40k-lore-chat

[heady rivet]

Capeshit

[rocky gale]

Bit late, it came out in like 2016

[storm jungle]

Peak shit

shut the fuck up

[outer wave]

Have fun!

[vagrant fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/780813526566436904/1488989420404080650/crunching.gif

[storm jungle]

actually sorry i should have said Necroshit*

[storm jungle]

tbh

so i cant ask for more

[sharp pollen]

i showed steel ball run to me dad

[solid horizon]

dilara gon watch superheroslop made with the sole purpose to appeal to her cash

[sharp pollen]

he was like whats up with the lipstick

[outer wave]

How do you top that now

[storm jungle]

cash
Lmao

Also learn to choose good media dummy

(violently)

[solid horizon]

well if youre pirating it it's ok

[gleaming gale]

I think Dilara might hate law enforcement

[vagrant fox]

What the hell is the release schedule for Steel Ball Run, I despise whoever's releasing it

[solid horizon]

but it's still originally intended to be a paid service

[gleaming gale]

Just a hunch

[storm jungle]

I dont like murderers yeah

[solid horizon]

dont we all

[rocky gale]

Vader corridor scene, but it's Punisher and Daredevil beating corrupt cops

[storm jungle]

alas they did it in an apartment

Frank keeps killing them

and Matt gets upset

lmfao

[solid horizon]

would you believe it, I actually scared cops during a riot by imitating car horn sound with a melodica

once

[storm jungle]

Ngl id believe it

[solid horizon]

there was an army car that came after, I played circus music to them

noisemarine activities

so true so real

[storm jungle]

i watched 5 of them point blank light up a guy in a car who was holding a gun for firing his weapon

he fired it because they tased him when he didnt even have it raised yet

[solid horizon]

they got humvees and guns and suddenly they think they're free to do whatever they want (alas it's true they can)

smartest cop moment

[celest dome]

What about that cop that shot at houses cause some acorn fell on his car

[storm jungle]

thats earlier

this happened like 2 weeks ago lol

[rocky gale]

They didn't shoot at houses, they shot at the handcuffed man they had in their own vehicle because an acorn fell on the roof

[gleaming gale]

And the cop was yelling he got hit

[storm jungle]

he literally went

"IM HIT"

[storm jungle]

thank god they didnt kill the suspect

because what the fuck

[vagrant fox]

You see or read about a bunch of dubious behaviour from time to time

I'd ask who's training these clowns except, well, I know it's themselves

On the positive side look at this coolass crocodile figure where they couldn't figure out how to make the legs so they just painted them on

Egypt was so cool

[sharp pollen]

lore chat educational

[heady rivet]

ICE is trained by the IDF btw

[rocky gale]

Unfortunately you see that dumb shit in the UK as well, saw a thing where a man was found near unconscious and slurring his speech outside of his house, so the police came and took him to a holding cell thinking he was drunk and left him to sober up, they tried to ask him some questions and he would have periods where he'd be more clear and he'd beg them to call the hospital because he thought he was having a stroke, they ignored him and put him back in the cell (also didn't check his blood alcohol because they'd already just assumed he was drunk). They then checked on him later and found him dead in the cell. He'd had a stroke.

Then there was an internal police inquest into the incident and surprise surprise, it found the officers didn't do anything wrong

[vagrant fox]

Crazy that the agency, entirely staffed by former cops, tasked to investigate the police never finds the police to be in the wrong

[valid needle]

Why are the Jewish training Americans?

[gleaming gale]

The master got to train his hounds

[rocky gale]

Can't believe we forgot to discuss yesterdays Rumour Engine

[gleaming gale]

John Warhammer figure

[scenic trout]

Me when I get jumpscared by the acorn of stupidity:

[hushed harbor]

I bought the founding a gaunts ghosts omnibus and have been reading it bit by bit and it's so bloody good

[storm jungle]

Thats Abnett for you

guy always cooks (most of the time)

[rocky gale]

It's a classic

[gleaming gale]

Abnett is great if you don't let him write marines

[rocky gale]

Brothers of the Snake was good

and it's Marines

[gleaming gale]

Yeah, but he really shines on basic humans

[storm jungle]

reminder that he literally said he would never write marines because to him they are just emotionless bricks lol

turns out the trick is to just make marines but write them humanly

lmao

[sharp pollen]

omg based based based

[gleaming gale]

B in Abnett comes from based

[vagrant fox]

it comes from bneeds an editor

[sharp pollen]

Basenedd

[gleaming gale]

That's all of Black Library bruv

[vagrant fox]

My point stands

[gleaming gale]

I wonder how long until they rebrand it like the Citadel colours

Warhammer Literature lol

[daring creek]

Clearly a dude who went through an episode. I wonder if he had a history

[vagrant fox]

I hope they just keep it as Black Library, it's iconic™

[heady rivet]

Necromunda mini

[heady rivet]

When the REAL Jews arent even in Israel smh

[gleaming gale]

DAS RITE

[heady rivet]

https://youtu.be/dCwZzk91hF4 The most infectous soundbite of all time

Interrupting himself to throw in "YEAH CRY WHITEBOY" when he realize he's crying so fucked

I know I shouldnt laugh but

What a deeply unserious belief to have

[gleaming gale]

Doesn't help the dude is a literal chudjak

[rancid cove]

Imperial Fists fans are beginning to be very annoying since the new Perty reveal

[gleaming gale]

Always have been

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1488379887914848338/mhrz4b2.gif

[vagrant fox]

That's just what space marine fans in general act like

[celest dome]

Iron Warrior are very much not any better 💀

[rocky gale]

False

[valid needle]

I’m sorry GW loves us more

https://tenor.com/view/vriltania-v1-severus-chud-british-the-patriot-gif-8694882311235498105

[storm jungle]

they have been annoying forever

[vagrant fox]

I like space marines but you know

[gleaming gale]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-chigurh-no-country-for-old-men-coin-flip-call-it-true-gif-8722415756466710272

[vagrant fox]

The greater mass just acts like this

[storm jungle]

IW fans are so chill in comparison

contrary to memes especially

lmao

[valid needle]

Lowkey had the opposite experience

[valid needle]

I’ve notice all the edgy kids go to iron warriors

Or Nightlords

[vagrant fox]

If you go on l*ddit pick your favourite colour they act the same

[valid needle]

You ain’t seen the “chaos are freedom fighters” chaos fans

Don’t get me wrong

[rocky gale]

I haven't seen a flying elephant either

[valid needle]

I love Nightlords and Word Bearers as much as the next Space Marine fan

[gleaming gale]

Literally didn't care the Iron Warriors in Final Deployment got clowned by scions in the end, they were written proper which is what I wanted the most

[vagrant fox]

They were pretty fun in Final Deployment

[storm jungle]

tbh i see loyalist players mention this constantly but those are like a very small percentage

it still doesnt beat the opposite where the imperial/marine fans are just 💀

[vagrant fox]

I've seen them over years since I got into 40k a few times but honestly not that often

[valid needle]

Woah woah woah who says I’m loyalist

[rocky gale]

Mentioned more by Loyalist players than it's ever actually been encountered.

[valid needle]

Do you know who that is in my pfp

[vagrant fox]

some dangle

[gleaming gale]

Glup Shitto

[valid needle]

The Goat

Merir Astelan

[rocky gale]

No one knows

[valid needle]

Professional hater

[sharp pollen]

guys i just give you this pic

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1487879335380516974/IMG_0831.jpg?ex=69ceb39d&is=69cd621d&hm=679f07c8282e573643afacca1db84d7f50f5a02b3aebe0bbc03f2d7a0a6265c8&

[vagrant fox]

I think I've seen more World Eater types who're all we're freedom fighters than anything else since 30k sloppesy got written

[rocky gale]

I know I am, but what are you

[hallow saddle]

Merir Epstein, thats a weird name

[valid needle]

Expert hater

[valid needle]

Merir is no peadophile child rapist

Merir Is a king among fallen

[gleaming gale]

Freedom fighter
Nails give them no free thought

Curious

[vagrant fox]

very

[storm jungle]

W.E fans are very braindead

[vagrant fox]

Abandon all reason know only war not freedom fight for some braindead nailed moran

[gleaming gale]

Shadowboxing durr, Turn 1 charge

[storm jungle]

people who say Kharn was not a bad person prob dont even know hes the moron who approved and literally signed up for the Nails to be implemented across the legion

[vagrant fox]

But Angron, so sad, so tragic

[storm jungle]

Lmao god

i have a friend who i got into a REALLY heated argument with over that

[gleaming gale]

I just like Kharn because he beat the shit out of Erebus

[storm jungle]

i just let it go because i didnt wanna offput him but christ

[vagrant fox]

Yeah there's some tragedy but uh, he's still an asshole

[storm jungle]

^

[opaque coyote]

HELLO FELLOW INITIATES.

[storm jungle]

Angron didnt deserve anything that happened to him

[gleaming gale]

Brother Racistus!

[storm jungle]

but then the moment he got any power with his legion

[opaque coyote]

I FUCKING HATE XENOS.

[storm jungle]

he just went on a genocide spree

[opaque coyote]

AND GAY PEO-

[storm jungle]

he absolutely deserve everything that happened to him lmao

[vagrant fox]

He could've just fucked off and gone to die in the first place insted of helping achieve the Big Es all time genocide high score

[storm jungle]

^

[storm jungle]

THATS ANOTHER THING BTW

HE DOES DO THAT

but Kharn comes back

[rancid cove]

Imperial Fists fans trying to win an argument vs the humble IW answer:

[storm jungle]

and somehow convinces him to get out of the cave

like what

[vagrant fox]

Yeah after a while he does that, after a genocide or a few

[opaque coyote]

"Now then son, I know you are suffering a fate worse than death. But please help me murder all the Xenos. I need to climb the leaderboards."

[rancid cove]

I want to ask about your name change
What happened since I last opened this app

[storm jungle]

April 1st

[valid needle]

I love being a NL/DA/Fallen Angels fan because there’s nothing anyone can use against me

[heady rivet]

Indoctrinated

[opaque coyote]

You see

I have joined the Black Templars

[storm jungle]

the gay jokes especially because those aged like cheese with age lol

[rancid cove]

Truly sad the racist chuds got Laat

[vagrant fox]

The World Eaters are my favourite legion but I'm in the pits fighting ten million fools a day

[gleaming gale]

Jimmy could have uh... also just send some blokes to help Angron down on Nuceria and he'd alleviate like 50% of the issues

[rancid cove]

Smh smh

[opaque coyote]

They had cookies

[storm jungle]

Angron would still rebel and be a warlord

[heady rivet]

Especially with how the Night lords did LITERALLY nothing wrong ever and were always morally good

[opaque coyote]

I couldn't resist

[valid needle]

Stop right there.

[rancid cove]

I am a space marine fan overall
Except for Thousand Sons and Iron Hands
They can fuck off

[valid needle]

We did that shit

And we liked it

[heady rivet]

Yeah I agree

[storm jungle]

I love how while the traitor legions were busy on Terra the Dark Angels just went around nuking chaos primarch homeworlds

TF2 tier shit

[opaque coyote]

We are Emperor Epstein

We carry the flame

We fight for the Palace

We'll honor his name

[heady rivet]

Genuinely hilarious

[storm jungle]

best part of the Siege lore they added i think

the literally go to the surface and deploy tectonic nukes or orbital bombardment them

[rancid cove]

"This is the eight legion broadcasting from low orbit. Cease lying. We did all of it and we enjoyed every second of it."

[heady rivet]

Those children had bad vibes

[vagrant fox]

The Dankels are a funny bunch

[heady rivet]

And every Nostroman is just inherently evil

[valid needle]

To be fair there was 10 thousand and 1 dark angels fighting on Terra at the time so it makes sense for the rest to just nuke nearly every traitor homeworld out of spite.

[rancid cove]

Evil and proud

[opaque coyote]

The equivalent of a roamer trolldier doing Market Garden picks on the back line

[valid needle]

FOR REAL

I will flay again

[sharp pollen]

im kinda lost in 40k lore and epstein lore what even is going on here...

[storm jungle]

long story

[heady rivet]

And them having no homeworld to fall back to actually does help with the mopping up

[storm jungle]

someone educate tavi

[vagrant fox]

no

[rancid cove]

Yeah so what we flayed people? We found it fun asf

[sharp pollen]

even tf2 here

[vagrant fox]

I'm reading angron excerpts to cement my dislike of primarchs

[gleaming gale]

Have faith, Word Bearer, we all bleed today

[heady rivet]

Okay so there's this planet called Necromunda, Tavi

[mossy peak]

basically epstein is canonically the emperor

[opaque coyote]

BROTHER. JOIN US IN FIGHTING FOR THE ISLAND!

[valid needle]

Whislt Corswain was leading his half of the legion on Terra the lion believed if the traitors were going to take Terra he would take all their homeworlds.

So everyone loses

[sharp pollen]

im also listening to a tekken podcast

[opaque coyote]

Actually being smart and using tactics?

In my Slophammer 30k?

[rancid cove]

All of that just for the majority to go inside the Eye of Terra

[valid needle]

They only did because of it

[gleaming gale]

Lion had a Caliban moment

[opaque coyote]

Tbf they went to the Eye of Terror because all of their homeworlds were fucking decimated

Basically their houses were destroyed

[valid needle]

They would have retreated to their fortified homes but couldn’t and had to flee

[opaque coyote]

So they had to live in the fucking Hood

Because their new York studio apartments got destroyed by Lion and the Gang

[gleaming gale]

They got banished to Detroit

[rancid cove]

Yeah he kinda make them live in a H.Q. where they can plan they shit

[heady rivet]

Some of those homeworlds were already crack dens

[opaque coyote]

Abaddon can barely organize them for more than like 5 minutes

That's why he had so many black crusades

[rancid cove]

Loyalist cope

[opaque coyote]

Cause he knew that most of his forces literally aren't exactly of sound mind

Tbf it is smart

And I'm not saying that Abaddon is a fraud. He isn't.

[valid needle]

Realistically better for the loyalists than having them on their heavily fortified homes where marines are strongest

[opaque coyote]

But look at something like the Emperor's Children

And try to imagine them actually following a plan

And strategy

[valid needle]

Home planet advantage is a real thing it’s also how the Caliban DA was able to go blow for blow with Lions DA.

[opaque coyote]

The fact that he organizes them consistently shows how good he is at this

Ironically enough

[valid needle]

Despite Lions DA being all veterans and Luther’s DA only have a few thousand Terran veterans.

[opaque coyote]

He is smart. He knows he isn't gonna do one gigantic crusade that will solve everything

Unlike a

Certain chair bound mf

[valid needle]

The rest all new recruits and Calibanite Jaegers

Even Lions Calibanite Jaegers should have outfought Luther’s but again home planet advantage

[opaque coyote]

He mainly goes after critical strategic areas

That are at minimum hard to replace but usually impossible

Basically what I am saying is that

Abaddon is smart

At least in this instance.

He is at least smart enough to order around several factions who, due to their gods, innately hate each other

[gleaming gale]

Not smart enough to stop coping he isn't a plaything for the 4

[heady rivet]

@rancid cove Now that I'm home this is like the first modern-Munda example I can think of for any mention of Vamps. And they spell it with an I

[opaque coyote]

Tbf he knows.

He just doesn't care. He just wants the Imperium to implode

He is a Hater

Basically

And he will stop at nothing to eventually get that view of Terra fucking exploding

While laughing his ass off

He doesn't care about being a pawn.

He just wants the Imperium to burn and for everyone to suffer

Unlike Archaon, who is basically coping 24/7

Tbf Abaddon also has the cope that he would be allowed to destroy the Imperium

But it's a smaller cope

[arctic talon]

No abbadon is genuinely on cope

lol

[opaque coyote]

That he isn't a puppet?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

lol

[opaque coyote]

Dang I thought he knew that much at least

Welp

Worse than Archaon in that front then

At least Archaon blew up the universe

[heady rivet]

[opaque coyote]

Also

I had an idea of the Chaos Gods basically creating a mini playground planet

Because why TF not

Basically it was a Hive World that was conquered by Chaos

But it's

A) Split into 4

B) Despite being warpy as shit, it's still made out of tangible matter

C) Every flavor of faction has some type of presence on it

Basically there's a constant Warp Whirlpool that makes every ship that isn't Necron

Crash on it

Including Eldar, the whirlpool can fuck up even the webway

It also has a Necron tomb in it

And Tyranid hive ships have also crashlanded

[heady rivet]

Average LGS battles lore

[opaque coyote]

And Orks as well for good measure

The planet also constantly regenerates.

So any biomass damage the Tyranids or Orks do

Aren't permanent

[rose thorn]

No fucking way @storm jungle https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2039372222649995275?s=46

Sonic the Hedgehog (@sonic_hedgehog)

Get ready for the series finale of Sonic.

▶ Play video

X · Apr 1, 2026, 4:00 PM

It’s a…. It’s a….

It’s a sopranos reference.

[opaque coyote]

And it constantly sucks in ships from every faction to constantly refuel the battleground

[opaque coyote]

Man when Sonic was implied to got shot by Shadow

I was shocked

I just didn't expect them to literally cut to shadow...

...God I miss the Archie Comics

Especially preboot.

It was a fucking mess with writing and artwork constantly bouncing between quality.

But I fucking loved it.

One issue can have the peakest shit written

And another could have the worst plot you have ever seen

Love the IDW comics as well but Sega's mandates kinda prevent any permanent consequences which is lame as fuck

[storm jungle]

Our agents are everywhere

[opaque coyote]

AMOGUS

Also I just changed my Bio

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/Meeperthe1/status/2039086494053245251?s=20

!The Meepers! (@Meeperthe1)

How horus could have won.
︀︀>Don’t bomb the loyalits on istvaan, focus on their ships.
︀︀>demand fulgrim not be a dumbass
︀︀>don’t siege terra, take it immediately.
︀︀>zerg rush ultramar to cut off reinforcements
︀︀>ally with the eldar against the imperials
︀︀>ignore africa

Quoting Jackson (@Jackson61689330)
︀
Sons of Horus fans, here’s how we can still win👁️:
︀︀-Kinor Argonis returns
︀︀-he unites every last remaining Sons of Horus warband
︀︀-the kill teams beneath the Imperial Palace get recovered
︀︀-Abaddon slips on an ice cube and hits his head and in his amnesia forgets that he hates Horus

**💬 4 🔁 47 ❤️ 689 👁️ 17.5K **

FxTwitter · Mar 31, 2026, 9:04 PM

[flat nimbus]

“don’t siege [X], take it immediately” is such a perfect phrase

[sharp pollen]

let him cook

art of war

[arctic talon]

The fact it was said unironically is what kills me

[rancid cove]

Huh
Lexicanum spells it with Y

[opaque coyote]

I think the original was don't siege Leningrad

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[vagrant fox]

yea

How old is the original anyways

[opaque coyote]

August 2020 apparently

Actual post

[vagrant fox]

Could've sworn I've seen it on 4ch before that but I guess

[arctic talon]

Prolly

[opaque coyote]

Might have been

[arctic talon]

Don’t terror bomb Britain, with what fucking guidance systems lol

[vagrant fox]

Just don't 4head

[nocturne crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaJklsJonD4

[opaque coyote]

I think it's referencing how Hitler got frustrated and decided to bomb major cities

[nocturne crest]

Launch in 10 minutes

[opaque coyote]

But he got frustrated because he failed to destroy the RAF

[outer wave]

Zurge rush Stalingrad

Didn't they technically do that and still lost?

[rancid cove]

I like how they kept "ignore africa" on it

[outer wave]

Also Zurge and not zurg

[arctic talon]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/6gu9pPAISEvLJMqewzrWYqH-ff8AbeqvO8pNMjmf8CM/%3Fsource%3Dfallback/https/v.redd.it/pojaqikqsua71/DASH_480.mp4

[opaque coyote]

That's why they had to siege in the first place

[opaque coyote]

Yeah 90% of their planes were struggling

And 10% were "wonder weapons" that were way too experimental to be useful

And also too small to be useful

[arctic talon]

Brother it was mostly dead after the Battle of Britain

[crystal forum]

some people genuinely think like that

the copypasta isn't even from somebody being ironic

[opaque coyote]

They did make the first Jet. But the problem is that a single like

Hole

Due to the acidic fuel used

Would basically cause the pilot to painfully turn into sludge

[arctic talon]

Me when I have to melt my pilot alive because I am bored

[vagrant fox]

If Göring had any courage he would have finished and implemented the Zeppelin Rammer for big boy points

[vagrant fox]

Just ram the planes 4head

[rancid cove]

And it's always the same archetype pf people

[opaque coyote]

It was however extremely fast.

So fast in fact. That they literally couldn't shoot anybody because it's not like they had targeting systems.

[crystal forum]

the me 162 was a pretty good idea conceptually

it was just far too little and far too late

the world shifted to jet powered interceptors after the war so it wasn't a bad path to take

[opaque coyote]

Basically all of Germany's wonder weapons could be summarized as "far too little and far too late".

[jade holly]

So how far do we actually expect the Infinite Citadel to go in lore before it gets stopped?

[arctic talon]

Some were also just fucking stupid

[opaque coyote]

"Make big tank yes."

[arctic talon]

mause and Ratte even being ideas floating around

lol

[vagrant fox]

Just one more wunderwaffe and it'll turn the tide of the war please

[arctic talon]

When the tiger was already suffering lol

[crystal forum]

i personally believe the ratte is bullshit made after the war because i could never find a firsthand source

[arctic talon]

Yeah let’s go bigger

Fatter

[opaque coyote]

It's basically the equivalent of like

Having an idea at 2 am and thinking that it's the best fucking thing ever. Writing it down

Only to wake up the next day and be like

"What the fuck is this?"

Except they actually did some of them

[arctic talon]

It was just some German engineers batshit insane idea they tossed out near instantly

It was never actually considered

lol

[flat nimbus]

but CoD zombies taught me wünderwaffe are good!

[arctic talon]

The Nazi space solar
death laser though

That one was considered

[crystal forum]

still i can't ever find who actually drew the one concept drawing that exists of it

[vagrant fox]

It might just have been some shit Fritz Hahn invented for cred points who knows with these things

[opaque coyote]

"We got a weapon that can down an allied bomber in seconds."

"Cool, we got like 3000 of them."

[crystal forum]

the maus meanwhile was actually being prototyped and it was a terrible idea lol

[lament shoal]

Do palanite haunts carry sidearms with them?

[opaque coyote]

It's also worth noting that

The Stg-44 actually was made in the Wonder Weapon program

Probably one of the few things that actually were useful

[opaque coyote]

Also I remember what it was called now.

The Komet

[vagrant fox]

Some useful things came out of it

[opaque coyote]

ME 163

[vagrant fox]

The AR 234 flew over D-Day or somesuch

[opaque coyote]

Fun fact btw

The Pilots also wore Absestos suits

[nocturne crest]

Have you seen the curved barrel version?

[arctic talon]

Would have been really funny for an allied pilot

[arctic talon]

If you want

[opaque coyote]

Mainly because it was the best chance of living through uhh

[opaque coyote]

Basically being digested by your own plane fuel

[opaque coyote]

It looks stupid as hell but it wasn't a bad idea...

On paper

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-gun-shot-gif-14869640

[opaque coyote]

It also went at a blistering speed of 1130 km/h

It's speed record wouldn't be broken until late 1947

It was also incredibly fast even unpowered due to how good it was at gliding

With pilots commenting on how good it felt piloting

With zero draft or anything

...

The problem was that it was too good.

With a small gust of wind forcing you upwards

Also due to said speed, again, you aren't gonna shoot anything slow moving

[crystal forum]

the modern version of this is probably something like the felin system that france tried out

instead of curving the barrel you attach a camera to it

[opaque coyote]

The pilot cockpit was uh...

Also unpressurized

So the pilots could only handle it's conditions for a few minutes

Before going unconscious

Even with training

Due to them having no pressure suits or anything

Also only one allied pilot ever flew the Komet with it's rocket engine fully engaged

A Scotsman, Captain Eric Brown

Who flew 487 types of aircraft

More than anyone else in history

Despite being fully aware of the danger

[mossy peak]

when’s the countdown starting back up

[opaque coyote]

The motherfucker decided to do an unauthorized flight to try out the rocket engine shortly after the war

With everyone else protesting against this due to the risk.

When he landed safely, he and his mates went out for drinks

His only comment in the flight log was one word

"Fantastic!"

[languid meadow]

9 mins till peak

[opaque coyote]

At it's time, it was basically considered a forbidden fruit aircraft.

Technology and flying power beyond any existing aircraft

But can easily cause a horrific death

Because again.

It uses fucking acid as fuel

And a bunch of people also died horribly while testing it

I don't think anybody would want to fly it after seeing their buddy look like they were part of the expedition to find the Lost Ark

It also looked like this

Also

I forgot to mention that due to the fuel being highly reactive

And highly flammable

The pilots would make sure to expend all of it's fuel

Before landing

Because a rough landing while it still had fuel would basically turn it into an impromptu kamikaze

Whatever fucking engineer made up this

Is definitely proof that Insanity and Genius

Are on the same coin

[jade holly]

Genius is simply insanity that pays off

like how the Romans solved naval warfare by turning it into land warfare

[nocturne crest]

1 minute to launch!

[jade holly]

Launch what?

[nocturne crest]

NASA rocket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut729170L0M

[vagrant fox]

there it goes

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

A dream I wish

One day

Is to be able to go to the moon casually

Without needing like extreme training

At best it'll probably happen when I'm like 90

[languid meadow]

god that's beautiful

[jade holly]

Wait wtf when did you change your name Laati

[opaque coyote]

Today

I also changed my bio

Look at my profile

[quiet orchid]

april fools ragebait!!

[solid horizon]

oh hi grimm, I sold all my necrons

im not playing them anymore

[jade holly]

Good riddance

Now I can be the one true Necron player

[solid horizon]

I am now devoted to serving the emperor and getting rid of the heretics

[jade holly]

Machine Aspirant sounds too Admechy of a name

I need a name that fits along the lines of Necrons, IW, Votann and Admech

[solid horizon]

sorry squat I dont help xenos or heretics

[quiet orchid]

Imperial Scum

[solid horizon]

Praise the emperor

he who guides us all from his magnificent golden throne

[opaque coyote]

I got a question.

If a bolt pistol bullet is defective

[jade holly]

Corpse worshipper

[opaque coyote]

And it doesn't explode

[opaque coyote]

If someone gets nicked enough to get knocked out

How much damage would it realistically be?

[solid horizon]

bolt bullets explode ?

I thought they were large inefficient bullets

[opaque coyote]

Cause I was thinking of a commissar shooting a guardsman.

But instead of the usual. It just... knocks them out

[opaque coyote]

They're closer to mini missiles

Still inefficient big bullets but they also fucking explode

[solid horizon]

bro that's still a cannon shell

[opaque coyote]

Basically

They go into the body

And then

BOOM

Now half your body is gone

[solid horizon]

a bolter is the equivalent of those round ball 50 cal ammo type if it doesnt explode

[opaque coyote]

It's why every depiction of bolters have their upper half basically disappears

[opaque coyote]

Yeah exactly.

I was kinda wondering

[solid horizon]

yeah no there is no way someone survives that

[opaque coyote]

If I need to switch the Commissar into using a lasgun

[solid horizon]

I mean look at ork

[opaque coyote]

*las pistol

[solid horizon]

they use larger bullets that don't explode

[opaque coyote]

Sometimes

Sometimes they di

Because Orks

[solid horizon]

yellow bullet

[opaque coyote]

Basically Orks sometimes steal bolters

And uh

Either reverse engineer them to add to their shootas

[solid horizon]

orks have the best looking guns imo

[opaque coyote]

Or just attach them

[opaque coyote]

I still love the bolter

I have no idea why

It's basic for sure

But it's just

The perfect representation of the Imperium

Big

Loud

Scary

Impractical

But still dangerous beyond belief

Boxy and rough

[solid horizon]

(in lore)

on tabletop it's uhh

[opaque coyote]

Darktide represents it well

[solid horizon]

questionable in terms of efficiency

[opaque coyote]

Seriously using a bolter is fucking great

In terms of feel

[solid horizon]

CSM have the worst boltguns

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the Bolter (in lore) was definitely made because such a thing was necessary

Although you could argue that there's more efficient methods but shut up ner-

[solid horizon]

I love gambling with lascannons, eradication rays and conversion beamers

[opaque coyote]

I always imagined the Lasguns as the equivalent of like

A hunting rifle. What civilians use basically.

Like during the colonial period, Lasguns were mainly used for hunting and self defense

While the Bolters were used for

More.

[solid horizon]

lasguns are basically carbines

[timid pasture]

How dangerous Could Daemon Primarch Perturabo be?

[opaque coyote]

Also yeah in tabletop, CSMs are kinda uh

...

Apparently the lore reason is cause like

Living in the Eye of Terror doesn't do well for things like

Proper maintenance and supplies

Which is why they also use some outdated weaponry

Which I think is kinda neat

They make up for it with Chaos Juice

[solid horizon]

playing CSM on tabletop feels like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbvWn1EY6g

[opaque coyote]

So if you know how dangerous daemon princes are

Approximately double that

And you got a Daemon primarch

[opaque coyote]

Overall

Clearly the solution is to shove Daemons inside of guns

Honestly I wish Chaos SMs had a more unique arsenal

[solid horizon]

we have uh

accursed weapons

sound guns

[opaque coyote]

Like I like them using outdated weapons

[solid horizon]

pox stuff

[opaque coyote]

But in general besides some exceptions like Sound Guns

They still mainly use the bolter

Which like

I get it

[solid horizon]

we do have a wide range of (mostly bad) autocannons

[opaque coyote]

But also like

[solid horizon]

butcher, reaper and all

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

My most controversial take

Is that they should mainly use autocannons

Because it makes sense that they wouldn't have a consistent supply of bolter ammo

So they have to make do with other weaponry

Like any CSM Warband that isn't Black Legion is basically

"My mom is kinda homeless"

[solid horizon]

CSM also have a lot of heavy bolters tho

[opaque coyote]

True

Tbh I just wish they had access to assault cannons at least

But instead they got dollar store auto cannons

Which is funny

But still

[solid horizon]

dollar store autocannons and gambling lascannons

[opaque coyote]

I do like the idea

Tbh

[solid horizon]

chaos autocannons look like uh

[opaque coyote]

Again, it represents them basically being like

[solid horizon]

WW2 era anti aircraft stuff

[opaque coyote]

"My mom is kinda homeless"

"I live with my warband I wanna help em out"

"Tzeentch why you trying not the laugh bruh that's disrespectful as shi-"

[solid horizon]

CSM are arguably less disciplined than their loyalist counterpart and tend to use melee a lot more

[opaque coyote]

In general Chaos seems to lack the

Ranged department

Which is kinda lame

[solid horizon]

outside of havocs and some loyalist stolen stuff we have basically no anti tank

[opaque coyote]

Like more weird ass daemonic guns would be awesome.

Stuff like sound guns are cool

[solid horizon]

(I dont count knights, titans and former imperium vehicles to be chaos made)

[nocturne crest]

I think this is the closest sized gun to a bolter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkW1Fsaxj-Y

[opaque coyote]

CSMs when they see a tank:

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

(They only have a shitty autocannon)

[solid horizon]

this is why IG always wins

seriously our vehicles that are closest to anti tank are anti elite at best

[valid needle]

Should have made a deal with the Dark Mechanicum

[solid horizon]

im thinking of the forgefiend and its ectoplasma cannons

[opaque coyote]

I have thought of like

More Chaosy type weapons.

I imagined for Khorne like

A launcher that shoots living spikes that flood the tank with blood

[solid horizon]

dark mechanicum lacks modern gear as well

[opaque coyote]

So the guardsmen have to get out otherwise the Tank will flood

And the blood would be boiling as well

So some would probably be burning alive

[valid needle]

I mean modern yes but they still hold a shit ton of OP older tech

[solid horizon]

most daemon engines were patented before HH

[valid needle]

And sometimes newer isn’t always better

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but generally any warband that doesn't have a deal with Vashtorr or the Dark Mechanicum can be summarized as:

"My warband is kinda homeless..."

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[opaque coyote]

"I live in the Eye, I wanna help em out."

[solid horizon]

to buy stuff from the mechanicum you have to pay with a lot of souls and slaves

which isn't always an easy job

so either you get a proppa warpsmith and magi or you grind

[opaque coyote]

At least the Tsons have magic

To uh do the anti-tank?

Unsure about tabletop

[solid horizon]

idk to me tsons are a myth

i've never heard of them on tabletop or seen them

[rancid cove]

Good thing mine has deals even with Fabius Bile

[opaque coyote]

"I need your cocks for my New men"

[rancid cove]

[solid horizon]

in my warband, most if not practically all the guns are seized/reused old guns hence why they have a different color from their bearer

crude illegal skitarii may be dressed in black and have hazard stripes, but his rifle his green because the actual skitarii who used to be there were green

[quiet orchid]

''And also your balls for help your brothers''

[opaque coyote]

I checked

Yeah the Tsons basically only have two options for anti-tank

Ahriman can apparently buff the rubrics to become anti-everythint

And also Magnus

[solid horizon]

non CSM chaos factions are usually very good

[opaque coyote]

CSMs so lacking in options

[solid horizon]

regular CSM is

uh

uhhhh

[opaque coyote]

Even the wizards need to call their primarch

[solid horizon]

well we don't have access to the others'stuff

[opaque coyote]

Ahriman when he sees a IG tank battalion (it is tabletop strength):

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-war-i-need-you-cecil-cecil-invincible-gif-17654934589302344134

"MAGNUS! I NEED YOU, MAGNUS!!"

[solid horizon]

this reminds me I need to make the 1000 yard stare edit for the single skitarii who saw his whole squad obliterated by the baneblade standing barely 20 inches away from him

(he died turn 3)

IG when you dont have proper anti tank is absolutely terrifying (even more so when your ally is an eldar)

[timid pasture]

How dangerous Is a Demon prince vs a Daemon Primarch?

[jade holly]

Meanwhile IW just get a response that reads

“Fuck off”

Well, I guess not anymore actually

[timid pasture]

he went full borg

[solid horizon]

shittily made

[valid needle]

Not very

Daemon Primarchs are above non primarch princes

[daring creek]

I can hardly make this out

are these SoBs vs iron warriors

[vagrant fox]

admech vs iron warriors

[daring creek]

ah

[rancid cove]

Missus has bad eyesight

[quiet orchid]

lol

[rancid cove]

he looks bigger than the other daemon primarch artworks

ffs he looks bigger than magnus or angron

[quiet orchid]

he a warrior... He need to be big

[daring creek]

quiet

[rancid cove]

no

you dingus

[daring creek]

be nice

[rancid cove]

i dont wanna

[daring creek]

can I have a hug

[rancid cove]

[daring creek]

thnx

[rancid cove]

DUDE HE LOOKS BIGGER THAN ALL OF THEM

[timid pasture]

Does the Imperium fight Daemon Princes often?

[rancid cove]

yeah they do their shenanigans quite often

Mortarion has done some shit against Ultramar

angron shows up every now and then

Magnus showed up on Fenris and shit

rumors of Lorgar leading some raids iirc

[timid pasture]

Shiiiit

The Imperium prolly struggles against them right?

[rancid cove]

oh yeah big time theyre a force to be feared even when they "lose"

since they can just come back and try it again

plus losses are immense

iirc there was once Angron came back almost 200-300~ grey knights showed up i think? and then like less than 50 came back or something

[quiet orchid]

he look a planet close to them

[timid pasture]

Damn Holy shit

[sacred bluff]

lorgar is too busy hiding from corvus

[rancid cove]

He has been rumoured to lead raids on there

[arctic talon]

Daemon princes yeah all the fucking time, they're easier to summon then greater daemons generally due to having been formerly mortal

[jade holly]

Pretty sure Magnus is still taller

[opaque coyote]

"I've got the powers of the Gods... but they forgot to give me a fucking missile launcher."

Wouldn't IW have zero trouble with Anti-tank

Don't they have stuff like

The Obliterator virus

Which btw is still one of the sickest things

And honestly I now have an idea for like

It affecting someone differently depending on the God they worship

Like I can imagine if you got an Obliterator virus while you worshipped Khorne

You would have more blades and melee weaponry growing from your body

[daring creek]

why do people keep calling skylar white a bitch for being upset about walt being a drug dealer

[opaque coyote]

You'd still get ranged weapons de

[daring creek]

and actively endangering their family

[opaque coyote]

But now your hand also has like two swords

[opaque coyote]

Because Heisenberg is cool!!!

(ignore the fact that BB paints him otherwise)

[daring creek]

A man came in their home and poured gasoline everywhere

[opaque coyote]

I think the only bad thing Skylar did was like

Cheat on Walt?

That's about it

[neon jacinth]

Darktide is a feel good game for me

[daring creek]

smoke cigarettes while being pregnant

walt was really becoming a monster

[opaque coyote]

Also a bitch move yeah

[daring creek]

so lax, and layed back about like

too many things

[arctic talon]

Cheat on walt and smoking while pregnant are like the only bad things she did

aside from helping do like

money laundering

lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

I guess it's

Half the case of

"These crimes are fictional but my annoyance is real"

And half lack of media literacy

I know some fans who are fully aware that Skylar White didn't really do anything wrong

They just don't like her

[neon jacinth]

Today I learned Darktide has a walk button

[opaque coyote]

Only useful against sneaking past daemonhosts

But even then just like

Don't shoot them

[neon jacinth]

You mean roleplay

[opaque coyote]

Cause Daemonhosts generally don't give anything extra

It's kinda like

The witch from L4D2

[neon jacinth]

Yes yes

[opaque coyote]

Including Crowning

You can insta kill a daemonhost

[neon jacinth]

I walk for the RP dawg

[opaque coyote]

Crouch spam is better

Clearly

Teabag to assert dominance

[neon jacinth]

Lol

[timid pasture]

Her hate Is deserved after the birthday scene..

[opaque coyote]

Like I said

The annoyance is real

But she technically never did many things wrong

As in morally wrong

[timid pasture]

ye ik that was a joke

[opaque coyote]

Yeah dw

[timid pasture]

Walter white defenders would rather side with a murderer and drug dealing maniac than a woman

[opaque coyote]

It's just as an example

Because like

40k characters are all war criminals at a minimum

[timid pasture]

Ohh

yeah

theres 0 good guys in Warhammer

[opaque coyote]

But we like them over an annoying character

Y'know?

It's like that type of situation

At least for some

Some people just have zero media literacy

[timid pasture]

Ehhh

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

Yeah how we interact with media in general is

Interesting

[daring creek]

what since when

Killing fascists is good

so the tyranids are clearly the goodest of guys

https://tenor.com/view/brain-booped-neuroloid-wh40k-warhammer-40k-tyranid-gif-2113225751638630591

[storm jungle]

tbh this is usually my mindset with GSC lol

yeah they are bad brainwashed masses but also revolutions and mass-killing fascists before you get gooped is funny so idc

[daring creek]

not a fascist empire

Looking good already...

[storm jungle]

[flat nimbus]

“Oh cool, a non-authoritarian faction!”
looks inside
it’s just mind control

[vagrant fox]

But is the hive mind not the ultimate fascist

[storm jungle]

i think to be fascist you kinda need to do a long list of things that are oppressing your own populace first

[flat nimbus]

anyway the real heroes are Harlequins, doing The Prank God’s work

[vagrant fox]

Check, next criteria

[storm jungle]

False, criteria closed

📢 NEXT

[vagrant fox]

Smh fascism apologist

[languid meadow]

GSC are all bald

therefore

evil

[timid pasture]

Which fascists?

[opaque coyote]

Again

More depictions of rebellions against the Imperium that aren't fueled by Chaos or Nids are needed

[timid pasture]

lmao

[opaque coyote]

The Imperium is fascist

Like

By definition

[timid pasture]

In Warhammer? Who isn’t

[languid meadow]

Exodites

Craftworlders

[opaque coyote]

The T'au are an Oligarchy

And the Eldar Craftworlders

[storm jungle]

Not marketable

[opaque coyote]

The Eldar Craftworlders are actually the closest to communism.

[storm jungle]

Also yeah literally only the Imperium is fascist lol

Chaos is like tons of varying forms of authoritarianism mixed with Might Makes Right

[flat nimbus]

because then you undermine Muh Imperium Has To Be This Way

[languid meadow]

Ok ok so the imperium would be a fascist theocracy which IS slightly different from normal fascism

[storm jungle]

Basically lmao

[vagrant fox]

This is why we take gsc and make them cool by making them just secessionists and removing all tyranid links

[storm jungle]

my favorite part is when people say "the Imperium isnt fascist" when it literally checks 12/13 boxes regarding fascism with the only one not applying being systematic sexism of women who are told to stay home and make kids

[languid meadow]

it's just a different form

[flat nimbus]

(because we need those bodies for the grinder too)

[languid meadow]

still fascist but slightly different from the version everyone thinks

[flat nimbus]

“They say the next Exterminatus will be ordered by a transgender Inquisitor.”
“Really makes you feel like part of history.”

[storm jungle]

tbh homophobia does exist in the Imperium

its just varied/not everywhere

[opaque coyote]

Where does the authoritarian part come from?

Like the Chaos Gods?

Abaddon?

Huron?

[storm jungle]

Because CSM literally rule that way lol

[languid meadow]

I mean... I don't see chaos fucking voting

[storm jungle]

^

its Might Makes Right

if you want the leadership position you take it

[flat nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-lips-lick-tongue-out-creepy-gif-17520936

[storm jungle]

barely any CSM is kept in place due to "loyalty"

minus like the black legion but even thats varied

Chaos also doesnt really have thousands of governmental bodies ala the Imperium

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that does fit the definition.

Never really thought of it as authoritarian due to how unstable it is though. But that's just me struggling to think of Chaos as having a governing body

Because well... Chaos

[storm jungle]

tbh again its a mix of any form of oppressive thing

it just doenst have a stable body

the strongest simply rule

and they get replaced and on it goes

[opaque coyote]

Slaaneshi groups vote on what drugs they want to take today

Clearly it's democratic

Should it be made out of human parts? Or Tau?

[scenic trout]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2039467804416434338

The White House (@WhiteHouse)

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What in the Reddit humour

[languid meadow]

I saw an americna on twitter call the moon "our moon"

the tweet was like "Why are we letting these people on our moon" (talking about the Canadian astronaut on the mission)

[sacred ginkgo]

Shoot them

Now

[storm jungle]

actual super-urf type shit

[opaque coyote]

I am no longer happy

[scenic trout]

They are jumping to Epstein Planet

[daring creek]

Reddit country

[opaque coyote]

Qanon country

[scenic trout]

Actually insane

First Epstein Island and now Galaxy/Planet

What else does Nintendo have

[daring creek]

First we have

a confirmed pedophile as our president

a confirmed pedophile, head of one of the most politically influential platforms

then

other things

idk

[opaque coyote]

An anti-vaxxer and possible brain worm puppet host

Controlling the health department

[daring creek]

Oh yeah fucking right

I really wonder whats going to come of that

I hope all the high nobles of terra die terribly

servitorize all inquisitors and make thems serve deviled eggs for eternity

[flat nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/nurgle-gif-14420043269314741948

[daring creek]

AAAUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH

[heady rivet]

Genuinely hilarious tbh

[opaque coyote]

⬛ 🟦 🟫 🟩 🟧 🟪 🟥 ⬜

https://tenor.com/view/cubefunk-cube-spin-animation-drawing-gif-22979313

[arctic talon]

So

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/195404877688602624/1489074495594434791/20260402_023006.jpg?ex=69cf1831&is=69cdc6b1&hm=25c13471d4676861b5e2529541b0350415cb2a24b973938170e126d3b889c0f9&=&format=webp&width=698&height=930

head

[storm jungle]

Here?

Now?

[gleaming gale]

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[opaque coyote]

Honestly

Who TF would steal it

In space

[daring creek]

Me

[timid pasture]

How horus could have won.

Don't bomb the loyalits on istvaan, focus on their ships.
demand fulgrim not be a dumbass
don't siege terra, take it immediately.
zerg rush ultramar to cut off reinforcements
ally with the eldar against the imperials
Ignore africa

[opaque coyote]

The funniest thing is that Istvaan would've basically been over quickly if Angron hadn't dropped down like a dumbass

That wouldn't have really affected things too much

But it is funny that Angron basically sabotaged the cause somewhat

Doing what's basically a Leeory Jenkins

[flat nimbus]

See, this is how you do a ‘Spidey is young compared to his peers’ joke, not “HEY YOU GUYS EVER SEE THAT OLD MOVIE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK”

(and Doom would absolutely be both a TOS fan and pedant)

[opaque coyote]

Also Dr. Doom is (among a lot of things) a nerd

Dude would totally watch like every scifi show

And also magic

[flat nimbus]

see I feel like he’d be a classic grognard

wouldn’t even acknowledge TNG

(because it suddenly made it way harder for him to imagine the Federation as the world he intends to create)

[opaque coyote]

I am sorry but I have not watched Star Trek...

Yet.

But I assume you're saying he'd hate any newer/sequel stuff

In which case...

Yeah probably

[opaque coyote]

Dr Doom would self insert himself into a lot of characters

Because well

He is clearly VERY humble

[flat nimbus]

the kinda guy to both complain about the Original Mary Sue while posting his own self-insert fics under a pseudonym

[opaque coyote]

The concept and term Mary Sue being a star trek fic itself

Is quite fucking funny

In a magazine as well

It genuinely shocked me that the concept was that old

[flat nimbus]

Trek fandom is the origin point for a lot of shit

[plush mason]

ST popularized sci fi

its influence is vast

[flat nimbus]

basically codified the entire idea of fanfiction as we understand it

[opaque coyote]

Gonna post the OG Mary Sue story for giggles

Here it is "A Trekkie's Tale" by Paula Smith

[flat nimbus]

because there was such a gap of time between the series and Motion Picture that the fandom was only sustained by fan creation

[opaque coyote]

Gee, golly, gosh, gloriosky," thought Mary Sue as she stepped on the bridge of the Enterprise. "Here I am, the youngest lieutenant in the fleet - only fifteen and a half years old." Captain Kirk came up to her.

"Oh, Lieutenant, I love you madly. Will you come to bed with me?"

"Captain! I am not that kind of girl!"

"You're right, and I respect you for it. Here, take over the ship for a minute while I go get some coffee for us."

Mr. Spock came onto the bridge. "What are you doing in the command seat, Lieutenant?"

"The Captain told me to."

"Flawlessly logical. I admire your mind."

Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, Dr. McCoy and Mr. Scott beamed down with Lt. Mary Sue to Rigel XXXVII. They were attacked by green androids and thrown into prison. In a moment of weakness Lt. Mary Sue revealed to Mr. Spock that she too was half Vulcan. Recovering quickly, she sprung the lock with her hairpin and they all got away back to the ship.

But back on board, Dr. McCoy and Lt. Mary Sue found out that the men who had beamed down were seriously stricken by the jumping cold robbies, Mary Sue less so. While the four officers languished in Sick Bay, Lt. Mary Sue ran the ship, and ran it so well she received the Nobel Peace Prize, the Vulcan Order of Gallantry and the Tralfamadorian Order of Good Guyhood.

However the disease finally got to her and she fell fatally ill. In the Sick Bay as she breathed her last, she was surrounded by Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, Dr. McCoy, and Mr. Scott, all weeping unashamedly at the loss of her beautiful youth and youthful beauty, intelligence, capability and all around niceness. Even to this day her birthday is a national holiday of the Enterprise.

[opaque coyote]

Star Trek somehow opening Pandora's box

Fanzines were basically just

Fic sites before the internet existed

Genuinely the most shocking thing is how little fandoms have changed

The only thing that has changed is fandoms in general becoming more mainstream

But everything else?

Hasn't changed

Human nature truly makes things a flat circle

...well one thing has changed

I don't know about other people but the term Mary Sue has kinda died out

Probably due to the complexities of writing

[daring creek]

shipping wars?

[near wasp]

I still hear Mary Sue used semi frequently

[signal bramble]

Eww Star Trek, that nerd show for nerds.

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

Holy shit it's

The warhammer

[gleaming gale]

Harry the Hammer wielding the warhammer!

[terse kestrel]

Is it actually stated how deprived the Aeldari were to create Slanesh

[rancid cove]

animated like the gassy bowser gif

cowards

I just watched the first Dune movie and holy shit GW took a lot of concepts from there

[terse kestrel]

I looked it up. Is it safe to say that the modern Aeldari are actually not at all like the former empire, and the Drukhari are?

[gleaming gale]

Kinda, the Craftworld Eldar are those that left before the rest of their kin fucked Slaanesh into existence

[terse kestrel]

I guess it probably doesn’t surprise you at all then, but it is surprising that people pin Slanesh on those same Aeldari

[gleaming gale]

Just like everyone else in the setting, the faction is not a monolith lol

[neon jacinth]

Dune is awesome

[neon jacinth]

Join the planet caravan

[storm jungle]

Dark Eldar are the eldar that keep the ways of the Empire going yes

[terse kestrel]

Do you think the former empire actually looked more like the Drukhari aesthetic? The random killings, torture, sex and so on kinda seems like their aesthetic.

Or is this information touched on

[storm jungle]

Craftworld eldar do none of that shit

[storm jungle]

It had the asuryani aesthetic

[terse kestrel]

Oh ok lol. You just answered it

[storm jungle]

The killings and cult shit was like uhhh

basically imagine our world, everything is "normal" and utopian

but sometimes you just see like random kidnappings

or people being stabbed to death on the street

you'd go "what the fuck"

that kind of thing

[terse kestrel]

What exactly caused the drukhari aesthetic if they did all of that under the eldar/asuryani aesthetic?

[storm jungle]

Basically degredation and giving up the modicum of looking "normal" as their society regressed further into pain and torture

thus the entire hostile aesthetic

[gleaming gale]

Asdrubael Vect supposedly lived before the time of the Fall, considering how fucked up of a dude he is, that pretty much gives you an idea of how the decadent empire was lol

[storm jungle]

even the raider craft most dark eldar used were based on yachts and pleasurecraft the empire used

(this is just one random tidbit of lore but its very funny in the vehicle's description)

[terse kestrel]

Interesting. This makes me like eldar a lot more, but also disappoints me that they’ve been shunned for so long by humanity.

[storm jungle]

Yeah eldar are a very cool faction tbh its just kinda down to what you want

• High Elves in space
• Dark Elves in space
• Pirates
• Clowns

[terse kestrel]

Are the Aeldari canonically connected to the High Elves or do they just use a lot of the same terms

[storm jungle]

Nah just a copy-paste

with their own 40k aesthetic

WHF and 40k are not related

[opaque coyote]

Don't forget Dinosaur Riders

...

[storm jungle]

not an army/tabletop faction but yea

[opaque coyote]

Oh wait they have no tabletop

[gleaming gale]

I mean, the eldar did horrible shit to humans in the Old Night too, it drives the point that all factions are uhhh... bad, but 'heroes' of their own stories

[opaque coyote]

Eh whatever they're still cool

[opaque coyote]

I mean not even heroes. Every faction is trying to survive atp.

Or at least... Think that way

The darkest thing about 40k is that any of them can barely comprehend any other form of existence

[storm jungle]

"Eldar" it was literally just drukhari

Craftworld eldar dont wage war unless they have to

(unless its Biel-Tan kek)