#40k-lore-chat

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opaque coyote
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But yeah.

Problem is that as a result. A good chunk of the coolest looking chapters/factions/etc. in 40k... also happen to be the most infested with Nazis.

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It's quite annoying

storm jungle
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Also 40k's problem is the Imperium is very european/nazi coded for most of its factions

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WHF and AOS suffer none of this shit

opaque coyote
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And now I am deeply worried that if I ever get into Warhammer and paint some of my favorite factions.

Then I am deeply afraid that someone's gonna look at me with the black Templar army.

And either look for someone else or they're like... an actual Fascist

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It just kinda sucks

storm jungle
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Thats life lol

vagrant fox
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Hardly matters unless you start shouting racist terms out loud

storm jungle
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^

heady rivet
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If you live your entire life afraid of someone elses misconception you're not gonna make it

opaque coyote
# storm jungle WHF and AOS suffer none of this shit

Tbf, it was kinda inevitable for the Imperium to a degree.

They are literally a gigantic fascist empire. Of course some of their stuff would take inspiration out of fascist armies.

While WHF/AoS generally is based off of the medieval era.

storm jungle
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Most tabletop gamers are not that judgemental, they'll greet you with their case of minis first and gauge you

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if you say nazi shit then yeah lol

storm jungle
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faction whos main symbol is a fascist eagle

vagrant fox
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I've seen a little bit of chuddery in WHFB but certainly not as much as 40k

opaque coyote
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Like the Imperium is meant to represent the worst regime of mankind

storm jungle
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Yeah the chuddery is just basic toxicity

opaque coyote
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So obviously they would take inspiration from the worst factions... of mankind

storm jungle
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the games itself have a zero nazi issue

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especially as the Empire is not fash coded

vagrant fox
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I'm hoping as Cathay has been introduced and we're seeing some more Ind we'll see some shits crawl out of the woodwork and be banished into the hellrealm

flat nimbus
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thumbsdown_ogryn : praising the God-Emperor
thumbsup_ogryn : praising SIGMAR

opaque coyote
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Chuds

opaque coyote
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Probably because the Chuds hate the T'au

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For

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Some reason??

flat nimbus
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anime

storm jungle
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"I dont like their aesthetic"

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"They are communists"

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"They are weebs"

vagrant fox
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few reasons, none of them based in much of anything

storm jungle
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yap yap

vagrant fox
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memes mostly

opaque coyote
flat nimbus
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and yeah the “lol dumb commies”

opaque coyote
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THEY AREN'T EVEN COMMUNIST

storm jungle
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Yeah when they literally use a caste system KEK

flat nimbus
storm jungle
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Eldar are a soup of aesthetics

vagrant fox
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My expansionist caste system empire is COMMIES

storm jungle
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Celtic, Hindu, Japanese, Greek, etc

gleaming gale
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Craftworld Eldar are the real commies

storm jungle
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Wrong

vagrant fox
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Eldar are the real based you mean

storm jungle
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Real

gleaming gale
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False

flat nimbus
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yeah, there’s basically zero factions that aren’t some degree of authoritarian

storm jungle
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communisn can only be achieved in 40k because the people doing it arent even human lmao

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says a lot

vagrant fox
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Total guard death, the Eldar will wipe them all out

storm jungle
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"HEY, WHAT ABOUT ME"

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"YEAH ME TOO"

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"I DONT WANNA TAKE ORDERS"

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🔥

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rip bozos

opaque coyote
# storm jungle Eldar are a soup of aesthetics

True.

But yeah I do admit the Tau are more obvious with the gundams.

I always thought the Eldar were more though. Given the fact that they still love Melee. And that..

A lot of anime generally focus on sword and fist fights which is what the Eldar focus on

storm jungle
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lol

vagrant fox
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I don't do either of those things with my hands

gleaming gale
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Source?

storm jungle
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the japanese in their design is more mixed and less obvious than tau

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they are ironically prob one of the most "mixed" faction in terms of cultural aesthetics

flat nimbus
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Eldar are ‘elf-inspired’ which leads to a lot of different influences, yeah

vagrant fox
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Mildly as an aside, I was reading Altar of Maws and found the name Tel'hanzo a bit peculiar for T'au as much as I liked the character. Fehervari is washed up definitely

storm jungle
storm jungle
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Like when you think of elves you dont really think of Hindu, Japanese or Greek stuff

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its usually only just Celtic

vagrant fox
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Goodwin is just a peak designer it just blends seamlessly

storm jungle
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^

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Hes literally behind every single 40k faction's identity

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guy has a great vision

vagrant fox
lament shoal
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Do people killed by world eaters or khorne cultists get their souls sent to khorne?

flat nimbus
gleaming gale
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I should really read the rest of his books for the Phaedra arc

storm jungle
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the energy of the "act" feeds Khorne not the souls

opaque coyote
storm jungle
vagrant fox
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Yeah I was wondering but I can't think of anything other than the souls just dissolve into the warp and the act feeds Khorne

storm jungle
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they even have the dead sibling thing

opaque coyote
arctic talon
flat nimbus
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only true devotees get to go to the big bloodbath in the sky

arctic talon
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The Titans do have a mini infinity circuit but no dead sibling required

daring creek
storm jungle
arctic talon
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I'm like 99% sure they don't

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lemme check

storm jungle
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craftworlds are utopian for a reason

arctic talon
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oh my bad the pilots are usually siblings

storm jungle
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everyone does jobs they wanna do at any time, money or currency doesnt exist, and theres no police or enforcement forces of any kind

arctic talon
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(not always)
but if one sibling dies

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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then you only need one pilot

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and you shove the dead sibling into the micro infinity circuit

vagrant fox
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40k needs some proper Evangelion mechs to be cool it's true

daring creek
storm jungle
arctic talon
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Steersmen aren't always siblings

vagrant fox
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I love her ok

arctic talon
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but they sometimes are

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its not like a Wraithknight where the pilot must be bonded with a dead sibling

storm jungle
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yeah basically

arctic talon
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Its a situation of it can be the case for a titan

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But not always

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
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Can't believe Imperial titans ripped off the eldar titan infinity circuits gimmick

opaque coyote
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And then going apeshit

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Also as an unrelated note

arctic talon
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this armor fucks for a Eldar Titan pilot lol, why didn't GW keep on doing this style

opaque coyote
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Love the Angels

opaque coyote
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Why didn't they keep it

storm jungle
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I think the funniest part with Evangelion is the plot seems so complex until you have it explained to you and realise its like the most basic shit

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also like

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half the reason stuff happens is the creator just went

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"idk it looked cool to me"

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lol

arctic talon
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well "normal"

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the phantom titan guy has normal armor

vagrant fox
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Yeah it's just the Hideaki Anno being severely depressed and thinking it looks cool

storm jungle
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Yeah lmao

vagrant fox
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and running out of a budget

storm jungle
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its why the ending is pretty braindead

arctic talon
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oh thats weird lol, the revenant titan has some fucking jank on

vagrant fox
storm jungle
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as a person that owns the Goodwin concept book can confirm

arctic talon
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Aspect warriors have crazy fucking drip

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smh

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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I want the shining spears Phoenix Lord

gleaming gale
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What's the deal with the human afterlife, anyway? I saw the majority of the works just have your soul nuked in the warp, some others have some actual 'heaven' stuff going on, like the end of Imperial Glory where the last guardsman dies and his whole company waits in formation for him to march in the light, is there a consensus on the RNG if Jimmy Space pulls on the souls or not?

arctic talon
opaque coyote
storm jungle
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also we know absolutely the Emperor does not rescue 99% majority of human souls yeah

arctic talon
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othertimes your soul just fucking nuked in the warp

storm jungle
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he only handpicks like random people important in some book plot

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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ala Celestine or some bum that helped gman

opaque coyote
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Holy shit

storm jungle
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most humans just go to the warp and dissipate

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chaos worshippers have their soul eaten

lament shoal
storm jungle
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psykers are the same where they go and have the chance to dissipate but shine brighter so can get horrifically eaten

vagrant fox
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Don't some souls get ragdolled like a child-seeking pittie having a go at children or do I misremember

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ah yeah

storm jungle
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Yeah they do but thats basically "being slowly eaten" part

gleaming gale
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Saw also that some souls get attached to physical objects like bones and charms and refuse to leave (martyr skulls in the game also come to mind but those are just echoes), is that local warp fuckery or it just happens?

storm jungle
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Both

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again its done if the story needs it

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because ghosts DO exist

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it follows the IRL logic where the act of the event/murder or whatever can be so strong that the essence of the person or people can be stuck in the material realm

solid horizon
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ghosts exists ? damn I need to find a way to exploit them as machine processors

storm jungle
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its extremely fast-and-loose as with most paranormal shit

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as the reaosn is just "idk its cool for the story"

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bruh

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this is a marine chapter

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LMAO

vagrant fox
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Yeah it happens in one of Annandales horror stories

solid horizon
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ok they have cool scheme tho

arctic talon
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it also happens a fuck ton in Dark Coil

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because its fcking Dark Coil

lament shoal
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When a person has their soul dissipate into the warp, do they just cease to exist or do they join a soul collective?

storm jungle
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cease to exist

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theres no "soul collective"

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the Warp is massive

gleaming gale
nocturne crest
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We need military designers to be on the cola again.

arctic talon
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me when the color p u r p l e

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in dark coil

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or uh

gleaming gale
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Purp

arctic talon
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Indigo sorry lol

vagrant fox
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I think I've come to the conclusion that GW should let me see more new shadow spectres, 2011 was too long ago

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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The warp is like

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Pretty normal in all 40k work

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Aside from Peter’s shit

gleaming gale
arctic talon
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Then it becomes esoteric nonsense

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And really fucking creepy

flat nimbus
vagrant fox
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Annandale does it a little bit but Fehervari does it good

arctic talon
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also water

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do not fall into rivers

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or lakes

arctic talon
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or a big puddle

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anything you can be submerged into

gleaming gale
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Don't stare at the eyes in the lake

arctic talon
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The Emperor Condems

solid horizon
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the emperor condoms

opaque coyote
solid horizon
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famous emperor's children warband

storm jungle
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I get it

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because sex

vagrant fox
civic gale
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HI DARKTIDE LORE CHAT

gleaming gale
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Hello

opaque coyote
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Which makes sense

civic gale
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ocean?

solid horizon
opaque coyote
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It's not literally an ocean

solid horizon
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im no death jester alas

lament shoal
civic gale
solid horizon
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crazy

civic gale
opaque coyote
civic gale
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makes sense

opaque coyote
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You either return to it like a drop of water

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Or try and fight against the tidal waves

arctic talon
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oh yeah also the webway door/horrific prison is another funny thing in the Dark Coil

opaque coyote
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But in some cases, it might just be better to drown

arctic talon
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I think Fehervari should open it in a book

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and just not elaborate on what happens

vagrant fox
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yes

arctic talon
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just something horrific

vagrant fox
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Just have bad things happen more, do it Peter

civic gale
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if you drown dont you become a deamonhost? (in case of psykers

arctic talon
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the planets already been swallowed in a global firestorm that boiled the ocean once

gleaming gale
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Colonel, I want off Phaedra please

arctic talon
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too bad

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you will approach the weird coral temples

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and fight the equally PTSD ridden fire warrior

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who has probably started eating dead Tau

gleaming gale
civic gale
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is it true salamanders only have like...4 succesor chapters?

storm jungle
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Kinda

arctic talon
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they have like 7 now?

gleaming gale
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Least fucked up minor skirmish in 40k

arctic talon
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or 6

storm jungle
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that was the case pre-primaris

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yeah theres wya more now

civic gale
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i see

arctic talon
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used to just be the Black Dragons

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and uh

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someone else

civic gale
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cuz sm2 only has 3 i think actually

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and not even black dragons

arctic talon
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Well

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thats fine lol

opaque coyote
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If your body is already dead

vagrant fox
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that's too many

opaque coyote
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Then you just become a nice snack

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Daemonhosts need a living person

rancid cove
vagrant fox
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Sincerely

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-2

opaque coyote
rancid cove
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damn

civic gale
opaque coyote
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Also needs a whole ritual

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Thing

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The difference between Daemon hosts and possessed

civic gale
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former needs a ritual?

opaque coyote
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Is that generally the Daemon wants to take over the host (with exceptions)

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A daemonhost is a Daemon trapped within a body

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With a ritual

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One is what the Daemon wants

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The other is some Inquisitor trapping it inside the body

vagrant fox
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Damn dog, I can't buy shadow spectres. I was genuinely tempted to

opaque coyote
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And neither the original person or the Daemon want it

solid horizon
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are baneblades canonically that strong

arctic talon
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I need at least one book by Peter Fehervari within the next like 3 years

opaque coyote
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To put it in a funny way

A daemon possessing someone is like moving into a house voluntarily.

Daemonhosts are forcing someone to live in a shitty apartment

arctic talon
opaque coyote
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And also the door is fucking locked

arctic talon
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but anti tank weapons do the work fine

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lol

solid horizon
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alas my dunecrawler has no neutron beams

arctic talon
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Ultimately you solve the baneblade situation

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like you solve the tank situation

storm jungle
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its the thing with any conceptual "super-tank"

arctic talon
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you just apply more of it

vital ginkgo
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Where did the traitor legions keep their geneseed stocks during the heresy and siege of terra?

storm jungle
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will it hit hard as hell? Yes

arctic talon
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also aircraft in lore fucking obliterates it

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lol

storm jungle
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but its also the easiest target imaginable

vagrant fox
arctic talon
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artillery and aircraft make it go die

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in lore

storm jungle
arctic talon
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on tabletop you just AT the shit out of it

solid horizon
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I was supposed to play against guardsmen tomorrow but it might be emperor's children instead because my brother told me it would be no fun if he took all his tanks

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now the issue with baneblade and leman russ is that they could be helped by mortarion and a great unclean one

storm jungle
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any remaining ones would be onboard their ships

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either destroyed or fled to the Eye where they'd be kept to this day

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etc

solid horizon
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would you say a baneblade is manageable with a forgefiend and two decimators

arctic talon
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ehhhhh

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whats the board look like

solid horizon
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that's what I was thinking

arctic talon
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if the board is dense as fuck

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then the baneblade is gona have a shit time

solid horizon
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there is no board for now I'm projecting

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my brother usually sticks packs of ogryns around the tank to avoid melee

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the baneblade might erase the decimators before they kill enough ogryns

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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inverse happens when the Tau deploy their super heavy

solid horizon
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yeah

arctic talon
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They have a super heavy tank mentioned in lore

vagrant fox
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The baneblade would just run over the T'au, their reflexes are simply too slow. This is lore

solid horizon
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baneblade is no joke

arctic talon
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but its got no fucking mini

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GW please

storm jungle
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"baneblade is no joke"

arctic talon
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I want my stupid chud Tau super heavy

storm jungle
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i literally read a short the other day of a haunted baneblade

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and it kills its entire crew

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lmao

arctic talon
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thats an abomination created by the earth caste

solid horizon
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clearly you haven't faced a baneblade on tabletop

storm jungle
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tabletop

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🤢

vagrant fox
solid horizon
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yeah well we were talking about tabletop, book nerd

arctic talon
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baneblade on tabletop is ass

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ngl

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well

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sort of

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its sure as shit not good lol

arctic talon
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its too fat

solid horizon
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are you sure

arctic talon
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I'm 100% sure considering I fucking wash every list with a baneblade

solid horizon
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how managable it is in a 3000 v 3000 fight if every other guard stuff is tanks and ogryns

arctic talon
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God its so fucking fat

vagrant fox
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Where do you even put that thing on the table

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Looks sick tho

arctic talon
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You use it as a killteam board/j

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Jokes aside its for apocalypse only

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its 2k points and can hold like

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8 hammerheads in it

sacred ginkgo
solid horizon
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Aeldari & CSM-Ad Mech vs Imperial Guard & Death Guard-Demons

arctic talon
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nah

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nothing is Manta sized

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the thunderhawk is way smaller

opaque coyote
# arctic talon I want my stupid chud Tau super heavy

It's also worth noting that Gue'vesas still have their vehicles.

Although it's probably against the rules in Tabletop. Lore wise, maybe the Gue'vesa auxillaries might use Baneblades or something along with Tau mechas.

sacred ginkgo
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Close enough

arctic talon
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compared to a warlord titan

solid horizon
vagrant fox
solid horizon
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or flip the table

arctic talon
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I've seen the manta in apocalypse before

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its really fucking funny

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its totally awful but its hilarious

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you can carry an entire 2k point Tau army in it

solid horizon
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that's what I've heard of

sacred ginkgo
solid horizon
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transports are usually good in apocalypse considering how dense battelfields tend to be

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deployment is hell

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reinforcement is beyond hell

vagrant fox
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I'm oogling the manta like a pervert right now, if I had stupid money I'd have one like the chud nerd I am

arctic talon
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It did deliver the entire 2k point Tau army

solid horizon
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how to be banned from apocalypse in one simple step :

||use rad bombardment||

arctic talon
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into the enemy deployment zone

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lol

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it did do its job

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the manta is comically tanky

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for its price point

heady rivet
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And its got a lot of long flat panels

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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thats just a titan

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I want a super heavy tank lol

nocturne crest
sacred ginkgo
solid horizon
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mega infantry blobs are funnier than large tanks in apocalypse ngl

opaque coyote
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Yet again

nocturne crest
opaque coyote
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because fuck me ig

vagrant fox
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The earth caste would make something stupid like that

arctic talon
opaque coyote
arctic talon
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lol

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I just want a mini for it

sacred ginkgo
arctic talon
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or art

nocturne crest
arctic talon
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I want a Tau baneblade

solid horizon
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ratte

vagrant fox
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What is it called? I don't know of it

arctic talon
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is the TLDR

opaque coyote
nocturne crest
arctic talon
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No

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ffs

solid horizon
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tsar tank is your average 2nd edition daemon engine lol

vital ginkgo
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If only about 15% of the black legion are using horus geneseed, which primarch's geneseed makes up the majority? I've heard the black legion has around 1 million marines. How is this number accurate? Wouldn't this require almost the entirety of each traitor legion to fall under abaddon's command?

heady rivet
# arctic talon You use it as a killteam board/j

https://youtu.be/YMoxENbwAU0 You joke but the greatest thing ever done with this besides showing how muggable you are would be a diorama

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solid horizon
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and it's a wreck

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the irony

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pls jems workshop bring back wrecks

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I need my entire necron blob to be a wreck

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NOW !

arctic talon
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lol

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Statistically speaking a bulk of the black legion likely has ultramarine geneseed nowadays

vagrant fox
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Haven't heard of them being 1 mil marines strong

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Seems a bit high

arctic talon
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Also you're forgetting there's post heresy traitors

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they aren't 1 mil marines strong

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they don't have an actual number

vagrant fox
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What's that word bearers book puts them somewhere above 100k

vital ginkgo
arctic talon
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Millions is including human followers

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I'd assume

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lol

heady rivet
vital ginkgo
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And in those books it is claimed the black legion is 10 times larger

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Supposedly

fervent geode
solid horizon
fervent geode
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But then Dragan says that the Death Guard are the only force behind numbers to the Black Legion

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So who knows

rose thorn
vagrant fox
solid horizon
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yeah well it's expected

fervent geode
solid horizon
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I have my list if you want, the aeldari one isnt in english tho

vagrant fox
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Somekind of imposter marduk

solid horizon
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as for the enemies I dont have them but I have an approximation

vagrant fox
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Tamaris was such a useless SoB I genuinely want to see more of him

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Failing his way somewhere

rancid cove
heady rivet
# rancid cove

If we're keeping score, Netanyahu would be a heretic by Imperium standards. Assuming we make God and God-Emperor one in the same for this hypothetical, because the belief in Judaism that they are better and smarter than God

rancid cove
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it might be a chaos marine cosplay for the shoulder pad

gleaming gale
heady rivet
rancid cove
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ppl use it for chaos cosplay

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me included

vital ginkgo
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Does corvus corax still have a physical body or is he completely warp stuff now?

nocturne crest
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It's weird that France is the only country to actual field Super-Heavy tanks.

heady rivet
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You mean was? concern

vagrant fox
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he doesn't know

nocturne crest
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Yes, was.

nocturne crest
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Good point. I didn't really think the T-35 as a super heavy.

cinder pivot
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Tank classification between countries during the Second World War can be weird

sacred ginkgo
heady rivet
heady rivet
vagrant fox
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Darius Hinks is a funny mfer

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The Light of The Emperor short story is kind of a banger

vagrant fox
gleaming gale
raven stone
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Is it just me

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Or do people do even worse than normal in Auric Expeditions

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It's like most people have 0 concept of the timer being a thing

lament shoal
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Like idk what compelled this shithead to do that

raven stone
civic gale
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hi lore chat

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hear me out

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i actually forgot wtf i was gonna say

raven stone
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You were about to complain that 99% of people in Expeditions just LOVE to split in 2/2

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And then we wipe

raven stone
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And then they complain

civic gale
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with my group it always works

raven stone
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Even for the later drop points?

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Also on Auric as well

civic gale
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oh no we do heresy

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auric must be ass

raven stone
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See that is why it works XD

civic gale
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fair point

raven stone
civic gale
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fair nuff

languid meadow
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darktide players are GREEDY and don't know when to move to the next zone

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pisses me off

rancid cove
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oughh... oughhhh im so full of destroyer virus...

lament shoal
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Where do recruits for hive enforcers get pulled from? The planetary militia?

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The schola?

languid meadow
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pretty sure just anywhere

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from the hive

lament shoal
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Ty!

vagrant fox
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Yeah they're not tied to the schola or anything afaik. Probably just locally trained

lament shoal
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Okay yeah you guys are right. This is from the lexi page on the palanites

rancid cove
daring creek
#

So my understanding is

#

armageeddon war is endless

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it doesnt stop

#

cuz orks

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I'm bored I think Im gonna download 15 hours

#

im gonna assume its good for lore of the imperial guard

urban spire
#

it's fine

vagrant fox
#

Not so much for lore but it's a pretty decent story

lament shoal
#

Does use of warp lightning fall under the telepathy school?

solid horizon
#

There are hazard stripes on practically each single one of my minis

rancid cove
arctic talon
lament shoal
#

Ty

rocky gale
#

They goon for it because it's got a classic helmet, I hate it because it's got a classic helmet. We are not the same

paper haven
#

Since the Imperium is basically a feudalism, local law enforcement is generally performed by the personal soldiers of whichever lord or lady is in charge of the area.

vagrant fox
#

More slop for me, fill me up like that green slime

paper haven
#

I'm not exactly certain but I'm pretty sure there is more than a little overlap between Enforcers and PDF and it can vary depending on the planet which of the two is more professional.

vagrant fox
#

Slime mold is some weird shit, I don't trust it

#

I think usually enforcers are separate from the pdf but surely not on every planet

paper haven
#

The normal set up would be something like Enforcers, then the PDF, then the Imperial guard in terms of equipment and training, but like I said it can vary pretty wildly.

#

I'm not sure where Arbitrators fall in this line up

rocky gale
#

Would it not be PDF, Enforcers and then Guard

paper haven
#

Not from my understanding. Enforcers work for a local noble, PDF work under the Planetary governor and Imperial Guard work for the Munitorum.

rocky gale
#

Yea but in terms of equipment and training they would be higher than the PDF

vagrant fox
paper haven
#

My thoughts are also that it depends.

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Nobles might be able to field more elite troops but at far lower numbers, if they're willing to spend the money. A planetary governor has more resources to call upon but might just be incompetent.

vagrant fox
#

It doesn't seem like it on Varangantua but it does on Necromunda for the palatinates or whatever they're called

storm jungle
#

It depends yeah, we got an example like Munda to serve as a mold where the fucking Enforcers are armed like a guard regiment

#

they have combat bots, cyber-dogs, psykers, etc

rocky gale
#

If we're thinking feudal terms, PDF are the Militia levy, Enforcers would be Sergeants and Guard would be Men at Arms

storm jungle
#

their elite units literally have disintegrators

#

💀

paper haven
rocky gale
#

PDF are almost universally depicted as chumps

daring creek
#

the internet has truly ruined how I read pdf

storm jungle
#

📂

storm jungle
#

they are just written as chumps because it works better for a novel

paper haven
storm jungle
#

its like batman going to a crime scene and the supervillain has beaten up all the cops already

#

thats their job basically

vagrant fox
#

Yeah the grunt enforcers on Varangantua seem like chumps. Autoguns laspistols, and shock mauls

opaque coyote
#

Basically the PDFs are good at fighting against

Maybe an uprising, smaller invasions.

But if the planet gets invaded by a bunch of Orks then generally they're kinda fucked.

storm jungle
#

Yeah they just have leverage due to some more advanced equipment compared to slum-dwellers

paper haven
#

We'd need to get into the specific planets to really nail it down any further than that. Plus, most of the time, the PDF are fine for whatever problem the planet is facing. What we see in books and the like are the exceptionally bad cases.

storm jungle
#

Again

rocky gale
#

My view on it is the Governor has to fund the equipment for an entire planets PDF, meaning they get cheap and bare bones, but the Nobles only have to fund their own personal Enforcers so get better equipment and training.

storm jungle
vagrant fox
#

I just remembered their vehicles

storm jungle
#

Yeah the vehicles and upper gear is what gives them an edge on Varangantua

#

since we got examples of even a pair showing up and people getting scared lol

opaque coyote
#

Not a fucking Tyranid invasion

storm jungle
#

Enforcers serve a governor

#

Nobles at best can bribe them

#

but thats mostly it

opaque coyote
#

It's like trying to get regular ass cops to fight against an invading army

storm jungle
#

the governor is the one giving them all their toys and shit

opaque coyote
rocky gale
#

Even then, I'd fund the Enforcers more than the PDF

paper haven
storm jungle
#

and thats why your planet would get jobbed

rocky gale
#

PDF can guard the rest of the planet, Enforcers guard me and execute my rivals

storm jungle
#

then the rivals pay them even better

#

adios gay bowser

#

🫡

rocky gale
#

Not possible

#

I've got more money

storm jungle
#

Always possible

#

i emptied your vaults

vagrant fox
#

My very own theban band of cops to beat homeless people with
One can dream

storm jungle
rocky gale
#

I made empty proof vaults

opaque coyote
paper haven
#

I imagine PDF are more "For the good of the planet" than enforcers.

storm jungle
#

a person in charge of an entire nation could never have personal enforcers at his call

#

that would be super grimderp

#

we have LAWS for such things

vagrant fox
#

Preposterous notion

vagrant fox
#

We're civilised here crimes have to obey the law as well

opaque coyote
# paper haven I imagine PDF are more "For the good of the planet" than enforcers.

Generally I imagine

Enforcers are for putting down small scale protests and for doing jobs that are generally considered small scale.

Like beating up someone for littering.

PDF are against large scale uprisings or maybe the Ork spore infection is getting too unruly. There's a Chaos Cult becoming a bit too big. Etc.

Anything more and you basically have to call the Guardsmen

rocky gale
#

Reminds me, I saw a thing where a psychologist was talking about how they were more disturbed walking around Israel and speaking to Israelis they than there were in North Korea

storm jungle
#

LOL

#

To be fair its different kinds of dystopias

paper haven
opaque coyote
storm jungle
#

You can go there

#

its just strict lol

paper haven
#

Foreigners can visit North Korea

storm jungle
#

^

paper haven
#

It's not really a good idea, but you can do it

opaque coyote
#

Yeah but it generally has a lot of hoops.

Also people with passports from countries like the USA are just outright banned

storm jungle
#

as any smart man would he'd just take a visit, take the obviously extremely propagandized tours, then get to a safe country and write his stuff

vagrant fox
#

We've got all flavours of dystopia on this dumbass rock, I should take note for world building

paper haven
opaque coyote
storm jungle
#

I dont think they could have known what hes there for as is tbh

rocky gale
#

Like they were saying NK the people were generally ignorant, misinformed or didn't care about things going on, but in Israel everyone she spoke to was fully aware of what their country was doing, could talk about it at length and would recount specific attacks etc in detail, and they would be proud of it and support what they were doing.

storm jungle
#

the tours are EXTREMELY doctrined

vagrant fox
#

Reminds me that my sister went to Israel once and brought me back a 'I ❤️ Israel' tshirt and I think my expression gave it away I didn't like it much

winter pine
storm jungle
#

you have to ask your guide for anything you might do

paper haven
#

And in Israel, it was more chaotic. Although to be fair I have no idea how Israel handles foreign visitors.

storm jungle
#

Mostly fine

#

but uh

#

when missiles are raining down

#

dont expect them to let you into their shelters

#

(this happened during the last Iran missile strikes)

#

its fucking hilarious

paper haven
#

Today's forcast, 30 percent chance of drone swarms

rocky gale
#

and summed it up as "The general feeling was they were excited to be committing a genocide"

paper haven
#

Be sure to bring your umbrella

storm jungle
#

They also are extremely racist in some regards, they wont even let you into certain establishments.

#

ı watched avid where a guy is trying to enter a club and the frontgirl is like

vagrant fox
storm jungle
#

"sorry we are full"

#

the club is seeable through the glass walls

#

its very much not full

gleaming gale
storm jungle
#

and the guy just goes "okay"

storm jungle
paper haven
storm jungle
#

and im not saying this lightly lol

#

Ikr

#

like they even brutalize non-zionist jews in other ways too

#

or have Tel Aviv cops beat them up

vagrant fox
paper haven
#

I would not want to be living in Israel as a non-zionist

rocky gale
#

"I would not want to be living in Israel" is enough tbf

storm jungle
#

^

paper haven
#

Well, right now it's probably a bit rough for everyone

storm jungle
#

Again literally nazi germany

#

I mean it is

#

but thye bomb everyone then act like victims

#

lmao

#

they are literally threatening my country now lol 💀 🇹🇷

paper haven
#

Well, I'm not a big fan of Turkey

rocky gale
#

It's like how I wouldn't want to live in Nazi Germany even if I was a blonde eyed, blue haired Aryan

paper haven
#

But they probably shouldn't be doing that

storm jungle
#

I mean turkey is the most diet form of dictatorship tbh

gleaming gale
storm jungle
#

they wont missile strike and kill him unless we are in open war

#

Nato wont help us so

#

lmao

paper haven
#

After that, though

vagrant fox
#

Erdochad will resurrect from the crescent moon and star pattern phylactery he built out of mosques

paper haven
storm jungle
#

Yeah but they as ever dont do anything

#

one of the most useless organisations in existence lol

storm jungle
#

"GRRR DONT DO THAT" ♻️

rocky gale
paper haven
storm jungle
#

you'd get medals for it

vagrant fox
#

Strongly worded letter to stop fucking around and that'll be it

storm jungle
#

how pleasant

#

💀

storm jungle
paper haven
#

Of course they haven't decided on the wording of their firm statement. That will require another meeting.

storm jungle
#

LOL

vagrant fox
#

These things, they take time

paper haven
#

Trust the process

gleaming gale
#

They literally had a vote to class slavery as one of the worst human crimes, Israel voted against

storm jungle
#

man i wish Sneator Armstrong was real

gleaming gale
#

Fork found in kitchen

rocky gale
storm jungle
#

Basically lmao

#

"go die for germany"

storm jungle
#

MFER WE LOST

storm jungle
#

but at least he'd blow up america

#

and prob Bibi

rocky gale
paper haven
vagrant fox
#

This seems contradictory to your previousstatement, I'll approve it

gleaming gale
rocky gale
#

See Fascism is cringe, but monarchistic Feudalism is based

storm jungle
#

LOL

#

god i love that prop so much

#

prob one of my favs in the game

paper haven
#

It didn't work out

vagrant fox
#

What worshipping the nicest chaos god will get you

#

It's a really goofy prop I always stop to look at it

paper haven
#

They don't like it when you're wishy washy about corrupting your soul

rocky gale
gleaming gale
#

Uses soap once around the Karnak twins

vagrant fox
flat nimbus
# storm jungle and prob Bibi

lmao the guy wanted to make Pakistan the hotbed of his false flag, he’s absolutely the kinda mf’er to go ‘and brave li’l Israel is the embodiment of my dream!’

#

‘they’re just so strong!’

storm jungle
#

checks 📜

#

Defenseless civillians and hospitals lol

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

Those enter into "defenseless civillians"

#

but the latter yeah true

vagrant fox
#

They'll raise entire armies with their psr corps they can take on everyone

flat nimbus
storm jungle
#

Ironically im PRETTY sure most IDF are conscripts?

gleaming gale
#

Conscripts and honey pot psyop

storm jungle
#

Yeah the blonde bitches in every tiktok propaganda video

vagrant fox
#

I kind of hate that whenever I write Israel in google it first suggests Israel posthumous sperm retrieval from how often I've searched it

storm jungle
#

WHAT

vagrant fox
#

We all have our crosses to bear

storm jungle
#

THEY DO GENESEED RETRIEVAL IRL?

#

what the actual fuck

neon jacinth
#

Yo

storm jungle
#

caught us at a bad time

neon jacinth
#

Not really

#

Truth doesnt always sound or feel good

vagrant fox
#

It's a cool ass world when we have posthumous sperm retrieval and slave call centres

neon jacinth
#

I been preaching vs the big yahu for a long time

storm jungle
#

Lmao nice

neon jacinth
#

Is this the chill 2nd general tho ?

storm jungle
#

Nah we do talk about lore here a lot

#

genchat is just braindead central

#

sometimes we just go off-topic

neon jacinth
#

I noticed

#

I prefer slower thought out channels

vagrant fox
#

Just talk about random stuff until something lore related shows up

storm jungle
#

This place is usually more calm/off-topic now as its kinda late in some of the users' countries

gleaming gale
#

Chiller here because 90% of general chat don't read lore

storm jungle
#

LOL

neon jacinth
#

Seems like they dont play the game neither

storm jungle
#

Basically lmao

#

genchat itself is just a shithole hangout spot

#

about as worse as all the class chats

gleaming gale
#

Isn't it kinda your job to handle that shitshow

vagrant fox
#

On par with driptide genchat is

neon jacinth
#

They dont really violate tos

gleaming gale
#

Fair

vagrant fox
#

Theorychat is on thin ice it should probably be annihilated

storm jungle
#

the chat usually calls them out instantly

vagrant fox
#

I think I've only bothered mods here when that stupid scam rolls in and doesn't get deleted in a few minutes

flat nimbus
#

oh we talkin’ about the ‘seed’ harvesting cattle prods

gleaming gale
#

Who the fuck falls for mr beast gamble scams

arctic talon
vagrant fox
#

I just wonder at the schlup who has to retrieve the idf geneseed

arctic talon
#

awful

vagrant fox
#

Is this a paid job, do they wake up excited for it

gleaming gale
vagrant fox
rancid cove
jade holly
# rancid cove

Me and bro at the Waffle House engaging in honorable 1v1 after he killed my dog in Minecraft on accident

zinc oak
rancid cove
jade holly
#

You think Waffle House employees are like the battle chefs of the Baratie?

#

Skilled in both the culinary arts and martial arts

zinc oak
vagrant fox
zinc oak
jade holly
#

What suits are Shadowsun’s and Farsight’s modified versions of?

#

I thought they were both crisis battlesuits but idk now

zinc oak
rancid cove
zinc oak
arctic talon
storm jungle
#

New Outlast Trials lore time WOOOOO

vagrant fox
#

The silence the idol trial is so good, it makes people feel so bad

storm jungle
vagrant fox
#

Finally they realise we too are the baddies

jade holly
arctic talon
#

thats not an upgrade or downgrade

#

thats a entierly different mass class

flat nimbus
rancid cove
flat nimbus
#

at least Kratos had to incinerate his man in a cage to open a door!

vagrant fox
storm jungle
#

Wait

#

are you being serious

flat nimbus
#

‘oh, they’re a snitch, they deserve it’

storm jungle
#

no fucking way they think the shit Murkoff is doing is "understandable"

flat nimbus
#

‘Sure, it’s grim, but we need to do this to defeat communism’

vagrant fox
#

We're being forced, we're just pawns with no agency

storm jungle
#

THEY LITERALLY BROUGHT A GUY FROM UNIT 731 TO TAKE CHEMICAL WARFARE TIPS IN THE FACILITY

#

🥀

sacred ginkgo
#

The player character works for them

#

100% excusable

vagrant fox
#

More thinking Murkoff is evil but the reagents are morally neutral/good is a thing I've seen

#

Which I can understand to a degree but I also drowned a man in STD juice today

storm jungle
#

Yeah they literally have no choice lol

#

they go through essentially SAW-like jigsaw trials

vagrant fox
#

With relapses I'm less sure, still no Murkoff

#

And invasions

#

Either way I wouldn't call the reagents, even if they've been brainwashed in jigsaw hell, quite innocent

surreal nest
#

the player characters in outlast trials are the most "im a victim" protagonist i have ever seen

vagrant fox
#

Could just sit in the dorms like the shadowy dame and not participate in the trials

surreal nest
#

how to become the next mission objective 101

storm jungle
#

I like how its also just for us to be used as sleeper agents for the CIA, its super funny

vagrant fox
#

Don't get me wrong I think they're leaning on the innocent side of things quite strongly, but maybe becoming a scapegoat is better than grinding people into a slurry

#

Morally, maybe

surreal nest
#

if you didnt grind that guy into a slurry somebody else would have and you becoming the next slushie wont stop the next guy from not turning you into a slushie

vagrant fox
surreal nest
#

modern day sequel to outlast trials but its just people locked in a room playing league of legends

vagrant fox
#

Not me though, I'm Eastermans rabid dog

#

Gonna kill Amelia again tomorrow just for an ounce of his affection

#

Too much yap later, I do appreciate how the new trial is making people pause and realise how fucked up it is after having gotten so desensitised, truly peak

storm jungle
#

why tho

#

is the execution that brutal

#

i havent see that many clips of it yet

surreal nest
storm jungle
#

LMAO

surreal nest
#

but the entire trial he is crying and moaning

storm jungle
surreal nest
#

shouldn't have been a homeless man in Arizona is what I always say!

vagrant fox
#

The VA does a really good job

tough haven
vagrant fox
#

He's crying and begging the whole time and in-between you get comments like no one has ever paid this much attention to him before

#

“The doctors said I’m an imbecile. But I can work, I can do lots of things”

“No one ever called me beautiful”

“No one ever paid this much attention to me”

My man Bob 😔

#

Too bad I'll do anything for Easterman because I am fundamentally evil

heady rivet
crystal forum
storm jungle
#

Outlast has always been torture porn

#

its kinda the aesthetic

surreal nest
#

Saw deserves that more than Outlast trials

crystal forum
#

i dont play the game but i enjoy watching pro players run around the trials like it's a joke

storm jungle
#

whatever furry

final dagger
#

Im starting with pariah nexus on warhammer tv is there certain way I should watch the shows

surreal nest
#

The later Saw films be straight reddit torture fetish slop

storm jungle
#

Pariah Nexus also continues in Tithes for 1 episode

crystal forum
#

"mmmmh yeah this game looks easy" i tell to myself, ignorantly

storm jungle
#

gets caught in this trap:

#

🪤

crystal forum
#

he's like 90

tough haven
crystal forum
#

he was old even in the first saw movie

surreal nest
storm jungle
tough haven
#

please Gorks Wisdom, give me any content about the Tinboyz

crystal forum
storm jungle
#

probably one of the most pleasant people ive ever seen

heady rivet
storm jungle
#

hilarious knowing the character he plays

heady rivet
#

Saw X my belovved

tough haven
storm jungle
#

Bell really carries the franchise hard

surreal nest
storm jungle
#

really great guy in general

tough haven
vagrant fox
heady rivet
crystal forum
tough haven
surreal nest
tough haven
final dagger
tough haven
#

if at all

#

watch what seems interesting

#

pariah nexus best 40ktv show imo

#

but Im biased

crystal forum
#

nothing will beat the amount of special effects they needed in the irishman to make robert de niro not look senile

tough haven
#

theyre all fairly cool

vagrant fox
#

Start from one end and go to the other

storm jungle
#

what i said is all you need to know really

final dagger
#

I cant belive how amazing they look

storm jungle
#

Sa'kan the Salamande ris like THE only character that appears in two different shows

heady rivet
vagrant fox
heady rivet
heady rivet
storm jungle
#

????????????????

vagrant fox
#

I fucking hate how funny he can be

storm jungle
#

tbh you laugh because hes being a hypocrite

heady rivet
storm jungle
#

not that hes genuinely funny

heady rivet
storm jungle
#

and now years later hes just orange hitler?

#

its so bizarre

vagrant fox
#

The Musk get down on your knees and beg lives rent free in my head

heady rivet
vagrant fox
#

He's such an unfiltered ass with the most ridiculous statements

#

It's unfortunately funny

heady rivet
# heady rivet Presumably you mean in 2015 and not when he did it the first time as a Democrat

New York real estate magnate Donald Trump announced the creation of a presidential exploratory committee on the October 7, 1999, edition of Larry King Live on CNN. Although Trump had never held elected office, he was well known for his frequent comments on public affairs and business exploits as head of The Trump Organization. He had previously ...

final dagger
#

Im actually more browned away that they had warhammer tv on my roku TV

heady rivet
vagrant fox
#

I just see this in my head twice a month minimum

crystal forum
#

im gonna brown

final dagger
storm jungle
#

you are smarter than most

#

lol

heady rivet
#

Trump really is the first grifter president. He's the first guy to run with absolutely ZERO real belief system other than wanting to look cool

vagrant fox
final dagger
#

I love all people a big part why I dont do political stuff

storm jungle
#

very fair and humane viewset

#

(doesnt help that democrats and repubs are like no differnet lol)

crystal forum
#

in 10k years somebody will find the car that spacex sent into the asteroid belt

#

i hope they blow it up

vagrant fox
#

One can hope

final dagger
#

Its better off this way for me . Cause I have friends on both sides so for me personally I stay from politics.

storm jungle
#

Imma be real if you have republican friends - find better friends

crystal forum
#

mans just wants to grill

storm jungle
#

but als understandable

vagrant fox
#

Grilling season soon, hotdog days

crystal forum
#

is that a euphemism sigsen

final dagger
rancid cove
#

i dont see why not i can keep both as friends

final dagger
#

These animation on warhammer tv are great

storm jungle
#

Yeah enjoy them

#

you are lucky

#

we had to wait years to get most of them filled on there

#

lmao

crystal forum
final dagger
#

I fill like ive seen some of these characters in lore videos

vagrant fox
final dagger
storm jungle
#

Uhh let me check

vagrant fox
#

A few by now

vagrant fox
#

I should rewatch Garden of Ghosts

storm jungle
#

Garden of Ghosts might be the only 40k thing that made me cry

#

lmao

vagrant fox
#

The Exodite too for Clancy Brown eldar

storm jungle
#

yeah shame Exodite sucked

#

they took the project from a fan studio and butchered it

vagrant fox
#

Unfortunately but he sounds cool

storm jungle
#

i remember seeing one of the studio crew go on reddit on a disposable account and say how much GW gutted the project

#

what a shame