#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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tho they are modelled more after ronin samurai but still

midnight dragon
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Well I mean, depends on if a psyker could do everything a jedi could do

storm jungle
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theres no set rule for magic in 40k

heady rivet
storm jungle
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just "if you do too much magic and lack the aurapower you'll explode"

solid horizon
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just aurafarm

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then you can use big magic

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duh

gleaming gale
midnight dragon
storm jungle
storm jungle
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again no set rule for magic

vagrant fox
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Just aurafarm harder and you won't explode

storm jungle
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any "spell" of ability is on the table

midnight dragon
storm jungle
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The books have like every single magic shit you can think of

vagrant fox
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Psykers can do anything provided they're powerful enough

solid horizon
storm jungle
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Fireballs, ice powers, levitation, shields, duplicating, etc

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ANYTHING

vagrant fox
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Just freeze time 4head

storm jungle
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Hilariously enough this part of the lore is what people actually FORGET a lot

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so most we see of psyker powers is just lightning shooting or basic shit

midnight dragon
solid horizon
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psykers are just insane people but their insanity is actually real

storm jungle
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a book i read had a psyker for example whos a straightup avatar firebender

storm jungle
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How did he not die? Simple, hes adept at biomancy and his body just healed itself

vagrant fox
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Eldar used to do that on the regular

storm jungle
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boom

solid horizon
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they have plot stimms

midnight dragon
heady rivet
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Psykers do whatever the writer needs a Psyker to do

storm jungle
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since hes just a "super-psyker"

vagrant fox
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What are the chaos gods but powerful psychic entities

solid horizon
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if emperor is so strong

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why doesnt he stand up

storm jungle
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Contractual obligation.

midnight dragon
storm jungle
vagrant fox
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Emperor cast delete on an army once
Why not do it more, who knows

midnight dragon
storm jungle
dapper gyro
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The issue is that he is still human.

solid horizon
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john deus ex machina

dapper gyro
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And humans are lazy.

gleaming gale
midnight dragon
vagrant fox
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Khornes always sitting, it's a law that the most powerful entities always sit down

dapper gyro
gleaming gale
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Yeah, he was probably a mod on r/atheism and never grew out of it

vagrant fox
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Religion bad because uhh, it's used to excuse atrocities
Goes on to set the all time genocide high score

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I love him

gleaming gale
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Who else but Jimmy?

storm jungle
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HE DEFECATED, THROUGH A CHURCH ROOF

vagrant fox
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Classic reference

vagrant fox
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Scotland is just like that

vagrant fox
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Another Illuminate w

spring cairn
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it'll probably be back

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but like evil and purple

gleaming gale
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Have they yet settled the matter with the guy getting doxxed for challenging the devs to play their own game?

crystal forum
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how would they settle it

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guy got his life ruined

vagrant fox
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Haven't heard anything, not sure exactly what the devs could do

spring cairn
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not much

vagrant fox
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Write a stern message I guess

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At least the CEO is playing through all of the difficulties according to Elite

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Apparently stuck at 8

near wasp
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I call cap

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What a nerd

gleaming gale
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Too bad that literally means nothing if the balance nerd doesn't play above 6

spring cairn
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id even know why ppl even care about that tbh

near wasp
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8 is light work

spring cairn
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devs ssuck at their own games

vagrant fox
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Not unusual

spring cairn
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it's always been like this because they don't have time to play it

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they're working

near wasp
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I have a job and I still find time to play some games

vagrant fox
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I think he said something needed a buff, the lock-on missile launcher or something

gleaming gale
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What does the balance guy even do outside nerfing all guns

spring cairn
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yah but are u as good as theu unemployed guy with 1k hours

near wasp
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Yes

vagrant fox
gleaming gale
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Marvelous

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Good thing the playerbase is busy spamming eachother with the face the wall reaction image when any criticism is raised

vagrant fox
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I don't really care, I play 2-4 missions on difficulty 7-8 and move on. I just enjoy whatever drama is happening and some of the narrative

spring cairn
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i don'tr interact with the community at all

storm jungle
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helldivers has got to be one of the most pieces of shit community ive ever seen

spring cairn
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my only problem with the game rn is that after the most recent content patch, whenever the game crashes my pc shutsdown

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soo

sacred ginkgo
vagrant fox
spring cairn
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hd2 is my favourite game i can't play

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because apparently something in my rig hates it

vagrant fox
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My friend has this with an AMD GPU

spring cairn
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i have an nvidia

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i think it's cuz of my cpu

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but it didn't happen before the patch so

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swedish engineering

vagrant fox
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Yeah they fuck it somehow

vagrant fox
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I couldn't launch it for months after a patch

spring cairn
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i was having fun on seasse

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oh well

gleaming gale
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Literally 90% of the sub content is soy enforcers and SEAF chan

storm jungle
gleaming gale
storm jungle
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I made a lot of these

vagrant fox
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Truly a grimdanker at heart

gleaming gale
storm jungle
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god that entire campaign was peak

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the devs helped the community out SEVEN times with fucking extra reinforcemetns and weakening automatons

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and they still fucking lost lmao

vagrant fox
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My dear acquaintance was whining that it was rigged for days after the loss

storm jungle
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My favorite part was how the devs rigged the game to help the players and the players still went YOU RIGGED IT SO WE LOST

crystal forum
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it was entirely rigged

storm jungle
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it wasnt

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lmao

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you guys just suck balls

gleaming gale
crystal forum
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it was literally impossible to "win"

storm jungle
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no it wasnt

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people just kept getting fucking vaporized by vox engines

crystal forum
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vox engines is cope

storm jungle
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its not

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the moment it sees you, you are dead

near wasp
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Mom dad please stop fighting

storm jungle
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and the maps have like 6-8 at one time

storm jungle
storm jungle
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If you legit think Cyberstan was rigged you are huffing some grade-A copium

vagrant fox
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Extracting was important and I hot joined so many teams failing at it

crystal forum
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the factories were straight up locked away until unreachable goals were reached

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if it was treated like a normal liberation the planet would have fallen super quickly

hollow lantern
vagrant fox
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The path the playerbase took to Cyberstan was extremely questionable

gleaming gale
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It's the fucking faction capital, it's like invading Super Earth

storm jungle
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^

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it was LITERALLY formatted after the super-earth invasion

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with us as the attackers ala the Illuminate

storm jungle
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I fucking watched tha tshit realtime

crystal forum
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except the playerbase could choose where to defend during super earth

storm jungle
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they went around in a LITERAL CIRCLE

storm jungle
crystal forum
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the entire cybestan campaign was railroaded

storm jungle
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because the playerbase is moronic idiots

gleaming gale
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You could also choose where to attack on Cyberstan and yet the helldivers proved to be troglodytes once more

storm jungle
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^

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Also reminder that there was literally a Win/Lose newscast

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it was not rigged

vagrant fox
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Not sure what you mean by unreachable objectives either

storm jungle
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Yeah we literally took like 4 cities lol

gleaming gale
storm jungle
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Oh yeah the playerbase pulled that the end too

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"SAVE SEAF"

Planet doenst even have them as NPCs

vagrant fox
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I want to shake the hand of whoever made that

crystal forum
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the event should have counted kills like it did for super earth instead of helldiver deaths

near wasp
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Eagle 1 is the superior wife

hollow lantern
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Judy best wife

gleaming gale
vagrant fox
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The only waifu for me is the truth enforcer

hollow lantern
near wasp
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They use her head to focus the orbital laser

vagrant fox
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Either way I don't particularly care if it's railroaded, I don't care about the MOs, a funny story is all I want

storm jungle
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tired of these boring ass fascist victories

crystal forum
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you literally contribute more to the game by not playing because individual mission impact is fucked by game population

surreal nest
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Take the L

storm jungle
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The cyborgs and bots absolutely deserved the W as well

crystal forum
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love a fake mmo game that tricks people into thinking they have an impact

near wasp
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They are filthy clankers

crystal forum
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i took a shit and threw it in your face but trust me it's about social commentary or smth

vagrant fox
near wasp
surreal nest
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Now THIS is a reactor

storm jungle
vagrant fox
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Oh right that's what he is

storm jungle
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no moron would ever let a playerbase "decide" the course of a story

vagrant fox
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I forgor

storm jungle
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it just gives the HD2 fandom the illusion that the shit they do matters

crystal forum
near wasp
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Yeah I thought you were talking about the chick who hangs out by the tv

storm jungle
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it didnt have a narrative

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lmao

hollow lantern
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Losing cyberstan is a better narrative than taking it ngl

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Let's people rally around the concept of cyberstan 2

gleaming gale
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People actually bought into the idea there's a real GM called Joel that's sitting 24/7 strapped to his office to monitor the situation and totally not an algorithm

crystal forum
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there are devs controlling the map at all times

near wasp
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J.o.e.l. it's a acronym

crystal forum
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putting easy and hard factors on planets to make them actually winnable and some not

hollow lantern
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If I was the dev controlling the map I'd target a specific player

storm jungle
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if we took it it would be lame as shit

hollow lantern
near wasp
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I was at the creek man

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It was hell

hollow lantern
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Yeah yeah yeah I have the cape too

storm jungle
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god shut the fuck up about creek

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go and die in a ditch somewhere

gleaming gale
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WHY WONT ANYONE REMEMBER THE CREEK

hollow lantern
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Creek was really pretty

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I'll give it that

near wasp
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It was a really nice map

hollow lantern
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I do think it's cool the community Did A Thing

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But my god it was what

crystal forum
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i think there is a degree of uncertainty for these events but it's entirely up to devs if it works or not. when you're dealing with tens of thousands of players it becomes a game of pure statistics and it seems like devs really fucked the numbers since they had to help the playerbase multiple times for it to not fail immediately

hollow lantern
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2 or 3 years ago?

rancid cove
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Helldivers when you don't mention dogshit planet that they failed to conquer 3 years ago:

near wasp
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Yeah and there have been wayyyyy worse battles now

hollow lantern
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It pisses me off the creek cape orange matches basically nothing

near wasp
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It was my first warzone so eh I'm sentimental

hollow lantern
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It pisses me off that all the colors don't match eachother tbh

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Fuckass game

hollow lantern
crystal forum
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arrowhead is just shit at their job imo

hollow lantern
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Cause the community posting made it look funn

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And it was for like a year tbh

gleaming gale
storm jungle
gleaming gale
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Or whatever they say

storm jungle
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the war has nothing to do with it

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the playerbase is just a bunch of whiny little bitches

rancid cove
crystal forum
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the playerbase does suck ass

crystal forum
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even more

near wasp
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The devs give the player base too much credit

crystal forum
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and for cyberstan they fucked it up because they had to mess with the death counters

gleaming gale
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Anything but accountability huh

crystal forum
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only people doing a good job on the arrowhead team is the story writers

storm jungle
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they dont wholly control every campaign

rancid cove
vagrant fox
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Great disservice to the animators smh my head

crystal forum
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it's not a direct control like them literally choosing if we win or lose with a button. it's whether the win condition are prepared correctly or not in advance

storm jungle
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I love how its fine when super earth wins 100000th MOs but the moment you lose a big war its "wah wah wah MUH GAME IS RIGGED"

gleaming gale
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It must be Arrowhead's fault that you were given 5 piss easy orders that added some 300m reinforcements and you ate through those too by going headfirst into the larger factories

storm jungle
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^

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Truly

rancid cove
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The game was rigged from the start, Chuddiver.

crystal forum
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i don't think you realize how much it's going against your point that they had to skew the factor in the playerbase's favor multiple times for the campaign to not fail super quickly

vagrant fox
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Wasting half the reinforcements on the dumbest route to Cyberstan is entirely the playerbases fault

gleaming gale
rancid cove
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The devs

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QUITE LITERALLY

rancid cove
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gave the playerbase

storm jungle
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Nothing is going against my point

rancid cove
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a walk in the park

storm jungle
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lmao

rancid cove
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and they literally just fucked it up

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because they were too dumb to follow the most easy objectives

crystal forum
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the shitter redditors you think of when you talk about helldiver players are a tiny portion of the community

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most players just log on to play whatever has the major order

gleaming gale
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If only people could read

crystal forum
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devs are pretty much just herding sheep towards whatever objective they want. if something goes wrong it's entirely their fault because individual decisions do not matter

storm jungle
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Yeah the problem is they also repeatedly helped the playerbase both get to Cyberstan AND on the fucking planet itself

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and they still failed

crystal forum
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it's like how traffic engineering ignores what individual drivers do and instead view traffic as a fluid

storm jungle
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its okay to admit when a playerbase is moronic

gleaming gale
gleaming gale
near wasp
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The players did something dumb and lost

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Cry more please

arctic talon
near wasp
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I'm sick of watching this discussion

arctic talon
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lol

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I just want the illuminate cultists already

near wasp
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How about we talk about what kind of chair we should make out of you guys

storm jungle
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Cyberstan was promised to super-earth 500000 years ago

crystal forum
near wasp
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I'm partial to a lawn chair

arctic talon
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The 4 pronged ones with holes

near wasp
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Like a bar stool?

arctic talon
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No

near wasp
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Ohhh

vagrant fox
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Cheap ikea stool that breaks

surreal nest
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Number one issue were players trying to full clear cyberstan maps

arctic talon
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Anarcho socialism

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My favorite coherent ideology/j

gleaming gale
vagrant fox
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Did anyone see that video about cyborg reproduction, mildly funny

storm jungle
arctic talon
storm jungle
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Dont forget the braindead Chinadivers

arctic talon
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Anyways I need more illuminate content

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My deranged theories must be proven right or wrong

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Also the exo storms are creepy

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I must have my favorite faction from 1 be my favorite faction in 2

gleaming gale
crystal forum
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last warbond wasnt useless

arctic talon
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The WW1 one?

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Or the one before

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I do agree the hammer and trident one was useful

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And the leveler

crystal forum
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entrenched

arctic talon
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Entrenched is kind of ass I’m ngl

crystal forum
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most people like it

vagrant fox
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The grenade is weird, doesn't seem to work sometimes

storm jungle
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The playerbase literally laps up every warbond

crystal forum
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the superstore items are great

crystal forum
arctic talon
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People liking stuff doesn't make it useful for what i do ngl

crystal forum
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the playerbase is way more likely to hate something than like it

arctic talon
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I am happy for the people who like it lol

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but I don't have a use for the stuff in it

vagrant fox
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Superstore items were definitely better

crystal forum
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the stoker's pretty good

lament shoal
crystal forum
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the armors are great

arctic talon
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I hate super store weapons fundamentally lol

crystal forum
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extra grenades and explosion resist is something that should have been around for way longer

arctic talon
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but its whatever

crystal forum
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the cremator is great too

gleaming gale
arctic talon
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I don't like flamethrowers 💀

crystal forum
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then why did you get the pack

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it has two of them

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one is the main selling point

arctic talon
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because I have extra super credits lol

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and I like having everything unlocked

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I wanted to at least try the stuff

vagrant fox
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I just got it for the grenade and pistol

arctic talon
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this may shock you but I can get stuff and the complain about it if I end up disliking it

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the armor passives are nice but I don't like how it looks lol

storm jungle
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glazedivers are infinite

vagrant fox
arctic talon
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tbh

gleaming gale
arctic talon
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I farmed those super credits so I spent time instead

arctic talon
storm jungle
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^

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Jay is glazediving hard rn

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bro is indoctrinated

arctic talon
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Like I spent my money, I didn't like the stuff in it that much in the end

gleaming gale
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I just use a mod that points me the SC spawns because I cant be bothered to pay for dogshit items

arctic talon
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but its not like it was awful lol

crystal forum
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im just pointing out it's your choice

arctic talon
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I mean yeah

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it is my choice

crystal forum
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the sweeper is pretty fun

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i wish it had option for pump action

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i have no trigger discipline

gleaming gale
crystal forum
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people blindly hating a community to the point of fellating the devs

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horseshoe theory

arctic talon
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I don't like arrowhead either lol

gleaming gale
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I fucking hate arrowhead, I just hate the players more

arctic talon
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Its a fun game to play every once in a while with friends

vagrant fox
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Essentially, I'm just more annoyed by the community. It's on par with the freaks that watched Steven Universe

storm jungle
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nothing but a hole of fascists and idiots

crystal forum
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i just play the game and it's extremely hard to find toxic people while doing so

vagrant fox
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All votes counted, 84% turnout, weirdass result. I've no idea what to make of this. Soc-dems lost 12 seats at least

storm jungle
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Playing the game yet spreading that same rhetoric here

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h wahMOST

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"IT WAS RIGGED"

vagrant fox
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I've had it happen, most ingame players are chill

storm jungle
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unless they are chinese

crystal forum
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chinese players are chill with me too

gleaming gale
crystal forum
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a bit special sometimes

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but they have the spirit

storm jungle
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buddy is deffo living in fantasy land

fading bluff
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Man I’m glad I live in the US where we don’t have a score that determines our access to shit like housing

storm jungle
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🙂

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Dont try to go airports either

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lol

gleaming gale
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I sure love being european

vagrant fox
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I did see a lot of Chinamemes about wanting to join the automatons which was funny

crystal forum
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chinese HD2 memes are peak

storm jungle
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like tianmen square?

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KEK

crystal forum
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helldrivers

storm jungle
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Yeah tianmen square

crystal forum
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bro just hates chinese people

storm jungle
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Apparently reminding an atrocity they try to cover up is bad

vagrant fox
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I saw a bunch like this

gleaming gale
storm jungle
storm jungle
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helldiver mods are like peak authoritarian

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irony is there i guess

heady rivet
vagrant fox
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cripple this fool as well

gleaming gale
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Can you believe it guys? Steel Legion! Just a day away!

crystal forum
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that's like me bringing up the armenian genocide to you every time we speak or smth dilara

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just weird thing to do

storm jungle
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I mean not really

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both are evil things that should be remembered

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lol

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I dont get offended by it because im not a heartless psycho

fading bluff
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I don’t trust anything the West says about China

storm jungle
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They are pretty bad

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but its also a lot of sinophobia

fading bluff
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Based you mean

storm jungle
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China is also imperialist pieces of shit

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they just do a better job at it than the US

gleaming gale
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It isn't that hard when they do nothing and win nowadays

fading bluff
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How are they imperialist?

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People will bring up Tibet like the Dalai Lama didn’t have slaves at that time in history

fervent geode
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They want to destroy my country for one

fading bluff
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Which country is that? Taiwan? The country formed by fascists who fled after WW2?

fervent geode
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For the sin of existing

vagrant fox
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I don't think that's an excuse to invade and eliminate the tiebetans

storm jungle
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Yeah if you think china are good guys in any capacity you are delusional

heady rivet
storm jungle
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^

fervent geode
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They were assholes sure but that doesn’t mean they should come here and fuck us over for 1949

crystal forum
fervent geode
crystal forum
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like they dont care about the massacre they just find it funny that chinese people cant talk about it

heady rivet
storm jungle
heady rivet
crystal forum
fervent geode
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Either way 三民主义wise most of the KMT wasn’t really fascist anyway, horrible authoritarians sure but besides Dai Chunfeng idt any of them actually wanted western style fascism

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February 28 was still horrible

fading bluff
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I’m a Marxist ngl, so even if I’m not a huge fan of modern China, I can’t criticize socialist nations when capitalist nations are built on genocide and use imperialism. China doesn’t have the power that capitalist nations, namely the US has

storm jungle
fervent geode
gleaming gale
fervent geode
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It’s state capitalism sure but there is a market economy there

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The proles are being subject to big capital again

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I mean the factories speak for themselves

vagrant fox
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China is just straight up colonising Bhutan but I suppose that's alright too

crystal forum
crystal forum
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lots of racist shits barely disguise their racism as hatred for the CCP

fervent geode
heady rivet
gleaming gale
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Revolucci

fervent geode
storm jungle
fading bluff
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Yeah I’m not a huge fan of market reforms. They argue it’s the only way to develop their productive forces. Some argue that’s just cope

heady rivet
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Sometimes...two things are bad at once...

fervent geode
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Yeah if you’re using capitalism in your socialist state, it’s probably what is called severe revisionism at best

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Betrayal of the proletariat at worst

crystal forum
fading bluff
storm jungle
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spare me the racism talk

fervent geode
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Imperialism yet again

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Fucking strait of Hormuz is closed now

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Good job don

storm jungle
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They are also gonna be deploying US troops to that island to open it back up

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then those troops are gonna get bombed to shit

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and it will be passed as some unfortunately tragedy

fading bluff
storm jungle
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cant wait 💀

crystal forum
storm jungle
fervent geode
storm jungle
crystal forum
daring creek
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Does anyone even support the war

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I think everyone's first question should be why are we even doing this in the first place

gleaming gale
storm jungle
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back to square one with this guy lol

fervent geode
vagrant fox
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Born too early to participate in the war in the Middle East
Born just in the to participate in the war in the Middle East
Born just in the to participate in the war in the Middle East

fervent geode
fervent geode
fervent geode
arctic talon
gleaming gale
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Remember what you're fighting for

crystal forum
fervent geode
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The Dems just continue them

arctic talon
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Yeah

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lol

storm jungle
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i literally could not give two shits about china lol

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imperialist assholes are imperialist assholes, i dont really care either way

crystal forum
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then why bring up tianmen square when chinese players are mentioned

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if you dont care

storm jungle
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Because i wanted to post the tank meme

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is that too complex of a reason

vagrant fox
arctic talon
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Brother how

vagrant fox
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Japanese

arctic talon
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lol

storm jungle
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it DOES look pretty similar ngl

fervent geode
arctic talon
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And also its own stuff

storm jungle
rancid cove
arctic talon
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It’s pretty neat

crystal forum
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japan took writing from china

jade holly
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Gunpowder was first used for fireworks wasn’t it?

crystal forum
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as in the concept

jade holly
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Or was it actually for guns?

crystal forum
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fireworks

vagrant fox
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It's missing a whole lot of Chinese, I've spent days researching this on douyin

arctic talon
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Gunpowder was first used for immortality potions

crystal forum
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fireworks are much easier to make than cannons

arctic talon
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But yes fireworks and bombs are the first application of the actual unique properties

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Then guns and cannons

crystal forum
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because you need metallurgy to make cannons

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something that came much later

jade holly
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Was it the Mongolian invasion that China first invented guns?

crystal forum
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you can actually make cannons from bamboo i think

arctic talon
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Define gun lol

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The Fire Lance is a “gun”

crystal forum
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so idk why ancient china didnt make any

jade holly
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That big cannon looking thing held by bamboo to fire giant ass balls propelled by ignited gunpowder

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The proto cannon I’ll call it

crystal forum
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i think the problem is that cannons were only really effective initially against structures

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and you need big cannons to do any damage

arctic talon
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Also ancient China did make cannons

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Hand cannons rather

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But the concept was there

jade holly
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There’s a gun from Japan that I love because of how fucking huge it was and meant to be handheld

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I forget the name

vagrant fox
jade holly
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It was a Fuedal era gun tmk

arctic talon
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Also large scale cannons in Chinese history had an issue

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In that Chinese walls historically were fat as fuck

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So big cannons not as good

solid horizon
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Holy shit I realised just now Xana II was a reference to Xanadu

crystal forum
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anyways speaking of fortifications, it is only recently hitting me how fucking huge the different parts of the great wall of china are

heady rivet
jade holly
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The Great Wall wasn’t built in a day

crystal forum
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ancient people had so much time on their hands

jade holly
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Nor was it built equally

crystal forum
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thats why i said parts

jade holly
arctic talon
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Forcibly conscripting farmers moment

crystal forum
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the most famous parts were built during the ming dynasty

jade holly
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Honestly ancient civilizations need their credit for understanding mathematics to such an insane extent

vagrant fox
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Many hands make big projects feasible

arctic talon
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The Great Wall of China would not have been possible without conscripted labor

crystal forum
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that can be said about many ancient monuments

jade holly
crystal forum
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if not all

arctic talon
jade holly
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Really?

arctic talon
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They are buried around it tho

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lol

jade holly
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Oh

vagrant fox
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However you get it, China had plenty of bodies
If I was emperor I'd make a bigger wall

crystal forum
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what's more surprising to me isn't the manpower to build it but actually the manpower needed to man it

jade holly
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Humans make for poor structural support I assume

crystal forum
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kilometers of wall to guard

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so many people to pay

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because warriors arent slaves

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and need an actual pay

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i'm doing some research on ancient fortifications and i think a huge difference between then and now is that back then a fort, wall or castle was meant to be included in daily life

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you'd build a wall that would be used by your children's children

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you dont see that with shit like bunkers

vagrant fox
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I do find it funny that by the time of the famous mongol invasions big parts of the wall were so neglected they just went through

arctic talon
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Tbh not enough manpower or money to maintain it

vagrant fox
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Guess it worked for a while though

arctic talon
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lol

crystal forum
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happened to the french before WW2

arctic talon
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Also the whole “no one would be stupid enough to attack” attitude

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That was growing

crystal forum
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the whole idea of fortifications is more about deterrent than actual combat effectiveness

jade holly
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The fun comes in when armies build fortifications to siege fortifications

crystal forum
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the great wall's different parts served well to stop roaming bands of attackers

jade holly
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And then reinforcements build another fortification around that fortification so you siege a siege

arctic talon
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Tbf sieging the Great Wall is a bad idea

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Unless you’ve already gotten past it lol

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You will literally make 0 progress

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Assuming the section was manned and maintained

crystal forum
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i dont think it's really possible to siege the wall itself

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since you'd need to control both sides

arctic talon
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Yeah

crystal forum
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it's not really a siege if you're just blocking one side

jade holly
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IW are just inspired by industrialization right? No specific country?

arctic talon
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Greeks

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And Roman’s

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But they’re more Greek

crystal forum
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did you guys know that ancient egypt had castles

arctic talon
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Yes

crystal forum
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i didn't know that before recently

arctic talon
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Ancient Egypt is so long

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lol

vagrant fox
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Iirc the wall was supposed to funnel attackers into easily defensible areas wasn't it, I remember it sounding difficult to get through

arctic talon
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Which worked when it was manned and maintained

vagrant fox
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Too bad for the Jin

arctic talon
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Skill issue

celest cedar
storm jungle
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Whos gonna tell em

jade holly
crystal forum
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this was build in ancient egypt

vagrant fox
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There's that oldass Egyptian fort that bordered Sudan I found impressive

jade holly
# celest cedar

I love the Black Dragons successor chapter of the Salamanders

crystal forum
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notice how angular it is

jade holly
arctic talon
crystal forum
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idk why they didnt make rounded outer walls

arctic talon
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Aesthetic?

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Wasn’t an idea in their head yet

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Idfk

vagrant fox
crystal forum
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this makes them much weaker to projectiles

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corners are easier to hit head on

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also

arctic talon
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They probably didn’t know

storm jungle
arctic talon
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I’m ngl

storm jungle
crystal forum
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they had a really genius idea for arrow slits

arctic talon
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Which isn’t a detriment to their like idea

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But they deadass might have not known yet

jade holly
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Babylon is prob my favorite ancient civilization

arctic talon
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Science and construction is iterative

lament shoal
crystal forum
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they would have 3 holes in an arrow slit at different angles to allow an archer to shoot in the direction of his choosing

arctic talon
crystal forum
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you cant see it on the image

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but i found it pretty smart

vagrant fox
crystal forum
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also the whole structure is under a lake now

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because egypt built a dam

crystal forum
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also most of the walls arent actually stone

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they're dried mud

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the foundation is granite for stability

vagrant fox
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I don't remember when that fort was from but it might be angular in part because of limitations on their construction material

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Ah yeah mud bricks

crystal forum
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personally i think it's angular because they didnt have trebuchets back then so they didnt care about large projectiles

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plus angular buildings are cheaper to build

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and offer more floorspace inside

vagrant fox
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Shooting along the walls between the er, towers or whatever was possibly a plus in that era of sieges

jade holly
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Are there any factions in 40K heavily inspired by Babylon?

storm jungle
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Not really

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what even is bablyon's aesthetic

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lol

midnight dragon
vagrant fox
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Ziggurats I guess

jade holly
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Here’s the Hanging Gardens if that helps

storm jungle
arctic talon
storm jungle
vagrant fox
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Maybe didn't exist either

arctic talon
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Chorfs are Babylonian

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Vaguely

jade holly
midnight dragon
storm jungle
jade holly
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Rip

storm jungle
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lol

arctic talon
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Not height

crystal forum
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something i noticed is that medieval castles would try to cute corners by making polygonal towers to have the benefits of circular towers while keeping it cheaper

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and you know what else uses this method

arctic talon
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Did that even work

jade holly
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As in they don’t have one?

arctic talon
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We dunno

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They do have one

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They’re just sterile

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And have no sex drive

heady rivet
storm jungle
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keep up

crystal forum
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WW2 era german flak towers

jade holly
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We talk about only the most refined lore in 40K

crystal forum
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look you can see it's polygonal

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not fully round

solid horizon
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Geneseed generator

heady rivet
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I think ogryns are like great apes where they are huge but their genitals are tiny

storm jungle
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LMAO

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to be fair

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you can say that about most flaccid genitals tbh

vagrant fox
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I do find it cool that parts of ancient egypt was so long ago they had to use sand as an abrasive to cut out granite because copper tools was too soft
The time it took just to put up a slab honouring some inbred yokel

heady rivet
storm jungle
solid horizon
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Is it me or there is barely any difference between servitors and skitarii

storm jungle
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just you

jade holly
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Just

storm jungle
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literally zero connection besides both are cyborgs

solid horizon
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Ok, now define the differences

storm jungle
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One is a lobotomized servo slave made to function for any menial role

solid horizon
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They're both brainwashed

crystal forum
storm jungle
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the other is a cyborg warrior unit

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that are the admech's main army

solid horizon
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So a glorified servitor

storm jungle
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no

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lol

solid horizon
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Robocop then

storm jungle
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💀

crystal forum
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i dont really understand what took so long for people to understand that iron is pretty easy to smelt

heady rivet
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Space marine with a cybernetic arm and I ask if he's a servitor and he cruhses my head like an empty coke can

storm jungle
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Lmao

solid horizon
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Space Marines and skits are quite different though

vagrant fox
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What's the difference between a lobotomised cyborg for slave labour and a cyborg who can think and is a holyish soldier

storm jungle
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idk you tell me

storm jungle
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literally what you are asking rn

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they got zero connection besides being cyborgs

solid horizon
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They can think but what's even the purpose when all they do is on command

storm jungle
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same reason we got soldiers today

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dont question, just kill

solid horizon
crystal forum
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civil engineering is boring as fuck but man is it old

storm jungle
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it entirely depends on the techpriest leading them

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some skits are normal people

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others are entirely brainwashed and hardwired slaves

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it depends from forgeworld to forgeworld

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its to allow people to homebrew

rancid cove
vagrant fox
solid horizon
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I like my skits completely brainwashed

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Are we not cyborgs

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We stand on hid cybernetic legs

storm jungle
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We dont have bionics so no

heady rivet
solid horizon
storm jungle
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Old reference

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straight to the pits

solid horizon
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Stfu bitch

storm jungle
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no

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anyway, explode

solid horizon
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Keep yapping then

solid horizon
solid horizon
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Come on island of dr moreau isn't that old

midnight dragon
fading bluff
storm jungle
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They arent non-functional its more that marines dont really have any thougth for sex

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you can prob teach one to do it lol

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but its only useful if they are with a rogue trader or something obviously

solid horizon
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Fabius Bile activities

fading bluff
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There are disturbing stories implying that Emperor’s Children regularly use their sex organs

storm jungle
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just like real life

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I mean uh

storm jungle
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yeah very horrifying

rancid cove
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really

storm jungle
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^

crystal forum
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real question is does the dick stay the same size as when they were still human

storm jungle
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Its either that, or being pasted into drugs

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or eaten alive

heady rivet
storm jungle
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we got a model of naked titus

solid horizon
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Oh no thousand sons use their brains

storm jungle
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bro is packing

crystal forum
rancid cove
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As much as I don'treally like it, sex is like the biggest aesthetic Slaneesh is known for

solid horizon
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Oh no world eaters use their muscles

rancid cove
opaque coyote
# crystal forum i dont really understand what took so long for people to understand that iron is...

It is partially because the melting point was too much for ancient furnaces.

Bronze is around 950 Celsius (1742 Fahrenheit)

While Iron is around 1500 Celsius (2730 Fahrenheit) to melt.

Although it could be lowered down to 1150 Celsius - 1300 Celsius by adding carbon or other impurities to make cast iron.

It only got discovered that was usable for smelting when furnaces became hot enough to smelt it.

solid horizon
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Right ?

rancid cove
storm jungle
opaque coyote
rancid cove
storm jungle
heady rivet
daring creek
storm jungle
midnight dragon
solid horizon
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Titus has no tits

opaque coyote
rancid cove
solid horizon
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This is what I call a lie

storm jungle
vagrant fox
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God forbid a dude has his thang out in public

storm jungle
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im more shocked that they modelled it

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LMAO

crystal forum
solid horizon
heady rivet
solid horizon
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Purposes

rancid cove
solid horizon
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Space Marines balls

storm jungle
solid horizon
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Bottom text

daring creek
solid horizon
heady rivet
solid horizon
daring creek
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No u not

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You're dead.

vagrant fox
rancid cove
daring creek
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Pigeons

solid horizon
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If someone can answer our questions on space dongs it's good ole Bile

heady rivet
storm jungle
storm jungle
heady rivet
solid horizon
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Pls Fabius Bile trade me an android ive been a nice warpsmith

vital ginkgo
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What individual being or type of being is a rough equal to abaddon in power? A custodian? Primarch?

solid horizon
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Bile I need this, my magos is kinda forgeless

storm jungle
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or Chapter Masters of founding legions

vagrant fox
heady rivet
storm jungle
vital ginkgo
storm jungle
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because they got plot armor

heady rivet
vital ginkgo
storm jungle
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and we've seen it happen on Vigilus

storm jungle
heady rivet
storm jungle
heady rivet
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Was that him or

daring creek
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Pelvis broken. Wheel chair maxxing

vital ginkgo
vagrant fox
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Abaddon bodied a custodes, would draw with Dante
Thems the rules

solid horizon
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Didn't Abbadon have a 1v1 with Calgar at some point

fading bluff
vital ginkgo
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What is the age of an average custodian?

storm jungle
daring creek
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25 cuz 25 is old

storm jungle
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they are all like at least a century old

daring creek
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Basically 25

arctic talon
fading bluff
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The Aztec Empire also had metallurgy and produced a copper axe as well as jewelry

vagrant fox
storm jungle
#

arent Incans from Agartha?

solid horizon
#

No

storm jungle
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Yes

vital ginkgo
daring creek
fervent geode
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They built Hyperborea smh

opaque coyote
# crystal forum i've seen what it takes to make medieval blast furnaces. im just wondering how p...

Advancements in automation basically. Bloomeries did exist but iron wasn't strong enough to be considered worth it at the time. All they could produce was mostly cast iron and that was worthless.

Bronze is also better than just iron in every way for most purposes. At least back then. The only advantage is that it's more abundant.

It's also worth noting that people probably found out copper smelting by accidentally leaving a copper rock in while making pots.

So it needed people to figure out the possibility, and even after they figured out how to melt iron. They needed to make it either forged well enough to be worth using over bronze or if the bronze supply ran out.

solid horizon
#

You might be mistaken with nordic aliens

fading bluff
#

One day Tupac will return to drive the Spanish into the ocean

opaque coyote
lament shoal
#

Charlie Kirk will return someday to gather all the true believers and take them to Agartha

storm jungle
#

get with the times

opaque coyote
#

So people preferred bronze

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Iron was considered basically cheap

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And also too much work for something absolutely mid

solid horizon
daring creek
opaque coyote
storm jungle
solid horizon
#

Stone Dilara

storm jungle
#

play Voltz

daring creek
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Voltz??

solid horizon
#

Right now

storm jungle
#

you can shoot missiles at people

vagrant fox
daring creek
#

Thats a mod.

#

You're talking modded minecraft

storm jungle
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Yeah I just said it is

solid horizon
#

Bronze existed most famously in galacticraft

storm jungle
#

Missus i think you got minedentia.....

solid horizon
#

Know your classics better lass

opaque coyote
fading bluff
#

Absolute unit. Also, the Quechua developed line warfare tactics and even defeated the Spanish in multiple battles, stealing and reverse engineering guns at one point, but the Spanish took advantage of their political rivalries

lament shoal
#

I gotta watch the fast and furious movies tbh, never got the chance to

daring creek
#

If bronze is in minecraft so is pikachu

opaque coyote
storm jungle
opaque coyote
daring creek
#

Me when I catch a lopunny in minecraft..

solid horizon
#

I have made a mod that has bronze but currently you cant craft it because im ogrynbrained and tags are dumb

fading bluff
#

My brainrot is so bad that when studying for my nutrition class I think “what the fuck kind of enzyme is this?”

lament shoal
daring creek
#

Ok a minecraft mod I actually wanna play is the one where you're dead in the desert and need to ration water

storm jungle
#

hell nah

crystal forum
#

people take for granted how good we have learned to make steel

daring creek
#

That one sounded cool as fuck

opaque coyote
solid horizon
#

Bruh

daring creek
#

That one is really interesting to me

opaque coyote
solid horizon
#

Scotched Guns

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Scorched

opaque coyote
#

Fucking COLLEGGEEE

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RAAAAGGHHH

crystal forum
midnight dragon
#

Ok so a soldier says

  • this is my rifle this is my gun, this is for shootin and this is for fun

So what does a ork say?

  • dis is my shoota this is my dakka, this is for shootin and this is for spores
solid horizon
#

It's partly loosely vaguely inspired by hunt showdown and Bioshock

opaque coyote
storm jungle
crystal forum
#

idk i never played factorio because it never fucking goes on sale

vagrant fox
opaque coyote
solid horizon
#

From experence, guns aren't exactly very accessible to the humble beginner coder

storm jungle
midnight dragon
fading bluff
daring creek
solid horizon
opaque coyote
fading bluff
solid horizon
midnight dragon
fading bluff
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So I changed it to something I actually enjoy

heady rivet
lament shoal
daring creek