#40k-lore-chat

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solid horizon
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You love HBM because you love tech
I love HBM because I need to build guns to kill parasitic infestations on earth
We are not the same

storm jungle
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she was still alive

daring creek
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Oh makes sense

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Rip

lament shoal
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Killing orks is basically the same as having sex with them btw

opaque coyote
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I tried it I genuinely think only those who like Gregtech NH mod pack are either severely autistic, insane, or both.

Because it not only has the infamously complicated Technology steps. But it also has enemies that are basically RLcraft tier in how easy they can vaporize you from the mortal realm

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Why

midnight dragon
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@storm jungle right?

storm jungle
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the Imperium does not approve of necromancy lol

solid horizon
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HBM nuclear tech fans when they die from lung cancer for the billionth time while mining coal

opaque coyote
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Wow I passed a bullshit mod pack

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Worst part is that it appeals to some primal part of my dumbass.

Most likely the loot goblin side

solid horizon
opaque coyote
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Radiant enemies can still go fuck themselves though

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And events

daring creek
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Also.

What safety measures does say a battle fleet ship has when their haul is breached? What stops everything from being stucked into the void?

solid horizon
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They probably don't have any, just like their tanks have no suspension

storm jungle
daring creek
storm jungle
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a hull breach? Lock and seal any doors that are exposed to the void

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repairs and covering operations can resume after the battle is over

vagrant fox
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Blast doors whatever hatches seal

storm jungle
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^

opaque coyote
crystal forum
crystal forum
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bulkheads

solid horizon
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Clearly Warhammer writers have never done space fight

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
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Good luck to the crew

crystal forum
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also might i add that bulkhead is a cool word

storm jungle
storm jungle
daring creek
storm jungle
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its...

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like a head

crystal forum
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i dont even want to ask

storm jungle
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but its bulky

daring creek
opaque coyote
daring creek
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I still have never seen the minecraft movie

nocturne crest
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You know, I wonder if you could use water as a sealant in space.

opaque coyote
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So none of that boring ass depressurization shit

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People won't die from being exposed to space

nocturne crest
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You spray it into the ship to make a wall.

opaque coyote
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No they'll instead die by overwork in some dark corner

crystal forum
daring creek
solid horizon
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Let the onboard servitors go bob the builder mode

vital ginkgo
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Are custodians loyal by their own free will or do they have some biological/spiritual block that prevents them from betraying the imperium?

solid horizon
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Why doesn't the imperium use servitors in military vehicles more

opaque coyote
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They'll still have to follow it but they'll be grumbling all the way

vital ginkgo
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Ok

crystal forum
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some space marine chapters use servitors as pilots

daring creek
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If you think about it fnaf had servitors before they were cool

storm jungle
crystal forum
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also machine spirits can act like servitors if they're smart enough

storm jungle
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theres a reason servitors are largely reserved for braindead tasks

rancid cove
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Servitor pilots are like last resort

solid horizon
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Yeah but chaos use them in hell talons and hell blades

heady rivet
daring creek
crystal forum
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idk

daring creek
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Thats interesting I guess

crystal forum
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baneblades have servitors in them to shoot some of the guns

rancid cove
crystal forum
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and reload

daring creek
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Doesn't feel solid enough as a concept for me to consider them that much

vagrant fox
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A land raider went killing autonomously without a crew

solid horizon
crystal forum
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machine spirits arent a very strict definition

rancid cove
daring creek
vagrant fox
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It is

crystal forum
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it's not common

daring creek
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Ah

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Cool cool

midnight dragon
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Yk when you're somewhere dangerous and you check your pockets and realize you forgot your knife and pepper spray at home?

crystal forum
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self driving vehicles reek of AI

solid horizon
daring creek
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Have these been instances of like. Machine spirits in servitors

storm jungle
storm jungle
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machine spirits are literal ghosts/remnants in machines

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not living beings

crystal forum
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if you can consider somebody alive if they're lobotmized

storm jungle
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they are alive

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lol

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lobotomy doesnt kill you

solid horizon
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The rational mind is aware of automatas

crystal forum
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machine spirits are like if AI had the intelligence of a wild animal

storm jungle
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Not really correct either

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we have examples of normal machine spirits

midnight dragon
vagrant fox
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I don't remember exactly but some servo-skulls have unique quirks to them don't they

storm jungle
storm jungle
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vault sof terra has one

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where the skull is more or less self-aware

crystal forum
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damn dilara actually mentioning a source

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new record

storm jungle
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I always do

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you are the one going off the top of your head numbskull

daring creek
storm jungle
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Its all 3

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there isnt really a solid answer

daring creek
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True

midnight dragon
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Im pretty sure the only factions that use ai are the vonann and tau?

vagrant fox
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Soul imprints on some machines, the warp is fucky

crystal forum
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your smartphone has a soul

solid horizon
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Shove daemons in everything because the omnissiah is a lie

storm jungle
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Votann the most as they literally live and work with robots

crystal forum
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ironkin

storm jungle
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ala Ironkin

daring creek
crystal forum
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get it right

daring creek
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Concerning

storm jungle
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I just said it, shut the fuck up

solid horizon
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Didn't mechanicum use to have AI as well

midnight dragon
storm jungle
crystal forum
storm jungle
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no AI

vagrant fox
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Gav Thorpe book exploring the grimdark robophile underworld of the Votann when

solid horizon
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What about kastelans

storm jungle
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Same thing

midnight dragon
storm jungle
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they arent self-aware

storm jungle
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so no

midnight dragon
solid horizon
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Nah

crystal forum
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she cant

storm jungle
solid horizon
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She cant

midnight dragon
storm jungle
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its like calling a car a plane

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lol

storm jungle
solid horizon
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Dilara when she tells the ai programmer his ai isn't an ai

rancid cove
midnight dragon
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Youre so mean

storm jungle
daring creek
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A plane is just a extra large flying train

storm jungle
solid horizon
crystal forum
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a car is a trackless train

storm jungle
daring creek
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You're trapped in a tube until you're not. Its basically the same thing

storm jungle
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which is what artificial intelligence is

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its a program with no thinking for itself

crystal forum
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how can we define something that doesnt exist

daring creek
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Grok is ai...

storm jungle
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Because its a concept thats been thoroughly explained

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im not gonna enter the grognard territory of "erm what is life"

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If it thinks for itself, its sentient.

umbral orbit
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AI art is not real art because there is no emotion to be put into the art that it produces

rancid cove
crystal forum
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is fungus alive

storm jungle
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It doesnt think for itself

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so no

solid horizon
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So now we're bringing sentience to the table

storm jungle
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I mean

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AI is literally about sentience

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lmao

umbral orbit
midnight dragon
solid horizon
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Should we differenciate artificial intelligence from artificial sentience

umbral orbit
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a patron for a non-person

solid horizon
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Because I feel like both are different

daring creek
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AI discussions are always a flat circle hehe

storm jungle
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They arent

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people just make them grognard-tier complex

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when its a basic principle lol

solid horizon
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Yeah because Dilara is a friggin autistic nerd

storm jungle
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Its warhammer

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everyone here is autistic

daring creek
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Im neurotypical definitely

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:3

solid horizon
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And you're the autistic alpha

umbral orbit
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im not autistic like yall

daring creek
crystal forum
daring creek
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No.

crystal forum
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you're neurofucked

umbral orbit
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i jus like talking about stuff

vagrant fox
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I look away for a second and now there's ants in here, Dilara never keeps this place tidy

solid horizon
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Anyways, the day Dilara will understand that vulgarisation of language exists world peace will be a bit more steady

umbral orbit
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tel aviv impressed

midnight dragon
storm jungle
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so long Television Aviv

crystal forum
storm jungle
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kill all palanslop members

midnight dragon
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Waiting for israel faction to join 40k so it can make chaos look like the good guys

solid horizon
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Wdym

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Chaos ARE good guys

crystal forum
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modern events have me rooting for a country i know literally nothing about

storm jungle
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Iran?

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LOL

crystal forum
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yeah

storm jungle
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nah dont

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Iran is also a dictatorship

vagrant fox
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I'm rootin for Bhutan

storm jungle
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but uh i can see why

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Israhell and AmeriKKKa are worse

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lol

crystal forum
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as long as israel gets hit by drones im happy

storm jungle
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LOL

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No comment.

umbral orbit
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wow

solid horizon
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Reminds me during the big apocalypse game, our catchphrase/chant (Chaos) was "We are the good guys" but with extremely primitive caveman formulation

umbral orbit
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I CANT talk about israel and the expulsion of its culture via foreign capital

storm jungle
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you can here

midnight dragon
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TAKE A JOKE FOR ONCE TAKE A JOKE FOR ONCE TAKE A JOKE FOR ONCE badcat

storm jungle
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i saw the shit you say in genchat

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lmao

umbral orbit
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awesome

storm jungle
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THE GALAXY WAS PROMISED TO THEM 20000000000 YEARS AGO

umbral orbit
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thank u

storm jungle
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🫡

umbral orbit
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the imperium is the UAE

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and the space marine legions are like the sudanese janjaweed

solid horizon
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Dilara what's your thoughts on judaism and jewish people as a whole

crystal forum
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their food sucks

umbral orbit
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odd question.......

vagrant fox
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The food is alright

solid horizon
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Idk I'm curious, nothing ill intended

umbral orbit
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actually no it doesnt

crystal forum
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ok new york jewish food is good

umbral orbit
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israeli food is very good

solid horizon
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I like their music

umbral orbit
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but israeli "food" isnt actually theres

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its a miasma of different arab cultures

storm jungle
umbral orbit
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because israel is cultureless

crystal forum
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but jewish food can mean so many different cultures i guess

solid horizon
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Fair enough

opaque junco
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what is the stuff that they put in the medicae servitors
this is very important for my darktide yaoi fanfiction

storm jungle
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its a cell, that contains power

opaque junco
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More like the healing stuff i mean

storm jungle
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Oh

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mostly just local medical unguents really

umbral orbit
storm jungle
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like gels, sermus etc

crystal forum
opaque junco
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baja blast

solid horizon
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The smartass magi had the fantastic idea to install lights on the power cell

storm jungle
umbral orbit
daring creek
storm jungle
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YEP

umbral orbit
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that they shovel in en mass into rudimentary bomb shelters

midnight dragon
crystal forum
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zionism is wanting the world to end it's such a wild fucking belief

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and they call leftists unrealistic

vagrant fox
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The healing stuff is pretty vague, it's just green heal juice

daring creek
solid horizon
umbral orbit
opaque junco
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Yeah i always wondered whats in the healing stuff

midnight dragon
crystal forum
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and that means the apocalypse

vagrant fox
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In the ttrpgs it just mentions that medpacks contain "drugs"

umbral orbit
vagrant fox
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Take your pick

umbral orbit
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or christian evangelicalism

solid horizon
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Christ is long dead and used his reanimation protocols already

opaque junco
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Magical blue drug that heals all corrupted wounds

crystal forum
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outside israel

umbral orbit
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i dont think ive ever heard any sort of israeli diaspora/pro zionist groups out there say that

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but tbf its zionists and zionist propaganda has been so engrained into israeli culture that if you translate any sort of hebrew tweet on xitter it'll be some crazy hitlerite shit

solid horizon
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What is even corruption and why do dogs give you some ? Do they whisper iconoclast speech straight into your eardrums ?

umbral orbit
opaque junco
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really intelligent dog

umbral orbit
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nurglite disease

crystal forum
umbral orbit
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thats very true actually

daring creek
midnight dragon
solid horizon
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Themselves

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They are their own enemy

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Well, the voices in their head

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Do you think trump has a "beloved" ?

midnight dragon
daring creek
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ungodly levels of psychosis

midnight dragon
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Epstein

crystal forum
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his beloved is money

midnight dragon
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Is his boyfriend

daring creek
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"The president of the united states agrees with me!"

solid horizon
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"you know my beloved he's such a really great guy"

daring creek
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to what point would you excuse ignorance

solid horizon
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I excuse myself already

daring creek
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i think it stops at denying knowledge

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refusing to learn

opaque junco
solid horizon
opaque junco
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Throw a "My beloved says" a somewhere in there it'll pass for something he would say

crystal forum
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idk how im going to explain to young people in the 2050's that we had a world pedo ring scandal and nothing was done about it

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i guess it's like how germans had to explain why they let hitler come to power

solid horizon
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You wouldnt want your kids to to learn how military torture is done for example

crystal forum
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we're all complacent to a degree

opaque junco
crystal forum
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im saying nothing will be done about it

vagrant fox
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Between the Panama Papers and this, no I doubt anything will happen

crystal forum
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something might be done but the perpetrators will be long dead

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at least we can piss on their graves

solid horizon
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Some countries have done stuff but it's far from enough and still feels like legal immunity

storm jungle
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because the 1% are untouchable

crystal forum
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for now

storm jungle
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whe nyou got enough money you can get away with anything

vagrant fox
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Remember how Daphne Vella was car bombed and nothing happened

crystal forum
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i remain optimistic

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just probably wont happen in my lifetime

opaque junco
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I really want to hope

crystal forum
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there will come a point where the planet will be so fucked that something is inevitable to break

solid horizon
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Trump will die before it happens

vagrant fox
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I am extremely pessimistic, I see nothing good

solid horizon
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Even then they will place him on the golden throne

crystal forum
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when he dies idk what will happen

solid horizon
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Idk

crystal forum
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damage is already done anyways

solid horizon
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Id rather not know

crystal forum
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the US admin is just a crypto trading platform now

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all it does is insider trading

opaque junco
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I really want to hope some of the damage will be rolled back somehow in some capacity

crystal forum
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literally entirely motivated by it

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the whole iran war can be an insider trading deal

solid horizon
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Charlie Kirk servitor will be placed in power

crystal forum
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there's actual proof of it

storm jungle
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I remember when people laughed at me for saying rich people literally hunt poor people for sport or cannibalize them lol

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so much for that

opaque junco
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its fuuucked

storm jungle
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YEP

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People really do not understand what hedonism does to folks

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when you are bored you'll chase any high

crystal forum
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what hurts me more than rich people being inhuman is how even the working class is falling for the grifter economy

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everybody's brains are fucked

storm jungle
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Unfortunately lol

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like whenever you say "the 1%" people think you are a conspiracy nut

crystal forum
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social media genuinely is only making things worse

storm jungle
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the fucking word "conspiracy nut" IS LITERALLY MADE BY THE CIA

solid horizon
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Im fine with cannibalism as long as it is consensual and a last wish

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But the way they rich folks do it

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Just no

storm jungle
crystal forum
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we live in such weird times

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this definitely will not be the status quo forever

crystal forum
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so it will be seen as a very weird time in history

storm jungle
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yeah we'll see where it goes

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for now the most recent development is gonna be those US Marines taking that island in Iran then getting bombed to shit

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cant wait 🙂

rancid cove
solid horizon
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Rip Fox Mulder you would have loved the Epstein files

crystal forum
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DDAY 2 electric boogaloo

opaque junco
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I just want to be able to transition without like a sizable % of society bitching about it or the government going "erm you cant do that"

crystal forum
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with more drones

storm jungle
solid horizon
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So it's over, did trump give up on greenland ?

storm jungle
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For now.

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They made him back off temporarily, hes busy with Iran rn

crystal forum
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trans hatred is just anti gay people needing a target that isnt socially accepted yet

storm jungle
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^

solid horizon
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My silly president I hate wants to send troops there if it happens

vagrant fox
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They want to establish more military bases in Greenland last I read today

storm jungle
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As I always say.

If trans people didnt exist they'd target gay people, if they didnt exist they'd target women, if they didn't exist they'd target non-white people.

They always need an enemy.

solid horizon
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Blud thinks he's playing RISK

storm jungle
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Donny's hands are filled with straws

opaque junco
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This current administration is setting some terrible fucking precedence

storm jungle
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Yep

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literal nazis

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now ICE is manning airports

crystal forum
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the precedence is already set tbf

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they're just exploiting it

storm jungle
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Yeah that as well

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America has always been like this

solid horizon
crystal forum
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like presidents getting away with illegal shit started with nixon arguably

vagrant fox
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60-50 years of accumulation for this nonsense

heady rivet
crystal forum
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trump is a culmination of decades of rot

rancid cove
crystal forum
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he's so fucking dumb it's hilarious

storm jungle
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hes literally on par with a 40k planetary governor

umbral orbit
storm jungle
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like COMICALLY evil and stupid

umbral orbit
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Hm.............. How Did It Go Again??

crystal forum
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it definitely does not end with leopards and faces

umbral orbit
opaque junco
crystal forum
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people arent taught in history classes that the socialists in germany were like the only opposition to hitler

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and they fought knewing they'd get exterminated if they lost

umbral orbit
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“The concentration camp was never the normal condition for the average gentile German. Unless one were Jewish, or poor and unemployed, or of active leftist persuasion or otherwise openly anti-Nazi, Germany from 1933 until well into the war was not a nightmarish place. All the “good Germans” had to do was obey the law, pay their taxes, give their sons to the army, avoid any sign of political heterodoxy, and look the other way when unions were busted and troublesome people disappeared. Since many “middle Americans” already obey the law, pay their taxes, give their sons to the army, are themselves distrustful of political heterodoxy, and applaud when unions are broken and troublesome people are disposed of, they probably could live without too much personal torment in a fascist state — some of them certainly seem eager to do so. ”

  • Michael Parenti, Fascism in a Pinstriped Suit
storm jungle
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Remember

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theres people that say "nazi" is a buzzword for these "people"

crystal forum
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the liberals were all too happy to let hitler come to power

storm jungle
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fucking idiots

sacred ginkgo
umbral orbit
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ur weird

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ur weird get a life

sacred ginkgo
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What

umbral orbit
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chuddy

opaque junco
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I don't want to exist in this fucking clown country

sacred ginkgo
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I'm talking about the nazi lady from The Boys

umbral orbit
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oh

crystal forum
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shut up chud

umbral orbit
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there's a neo nazi forum called stormfront

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its very popular

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i thought thats what u were talking about

sacred ginkgo
crystal forum
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nazis love the word storm for some reason

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i genuinely do not know why

sacred ginkgo
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Associated with lightning

crystal forum
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no more like the action of storming something

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as in, attacking

umbral orbit
sacred ginkgo
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Oh then idk I don't contaminate myself enough to understand that one

umbral orbit
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meaning storm division or stormtroopers

crystal forum
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not to mention guns like the sturmgewehr

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idk why they love the word

umbral orbit
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because nazism prides itself on vapid militarism, and the iconography of imperial stormtroopers during ww1

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who were seen as the brave fighters who gave up their lives for the belligerent imperial powers of the first industrialized war

vagrant fox
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Nazis were and remain quite fond of sturm somethings

crystal forum
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theres also the daily stormer neo nazi newspaper

vagrant fox
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Go my invalids, children, and elderly peoples storm

storm jungle
umbral orbit
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the iconography of rousing "storms" and lightning comes from german romanticism in the 18th and 19th century

storm jungle
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also its hilarious how much people dumped the last season mocking how theres no way someone like Homelander can help install an entirely fascist presidency board or send people they dont like to prisons while turning the entire country into a police state

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🙂

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how times change

umbral orbit
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like god flooding the earth

crystal forum
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the last season of the boys is kinda boring to me

umbral orbit
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the germans making way for their own nation

storm jungle
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Its good and relevant more than ever imo

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never forget republicans mocked it saying its "too much"

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they are proper pieces of shit now lol

crystal forum
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i love the show i just dont enjoy that season much

storm jungle
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I think its fine at best

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i just hope they stick the landing

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because like-

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they cant make any joke anymore

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all of this shit is reality

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its kinda insane lmao

crystal forum
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god i hope jensen ackles comes back for the next season

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i want soldier boy

storm jungle
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He is

crystal forum
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YES

storm jungle
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Homelander had him frozen, the trailer has him waking up in his bed

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and his line is already gold

jade holly
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Any final guesses for what gets revealed at Adepticon?

storm jungle
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"Is this an incest thing or something?"
"What no!"
"THEN WHY THE FUCK AM I IN YOUR BED"

crystal forum
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literally the funniest tv show actor i know

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also most handsome

storm jungle
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uhhh

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Ork nobs for KT and guardsmen of some regiment idk

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uhhh

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solar aux i think?

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what else uhhh

jade holly
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They have a heavy emphasis on bikes in the teasers tbh

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We could see Chaos Bikers

crystal forum
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definitely wont be steel legion kill team 😔

jade holly
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And I’m pretty sure we saw a Speed Freakz patch on the guy’s jacket

umbral orbit
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there should be some futurist art of 40k

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like italian fascist futurism

crystal forum
umbral orbit
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i like futurism its cool despite its association with avant-garde ultranationalism

crystal forum
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i thought fascists hated avant garde art

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especially inter war stuff

umbral orbit
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in the sense that it is a violent, reactionist force

crystal forum
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it definitely is not most of the time

umbral orbit
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but yes

crystal forum
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it's a very conservative world view

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the germans hated new wave art

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since a lot of it came after WW1 and was anti war

rancid cove
jade holly
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Was it son?

umbral orbit
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im not saying that the art they liked and promoted to display their racialist and collaborationist hegemony was "avant garde" (most of the art they labelled as "avant-garde" was "degenerate" to them)

jade holly
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Or was it just Guilliman

rancid cove
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Guillimaaaan

crystal forum
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germans loved antiquity art like marble statues

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neo nazis still do

umbral orbit
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futurism is a promotion of societal advancement and the glorification of the nuclear urban life

vagrant fox
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Italian fascism was a bit different

crystal forum
umbral orbit
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the exact rigid comformity which the fascist governments of the era of anxiety wanted

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in this case, the classical fascists of mussolini's clique and popular futurist artists tended to overlap eachother a lot

jade holly
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I hope the Ork refresh is crazy good

crystal forum
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it kinda reminds me of soviet propaganda art

jade holly
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an Ork refresh is happening right?

umbral orbit
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more akin to, as i mentioned earlier, the popular emotional "high romantic" movements of the 18th and 19th centuries

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im not going to post any examples here for obvious reasons but you get the picture

crystal forum
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people still think romantic art is the best an artist can ever do i feel

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probably because it's a type of art that appeals to a very base desire

jade holly
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Romantic in this case isn’t traditional romance I assume?

crystal forum
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im talking about romanticsm myself

vagrant fox
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I sincerely appreciate modern art for how mad it makes people, that's the pinnacle right there

umbral orbit
jade holly
jade holly
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The artstyle I’ve always despised was the corporate artstyle

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You know what it looks like

crystal forum
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romanticism is a trend that was popular during the 19th century that promoted natural beauty all that boring crap

jade holly
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Soulless

umbral orbit
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romanticism isnt specifically about actual romance and relationships but about the emotional psyche of and the intense power of the natural order

crystal forum
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it's not soulless it's just very uh institutional

umbral orbit
crystal forum
#

there were many artists of the time who hated it

opaque junco
jade holly
opaque junco
#

Forgot the title

vagrant fox
crystal forum
#

after WW1 there came stuff like dadaism which is pretty fun

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when artists stopped taking themselves super seriously

rancid cove
vagrant fox
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Dadaism is cool, I've been seeing people trying to coin the term neo-dadaism for this era of brainrot which I'm not so sure about

umbral orbit
crystal forum
#

if you consider postmodernism to be like dadaism i guess

umbral orbit
#

its still has the absurdist, anti-traditional means of humor which post-irony humor is usually attributed to

vagrant fox
#

It's a bit there but I don't know enough to say for sure

crystal forum
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so funny though

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middle one is called portrait of a naked american girl

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it's just a spark plug

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whenever people complain about modern art i do think about this piece

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gotta love how this stupid discussion has been going for more than a century

vagrant fox
#

I'm a big fan tbh

daring creek
vagrant fox
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I'll defend whatever my pos brother in law hates

daring creek
#

What if he hated what you hate

crystal forum
#

people who want to define and constrain art just have narrow ways of thinking

vagrant fox
#

I'll change my opinion

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I hold very few actual beliefs anyway

umbral orbit
#

the age of "modern art" was fifty years ago

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fella

vagrant fox
crystal forum
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it's the price tags that people get angry about

umbral orbit
#

yeah

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but u cant buy preformance arts because the artist themselves is preforming it

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people just use the term "modern art" to describe whatever preformance art pieces they dont like

jade holly
undone elm
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shout out to that one guy who took the banana off the wall and ate it

vagrant fox
#

High art right there

opaque junco
#

that was funny tho

jade holly
#

Art is all about innovation and evolution, so why won’t they let me eat the Mona Lisa

crystal forum
umbral orbit
#

that is the popular narrative rn

crystal forum
#

conservatives love to frame it that way too ofc

vagrant fox
#

Tbh, I know fuck all, I just appreciate it whatever the form

crystal forum
#

because art makes people think and conservatives cant have that

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no thinking allowed

opaque junco
#

I notice that in general conservatives like to frame college kids and stuff

umbral orbit
#

its not just a conservative thing

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its generally just a bourgeoisie attempt at putting mockery on working class artists

crystal forum
#

there's also the fact that capitalism treats art like a comodity too, which is why AI is even a thing

umbral orbit
#

becuase you cant commodify preformance art so what worth is it?

umbral orbit
#

its all a defense of bourgeosie power structures

jade holly
#

So I’ve never been here to witness a faction refresh, what does that look like for models?

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Does every model get a new mold or is it only the oldest stuff

umbral orbit
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its predominately a conservative reaction in the fact that it allows them to dismiss systemic issues for abstract legalist morality especially when art is used as a political form of rebellion to fight capitalist logic

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anti-intellectual rhetoric

crystal forum
umbral orbit
#

i think

crystal forum
#

the power in capitalism comes from its ability to perpetuate itself without any strong ideological motives

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following the money by any means

crystal forum
#

i cant find many people who self describe themselves as capitalists

umbral orbit
#

yeah cus they usually call themselves liberals or conservatives lol

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you'll never hear them call themselves "neoliberals" or "capitalists"

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they call themselves center left or center right

crystal forum
#

what i mean is that you dont need to believe in it at all. AI came out of the desire to make more money by not paying artists and it serves as a tool for capitalism anyways

vagrant fox
young pecan
umbral orbit
#

billionaires and millionaires worked HARD for their money

young pecan
#

That's kind of just a derogatory term for leftists made by conservatives atp LMAO

rancid cove
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Even*

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Conservatives are too stupid to understand theres a difference between leftists and liberals

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They genuinely think its the same thing

young pecan
#

Yeah, not that they made it but moreso co-opted it

jade holly
#

I wonder if we’ll actually see new Chaos Bikers

#

I’m still mad over no new Obliterators

young pecan
#

They can't understand the difference anyway so it's okay that they use the same word kek

jade holly
#

Stuck in the stupid box with Venomcrawler

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why weren’t they a dual build with the Mutilators

opaque junco
sacred ginkgo
#

us vs them mentality

rancid cove
#

They only see left vs right

#

Anyone on the other side is a leftist and liberal

umbral orbit
opaque junco
young pecan
#

All I want is healthcare and no unnecessary war and good economy and not obliterating the environment and equal rights for everyone

#

Is that so much to ask for

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(yes)

opaque junco
#

Unfortunately

opaque coyote
#

And I don't want change

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I want things exactly how they were back in this idealized 1950s that wasn't actually there.

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Blinded by rose tinted glasses forced onto me either by my childhood or by people reminiscing about the past.

young pecan
#

I miss when the walls were 90% carcinogen and the women got lobotomies if they acted out

opaque coyote
#

That would imply that years of being closeted would be for nothing. That I didn't need to suffer and there was no meaning to it.

That I was hurt.

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But I obviously couldn't possibly be hurt!

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No everyone else must be miserable with me

young pecan
#

This is making me upset. I think I'm going to go work out a deal to take some AIPAC money

opaque coyote
#

Asbestos.

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Is basically a material that's fucking anazing

#

Modular, fireproof, it truly is great...

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Unfortunately it also happens to be poisonous to us

#

It's like a cruel joke honestly

opaque junco
#

wow 1970s... wow vhs filter.... so idealized guys

jade holly
#

I kinda wanna get a Memnyr Strategist

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I don’t plan to start a Votann army anytime soon, I just think it’s neat

nocturne crest
#

Okay, controversial question: If you could replace the DKOK with another regiment on the tabletop, what would anyone pick?

jade holly
#

I was gonna say Dark Mech until I saw regiment

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Damn

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I don’t know many AM regiments

#

Uhhhh

#

Vostroyans?

opaque coyote
jade holly
#

Astra Militarum

jade holly
opaque coyote
jade holly
#

Caine’s VA is amazing

opaque coyote
#

Jokes aside I think the only time Caine actually just directly turned into AM is his last crash out

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Especially the score

jade holly
#

So… I have an excuse to call out for work on June 19

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Which means I get to watch it at the preview

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Fuck it give me an entire Catachan refresh

opaque coyote
# opaque coyote Especially the score

Reminded me of the video game of I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream

It sounds kinda similar to some of the tracks

https://youtu.be/_Wrp8h7l_mc?si=BszMFP-GLkd81GVy

All is lost. Having failed with his hardy attempt to shut down AM, the last survivor of the five faces a punishment even worse than the nightmare of the past 109 years: Now, even death is beyond reach for good.

»I have no mouth and i must scream.«

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Like that particular part with it's OST sounds exactly like something out of the IHNMIMS video game

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The same orchestral chanting

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Obviously with a circus twist but still

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@jade holly I swear I am not crazy right

umbral orbit
#

IHNMAIMS is so

jade holly
#

can’t remember what the track during the crashout is

umbral orbit
#

lame

nocturne crest
#

I think I would replace Krieg with the redcowls

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Or maybe the chemdogs.

opaque coyote
rose thorn
jade holly
#

Well I had the idea for a heretical IH sect

opaque coyote
#

He likes it more

rose thorn
#

Love carries life

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The beauty of art

umbral orbit
#

author likes the video game adaptation more than his own book 😭

#

its over

rose thorn
nocturne crest
opaque coyote
jade holly
#

The whole idea is taking the quote “The Flesh is Weak” to the extreme by going to the past: why Ferrus Manus’s hands are “iron”

They go full Heretek and dedicate themselves to fully mastering and adapting to Necrodermis

opaque coyote
#

And he was directly involved in writing the video game

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Although notably due to the author being

#

Notoriously a huge asshole

#

He basically had a lot of wild ideas

jade holly
opaque coyote
#

And the game makers were like

#

"that's... That's not how that works..."

rose thorn
#

The vision of an artist

jade holly
#

Architect vs engineer ahh situation

rose thorn
#

Reality must bend to the artists will to truly be expressed

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For art is only a portion of the artists soul and mind, never complete

jade holly
#

Wonder what I’ll call this new chaos IH group

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The Pariahs chadgryn

opaque coyote
# jade holly He also voiced AM tmk

Yeah he did it on both the game and later on the audio drama.

Given that the author is again, huge asshole. He's ironically a perfect voice for him

#

Seriously read up on Harlan Ellison

jade holly
#

Well

#

They wouldn’t be chaos

opaque coyote
#

Man was certainly a character

jade holly
#

Just renegade I guess?

opaque coyote
# opaque coyote Seriously read up on Harlan Ellison

As an example:

Ellison filed numerous grievances and attempted lawsuits; during a contract dispute with Signet/NAL Books over binding cigarette ads into one of his paperbacks, he sent them dozens of bricks postage due, followed by a dead gopher.

jade holly
#

As one does

opaque coyote
#

He was voted as one of Sci-Fi's more controversial figure

And that's quite deserved tbh

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He also has some pretty good short stories other than IHNMIMS

#

God even the acronym is a mouthful

nocturne crest
#

Have anyone else seen that old animation about a hangman making the rounds?

opaque coyote
nocturne crest
# nocturne crest Have anyone else seen that old animation about a hangman making the rounds?

A parable about the consequences of being a bystander to evil, from a disturbing poem by Maurice Ogden, read by Herschel Bernardi. Shadows and shifting geometric planes lend a Chirico-like quality to Julian's animation. Great musical score by Serge Hovey.

About the film, Steve Goldman writes: "Les Goldman was my father. Creating this film was...

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opaque coyote
#

He specifically boasted that the IHNIM... Fuck it.

The funny no mouth game had no good ending

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Which isn't wrong but tt also isn't right either

midnight dragon
#

Would the qu survive the imperium of man?

haughty shard
#

chat uh

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im new

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to warhammer

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an stuff

surreal nest
#

Don't tell me you meant to say quar

sacred ginkgo
haughty shard
#

all i know about is the guard rocks and psykers are tragic outcasts and i love them deeply (oh also CADIA STANDS)

surreal nest
haughty shard
#

i did a bit of reading about the like general history of the imperium pre-dark times but uh

#

i didnt get to the part about the horus heresy or uhh

sacred ginkgo
haughty shard
#

any of that

surreal nest
#

Very much so

haughty shard
#

I think it's cool to imagine the pre-40k times tho, like how in star wars there's a pre-republic era and thats one of my favourite eras tbh

haughty shard
sacred ginkgo
#

Its just the extremely homoerrotic marine oil wrestle match for like 500 years

haughty shard
#

TO BE FAIR

sacred ginkgo
#

It basically doesn't matter

surreal nest
#

You can definitely enjoy 40k and understand it without horus heresy, horus heresy is just I guess a very obnoxious explanation for things

sacred ginkgo
#

It only informs the past of some of the imperium

haughty shard
#

the main reason I was a 40K hater most of my life was legit bc the ONLY 40k fans I ever met somehow were always space marine simps who COULD NOT SHUT UP ABOUT THEIR DUMB SPACE MARINES

#

like

surreal nest
#

My advice is find a faction and read the shit out of it and you'll love the hobby more

surreal nest
haughty shard
#

I DONT CARE TELL ME LORE and theyd go "nuh uh space marine hurr durr" XD

midnight dragon
shadow plover
#

Heresy is basically there just to explain why the imperium is like what it is, can be very enjoyable not in any way necessary to appreciate other stories set in 40k

haughty shard
#

and i'm SORRY

#

but i'm an AESTHETICS girlie

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and the space marines

#

i'm sorry but they AINT IT mkay

surreal nest
haughty shard
#

I like sleek elegance or gritty tech

sacred ginkgo
#

Sadly they make infinite money so you will continue to consume your space marine slop

surreal nest
haughty shard
#

hence why I was a secret fan of the guard even before I got fully into the fandom

surreal nest
#

Mechanicus

surreal nest
#

Fantasy version of 40k essentially but not really

#

Its really good

#

Objectively better models because its a smaller IP

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Borderline experimental designs

sacred ginkgo
#

Aos models are soooo good

surreal nest
#

Some of the best in the entire industry

sacred ginkgo
#

We're processing some dudes entire shed full of stuff and I got to see a stormcast kitbash with their armor painted as stone and headswapped with skeleton heads painted green with glow effects

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Super cool

surreal nest
surreal nest
#

What is your job the shed inspector

sacred ginkgo
#

Preparing for resale

surreal nest
#

Bro has a cooler job than me fuck this world

arctic talon
#

I just need like

sacred ginkgo
#

I pack boxes and shelve stuff

arctic talon
#

2 more eldar updates and im happy

#

Karandras and dire avengers

surreal nest
#

You collect eldar?

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Or are you a window shopper

shadow plover
# surreal nest

Funny when people realize GW doesn't price their shit high out of malice but it turns out having your own factories with self made sprue molds is expensive as fuck to produce fufufu

paper haven
arctic talon
surreal nest
#

I just think about painting and building and playing time I get my money's worth

arctic talon
#

GW’s outliers are for characters

surreal nest
arctic talon
#

But then I look at some other stuff

#

And then I realize

#

no this isn’t that bad

arctic talon
shadow plover
#

The crazy bullshit is often explained by smaller kit size, like a single model costing half of a 5 or 10 man units is because the initial costs for making the mold are not cheaper for smaller units

surreal nest
#

I dont think 50 bucks is that bad for 10 cadians. It only seems bad because you need so many, but thats why they always come in packs

arctic talon
#

I’m not at home

#

It’s bad compared to printing it yourself

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lol

surreal nest
#

Not entirely wrong

shadow plover
#

the amount of sprues is more indicative of the price than model count

surreal nest
#

I think 3D printed models look weird and smooth

arctic talon
#

Also GW stuff assembles easily and the plastic is nice

#

lol

shadow plover
#

The plastic is so very good

arctic talon
#

I will sentence someone to building a hybrid phototech resin kit

surreal nest
#

Speaking of plastic

arctic talon
#

If they complain about a plastic GW kit

surreal nest
#

What do you guys varnish with if it all

#

My skaven are chipping paint already

shadow plover
#

vallejo satin mecha varnish is my goto often

surreal nest
#

Does it smell rank

shadow plover
#

No

gleaming gale
surreal nest
#

GW's varnish genuinely smells rank

#

Like nauseating

#

Like peppermint vomit

arctic talon
#

I varnish with the army painter matte spray varnish

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Satin/matte is my preferred

shadow plover
#

though the one I use is an airbrush varnish so if you want a rattle can one, I can't really help with it. I used to use local automotive matt varnish

arctic talon
#

Ultra matte makes shit look dull and gloss is

#

gloss

arctic talon
#

I’ve never seen anyone gloss varnish a whole mini

shadow plover
#

It's a good mid-step for some applications

arctic talon
#

Good point

#

But not as a final finishing

#

Tbh

shadow plover
#

Ye

surreal nest
#

I think im gonna paint for the first time in like 5 months

#

🗣️

arctic talon
#

I kind of want this guy

sacred ginkgo
#

Femstodes incoming in general

surreal nest
#

My main army is guard and I havent painted a guard in like 2 years

arctic talon
#

I have only one complaint with the new custodes

#

No shin drip

#

Also I’d like triggers but eh

shadow plover
#

I feel the lack of shin ornaments balances it out nicely

#

there's a LOT of shit already

arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

But I want the absurdly ornate shit lol

#

The new ones resemble their visions of heresy art better tho

scenic dagger
#

GW is REALLY leaning into this yellow laser thing haha

#

I guess that's more or less their new "official" lasbolt visual

paper haven
#

Ok but why?

sacred ginkgo
#

Cause

scenic dagger
# paper haven Ok but why?

idk, but it's everywhere now, Total war 40k trailer, the Tithe, Vespid vs Scion killteam trailer, that Cadian vs Posessed animation, etc...

#

somehow they just decided to change it midway, ever since the Krieg vs Orc killteam trailer

paper haven
#

First the Steel legion and now this.

shadow plover
#

It's not really a change more so making an inconsistency constant, it has varied before

paper haven
#

But why not red? Yellow makes it look like regular gunfire and tracers

shadow plover
#

Yellow is more "powerful" per se. Red wave length is longer and less potent, but I doubt that's the reason

gleaming gale
shadow plover
#

probably just harking back to older Karl Kopinski art as the definite version dunno

scenic dagger
#

really not sure why they just decided to do it out of nowhere tho

shadow plover
#

Personally I don't really mind, and as they said there are variations caused by outside influences and variants

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and I like the yellow for it looks more powerful like I said

sacred ginkgo
#

Red las made for more interesting duochrome art

#

Cause red on black works better than yellow on black

celest dome
scenic dagger
surreal nest
surreal nest
scenic dagger
#

now it's actually just star wars blaster bolt, but yellow

crystal forum
#

yellow lasers just pack more energy per photon

shadow plover
#

Hence the quotation marks and per se

crystal forum
#

wrong choice of word

shadow plover
#

you're not my dad

crystal forum
#

thats not what you were saying last night

shadow plover
#

mommy/daddy kinks begone

raven stone
#

If it has Division Agents miniatures

#

They are going to be used as Inquisition henchmen, end of

gleaming gale
#

Every fucking thing is getting a tabletop game nowadays huh

wary fulcrum
#

I just assume las colours are dependent on local manufacturing world

#

My plasmas have always been yellow/red

raven stone
urban spire
raven stone
urban spire
#

ME?

misty vector
#

middle east i assume

urban spire
#

oh yeah suppose so

crystal forum
#

paratroopers in a modern war against drones

#

peak meme

#

the US is so pissed off that there's no feasible way to land troops in iran

urban spire
#

they should probably invent a system that can shoot down a 500 dollar drone that costs less than 50,000 to build

crystal forum
#

too late on that one

#

iran is bleeding israel and the US's supply of interceptor missiles

#

and iran pretty much has infinite drones

urban spire
#

yeah they're cheap as hell and interceptors aren't

crystal forum
#

they've been supplying russia with drones for years now

#

they have so many

urban spire
#

idk they just need like a central cnc system that can launch drones at drones, it's not super complicated, the us just doesn't have the capacity to make stuff anymore

crystal forum
#

it is pretty complicated

#

israel had a system using high powered lasers but idk why they aren't being used

#

i guess they just dont work very well

urban spire
#

they already have the technology to do this with the fuckoff expensive interceptors i mean, there's just no way to adapt that to cheaper ordnance in the short term

crystal forum
#

the main problem is the US military is allergic to cost effectiveness

urban spire
#

that too

crystal forum
#

it's been so cucked by the military industrial complex

#

the US will never truly be ready for a real war

urban spire
#

they also just can't build stuff on short notice

#

not to scale anyway

brave owl
#

who knew paying for overblown prices would be an awful idea

crystal forum
#

companies want as much money as possible

urban spire
#

american exceptionalism coming home to roost

brave owl
#

its because politicians probably own these businesses so the encourage the military to not get good deals

urban spire
#

maybe the reason you did well in the world wars is because it was hard to hit you back on a different continent, maybe americans aren't actually inherently superior

brave owl
#

same reason why construction projects take years

#

to maximize politician payouts

crystal forum
#

america hasn't had a war on its continent in over 200 years

urban spire
#

anyway i got tomato paste for my stew today, i'm so excited

crystal forum
#

it's why i genuinely believe the canada invasion was never going to happen

#

the US public is legit not ready to be bombed even a tiny bit

urban spire
#

wondering if i should slice or grate my carrots

brave owl
#

caramellize it

#

🥖

urban spire
#

i'm reminded a lot of that quote about hitler recently, that he had the audacity to believe he could go into the war bombing every other nation without anyone bombing him back

gleaming gale
urban spire
#

caramellize carrots? for a stew? guess i could throw them in with the onions?

brave owl
#

I don't know cooking very well, I admit.

#

I've only recently began trying new things and my friends made these carrot slices for thanksgiving and it was really good

#

I spent most of my life never trying anything

urban spire
#

i started cooking for myself again recently because there's no way to go vegetarian without cooking for yourself

#

yeah, stew

brave owl
#

could just buy like, vegan products right?

#

Probably too expensive

urban spire
#

no ready made vegetarian meals at the grocery store around here

brave owl
#

I liked these garlic cauliflour chicken imitation things

last stone
#

for a stew, just slice them, it's gonna boil to a pulp anyway

crystal forum
#

i love garlic

urban spire
#

yeah that's what i did last time, they turned out good

brave owl
#

I think most people like garlic tbh

urban spire
#

got some food safe nitrile gloves too so i can slice the garlic without my fingers smelling like garlic for the next week

crystal forum
#

i know a bunch who dont

last stone
#

grate them will boil faster, but I doubt a stew will require speed

crystal forum
#

also garlic is considered poor people food for some reason

last stone
urban spire
#

garlic is poor people food, which means it's fucking good and full of flavour instead of bland and tasteless

raven stone
brave owl
#

rich people when you pour the gooey dollop of slop on the plate (it cost 1000 dollars)

urban spire
#

"yes i want my meat boiled in water until grey"

urban spire
#

"yes swan meat, thank you"

crystal forum
#

yeah swan meat

#

some weird exotic shit

#

flamingo meat

urban spire
#

idk that's more of a 19th century and earlier thing i guess, now of days rich people are coming up with ways to improve poor people food

brave owl
#

fucking cow meat thats been forced to stand in one place forever

last stone
#

well exotic is only for us, it might be eaten locally as that's what is around

urban spire
#

usually by making it look better while tasting like nothing

crystal forum
#

lobster

#

i dont even like lobster

urban spire
#

a friend of my mother gave her one of those gigantic bricks of dubai chocolate around christmas, i tried it

#

it's like they tried to invent chocolate covered marzipan from first principles, but they used pistachio nuts, and somehow completely purified it of flavour

crystal forum
#

dubai chocolate is a tiktok fad