40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

Lmao literally

kroot are scary in this book

the protag knows they are stalking them for like 2 chapters

[vital ginkgo]

How difficult would it be for kharn to beat a custodian in battle? I believe he is better than the average custodian but idk how much better

[storm jungle]

A bit difficult but he'd win because hes got plot armor

thats kinda the thing with Kharn unfortunately

[vital ginkgo]

Everyone in fiction only wins due to plot armor lol

[storm jungle]

well yeah lol

its 40k

and hes got a mini, hes never dying

[celest dome]

Being named cause a lot of heavy lifting

[storm jungle]

^

Its a cheap answer but its reality

[gleaming gale]

Imperial protagonist wins in imperial book
Chaos protagonist wins in chaos book

It's basically 'your dudes' fiction

[celest dome]

Yes but that's cause 40k isn't really that well written

[vital ginkgo]

So it wouldn't even be his most difficult fight?

[solid horizon]

[Named Character]

[vital ginkgo]

Bequin is named too

She beats custodian🗿

[storm jungle]

Yeah and she resurrects too

extra points of plot armor

🗣️

never let em cook!

[celest dome]

If Imortal/being able to resurrect -> Become fooder that named characters are pitted against to make them seem stronger

[misty vector]

got no diffed by a knight though

[vital ginkgo]

No need to resurect. She bodies custodes

[storm jungle]

But she literally resurrected

https://tenor.com/view/re9-hunk-resident-evil-9-hunk-resident-evil-bro-thinks-hes-slick-gif-7196519451552551214

[vital ginkgo]

I know that was the joke

[storm jungle]

[misty vector]

bequin 1 - emperor 0

[arctic talon]

Also Kharn can die

He’s immortal

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[vital ginkgo]

Anyway kharn mid diffs custodes in your opinion?

[arctic talon]

Khorne has brought him back like thrice

lol

[storm jungle]

the choices are like

[arctic talon]

I keep on joking that Kharn has 8 lives

[storm jungle]

• He wins
• He loses, retreats

[arctic talon]

Because it’s khornes sacred number

lol

[gleaming gale]

Bro that's like, going against everything your institution punched into you

[vital ginkgo]

So.... low diff?

Mid diff

[storm jungle]

Whatever the author wants idk

[vital ginkgo]

High

[storm jungle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mongolian

[vital ginkgo]

😑

[arctic talon]

Least based atillan

[arctic talon]

Why are you surprised smh

[storm jungle]

Literally what do you want me to say

lol

[storm jungle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/slap-13676

[vital ginkgo]

Objectivity fans when they encounter 40k lore

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats the reality of it

the authors just do a good job hiding this fact

in reality no one important ever dies

unless its pre-written or they are some unimportant nobody character

[arctic talon]

Rip color Sgt Kell

Creeds wife

I mean what

[solid horizon]

they dont die because james workshop gotta keep selling em minis

[vital ginkgo]

Bro I'm in the middle of fall of cadia

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

KEK

tbh kell has been dead for like 10 years before that book

this isnt a huge revelation

[vital ginkgo]

Lol

[arctic talon]

sorry color Sgt Kell dying isn’t a spoiler to me bcs he died in 7e in a rule book

Sorry

[vital ginkgo]

Np

[solid horizon]

lmao

[vital ginkgo]

I don't really care about her anyway

[celest dome]

I mean, do they /s

[vagrant fox]

no

[arctic talon]

Kell is a guy lmao, I just called him a wife because they really do act like a bickering couple lol

[storm jungle]

They do for most readers

[vagrant fox]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mongolia-astolfo

mongolia mention

[arctic talon]

Why is there a French person on it

[storm jungle]

because people dont realise how much plot armor most characters have

[vagrant fox]

Ask Mongolia

[celest dome]

Titus 💀

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/genghis-khan-statue-mongolia-genghis-khan-gif-14481854688032846997

[solid horizon]

can thallaxii be possessed, in theory ?

[gleaming gale]

Temu Ventris

[plush mason]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1154465388562763905/1488241854355996804/Tumblr_l_3986245671414375.gif

[storm jungle]

any single thing in 40k can be possessed

[solid horizon]

interesting I guess

[arctic talon]

Yeah he was a genocidal asshole, so what

-Mongolia

[celest dome]

Except Titus

[solid horizon]

I assume they'd become mini helbrutes

[arctic talon]

He can be if plot demands

Hush

[celest dome]

GW/Saber don't have the balls to do it

[storm jungle]

what the fuck is it with you and helbrutes

lmao

[solid horizon]

everybody can be possessed until they pop that medicae stimm

[solid horizon]

I like diabolic machines

[storm jungle]

Diablo?

https://klipy.com/gifs/game-retro-14

[solid horizon]

devilish if you prefer

https://tenor.com/view/seymour-skinner-the-peanuts-steamed-hams-devilish-delightfully-devilish-gif-15950427

[plush mason]

daemon engines are cool

[gleaming gale]

"Hey uhh, your commissar..."
"Yeah he said he is going to kill you, I can figure how that went out"

[vagrant fox]

Diablo?

good game

[solid horizon]

lets say I like the concept of helbrutes and daemon engines a lot

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/d3-gif-12981116725106944936

[solid horizon]

I read a lot on pre heresy mechanicum units with horus heresy rulebox, they have a lot of interesting stuff altough it's quite questionable even by imperium standards

[plush mason]

i will say i like the chaos dreadnoughts more than helbrutes, mainly because the CSM inside is being punished, makes a good contrast to the venerated loyalist ones

[solid horizon]

uh

isnt it the opposite

chaos dreadnoughts are heretical dreadnoughts

and helbrutes are space marines or chaos space marines trapped in a dreadnought body, ending up brutally insane and fusing with metal

[storm jungle]

Helbrutes are what a Chaos Dread becomes after heavy mutation

[plush mason]

yeah they have "normal" dreadnoughts too afaik, and often times being stuck in one is a punishment for the marine

[storm jungle]

Let em cook

🗣️

[solid horizon]

not until I dived in warhammer again couple months ago, I thought helbrute was a unique thing because I originally quitted after dark vengeance was released 😔

I used to think mortis metalikus was the only helbrute

[plush mason]

upgrading a chaos dread in DOW2 and he yells 'THIS CAGE GROWS TIGHTER!"

[solid horizon]

and the other were regular chaos dreadnoughts

[storm jungle]

actually good catch lol

[heady rivet]

Oh, the times I've heard that...

[solid horizon]

I recall mortis metallikus was not a heretical marine before being made into a helbrute by his brother

[plush mason]

iirc he also has an attack order line along the lines of "if i do this will you release me?"

[solid horizon]

once I get my chaos dreadnought, I will sculpt a donkey hat for him

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/tsnOpsQYidM?si=1VETfCA9DAVD2BDg

[opaque coyote]

Also this is gonna be about Invincible

So

It is gonna include the comics and therefore spoilers

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-snoring-sleeping-honkshoo-gif-9791480880639208048

[opaque coyote]

I will obviously spoil that

But I'm genuinely worried about a future plot point that will inevitably be adapted

||Nolan/Omni-Man and Debbie getting back together||

You see, the difference between the comics and the show for Debbie is that Debbie is way more proactive in the show

[storm jungle]

Kirkman will pull it off

i got faith in him

stop doubting the goat

[storm jungle]

Me when Arch-Prime Munda Yapper walks in

[heady rivet]

Reminder: i won

[viral halo]

I am glad invincible is as successful as it is

[storm jungle]

Reminder: you are pped

[storm jungle]

it deserves it ngl

[viral halo]

Image comics is in a golden age rn

[storm jungle]

its prob the best breakdown/analysis of superhero media lol

[heady rivet]

Post-Prostatectomy Erectile Dysfunction?

[viral halo]

We need a new Spawn cartoon

[storm jungle]

Yea

[storm jungle]

i wish it happened sooner, we wont have Keith David anymore

[heady rivet]

Epstein had no prostate

[viral halo]

He's still alive

[heady rivet]

And his autopsy said he had a normal prostate aint that funny

[limpid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/bacon-egg-cheese-invincible-nolan-grayson-dancing-gif-9353462142257891875

[storm jungle]

too old is my point

[viral halo]

He voiced spawn in MK11 which was based

which was like 7 years ago

[opaque coyote]

I hope he will, he does good work.

It's just that I can't envision show Debbie ever ||getting back with Omni-Man like in the comics||.

It doesn't feel right with how her character was built up. They added so much for her compared to the comics. And while all of that stuff is fucking peak. Debbie has easily become one of my favorite characters.

I hope that Omni Man and Debbie don't||get back together||. I think that's likely the direction Kirkman will go. But I hope that they don't follow the comics in this specific case

[storm jungle]

Kirkman will pull it off

idk why people say this with Nolan

[viral halo]

he's not even 70 😭

[storm jungle]

people have gotten back to a relationship through worse lmao

[storm jungle]

LOLREALLY

DAMN nvm

[viral halo]

Image comics and DC comics are crushing it lately

marvel is uhhh bad

[storm jungle]

also Debbie and Nolan not getting back together ruins and messes up like so many plotpoints

[storm jungle]

they sit ontop of the world but are surrounded by slop

[viral halo]

Absolute batman is like peak

[heady rivet]

||Shoutout to that post about her being a petplay freak that males him scared||

[storm jungle]

Im so glad i caved in to youtube folks yapping about it because I can confirm yes it is that peak

[viral halo]

Rob Liefeld had a quote about it recently that I will try to sum up "marvel is in a bad place with their comics because every writer and artist is at risk of having their work adapted into a movie or tv show, whereas DC and Image don't have that problem"

[storm jungle]

LMAO

yeah literally that

[viral halo]

His podcast is great

I got his autograph the other day

[opaque coyote]

I doubt many people had gotten a partner that turned out to genocide literally trillions after lying to them for years.

Also the show focuses show much on Debbie's pain that it feels awkward.

Like comic Debbie is so shallow in comparison.

[storm jungle]

Doesnt matter, they are getting back together.

Now shut up before I give you viltrumite backshots

[heady rivet]

Horrible news, I found it

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I know. I just hope it's done in at least a slow manner.

[storm jungle]

Trust in the Kirkman

[viral halo]

Kirkman is a fucking legend man

[storm jungle]

I remember a great quote about him

[opaque coyote]

I will try to trust in Charlie Kirk||man||

Hadto

[storm jungle]

👎

[storm jungle]

"The Boys is made by someone that hates superheroes. Invincible is made by someone that loves superheroes."

[opaque coyote]

But seriously though it is wild on how high quality the show is

[storm jungle]

i remember the two fandoms clashing at one point

[storm jungle]

.

[heady rivet]

https://x.com/aristophaneet/status/2005765811588456910

dan (@aristophaneet)

radical centrism is finding both kirkification and george droyd funny

X · Dec 29, 2025, 10:20 PM

[opaque coyote]

It's fucking spectacular

[viral halo]

Garth Ennis hates superheroes yet has made millions off of them

[storm jungle]

yeah beacuse hes a hypocrite chud

[viral halo]

he's the hasan piker of comics

[storm jungle]

YEP

LOL

Hes a piece of shit

[opaque coyote]

I think he actually likes Superman

Which is

[viral halo]

He does

[opaque coyote]

Deeply ironic

[storm jungle]

I dont think that means shit really

[viral halo]

Superman to him is the perfect hero

[opaque coyote]

But then again, Superman is the goat

[heady rivet]

Alan Moore school of media

[viral halo]

he considers superman to be the authentic representation of a true american as well

[storm jungle]

"American"

[viral halo]

great quote about it somewhere

[storm jungle]

already missed the point

[viral halo]

Ennis is the best punisher writer hands down as well

[opaque coyote]

He is literally an alien in both definitions

[viral halo]

say what you will about him

[opaque coyote]

Trump would hate him

[storm jungle]

Hes fine

I read all of those

[viral halo]

But ennis makes the best punisher

[heady rivet]

He is from Smallville, USA

[storm jungle]

way too much rape, racism and slurs lol

[opaque coyote]

Ennis is good with like...

Oversight

[viral halo]

It was the early 2000s

[storm jungle]

I know LMAO

[storm jungle]

are you sure you arent from Smallville

🔎

[heady rivet]

Shoutout to Crossed btw, movie next year I think

[viral halo]

Manlettown

[storm jungle]

next year?

we already have a Crossed movie

[viral halo]

Crossed made me gag lol

Too much

and I watch real gore

[opaque coyote]

Garth Ennis trying to not put in shock value bullshit into his comics challenge

[heady rivet]

I know what you're talking about, SAME DIRECTOR

[storm jungle]

ironically great movie

[viral halo]

Der Wohl Brutalste zombiefilm

fake language

[heady rivet]

Yeah it was soo good they asked him to do the real one

[viral halo]

wir succhen dich headass

[storm jungle]

WAIT

REALLY

Holy shit

yeah okay then he has to change nothing

lmao

like Sadness is 1:1 a crossed movie which is funny

[opaque coyote]

@viral halo why TF do you have Israel flag emotes

[heady rivet]

Yeah I dont remember any part of Crossed that made me like, really uncomfortable (sicko)

[storm jungle]

Same

i was way too used t ogore

[heady rivet]

Just bored a lot

[storm jungle]

^

this

[viral halo]

[storm jungle]

I really di dnot feel sick

[viral halo]

I have one for every country

[storm jungle]

because its just shock horror

it kinda gets boring

[opaque coyote]

Found it boring since after like the first two pages

It's like

"Oh that's... literally all this is."

[storm jungle]

Torture-p*rn

[viral halo]

Idk guys I didn't like seeing a baby get ripped in half

[heady rivet]

If anything you keep reading to see what the sickos can sicko up next

Thats it

[storm jungle]

you arent getting our point

[heady rivet]

Happens

[storm jungle]

that shit is just "lol okay"

[opaque coyote]

Garth makes genuinely interesting concepts.

Explores none of it.

And adds a bunch of torture porn.

[storm jungle]

like its not sad because its too silly

[opaque coyote]

Genuinely how did he become a writer

[storm jungle]

Ennis you can tell is a r*tard because all his ideas devolve to:

"What if zombies but they sexually assaulted people"

okay Ennis

[heady rivet]

The best part of Crossed is the covers because they're actually quite soulful

[storm jungle]

^

agreed again

[viral halo]

That's bc it's steve dillon

[daring creek]

Does invisible have a new season

[viral halo]

he was garth's bestie

[storm jungle]

Yes

its ongoing rn

[heady rivet]

Get your own opinion

[viral halo]

I got his auto right before he died

[storm jungle]

🫵

[viral halo]

pissed we're never getting that crossed style/early 2000s punisher art again since steve dillon is gone

[heady rivet]

To which then they wrote a whole story MAKING FUN of that being the only fanbase with the comic book store girl!

[flat nimbus]

Best Crossed is Alan Moore’s

[viral halo]

him and garth went out partying and he had a heart attack and died

[daring creek]

I get my original opinions from instagram and tiktok. So im clearly the intellectual here

[opaque coyote]

Crossed could've easily become interesting.

A virus that basically just increases your worst impulses. Could it be controlled? How would people deal with that?

How horrific it would be to see a loved one turn into a murderer?

...

So of course he doesn't tackle that.

Like The Boys was interesting in how it combined Superheroes and celebrity status.

And the show explored that plenty

But the comics barely does so

[flat nimbus]

blame Ireland

[viral halo]

Crossed +100 was interesting

[celest cedar]

great

[heady rivet]

Btw salt circle confirmed as a scene

[celest cedar]

we got a Crossed vibes film

now actual Crossed 😭

[opaque coyote]

Hopefully it actually explores the idea

In a more psychological horror sense

Instead of just

"murder murder raggh"

[flat nimbus]

Yeah the show found entirely new ways to drop the ball

[heady rivet]

Yeah The Sadness they were like trapped in their own body hence the crying or whatever. Crossed just dgaf

[celest cedar]

yeah the comics is ass cuz of this 💀

[viral halo]

remember in crossed when that dude has that kid fuck a dead body for no reason

the biker chapter

odd choice

[celest cedar]

ZOMBIES THAT SA PEOPLE RAAA

[opaque coyote]

Lmao.

Tbf it's only been dropping the ball recently.

And even then, stuff like Gen V is still good.

[celest cedar]

or uh

[viral halo]

The boys comics are some of the worst comics ever made

the show is reaching slop tier

[celest cedar]

that part where a dude

in a sexual relationship with a minor 💀

[heady rivet]

You'll have to be more specific

[opaque coyote]

The worst part is that I fucking love zombie movies and stuff.

I find zombies genuinely interesting.

You could explore a lot with the concept of a virus turning people into husks of themselves. Or even go classical and have them rise from the dead.

[viral halo]

This is just the feature of all early 2000s comics. In ultimate x men, wolverine is 300 and banging like a 16 year old jean grey

[opaque coyote]

Zombies are fairly modular which is why they're popular despite being oversaturated

[storm jungle]

the moment we talk about crossed i get called into Genchat to see this shit

[viral halo]

Someone at marvel read game of thrones in 2003 and had magneto's kids fucking

[opaque coyote]

What the fuc

[storm jungle]

insta ban

lmao

[heady rivet]

Sometimes you may think you hate the poors enough, but its never enough

[opaque coyote]

Crossed Disease happening irl

Fr

[viral halo]

slavic activities

[flat nimbus]

okay now read The Unfunnies and say that

[opaque coyote]

[vagrant fox]

it's manifesting for real

[viral halo]

The creator of the MAXX died last week

[opaque coyote]

Tbf if you read something with the title

"The Unfunnies"

[viral halo]

another image legend

[storm jungle]

Dumbass.

[viral halo]

Not thrice at least!

[flat nimbus]

Ultimates was a lot of bad edgy ideas
like, Hulk wanted to fuck Freddy Prinze Jr

[daring creek]

Mfs be normal then just casually say shit like this

The hell.

[storm jungle]

yeah good job lol

[heady rivet]

Well they basically said "Oh go see the movie!" with a smug look on their face

But they cast all the involved characters

[daring creek]

Like what the fuck dude

[storm jungle]

wait its shot already?

[opaque coyote]

I think the worst I've seen is like

An acquittance leaving a homeless man's dog in a park because it kept pissing in his store. They live in Hawaii and there's a huge stray animal problem apparently

Of course I and others gave him shit

[limpid granite]

salt

[opaque coyote]

And he ended up regretting it immensely

[flat nimbus]

but enough about Incorruptible

[limpid granite]

like sea salt?

[storm jungle]

(he doesnt know)

[viral halo]

when are we doing a group reading of dog welder

[limpid granite]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sea-salt-cecil

[heady rivet]

I believe its in post-production as we speak, they already released some stills of the cast

[storm jungle]

yeah uh sea salt

[opaque coyote]

Especially when the fucking HOmeless man began crying asking for his dog

[storm jungle]

totally

[opaque coyote]

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT ALEX??

[storm jungle]

Lmao can you post them

i wanna see

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-american-psycho-christian-bale-get-a-job-get-a-goddamn-job-al-gif-21342181

[opaque coyote]

THAT HE WOULDN'T PANIC???

[flat nimbus]

bueno

[viral halo]

Time to leave work and head to a wake

fun times

[storm jungle]

okay Junior Soprano

[opaque coyote]

This is a real story btw

Why he

Ever thought that was a good idea

[viral halo]

I'm unironically prepping the quote junior says at the casket for when my best friend and I go up to the casket

[heady rivet]

Like they finished filming a while back i think

[rocky gale]

Poor guy

[heady rivet]

Inb4 shadow dropped on shudder

Thank you random crew instagram

[storm jungle]

LOL

[heady rivet]

Not that I know of

[opaque coyote]

Damn those skeletons look gnarly

[viral halo]

I will not be watching because I'm a baby who can't do scary movies

[opaque coyote]

Also ew (lovingly) on that close up to the makeup

[viral halo]

midsommar is as far as it goes for me

[opaque coyote]

It's so disgusting

I love it

[heady rivet]

As a lifelong horror fan only one (1) horror movie has wigged me the FUCK out in like 15 years

[opaque coyote]

Then again I think I have a weird fear of holes

Hate that shit when it's on like people

[viral halo]

well don't edge me what is it

[opaque coyote]

Always makes me shiver

I can handle watching gore videos unless if it has lots of holes in it.

Then I can barely even handle fiction

[daring creek]

Anyways like I've been writing something on and off based off servitors. For now I've been calling them dollus.

It relates to this cuz im kind of lost on how to write people slowly losing their humanity by the day.

Like Dollus still have personality, their suffering is more temporary. They have more of a 'preference' in being servants after the treatment.

My phone is gonna die :(

[opaque coyote]

Charge then detail

[opaque coyote]

I have no idea how that would even work

Like at all

How do you

[heady rivet]

Alien Romulus. Near the end when ||it cuts to the half-spawn completely silently just lurching there. Genuinely made the hair on the back of my neck stand up||

[opaque coyote]

Temporarily be lobotomized

[velvet kiln]

i didn't know rogue trader was getting more dlc thats so hype, and its trazyn themed, its peak

[storm jungle]

MAN

that fucking thing was just

"AW HELL NO"

[heady rivet]

@storm jungle Last one, its stumps!

[viral halo]

good flick

[storm jungle]

NOOOOOOOOOO

Also based dwarf actor

(kinda thicc too)

[velvet kiln]

Romulus was the newest one right

[opaque coyote]

His fucking skin and everything looks so disgusting

[storm jungle]

yeah it was

it came out uhh last year?

[opaque coyote]

Nurgle tier shir

Love it

[velvet kiln]

the fact the human hybrid was 99% practical effects is terrifying

[heady rivet]

||Incest babies are just like that. Dont fuck your cousin||

[storm jungle]

yeah its a real actor

hes freaky as shit i love him

[opaque coyote]

God I need to watch Romulus

[heady rivet]

I HATE that thing

[viral halo]

it's really good

[outer wave]

Yeah fella has a dumpy on him

[heady rivet]

The way it just stared

[velvet kiln]

I was pleasantly surprised at how good Romulus was compared to the other modern alien projects

[storm jungle]

its prob because they put actual effort into it

[viral halo]

I heard theyre making a new starship troopers with the oriignal cast

[velvet kiln]

oh no

[hallow plover]

Romulus was a good surprise considering the alien media we had before

[opaque coyote]

Oh shit fr

[heady rivet]

i dont like him.

[opaque coyote]

EW

[velvet kiln]

alien isolation 2 with this fyxking guy

[heady rivet]

I'd rather die in real life

[opaque coyote]

Oh I would totally buy that ahit

Not in VR though

[daring creek]

Ill say more l8r

:(

[daring creek]

Coward

[opaque coyote]

Please do so it sounds interesting.

[opaque coyote]

Because I don't wanna buy a VR headset

Those things cost a lot

[velvet kiln]

one of my favorite things about isolation is how faithful it is to being an 80s movie in a video game form, everything looks like something youd see in a 80s-90s movie set, even the robots look like they could just be a guy wearing a rubber mask

[heady rivet]

Casette futurism my beloved

[velvet kiln]

ture

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it's also what I fucking love about the Alien Movies in general

All 70's era tech

But futuristic

The shitty DOS computers

The casettes everywhere

Etc.

Also the Working Joes are easily my favorite enemies.

[heady rivet]

God tier aesthetic

[opaque coyote]

And it makes sense as well

[velvet kiln]

shitty dos pcs are so common in scifi cause theyre just way more visually interesting (also a lot of long-standing sci-fi franchises were made when those were actually PCS)

[opaque coyote]

Of course some would want less advanced androids for tasks

[storm jungle]

yeah its just a neat aesthetic

[opaque coyote]

Though in general the androids in Alien/Aliens just

Creep me out a little

Especially when the guy in Alien got beheaded

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/1980s-80s-tech-retro-video-gif-13001618

We love the 80s

[velvet kiln]

I need to see the new predator movie where the predator lugs around the top half of an Android for the whole movie

[opaque coyote]

The weird beads, their milk like blood, the fact that when they woke him up while he was a head. He basically vomited out all of his... Blood?

[heady rivet]

Me plugging in coordinates to sling ourselves around a star

[opaque coyote]

It's horrific

In a weird way

I love it

Although a part of me can't be completely horrified because again

White blood

[velvet kiln]

the original cyberpunk 2020 aesthetic has a similar vibe i think

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I kinda wish for a cyberpunk video game that takes place earlier

[velvet kiln]

play shadowrun if you like crpgs

[opaque coyote]

I like 2077's aesthetic but I wanna see how they'd handle something like 2020

We only got a short peak with Johnny's flashback

[rancid cove]

which one is yalls favorite

[opaque coyote]

And honestly I liked some of the designs

[heady rivet]

Chainsword sweep

[opaque coyote]

Especially 2020 Smasher

[heady rivet]

Too iconic

[opaque coyote]

He actually looks intimidating compared to the old drawings

[rancid cove]

I have a better answer
Chain glaive.

[velvet kiln]

shadowrun has an aesthetic similar to the old cyberpunks and also has phantasy shit mixed in like magic and elves dwarves and other shit, very cool world

[opaque coyote]

Honestly Thunder Hammer

[velvet kiln]

none force sword

[heady rivet]

Shame you have to assemble a team of the worlds most German Germans to play this

[opaque coyote]

It's always satisfying to just

BONG

[velvet kiln]

warp use sanctioned

[velvet kiln]

THERES THREE CRPGS VIDEO GAMES

[rancid cove]

Force sword is a power sword with psychic link

[velvet kiln]

PLAY THEM

[opaque coyote]

Not even power sword

Without a Psyker link

[rancid cove]

True
and its also used to kill titans and dreadnoughts so, strong as fuck as well

[opaque coyote]

It's basically just a normal sword

It works differently compared to Power Swords though

[rancid cove]

i thought it was a power sword enhanced with a psycic lin

k]

[opaque coyote]

Nah it's made out of some vague special material

That allows Psykers to put their power into it

And use it to fuck shit up

[rancid cove]

ah

[opaque coyote]

I think how powerful it is depends on the Psykers level

So maximum potential is something like

[velvet kiln]

shout out the force sword pysker inquisutor in rogue trader hes cool asf

[opaque coyote]

The Emperor's sword probably

[opaque coyote]

Where it can perma kill daemons

Not just send back to the warp

[velvet kiln]

I could do that ngl

doesn't even seem that hard

[opaque coyote]

Usually Everytime a Daemon dies. They just get sent back to the warp

Slice them

Disintegrate them

Even using warp powers

[velvet kiln]

anyway om so hyped that owlcat is making both a newgame (IT LOOKS PEAK AS FUCK) and more dlc for rogue trader i cant wait to see what they do with ol trazyn

[opaque coyote]

It's like they get sent back to lobby

[velvet kiln]

no I'd win

[opaque coyote]

Only the Emperor can supposedly perma kill them

[velvet kiln]

no I could do it easy

[opaque coyote]

Okay Mr. Emperor 2

[velvet kiln]

demons of the warp hate to see me coming

[opaque coyote]

But yeah basically Everytime a Daemon invades the materium

It's equivalent to them queueing up in a lobby

"Where we dropping boys"

[velvet kiln]

guys whys the queue for terra so fuckin long

[celest dome]

Not really, but it's very difficult/tricky to do it, Emp's sword is just a cheat to do it without much work

[opaque coyote]

Honestly now I have the idea of like daemons basically acting like they're playing a video game

But with proximity chat

[celest dome]

Cause Terra's warp is basically choked from the Emperor's power

[opaque coyote]

"WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING KILLGORE. YOU'RE THROWING!"

[velvet kiln]

yes it was a joke, a funny jest

[opaque coyote]

"I'M FARMING EXP I'LL BE THERE!"

"I'M BEING JUMPED ON BY SEVERAL SPACE MARINES!"

[storm jungle]

@rose thorn https://x.com/wolfdawgart/status/2038640772312953121

WOLFDAWG ART (@WolfdawgArt)

Oh yeah, one other thing that’s interesting at adepticon, was in a seminar talk with a GW designer her mentioned that the AoS miniature design team/ and the 40k miniature design team thing is a myth, and the designers work on both systems. Which is kinda interesting to find out

X · Mar 30, 2026, 3:33 PM

you gotta be shitting me

SO AOS MODELLERS JUST COOK FOR NO REASON?

WHILE 40K ONES DONT?

💀

BRUH

[celest dome]

Same modellers, different artistic directors

[opaque coyote]

"Okay, finally, I made the model for AoS. How many days do I have left for the 40k- ah SHIT."

[heady rivet]

Granny has dementia

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

Also might be miniature designer vs art designer

[opaque coyote]

@heady rivet do raora point laugh

[rose thorn]

LMAOOOOO

[opaque coyote]

as a message

not as a reaction

pls

[heady rivet]

[rose thorn]

THEY JUST LIKE AOS MORE

[heady rivet]

But why tho

[opaque coyote]

lower quality

even better

[celest dome]

Freer in design, community that isn't full of asses

[heady rivet]

Not u

[opaque coyote]

can confirm

I am the ass

[celest dome]

You're not the worst of asses

[opaque coyote]

good

I knew I wasn't that flat

[vagrant fox]

the shit i see when i look in the mirror with the lights off

[rose thorn]

I hope they reveal Boole locked in a back room designing an intercessor

[vagrant fox]

have a cool, gang

[arctic talon]

Nah they just showed him off like this at one of the Adepticon seminars

[vagrant fox]

Who is this twink, I want him to suffer more

[misty vector]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[rose thorn]

HASHHDHAHSHSHW

[arctic talon]

Some random NPC who slits his own throat, next question

[vagrant fox]

is it worth it to drive an hour to visit a lgs

[heady rivet]

Lots
Gay
Sex

[vagrant fox]

can you skin this fool

[arctic talon]

Depends

[vagrant fox]

You're not getting my vote anymore, I need hard decisive answers

[rocky gale]

How could that cover imply anything other than gay minotaur sex

Even the tagline implies it

"A different kind of LITRPG" yea the kind with gay minotaur sex

[civic gale]

So

Lore chat

Hi

What's the "sneakiest" chapter?

I saw a video that claimed it was the raptors (not a short mind you) because they had to survive their planet

Dead chat damn

[rancid cove]

First founding is Raven Guard

[rose thorn]

Who ever says raptors is wrong and doenst read

It’s literally Raven guard

[civic gale]

Why so

[rancid cove]

Raptors whole shitkc is guerrila warfare

thats their entire gimmick

[rose thorn]

They have a gene mutation that makes them basically invisible

[civic gale]

WHAT

[rose thorn]

Have you played uhhh

Thief?

[civic gale]

Nope

[rose thorn]

There is a coven of thieves who can make poeple just not recognize they exist

[arctic talon]

Raven Guard have some weird psychic geneseed mutation going on

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[rancid cove]

Just to be clear its Dante by Guy Hailey and not Dante: Lord of the Host, right?

[rancid cove]

they also had that raptor shit with the inductii during HH

[civic gale]

Hmm I see

But aren't the raptors a successor chapter?

[rancid cove]

yeah

[civic gale]

So shouldn't they carry a similar mutation?

[rancid cove]

no

[arctic talon]

Not always

[civic gale]

[rancid cove]

not all chapters share the same mutation, they can develop their own as well

[arctic talon]

Also the wraithslip shit only really works

on psykers

[rancid cove]

example is black dragons

[arctic talon]

Yeah that also

The raptors likely suffered some level of geneseed mutation of their own

[celest dome]

Raptor Marines are basically just CSM who pledged to a specific Chaos God/being no ?

[rancid cove]

thats chaos raptors

[arctic talon]

The raptor chapter

[rancid cove]

theres 3 types of raptors in 40k

lmao

[arctic talon]

not Raptors(the thing)

Raptors(the inductii shit), raptors the CSM, raptors the sucessor chapter

[rancid cove]

1. Chaos Raptors
2. Heresy Raptors
3. Raptors the chapter

[arctic talon]

good job G dubs

[celest dome]

Fucking 40k bullshit

[civic gale]

More like

[rose thorn]

No mutations are most prominent in the chapter it mutates from. Additionally RG successors that have the mutation usually are snatched up to join their “shadow masters”

[civic gale]

Chud workshop

I suck at jokes

[rancid cove]

Black Templars, White Templars, Red Templars

[civic gale]

Gotcha

[arctic talon]

Green templars

[rose thorn]

Orangish red Templars

[storm jungle]

Whichever is the one that covers his origin

[civic gale]

Can there be a successor within a sucessor?

[rose thorn]

Yes

[civic gale]

Is there a successor to black templars?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[arctic talon]

No

[civic gale]

Name?

Oh

Oopsie

[storm jungle]

Yeah a Successor of a Successor is not a common thing

[vagrant fox]

There's a raptor gunship too

[storm jungle]

the Chapter has ot be like EXTREMELY highly esteemed

[civic gale]

[storm jungle]

[civic gale]

Any examples?

[rancid cove]

black templars

[arctic talon]

Executioners had the Iron champions drawn from them

[storm jungle]

Astral Claws

[rancid cove]

they got like 3 successor warbands

i think

[civic gale]

Of a successor that has a successor

[rancid cove]

or is it 2

[storm jungle]

Chapters*

but yes

[arctic talon]

Tome Keepers are also a sucessor chapter of a sucessor chapter

they're of UM genestock but their geneseed wasn't from UM

we dunno what chapter

[civic gale]

And what's the og chapter?

[arctic talon]

IF -> Executioners -> Iron Champions/Skull Bearers/Crimson Axes

[rancid cove]

i think one of them even came back to the astral claws for help a lil bit before the badab war kicked in

[civic gale]

Interesting

[arctic talon]

UM -> (????) -> tome keepers

[vagrant fox]

Mantis Warriors are a successor successor right

[arctic talon]

(????) -> (????) -> Astral Claws

[civic gale]

I need to get the imperial fists dlc

[arctic talon]

executioners wear human skin

which is fun

[arctic talon]

yeah

[civic gale]

Doesn't sound much fun

[arctic talon]

White Scars -> Marauders -> Mantis Warriors

[arctic talon]

idk this shit is drippy

you should try flaying more people alive

for the emperor

[civic gale]

Aren't the black dragons a Salamanders sucessor with a pretty big mutation with bone spikes?

[arctic talon]

yeah

they're from the cursed founding

[civic gale]

Why tf are they not in sm2 then

[rancid cove]

thanks! bought The Gildar Rift and Dante, excited to read them after im finished with the first 5 HH books

[rancid cove]

according to recent leaks

theyre gettin added

alongside some other banger chapters

i could send you a print of all the incoming chapters

[arctic talon]

because they have a unique looking chapter insignia

lol

They tend to go for more reusable ones first

[civic gale]

FAAAAAAAAAAH

[rancid cove]

theyre by the middle of the list @civic gale but theyre coming

[civic gale]

Plix

[rancid cove]

im very excited for angels vermillion and carmine blade

[arctic talon]

oh hey the purge

[rancid cove]

theres also some chaos stuff incoming

[civic gale]

Purge?

[rancid cove]

like official wordbearer stuff

[civic gale]

most likely for pvp

[rancid cove]

no those are all lists for decals

so theyre equippable on pve

just not the armor

purely chapter markers

[civic gale]

I noticed you can make all pre heresy chapters

Sm2 has the chaos decal but the second to last is always pre heresy if I recall

Even sons of horus

[rancid cove]

yeah

i have uhhh

a night lord cosplay
you can call it both pre and post heresy

my Night Lord and Sons of Horus drip

he also has a wolf thing in honor for the luna wolves

Have some pre heresy EC as well

[limpid granite]

a shame soul drinkers an knights of byzantium arent in there

[rancid cove]

average soul drink L

[solid horizon]

it pisses pre heresy EC fans when I remind them they love pink space marines

[vagrant fox]

I quite like Hasp

We're in an era of proper commissars

[solid horizon]

im not battling against the guard ever again

[rocky gale]

That's purple

[solid horizon]

to be exact

it's full grim

[arctic talon]

ngl

Pink is a good color

People who do not like pink and black EC are

weak

[vagrant fox]

correct statement

[solid horizon]

yes statement

[rancid cove]

so?

[solid horizon]

I have nothing more to say, my statement speaks for itself

[rocky gale]

A statement that says more of it's speaker than itself

https://klipy.com/gifs/laughing-at-you-5

[solid horizon]

what does it say

what do the voices say

vashtorr grant me earing aid for I am deaf

[rocky gale]

You wanna know what they say?

They say

https://klipy.com/gifs/take-a-hike-you-bum-otto

[solid horizon]

I failed my leadership test

I am now battleshocked

[arctic talon]

I should be allowed to skin Hasan Piker alive for his opinions on taiwan

[vagrant fox]

Elaborate, nationalist

[arctic talon]

Reunification under the CCP/One country two systems good actually

fucking CCP cocksucker lol

acting like the last time polling was done the majority of people in Taiwan want the current status quo maintained

[vagrant fox]

But it worked out so good for Hong Kong ☝️ 🤓

[arctic talon]

Democracy is dead in Hong Kong

lol

Anyways Hasan should be flayed alive by the blade of Chiang Kai Shek for this

a true facist Taiwan nationalist demagogue's blade can only be satiated with the blood of westerner CCP supporters

[vagrant fox]

Maybe also ignore that possibly up to over 500k people have left it worked out good

[arctic talon]

💀

Hasan piker is deadass halfway there to being a tankie

[vagrant fox]

I have a friend who's communist and perpetually defends Hasan so

[arctic talon]

Do they like the CCP

or do they think they're reformist

[vagrant fox]

Yea he likes them

[arctic talon]

Rather do they consider Mao a class collaborationist(he was)

okay

so they're not a communist got it

They just want state capitalism with socialist safety nets

[vagrant fox]

Called soviets red fascists but claimed no one is jobless in China

[arctic talon]

That

is literally untrue

That is like objectively fucking untrue

There's so many goddamn unemployed Gen Z people rn its kind of insane

[vagrant fox]

He's a funny guy, I think he's only communist aligned because his grandpa was a commie guerilla in Uruguay

[arctic talon]

I mean I guess?

but the CCP has no plans of going back to communism lol

they're state capitalist forever now

Sorry uh they say they'll do it in 10 years

and then they say they'll do it in another 10 years

surely this time

[vagrant fox]

Yeah, that ship has sailed and sank somewhere past the horizon

[arctic talon]

Deng simultaneously saved China and killed the CCP ideologically

lol

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/deng-deng-xiaoping-gif-7629053208525409908

[arctic talon]

I'd say the average person under Dengism lives a far better life lmao

Mao was actually fucking stupid

in terms of some of the shit he did

the CCP was right to remove him lol

[vagrant fox]

Greatest villain who ruined the plans of the gang of four

[arctic talon]

LOL

virgin Gang of Four vs Chad Deng Xiaoping

[vagrant fox]

I'm sympathetic my pal doesn't believe China is in any way communist but he glazes it sometimes in the weirdest ways

[arctic talon]

crazy

lol

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/leftcom-leftcoms-deng-xiaoping-xiaoping-socialism-with-chinese-characteristics-gif-17353954087256573578

[vagrant fox]

I wonder how bad it would be if gang of four had their way, cultural revolution 2 now, comrade

[arctic talon]

china prolly would have fucking imploded

again

[vagrant fox]

The KMT would have clutched it the second time

[vagrant fox]

Why does he look like he's in Baki

[arctic talon]

holy aura

[solid horizon]

anime mao vs hitler sayan

[arctic talon]

also the transition from Red sun into Red sun is fucking hilarious

[lament shoal]

Yeah LMAO

[storm jungle]

I forgot does the modern chinese government revere Mao

[arctic talon]

Yesn't

he is seen as a flawed individual who was right 70% of the time and horrifically wrong 30% of the time

[storm jungle]

Jesus christ man lmao

[arctic talon]

I think you can guess

what the horrifically wrong 30% is

[storm jungle]

LOL

[rocky gale]

That he didn't kill enough landlords?

[arctic talon]

The CCP is being kind of revisionist generally with Mao/Chiang in general

lol

with them straight up saying had Chiang been less of a psychopath he would have won china

lol

and also some other weird stuff

also with the government saying that Mao would have been perfect had he died after being a Guerilla lol

So The CCP's opinion on Mao is kind of wishywashy nowadays lol

[arctic talon]

I mean if you talk to hardcore Marxist Leninists in China(yes they exist) they hate Mao and call him a class collaborationist lol

but the CCP has pretty much entierly purged those individuals from its ranks

aside from at local levels

[vagrant fox]

Can't be too revered if Xi Jinping is snatching up several of the titles Mao had

[arctic talon]

^yeah that also

Mao isn't some sort of God King lol

[last oyster]

Quick question guys

[arctic talon]

shoot

[last oyster]

Who are more badass

[arctic talon]

what

[last oyster]

Cadians or Steel Legion?

[arctic talon]

Opinion

lol

I deadass like how cadians look more

[lament shoal]

Cadians

Also idk anything about the iron legion so

[rocky gale]

Iron Legion, like from Marvel?

[vagrant fox]

Subjectively it is factually Cadians with occasional Iron Legion moments

[rocky gale]

Bro the fuck are the Iron Legion

[arctic talon]

I'd assume they meant steel legion

lol

[vagrant fox]

Iarmoth doesn't know

[last oyster]

I miss translated my bad xddd

[arctic talon]

not your fault lol

[rocky gale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/thurston-waffles-meow-1

[arctic talon]

It got the idea across I feel

[rocky gale]

All your fault

Made me look foolish

[vagrant fox]

Deadass I was thinking Mordian Iron Guard and didn't register I wrote legion instead of guard

[rocky gale]

Yea like it could be Mordian Iron Guard or Armageddon Steel Legion. Like I dunno which

[last oyster]

[vagrant fox]

Steel Legion wins if it's not the newslop

[lament shoal]

Ngl the cutthroat’s voice of command lines helped solidify my love for cadians

[arctic talon]

Cadians are best when they lean into how psychopathic and egotistical they are

lol

[vagrant fox]

Cadians are very cool

[lament shoal]

Tbf I’ve always felt that they deserve to be arrogant

[last oyster]

Are cadians newslop

[vagrant fox]

Go my white shields, swarm the enemy vehicles

[lament shoal]

They’re good at what they do and they’re still standing after the destruction of their homeworld. Badasses

[arctic talon]

no Cadians are old as shit lol

[lament shoal]

No lmao they’ve been around since the beginning

[rose thorn]

First time. Ever

[arctic talon]

well

[vagrant fox]

Nah, I'm joking around

[arctic talon]

not the beginning

[last oyster]

Oh ok

[arctic talon]

They came after the classig OG guard minis

in the big wave of all the modern regimental ones lol

these are the real Old ones

[rocky gale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kill-it-kami

[vagrant fox]

GW denazified the Steel Legion and made it newslop

[arctic talon]

these are the old Cadians lol

[rose thorn]

What the fuck are you on about!!!

[vagrant fox]

Really quite neat to see how far their modelling has come

[arctic talon]

and then in 3e they got a redesign

[vagrant fox]

I'm not serious

[arctic talon]

Tbh

the OG cadian minis were literally WW2 nazi minis

at some point in development

all the old guard minis that replaced the RT era ones were at one point WW2 or WW1 minis

GW had some plans for a historical system and decided not to do that

[wary fulcrum]

These officers were the best

Got two of the catachan officer redesigns somewhere

[valid needle]

Based

[crystal forum]

doesn't this end up being its own form of gatekeeping

[arctic talon]

this dude is like the most nazi coded of the OG cadians lol

[crystal forum]

were they even cadians back then? i thought it was just generic soldier

[arctic talon]

yeah those were cadians

and this was the "standard kit" of the imperium

lol

[crystal forum]

i thought cadia was just generic guard before they had lore added

[arctic talon]

no

lol

[vagrant fox]

He'd fit right into Állo Állo

[arctic talon]

Cadians were on of the special snowflake regiments starting in 2e

Steel legion were lateish to the party but obv part of the same sculpting set

[valid needle]

Holy based mini

[arctic talon]

And were added among the BEEG regiments in 3e

DKOK and Elysians happened 4e

[crystal forum]

you can tell they were all supposed to be WW2 regiments except for vostroyans

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

krieg started as a steel legion kitbash and now steel legion is a krieg alternative color scheme

[heady rivet]

Wasnt a kitbash, just a paint scheme

[arctic talon]

man catachan lost a lot aesthetically lmao

pacific theater lookin ass mf'er

[last stone]

One handing? Dayum

[arctic talon]

I do love the rambo guys way more tho

lol

[vagrant fox]

Bicep the size of his head

[arctic talon]

ngl I could see vostroyans as some sort of white russian army

[crystal forum]

there's already the WW2 soviet regiment

valhallans

[arctic talon]

Yeah

thats why I said whites lol

There's a weird ammount of historicals who let you play as white russians

[crystal forum]

in WW2?

[lament shoal]

I wish we got more updated catachan models. i wanna paint one as snake lol

[heady rivet]

We say crackkker here

[arctic talon]

Yes

its fucking weird

I have 0 clue why

[crystal forum]

i guess people want that fancy uniform

[rancid cove]

no because its just pointing out the behaviour of people who try to gate keep the hobby and actively do not understand nor try to enjoy the lore or setting at all

[lament shoal]

What a thrill….

[arctic talon]

Vlasov Movement or whatever the fuck

I think is what its usually labled as

[rancid cove]

they just look at cool arts of space marines and go "yeah this is it the good guys!"

[crystal forum]

your piece is about guard tho

[hallow saddle]

kreig got models from forge world in the mid 2000s

[crystal forum]

yeah with vraks campaign

[rancid cove]

the point isnt the art displayed on the image

[crystal forum]

which is where a ton of models also come from like the malcadore tank

[rocky gale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-whale-moan

[lament shoal]

People act this way about marines too

[hallow saddle]

point is forge world made kreig popular by making the models

[lament shoal]

I saw this movie. I enjoyed it but I still think its crazy how this poor dude just straight up dropped dead right in front of his daughter

[rocky gale]

Wow

Spoiler

https://klipy.com/gifs/kermit-the-frog-muppets-6

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/lerolero-itswill-do-this-dance-cat-hands-dance-gif-15634157831569175603

[crystal forum]

it's not even forge world that's to blame really it's that one guy who created the campaign

i dont remember his name

[hallow saddle]

alan bligh RIP

[crystal forum]

but he pretty much lead the entire design

[hallow saddle]

true legend of the hobby

[vagrant fox]

Beat Jays ass clean off for this heresy

[storm jungle]

Jay's tastes are like zero

[crystal forum]

im not good at names and dates

[arctic talon]

I’d take backshots from Bligh for a week straight if it meant he didn’t die

I mean what

[crystal forum]

i sucked in history classes

[hallow saddle]

same

[storm jungle]

we arent even joking either the guy is a legend

the moment he died Forgeworld imploded

lmao

[vagrant fox]

I would suck sloppy to save Blighs life

[hallow saddle]

like krieg became popular because alan bligh was really great at his job

[storm jungle]

tbh its that and people STILL talk about Vraks to this day

that goes to show how good it was

[hallow saddle]

and forge world brought them to life

[storm jungle]

LMAO THATS THE ENDING?

[crystal forum]

most krieg players probably never even played vraks

[storm jungle]

Its not really about playing

did most people go through the Odyssey? lol

[crystal forum]

but the story is just iconic

[storm jungle]

its about the story itself

[crystal forum]

guard doesn't get many good stories like that usually

[lament shoal]

Yeah lmfao. But trust me as comical as it sounds, its an emotional build up to that point

[storm jungle]

yeah alright ill give it a shot, love Fraser

[storm jungle]

I mean it does

its just buried under slop after slop

that guard fans also eat up

[civic gale]

I love that AI brought the word slop

[storm jungle]

im pretty sure people were saying slop before AI

[vagrant fox]

Me buying the 9th Lyons slop novel

[lament shoal]

Slop’s been around before then

[vagrant fox]

This time surely

[crystal forum]

slop is what you feed pigs