
vagrant fox
I forget, when the star appears did it cause spontaneous mutation or was it more psykers
plush mason
both
vagrant fox
hum
limpid granite
I forget, when the star appears did it cause spontaneous mutation or was it more...
In the trailer people combusted into flames
plush mason
as well as general violence and paranoia
arctic talon
I forget, when the star appears did it cause spontaneous mutation or was it more...
all of the above
The Tyrant star does bad stuff
plush mason
basically everyone on the planet goes a little insane
vagrant fox
Wonder why I remembered it being either or
arctic talon
https://youtube.com/shorts/z_gsgzfa-XI?si=4irC7VsUCGnW9wrq
youtube shortsslop has begun for AoS
RUN
we gona get the story on how the Ogors ate ghosts now
steel ingot
guys im a huge fucking lame horrible awful nerd who still holds a grudge against AoS despite its ultimate victory should i just start reading its lore already
vagrant fox
It has some neat stuff
steel ingot
< still mad about it
arctic talon
guys im a huge fucking lame horrible awful nerd who still holds a grudge against...
I would read the 4e or 3e core rulebook
tbh
I like AoS quite a lot
vagrant fox
Don't be mad at AoS, be mad at James Workshop
raven stone
guys im a huge fucking lame horrible awful nerd who still holds a grudge against...
I mean I am still mad about Primaris Marines, so I feel you bro
arctic talon
Its much much much more High Fantasy then WHFB though
lol
500 more years of Primaris discourse
I'm so fucking tired of it
steel ingot
LMAO
arctic talon
iTS ALMOST BEEN 10 YEARS NOW
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHFB died because it was dying both in sales and as a game unfortunately
if it had done well enough finanically during end times
steel ingot
no like as a huge dwarf head, love me boys of da peaks, love ma grey dorf, love me mountains
steel ingot
and now its all gone so like yeah im still peeved
arctic talon
endtimesd it
limpid granite
Also the owlcat server melting down over a second techpriest companion
arctic talon
lol
vagrant fox
WHFB was only 20 years old, just a fucken kid
rocky gale
AoS is better than WHFB and Primaris are better than Firstborn. There discourse settled.
steel ingot
HWAT
rocky gale
It's not gasoline, it's sand
arctic talon
she's like the number 3 grifter
rocky gale
I dumped sand
vagrant fox
The real problem with AoS is that it doesn't have the nostalgia factor, or Mark of Chaos
steel ingot
yeah well anyways iunno like i have an established history and knowledge of fantasy that exists and AoS from what i understand is like
not that
arctic talon
<:porosad:908453444304642068>
vagrant fox
what the hell is that thing
arctic talon
its a Poro
vagrant fox
destroy it
arctic talon
hugging a Noxian soldiers leg
steel ingot
But also like urhm ah urm
those sigmarite gold statue dudes look lame as fucking hell !
arctic talon
yeah well anyways iunno like i have an established history and knowledge of fant...
AoS has its own established in unvierse timeline
you wana know the dark truth about Stormcast Chriss
they were planned for WHFB
limpid granite
Belly full of soup
arctic talon
and its way more apparent with the original concept art for them lol
rocky gale
You can also just ignore them, it's not like Space Marines where they're 90% of the setting
steel ingot
true
arctic talon
limpid granite
Also most likely eogunn will be a support companion
steel ingot
im trying to lighten up on AoS cause like my avenues to do fantasy old world stuff is uh dwindling lol
arctic talon
I think the final stormcast aesthetic is good
vagrant fox
Yeah that's just order warriors
steel ingot
so i gotta get with the times
arctic talon
im trying to lighten up on AoS cause like my avenues to do fantasy old world stu...
well you got Old World™
and TWWHFB
steel ingot
no as in my area lol
vagrant fox
The distinctly Blanche Stormcast is pretty cool
plush mason
those sigmarite gold statue dudes look lame as fucking hell !
just do what i do and make them silver
limpid granite
@arctic talon inb4 eogunn gives abelard a movement speed buff because of his servo knee lol
arctic talon
Anyways I'd get the AoS 2e -> 4e core rulebook in a legal way
plush mason
because silver looks a hell of a lot better than gold imho
steel ingot
but yeah as a dorfman through and through iunno where to start cause i dont know like anything at all at this point
arctic talon
see if you like em
arctic talon
but yeah as a dorfman through and through iunno where to start cause i dont know...
Cities of Sigmar 2e
steel ingot
especially since everything ive ever seen of AoS is just humans vs rats
arctic talon
Cities of Sigmar are Dwarf/Elf/Human soup
steel ingot
for like 5 years
limpid granite
My joke got ignored😭
vagrant fox
This is sick, I like it more than how the stormcast look now
arctic talon
Who are Steampunk blimmp Dorfs
limpid granite
Btw are rogue traders or the inquisition more likely to use daemonhosts?
rocky gale
Inquisition tbh
vagrant fox
I'd say inquisition
limpid granite
Hmmm
arctic talon
limpid granite
Maybe a daemonhost companion in dark heresy
arctic talon
Btw are rogue traders or the inquisition more likely to use daemonhosts?
inqusition
steel ingot
ah naur what the hell is this
rocky gale
Sky Dwarves
arctic talon
ah naur what the hell is this
fly you coward smh
steel ingot
who tf tied my dwarf to some baloons and lawn chairs
rocky gale
They're just one of the Dwarf factions, they aren't all like that
spring cairn
they're also the best one
vagrant fox
You heard it, they're all like that
rocky gale
They mine a form of gold that's lighter than air and use it to make flying ships and armour
arctic talon
if you want normal Dwarfs the Dispossessed are that
limpid granite
Also related to dwarf news
raven stone
who tf tied my dwarf to some baloons and lawn chairs
AoS has a lot of weird re-names and unique (or “unique” depending on point of view) designs for the sake of better GW copyright protection (TM)
steel ingot
kharadon overlords be like
limpid granite
Zoltan's voice actor passed away
arctic talon
Zoltan's voice actor passed away
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
rocky gale
Unfortunately Dispossessed are kinda unrepresented atm
steel ingot
my problem always is gonna be being too stuck in old ways
rocky gale
That's the one
steel ingot
new thing bad is really hard to shake
rocky gale
Like at the minute this is the only Dispossesed model we've got
vagrant fox
why is the image so big but he's so small
Dwarfs are small
raven stone
But where are all their new models
Be GW
Declare “Year of Dwarfs”
Relases one box set for Votann, AoS Knaradon overlords, and Old Fantasy dwarves each
calls the year a “great success.”
limpid granite
why is the image so big but he's so small
Cause hes a dwarf duh
steel ingot
walked into that one
arctic talon
steel ingot
dude he looks fucking zoinked
vagrant fox
Fuckin Drolf? Whoever birthed him named him Drolf?
steel ingot
what is he smoking
arctic talon
this is his size
arctic talon
what is he smoking
Alcohol
limpid granite
Ironbreaker mentioned
arctic talon
if the next wave of Cities of Sigmar
isn't Dwarfs or Elves
I'm going to fucking kill someone at GW
rocky gale
You're right, we do need another release wave for Cities of Sigmar
The Cogfort wasn't enough, reveal it now GW
steel ingot
you're right, 100 billion more models to ultramarines
near wasp
Ooooo catacan for dark heresey
steel ingot
somehow those damn frogs are responsible for all of this
i just know it
mazamundi when i get your ass
arctic talon
but yeah Duradin/Dawi/Dwarves/whwatever the fuck you wana use for them
are around still in AoS
they're under cities of sigmar for the more "traditional" style
steel ingot
man AoS marketing is like total ass then
arctic talon
With Kharadon and Fyreslayers being weird
limpid granite
The slaan are the reason your rogue trader melee hits get parried
arctic talon
man AoS marketing is like total ass then
Tbf the issue is they're mostly using old minis so GW doesn't want to advertise them 💀
steel ingot
for the last half decade my only image of AoS is gold men fighting endless rats with increasingly large contraptions
arctic talon
for the last half decade my only image of AoS is gold men fighting endless rats ...
tbf
if you only saw 40k's trailers
that is exactly what you would think
lol
steel ingot
true
arctic talon
AoS has a lot of non Stormcast stuff
steel ingot
when was the last time an eldar was in anything advertised
silly monkeigh we operate behind the scenes thus we will not appear in marketing material
arctic talon
when was the last time an eldar was in anything advertised
the Maelstrom stuff
lfor animated stuff idfk
near wasp
silly elf
vagrant fox
What's the AoS equivalent of reiksguard, love those guys
steel ingot
big dig swagger with my giant halberd
arctic talon
arctic talon
What's the AoS equivalent of reiksguard, love those guys
The Freeguild™
who do have people who look like they're from the fuckin Reiksguard
lol
vagrant fox
hmm
arctic talon
vagrant fox
Name is beans but I can live with it
steel ingot
not a halberd in sight 😔
arctic talon
the freeguild aesthetic on the tabletop is one specific freeguild
arctic talon
not a halberd in sight 😔
here's your dang halberd smh
steel ingot
i just remember hearing tales of reiksguard halberders on tabletop as a kid
and how annoying they were
daring creek
anyone here play clash of clans
steel ingot
yars
limpid granite
Power halberd when
daring creek
You said you played clash of clans
steel ingot
this image genuinely pisses me off my day was so good then bam you show me this
arctic talon
i just remember hearing tales of reiksguard halberders on tabletop as a kid
They're like the one good Infantry unit Empire has
because empires whole gimmick
is you have very mediocre infantry
meant to hold the line
and then you fucking shoot the shit out of them
lol
vagrant fox
Some of these Freeguild Cavaliers are cool, some of them a bit less so
steel ingot
ah so like total war
arctic talon
yeah
but total war has them like
way better
they can actually win in fights in Total war against chaos warriors
Do not let Chosen reach your fucking line in the tabletop lmao
vagrant fox
The chaff is there to hold a line for a bit and die as you pound the enemy with good stuff
very zased
arctic talon
They will just eat your goddamn Reiksguard like chickenwings
if you have foot knights
they can do better
vagrant fox
The other warhammers could never achieve this soul
near wasp
Missus likes feet confirmed
arctic talon
but yeah the freeguild have a bunch of dif fucking aesthetics
daring creek
Is that a shock to anyone
arctic talon
same with CoS's as a whole
steel ingot
quintsential warhammer will always be those old ork models
bigass fucking faced weirdos
arctic talon
the tabletop CoS are meant to represent Hammerhal Aqsha
near wasp
Still gonna shame you for it
daring creek
Really?
vagrant fox
yea
vagrant fox
but yeah the freeguild have a bunch of dif fucking aesthetics
The helmets bring it down, tell GW to improve it
arctic talon
lol
near wasp
Yeah but it's feet 💀
daring creek
Yeah but it's feet 💀
Buddy
arctic talon
this guy is my favorite cities of simgar knight
daring creek
That is literally one of the top normalest things to like these days
arctic talon
fuckin b i r d
steel ingot
ptak...
arctic talon
arctic talon
I also do like how AoS has kept up knights using distinct armor and shit
also tbf Aelf is an actual fucking word
lol
rocky gale
post smarf
arctic talon
I like the new footknights
steel ingot
i wonder if fantasy/AoS decline just has to do with like fantasy stuff not fairing as well these days overall with modern audiences
arctic talon
i wonder if fantasy/AoS decline just has to do with like fantasy stuff not fairi...
AoS is doing great
rocky gale
AoS hasn't declined
arctic talon
WHFB was doing like shit because the game played like shit
💀
and the minis were old
vagrant fox
Iarmoth character
arctic talon
Like
AoS is the third best selling tabletop wargame
globally rn
and its catching up to battletech 💀
vagrant fox
Yeah AoS is fine, has cool bits, don't fall for the lies. Unfortunately it just doesn't draw me much for some reason
steel ingot
HOW IS BATTLETECH STILL SELLING
arctic talon
Yeah if you don't like AoS thats fine
arctic talon
HOW IS BATTLETECH STILL SELLING
cheap, fun
lol
model quality is like
total ass mostly
daring creek
< plays it all the time
this is the issue
steel ingot
im using hand me down models from my dad from like
arctic talon
but the ease of entry cannot be overstated
steel ingot
2000s
daring creek
playing bad vidya
arctic talon
yeah
lul
also fucking Fantasy flamethrower lmao
the skaven no longer have a monoply on warcrimes
near wasp
It's not a war crime if there's no treaty
arctic talon
but they also were scared to change the rules
steel ingot
i mean end times was a bad idea werent it
arctic talon
because thats what people liked
The End Times were a bad idea
but the entire setting
got outsold
by 1 fucking space marine mini
and also 1 fucking LOTR mini
so like
storm jungle
i mean end times was a bad idea werent it
it really wasnt
arctic talon
💀
arctic talon
The End Times was unfortunately GW putting down a rotting corpse
near wasp
People didn't like fantasy until it was gone
storm jungle
^
steel ingot
writing yourself in a hole is a funny way of disposing of the setting on purpose
vagrant fox
End Times were written a bit poorly in places but WHFB was dead
arctic talon
so they fucking killed it lol
storm jungle
writing yourself in a hole is a funny way of disposing of the setting on purpose
They didnt write themselves into a hole
the game sucked
lmao
vagrant fox
People didn't like fantasy until it was gone
I did ☝️ 🤓
storm jungle
literally every single WHF tabletop fan was shitting on it
near wasp
The only good part of fantasy was total war
steel ingot
i guess my perspective is warped i came into fantasy at the tail end of old times
during the start of AoS
storm jungle
yeah that explains it
arctic talon
this guy is from fucking 1995
steel ingot
like lord how old was i
arctic talon
THEY WERE SELLING HIM IN 2015
vagrant fox
I have chaos warriors from 1994, it's one year younger than I am
storm jungle
rocky gale
It's models were also so generic that anybody who did play WHFB didn't do it with GW minis
steel ingot
this guy is from fucking 1995
this is kinda peem though
steel ingot
oh yeah no wonder
arctic talon
you think 40k is expensive
nah
WHFB is like twice the cost of 40k
for an army lmao
when it was concurrent
steel ingot
i was just out of highschool when AoS started NO WONDER i fell for propaganda
vagrant fox
These fucking chuds
arctic talon
I love the old chaos warriors
near wasp
He's just a lil guy
arctic talon
they're my little chudlings
vagrant fox
I appreciate how far GW has come for modelling when I look at them
Yeah I love them but they are what they are
steel ingot
somtimes i look at my friend making a rogue trader model army and i long for that kinda commitment
like rogue trader era orkies and gobbos
great stuff
arctic talon
but yeah WHFB's 4 main factors for its death and decline were
Absurdly expensive to get into
Bad rules
Old sculpts
Actual competition in the Fantasy Rank and Flank industry
limpid granite
500 grot minis
steel ingot
its nice to learn the like truth about AoS lmao
arctic talon
all those factors combined basicially crippled the poor ting
rocky gale
And like why would you spend so much for the GW WHFB knights when at the same time you could just get generic knights from some other company for a fifth of the price