40k-lore-chat

[native spade]

Seems it isnt

[storm jungle]

the Warp literally existed since the time of creation

the chaos gods just grew to be its biggest landlords

[native spade]

Saved

[solid horizon]

warp is reality debug

[storm jungle]

sus meme

[rancid cove]

Thanks for the info

[storm jungle]

🫡

[midnight dragon]

Tyranid lives matter

[storm jungle]

yeah there it is

lol

[native spade]

I would like there to be an equivilent of the Fantasy Gods of Law/Order

In 40k

[storm jungle]

thats in AoS aka a better setting regarding pantheons

[native spade]

Then again, the timeline doesnt lend itselt to it

[storm jungle]

40k is very boring in that regard

[native spade]

AoS isnt really that good with its handling of gods tbh

[storm jungle]

have you read anything in AoS regarding this

[native spade]

Its just "Huge fuckass war happens, trillions perish, god takes the back step"

[storm jungle]

Not really

lol

Literally every single Chaos, Order and Destruction god takes their stakes in the realms

not sure where you made the "they take a step back" thing

[heady rivet]

GOOD NEWS GANG
My friend broke his vertebrae! He'll have free time to run CoC!

[copper island]

what's CoC

[heady rivet]

He is crippled for months.

[heady rivet]

Call of Cthulu

[copper island]

I see

i'm sorry to hear that

[native spade]

I mean, they dont really go over the wars that happen

[copper island]

or maybe that's good idrk

[native spade]

And some fuckass massive war always goes on

With massive casualties

[heady rivet]

Shits fucked

[native spade]

And nothing substantial happens

[storm jungle]

You can say this for literally every Warhammer setting, they still actively take part in the stuff that happens.

[copper island]

oh shit

😭

[native spade]

Except for the Necroquake

[storm jungle]

Again. Every warhammer setting.

lol

AoS gods also have avatars that usually take to the field too

[native spade]

I still find 40k to be more flushed out, rather than be mythical like AoS is

[copper island]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1232034695693467658/1375616331063492788/togif.gif

[native spade]

AoS' size scope feels off to me, idk

[storm jungle]

AoS is pretty fleshed out too, its just that anyone that makes any criticism of it has not read a single thing about it.

a very common running trope lol

40k is just "chaos gods lol idk"

AoS as well as WHF have always done a better job regarding deities than 40k

[native spade]

WHFB defo did it the best

[storm jungle]

AOS is the exact same

[heady rivet]

Yippee!

[storm jungle]

so there isnt really a difference

aside from just bias lol

[copper island]

https://tenor.com/view/polar-bear-dumb-splash-yes-yes-truth-nuke-gif-17650531138070646440

[native spade]

I said before that i do not enjoy AoS, but i am waiting for this new End Times 2. Thing they will pull off

[heady rivet]

That was fake

[storm jungle]

Again you saying you dont enjoy it kinda proves my point

[heady rivet]

It was a honeypot

[storm jungle]

there is also no end times

lol

[native spade]

I dont enjoy it, because i read it

I am not a Fantasy grognard

[storm jungle]

"read it" in what way

lol

[native spade]

Through the Codices and the Wiki

[storm jungle]

Yeah that explains it LMAO

[native spade]

The battletomes i mean

[storm jungle]

i had friends who read some 40k and instantly disliked the setting

so its not really a IP specific thing

[native spade]

The books arent that better IMO, the new Gotrek books tried go milk nostalgia HARD

[storm jungle]

They very much are good

[native spade]

Though, i must say

[storm jungle]

They also dont "milk" gotrek

he has like 5 books amidst thousands of others lol

[native spade]

I really liked the depiction of Nurgle in that one exerpt from a stormcast book

[copper island]

is warhammer age of sigmar NOT the same as warhammer fantasy

[storm jungle]

it is

[native spade]

Can a person not have their own opinion? I personally do not enjoy it.

[copper island]

because i was told otherwise i think

[storm jungle]

its a sequel setting

[copper island]

i see

[native spade]

No

[storm jungle]

Its not about having an "opinion", its about just being wrong about it

like saying "this setting doesnt do this well" when it very much does is lol

[native spade]

What is wrong with my opinions exactly? Other than conflicting with yours?

[storm jungle]

"yours" bruh

AoS mythos is like one of its most universally praised portions

[native spade]

Its set millions of years after WHFB

[storm jungle]

i know some friends who dont like the setting instantly get enamoured from reading codex passages regarding the gods in AoS

40k is way more bland in mythology in comparison

its literally nothing but chaos gods and thats it lmao

its objectively way more diverse

[rancid cove]

I don't think you're getting the point
You can say you don't like it but saying it's factually bad when it isn't is the problem.

[storm jungle]

^

this is it yes

I dont like AoS much either and im a 40k fangirl, but it very much still does a lot of things better than 40k, its one of the reasons why it has such a big fanbase

[heady rivet]

I dont follow AoS but my favorite thing is my friend was telling me how Sigmar was like "What if we take our cities and push them somewhere else" and then they just did it

[rancid cove]

I don't know why GW give 40k (which I think it's their biggest most well known faction?) such a bland approach on things

[storm jungle]

its because its the more famous setting

the more famous the more marketably bland you get

it draws in more customers

[native spade]

I critisized the size scope of the setting, like i said. I do not have a bias on it since i am not a Fantasy Grognard, but i prefer WHFB myself since its a lot more grimier than AoS is and is much more grounded

[storm jungle]

which isnt a bad thing becuause the only thing getting affected is uh

well loyalist space marines and guard

[rancid cove]

Ah, the wonders of capitalism.

[storm jungle]

aka lol lmao

[quiet orchid]

AoS?

[storm jungle]

Age of Sugmah

[rancid cove]

Age of Sigmar

Which is another Warhammer setting

[quiet orchid]

Wth is that

[rancid cove]

Which is more medieval to say

[quiet orchid]

No, Not more things to learn

[rancid cove]

Warhammer but not in space

[storm jungle]

AoS is extremely grimey and has about as many grounded locations, it literally has 1:1 stuff from Fantasy for WHF fans, idk why people think its some crazy League of Legends setting

[copper island]

Victor Saltzpyre is kojima-level writing

[rancid cove]

Don't worry I don't like AoS you dont need to learn about it

[native spade]

Guard exist to get shat on since 8th and to milk "Look, they are soooo coool despite being heckin' normal humans" aspect of the lore spouters

[quiet orchid]

Uff, ty baby

[heady rivet]

Not enough homoeroticism, despite the fandoms beliefs

[storm jungle]

Yeah and they still get a new bland aesthetic

[native spade]

Guard was kino back when shit mattered pre-primaris

[storm jungle]

thats my point

[native spade]

Mhm

I can get behind that

And space marine players will deadass tell us to just paing krieg yellow

[heady rivet]

Pre-Primaris

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[native spade]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-lotr-lord-of-the-tings-lord-elrond-3000years-gif-13229890

[raven stone]

Yea they had to find the last suitable acting superior officdr still alive to formally relieve him of his duty

[native spade]

Bitch, yo whole faction is the same dudes in diffrent power rangers schemes

Stfu

"But muh chapter specific units" 🤓

[raven stone]

Say what you like about Japanese Imperialism (and as Chinese myself I feel iffy yo say the least) but that is some damn dedication

[rancid cove]

Not space marine fans
GW told you this, actually

Just paint them yellow, bro

[storm jungle]

tbh some legit do

[native spade]

Actually, a lot of them did too

[fervent geode]

He had no idea the war ended lmao

He was stuck in the Philippine woods waiting for high ranking someone to get him

[rancid cove]

Yeah because GW also told you this

[raven stone]

It's both that and he refused to just pack it up when found.

[heady rivet]

Wrong. He had 10000000 hints, and even saw his own brother with his own eyes. He just told himself it wasnt over

[copper island]

"say what you will but it takes lots of dedication to r*pe and kill chinese civilians 28 years later!!"

[storm jungle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rambo-nothing

[heady rivet]

He saw his actual, living brother from like 100 feet away with his actual voice but convinced himself "Nah, American trick"

[fervent geode]

I mean he knew for real when the Japanese tourist found him and then the brother and all came

Wait that happened earlier?

[fervent geode]

Yeah he needed his officer to come get him for old geezer weird reasons

[heady rivet]

Brother first. "Tourist" later. But that tourist was more an adventurer that later died seeking a yeti. Crazy shit

[native spade]

Still waiting for the new Falcon tank kit btw

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[raven stone]

He was in the Phillipines Jungle so probably a different unit.

And let's be honest of that degree of dedication was done to a proper cause humanity would have advanced much further

[native spade]

That shit might be the timeless classic of Warhammer

[storm jungle]

sorry buddy best i can do is generic modern APCs

[native spade]

Literal 30 year old sculpt

[storm jungle]

and AFVS

for some fucking reason

[heady rivet]

It wasnt a joke

[fervent geode]

Yeah he was stupid, like I used to think was ignorant to ignore all the flyers but he was stupid af now

[storm jungle]

I KNOW

THATS WHAT MAKES IT WORSE

[heady rivet]

King shit tbh

[native spade]

The Falcon is the eldar tank

And i believe its from 1997

[storm jungle]

I KNOW

[midnight dragon]

Who's a good boy

[storm jungle]

also ngl

you could barely tell its from 1997

it legit looks amazing

[fervent geode]

The only other IJA guy who surrended after him was Lee Kuang Hui/Attun Palalin of the Takasago Volunteers in Indonesia

[storm jungle]

but i would love an update

[native spade]

Ikr?

My first army was Eldar

And my eyes popped when i saw '97 on the sprue

[heady rivet]

How're the grandkids?

[storm jungle]

tbh they got a lot of cool vehicles

[native spade]

My son is 3 and the second one's on the way

[storm jungle]

even if they are all falcons of varying sizes with bigger guns

[native spade]

They're good

[solid horizon]

unfortunately fire prisms never last long on the table

[native spade]

I was born in 2000, fyi

Got in around 2013

[native spade]

Eldar are literally the unloved middle child of the setting

[storm jungle]

tbh better that way

[native spade]

They were there since the start

[storm jungle]

the less attention they get the less cringe stories

im happy we still get shit like Voidscarred

[native spade]

Gav thorpe saw to it already

[storm jungle]

YEP

hate that prick

[native spade]

*Voidscarred

Tbh, as far as a Mike Brooks novel went, it was good

[storm jungle]

it was great

also m/m main couple was a surprise lol

screen going black just as they are about to fuck 😩

[copper island]

GAY PEOPLE 🔥

[native spade]

I dont really like his writing, but then again. He is the only guy who writes about stuff i like

[storm jungle]

Brooks is very pro-queer yea

[storm jungle]

LOL

[raven stone]

OK some bad news of a different sort

https://automaton-media.com/en/news/animation-studio-behind-umamusume-pretty-derby-and-sentenced-to-be-a-hero-anime-announces-insolvency-amidst-3-54-million-deficit/

[storm jungle]

Brooks writing is really great imo

[heady rivet]

You want to burn gay people? Interesting...reported!

[storm jungle]

he acknowledges 40k is inherently goofy

which is one of the reasons i like his writing

[native spade]

Thats where i dislike him lol. He, imo takes the grit out of the setting

Plus, the female Ogryn psyker just made me cringe

[storm jungle]

was that him?

[native spade]

Yeah

He wrote the Ogryn psyker

[storm jungle]

no thats Nate Crowley

LMAO

[rancid cove]

Tbh when you live in a world that is grim like 40k you get used to it and desensitized
So shit just becomes casual friday

[storm jungle]

^

its why i like it

[native spade]

I stand corrected

[storm jungle]

like the opening of the Alpha Legion novel has them look at a hydra tank

and be like

"Hehe hydra, thats like our thing."

"Lmao yeah"

feels more realistic that way to me lol

[rancid cove]

I like both ends of the spectrum, the pointing out the stupid shit and the grim serious ones
Can't say I'd want an entire book on it since most authors probably won't make it work very good but having these both views are great

[storm jungle]

yeah exactly, if i want a gritty dark novel ill go read an author that does that

40k books are suppose to be like an ice cream shop

[native spade]

I mean, i wont go over too much of his political stances but Sarkon Aggad made me double read the passage

Atleast make your meta commentary discreet bro

😭

[storm jungle]

Discreet?

in this age?

lol

[rancid cove]

Some people will take it too seriously in universe because all they know is of duty
But then you have the casual guardsman which for him is regular thursday having to deal with the universe they live in

[native spade]

Dont like the guy, btw

Sargon

[storm jungle]

I like his political stuff tbh

hes pro-queer and a really woke guy which is a welcome change

especially when most of BL writers are bald white guys who feel very backward

[native spade]

I dislike all irl politics seeping into fictional settings

[storm jungle]

I got bad news

💀

[copper island]

LMAO

😭

[storm jungle]

40k has always been a political setting

[native spade]

Go and solve your shit outside

[quiet orchid]

In 40k, a Child being exploded its a normal thursday

[storm jungle]

GW themselves have said 40k is satire

so

[rancid cove]

Child being eaten is a normal thursday

[storm jungle]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/1Xpzeld6/the-imperium-is-driven-by-hate-warhammer-is-not/

[copper island]

40k is the biggest satire of necropolitics and fascism 😭 why do u think chuds on white australia twitter like it so much

[rancid cove]

My brother in christ do you realize the entire setting was built to criticize irl politics?

[native spade]

It hasnt been that way since 2nd ed, not overtly atleast

[quiet orchid]

Literally

[rancid cove]

Like why is even a problem to bring irl politics into fictional media? It's where it can be explored the best

[copper island]

it's a colonial fantasy

[storm jungle]

As long as the Imperium exists 40k will always be satirical

[copper island]

that's the entire fucking POINT

[native spade]

I aint stupid enough to not know that the Empire is a satire of Space fasho-communism

[storm jungle]

communism?

whu-

[copper island]

just saying shit

[quiet orchid]

[crystal forum]

www.METRO2039.com
next metro game just announced

[quiet orchid]

Communism?

[copper island]

you've just been saying shit for the past hour

[rancid cove]

What the fuck do you mean IT POKES FUN IN EVERY CHANCE IT GETS
ROGUE TRADER THE GAME HAS AN ENTIRE MISSION DEDICATED TO HOW IMPERIUM POLITICS IS SHIT

[storm jungle]

Alright folks calm down lol

[native spade]

Rogue Trader was overt

2nd ed onwards is covert

Shit like Ghazghkull being Margy and stormboyz being SS is rogue trader era jank

[rancid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/cretoi-icssmoke-gif-18150152580473674997

[crystal forum]

guys the next metro game is coming

[solid horizon]

it always has been

even since 1st

[storm jungle]

👆

Always will be satire

[rancid cove]

Missed the point award

[storm jungle]

satire isnt just "comedy", its commentary as well

[solid horizon]

mega cracked out space cops marines are already satire on its own

[rancid cove]

People who think satire inherently means funny gives off red flags and I can't explain it

[native spade]

I havent missed the point, ik that the Empire is evil, and flawed. Like the rest of humanity

[heady rivet]

I like that you list baldness as a negative trait. You really are a Turk...

[wary fulcrum]

Humanity being commodified to the extent where the tax is literally people

[storm jungle]

Yeah

[solid horizon]

people these days cant differenciate dark comedy from satire

[storm jungle]

imagine if that happened IRL

right

[quiet orchid]

More like criticize

[copper island]

WE LOVE HUMAN NECROPOLITICS

[rancid cove]

Bald people mean evil
We know this because of the Horus Heresy

[native spade]

And before you tell me that You just hate Communism, yeah. I am sorry. I do. They have done nothing good in my country and have genocided both sides of my family

It is an evil ideology

And should be seen as such

[solid horizon]

dudes will watch emir kusturica movies and only see the funny

[copper island]

nobody mentioned anything about communism dawg

invisible boogeyman

[storm jungle]

Buddy

[native spade]

The Empire is a satire on everthing bad about humankind

[heady rivet]

Necro, you say?

[storm jungle]

"communist" countries are literally just fascist

lmao

[quiet orchid]

Bro the ones who talked abt communism was just u

[storm jungle]

its like america calling itself a democracy while literally being authoritarian

[native spade]

They are the two diffrent sides of the same Hegelian redardery

[copper island]

"no!! my KKKommunisms!!!! NOOO!! NOT IN MY SETTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[storm jungle]

No communism is just a naive system thats at the end of the day incompatible with governments and nations.

[rancid cove]

The red scare has done irreversible damage to society in levels I cannot describe, man

[storm jungle]

literally every single socialist/communist country through history has just been fascism

they just say they are "communists" for clout

[rancid cove]

The Tau caste approaches

[heady rivet]

Another 20 trillion ethnic minorities to Siberia

[native spade]

They literally genocided Crimean Tatars and the Turks of Bulgaria, so. Yes, it is evil. Because it concerns me

[rancid cove]

Biggest exampe: The nazi party started as a socialist party to attract union workers to support it

[copper island]

that's not what the setting is about tho

[native spade]

Marx is burning alongside Mussolini in Hell for all i care

[native spade]

The setting is about the sins of all humankind

[copper island]

they never were socialist in any faucet

[storm jungle]

Literally this lol

[copper island]

they had socialism in the name to attrack workers

[storm jungle]

"I know i said id be socialist. I LIED"

[rancid cove]

Yes, that's what I'm referencing

[copper island]

fascism in it's historical sense (in italy) had roots in the syndicalist movements of italy

[copper island]

you said they started as socialists

they didnt

[storm jungle]

its in name-only

they basically just wanted to appeal to the public

[rocky gale]

Saying "people shouldn't starve" is pretty much the same as force feeding people castor oil until they shit themselves to death tbh

[quiet orchid]

U read it wrong bro, she said exactly the same

[heady rivet]

They started off generally anti-capitalist but

Purged the Strasserists for being too commie
Just absorbed the rich into the party rather than absorb their companies since it would be easier for their war economy

[storm jungle]

^

tbh its literally any political party

lie until you make it

lmao

[copper island]

the part where these reactionaries break off from syndicalism is that the faucet of class-collaboration

as well as general ultra-chauvinism but that's another thing

[rancid cove]

Being a politician means you turned into a competitive liar

[native spade]

Because killing 50 million people to make pig iron in an attempt to jump-start an economy is sooo much better, right?

Lmfao, gtfo out here

[heady rivet]

Mao

https://tenor.com/view/mao-zedong-hello-chat-mao-gif-22461031

[solid horizon]

L Mao

(kill me please, it was too easy)

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-mao-goodbye-chat-gif-22718979

[copper island]

truke

[rocky gale]

Did Marx do that?

[native spade]

What do i do when i am a TVRK with a head full of lucious, thicc curls?

[heady rivet]

Hitler was against capitalism but then hit one of those "Okay we do a little now and we can dump it all later" like China did

[storm jungle]

^

China went from "communist" to just capitalist fascism

again, there has never been an actually communist nation

ever

[native spade]

Marx was a rabid racist for his day too, and it does not matter. Its like saying Mussolini was relatively innocent because it was Hitler who killed the most undesireables

[storm jungle]

"Marx was a rabid racist"

LITERALLY EVERYONE WAS BACK THEN

😭

[heady rivet]

He bit em when he saw em

[native spade]

He was noted as being too racist for his time

This is a fact btw

[storm jungle]

well yeah hes european

bro was competitive

🥀

[native spade]

Communism has killed untold millions.

It should be shunned as much as Fascism

[copper island]

he was never anti-capitalist, he was anti-"global banking" (anti-jew)

[storm jungle]

Again, not communism

its just fascism

[native spade]

Hegelian bullshit

Both of them

[storm jungle]

no russian or slavic nation thats "red" has ever been socialist or communist

its just authoritarian or fascist

[copper island]

unlike the great goats of PARIS

💪🏽

[storm jungle]

When you literally dont follow the edicts of your said ideology you cant really be called as such

now thanks to them the moment you say you are a socialist people think you are a mass murderer russian lol

Its like me calling myself democratic while advocating for genocide, this isnt how it works.

[native spade]

Do you think it is feasably possible to achieve pure communism without resorting go Fascistic methods?

[heady rivet]

France having to ask Germany for permission to kill the Paris Commune is genuinely more humiliating than Napoleon III getting captured

[storm jungle]

Yes. The problem is humans are flawed beings and communism simply doesnt work unless you're a literal small commune or a village community

its literally in the name

there will always be people that are selfish enough to not embrace a system that gives other people benefits

it goes beyond ideology

[copper island]

anyways the consolidation of private corporations and their means of producing commodities underneath his tight group of social elites was anything but anti-capitalistic

[storm jungle]

Also yeah that

[copper island]

ehhh that is very debatable

but i dont feel like talking about that rn

[storm jungle]

I just dont trust people tbh

we always fuck it up lol

[copper island]

that is on you then because that is not how people work

[native spade]

Yes, in that case. Since it goes against basic human nature. I, in no good consience can be in its favor

[copper island]

it's never been how people work

[storm jungle]

Idk man try being a warhammer fan

[copper island]

we are past the nietzschen humanist age of anxiety

[storm jungle]

[copper island]

trve...

[valid needle]

The Great Crusade was justified

[native spade]

Humans are discriminatory, selfish and community oriented

[storm jungle]

Yeah but again its always fascism/authoritarianism at fault, communism is basically a fantasy ideology that no one will ever manage.

[native spade]

Yep

[storm jungle]

so it has nothing to do with anything really

[raven stone]

Eh Warhammer fan groups is a poor representation of the whole human population due to the skewing existence of certain 40k lunatics

[copper island]

i dont even know where the mention of COMMUNISM even came from, you critique all the writers who happen to have any semblance of "identity" politics in their books and then u go onto ramble about how communist the imperium is???

[native spade]

Nah, as long as some illiterate idiots finally get the point that it is a dead ideology, that has never worked or will work. It will sadly exist

[copper island]

before all THIS you proclaimed how much you hate politics in media?

a whole lot of whistles

[native spade]

I gave it as an example of the worst evils of mankind

[rocky gale]

"it's human nature" and then the example is people shaped by a capitalist structure.

[native spade]

I dont mind identity politics, as long as they are well handled

[raven stone]

I mean that is my point. 40k sadly seems to attract the worse of the lot at the moment

[copper island]

APOCALYPTICAL TRUTH OF NUCLEAR PROPORTIONS

[native spade]

I love League lore, and Arcane season 1 is a phenomenal piece of social commentary on opression

[copper island]

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

saving this quote

[native spade]

The reason i like it is because it is handled tastefully

[hallow plover]

Some of those are gold

[native spade]

Hierarchy and Class is inherent to human nature

Deal with it

It isnt going away

Just like prejudice and tribalism

[copper island]

@storm jungle it is a big faucet about the human condition that the human is shaped by their social and material conditions and not by any sort of sense of nebulous rights or wrongs

this is what i was talking about...

[native spade]

Some people get shafted, some people will be born into privilige

[rocky gale]

Noo don't put me on the cringe board

[raven stone]

And on a lighter note I am not sure why someone decided to complain about the treatment of stray cats amongst all the other crap...

[storm jungle]

I guess.

[hallow plover]

the black templar pfp

[storm jungle]

EVERY TIME

[valid needle]

Just so we’re clear ugh this isn’t me it’s other Corswain evil Corswain

[storm jungle]

ITS A BLACK TEMPLAR PFP

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[hallow plover]

I feel bad for normal people who are black templar fans

[storm jungle]

same

[valid needle]

Thank you

[copper island]

wow... it turns out the fictional ultramasculine supersoldiers based off the premise of the puritanical cannibalistic footsoldiers of europe's great holy war against the islamic civilizations DO infact breed some of the worst excesses of people

[storm jungle]

i know most sane BT fans are like "YOU ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH ME"

[native spade]

I like them because they are the only marine chapter with a SOVL and unique models

Their lore is fine

[valid needle]

I’ve argued with a few

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[copper island]

MANY. SUCH. CASES, FOLKS!

[native spade]

The rest are just recolored ultramarines

[rocky gale]

"it's innate to human nature" and then they list things that I don't have and nobody I know cares about.

[native spade]

With 1-2 token units

[storm jungle]

I made this entire board for people who say "people with space marine pfps arent bad"

okay pal

[native spade]

I am married with a son and second child on the way

I will obviously care more about my family, then my people before others

[copper island]

wow take my updoot

[raven stone]

I mean TBF we have some sane ones right here lol

[copper island]

take my upvote!

[storm jungle]

how many amidst all the bad ones lol

[valid needle]

Watch it buddy I may be a space marine pfp user, a larper, BT fan, DA fan, Nightlord fan, a piece of shit, Konrad Curze sympathiser. But I am not a piece of shit.

[raven stone]

Still not "all", but that board can be for "majority" 😅

Sry being pedantic

[copper island]

you DON'T want to mess with us warhammer fans... we have no idea what even is going on in our own setting

[native spade]

Nah, its a thinly veiled attempt to call me a failiure

[raven stone]

I thank GW's Primaris shenanigans for finally pushing me off Marines before the insane crowd came along

[native spade]

I have a cushy job and can put money aside in a fucked up economy

[copper island]

i don't really see how any of this relates to the fact that your life is somehow affected by a writer putting a gay couple in their book

el oh el

[native spade]

Because i know that relying on a dead ideology coming back to amount me to shit is stupid, and put in the effort to be something in life because i know that its fucked up

[native spade]

I dislike Brooks because his meta commentary is overt, and his general writing is boring

[storm jungle]

its really not overt

[native spade]

Voidscarred was a good book

[storm jungle]

like im sorry but theres no "subtleness" left in the world

people need to be beaten over the head

[native spade]

The AL ones seem good

The lion book is just shit

[native spade]

It was a slog to read

[copper island]

yeah because you probably wouldn't get it if it WASNT nailed into your FUCKING BRAIN

[storm jungle]

to be fair

see the meme above

even when you do that people dont get it

lol

"MAN SUPER-EARTH WOULD BE GREAT TO LIVE IN"

literally nazi germany

[valid needle]

Alright I think you are out of bad takes allowance for today buddy

[storm jungle]

I will NEVER understand why they hate that book

[native spade]

Oh no, its almost as if i wasnt critiquing the fact that people are too sense satire and irony anymore beforehand

[storm jungle]

it was one of the most fun DA books ive read

[native spade]

What will i do if i am called stupid?

[storm jungle]

explosions idk

its what i do

https://klipy.com/gifs/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-funny

[native spade]

Scenes drag on for too long

[rocky gale]

Anyways

[native spade]

Too, toooo long

Structurally, it is a bore

[heady rivet]

Walked past a guy with bleached blonde hair and he saw my nails were painted and we just gave each other a knowing look like that dog

[valid needle]

I’m sorry it’s not all bolter porn and has meaningful reconciliation and change in it.

[storm jungle]

Well yeah its a book

LOL

get em Corswain

rare SM book i actually like, I WILL NOT have this

🗣️

[copper island]

what even is bolter porn

is it just constant action scenes

[valid needle]

Basically

[native spade]

Wasnt handled well, dun care. My opinion as someone who has read a lot of both Bolter Porn and narrative focuses books

[heady rivet]

Whenever you get Spess Mehreens kicking ass and being cool to an excessive degree to drive home how cool and epic it all is

[storm jungle]

^

tho it applies universally as well

but is generally stemmed from marine books

[native spade]

A lot of people also share the same sentiment about the book dragging on, while some parts could have been consolidated

The plot is good

The execution is the problem

[valid needle]

The book is about The Lion of all people seeing what his actions and self has caused and how he lost his home world to things he did or didn’t do and then exerting himself to reconcile with his sons and change.

[storm jungle]

Yeah its the most indepth look we get into him post-30k

its a very nice read, also actually explores the concepts like the Fallen in a way that doesnt put me to sleep lol

"MUAHAHA IM EVIL"

[crystal forum]

isnt it also the only book with him post 30k

[native spade]

My brother, i am NOT critisizing that part

[storm jungle]

yeah

[valid needle]

Well no

[heady rivet]

The Lion being an insufferable asshole all of 30k is the setup to this payoff and it actually works

[valid needle]

He’s in arks of omen which is a campaign book but I would still count it

[native spade]

I am saying that Brooks has pacing issues

Just like how most Abnett books are the same book

With diffrent characters

[valid needle]

Arks of omen is placed after son of the Forrest and sees his full reunion with the dark angels and not just the fallen

[copper island]

abnett hate will not be tolerated

that man is the frank herbert of 40k

[native spade]

No doubt about that

[rocky gale]

Just got alcohol in my eye, stings like hell

[native spade]

But you read one book from him, and you basically read them all

[heady rivet]

Amputate everything above the neck

[native spade]

He uses the same structre in most books of his

Eisenhorn is still GOATed

[rocky gale]

Unfortunately I don't have Adobe

[valid needle]

Yeah that’s signatures that writers do

[storm jungle]

[rocky gale]

Didn't pay the subscription

[heady rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1490894619570077803/mtxh9m5.gif

[valid needle]

Chris wraight is goated and does the same

[crystal forum]

some call it formulaic writing

[copper island]

https://tenor.com/view/franco-gif-26166992

[native spade]

Nah, Abnett really just changes characters and tweaks the narrative a bit

His books feel all samey

Graham McNeill doesnt suffer from this

Neither does Sandy Wright

I am allowed to critique a writer on his writing style, pacing and execution of the topic

[storm jungle]

Abnett is absolutely an overrated author imo but hes still the goat

his godfather status is kinda what annoys me as people just entirely ignore his actual faults as an author even tho hes legit legendary

[native spade]

He is an amazing narrative designer

But he is mid, at best when it comes to novel writing

Gav Thrope gets a lot of shit (From me included), but he is in the same boat, just more extreme

He is a good lore-writer, but a shit book writer

The Eldar books really sell this

The main stories and character interactions are shit, but the worldbuilding is immaculate

[solid horizon]

one may even say

craftworldbuilding

[native spade]

OnG

[native spade]

Honestly, i like his Eldar lore. Not his books

He really flushed them out from being "Space elves who methfucked slaanesh"

[fervent geode]

He’s a worldbuilder first and foremost and gets lost in it sometimes

[native spade]

Mhm

[solid horizon]

only warhammer books I've ever read I think were ultramarine and ravenwing

and the lord knows that ways way too long ago for me to remember any element

[valid needle]

Ravenwing PEAK

[solid horizon]

and I was really young so reading such a difficult brick was tough

[native spade]

+, he gave us WHFB dwarves

I cant hate him for that alone

[solid horizon]

only thing I can remember is marneus calgar drinking wine waaay too often in ultramarine

[native spade]

Let the man have one vice

Being papa smurf aint easy

[solid horizon]

for the rest of my life I would joke about him and parody him as a drunkard with my brother

[native spade]

Tbh, if i had to manage the Ultramarines, i'd be a drunkard too

"Daddy? Is this action codex compliant?"

[solid horizon]

we have the metal calgar mini, i'm begging him to paint calgar with a pinkish/red nose tip

[native spade]

The sitting one?

[solid horizon]

nah

raised fist one

I'd love to have the s(h)itting one

[native spade]

Me on the pimp closet

[rancid cove]

Why do I gotta share a hobby with ppl like this, dawg

[solid horizon]

this one

lol

[native spade]

Great minds think alike

Yeah

Mold a bottle for him with greenstuff

Has to have XXX written on it

[solid horizon]

ours is painted as a blangels btw lmao

it used to be our uncle's minis, and their marines were painted as blangels and chaos marines as word bearers

most of the paint is gone from calgar except his on his gloves

[crystal forum]

just noticed while rewatching season 3 of invincible that sinclair is working on turning dead marks into those zombie robots

thats so fucked

[native spade]

Turn him into a Crimson fist

I need to get this mini

[solid horizon]

who doesnt to be honest

[native spade]

I just need it

[crystal forum]

old space marine models were such trash man

[native spade]

"Brother Paperholderius, the power-bidet, please"

[crystal forum]

why are their heads so huge

[solid horizon]

scale was different and casts didn't have the technology we have today

heads are normal sized

[native spade]

Hand sculpts + heroic scale

[solid horizon]

the rest of the body was condensed

[crystal forum]

the robed space marine is kinda peak tho

robe over your power armour

[native spade]

Because the face is where your attention lands first

[solid horizon]

yeah

ngl I like these proportions

[native spade]

And in heroic scaling, the individuality is prioritized

[solid horizon]

I think they're neat and cute

[native spade]

Unlike normal scaling of today

[solid horizon]

commanders used to have smaller bases

[native spade]

Where we see units of 'goons'

[solid horizon]

instead of megalarge bases

[native spade]

And tactical rocks™

[solid horizon]

as I mentionned twice before, I am getting metal abaddon for gameplay and budget purposes

[rose thorn]

wait- can yarrick give orders to knights?

[native spade]

Yeah

[solid horizon]

and I have to modify him to fit size standard

[native spade]

Welcome to 11th

Which, i will be skipping

[solid horizon]

meaning I must switch from 32mm to 60mm

[native spade]

Shooting is dead

I play guard and fucking Iron Warriors who are shooty

[rose thorn]

OMFG they literally nerfed melee too calm down

[solid horizon]

I will have to place him on a mound of corpses because new abby is just that tall

[native spade]

Nah, i aint buying it

Necromunda awaits me

[solid horizon]

dont talk to me or my son ever again

[rose thorn]

I will be playing 11th I am very happy with all the changes

[native spade]

More power to you

And enjoy your time

[wary fulcrum]

Necromunda is best Munda

[solid horizon]

11th is massive knight buff, and guess why ? to make you buy the newer models

[native spade]

Trvke

[rose thorn]

[heady rivet]

8 minutes until this clas starts and I am the only one here please god dont let this be me and the professor alone

[solid horizon]

GW business strategy has never been less stealthy than in 11th ed

[native spade]

I have a rageboner against Killteam ever since they said that they will squat old killteams

[rose thorn]

What are you on about ???

[native spade]

Yes, i bought the Corsairs

And yes, they are gone now

I didnt even play them, once

Paid 40 bucks for a Footseer and Autarch award

[solid horizon]

towering keyword gained a buff, which is what all knights excluding their battleline have

knights were already extremely powerful before

[rose thorn]

You… know multiple armies have towering

[crystal forum]

genuinely who can defend the old model

[rose thorn]

They were a tilt army

[native spade]

People who didnt get to the hobby yesterday

[solid horizon]

knights are the most common ones you see on a table

[native spade]

Old models were goofy

The game was more goofy overall

[solid horizon]

people who can't spend 80 bucks on a single guy maybe ?

[solid horizon]

fabius bile rules

[crystal forum]

as if it wasn't already overpriced back then

[solid horizon]

I mean rules, not that he rules

[native spade]

Its like saying why old games look bad compared to todays GPU destroyers

[solid horizon]

no, metal abaddon was around 8 pounds

[heady rivet]

One other person showed up we might be so back

[crystal forum]

also nostalgia is not a valid reason to defend anything

[native spade]

That was the standart back then

[native spade]

.

[solid horizon]

marneus calgar literally used to be 7 bucks

[native spade]

We dont defend how whack it looks

We love it because it is whack

And retro

[solid horizon]

I grew up with whack models

and their goofy aesthetic

[native spade]

Same here, i had to suffer with old Eldar guardians

And everything

Never once did i complain

[wary fulcrum]

The art for him has like, 60 skulls on it

[native spade]

Including the goofy ahh aspects

[solid horizon]

it's a valid reason to defend your preferences because in the end you cannot personally avoid it

it's like education

[heady rivet]

God this class is always so empty

[solid horizon]

I used to play chaos back in 4th ed, chaos really was goofy

I came back to chaos this year lol

really a leap in time

[native spade]

These fuckers have SOVL

[rose thorn]

I genuinely have no clue what people are upset about all of the changes in 40K are good except the terrain objectives lol

[solid horizon]

angry eldar helmets are neat

[solid horizon]

idk tbh

[rose thorn]

Oooo that’s neat

[crystal forum]

if you preferences are based on what you enjoyed as a younger person instead of trying to view it objectively then that's just meaningless bias to me. sure you might like the goofiness but if somebody new to the hobby cannot understand your viewpoint at all then who's really right here

[solid horizon]

I dont mind change, it makes the game evolve and gives you different situations and ways to think strategically

[rose thorn]

Jay W?

[solid horizon]

dont get me wrong I dont really care about what people think of my preferences

I think I am free to say I enjoy these goofy lads

[raven stone]

Old Man rules

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/sccdyetm/commissar-yarrick-rules-lead-your-guardsmen-to-victory-on-armageddon/

[rose thorn]

He can give commands to knights it’s VERY funny

[solid horizon]

yeah no im wiping yarrick turn one

[solid horizon]

even if it takes a single doomsday ark shot

[native spade]

Had 3 squads of these guys too

[solid horizon]

my ynnari main friend has an eldar army that's made of practically all eldar generations (excluding space crusade)

[native spade]

With the Dunmer ass heads

[solid horizon]

some of the metal models still stand really well

[native spade]

Eldar Vehicles are timeless

The Falcon is from 97'

IT İS OLDER THAN ME

[solid horizon]

metal khaine to crush your feet

[raven stone]

Fucking hell if he is designed to be an allied units multiplier, would actually pay to ally in Knights and Agents alike

[crystal forum]

guard is really leaning into commissars next edition

[native spade]

They gotta sell the pimp bus somehow

[solid horizon]

one morbillion to cadia

[native spade]

And the lady that came along with it

[crystal forum]

hey i think it's just a better looking taurox anyways

[solid horizon]

more and more comissars to buff a baneblade

waiter, waiter more please

[native spade]

Mark my words, rhe taurox is gonna be Scions only

[solid horizon]

I cannot wait to lose turn 1

[native spade]

And the scions are getting shelved in 12th

[crystal forum]

i wouldn't be surprised if it gets axed completely

[native spade]

Nah

[crystal forum]

even scions are barely given any attention

[rose thorn]

It’s probably a bug if they don’t fix it imagine giving commands to a pile of imperial navy

[native spade]

People like the Scions

But the problem with the Taurox kit is that you cant run 33% of the kit if you run it with Guard

[crystal forum]

at least they got the aquilons

[queen laurel]

Maggie when gsc doesn't get another good thing again

[native spade]

The 3rd sprue is the Taurox Prime upgrade sprue

[rose thorn]

I SENT IT THATS ALL

[native spade]

Thats why they are sold separately on GWs shop

[rose thorn]

I have zero opinion on this model

[crystal forum]

i havent seen a taurox in ages irl

[native spade]

Non-prime taurox is gonna get axed fosho

[queen laurel]

no I'm making a joke that compares your reaction to this model's face

[native spade]

They will buff the Scions and the Prime to sell more

Then axe them come 12th

[rose thorn]

Oh lmao

[queen laurel]

every time GSC doesn't get anything good

[native spade]

Like they always do to old models

[crystal forum]

they might get refreshed, who knows

[native spade]

I hope so

[rose thorn]

We literally have a kit with zero rules I am allowed to complain lmao

[native spade]

Because as it stands

[solid horizon]

they are rare models

[native spade]

Kasrkin are just better

And i am sick of the Cadiajank

[crystal forum]

thats the weird part considering how few transport options guard has

[solid horizon]

if you have one, people are going to ask you if it's recast lmao

[native spade]

We used to have more

[raven stone]

GS Cults stealing Kasrkin is also full broken lol

[native spade]

BEFORE GW AXED 50% OF THE RANGE

[raven stone]

The one unit that can self Order

[nocturne crest]

wHAT?

[crystal forum]

the FW ones?

[solid horizon]

GW should give IW access to basilisks and chimeras back

[native spade]

AND MADE THE OTHER 25% UNUSEABLE

[native spade]

Yes

And the flyers

[crystal forum]

also isnt it funny that the new transport literally has the same name as an axed one lol

[storm jungle]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/o4fnl43s/new40k-ork-weirdboy-revealed/

[native spade]

Dont

Just dont

[storm jungle]

Ork recieving backshots?

[native spade]

It hurts already

[raven stone]

Nothing stops GS Cults from stealing Kasrkin, and their ability to self Order is retained because it is deemed a unit ability, not keyword ability.

[solid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/fartsoundeffect-gif-24726595

[heady rivet]

"Who gettin the best head"

[crystal forum]

they killed the bren carrier and replaced it with a generic halftrack lol

[vagrant fox]

halftracks cooler its fine

[crystal forum]

both are cool

[raven stone]

So yes you can have Xenos brainwashed Spec Ops Kasrkin, just like Hollywood movies

[nocturne crest]

So are Brood Brothers Kasrkin a thing?

[native spade]

Even though i hate Krief

[solid horizon]

getting those gork & mork waaagshots

[rancid cove]

Don't ever buy no weed from the gastation

[native spade]

Their unique stuff getting axed was bad

[rose thorn]

i cant wait for a greyknight refresh

[crystal forum]

at least a lot of it came back as solar auxilia

[rose thorn]

brood brothers can taek karskin who lets us give commands

[native spade]

Yeah, because god forbid you play a model in two games

[rose thorn]

so they are basically requried lol

[raven stone]

Rules wise, nothing stops you.

Lorewise, never mentioned, but still possible because unlike Tempestus, Kasrkin are not necessarily genetically checked and are also still normal humans susceptible to be Kissed.

[native spade]

Chaos Daemons will get axed soon too

[nocturne crest]

What about Krieg?

[native spade]

Even though they are beloved

[raven stone]

Also yes

[rose thorn]

we can taek krieg but they are generally worse than cadians for us

[native spade]

Yeah

[raven stone]

Thematically though the irony is far more delicious

[native spade]

GSC dont really hold objectives

[crystal forum]

ill never really understand why GW decided to create the dorn instead of refreshing the macharius

[native spade]

The sticky is delicious for you

[solid horizon]

legend daemon engines for some reason

[native spade]

Because people already had machariuses

[rose thorn]

i hate this jaillock gsc meta ,,,,,,

[native spade]

You cant re-sell old kits to them

[crystal forum]

did they? i thought it was a pretty niche model

[raven stone]

Because GW overlords decided 30k range and 40k range must have 0 overlaps to force people to buy more plastic crack

[rose thorn]

its thematically disappointing for GSC

[native spade]

It was a very popular FW model

One of the best selling ones actually

And it was a decent tank

Still

[crystal forum]

i really like the vraks era tanks

[raven stone]

Well we will see what the new datasheets bring for 11th

[native spade]

Who would buy a new Macharius if they already had a few?

I wouldnt

And i dont have one, fyi

[crystal forum]

HH plastic refreshes seem to be pretty popular

[native spade]

Same with Malcadors

[rose thorn]

i am very excited

[crystal forum]

malcador defender still doesnt have a plastic version smh

[native spade]

And thats why GW locked them into HH only after selling them to Guard players

[crystal forum]

literally the coolest variant

[native spade]

So you would go and build a Solar Auxillia force

[raven stone]

As am I, even for a faction as off the grid as Imperial Agents

[native spade]

GW is scummy to its core

[crystal forum]

or militia lol

[native spade]

They love sellibg models and pulling the rug under you

Literally what happened to me with Killteam

Like i said, i got Corsairs

And they are squatted now

[raven stone]

Custodes is the best value of the lot

Always meta, one of the very few cross era collection

[native spade]

I didnt know about old kill teams not getting new fules

[crystal forum]

they get rotated every few years now yeah

[native spade]

The reason is that if they cant sell HH/40K custards, the custards would be cucked in any one of the games

Their armor is 30k only

[rose thorn]

....?

[native spade]

And was mostly forge world

[rose thorn]

they.. arent squatted

[native spade]

They will be legends'd come the next edish

[rose thorn]

the KT?

[native spade]

I bought them last november

[native spade]

They will get rotated out since they are a KT 2nd box

The Killteams i wanted to get were Legionnaries and them

[rose thorn]

the declassified killteams?

[native spade]

Then they announced the whole 'classified' shit

[rose thorn]

they will still be legal to play-

[native spade]

Yeah

[rancid cove]

Tabletop cucks losing once again

Tsk tsk tsk

[rose thorn]

you just wont be able to buy their stuff

[rose thorn]

its very stupid

[solid horizon]

obliterate yourself

[native spade]

Still, there is no excuse to literally put a 4 year timer on something you will realistically play 20 times with, at most

And spend around 2 dozen hours making

[native spade]

Kindly rush chair and rope build

❤️

Thats what i use

[solid horizon]

I was talking to lynxiee

[rose thorn]

yeah KT is really dumb rn, but its new kits for armeis that already got stuff thats kinda the only thing it does now

[native spade]

I know

[rose thorn]

excpet when it deosnt

[solid horizon]

but yeah imma do that

[native spade]

I am just giving you ammo

[rose thorn]

[native spade]

[solid horizon]

im preparing the setup

[native spade]

Literally what i said above

Kt isnt profitable

[rancid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-gif-10764807960154757547

[rose thorn]

unlike UNDERWORLDS!!!111

[native spade]

They sell you killteams and hope you build armies

[rose thorn]

[solid horizon]

lynxiee trying so hard to be a dilara clone

[rose thorn]

BUY UNDERWORLDS BUY UNDERWORLDS

[native spade]

KT sells

[rancid cove]

How lmfao

[storm jungle]

This guy is a born hater

you should blow him up

[crystal forum]

they just wanted to find a way to keep adding KT's without overbloating the roster tbh

[native spade]

But why stop at selling 1 kit, when you can squat their models from getting supported and then forcing them to buy new Killteams

[rose thorn]

IF UNDERWORLDS INST PROFITABEL THEY KEEP MAKING THEM BABYYY THEY MADE THEM FOR LONGER THAN KT KITS EXISTED BABYYY

[solid horizon]

yes please

[nocturne crest]

What about GSC Catachan?

[native spade]

So they can force you to buy new boxes

[rancid cove]

Calling big yahu right now

[rose thorn]

we have better options

[heady rivet]

Palpatine trying to get Luke to fall to hatred

[solid horizon]

release the flames of hell on me , now

[storm jungle]

Terra Aviv Impressed...

[rose thorn]

brood brothers you wanna bring consistant cheap shooting or big tanks

[native spade]

Kill Team is literally a trap when it comes to being marketed as a 'cheap way to play Warhammer'

They force you to buy either new kits, or diffrent kits for each season

[crystal forum]

you still have like 4 years before a killteam even gets declassified

[native spade]

It is profitable, but they want to squeeze the most out of each player

[rose thorn]

ANOTHER UNDERWORLDS MOG

[nocturne crest]

Is there any limits to the big tanks?

[rose thorn]

their points price

lmao

[native spade]

It is unprofitable in the sense that if one player can play with 1 box, and 1 box alone. They would not have any incentive to buy new or diffrent boxes

They have to force your hand somehow

[nocturne crest]

Wait, so could gsc take a deathstrike?

[rose thorn]

yes

[native spade]

That is why GigachadMunda reins supreme

[solid horizon]

arent most vehicles capped to 3 copies

[rose thorn]

unironically GSC use baneblades better than guard

[crystal forum]

is that really a high bar

[fervent geode]

You could just buy a Kill Team box and play the scenarios in the dossier forever

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[native spade]

"You wanna have your own gang of Beastmen, with no official models? Go ahead fam"

[zenith prairie]

Hard agree

[native spade]

Cuck-Team and Flopworlds could never

[nocturne crest]

What about Knights? I can remember someone doing a video on how you could give a GSC cult a knight through an inquisitor?

[rose thorn]

that bug has been patched

like

4 times

[crystal forum]

my biggest disappointment was coming face to face with a baneblade in SM2 and realizing how tiny it is

smh

[fervent geode]

Smh Kill Team had NPO scenarios which are good for me because I have no friends smh

[rancid cove]

Do not take space marine 2 size scale for canon lmfao

Do not take ANYTHING from sm2 as canon

[solid horizon]

Sm2 is a space marine power fantasy

[rancid cove]

Only the story matters there

[crystal forum]

nah the scales are accurate

[native spade]

SM2 is a mid game that got too much hype over the culture war

[fervent geode]

The Space Marines are weaker than they should be but somehow scaled weird as hell imo

[crystal forum]

it's just hard to tell with models

[rancid cove]

It really isn't lmao

[fervent geode]

Yeah tbh it’s not fun

[solid horizon]

baneblades are huge on tabletop

you can barely move around

[fervent geode]

It gets repetitive very fast

[nocturne crest]

How so?

[rose thorn]

i shoudl get a deadly disease and get a make a wish to have GW release a new GSC wave

[fervent geode]

And grindy

[rancid cove]

It's fun with friends or if you're autistic as I am because I play that shit 6 hours a day

[rose thorn]

we have more bodies ot protect it and we can finish off units alot easier that it doenst kill

[native spade]

I was sold on the whole game when it launched

dropped it 2 weeks after

The campaign is good

[fervent geode]

Eh it was fun with friends for like a month

[native spade]

the gameplay is shit

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

i have my baneblade right next to a space marine and they're pretty close to how it is in game

[rancid cove]

Almost 700 hours currently

[fervent geode]

Feels clunky and heavy

Too heavy imo

[native spade]

Yeah

I feel like i am playing a terminator

not a normal battle brother

[solid horizon]

you should kill yourself for having a baneblade ngl

[fervent geode]

Space Marines are very comfortable in their armour why are we playing Slowtus

[crystal forum]

it's a named character space marine guys

[nocturne crest]

Armageddon Brood Brothers.

[native spade]

Someone got tabled

[crystal forum]

that makes him stronger than a primarch

[native spade]

[solid horizon]

alas it is true

[celest dome]

SM2 is "basic" enough that they don't really need to do much.
It's a halo game in 40k.

It doesn't really try anything special

[fervent geode]

Why is bruz moving as fast as a Cataphractii if he’s so OP

[crystal forum]

it's printed i'm not insane enough to pay that price for a real one

[native spade]

Reminds me of this one time a World Eater player just... footslogged, against my beehnbleeade

Yeah my man

[nocturne crest]

So what do you think GW will give the Steel legion to make them stand out against the krieg and cadians.

[native spade]

charge the massive fuck all tank

WHAT CAN GO WRONG?

[rose thorn]

the new tanks unironically look REALLY GOOD for gsc

[native spade]

The nails surely were biting him allright

[rose thorn]

dismount shooting bonus

[solid horizon]

my brother always buffs his baneblade into oblivion and has a belt of guards moving aound it to avoid melee

[fervent geode]

Taking them for Cults and Militia too

[solid horizon]

best way out is to ignore the baneblade

[native spade]

Oh no... its almost like...

[crystal forum]

the only correct way to use a baneblade

[native spade]

He screens the big unit

[rose thorn]

oh?

[solid horizon]

yeah well next time he's gonna fight my 3 defilers

[rose thorn]

you can bring them in HH?

[native spade]

Cadians are cheap, Baneblades arent

[fervent geode]

It’s totally an Armoured rig

[crystal forum]

baneblades are in HH yeah

[native spade]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-gif-15153397299583870935

[rose thorn]

and neophyte hybrids are cheaper!

[crystal forum]

militia and solar aux have baneblades

[solid horizon]

I am trying to establish a tactic to attack the baneblade in melee

[crystal forum]

dont ask me how militia have baneblades

[rose thorn]

whoops

[solid horizon]

but someone has to die

[fervent geode]

Big Industry

[native spade]

TRVE GVARD players knew that Whiteshields were the best screens

5 points per model btw

[rose thorn]

arent whiteshields literally child soliders

[native spade]

BS5+