Noise Marines should become some sort of Sorcerer/Psyker with their own custom "lore"/discipline
#40k-lore-chat
celest dome
brave owl
So in Dow2, and specifically retribution your units are mostly characters with personalities and special abilities
So basically you're controlling a small squad of four with a few reinforcements you can summon which can be of varying usefulness
Its still a strategy game, but its like focused on smaller armies
brave owl
whereas dawn of war1 you'd have a lot more faceless units
valid needle
Its still a strategy game, but its like focused on smaller armies
I understand
vagrant fox
Yeah there's no reason to read Goto books, they barely have anything to do with the games either
daring creek
Nice
brave owl
I haven't played it, but I hear dow3 further increases that feel so that it feels like a MOBA
urban spire
chatroom i feel incredible
daring creek
Why tf is my auto word profiling me
urban spire
SIX YEARS this shit's been eating at me, now i've got my prescription coming in the mail in 2 weeks
daring creek
Of E?
urban spire
ye
celest dome
I haven't played it, but I hear dow3 further increases that feel so that it feel...
They did that in that AoS game, Realm of Ruin
daring creek
Congratulations
urban spire
I LIVED
celest dome
God i wish for a good AoS video game
urban spire
more like Age of eStrogen
vagrant fox
Could go for some stroganoff
civic gale
Why did alpharius become traitor? Was he a case of "fuck the emperor" or?
urban spire
because he was stupid
daring creek
they strogan me off till i beef
Lmfao
urban spire
this is why they shouldn't have done the 30k novels
brave owl
is he a traitor, is he a secret loyalist?
urban spire
before? idk mystery of the ancient past
now? it is demonstrably the case that everyone involved in the horus heresy was a drooling idiot
vagrant fox
this is why they shouldn't have done the 30k novels
true + correct + the rest of it
celest dome
Alpharius is dead.
He wasn't Chaos, he wasn't loyalist.
Omegon is most likely alive.
Switch the twins around as suited
daring creek
The fear I have about touching a marine book is it being exactly what I expect it to be
vagrant fox
The fear I have about touching a marine book is it being exactly what I expect i...
Some of them aren't so bad
Just don't read stuff like Wrath of The Lost
daring creek
Is helreach good
vagrant fox
Yea
urban spire
no
vagrant fox
Imo anyways, not one of my favourite books but I liked it
urban spire
i haven't read it
daring creek
i haven't read it
its bad
brave owl
why did they trust horus heresy
daring creek
civic gale
So wait
brave owl
misinformation? Well maybe you need better aim
civic gale
Alpharius is dead? Or is it unconfirmed?
brave owl
Alpharius is dead? Or is it unconfirmed?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
civic gale
And is omegon real?
brave owl
everyone is alpharius
im alpharius
you're alpharius
Im also omeggon
and I might not be either
civic gale
Dully noted
vagrant fox
Alpharius confirmed dead
Word of god confirmed
Omegons supposed to be unless they pull a prank
civic gale
Shit tho, having a chapter that is of unknown descendent but has everything to make the point to alpharius sounds awesome due to cloaking and mischief
daring creek
Alpharius found dead in detriot
nocturne crest
I think we might be in the cyberpunk timeline.
daring creek
What makes you think so
brave owl
he was trying to buy newports and they mugged his ass
daring creek
Are furries real yet
brave owl
I want to be in the Shadowrun timeline
vagrant fox
Alpharius tried to pull 'it's just a prank bro' on Dorn and had his head bananasplitted
brave owl
gimme fantasy-scifi
fervent geode
Alpharius is dead? Or is it unconfirmed?
Yeah he died
vagrant fox
We're in the cyberpunk future except it's really lame
civic gale
Yeah he died
How do you know?
fervent geode
And is omegon real?
Yeah and supposedly dead
civic gale
What's the sauce?
daring creek
We're in the cyberpunk future except it's really lame
Make furry waifus real pls
celest dome
I think we might be in the cyberpunk timeline.
I wish, we're closer to a Terminator timeline
daring creek
Wdym
vagrant fox
Alph was killed in one of the Siege books and it was confirmed by whoever it was
Some gw hotshot
civic gale
Fair enough, moving on then
fervent geode
Alph was killed in one of the Siege books and it was confirmed by whoever it was
Killed by Big Man Dorn, confirmed by Omegon in Head of the Hydra too
celest dome
isn't it Alpha that die in that book ?
With Omegon feeling its dead ?
fervent geode
Good riddance
fervent geode
isn't it Alpha that die in that book ?
With Omegon feeling its dead ?
Yeah
daring creek
John french? Never reading
nocturne crest
Apparently, Iran can't find their sea mines.
vagrant fox
Make furry waifus real pls
I'm busy + you haven't paid me
fervent geode
John french? Never reading
He’s aight
daring creek
Sad and funny
fervent geode
I can forgive him being French because he wrote Alpharius dying like an idiot
daring creek
May have done a fucky wucky
Not only have we closed the strait
But
Made any traversal across it dangerous
Ya know
nocturne crest
Where 20% of the world's oil passes through.
daring creek
One of the most strategically important routes for transportation of oil
Nothing
Big
brave owl
i love foresight
vagrant fox
Don't worry about it
brave owl
its a shame no one has it
fervent geode
i love foresight
vagrant fox
I hope the scouring has Omegon die like an idiot bozo as well
daring creek
This world is ran by a bunch of geniuses isg 💜
vagrant fox
If GW changes it I'll do nothing but they shouldn't
vagrant fox
I'm pretty alpha yeah
vagrant fox
I don't want to go to Nottingham, it's too close to Grimsby
daring creek
Age of Smegmar
fervent geode
I don't want to go to Nottingham, it's too close to Grimsby
True, I’ll send my agent to attack
daring creek
True, I’ll send my agent to attack
Breaking bad
fervent geode
Breaking bad
Fixing Good
brave owl
gimme a bagel with everything
vagrant fox
True, I’ll send my agent to attack
Are the yankees okay
daring creek
Noh
fervent geode
Are the yankees okay
Never have been
daring creek
vagrant fox
True
daring creek
My brain is dumb
brave owl
its the lead in our pipes
daring creek
Thoughts are bad
solid horizon
True, I’ll send my agent to attack
daring creek
Freak ass puppy
fervent geode
https://tenor.com/view/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-man-dog-dog-dog-human-face...
Is that the guy from Star Wars
solid horizon
no, that's from the 1978 (very good) remake of Invasion of the Bodysnatchers
lament shoal
https://tenor.com/view/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-man-dog-dog-dog-human-face...
That shit freaked me out when I was a kid lmao
civic gale
https://tenor.com/view/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers-man-dog-dog-dog-human-face...
What in the-
solid horizon
What in the-
aliens who clone and replace humans fused banjo player hobo and his dog
all 3 in one
civic gale
Do we have any confirmation of a chapter whose primarch was a traitor but they are hiding it?
unique bronze
I dont think so?
Closest thing that comes to mind is the Fallen about the Dark Angels
vagrant fox
Just ADB saying there's some but it doesn't really matter who your special daddy is
civic gale
Well I mean..if your dad is a traitor I can see why most would not want to be known as they are a traitor
unique bronze
I think I remember reading somethinb about the Minotaurs being of Iron Warrior stock, but thats prolly speculation
vagrant fox
As in it doesn't make a chapter more interesting to have traitor geneseed and nothing else
unique bronze
I think there's some chapters out there like the Silver Skulls that are officially listed as Ultramarines successors, but their heraldy is like linked to loyalist Iron Warriors
I think it was Dantioch in that instance
vagrant fox
Pretty sure that our local author said they're just UM derived
fervent geode
Do we have any confirmation of a chapter whose primarch was a traitor but they a...
No
Silver Skulls are just UM honouring Dantioch
Like SotE
fervent geode
I think I remember reading somethinb about the Minotaurs being of Iron Warrior s...
Some playtester for FW Badab claimed it, but tbh he had no authority to do so
Personally I think they are Dangles
vagrant fox
Atp I'm entirely bored with loyalists with traitor geneseed just for the sake of it. It's almost never anything interesting
fervent geode
Atp I'm entirely bored with loyalists with traitor geneseed just for the sake of...
Hear hear
Like it adds nothing to the narrative
That’s not just clutching to 30k usually
storm jungle
Some playtester for FW Badab claimed it, but tbh he had no authority to do so
Wasnt playtesters
it was uhhh one of the guys that wrote their entire section in the books so literal outright confirmation
but obviously its not "canon" in big quotations
even the lexi page has it iirc
fervent geode
Wasnt playtesters
Wait ya sure?
storm jungle
Yeah hold on
vagrant fox
Yeah it's kind of just a Shyamalan wow isn't that a surprise twist that means absolutely nothing thing
fervent geode
I’ve not heard of that
fervent geode
Yeah it's kind of just a Shyamalan wow isn't that a surprise twist that means ab...
Yeah exactly
vagrant fox
Yeah it was one of the authors saying they intended that wasn't it, for the Badab thing
storm jungle
AH wait its a playtester ye
but him and Bligh literally talked about it
so basically 1:1 anyway
storm jungle
vagrant fox
It means nothing to me until it's confirmed
storm jungle
also this yeah
fervent geode
I HATE IW SUCCESSORS
fervent geode
It means nothing to me until it's confirmed
yeah same
vagrant fox
Anything to hate on the IW fanbase
storm jungle
As Ian says even tho its "confirmation" its still not official
fervent geode
Anything to hate on the IW fanbase
My theory is Kydomor Forrix possessed the playtester causing him to lie
vagrant fox
I'll believe it, a devious lick or whatever the kids say
vagrant fox
Not officially but it is/was intended
civic gale
Gotcha
I'm sad that sons of the Phoenix got culled
Getting so hyped you catch on warp fire and don't hurt anyone but enemies sounds dope
fervent geode
I'm sad that sons of the Phoenix got culled
They was always Dorn’s Dudes
The Author of the Chapter said as much
civic gale
From what I heard hunted down by the grey knights because an inquisitor said so
vagrant fox
They're still around aren't they, scrapping in the Nachmund Gauntlet and all
fervent geode
Yeah they are
civic gale
Oh so the sons of the phonenix arent dead? :D
fervent geode
From what I heard hunted down by the grey knights because an inquisitor said so
That sounds like the Flame Falcons
Yeah
civic gale
Wait-
civic gale
That sounds like the Flame Falcons
Yhose
fervent geode
Yeah they’ve just been as usual afaik
civic gale
Sorry
vagrant fox
Ah yeah Flame Falcons spontaneously combust
civic gale
My mistake
storm jungle
i think you got tricked by a game of telephone by online fans
civic gale
Honestly I confused sons of the Phoenix with the flame falcons
The name made me confused
Sorrg
unique bronze
Ah yeah Flame Falcons spontaneously combust
Are they psykers? 
fervent geode
Are they psykers? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
21st Founding
vagrant fox
Are they psykers? <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Geneseed magic
civic gale
Oh damn
vagrant fox
Perfect for a run of the worlds sorriest cop in Disco Elysium
Get to it
I reckon if my little blorbos ever became official and people started speculating they're of traitor stock because I decided to have them deviated from their parent chapter I'd throw a very mild tantrum
Good thing I'm safe
storm jungle
Yeah the "secretly traitor" thing is legit just "OCdonutsteel" shit in modern times
theres literally nothing wrong with just making your Successor descend from some loyalist founding chapter lol
vagrant fox
Yeah I decided to have mine original IF but mutated into being listed as unknown
storm jungle
Yea people also forget like you can have your Chapter descend from some vanilla stock like the Ultramarines but have them be ENTIRELY different from their parent chapter
i have that for like 3/5 of my Chapters
civic gale
I am inspired by the flame falcons, maybe make a very warp attuned chapter....problem is the inquisition
vagrant fox
Yea, thousands of years is plenty of time to deviate culturally and genetically, there's too much of a focus on a special daddy
Imo
storm jungle
100%
vagrant fox
I am inspired by the flame falcons, maybe make a very warp attuned chapter....pr...
You can do that, go wild
civic gale
You can do that, go wild
I can but
storm jungle
like you CAN make a Chapter with a mysterious origin too and just have them never know where they descended from, thats also pretty realistic/fun.
storm jungle
Yeah mine was the original founding members of the Chapter simply never wanted to keep records due to some "shame" and took it to the grave with them, so afterwards the modern brotherhood legit has no record to go off of
cerulean trellis
I am inspired by the flame falcons, maybe make a very warp attuned chapter....pr...
i mean if you go warp attuned = librarian heavy, it is no problem
vagrant fox
I was thinking about mine having some less corrupted traitor trophies and having a do you realise how fucked we are moment when they rediscover it and have forgotten their origin despite being of loyalists origins entirely
Probably not though
storm jungle
tbh theres goofier origins out there, i wouldnt worry lol
when you like put some Chapters into paper that are canon they legit sound cringe/deviantart
"WE ARE ANTI-DAEMON AND MAKE TRIALS WHERE WE LET OUR MEMBERS GET POSSESSED BY DEMONS"
"WE ARE BADASS CRUSADERS AND ENTIRELY IGNORE THE CODEX AND HAVE THOUSANDS OF FLEETS OF BROTHERS GRRR"
lol
vagrant fox
Nah it just has to suit the vibes I crave, I don't think that's it
So far the only thing I haven't changed much is them killing a different loyalist chapter of UM origin for loot because they were running out, then striking a bargain with the inquisition who threatened to sell them out to the Ultramarines lmbo
civic gale
i mean if you go warp attuned = librarian heavy, it is no problem
I want something like that flame falcons tho...just not the same thing because the flame falcons already had it
vagrant fox
Warp shenanigans manifest in a myriad of ways. You just gotta get jiggy with it
civic gale
There's lots of cool shit but idk what to do
vagrant fox
There's lots of cool shit but idk what to do
Throw some ideas at the wall and see what sticks, it's ultimately for your own enjoyment
cerulean trellis
There's lots of cool shit but idk what to do
maybe wanna take a look into Wrath & Glory or Imperium Maledictum ruelbnnooks abotu warp shenanigans and stuff
vagrant fox
Dark Heresy has some fun stuff
I played a Deathwatch game where my librarian rolled perils which made my guardsmen fly up in the air and crash back to the ground
It killed them but casting smite on an ork was more important
civic gale
Uhh the one I can think which isn't very original is what I call "phase out" as in the individual can blink in an out of reality (in case in and out of the warp) but long exposure would be like radiation poisoning
Doesn't seem too original tho
vagrant fox
Don't worry about originality, it has all been done. If you enjoy the concept it's good
civic gale
I guess but I still wanna try to make something original
vagrant fox
Wraithslip can work for the RG it can work for your blorbos
Yeah just put your spin on an idea
civic gale
"Manifestations of the armory"
Where they can summon warp weaponry to orbit them and serve as extra defense or extra power
That one actually sounds decent
civic gale
Oo cool
vagrant fox
There's some crazy powers in the Deathwatch TTRPG you can be inspired by
Salamander psykers can just summon a warp dragon iirc
civic gale
Damn?
vagrant fox
For a lord commander I'm wholesale just stealing Ashurbanipals destruction of Elam for when they put down a rebellion
civic gale
Só I guess my armory power thingymabob isn't that crazy
I wonder if it is very original
Or if just different from most
As long as it's not basic I'll take it and run with it
Hmmm
civic gale
There's some crazy powers in the Deathwatch TTRPG you can be inspired by
Salaman...
What's the power called?
vagrant fox
These are psyker shenanigans but still
It's down in the Salamanders section, fury of the something
Probably salamander
cerulean trellis
I wonder if it is very original
i cna guarantee you what you this: whatever you think about it has been done in some game already
or anime
or manga
or book
civic gale
Probably salamander
Fury of the salamander
cerulean trellis
i created a name by throwing scrabble pieces in the air and using onyl the face up letters back when there was no internet
vagrant fox
Yea, as I said put your own spin on an idea you like dw about originality
cerulean trellis
started WoW wanted to use that name: already in use
civic gale
i cna guarantee you what you this: whatever you think about it has been done in ...
Oh no I know I just wonder in 40k standards
vagrant fox
There's a homebrew wiki if you really want to investigate
Every idea I've ever had is on there somewhere
civic gale
I'm thinking of either
"Weaponry of the warp"
Or "Warp firepower"
Not definitive names tho
cerulean trellis
I'm thinking of either
"Weaponry of the warp"
Or "Warp firepower"
Not definit...
Warpfire Armory
cerulean trellis
in music 😔
true xd
civic gale
The first is blades can be conjured up by the librarians
The second is not guns but warp bullets that can be fired without any trigger but the Librarian's will
Actually....
Maybe both
solid horizon
so basically psychic attack
civic gale
Yes and no
Like....idk those ghost blades things you see in movies and shit where they orbit around the user
solid horizon
blaze rods ?
civic gale
The point of that is that the user (in my chapter) need to manifest his will (aka make them appear) to be able to make them work
Otherwise an invisible bullet just isn't cool
Rule of cool wins
solid horizon
so psychic bullets
civic gale
Bonus points if the user summons his weapon inside a foe and it just erupts from inside the enemy
solid horizon
Brother Americanus gonna summon bullets by the sheer strength of his second amendment willpower
vagrant fox
And no one told me there's a new Arbitor Ian video
surreal nest
Why hasn't any skirmish/wargame made a mobile app for me to play at work
I would dump billions
Can a young man play warcry at work fuck dude
daring creek
Play balatro
daring creek
It is im p sure
celest dome
Can a young man play warcry at work fuck dude
Cause GW want to sell miniatures and not just the IP
Balatro does have a mobile port
unique bronze
its 10 bucks reeee
surreal nest
Cause GW want to sell miniatures and not just the IP
That doesnt add up for the amount of computer games that replicate tabletop gameplay
unique bronze
I already have it on pc tho
daring creek
Never too late for mobile
surreal nest
Play balatro
I do
daring creek
daring creek
Sloplike
surreal nest
You are slop by definition
solid horizon
you're a incelcore slopchud tourist
vagrant fox
Buttonslop
solid horizon
woke
daring creek
Wokeslop
vagrant fox
Actually kind of goated, great insight into why early orks had some unfortunate imagery
solid horizon
ork nobles
vagrant fox
New phone
daring creek
Why are you not using samsung
unique bronze
lmao
solid horizon
orks are basically space 60-80s skinheads so no wonder they have a cockney accent on steroids
daring creek
Are those fascists or anti establishment punks
daring creek
The only other thing I can think of are 40 year old dads watching a game
With a pint
solid horizon
well a lot of these were skins in their wee lad youth
daring creek
Yeah I got that vibe from Orks already tbh
solid horizon
im painting an ork with skinhead scheme and to be fair it barely feels like anything changed
daring creek
Do orks drink beer or anything like that
solid horizon
solid horizon
Do orks drink beer or anything like that
idk
daring creek
Good job
brave owl
I believe they do
solid horizon
now funny thing, some sisters of battle have skinhead lass haircuts despite having no relation with orks
this is a reminder that warhammer is a piece of ficiton made by brits
brave owl
Everything involving food and drink and fashion basically involves Squigs for Orks
Or Gretchens
yeah, squigbeer
vagrant fox
Do orks drink beer or anything like that
Yea
solid horizon
me and the lads washing down with that squig stout ale
vagrant fox
Brewboyz make fungus beer and liquors
brave owl
but 90% of everything comes from squigs or scrap LUL
vagrant fox
That's very old lore though, brewboyz
solid horizon
proppa day in the waaagh with the boyz, a pint of fungus beer and bloodbowl
brave owl
im crankin' my squighog
solid horizon
damn if I didnt dedicate the entirety of my budget to chaos army I'd be 100% playing orks
proppa ladz are fun to play and paint
dice bucket
100 attacks fired, only one hits
brave owl
classic
I remember supposedly there was an ork unit which teleported gretchens inside other units and it had a chance of just insta killing anything supposedly
but it was so random it could also just kill your units too
solid horizon
eldar warp spiders have something similar
they can teleport but there is a chance they die in the process
me when the squad of 5 teleports but only one guy remains
solid horizon
im getting old metal abby (not because its metal but rather because it's the cheapest)
but since I only need him for his ruleset and not because he's abby im going to switch the head, even if not a termie head I gotta say it looks p cool (photobash preview)
sacred bluff
brave owl
that suit gotta dumpy
cerulean trellis
takes sign and puts it on a chobbit style roboit while giggling
vagrant fox
Augh, Restless Dead already disappoints
sterile sun
Who are the chums in the back of commissar Graves's whip
I think they're semtexian bombadiers but I know nuffin
wary fulcrum
Are those fascists or anti establishment punks
The Goffs are fascist
They’re the Met police
celest cedar
Roman larpers when its actually time to die for rich elites that dont give af about them 😱
flat nimbus
I don't think those are semtexians
“Semtexian” can’t be real
storm jungle
Im sorry but it is 😭
storm jungle
Who are the chums in the back of commissar Graves's whip
Rn we dont know but probably just bootlicker guards that accompany commissars
they got their own uniform/gear and everything
languid meadow
It'd literally just "Semtex" but with the last part added to denote a person being from there
It's just
Explosive planet
rose thorn
Who are the chums in the back of commissar Graves's whip
this is just her personal guard
sterile sun
They only share a pickelhaube
I thought they might be since they went to armageddon and this is the armageddon arc right
languid meadow
Which is cool we don't get many regiments like that
rose thorn
Who are the chums in the back of commissar Graves's whip
the lex sasys tehy are her "officio perfectus retinue"
sterile sun
Theres a war codex?
storm jungle
yea Crusade Armageddon
very dry and boring though
id suggest just wathing an Arbitrator Ian coverage
rose thorn
I wanna kitbash into the limo SO BAD
storm jungle
they are deffo not scions
languid meadow
I love it
storm jungle
my boys would not be caught dead wearing that gestapo shit
rose thorn
The Aquila ram always looks so good
fr, i wanna find a guard player whoswill buy the ram and her signia bits because i couldnt let those go to waste
yeahh eyahh eyYEAHHH
languid meadow
they are deffo not scions
I don't think they're guard either, they're a secret evil 3rd thing... Aka new schola abuse route for kids
rose thorn
remember, every Guard release is a GSC release
until we arent allowed to take guard again
solid horizon
they got their own uniform/gear and everything
no way, cannon fodder lychguard
storm jungle
I don't think they're guard either, they're a secret evil 3rd thing... Aka new s...
lmao yea
storm jungle
ye ye
fervent geode
remember, every Guard release is a GSC release
Cults and Militia 30k
solid horizon
every guard release is a renegade guard release
fervent geode
Cults and Militia 30k<:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
Every GSC release is also Cults and Militia 30k
rose thorn
Cults and Militia 30k<:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
gsc dont exist in 30k (im except that one thing)
fervent geode
gsc dont exist in 30k (im except that one thing)
I’m just gonna say they are freaky looking people
sterile sun
I'm just curious if there's a regular grill under that Aquila snow plow so it looks like a fancy taurox
solid horizon
probably
rose thorn
I'm just curious if there's a regular grill under that Aquila snow plow so it lo...
that is a great question, it looks like in lore the ram is removable
solid horizon
there is a chance it's wargear
rose thorn
to me it loks like this is removable
solid horizon
what surprises me is the minigun on driver seat
rose thorn
arent htey british
solid horizon
arent htey british
thats what troubles me exactly
GW being british would make you believe they'd design vehicles to follow british rules, but apparently no
storm jungle
Corny ass
solid horizon
there is no corn in my ass thank you
rose thorn
OOO OO IUMAGINUNE HIM ON TOP INSTEAD
storm jungle
Because they're labeled as offico preafectus
also was looking at the lexi page
daring creek
why cant genestealers grow any hair
languid meadow
storm jungle
her loyal Officio Prefectus retinue, known as the The Right Hand, who carry the Commissar's personal banner.[
solid horizon
whar
solid horizon
whappen to the land speeder
rose thorn
why cant genestealers grow any hair
bones are too thick
storm jungle
whappen to the land speeder
land raider
solid horizon
land speeder is suitable for british driving laws, more or less
solid horizon
land raider
land raider
storm jungle
land raider
land raider
solid horizon
land raider !
rose thorn
why cant genestealers grow any hair
also no nids have hair, so i assume since the nid dna is dominant
sterile sun
Land speed limit
storm jungle
i assume nids suffer from Dinosaur Pattern Badlness
rose thorn
thats why they lost to the space wolves...
rose thorn
have teh space wolves lost any canonical battle/
storm jungle
fervent geode
have teh space wolves lost any canonical battle/
Yeah Alaxxes (dangles had to save them)
solid horizon
i assume nids suffer from Dinosaur Pattern Badlness
genestealers when I throw a bigass meteor at them
storm jungle
they can parry it
rose thorn
genestealers when I throw a bigass meteor at them
there is a gsc that literally does that
fervent geode
Also uh Trisolian I think they got cooked
daring creek
i assume nids suffer from Dinosaur Pattern Badlness
dilara is going bald?!?!? 😱
fervent geode
Yes
solid horizon
there is a gsc that literally does that
sis, they constantly spam explosives and grenades
of course they do
limpid granite
solid horizon
now excuse me, I have GSC remote explosive stratagem PTSD
rose thorn
sis, they constantly spam explosives and grenades
there is a cult, sons of jourganmunder(?) who know about hte nids, so they fill asteroids wiht tyranid spores and fling them at planets fromt heir space station
solid horizon
alien romulus lore
rose thorn
now excuse me, I have GSC remote explosive stratagem PTSD
d3+3 mortals
rose thorn
Yeah Alaxxes (dangles had to save them)
lex says the wont that battle lmao
solid horizon
d3+3 mortals
fervent geode
lex says the wont that battle lmao
I mean the Dark Angels saved them
The shame will never fade
They lost at Yarant too
The RG had to save them
Trisolian was still their biggest L
No one to save them
rose thorn
Trisolian was still their biggest L
yeah, the wiki still says it was basically a draw
but they did lose
so eh
gg
fervent geode
yeah, the wiki still says it was basically a draw
Basically they had to retreat and Leman was knocked out but so was Horus i suppose
But it weakened them until they got besieged at Yarant III
And Corax had to break them out
rose thorn
its so fucking funny, space wolves bsaically almost got a draw single handedly against horus' perosnal battle force
they lose but in the most marry sue way possible
fervent geode
It was their whole legion against mostly SoH plus some others
I think they got off worse though
solid horizon
wolf bros got owned
wary fulcrum
It was their whole legion against mostly SoH plus some others
Which would have meant they were massively outnumbered
fervent geode
Since at Yarant the Legion was severely cooked
fervent geode
Which would have meant they were massively outnumbered
They were outnumbered yeah
But none of the opposing legions came in full force
So it wouldn’t have been too overwhelming even if they were sure to lose
Leman lost his chance to kill Horus, which was the point iirc
storm jungle
my favorite part of that book was uh
"YEA I MADE A DENT IN HORUS' ARMOR AND SOUL"
This is never mentioned again
also is one of the most funny examples of "I can kill Horus now but i wont because uh woof woof idk"
rose thorn
LMAOOOOOO
fervent geode
>**This is never mentioned again**
I think they fixed him in Slaves to Darkness
storm jungle
yeah gave him some anti-vaccine
wary fulcrum
"YEA I MADE A DENT IN HORUS' ARMOR AND SOUL"
That would require GW to plan shit though
flat nimbus
The real reason Harlequins are Like That is because they’ve all had to try and discern some kind of throughline to the entire Black Library
“It’s… all a big prank? Let’s go with that.”
daring creek
trolling
winged jacinth
Harlequins in the black library be like "ive looked all over and still cant find this last Bequin book"
storm jungle
That would require GW to plan shit though
Mid
winged jacinth
Today's just gonna be one of those days
winged jacinth
You said "just one of those days" under a gif of stuff being broken
How can i not post the hit song Break Stuff
flat nimbus
beloved ally, Fred Durst
near wasp
daring creek
https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-crash-out-angry-gif-15667791719891680630
Smooth
At McDonald's
What buy
wary fulcrum
20 nuggets and a chocolate shake
daring creek
They're having a kpop demon hunters deal
I love eating literal slop
I can't wait for my burger covered in glitter
languid meadow
love looking through my ordering app and going through all the food category's
just for
MCDONALDS
to be its own one lol
daring creek
Resisting the urge to eat wet cement
vagrant fox
It's impressive at how they peak out at a like 6/10 for their best food
languid meadow
fries is the only thing I genuinely think is better than other places
they put crack on them bitches
languid meadow
I put way more salt on wendy or dairy queen fries
it's not that
it's how they're cooked
also wendys fucked up their fries
so gross now
languid meadow
wary fulcrum
A lot of salt
So much so that specifically McDonalds salt is reccomended as something to eat immediately after IVF transfer
rancid cove
hallow saddle
tfw i want to throw molotovs at the OpenWarp ceos house in warhammer 40k
near wasp
Hey look we're learning to use innuendo and obfuscation congrats
flat nimbus
hmm why does this season have four episodes “747” “Down” “Over” “K’un L’un”
daring creek
I dont want to go back outside
civic gale
So
This is my new chapter
"The phantom knights"
Cringe emo name but
It's based as most chapter is composed of librarians which can use their psyker powers to make weapons of warp/psychics energy
Maybe
Phantom books is better because, librarians are also very much about the chapter knowledge right?
civic gale
This makes me think about 7/11 slushi
Based
daring creek
if trump kicks out all of the illegals where are kids gonna get churros and those delicious icys
and cotton candy
civic gale
if trump kicks out all of the illegals where are kids gonna get churros and thos...
Idk
I don't live there
daring creek
civic gale
Alright my blueberry ice scream- I mean phantom weapons marine's color scheme is selected
daring creek
Alright my blueberry ice scream- I mean phantom weapons marine's color scheme is...
Maybe Pale Phantoms?
or the Pale Knights?
civic gale
A Space Ghost Marine chapter wouldn't be bad
Did you know read their name?
"phantom weapons"
Tsk tsk tsk
How many librarians can a chapter have?
Or psykers marines
Before the inquisition says "NUH UH"
daring creek
How many librarians can a chapter have?
I was thinking more design wise
civic gale
I was thinking more design wise
Oh I know
daring creek
Before the inquisition says "NUH UH"
civic gale
They totally won't fall to tzeentch
I have to make something to counter that tho yeh
daring creek
The answer is
Yes.
Librarians however idk
but they get the go because theyre anti daemon wholly
civic gale
I just want a chapter that is FULL of psyker marines
daring creek
yea thats the grey knights
civic gale
Again, their whole shtick is "oh no you blocked my sword....deal with the psychic sword now"
civic gale
Unoriginal, next
solid horizon
chill bro
daring creek
That makes me wonder
civic gale
I am chill
solid horizon
it's called a grey tide
civic gale
You are not the first to point it out lmao
solid horizon
You are not the first to point it out lmao
idk I just hopped in
solid horizon
someone asked me what I would name my abaddon-based chaos champion and so I came in here to find inspiration
fervent geode
UM librarius is like 28 guys
solid horizon
I saw chinese vase marine
fervent geode
someone asked me what I would name my abaddon-based chaos champion and so I came...
Khageddon
near wasp
someone asked me what I would name my abaddon-based chaos champion and so I came...
Dagon
solid horizon
supposedly it's also that one chaos lord I had 15 years ago, and I cant remember what I named him, so it's more a memory game
said guy
fervent geode
If he’s Cthonian something ddon is your best bet
celest dome
Forgetton
civic gale
UM librarius is like 28 guys
Are only librarians the psykers of the chapters?
fervent geode
Are only librarians the psykers of the chapters?
Yeah
solid horizon
lmao
near wasp
Also if it's an entire chapter of psykers they likely have low numbers are are probably thousand sons geneseed
civic gale
That's all my chapter is
solid horizon
I thought of naming him Hawkwind but it sounds too tzeenchian
celest dome
You can't really use TSons Geneseed iirc
Due to the curse
Well, I guess if you're doing full Psyker it might work
near wasp
I mean you can you'd just have to deal with the flesh change
civic gale
Due to the curse
what curse
fervent geode
124 Librarians
You can’t do that boss, they’ll kill you
solid horizon
what curse
civic gale
You can’t do that boss, they’ll kill you
Why ;-;
fervent geode
what curse
All your marines become rubrics except the Chief Librarian prob
civic gale
FUCK
celest dome
Any Psyker would be safe in theory
fervent geode
Why ;-;
It’s very codex non compliant and psykers are already mistrusted enough, a whole chapter would prob raise some eyebrows
fervent geode
Any Psyker would be safe in theory
A lot of the Tsons psykers turned anyway
near wasp
I mean won't the geneseed that was stored in vaults in Mars not be affected by the rubric
fervent geode
It was mainly the most powerful librarians who survived as sorcerers
fervent geode
I mean won't the geneseed that was stored in vaults in Mars not be affected by t...
It will be
All gene seed anywhere forever
solid horizon
what about word bearer geneseed
civic gale
It’s very codex non compliant and psykers are already mistrusted enough, a whole...
54 librarians only is the lowest I'll go
fervent geode
Loyal marines
fervent geode
54 librarians only is the lowest I'll go
6 librarians per company is very sus
near wasp
That's only twice as many as ultramarines
civic gale
6 librarians per company is very sus
Company? What company
fervent geode
Company? What company <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
You doing non compliant chapter org
fervent geode
That's only twice as many as ultramarines
Ordo Astartes Gold
civic gale
Do the grey knights have a company?
No right?
Just a single org of them full of psyker marines
near wasp
Yes they do
civic gale
Right?
fervent geode
Do the grey knights have a company?
Yeah
civic gale
Fuck I'll take a full ass non-chapter of only 22 dudes who are incredibly skilled psykers
fervent geode
In 30k?
near wasp
Bro doesn't get it, non compliant chapters get purged
fervent geode
I mean 22 chapterless psyker marines running around in 40K are definitely getting hunted or killed by the Ordo Astartes or Ordo Malleus
near wasp
Unless there's a really good reason for them to be allowed to exist
civic gale
My ideas get twarted because I myself suck at making them
fervent geode
If you want to do a Space Marine Chapter Homebrew, I suggest reading a Space Marine Codex
near wasp
Don't make them all psykers instead they have a higher than normal amount of psykers and have them organize themselves differently
rose thorn
Alright my blueberry ice scream- I mean phantom weapons marine's color scheme is...
pretty sick
near wasp
The design is awesome just the actual org is tough
civic gale
Unless there's a really good reason for them to be allowed to exist
I guess a single marine being as good as 6 companies is just stupid, in my idea they are meant to be the perfect "psyker/marine" which can fuck up a bunch of shit due to their incredibly high psyker powers, all under the watchful eye of the inquisition and even the grey knights, as if one's faith even begins to falter they get immediately hunted and killed
fervent geode
I guess a single marine being as good as 6 companies is just stupid, in my idea ...
They already have the GK for that tho
civic gale
They already have the GK for that tho
That's the problem
fervent geode
That's the problem
Maybe do a 30k Blackshield Homebrew?
solid horizon
If he’s Cthonian something ddon is your best bet
im thinking Balthazar or Byron, maybe both
civic gale
I just wanted to have a chapter that could summon ethereal weaponry
fervent geode
They could be a force of Loyalist Thousand Sons psykers
solid horizon
they sound like names black legion dudes could have
fervent geode
im thinking Balthazar or Byron, maybe both
Balthazar Vhazaddon
fervent geode
Nah bro it’s just that the Imperium is like that
near wasp
Your ideas don't suck you just need to know the structure
fervent geode
I suggest going traitor
near wasp
Oh great now there recruiting
fervent geode
They have so many stupid conventions and kill you for everything
civic gale
Chaos....
fervent geode
Oh great now there recruiting
It’s just a truth nuking
civic gale
Hmm
near wasp
Renegade is honestly the best bet
solid horizon
fervent geode
Renegade usually leads to Chaos esp going the psyker route so I approve
near wasp
You can still help people and have a different structure, but you'll be doing it while being pursuited
civic gale
What's the difference between chaos allegiance and renegade?
fervent geode
Basically like the Soul Drinkers
fervent geode
What's the difference between chaos allegiance and renegade?
The Imperium fucking hates you but you haven’t gone in the Eye of Terror or fallen into Chaos influence yet
civic gale
Basically like the Soul Drinkers
You are speaking Chinese to me brother, I really do need an explanation
fervent geode
You are speaking Chinese to me brother, I really do need an explanation
我沒有
wary fulcrum
My ideas just suck
Nah they’re alright, they just need to be shaped a lil
civic gale
Well....the empirium hating me but me not having any allies kinda sucks
But chaos doesn't have allies either
wary fulcrum
You are speaking Chinese to me brother, I really do need an explanation
Chaos worship the chaos gods and work to bring the Imperium down
Renegades may (or may not) support the Imperium but the imperium does not support them
They may also not like the chaos gods
civic gale
Chaos worship the chaos gods and work to bring the Imperium down
Renegades may ...
Renegade it is
fervent geode
And if the Imperium doesn’t support you as an Astartes org they are hunting you
So it’ll be quite a ride
near wasp
You might be able to make deals with forge worlds for supplies if you trade archotech
civic gale
Fuck it man, vigilante shit
fervent geode
Basically yeah lol
near wasp
You can kidnap recruits
fervent geode
You might be able to make deals with forge worlds for supplies if you trade arch...
Really really background deals with more questionable Magos tho
near wasp
Or go to feral worlds and just steal people
fervent geode
But yeah
civic gale
They fuck up Chaos or Xenos and with their hugely overpowered powers just dip if the empirium gets close
wary fulcrum
Or go to feral worlds and just steal people
You can go to most worlds and just take people if you fancy
civic gale
Hmm nah grey knights would counter that shit prolly
wary fulcrum
They’re literally free
fervent geode
Hmm nah grey knights would counter that shit prolly
I mean GK don’t randomly appear
midnight dragon
yea thats the grey knights
@arctic talon
So im going to my local games workshop for the first time today to try the tabletop, what kinda stunt should I do to make me remembered
near wasp
Gk won't care
fervent geode
They need high level authorisation usually to deal with Daemons
wary fulcrum
Hmm nah grey knights would counter that shit prolly
Nah GK are for daemons
You’d be getting hunted by Witch Hunters though
surreal nest
Unless there's a really good reason for them to be allowed to exist
go ahead name all the reasons black templars and space wolves need to exist
fervent geode
Some renegades fucking around would probably be ignored
wary fulcrum
And possibly SoB
surreal nest
go ahead name all the reasons black templars and space wolves need to exist
and you cant say their odor
arctic talon
<@255478624851853312>
So im going to my local games workshop for the first tim...
The employees won’t care unless you do something that gets you kicked out bruh
fervent geode
go ahead name all the reasons black templars and space wolves need to exist
1st Founding and 2nd Founding
Big exception there
arctic talon
and you cant say their odor
They’re cool now hush
fervent geode
SW are cool af
midnight dragon
The employees won’t care unless you do something that gets you kicked out bruh
Thats not what I asked
wary fulcrum
go ahead name all the reasons black templars and space wolves need to exist
Corner the Viking market
Corner the Crusader market
Next!
fervent geode
Vikings and shit are dope man
civic gale
Nah GK are for daemons
You’d be getting hunted by Witch Hunters though
Which hunter marines?
arctic talon
Thats not what I asked
If you want to be remembered get kicked out lol
wary fulcrum
Which hunter marines?
Witch Hunter Inquisitors
fervent geode
Which hunter marines?
Ordo Hereticus Inquisitors
arctic talon
I’m not sure why the fuck you’re asking about “being remembered” I’m deadass
wary fulcrum
Arguably worse than SM
civic gale
FAHHH
fervent geode
They have way more authority and influence
surreal nest
They’re cool now hush
fervent geode
They can get whole chapters, regiments and orders on your ass
civic gale
I mean...
midnight dragon
I’m not sure why the fuck you’re asking about “being remembered” I’m deadass
My debuts gotta define the typa person ill be
near wasp
I mean tbh if your renagades keep moving and your unlikely to be caught unless you really really piss of the inquisition
midnight dragon
I gotta do something crazy or notable
arctic talon
That’s
civic gale
If you can just phase out in seconds due to your immense psyker power....is this too op or?
wary fulcrum
If you can just phase out in seconds due to your immense psyker power....is this...
Yes
Though the 13th company can literally do that
midnight dragon
Awful but okay lol
How?
near wasp
Most humans who see Marines arrive to help them will not question it
surreal nest
whats a chapter that has been purged for just being non compliant
fervent geode
I mean tbh if your renagades keep moving and your unlikely to be caught unless y...
Yeah definitely some local inquisitorial conclave will keep tabs but unless your too horrible you die
fervent geode
whats a chapter that has been purged for just being non compliant
Flame Falcons
wary fulcrum
whats a chapter that has been purged for just being non compliant
Astral Claws
arctic talon
Astral claws did more then that
surreal nest
Ok now try listing two real ones
arctic talon
lol
fervent geode
Astral Claws
I mean their non compliance was a lot of shit but yeah
civic gale
Yeah definitely some local inquisitorial conclave will keep tabs but unless your...
So wait, they only show up if we are being a genuine big threat to the empirium right? (The important of the important inquisitiors
wary fulcrum
Imperium just had the non-compliance
Found all the other stuff after (and tbh, a lot of the other stuff was because they were attacked)
arctic talon
How?
I don’t like standing out next question lol.
Something something “the nail that sticks out gets hammered back in place” lol
wary fulcrum
So wait, they only show up if we are being a genuine big threat to the empirium ...
Nah, they can show up if they’re curious
Inquisitors are like cats
surreal nest
yeah but i mean a chapter that was eliminated purely for being non compliant
fervent geode
So wait, they only show up if we are being a genuine big threat to the empirium ...
There will defo be some inquisitorial spying but they might not immediately stamp you out
fervent geode
yeah but i mean a chapter that was eliminated purely for being non compliant
These are all non compliance issues
Badab, Flame Falcons etc
Too psychic
Too Legion buildy
midnight dragon
I don’t like standing out next question lol.
Something something “the nail th...
I dont like conformity, I wanna be an individual, someone of note
celest dome
People who are trying to be remembered for the sake of being remembered usually kinda suck
fervent geode
Trvke
arctic talon
I dont like conformity, I wanna be an individual, someone of note
Yeah then don’t ask me for advice on it lol
wary fulcrum
I dont like conformity, I wanna be an individual, someone of note
Just like everyone else
arctic talon
I think conformity is good to an extent lol
near wasp
Lol
arctic talon
There’s a time to express yourself and a time not to lol
civic gale
There will defo be some inquisitorial spying but they might not immediately stam...
I mean.....people try to keep tracks on batman, and whenever they do as long as he just doesn't do too much shit he's not off the hook but they ....somewhat...overlook it
arctic talon
Don’t make a fool of yourself
wary fulcrum
Just be kind and courteous to the staff
fervent geode
I think conformity is good to an extent lol
I’m ready to keep a high social credit score is all
wary fulcrum
That’ll do more to make you stand out than anything else
arctic talon
Unless you try and murder me
surreal nest
isn't there a difference between a chapter being non codex compliant and a chapter being an active danger to themselves and other people though? In the case of flame falcons
arctic talon
Then you don’t get to live your life how you please
civic gale
You can live your life however you wish
Some routes may end up badly tho
arctic talon
Smh
fervent geode
I mean.....people try to keep tracks on batman, and whenever they do as long as ...
Basically sorta but they’ll always be keeping tabs on you
If you still help the Imperium
celest dome
Unless you try and murder me
So anybody else is fair game ?
near wasp
I mean.....people try to keep tracks on batman, and whenever they do as long as ...
Basically don't draw too much attention and don't give the people you help a reason to doubt you and you'll be fine
arctic talon
No
civic gale
Basically sorta but they’ll always be keeping tabs on you
Shit man, I don't mind then
fervent geode
Maybe your not top priority
fervent geode
Murder is bad
surreal nest
flame falcons are so funny what a bunch of fucking freaks
solid horizon
kill people
arctic talon
The Confucian proverb of “murder is bad” is well known throughout China
celest dome
You can't just say that after telling us we could kill anybody else
vagrant fox
I should be allowed to murder, as a treat
solid horizon
break stuff
near wasp
Most people won't question when normal looking Marines come to help
wary fulcrum
Shit man, I don't mind then
To be honest, lots of overpowered psykers is going to be actively hunted down by the inquisition and weaponised
fervent geode
Most people won't question when normal looking Marines come to help
Tfw when your Grand Company gets guardsmen praying to yall
civic gale
Maybe your not top priority
Shit they may be keeping tabs on my phantoms but as long as we don't do something dodgy we should be safe....weary, but safe
surreal nest
we should attack space marine librarians with heavy clubs
fervent geode
Shit they may be keeping tabs on my phantoms but as long as we don't do somethin...
They’ll probably take some punitive action from time to time but as long as yall ain’t really fucking the Imperium you’ll probably get off less horrendous
solid horizon
we should attack space marine librarians with heavy clubs
yes
fervent geode
we should attack space marine librarians with heavy clubs
Mortarion is that you??
civic gale
To be honest, lots of overpowered psykers is going to be actively hunted down by...
Their main gimmick is that they are not overpowered, they just use ethereal weaponry to fuck up enemies of the empirium but due to their psyker nature they are considered renegades...that make sense?
solid horizon
bash their skull, crack it open and drink their blood in it
arctic talon
Exa
I do not consider going to a store to learn a game for the first time the time to “express yourself” personally lol. Especially to the retail employee who has to deal with who knows what regularly
fervent geode
Their main gimmick is that they are not overpowered, they just use ethereal weap...
There’s the whole ordeal of how the chapter went renegade now
You could just say they started developing mass psychic powers and defected
fervent geode
There’s actually a chapter that had that happen
surreal nest
they already experience this type of shit on a daily basis
civic gale
There’s the whole ordeal of how the chapter went renegade now
Isn't being considered too much of a danger and disobeying the inquisition despite knowing they are helping the empirium not good nuff
wary fulcrum
Their main gimmick is that they are not overpowered, they just use ethereal weap...
Might be just me, but I feel like ethereal weaponry is enough to attract the attention of witch hunters
Being renegades would get everyone else’s attention too
solid horizon
You could just say they started developing mass psychic powers and defected
I read that as "they started developing mass psychic powers and defecated"
near wasp
Nurgles strong with this one
fervent geode
Isn't being considered too much of a danger and disobeying the inquisition despi...
I mean if it’s a renegade chapter they must’ve been excommunicated at some point
wary fulcrum
Isn't being considered too much of a danger and disobeying the inquisition despi...
Betraying the will of the emperor of mankind?
That’s heresy
fervent geode
I read that as "they started developing mass psychic powers and defecated"
Calas Typhon life story
solid horizon
becomes psyker
shits
civic gale
Betraying the will of the emperor of mankind?
That’s heresy
They aren't betraying the will
They simply do not like the inquisition
surreal nest
They simply do not like the inquisition
average space marine
civic gale
The inquisition isn't the will of the emperor
near wasp
They are
wary fulcrum
They simply do not like the inquisition
No one likes the inquisition
wary fulcrum
The inquisition isn't the will of the emperor
Oh they are
They act with the emperor’s authority
civic gale
So the emperor said "worship me as a god" and "kill all mutants"
storm jungle
hes literally been a fascist from day 1
surreal nest
not so much as said it as directly inspired it from his crazy ass behavior
storm jungle
this isnt something that happened once he was enthroned
also that yeah
the Imperium's current predicament is all beause they were all-genocidal
near wasp
He did say kill all mutants
wary fulcrum
So the emperor said "worship me as a god" and "kill all mutants"
‘Kill all mutants’ yes
‘Worship me as a god’ - as far as the Imperium are concerned he did, and anyone who disagrees is burned at the stake
Possibly with the stake inside them
civic gale
Then idk what made them renegades
storm jungle
He did say kill all mutants
Also allowed things like servitors and slaves lol
solid horizon
bruh my brother just sent me this, secondhand minis for sale https://images1.vinted.net/t/05_008d3_51ehxBBDyQwyftG96iu55ijN/f800/1775868039.webp?s=557910df6fd511133ea2616899f3428ddd57b080
wtf is this shitass conversion
near wasp
Are those squats wtf
storm jungle
‘Kill all mutants’ yes
‘Worship me as a god’ - as far as the Imperium are conce...
Yeah the god thing the authors also REALLY tried to handwave afterwards too
storm jungle
"WELL SEE HE MEANT IT IN A JOKE WAY"
wary fulcrum
bruh my brother just sent me this, secondhand minis for sale https://images1.vin...
Mk 3 armour
Iron warriors colours
Noise marines weapons…?
storm jungle
its so bad lol
solid horizon
horus heresy noise marines exist in lore, but not in mini
solid horizon
Mk 3 armour
Iron warriors colours
Noise marines weapons…?
iron warriors are not black
surreal nest
bruh my brother just sent me this, secondhand minis for sale https://images1.vin...
its like those people that put krieg heads on space marines
arctic talon
horus heresy noise marines exist in lore, but not in mini
They do have minis
surreal nest
i fucking hate those people
arctic talon
The Kakophoni
storm jungle
iron warriors are not black
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wary fulcrum
iron warriors are not black
I’m pretty sure they’re literally painted iron warrior
arctic talon
solid horizon
bruh my brother just sent me this, secondhand minis for sale https://images1.vin...
these are clearly painted like 40k EC's
fervent geode
They should make a Marius Vairosean
vagrant fox
Is that you, Frank Horrigan?