40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

OH i thought you meant alen was fucking omni man's wife

[arctic talon]

and it never should have happened in the first place

[heady rivet]

Movie incoming because holy shit

[midnight dragon]

SHUT UPPP

[crystal forum]

he deserves it

[arctic talon]

the US MIC movie slop industry is gona have a hardon for this shit

[gleaming gale]

It's already gonna be out by autumn

[heady rivet]

Literally that Owen Wilson movie

[heady rivet]

About the guy shot down and rescued inj Serbia

[lament shoal]

I read that had “Hadron” at first lmao

Darktide brainrot is real

[gleaming gale]

Speaking of Serbia

[arctic talon]

what

[crystal forum]

young people must be taught that they can be fucking killed

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/what-ash-williams-evil-dead-bruce-campbell-yegagwy-gif-26228285

[midnight dragon]

How do 2 completely different species on completely separate parts of the milky way galaxy manage to evolve almost the exact same way has humans and be biologically compatible enough to breed

[gleaming gale]

I am sure this will not fuel the ongoing protests in any shape whatsoever

[arctic talon]

Kirkman thought it was the funniest shit ever and repeated that joke several times

repeatedly

[crystal forum]

the magic of life

[crystal forum]

kirk

[opaque coyote]

Honestly could be a star trek situation where there's one single progenitor

But overall the answer is

"who fucking cares"

Also

[gleaming gale]

People yearn to fuck aliens

[crystal forum]

anyways did you guys notice that the suit is voiced by levar burton???

[gleaming gale]

Mass Effect approved

[opaque coyote]

But in general

I mean like

[midnight dragon]

Look at me.

[opaque coyote]

If they have a thing that gives them pleasure

That means you can fuck them

[gleaming gale]

Cutthroat dropping truth nukes as usual

[crystal forum]

what is this gsme

[opaque coyote]

Just not like

[crystal forum]

never played it

[opaque coyote]

Impregnate them

Besides we don't know what goes on in there

Could be something completely wacky and different from regular human sex

[crystal forum]

genestealers mentioned

[civic gale]

hello everynya

[crystal forum]

she has tentacles remember

[opaque coyote]

Hello recaf

[midnight dragon]

How could someone wanna fuck something from another planet

Ok maybe im rhe last one who should be talking

[opaque coyote]

We literally want to do that

[civic gale]

i need more abhumans kindness

[crystal forum]

yall nasty

[opaque coyote]

Says you

Smh

[civic gale]

idk whats going on ngl

[opaque coyote]

Sex

[civic gale]

thats heresy even in ork terms

[opaque coyote]

Idk tbh

[brave owl]

I desire to impregonate

[civic gale]

SEX TALK?! IN MY LORE CHAT??!?1?1?1

[opaque coyote]

Imagine Orks shouting

"YASSS QUEEN!"

"SLAAAYYY"

"TOTALLY WORKIN IT GIRL!"

[civic gale]

"SLAYYYYY QUEEN" as they proceed to crush a poor guardsman

[opaque coyote]

I mean honestly

It wouldn't be that weird for Orks

Like

[civic gale]

whats pink in ork belief?

[opaque coyote]

No idea

[brave owl]

it grip

[opaque coyote]

We only know Yellow, blue, red, and green

[civic gale]

red is speed, black is though, purple is sneaky, whats yellow really??

[brave owl]

more dakka

[civic gale]

i see

[opaque coyote]

But honestly.

Given that it's a lighter form of red, and red goes faster.

I think it would be a color that allows them to be more dexterous

[opaque coyote]

Explosive

[brave owl]

more wealth/explosions/excess

[opaque coyote]

Basically imagine an Ork wearing pink fucking backflipping like they're Leon S. Kennedy

[midnight dragon]

So they'd be more faster and probably dexerious

[civic gale]

also is it true because they believe said colors grant such things and their warp powers bend it a bit that space marines also get buffed?

[civic gale]

boom

[civic gale]

perhaps

[gleaming gale]

Actual book fragment btw

[midnight dragon]

Can I get a drag queen + super model inspired ork clan pleaseee

[crystal forum]

SHUT UP IM FINISHING EPISODE 5

THIS IS SO GOATED

[civic gale]

isnt there a genestealer cult thats just "dirt bike rally" ?

jackals or sum

[gleaming gale]

Atalan Jackals, they're a unit, the atalans are the bike brand iirc

[opaque coyote]

Honestly just more dexterous for balancing reasons.

Orks are well known for generally being somewhat messy and brute force

[civic gale]

[opaque coyote]

So imagine an Ork like

Being skilled

Like imagine them dodging and parrying strikes

[midnight dragon]

Being skilled and precise cause thats what they need to do their 💅

[opaque coyote]

Actually aiming properly

That type of shit

[midnight dragon]

I fuck with that idea actually, I'd imagine this clan doenst like getting dirty

Lmfao

So they go range

[opaque coyote]

Yeah basically.

Pink is stereotypically a feminine color, and often times being feminine means generally being more gentle and precise

Which is why I thought being more dexterous would fit

[midnight dragon]

Agreed

[civic gale]

an ork sniper

[opaque coyote]

Assault

[gleaming gale]

Gutter runner

[rancid cove]

Assault mains on space marine 2 once they see a random majoris:

[civic gale]

hmm

maybe

[opaque coyote]

Also because imagine an Ork acting like they're Leon S. Kennedy

Dodging and parrying stuff

[civic gale]

interestinjg

[brave owl]

whurz everyone goin'? Zoggin' it?

[crystal forum]

oh my god what a gross ending

[civic gale]

also is it true the silent king was sanguinius friend or was he just tricking dante?

[crystal forum]

@arctic talon is conquest dead

PLEASE IS HE DEAD

[civic gale]

oi

no spoilers

[brave owl]

cumquest

[civic gale]

think i like this helmet more

[rancid cove]

stinky mk10

mk 8 sweep

Inquisitor asking a random backwater planet civilian circa M41 colorized

[crystal forum]

opinionated non model owner

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[rancid cove]

mk3, 6 and 8 >>>>

[crystal forum]

WHAT

that was it?????

[opaque coyote]

Like Mark said

He wouldn't ever let him breathe ever again

[crystal forum]

i noticed he's still purple at the end so he isnt breathing unconsciously

rip i guess

guy came back just to die immediately

[opaque coyote]

Don't worry there's still Freddy Mercu-

I mean

Thragg

[crystal forum]

general krieg

[opaque coyote]

And also him yeah

[crystal forum]

from the warhammer game

i hope they all die painfully

invincible never fucking misses man

4 seasons and still strong

[opaque coyote]

...

Jesus fucking Christ lmao

[crystal forum]

so gross

[opaque coyote]

Honestly that scene did make me gag the first time

[crystal forum]

i love it

[opaque coyote]

Because he DIDN'T do that in the comics

[rancid cove]

its such a peak scene

[opaque coyote]

That's a show only scene

Holy shit

[opaque coyote]

I think what made it that disgusting is both the noises

[crystal forum]

i love how fucking huge conquest is compared to mark and mark is still stronger

[opaque coyote]

And the grunts of absolute agony Mark has

Like you can tell that Mark is in EXTREME fucking pain

From the VA's grunts alone

Like genuinely it makes it so uncomfortable

[crystal forum]

it's the guy from walking dead too

[opaque coyote]

Steven Yuen knocked it out of the park

[crystal forum]

wait that's half the cast

i dont get it, is mark asian?

[opaque coyote]

Then again he also knocked it out of the park for the first Conquest part

[crystal forum]

his mom clearly is

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

from the dinner scene especially

[opaque coyote]

I mean technically just Viltrumite

Because like

[crystal forum]

but he doesnt have squint eyes like his mom

[opaque coyote]

99% Viltrumite DNA blahblahblah

[crystal forum]

he seems white

[opaque coyote]

But he's still somewhat Asian yeah

Especially in the comics

Oliver definitely doesn't look Asian

[crystal forum]

oliver is getting whiter this season i feel

[opaque coyote]

Like even less than Mark

So it's definitely his mom

[crystal forum]

he's losing purple

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's intentional

As he grows up, the Viltrumite DNA kicks in

He'll soon gain normal skin color

Although personally I think that shit is lame

I hope he'll always have a purple tint at least

[crystal forum]

does he stop being purple in the comics?

[opaque coyote]

Yup

Again lame as shit

[brave owl]

bro said normall

[crystal forum]

kinda lame

[opaque coyote]

Again, I hope he'll have like a purple tint

Always

Similar to GSC

If that makes any sense

They have a pinkish tint

[crystal forum]

He's a fucking genestealer

holy shit

[opaque coyote]

I mean Nolan did literally

Fuck a bug

[brave owl]

mantussy

[crystal forum]

did he like

fuck a bugussy

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

or fertilize the eggs

[opaque coyote]

Both

Probably

Oliver definitely wasn't born from an egg tbh

Or like

Pooped out like a insect egg

At least

You

You get the idea

Since Thraxans get visibly pregnant

[crystal forum]

you think he has weird insect features somewher

like he vomits his stomach to eat

[opaque coyote]

Who knows

[crystal forum]

would be funny

[opaque coyote]

Also Tech Jacket was originally male

[arctic talon]

||yeah he dead as fuck after the latest lol||

[opaque coyote]

She's female in the show

And also younger compared to the comics

[crystal forum]

HELL yeah

[arctic talon]

Tech Jacket also had a total personality shift

lol

I'm indifferent on the changes so far

but for the love of god ||do not let her be Oliver's fucking love interest||

[opaque coyote]

Also Conquest died with a smile

[crystal forum]

why it's cute

[arctic talon]

Also the VA is a zionist

lol

[gleaming gale]

@arctic talon did you read Chem Dog btw?

[opaque coyote]

OOF

[crystal forum]

aw fuck

[opaque coyote]

Probably the most disturbing part

[arctic talon]

Because if they reduce her into just being Olivers girlfriend I will fucking kill someone

loll

[opaque coyote]

Like he said

[arctic talon]

yeah

I do in fact love Tech Jacket

[opaque coyote]

"I take the good with the bad"

[arctic talon]

so I hope that Tech jacket's bits in the shows will be as good

[crystal forum]

i think we can trust the studio. these guys cook big time

[gleaming gale]

Without spoiling it, heard people talk about the ending in an eh way, is it a cliffhanger or just generic shit?

[opaque coyote]

I hope we get an extra episode that basically is an adaptation of the tech jacket comics

[arctic talon]

Cliffhanger lowkey sequal bait

[gleaming gale]

Let's go

[crystal forum]

he gets his own comics??

[arctic talon]

Anyways

makes tech jacket a women
she's way weaker in her first fight scene

what did Kirkman mean by this

[crystal forum]

is he really that big in the comics

[arctic talon]

yes

[opaque coyote]

Yeah he got his own comics

[arctic talon]

he had an entire comic series lol

made by Kirkman

Unfortunately Image said he couldn't use Tech Jacket(male)

for the Invincible show

I have no clue why but yeah

Also not sure what they're gona do with all the "Mark and Tech jacket look similar jokes"

[crystal forum]

weird

[arctic talon]

but I'm sure they'll figure something out

lol

or they'll just remove them

[opaque coyote]

Tbh I actually think it's better that she's weaker.

Idk why but I always thought that Tech Jacket not struggling against fully grown Viltrumites when he took like 3 days canonically to kill Mustache Mark

[crystal forum]

is she a kid or smth

or he

in the comics

[arctic talon]

he's the same age as Mark

or slightly older in the comics

[opaque coyote]

Was a bit like

Far?

[crystal forum]

so this is a big change

[opaque coyote]

Since like again

Struggling with an invincible variant to

Killing full blown viltrumites

A bit

[crystal forum]

was the invincible invasion way longer in the comics

[opaque coyote]

A bit too much of a boost

[arctic talon]

this is a pretty big change

[arctic talon]

No it was shorter lmao

[opaque coyote]

No

[crystal forum]

damn

[opaque coyote]

Way shorter

[arctic talon]

It was like

[opaque coyote]

Also Spawn was there

Yes

[arctic talon]

way way way shorter

[crystal forum]

i feel like it was way too short in the show

[arctic talon]

Spawn fucking died

lol

[opaque coyote]

Spawn

[arctic talon]

and then he came back

[crystal forum]

wait what

[arctic talon]

yeah

Spawn was part of image comics

at the time

[crystal forum]

the black guy superhero?

[opaque coyote]

...superhero is being generous

[arctic talon]

Yes

[crystal forum]

from those shitty movies

[opaque coyote]

But yeah

[crystal forum]

damn

[arctic talon]

lol

But yeah Invincible War in the comics was

go soyjack

its crossover time

[opaque coyote]

Also Spiderman originally had a whole crossover with Invincible

[arctic talon]

and then it was over pretty fast

lol

[glass drum]

Comic version

[arctic talon]

generally the show is like

an improvement in every single way so far

tbh

[opaque coyote]

Of course in the show it was replaced with an obvious bootleg spiderman

[crystal forum]

does he kill a mark

[arctic talon]

I really wish they adapted the Rex stuff

[brave owl]

the idea of Spawn dying is hilarious

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

I fucking loved how they handled Debbie

[glass drum]

The girlfriend from the show vs comic also had a different...ethnicity

[crystal forum]

wait isnt spawn from hell

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[brave owl]

yeah

[crystal forum]

but hell in invincible is different

so what

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

he fucking died lol

ngl the hell Episode feels like a first draft

[crystal forum]

rip bozo

[arctic talon]

that Kirkman never developed

See: william

lol

who acts like comic William

[opaque coyote]

Tbh Damian Dark blood literally was a one time joke in the comics

[arctic talon]

tbf he was also a fucking clown in the comics

[brave owl]

im pretty sure Darkblood never shows up again, yeah lol

[arctic talon]

and the whole bit was he was a shit detective

yeah

[opaque coyote]

With his entire thing basically being that he was the last the ever figure out that Omni Man killed the Guardians

[arctic talon]

he finds out Omniman killed the Guardians

after everyone else

lol

despite being a demon from hell

[crystal forum]

so that whole episode is from the show only?

[arctic talon]

yes

[opaque coyote]

Damian Dark blood in the show is genuinely cool though

[arctic talon]

Kirkman wrote it ages ago

[opaque coyote]

I like him

[crystal forum]

i was wondering why the huge irrelevant lore dump

[arctic talon]

and he never was able to do it in comics

lol

Its likely never going to be followed up on

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it was a thrown away plot he wanted to do

[arctic talon]

unless they adapt out that one arc everyone kind of hates

||the timeskip arc||

lol

[crystal forum]

like the ages seem to not matter at all

[arctic talon]

and replace it with other stuff

it doesn't matter

lol

[opaque coyote]

Given that Damian got a whole cliffhanger ending

It probably is gonna be followed up on

[arctic talon]

the Hell stuff is entierly irrelevant for now

give it like

a few seasons

lol

[brave owl]

devil detective is fun

sad that its just a joke

[crystal forum]

we'll see if the show spins off into its own lore

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

I didn't hate the idea of Mark being in the past

That part was actually good

The issue is that it was a fucking timeskip

[arctic talon]

It was handled like shit

lol

[crystal forum]

satan seems like a chill dude

i liked that episode

[opaque coyote]

Yeah.

The scenario itself was fun though

[crystal forum]

it was funny

[arctic talon]

The show is consistent with the comics lore so far

That we know of

[crystal forum]

i think people didnt like it much

[arctic talon]

Aside from like adaptation changes made

But those don’t count

[opaque coyote]

Debbie in general

The biggest character glow up of the century

[arctic talon]

Tbf invincible’s worldbuilding is like

Kind of fucking ass

lol

[opaque coyote]

Went from basically irrelevant for the first like

[arctic talon]

But I still like it

[opaque coyote]

Two seasons worth

[arctic talon]

It’s consistent from beginning to end in what it wants

And it’s a closed book story

[opaque coyote]

To genuinely one of the best characters

[arctic talon]

Tbh Debbie is great in the show

Also how they’ve changed Oliver is uh

Really making me wonder what they’ll do later

[crystal forum]

no massive multiverse bullshit

[arctic talon]

The kid was like an actual psychopath

In the comics

[opaque coyote]

It certainly exists.

Yeah generally Invincible has like zero detail on how things like the coalition of planets worked

[arctic talon]

We don’t get any of that really in the show aside from him sliming out the mauler twins

lol

[crystal forum]

yeah i kept hearing about how oliver turns out to be awful

and i wish he doesnt

[arctic talon]

Tbh

Doesn’t look like they will

At least so far

He’s way different

[crystal forum]

is the comic really just depressing

[arctic talon]

Oliver and Debbie are both different characters

[arctic talon]

No

It’s honestly pretty similar tonally

[opaque coyote]

It's just that the show improves on

A lot of stuff

[arctic talon]

Oliver is just way more of a piece of shit and lowkey an actual psychopath

[opaque coyote]

It's quite amazing

[arctic talon]

The show just improved on bits people thought were weaker

So far

[crystal forum]

he does get some iffy moments in season 3

[arctic talon]

Also starting off with the guardians of the globe getting fucking killed

[crystal forum]

like when he beats up the twins

btw are the twins dead now

[arctic talon]

Was a banger idea

[arctic talon]

I agree

[opaque coyote]

I feel like the idea was that like

He was a kid

[arctic talon]

||no, they’re not that dumb||

[opaque coyote]

Kids don't exactly have a good frame of

Morality

[crystal forum]

hell yeah

[arctic talon]

Tbf he literally scowls when Debbie hugs him in the comics

Same with mark

And he says he hates earth

[opaque coyote]

Especially a child with super powers

[arctic talon]

And Debbie lol

So like

[brave owl]

getting your god powers probably isn't great on your childs psychology

[arctic talon]

💀

[crystal forum]

i mean they did get tricked by a fetus

WHERES OMNI MAN

[arctic talon]

He actually loves both his moms in the show

While in the comics he just uh

💀

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I feel like they wanted to depict him as how a kid with God powers probably would act.

But at the same time

They took it too far

Which is why show Oliver basically had it reigned in

[arctic talon]

There’s giving a child a god complex

And making a child actively like

[brave owl]

straight atreus'd

[arctic talon]

Go out of their way to be malicious lol

And hurt people around them emotionally

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I feel like that was a case of fucking up with the writing

[crystal forum]

he does get the moment where he pulls down the pants of bullies which i found sweet

[opaque coyote]

Since show Oliver is much better

[crystal forum]

he's not mean

[arctic talon]

Yeah they’ve changed him in the show

[opaque coyote]

In this regard

[arctic talon]

Which is good

I want to see how much more they change

[opaque coyote]

So I definitely got the vibes of

[arctic talon]

It really is a shame they didn’t adapt the Rex backstory

[opaque coyote]

"It was a fuck up that was fixed"

[arctic talon]

Into the show at all

[opaque coyote]

My boy

[arctic talon]

Bro was not joking when he said his childhood sucked

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

Literally sold off to pay for his parents drug money 💀

[opaque coyote]

It made sense why he grew up to be a total asshole

[crystal forum]

maybe he'll get his own episode like eve did

[arctic talon]

Brutally experimented on, had his skeleton fucking ripped out and replaced

[opaque coyote]

But the fact that he was

ONLY

An asshole

Is an accomplishment

[arctic talon]

Eventually escaped and went to hunt down his parents and kill them for what they did

[crystal forum]

all that just to be a mid tier superhero

[arctic talon]

Saw they had more kids and got their lives together

Decides not to and just fucking cries

💀

[opaque coyote]

Like I said

The fact that he was only an asshole

Is a testament to his character

[arctic talon]

Tbh Rex is notable among hero’s on Earth

[opaque coyote]

Cause I think I would've just turned into a supervillain

[arctic talon]

Unfortunately that doesn’t cut it

Bcs a chunk of the villains are way stronger lol

[opaque coyote]

I mean his powers are literally turning anything into an explosive

[arctic talon]

He can absolutely shit on a lot of them though

[crystal forum]

btw who's that green guy with the kid

[arctic talon]

Tbh he also is trying not to kill people

[arctic talon]

Business baby and someone else I forgot the name of

[opaque coyote]

Also a huge meme

[crystal forum]

holy shit is that really his name

[arctic talon]

Rex could absolutely fucking blow people apart

[opaque coyote]

Yup

[arctic talon]

But he chooses not to

[opaque coyote]

And he

Somehow survived the Invincible War

[arctic talon]

See: him vs lizard league after they “kill” Kate

[brave owl]

boss baby lez goooo

[crystal forum]

is the mummy a main plotline thing or just a joke still

[arctic talon]

And also Ray

He’s a joke

He’s original to the show

[crystal forum]

he seems to be coming as his own tho

[arctic talon]

No clue wtf the plan with the mummy dude is

[crystal forum]

this season

[opaque coyote]

I mean he recently just escaped

[arctic talon]

But he’ll prolly show up

[opaque coyote]

So who knows

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Also the whole

Machine head stuff

Is way more developed in the show

lol

[opaque coyote]

Machine Head is fucking amazing

[arctic talon]

And titan and Liu

[crystal forum]

my favorite autotune villain

[arctic talon]

Anyways if Rex wasn’t a hero he’d be way scarier

Because then he wouldn’t have to care about the PR of murdering people

With bombs

[opaque coyote]

"I know where your family livess~"

Absolute bastard

[brave owl]

Mummy guy: "Wow being a woman isn't so bad."

[opaque coyote]

Best character

[arctic talon]

“And that means you work for me until I say you’re fucking done”

[crystal forum]

even villains can learn to be less bigoted

[opaque coyote]

Also shows how smart he is genuinely

He manipulated both Titan and Liu like a fiddle

[brave owl]

Bro just needs to wait for the cramps

[opaque coyote]

That upgrade definitely helped him

[crystal forum]

so does machine head have a backstory

[opaque coyote]

We dunno

[crystal forum]

he mentions not being able to drink alcohol anymore

[arctic talon]

No

He’s just like that

Lol

[opaque coyote]

For all we know, he's just like that

[arctic talon]

We get no backstory on him at all

[crystal forum]

which means he got like a procedure

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

And considering a lot of people in invincible just have

Wacky ass powers

It makes sense tbh

[arctic talon]

I like the implication he did it to himself

[crystal forum]

i wonder if his machine head is what controls the body or if there's a brain in there

[arctic talon]

lol

[crystal forum]

like why isnt he just machine

[arctic talon]

He’s all machine in the head now

[arctic talon]

Prolly has some attachment to his human body still

[brave owl]

original guy should totally be dead right

unless he uploaded his mind to said machine head

[arctic talon]

[opaque coyote]

Again, I genuinely think one of the few good world building bits is how they basically detailed the criminal underworld

[arctic talon]

I think it’s the second personally

[crystal forum]

maybe we'll get a backstory

[opaque coyote]

Also the assassin that was sent to kill Titan's family

[arctic talon]

45 caliber haircut in the funniest fucking way of saying

Shooting someone in the head

lol

[opaque coyote]

Genuinely really cool powers and sick design

Fucking love how his armor is basically also his weapon

Too bad he fucking died

[arctic talon]

He’s from the comics

[crystal forum]

i hope he died way more gruesomely

[arctic talon]

And he’s way bigger

[brave owl]

I mean either way irl its just a copy so even if he did upload his brain that person who uploaded it is dead and whats left is a copy that thinks he's the original lol

[crystal forum]

wanting to kill a kid is

[arctic talon]

And he’s a machine head goon lol

[crystal forum]

pretty evil

[arctic talon]

Well

He was a machine head goon in the comics

Now he’s a Liu goon

And dead

[opaque coyote]

I mean it makes sense

It's a criminal underworld after all.

There will be people who take dirtier jobs

[brave owl]

serial though

go play SOMA

[arctic talon]

Also he’s a psychopath serial killer in the comics

[brave owl]

Uploading your brain is not immortality

[arctic talon]

So like

[opaque coyote]

But yeah dw he definitely died gruesomely

[arctic talon]

Not really a big stretch

For him to take a job killing kids

[crystal forum]

nah that shit was pretty damn evil and he's an idiot for not expecting to be clobbered

[opaque coyote]

But also like I love his powers and how he uses them

[arctic talon]

Tbh he knew he was going to get clobbered lol

[opaque coyote]

Genuinely cool

[arctic talon]

I don’t think he was surprised

[opaque coyote]

Yeah he did almost kill Titan

[arctic talon]

I just think he thought he’d be able to kill them

lol

[opaque coyote]

But only almost

And almost isn't enough

Again Titan

[crystal forum]

i thought he would lift him into the air with all the cards or smth

guy was covered

[arctic talon]

Titan might deadass be too heavy

Or the blades would fall out of him

[brave owl]

Titan must have a thick skull even through the rock powers

[arctic talon]

Prolly

lol

[crystal forum]

titan's power is pretty cool

[opaque coyote]

Honestly despite him being complete and utter scum.

I have a slight wish to see him alive if only because Titan being forced to work with someone who tried to fucking kill his family

And being absolutely deranged

Sounds interesting

[brave owl]

ehh, its pretty basic durability power

[arctic talon]

Tbh he’s a goon

[crystal forum]

i like basic powers

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[brave owl]

he's just The Thing but he can turn it off

[arctic talon]

Titan is a basic power done well

[crystal forum]

like the immortal is my fav superhero

[arctic talon]

Also he looks cool

Rock covered dude in a suit

[opaque coyote]

The Immortal was definitely miswritten in my opinion.

Bro got the Emperor syndrome

AKA

[arctic talon]

Immortal is better written in the show

So far

[crystal forum]

he could be done way better

[opaque coyote]

"I should be way smarter than I actually am. But I am not."

[arctic talon]

Trust me you do not want comic immortal

💀

[crystal forum]

he's not a well written immortal character but tbh those are rarely well done

[arctic talon]

He’s like way shittier written

[opaque coyote]

Comic Immortal was somehow worse

[arctic talon]

This is the improved version

lol

[opaque coyote]

And both versions are

[crystal forum]

like the guy was abraham lincoln. why is he a meathead

[opaque coyote]

Absolute frauds

[arctic talon]

Look maybe he’ll be better later

Comic immortal literally gets grabbed and used as a club

[opaque coyote]

I always felt like he should've been wise instead of a complete hot head

[arctic talon]

He’s basically #1 jobber

[brave owl]

that bullet to the brain removed half his IQ ok

[opaque coyote]

Like it made sense for him to be fucking pissed off and go after Omni-man

But you would think

After hundreds of years of living

[arctic talon]

Bro has literal brain damage

[opaque coyote]

That he would have a better hold on his temper

[crystal forum]

i love how he's literally a fucking caveman

[arctic talon]

Tbh the comics of invincible being ungory and normal until Omniman kills the guardians is really funny

[crystal forum]

and probably speaks multiple versions of english

[arctic talon]

Bcs the tone shift is way later

[crystal forum]

including old english

and some german

but nah he's a meathead

[arctic talon]

While in the show you get blood and it happens in episode 1

[opaque coyote]

Definitely the best move to move it in the beginning

[arctic talon]

I still think they shouldn’t have had the mauler twins bleed at all

[opaque coyote]

Omni Man confronting Mark was like

One or two issues after he killed the guardians

[arctic talon]

Just fully commit to the bit like the comics did

[opaque coyote]

[opaque coyote]

Honestly yeah.

[crystal forum]

are the comics for teenagers

[opaque coyote]

I liked how it felt sort of like an all ages superhero cartoon

Right up until Omni Man fucking GORED them

A huge tonal shift

[arctic talon]

Sold for adults and older teens but they treated it like a for all ages teen thing for the first chunk

[opaque coyote]

Like the world just permanently changed

[crystal forum]

i feel like invincible is a comic series for people tired of comic books

[arctic talon]

Until Omniman fucking gores them

lol

And then we get the funny battle beast bit

[opaque coyote]

Invincible is a love letter to comics but also a slight deconstruction

[arctic talon]

Which happens with bulletproof in the comics

Bulletproof and I forgot who else

Are the ones who get fucking mauled

[opaque coyote]

Battle Beast being there genuinely made me laugh because like

It's the equivalent of Kingpin

[crystal forum]

guy was so bored

[opaque coyote]

Summoning fucking Thanos

To deal with Spiderman

[arctic talon]

Honestly bulletproof picked a really shit name

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

For what his power actually is

Then again

Works ig

[opaque coyote]

Mark got the worse name tbh

[arctic talon]

Tbf

[opaque coyote]

For obvious reasons

[arctic talon]

He is invincible

Not physically

But mentally

[crystal forum]

title drop

[opaque coyote]

Again, the first Conquest fight is basically the same as the comics

Minus "I am so lonely"

That was show exclusive

[crystal forum]

best bit too

iconic

[opaque coyote]

But genuinely most of the dialogue is line for line

Including "stand ready for my arrival worm"

[arctic talon]

But yeah bulletproofs super power is actually absorption of kinetic energy

[crystal forum]

my worm is ready

[arctic talon]

Which powers his like

Actual powers

[crystal forum]

yeah they say it in the show

[arctic talon]

Oh do they?

My bad then

[crystal forum]

yeah

[brave owl]

Battlebeast being unironically one of the strongest characters in the verse is hilarious

[opaque coyote]

And also Omni-Man "Vs" Mark had the dialogue be mostly the same

[brave owl]

Just some random Blood Knight ass alien

[arctic talon]

It’s really funny how in the comics he thinks he’ll get super charged by battle beast bashing him with the maul

But nah

He gets fucking obliterated

lol

[crystal forum]

wait he dies?

[arctic talon]

Turns out his powers have a limit

No

[crystal forum]

oh good

[arctic talon]

He’s there during the battle beast fight

With the guardians of the globe

In the comics

[crystal forum]

oh

[arctic talon]

He thinks he can absorb the hit from battle beast to make himself stronger

he is wrong

lol

[opaque coyote]

But there is a huge difference

The train scene is show exclusive I believe

[crystal forum]

is battle beast just strong

muscle

[arctic talon]

Battle beast is insanely physically strong and durable

[crystal forum]

he cant even fly

[brave owl]

He's like, a cursed hyper strong warrior

supposedly

[arctic talon]

And his weaponry makes him even stronger

[brave owl]

He's like Juggernaut

[arctic talon]

Yeah he’s a magic super soldier

lol

[opaque coyote]

He has a curse that makes him extremely blood thirsty and constantly searching to be killed.

But a lot of his power is

[arctic talon]

He’s cursed

[opaque coyote]

His own

[arctic talon]

“I’m strong”

[crystal forum]

is he a normal dude

under the curse

[arctic talon]

Even if you remove the magic from the equation

Yes

Just extremely fucking buff

[crystal forum]

is he chill

[arctic talon]

His species is just built like thet

[arctic talon]

Ehhhhhhhhh sorta?

He won’t kill random people

[brave owl]

Battlebeast is literally Juggernaut LUL

[arctic talon]

lol

[opaque coyote]

No he's basically looking for the next hit of crack

AKA Viltrumites

[arctic talon]

He only kill’s people who fight

And also yeah he’s looking for his next hit of drugs

[opaque coyote]

Basically similar to Akuma

[crystal forum]

so predator

[arctic talon]

Which is violence always

lol

[opaque coyote]

In-between murdering fighters and destroying islands

[arctic talon]

Yeah but Akuma asks you if you wana fight

[opaque coyote]

He literally just sells fruit

[arctic talon]

Battle beast just fucking kills you

[opaque coyote]

Battle Beast is the same but even more violent

[crystal forum]

he didnt kill mark

when he could

[arctic talon]

Too weak

If he dies he dies

[crystal forum]

what if he knew mark had viltrumite blood

[arctic talon]

But Mark wasn’t a worthy kill

[opaque coyote]

That's because it's the equivalent of him realizing he was smurfing and that it was boring

[crystal forum]

he did tear that viltrumite to fucking pieces

[arctic talon]

He doesn’t kill for trophy hunting, he does it for gratification

[opaque coyote]

Still weak

[arctic talon]

Not strong enough

Yeah

He wants to kill strong people

If people he fight aren’t strong and die

[opaque coyote]

Basically he wants to have the best fucking fight

[arctic talon]

Oh well

[opaque coyote]

And as a bonus

Die

[arctic talon]

But he’s not gona execute someone he’s crippled or beaten mostly to death

[opaque coyote]

He is basically suicidal also

He just wants to die via a fight

[crystal forum]

i heard he has a hot sister or smth

[opaque coyote]

Instead of just killing himself

[arctic talon]

Daughter

💀

[opaque coyote]

He fucked a shark

Furry

[crystal forum]

WHAT

[opaque coyote]

A shark furry

To be specific

Sharksona?

Shark person?

[crystal forum]

shark sonas are a thing yes

[opaque coyote]

Idk wtf to call it

But yeah

[crystal forum]

quite popular in fact

[opaque coyote]

Basically a female Shark Sona

He fucked one

He's also apparently very kinky as he got a lot of scratches and bleeding and bite marks from it

[brave owl]

iconic

[opaque coyote]

Apparently she was the only female that made him bleed

[crystal forum]

as expected

[arctic talon]

His daughter looks just like him tbf

Just woman

[crystal forum]

maybe he treats sex like he does fighting

[arctic talon]

Also less muscular because she hasn’t started taking roids yet

[opaque coyote]

The teeth and eyes are definitely more shark like compared to battle beast tho

[arctic talon]

And by roids I mean fighting and training as much

[crystal forum]

based

[arctic talon]

She was normal until something happens later

[opaque coyote]

Basically Battle Beast is fucking awesome

There's a certain fight

[crystal forum]

i love when women are depicted with huge muscles

it's awesome

[opaque coyote]

That I really wanna see in the show

But it's also quite late into the comics

But it would be fucking awesome to see animated

Although idk how they would adapt it

[crystal forum]

anyways time to rewatch all of invincible starting at episode 1

[arctic talon]

It’s really weird in the comics

So Idfk

Maybe show bits of it at the end of every episode

lol

[crystal forum]

wait doesn mark get rped

[opaque coyote]

Maybe (EXTREME comic spoilers)

||Just have bits of it suddenly interspliced every episode in a season||

[opaque coyote]

Yup

[arctic talon]

Yes, but way later

[opaque coyote]

Comics handled it uh

[crystal forum]

fuck

[opaque coyote]

Poorly

[crystal forum]

damn

[opaque coyote]

In all honesty

I have no idea how they would deal with that

[arctic talon]

Do it but write it better

[opaque coyote]

But they managed to write the Debbie and Omni Man talk

Way better

Than the comics

Which thank god

I was honestly worried

Especially given Debbie's increased characterization

[crystal forum]

dude i actually cried

it was really emotional

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the comic version

Is fucking lame in comparison

Debbie basically forgives Nolan in the comics

Yes

[crystal forum]

fuck

[opaque coyote]

It is exactly as messy as you think it is

[crystal forum]

this is way better

[opaque coyote]

To be fair, Debbie was much less of a character

[crystal forum]

what nolan did is completely unforgivable

[opaque coyote]

And was involved much less

In the comics

[crystal forum]

he's a mass murderer

[opaque coyote]

And this is why I say that Debbie had

[arctic talon]

Art in the comics also was #1 Nolan simp weirdly

lol

[opaque coyote]

THE character writing glowup

Of all time

[crystal forum]

art clearly expected nolan to kill him

it's pretty sad to watch

nobody likes omni man

but again, mass murderer

[opaque coyote]

Bro should've married Nolan instead of Debbie fr

Had to

[crystal forum]

i wonder what will happen to nolan in the show

like nobody likes him

[opaque coyote]

But yeah I was genuinely worried how the show would've handled it

[crystal forum]

and i feel kinda bad for him

[arctic talon]

They’ll prolly keep it the same

[opaque coyote]

So

[arctic talon]

Tbh

Just with more people hating him

[brave owl]

he'll probably get a redemption but like....a long ways away

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, it was just that part that was the most problematic

And the show successfully rewrote that part

[crystal forum]

it will take a huge amount of redemption

[opaque coyote]

The rest is fine tbh

[arctic talon]

Tbh he never gets a “true” redemption in the comics

[brave owl]

redemption is a good thing to believe in

[arctic talon]

No one really does imo

Who has done horrific things

[crystal forum]

everybody deserves a second chance yeah

[arctic talon]

People deserve a second chance

But that doesn’t mean people will give it

Ect. Ect.

[opaque coyote]

To be honest.

Redemption is less about like

Having other people forgive you

[crystal forum]

he does have a ton of work to do

[opaque coyote]

But becoming a better person

Even IF

people don't forgive you

[crystal forum]

and as nolan says himself, it's earned not asked for

[opaque coyote]

Nolan clearly hasn't fully internalized what he has done

[arctic talon]

Tbf

It’s barely anytime in Nolan’s life

[brave owl]

know im never getting my redemption

[arctic talon]

He’s a just around 1000 years old

[opaque coyote]

Although living in what's basically a fascistic empire for most of your life

[arctic talon]

His mass murder on Earth is a drop in the bucket

[opaque coyote]

And having to basically learn

[arctic talon]

Along with all the other genocides he’s done

[opaque coyote]

what empathy is

[crystal forum]

i think it's finally hitting him that he cant just fucking keep going on as if nothing happened

[opaque coyote]

like

[crystal forum]

and people will hate him

[arctic talon]

Tbh the thing is his mortality and like

Sense of time is totally different

[opaque coyote]

Although honestly, lowkey the funniest thing about the Allen and Omni Man episodes is how

[arctic talon]

He doesn’t get it

Allen and Omni Man are great

[opaque coyote]

He says sorry

[crystal forum]

omni man doesnt deserve allen

[opaque coyote]

And the fact that a Viltrumite

APOLOGIZED

[crystal forum]

allen is the best fucking friend ever

[opaque coyote]

Made them instantly believe whatever they were saying

[crystal forum]

legit greatest guy

[opaque coyote]

Because

A viltrumite normally NEVER apologizes

[brave owl]

"Is this revenge for something?"

"What makes you say that?"

[crystal forum]

allen is just always positive

i love him

[opaque coyote]

sexual moans intensifies

[brave owl]

fucking, amazing scene

[arctic talon]

That joke will be run into the ground

Kirkman really liked it in the comics

lol

[crystal forum]

well the ship is gone

rip fake star trek ship

[brave owl]

bro was not captain kirk

[crystal forum]

he was the kirk that got shot

[arctic talon]

💀

[crystal forum]

also he's clearly a picard reference

look at his bald head

[opaque coyote]

Also in general, I like how Nolan's dialogue is so painfully but beautifully written

[crystal forum]

and one looks like worf

[opaque coyote]

He is so believably

AWFUL

at putting his feelings into words

[brave owl]

tbh I mixed up names I meant to ref picard but dumb

[opaque coyote]

That it genuinely sounds so much worse than what he actually means

Like

He deadass just chooses the worst possible dialogue options

"She's more like... a pet to me."

[crystal forum]

and you still expect him to fucking snap and kill everybody. it's so well done

it's such a good representation of an abuser coming to terms with his damage

saying sorry wont cut it

[opaque coyote]

Like it makes sense because Viltrumites don't exactly socialize much

[crystal forum]

too much damage

[opaque coyote]

And anytime a Viltrumite appears

they are very literal

and to the point

So of course him trying to word it anymore than that

[crystal forum]

he's learning to be human

[opaque coyote]

And communicate his feelings

It's just

mwah

perfect

[brave owl]

I can't wait for the one eyed viltrumite to become ||The rizzler||

[opaque coyote]

Also lowkey Nolan was definitely the most Viltrumite... Viltrumite

Because ||literally most of the other viltrumites folded within like months at most||

It's actually lowkey funny as fuck if you think about it

Tbf it makes sense

Living for thousands of years surrounded by nothing but "strength", violence, and being alone

[brave owl]

that human pus- KINDNESS AND AFFECTION got me acting up

[opaque coyote]

Only to experience

actual love

it must be like

A person who was blind for their whole life

finally being able to see the world

All the colors that are possible

[opaque coyote]

Also Sandra Oh fucking destroyed Omni Man with...

||"Am I still your pet?"||

Like holy shit Conquest stabbing Mark in the guts is less cutting compared to that good god

[crystal forum]

god that reminds me of the scene in season one where nolan sees mark playing baseball

just balling my eyes out

[opaque coyote]

Again it's a case of Nolan basically having his words bite his ass

And then he did it again but with Andressa

I was shaking the screen atp

Bro was digging his own grave and setting his tombstone

Tbf he never had a chance to begin with

But good god

[brave owl]

the ring of dead bodies btw is insane

yall literally wanna look up at that in the sky?