40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

Even if they found a forerunner super weapon

But that's why I actually kinda liked them

Because they're unreasonable, rabid, and desperate

A different danger from the covenant

They're a terrorist cell

So of course Halo 5 threw that away

At least half of 343's good ideas ended with

"and then Halo 5 threw that away"

[arctic talon]

Halo 5 went through 3 rewrites lol

And inifnite went through 3

[opaque coyote]

And Halo 3 had the worst story of the originals

COINCIDENCE???

I think not

[arctic talon]

Tbh

3 is the shittiest because of Marty

lol

He also is who killed both johnson and miranda

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Johnson dying made sense to me

Because despite how much I love the mf

He really didn't have that much depth

[arctic talon]

him dying is fine

Miranda dying is stupid

[opaque coyote]

Miranda is confusing though

[arctic talon]

lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

She's written like shit in 3

[opaque coyote]

Like why

[arctic talon]

next question

its marty

[opaque coyote]

But anyways, I hope the Halo 1 remake goes well

Includes some things from the books and stuff

[arctic talon]

we're getting playable johnson in the prequal missions

lol

or something

[opaque coyote]

That would be interesting

But fucking where

Reach??

It makes sense if it was in-between missions

Where it's areas where Chief wasn't at

Like the UNSC had an entire offensive against the covenant that Chief wasn't a part of on the ring

[opaque coyote]

Also if they don't have the Energy Sword be a usable weapon

I will be disappointed

People literally wanted that so badly that Halo 2 added it

[paper haven]

Halo 5 really kind of threw everything off the rails it's nuts

[opaque coyote]

And tbf the Elite Energy Sword is genuinely like

Only second to the Lightsaber in terms of iconic scifi swords

[arctic talon]

Halo 5 honestly was a good game gameplay wise in MP

lol

Warzone is by far one of the best multiplayer things ever made

[opaque coyote]

Halo 5 MP was fun

Halo 5 campaign is just bad in every single department

Story

Gameplay

[paper haven]

Johnson was like 80 in Halo 1

[arctic talon]

yes

[opaque coyote]

It really astonishes me how badly they fucked up

[arctic talon]

They rewrote it 3 times

lol

[opaque coyote]

I know but like

After 3 rewrites that was their best

Well not their best

[arctic talon]

it wasn't

[opaque coyote]

That was their FINAL product?

[arctic talon]

the 343 team liked the 2nd rewrite the most

but the execs didn't like it

lol

[paper haven]

I haven't played Halo infinite, I honestly have no idea if it fixes or retcons anything

[opaque coyote]

Of fucking course

[opaque coyote]

It literally just ignores it

[arctic talon]

It doesn't retcon anything, it plays like Halo reach the most

it mostly ignores Halo 5

lol

[paper haven]

Smart

[arctic talon]

Also

[opaque coyote]

Only thing it does acknowledge is Cortana

[arctic talon]

the story is like

pretty good

[opaque coyote]

But even then it's because they had to

[arctic talon]

its better then Halo 3

bar is on the floor

but its above the bar

[opaque coyote]

I do agree tbh.

[arctic talon]

its better then Halo 5's story as well

[opaque coyote]

I like Master Chief being human

[arctic talon]

and 4

lol

[paper haven]

Cortana is as central to halo as John

[opaque coyote]

As somebody who reads the books

Tragic I know

[paper haven]

She was the personality

[arctic talon]

we got joyeuse

whos a good replacement

(imo)

[paper haven]

I like that they made John's flat personality a result of the Spartan program, I thought that was clever and gave him room to grow

[opaque coyote]

Him affirming when Echo 216 asked "Have you ever been afraid of something?"

It genuinely made me happy since canonically John Halo was actually scared by the Flood

[paper haven]

To be fair the Flood are fucking terrifying

[opaque coyote]

Like that was genuinely one of the few times he has felt mortal fear

Chief also canonically almost got infected

Cortana saved him by overloading the suit

And electrocuting the mf parasite to dust

[paper haven]

I thought his altered physiology made him immune to flood infection

[arctic talon]

its so funny how there's a flood easter egg in infinite

[arctic talon]

No

[opaque coyote]

It's his energy shield

[arctic talon]

it was a theory in universe

but it was unconfirmed

[paper haven]

Ah ok

[arctic talon]

ONI decided to nab some cells from Spartans and run tests

Spartans are in fact infectible by the Flood

which is when they introduced the guillotine protocol lol

[paper haven]

This was back when Johnson's flood immunity was because he had plasma grenade cancer

[opaque coyote]

It's also why the little Flood Infection Forms basically explode when they jump at you with your shields on.

It literally vaporizes them

[arctic talon]

Johnson is still like that

whenever there's a chance of flood infection Spartan gear is modified to blow their heads off in the event of infection or with a manual activation lol

[paper haven]

Yeah but now it's because he was a Spartan 1

[arctic talon]

Which I think is some fun flavor

"yeah your helmet will blow your spine up and blow your head up in the event of infection"

[opaque coyote]

Also as a side tangent my favorite in the flood level is that there's some environmental story telling of a bunch of covenant and Marines teaming up against the flood

[arctic talon]

Thanks ONI

[opaque coyote]

You can find their dead bodies next to each other

[arctic talon]

Made for special forward observation teams operating in quarantine zones, failsafe charges in the Gallows VISR will destroy the helmet (and everything in it) in case of compromise.

[paper haven]

I always found that so tragic

[opaque coyote]

Which btw also kinda failed since a Spartan still got infected and they had to nuke the area

[arctic talon]

well yeah

Mona Lisa is a fuck around and find out moment

for the UNSC

[opaque coyote]

Dude that comic is great

[arctic talon]

break protcol repeatedly and pay the price lol

[opaque coyote]

Genuinely one of my favorites

[arctic talon]

Same with Saturn Devouring His Son

[paper haven]

Zero fucking around should be happening where the Flood is involved

[arctic talon]

Yeah well humans are idiots

They always think they know better

[paper haven]

In fact, I would prefer the fuck around metric be in the negative

[arctic talon]

Anyways yeah there's an infected spartan running around now

in a condor

[opaque coyote]

The Shipmaster also canonically was the only survivor after he and his crew went into a flood infected ship to save a prophet

[arctic talon]

which is slip space capable

[opaque coyote]

He had to battle one of the best Elite Duelists

Possessed by the flood

[paper haven]

Shoot all ONI agents on sight

[opaque coyote]

That's also why he wanted to glass Earth

When he learned a flood ship dropped

He experienced it first hand

[arctic talon]

but there's an active flood outbreak now lol

in the halo galaxy

[paper haven]

Honestly, I agree with the Shipmaster here

[arctic talon]

the shipmaster made the right decision in glassing half of africa

💀

[paper haven]

Glass earth

[arctic talon]

Also they do aknowledge stuff from Halo 5 in infinite, but only in the waypoint posts and MP stuff

lol

[paper haven]

Sorry earth, zero flood spores can be allowed to exist

[arctic talon]

Anyways its time for the Prometheans to do what they were designed to do

murder the flood

[opaque coyote]

They better update their nuclear codes and shit because the reason why everyone is scared shitless at a Spartan becoming infected is not necessarily due to them being Spartans. Although that sucks.

It's mainly due to the knowledge they store

Y'know a bunch of severe secrets, nuclear launch codes

That type of shit

[arctic talon]

Yeah

well no one fucking knows

anyone who knows a spartan got infected is infected or dead

the only people who know now are the Created(the AI rebellion), and some people stuck on a planet

[paper haven]

Yeah, Spartans are basically human top secret encyclopedias

[arctic talon]

with a Flood outbreak now

lol

so they're fucked

unless the Created decide to intervene via Prometheans lol

[paper haven]

Gravemind looking at John like he's a library

[opaque coyote]

My hottest take is that the created wasn't a bad idea at all

[arctic talon]

it was litearlly fine as an idea

tbh

[opaque coyote]

It was just that Cortana was the leader and how they ascended

[opaque coyote]

Reach did have a bunch of hidden tapes detailing what's basically a hidden AI illumanti-like cabal

I actually found it interesting

[paper haven]

Also the Flood can infect ai which feels like cheating

[opaque coyote]

I think the best part is how they don't know everything

[arctic talon]

oh hey speaking of Halo Infinite

there were gona be prometheans lol

vs banished

[opaque coyote]

Cause they're still working within human servers and all that. So the secret AI cabal

Fucking panicked once they realized that ALIENS EXIST

And then panicked even harder when they realized they wanted to murder the entirety of humanity

Because they still cared about humanity

Most of them were humans after all.

Smart AI moment

[opaque coyote]

But it's also funny because usually a secret society type of thing usually knows everything in conspiracy theories when that would logically

...

Not be the case

So it's funny to read a bunch of super intelligent ais basically be like

"OKAY SO ALIENS EXIST. DON'T PANIC GUYS, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO!"

https://www.halopedia.org/Data_pads

Here they are btw

Probably not canon anymore

But I kinda hope they still exist

[cerulean trellis]

issat a kid misspronouncing the name? or a very thirsty person?

[gleaming gale]

(Yes, it's mispronouncing)

[opaque coyote]

"Hey guys."

"MAGNET THE RED!"

"THAT IS NOT MY NAME!"

And finally

"Hey guys!"

"IRON HAND!"

"Yeah?"

[paper haven]

Ok that made me laugh

[opaque coyote]

I find the funniest part is that Fulgrim continues trying to clone him

[cerulean trellis]

low blow to iron hands players

[opaque coyote]

To see if he would join

And each clone just said

"No fuck off"

It's both hilarious and sad

[gleaming gale]

I'm sure the two of them are sending me death threats rn

[paper haven]

Ferrus is nothing if not consistent

[opaque coyote]

Hilarious because I'm just imagining Fulgrim being like

"Dude, join me. You could to-"

"no."

"but I'm not even-"

"no."

[paper haven]

Well yeah, high blows would just miss

[opaque coyote]

reenacts the first time

"CLONE ANOTHER ONE"

Still sad because it's him basically trying to justify his own shitty decisions

And that his best friend would've joined him

But he knows deep down that Ferrus would've fought him no matter what

[gleaming gale]

Clone Fulgrim is more Fulgrim than the current Fulgrim will ever be

[paper haven]

He probably should have taken the repeated refusals as a sign that he was wrong

[opaque coyote]

Nah he just

Doesn't get it

Clearly

He just needs to try

One. More. Time.

[gleaming gale]

Needs another Rylanor incident to humble him

[opaque coyote]

Basically it's him coping hard

[opaque coyote]

That must have happened at least once from some guardsman

Like he appears menacingly from a chaotic portal and some guardsman is like

"HOLY SHIT IT'S ABORTION THE DESTROYER OF CHILDREN!"

[storm jungle]

what is peoples obsession with clone Fulgrim lmao

[gleaming gale]

Just wasted potential because he'll never wash out of Trazyn's pokeball lol

[storm jungle]

We got enough primarch slop as it is, who cares about another one

[paper haven]

If Fulgrim had a nickel for every time someone he respected told him to fuck off to the point of dying he would have two nickels, which isn't much but it's strange that it happened twice.

[opaque coyote]

The idea of current Fulgrim facing his past self and how his past self is inherently disgusted by his own actions.

Also people love Primarch slop

[gleaming gale]

I mean GW is not turning back from herohammer and making 40k Horus Heresy 2.0

Might as well hop on the upcoming trainwreck

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

[storm jungle]

Yeah, so we still dont need more. We got enough.

Another generic good guy loyalist

[storm jungle]

If you want that go read fanfiction

[paper haven]

GW saw how successful Horus heresy was but don't understand why

[storm jungle]

They do.

Space Marines and Primarchs lol

[opaque coyote]

I kinda wonder if "Peter Turbo" actually came from somebody genuinely mispronuncing Perturabo.

[storm jungle]

Nah

[paper haven]

Rip

[storm jungle]

it was a joke

[opaque coyote]

Damn

[cerulean trellis]

you mean you are getting death threats left AND right?!

[paper haven]

Robot girlyman

Lion the Johnson

[gleaming gale]

They should pick a direction, they are rather headless

[opaque coyote]

Magnet the Red

Robot Girlyman

Whorus Luberical

Lion the Johnson

Ruckus Door.

[paper haven]

Angry

[opaque coyote]

How TF do you make Corvus Corax more ridiculous

Genuinely

[honest trellis]

Imperial simp fulgrim was a manchild

[paper haven]

Honestly it's hard to improve on perfection

[honest trellis]

At least current fulgrim is living his best life

[cerulean trellis]

my tummy hurts xD

[paper haven]

Well

[opaque coyote]

Uhh

Crow.

[heady rivet]

Important clarification just came in: The chapter name is Emperor's Chosen

[paper haven]

Got it

[honest trellis]

Ontologically perfect

[opaque coyote]

Not really, he's actually quite depressed

[storm jungle]

Hes not lol

Hes just bored until he gets the next high

[honest trellis]

He is by definition perfect

And joyful

[heady rivet]

What a whiner, he has everything his little hedonism can get

[storm jungle]

Hes not "depressed" at anything

[honest trellis]

He is literally a personification of joy

[paper haven]

Yeah because he is forced to feel that way

[storm jungle]

Nah

daemon primarchs can feel most things minus Angron

Fulgrim just largely doesnt care about anything

[heady rivet]

Angron is the real victim

[opaque coyote]

It's the same vibes as like

Laying down on the couch and trying to numb your feelings with as much booze and mindless entertainment as possible but times a thousand

[paper haven]

My man really sold his soul and came away worse off

[storm jungle]

It flip flops, we see this in that new novel.

[honest trellis]

Bored might shank a primarch later

[storm jungle]

A victim of not killing himself sooner

[gleaming gale]

Shocking, selling your soul to literal demons makes you feel like shit

[storm jungle]

I mean it doesnt

idk why people say this lol

most daemon primarcs are very content

[heady rivet]

One of the lost parimarchs just roped

[storm jungle]

Angron is the only one because hes an animal

[honest trellis]

Better than living a slave to a gilded chair

[paper haven]

I blame Faust

[opaque coyote]

Tbf for a good chunk, it's pretty fucking great.

[storm jungle]

Nah

[storm jungle]

the decision is either being Super-Hitlers or Super-Hitlers but Satan

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's still not really content. Slaanesh really isn't a god that appreciates contentment to begin with.

[honest trellis]

Hail satan

[storm jungle]

Hes content, read stuff.

[gleaming gale]

I mean, Mike Brooks just turned Lion into a goody two shoes compared to his past performance

[honest trellis]

Seriously chaos is a mlm but infinitely better a deal than iom

[paper haven]

What, like some sort of nerd?

[heady rivet]

Uh, yah

[storm jungle]

Uh, nahg

[cerulean trellis]

that soudns like you may decide: hitler or himmler xD

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-minor-s-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-10940848928744248792

[storm jungle]

nah

[opaque coyote]

I joke that Chaos is basically just climbing the corporate ladder and that the Chaos Gods are just mega corps

[gleaming gale]

Who'd rather hold office this term, Baal or Moloch

[opaque coyote]

Because yeah Chaos basically works like a MLM scheme

[honest trellis]

Theyre empyrean essential oils

[storm jungle]

Hes not a goody two shoes lol, Brooks is like one of the few self-aware authors on how bad the Imperium is and constantly reminds it to people. The Lion novel is just him being "nice" to his own marines, hes still a mass-murderer who upholds the Imperium.

[opaque coyote]

Idk

Moloch only wants me to sacrifice my first born.

[cerulean trellis]

i mean that in the way: hitler was the official figurehead and Himmler went off and did his oocult thing on the side xD

[paper haven]

Those wacky nazis

[opaque coyote]

I need to catch up on the newer novels anyways

[paper haven]

Daily reminder that the Night lords killed the least people

[storm jungle]

aka: never

[heady rivet]

"Man I gotta get the fuck outta this war, our lord just declared himself the emperor of the cosmos after we captured a few villages right Infront of a massive army, and some dude a few ranks down just prayed to a god I'm pretty sure they sacrificed babies to"

[cerulean trellis]

i mean he does consider image by letting the humans give him the lionguard xD

[storm jungle]

Mass murderers are mass murderers

[storm jungle]

Yeah because people must be kept content

[heady rivet]

Insane how they did nothign wrong literally ever

[opaque coyote]

...

I would say fuck you but you're probably right.

[storm jungle]

yes

[opaque coyote]

I got a bunch of other stuff on the backlog.

[paper haven]

Look, I take what I can get in these trying times of only war

[cerulean trellis]

ditch, warhammer more important

[storm jungle]

👎

[gleaming gale]

It's not a war crime if you win

[storm jungle]

yeah but they didnt win

so lmao

[fervent geode]

At first, it quickly just devolved into mass murder too lol

[cerulean trellis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1484348357148282960/1752934061219_truthgryn.gif

[paper haven]

It's not a war crime if it isn't done during war time.

[fervent geode]

Thramas was an absolute shitshow

[opaque coyote]

It devolved into mass murder when they left

If I remember correctly

[storm jungle]

Thramas was just "Okay fuck it everyone just do what you want"

[fervent geode]

Both lol

[storm jungle]

Both dummy lol

Night Lords methods never would work

[fervent geode]

The worlds conquered like shit ended up like shit

Crazy right

[heady rivet]

(Note: They worked)

[storm jungle]

(Note: Read the lore)

you dont keep populaces in line with terror

[paper haven]

Their home planet needed to be glassed long before it happened

[opaque coyote]

True

[gleaming gale]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[fervent geode]

They don’t work -Jago Sevatarion

[storm jungle]

^

fear also isnt really a good motivator for stability in the way NL do it

[heady rivet]

Thats true but I disagree

[opaque coyote]

It always works within the first

Two weeks to a year?

But anything longer than that and people begin shooting.

[paper haven]

I believe that was the whole point of the Night Lords, yeah? Even if they perfect the craft eventually the threat will fade

[gleaming gale]

Exactly 14 days, no more

[heady rivet]

I dont think we terrorized them enough

[fervent geode]

I mean the moment the realise the scary men aren’t coming back, the new govnuh starts to look oddly shankable

[storm jungle]

Yeah.

[paper haven]

It turns out that horrific, well documented atrocity breeds resentment

[storm jungle]

America Moment

[cerulean trellis]

or shootable, whichever u prefer i guess

[paper haven]

Go figure

[storm jungle]

"Surely bombing a few more iranian schools will get them to rebel against teh regime"

[opaque coyote]

Usually the latter

[storm jungle]

[fervent geode]

Whatever’s available

[paper haven]

You guys better stop or we'll really let loose.

[gleaming gale]

"Donald, you must bomb my country to rubble so I can become king" - Reza Pahlavi, probably

[opaque coyote]

But yeah the Night Lords were terrible even on a pragmatic front.

Too much stick, not enough carrot

[heady rivet]

We ate the carrot so we just gotta beat with the stick

[storm jungle]

İnşallah he will be killed first day in office 🙏

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/mother-of-god-officer-super-troopers-of-god-gif-16007533

[paper haven]

Hopefully by a tomahawk missile. Really bring this all full circle

[storm jungle]

"We were aiming for another school, my bad guys"

[paper haven]

Whoops we missed

[gleaming gale]

Pahlavi's fault for building his palace near the school

[opaque coyote]

"Sorry, we "accidentally" left a bunch of highly expensive military equipment to the Taliban."

[heady rivet]

Another 20 trillion to Israel. Another vote for the ZOG v ZOG election

[opaque coyote]

• US Government

[paper haven]

That preschool was next to a valid military target, clearly it was nefarious.

[opaque coyote]

The valid military target was an orphanage

[gleaming gale]

7 billion Thrones to the Calixis Sector, you must die for Scintilla and invade the Koronus Expanse

[paper haven]

The official designation is "Early access training camp"

[storm jungle]

"My King of Ages, the rogue human empires are TWO WEEKS AWAY from building nuclear weapons!"

🗣️

[gleaming gale]

Holy Terra Impressed

[opaque coyote]

I would agree but he's clearly too gay for that

[cerulean trellis]

https://giphy.com/gifs/warhammer-40k-exterminatus-meme-nkzFLrcasTn0fPtIlb

[storm jungle]

Idk man Yahoo looks like a proper polisher

[storm jungle]

Greasing the union

[gleaming gale]

I mean, he is polish

[paper haven]

Hasn't backfired yet

[gleaming gale]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-paulie-walnuts-gualtieri-betrayal-how-much-more-betrayal-gif-16615173

[opaque coyote]

Holy shit this guy is extremely lenient.

He even pretended that diplomacy exists rather than nuking their children instantly

[heady rivet]

Scintilla blew up our Cruiser and tried to blame Footfall. But the Von Valancius dynasty says its okay...

[cerulean trellis]

the dead have a hard time retaliating after all

[opaque coyote]

Considering the warp, the Gellar drive suddenly failing or some shit probably is their retaliation

[paper haven]

I can't hear a thousand voices cry out in terror, just silence

[cerulean trellis]

how woudl that work?

[paper haven]

Anyway ignore those demons

[gleaming gale]

The Severan Dominate is 4 centuries away from acquiring cyclonic torpedoes

[opaque coyote]

I swear that Istvaan basically had a bunch of bad warp juju after the massacre

I didn't read a lot of the Horus Heresy books tbh so I don't remember the exact details?

[opaque coyote]

The biggest war crime against the Severan Dominate is the lack of media and lore they have

Clearly the most unforgivable sin from the Imperium

[gleaming gale]

Such is the fate of footnote splinter realms

[heady rivet]

How come no matter who gains the Warrant of Trade, Scintilla wins?

[cerulean trellis]

cause the house always wins

[gleaming gale]

You just got a message on your pager from the Chalice Commissariat

Check it out

[paper haven]

I never liked Scintilla

[gleaming gale]

Nobles are good for causing trouble and catching bullets

[paper haven]

Actually that was the plot of a Uriel Ventris novel

[opaque coyote]

Really?

Huh

[heady rivet]

Why is the Patriots Of Koronus astropathic choir based in Scintilla anyway

[opaque coyote]

Anyways I always thought that a lot of massacres and genocides would logically have similar consequences

On the planets left

[gleaming gale]

That's a very anti-drusian attitude

[opaque coyote]

It's a good thing that most planets that get that bad usually get blown up.

[paper haven]

Imperial forces did a war crime, angry ghosts stuck around, warp travel caused them to possess skinless space marine mutants, revenge

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah

Fuck I can't believe I forgot that

Shit

[opaque coyote]

But yeah considering the warp and how it reflects reality in terms of emotions and feelings.

I feel like that should be way more common ngl

[heady rivet]

Crazy that whenever they bomb a Medicae or Progenium facility it always turns out to be a heretic base...

[gleaming gale]

The sector was promised to Saint Drusus 3000 years ago

[opaque coyote]

Like the ghosts of the original inhabitants that the Imperium killed

Come back to haunt the settled planet

[paper haven]

It really should

It happens a lot

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I'm now imagining stuff like

And you're gonna groan at this but it might be cruel

The ghostly remnants of the Krieg rebellion

Haunting the planet

Reports of sudden battles that happen with ghostly apparitions of tanks

[paper haven]

I hate it

[gleaming gale]

I'd be haunting the place too if they rebranded me as the Steel Legion

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah

...

Man that was an asshole move by GW

[paper haven]

Trust me the steel legion aren't happy either

[opaque coyote]

Steel Legion haunts a Krieger

"YOU STOLE MY FUCKING REGIMENT..."

[gleaming gale]

I'm a Krieg hater, Krieg catching flak for this blunder overcomes my grief that the Steel Legion is gone

[paper haven]

I love Krieg. I despise Krieg fans

[storm jungle]

The best part of modern 40k has been some people realizing Krieg fans are fucking annoying

[gleaming gale]

Haha, shobel!

[storm jungle]

i remember back in the day circa-2012 where EVERYONE was encouraging the shitty mmes

now at least people go "okay we get it, shut up"

[paper haven]

Muh shovel

[storm jungle]

muh happy gasmask noises

[gleaming gale]

Trenchslop

[storm jungle]

Me putting down the wild schizophrenic krieg fan i find in the wild

[paper haven]

20,000 casualties

No land gained

[gleaming gale]

Do you really just have a folder of Sopranos reactions at hand

[paper haven]

Slopranos

[storm jungle]

I got like 30 clips for Paulie that is constantly expanding

[gleaming gale]

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-sopranos-gif-18592539

[paper haven]

I rest my case

[storm jungle]

Its a good show. Whack all non-watchers.

[paper haven]

How's the ending?

[gleaming gale]

https://tenor.com/view/josh-hutcherson-whistle-black-screen-meme-gif-6328782212715248898

[paper haven]

That was a low blow. I apologize

[gleaming gale]

@storm jungle I want you to sanction a hit on Trooper Dylan

Begone heretic

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/almighty-god-kill-this-white-devil-white-devil-anime-pray-gif-3459143917308405490

[paper haven]

Oh boy a crypto scam?

Haven't seen one of those in a while

[opaque coyote]

I think Crypto is basically dead rn

[gleaming gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1002377913955532992/1425894031522795630/attachment.gif

[opaque coyote]

Kinda funny considering how fucking wide spread that shit was

[paper haven]

That doesn't work like that

[opaque coyote]

The gif or Crypto being dead

[paper haven]

The gif. Laser defense beams

[gleaming gale]

It's a truth beam

[heady rivet]

Proof in His power

[paper haven]

While lasers can disable guided munitions, the targeting system will always be the problem

[gleaming gale]

https://tenor.com/view/true-get-this-man-a-true-go-my-true-whatever-go-my-true-gif-16382191100563919909

[opaque coyote]

I guess you can say this gif

Is

false

https://tenor.com/view/dog-true-eyes-dog-true-meme-dog-eyes-meme-gif-669697498800876669

[gleaming gale]

https://tenor.com/view/true-morgan-freeman-red-alert-3-command-and-conquer-gif-2019202778263202492

[opaque coyote]

Red Alert basically had cutscenes always like a porno

But Red Alert 3 was simulatenously high and low budget in that regard

It's genuinely hilarious

[paper haven]

I wish all games aspired to be like Red Alert 3

[gleaming gale]

The russian sniper in skimpy clothes wasn't a giveaway?

[raven stone]

TBF that tend only started in Red Alert 2

Even Tib Sun cutscenes were still serious

[paper haven]

More cutscenes shot like 90s porno flicks, please

[opaque coyote]

In general the series knows what it is and sorta leans towards it

[raven stone]

and EA later cornered it so only Red Alert franchise had the weird stuff

[gleaming gale]

The entire budget went into Tim Curry

[opaque coyote]

Good decision making on their part tbh

Also George Takei

Don't forget him

[paper haven]

Worth it

[raven stone]

Generals and Tiberian series had cutscenes that, whilst corny, were not really porno like

unlike Red Alert 3's cheescake spam

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/egUDYu_qmL0?si=IryzoHR76ouni_Jt

[paper haven]

They really leaned into it for RE3

[opaque coyote]

Also JK Simmons

[gleaming gale]

Relevant to the present events

[paper haven]

Life imitates art

[raven stone]

RA3 was basically EA paying a lot of famous actors and actresses to...create memetic cutscenes

and it is glorious

[opaque coyote]

Who is also the fucking US president

And also a robot Japanese spy

[raven stone]

Implied only in the Imperial JP campaign

[paper haven]

The president of the United States is a foreign asset?

Impossible

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

They definitely didn't think things through since it's kinda inconsistent on that part

Tbf why the fuck would they

[paper haven]

They ran out of budget and had to write out JK Simmons?

Uh uh he's a robot!

[raven stone]

I mean TBF Red Alert 3's campaigns are mutually exclusive storylines mostly

so...never ran out of budget

[gleaming gale]

He asked for too many pictures of Spiderman

[raven stone]

but certainly a one off series thing

[opaque coyote]

The only thing I am disappointed in is that after Red Alert 3, the series basically went down hill

[paper haven]

Well yeah, it kind of has to be

[opaque coyote]

EA moment

[plush mason]

thats not a movie?

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-touch-principal-skinner-ea-electronic-arts-the-simpsons-gif-10333712

[opaque coyote]

Tbf a part of me wants a four way (pause) between Nazi Germany, USSR, Imperial Japan, and the USA for Red Alert 4.

[raven stone]

Pretty much the only time EA took a hint was when Blizzard fucked up Warcraft remastered
Then EA actually did the exact oppostie of what Blizzard did
When it came to Command and Conquer/Red Alert 1 remaster release

[paper haven]

Me too- Me too

[opaque coyote]

WW3 but with Tesla coils

[paper haven]

Turn the Eiffel tower into a Tesla coil

[raven stone]

That already happened in RA2

Soviet campaign

[paper haven]

I know

[heady rivet]

They'd have to uber-buff everyone else and the USA could just be the same and it'd still be total USA victory lowkey

[gleaming gale]

Iron Harvest lookin ass lore

[paper haven]

Do it again

[cerulean trellis]

Nope. A cutscene in a strategy game

[opaque coyote]

Also Jedi Fallen Order was a banger.

Dead Space Remake was also an objective improvement from the original but they uh

Killed the series AGAIN because the profits it earned were only "good" and not the next Fortnite.

Despite the fact that they released it at the exact same time the fucking RE4 REMAKE RELEASED

[paper haven]

Nazi soldier voice lines are all like, "Wait, are we the bad guys?"

[gleaming gale]

I guess it's better than Sony never touching Killzone again because everyone liked the Helghast in unanimity over the protagonist faction

[opaque coyote]

I mean tbf that's what they did for 3.

Japan literally had samurai mechas

With gigantic katanas

[paper haven]

Dead Space my beloved

[opaque coyote]

Dead Space getting killed off twice because EA expected the series to earn a trillion dollars

[paper haven]

You don't hate EA enough

[opaque coyote]

Everytime I think I do. It isn't enough

[raven stone]

I still think instead of the in-between Yuriko design they should just have gone full out and made her an actual magical girl :p

because why not, at that point

[opaque coyote]

Magical girl mechas

...

That's power rangers actually

/super sentai

[raven stone]

But I mean, seriously, if you told me I can build a single magical girl unit that can toss around Apocalypse tanks and flatten entire bases solo...

[opaque coyote]

Power rangers is basically a magical girl anime mixed with mechas which is kinda funny

[opaque coyote]

Something that I generally wish was done more

Was like

Cutesy Magical Girl Powers

Or just like powers from a cartoon for little girls

Doing like

Fucking devastating damage

Like they do "rainbow puppy blast!" And it just fucking devastates an entire city

[raven stone]

Precure. Just...Precure.

Go look it up.

If you take what the characters do there, and then apply real life physics, right

they can give Marine Legions a run for their fucking boltshells

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's exactly what I'm thinking

"Love Love Rainbow Sphere!"

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-rage-explosion-dbz-gif-6042964

billions dead

[raven stone]

Ahem, it already exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo9LHe4CCbU

For context: Girl fires a pink ion cannon that punches through multiple layers of a ship roughly the size of a 40k Escort (recalling 40k Escorts are still piss stupid large)

[opaque coyote]

10/10

I fucking love how it's basically expending shells even while charging

[winged jacinth]

Nanoha follows the school of friendship through superior firepower

[opaque coyote]

It's how I think of like

Y'know how there exists weapons that take a multitude of ammo

Like the BFG takes a lot of plasma ammo in the classic Doom games

I kinda imagine that. Like while it's charging, it just expends a bunch of plasma cartridges

[raven stone]

AS someone who likes both C&C and Nanoha, I feel qualified to say she is very much just a cute, living, walking and breathing Pink Ion Cannon.

[opaque coyote]

Space Marines when they go against the fucking Magical Girl

I once remember seeing like old cringe ass 2000's era art of like

[raven stone]

They need Librarians, end of.

[opaque coyote]

SMs killing MLP characters

And I was like

"Nah logically they would be fucking dead"

They gonna do shit against somebody literally firing past the speed of sound to the point of making a rainbow Sonic Boom?

No

[raven stone]

Each shell reinforces magical energy, so either she was doing it to make sure the shot punches through the ship's armour well enough...or she was really, really pissed at her adopted daughter's kdinapper.

[opaque coyote]

Bith

*Both

Either way I need to watch that

That looks fun

[raven stone]

Nanoha franchise is...well, there are the 3 classic series (Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha - literally, then followed by "A's", then followed by "StrikerS"), no I am not typing the full name out 3 times lol

[opaque coyote]

Speaking of Magical Girl Anime.

I kinda find it funny that Sailor Moon kinda subverts a lot of tropes that are ironically associated with Magical Girls.

It's like how Konosuba, which is a satire of Isekai animes, is one of the most popular Isekai anime. It's a bit funny.

Same with Madoka Magica, which is also explicitly a deconstruction, but that kinda popularized a trope in itself.

[raven stone]

Nowadays it is going through a bit of a revival, so look up those classic 3 first, I tihnk

I mean, I guess we all like to be pleasantly surprised, in a way

[opaque coyote]

Like Serena gets her powers. But because

A) She just got them with zero explanation
B) she's a 14 years old girl with no idea what's going on

She immediately runs away as fast as she could, terrified for her life

Right after the whole transformation animation too

[raven stone]

Yea, that makes sense

[opaque coyote]

And her first fight is entirely just her hiding and running around and trying to not shit herself

Until she eventually figures out that her Tiara can kill them

Eventually...

She's also kinda fucking stupid which is great.

[opaque coyote]

Also the funniest part is that Sailor Moon had like two cases of censorship making things even worse

For the English dub

[raven stone]

as dubs usually do...

@opaque coyote Oh, another one. Slightly darker (but TLDR, don't worry, even within the story of the anime this scene takes place in, both characters are fictional manga characters that somehow got brought to life. Re:creators is weird like that.). Also very sadly, the explosion doesn't actually do much by the next episode, but...just the raw power matches what you want

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKc-RlMGcs8

[opaque coyote]

Nvm I have to clarify

One was in the original anime and a change from the manga

And the other was from actual censorship

The first one basically has no stated reason why

You see Mamoru/Tuxedo Mask was 16, Selena/Serena was 14.

For no reason at all, the 90's anime aged Mamoru up to 17

And made him a university student

...

There is no reason given

[raven stone]

oops

[opaque coyote]

Second one is from the English Dub

So Sailor Moon has a surprising amount of LGBTQ+ content

There is canonically a lesbian pair, Sailor Uranus and Neptune. Serena also thirsts over... Like

Nearly every woman and man that's slightly hot

I'm not joking

[raven stone]

Oh right they made them cousins

super fail

[opaque coyote]

Sailor Moon is basically Bi.

They removed that

[opaque coyote]

And also this

They tried to remove as many scenes as possible

But due to it literally being major

They couldn't remove them all

So...

Sweet home Alabama

[opaque coyote]

Also Kunzite and Zoisite were gay

Basically they were two villain men loving each other

Of course, the English dub couldn't have that

So...

Zoisite, the more effeminate one

Just got outright turned into a woman

Yeah the English dub had to remove literally entire episodes

Entire chunks were just gone

And part of that is because Sailor Moon is incredibly queer

[opaque coyote]

Including a scene where they're on a dating show

Btw

I have to mention that

[raven stone]

ha!

[opaque coyote]

The finale was also incredibly boring in the DiC English dub

Because originally all of the Sailors

...died

Sailor Moon was the only one left alive

This got changed to them being captured

[raven stone]

well that's a letdown...

tension gone

[opaque coyote]

I can't believe I just fucking realized it

The absolute series is basically just Jack Snyder's Extended Universe except written really well

[paper haven]

Except good

[opaque coyote]

Basically yeah

I mean Absolute Batman, at a very surface level, is similar to Snyder's batman

Except ripped as shit obviously

But still

It's like everything Snyder tried to tackle except it's succeeding

Thank you Darkseid, you're truly the best writer

[nocturne crest]

Should Noise Marines have more musical instruments than just their speakers and guitars?

[opaque coyote]

Oh 1000%

I always wanted a Slaaneshi Warband that's also an actual band

[paper haven]

Batman punching two robbers in half and saying "Freeze"

[nocturne crest]

That would be great.

[opaque coyote]

Also imagine how cool instruments like

Drums would be

[opaque coyote]

I find it funny that some versions of Batman are actually fairly reasonable

While others are basically just

Arkham Batman

"WHERE IS HE??"

"uh what?"

[paper haven]

Arkham problems require Arkham solutions

[opaque coyote]

BREAKS ALL OF THE OTHER PERSON'S BONES

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if a land raider has enough room to work as a stage?

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I think the only time outside of gameplay where he actually did that crazy shit is in origins.

And even then, he's specifically wilder and out of control in that game

Because he just got in fresh with anger

[paper haven]

GW doesn't understand scale so probably, yeah

[opaque coyote]

To be honest, I have no idea

[paper haven]

I thought he was very appropriate

[opaque coyote]

How big are land raiders?

I never really thought about their scale in general

[paper haven]

Land raiders should be able to hold five terminators

So. Pretty large

[opaque coyote]

Mmmm

I mean it could work as a stage but it'd be a bit cramped

Especially if you include things like speakers

[nocturne crest]

Wait, is a baneblade bigger than a land raider?

[opaque coyote]

To make Slaanesh pleased

[nocturne crest]

You could put the speakers on the sponsors?

[paper haven]

Baneblades are slightly bigger

[opaque coyote]

Yeah true.

The Pauldrons finally get used for something

[paper haven]

Again, GW doesn't understand scale.

[opaque coyote]

Tbh I haven't been in a tank or jumped on one like a crazy person

So idk the scale

[languid meadow]

to be fair scale is like

really hard for people to grasp

like super damn hard

[paper haven]

I've read books describing the inside of a baneblade like a sort of command room on a starship

[opaque coyote]

Yeah exactly. We laugh at GW's numerical fuck ups but like

It's not like we are a galactic empire

[jade holly]

If I were a Titan, my war horn would be Freebird on loop

[opaque coyote]

Although I still think SM numbers are bullshit

[paper haven]

Which would put the actual size of the vehicle somewhere around a city block

[languid meadow]

but yeah there's a difference between it being inconsistent and just like bad scaling

[jade holly]

Specifically the guitar solo

[languid meadow]

like ngl titans being how big they are does make sense

they can't really get bigger

[opaque coyote]

Because there's apparently only like 1 million?

[languid meadow]

people just can't fathom how big they are until they're put up against something is around the same size inthe real world then you see

oh it's not that big

[opaque coyote]

I get they're basically special shock troopers but I kinda feel like on a galactic scale that's too small?

[surreal nest]

that be the point

[paper haven]

That's why the imperial guard does the heavy lifting

[opaque coyote]

Like I have no idea how Horus's rebellion got that far assuming his numbers are close to 40k's.

[surreal nest]

a million worlds but these special inbred mutants can only save so many

[paper haven]

Like 99 percent of battles are handled by the wall of lasguns

[surreal nest]

well there were more back then they just died

[opaque coyote]

Yeah this is probably why there's little solid numbers for the Horus Heresy

In general, doing solid numbers in writing is hard

[paper haven]

Astartes legions also had standing armies of regular soldiers

Wasn't just space Marines, but a self sufficient fleet

[opaque coyote]

Yup that'll do it

[nocturne crest]

Odd question, but should there be special god versions of chaos units like the Obliterators or Mutilators?

[opaque coyote]

Still though, scale is hard to quantify, especially for something like Scifi

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[languid meadow]

the only ones that still do are the ultramarines since the realm of ultramar controls them than the marines

[opaque coyote]

If only cause designs would be cool

[nocturne crest]

Like, Noise Obliterators, but they're basically roadies carrying gear or speakers on their back.

[opaque coyote]

600 EXTRA WORLDS TO ULTRAMAR

[languid meadow]

if they can make them marginally less shit

sure what the hell

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that sounds cool as fuck

Actually

Since they basically become living weapons

Would a Noise Obliterator have like

Electricity running through them?

Since there needs to be electricity to power speakers

This also applies to Obliterators with weapons like plasma guns grown on them

[paper haven]

Honestly looking at the 500 worlds will give you a good idea about how much territory a space marine legion can hold

[opaque coyote]

I feel like Obliterators, depending on the weapons

Would have electricity coursing through their bodies

Which as a side note would look sick as fuck, bit also probably be incredibly painful

...so just like everything from Chaos

[jade holly]

Noise Knights

[opaque coyote]

Jokes aside though, I can imagine a Obliterator that wields more high tech weapons basically become a breathing lightning rod

[paper haven]

Iron warriors be like: Man I sure wish I had a better gun.

Monkey's paw curls

[nocturne crest]

So a walking Tesla tower?

[opaque coyote]

Dangerous to even touch because you would die from the electricity coursing their body to power their higher tech weapons

[opaque coyote]

Yeah basically

[nocturne crest]

Wait.

[opaque coyote]

Electric bolts firing randomly while they shoot giant plasma shots

[paper haven]

And yes, it is contagious

[jade holly]

Tesla tower Mutilator

[nocturne crest]

If you have a flamethrower shoot out water, would the person getting hit with the stream get shocked as well?

[opaque coyote]

Do flamethrowers require eletricity

This is a dumbass question but I remember some of them basically shooting out napalm

[nocturne crest]

Pressurised gas.

[jade holly]

Gas that gets ignited by a torch on the end

[nocturne crest]

One canister filled with fuel, other filled with a gas to shoot it out.

[paper haven]

Assuming a constant stream of water in continuous contact with an open arc, yeah

[opaque coyote]

True.

Electric Mutilator that's probably also on fire

[paper haven]

But at that point just use the flamethrower or electricity

[opaque coyote]

But also this

[raven stone]

Ah yes stacking status.
The best war crime tactic in any rpg lol

[opaque coyote]

Shooting electrified water is boring

Shooting lightning bolts is better

[nocturne crest]

True.

[paper haven]

Electrifying ground water when shooting literal lightning bolts is an option

[jade holly]

“How did we get here?” Ahh strategy

[nocturne crest]

All I'm thinking about now is the 9th doctor episode with the dalek in.

Also, just heard back from someone. You could probably fit 10 marines on top of a baneblade.

[opaque coyote]

Baneblade stage

[nocturne crest]

Do you think the other chaos factions would be annoyed if EC got a noise version of the Fellhammer?

[languid meadow]

I wish arrowhead would drop this fuck ass anticheat god damn

I want to mod but I don't want to risk getting banned

[paper haven]

Considering you can probably fit ten people on top of a normal tank, that doesn't bode well for the size of the baneblade

[nocturne crest]

So controversial question, but if anyone here had to pick between Chaos Terminators or Obliterators and Mutilators being removed from all chaos factions in a future edition, what would you pick?

[jade holly]

Terminators

[opaque coyote]

Minotaur?

Honestly would probably be more likely to just steal their shit and leave

[nocturne crest]

So chaos terminator are gone

[nocturne crest]

I thought it was adeptus custodes?

[opaque coyote]

Probably that

Given the circle

They have a weird circle thing on their abs

[nocturne crest]

I wouldn't be surprised if the minotaur did steal some custodes armour.

[opaque coyote]

The Minotaurs steal everything

Blood Ravens are paltry compared to the Minotaurs

[nocturne crest]

The Blood Ravens actually have stolen Custodes Armour, if DOW2 is canon to the lore.

[opaque coyote]

They only got that reputation because it was originally a joke based on the fact that they randomly got a lot of random ass artifacts

[rancid cove]

Minotaurs arent gold...

Those are custodes

[opaque coyote]

They're a golden brown

Wait hold on

Nvm I'm fucking color blind

Not really because I wouldn't have realized it

[winter pine]

I thought Minotaurs were more of a bronze color

[opaque coyote]

Lighting can make them look golden though

[opaque coyote]

But yeah this is what generally is the case

[rancid cove]

Theyre more of a bronze to copper look

Dumbass

[opaque coyote]

Wouldn't say copper

Not orange enough

Or green

[rancid cove]

Yeah true i guess brass-bronze

[opaque coyote]

So just bronze

Or brass

[winter pine]

definitely get bronze from this image off the lexicanum

[brittle geyser]

Cool

[rancid cove]

Love these chuds

[nocturne crest]

The minotaur probably steal copper wiring.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's the case and I'm a dumbass

Bright lighting can make that bronze look gold though

[jade holly]

Brass is the best of both gold and bronze

[nocturne crest]

Wait, do catalytic converters exist in 40k?

[winter pine]

Stealing copper wiring and peoples' organs just for the love of it

[jade holly]

There’s a reason brass rhymes with badass 🗣️ 🔥

[nocturne crest]

And Bass.

[rancid cove]

Brass/copper/bronze > gold

[opaque coyote]

Gold bars under dark colors look like the Minotaur color scheme

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/bass-pro-shop-bass-pro-pyramid-bass-pro-shop-pyramid-gif-7891996613595049664

[opaque coyote]

I swear I am not that much of a dumbass

[jade holly]

No it rhymes with Bass not Bass smh

[opaque coyote]

I swea-

[opaque coyote]

And forte

Wait wrong game

God I hope MegaMan Dual Override doesn't suck

Capcom don't fuck this up on god

I generally like the X games better than the classics tbh

Classics are great though don't get me wrong

It's just like the first four X games are a banger

The second half kinda suck ass though

MMX8 kinda salvaged it but X6 and X7 are examples of games that are absolute ass

Although in different ways

[nocturne crest]

Megaman in resident evil dlc when?

[opaque coyote]

Re3 referenced bad box art megaman

So there's that

[opaque coyote]

Re3 remake sucks ass though

Okay that's not fair

...

It sucks

Just not sucks ass

Different level of bad

Like base gameplay is actually solid

But they fucking cut content

From the original

And not just a few pieces like RE2

Like entire ass areas and storylines

Why

Do you know how fucking cool it would've been to

Go to a zoo filled with zombie animals?

At least Re3 remake Jill is hot but still

Disappointing

Also Nemesis didn't have his stylish trenchcoat

Instead he wears what's basically a fucking trashbag

Mr. X has his trenchcoat and fancy hat

Where's Nemesis's coat?

[jade holly]

Doesn’t that make more sense in lore tho? Isn’t he prototype?

[near wasp]

Wow playing an evil character is something else in dnd

Some noble wanted us to find his sword, since we are in the faewild I just stated I'd look for the thing that took his sword and walked away. He tried to say wait that's not how this works. And we found the sword and stole it. Now we're gonna forge tickets to get into the tournament he was trying to compete in and we're gonna take his place.

[paper haven]

I thought RE3 felt anemic

[sacred ginkgo]

This Wild Beyond the Witchlight or something your dm wrote

I do think Morally Ambiguous™ is more interesting than evil though

[brave owl]

whats this about krieg being armageddon?

I am out of the loop

[sacred ginkgo]

The yarrick reveal trailer only showcased Cadians and DKoK

No Steel Legion

[brave owl]

So they confused them or something?

[sacred ginkgo]

No

They're just not there

Gw also released a video detailing how to paint dkok as steel legion

Which is
Damning
To say the least

[brave owl]

ok but what does that even mean

[sacred ginkgo]

No steel legion in plastic most likely

At least for a while

[brave owl]

aah

[gleaming gale]

They stated that apparently the Steel Legion ran out of manpower

On a hive world with pops rivalling a sector

Good thing the homeless cadians are there to replace them

[brave owl]

aah

big war

[sacred ginkgo]

Steel legion making so little money they get cucked on their own planet

By dkok no less

[gleaming gale]

Yeah and apparently asking for steel legion on the steel legion planet is a controversial opinion

'Just paint kringe yellow chud'

[sacred ginkgo]

Converting wouldn't be that bad but its still extra effort

[gleaming gale]

Yeah, Grot's Sweatshop threw the painter under the bus with that video, he did a good job painting but it still looks nothing alike the Steel Legion

[sacred ginkgo]

Replace lasgun with a kantreal, cut the hose and box off the mask (and fix the coat after)

[gleaming gale]

You're closer if you just headswap cadians if you don't straight up print SL models

[sacred ginkgo]

I can also see that one

But they don't have visible breastplates iirc and you'd have to do the coat yourself

Or you can shop around for old ass steel legion bits

[gleaming gale]

The alternatives are on par with official models in quality, worth it imo if you're not allergic to resin

[sacred ginkgo]

Resin printing is a horrific process though

And very expensive to get into

[gleaming gale]

Seller also prints them for you, got a squad of them and looks just like GW plastic, not a hint of printing on them

[sacred ginkgo]

Oh if its actual printed models not STL's then great

Go nuts

[gleaming gale]

Yeah it's both

Although given the quality of the print and the fact they take care of the whole curing, treating and washing, buying physical is kinda the same price as a GW box lol

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah post process on resin prints is rough but the quality is the reason most 3rd party models are resin printed

[gleaming gale]

Fortunately I'm planning a tank heavy list for the legion so at most 30 dudes is what I need

[sacred ginkgo]

I mean

It is steel legion

The ww2 combined arms army

[gleaming gale]

Eh, cadians are the combined arms niche more

Then again, cadians are everything

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah cadians are John militarum

Steel legion are specifically an armor heavy regiment

[gleaming gale]

It's a tug of war now between John Cadia and Mike Krieg for who's the Ultramarines of the guard

[mossy peak]

does nurgle not like psyker

[sacred ginkgo]

Nurgle is fine with magic

We just don't have combat sorcerers in game cause

Reasons

Idk

[gleaming gale]

Nurgle is, Death Guard doesn't like it

[mossy peak]

prefired my next question 💔

[gleaming gale]

We kinda have the daemonhosts who are most of the time psykers in the fluff, we just lack actual heretic psykers because... uh, Mercury is retrograde

[sacred ginkgo]

The Malignant Plaguecaster's honest reaction:

[gleaming gale]

Given the fact the Moebian Domain is reeking with psykers it's a low hanging fruit for obese fish to add heretic psykers

And they don't have to be Nurgle alligned, the 6th is Undivided

[sacred ginkgo]

No????

They are 100% pure nurgle

[gleaming gale]

They don't strike me as dedicated to Nurgle as the Admonition tbh

Except for a couple marks here and there

Them rotting away is just the side effect of working with the cult

[shadow plover]

They're as Nurglite as the Blood Pact are Khornite

[mossy peak]

new blunt class that can’t wake up daemonhosts

[gleaming gale]

Monkey's paw curls and the blank throws your aim off while in cohesion because of how repulsive their lack of soul is to you

[arctic talon]

We’re gona get Catachan soon lol

[gleaming gale]

Chem Dogs are coming before that

Until then you will have to paint your krieg minis as catachan

[sacred ginkgo]

Nah

Buy a ton of grass tufts and glue them all over a vague human shape

Then give it a gun

[gleaming gale]

If only they didn't nuke the catachan snipers as a unit, could have been a legit model

[mossy peak]

use plastic army men as catachans

[gleaming gale]

That or you know, the old reliable

The actual catachan minis

[shadow plover]

They're not that bad

[gleaming gale]

Yeah, but 99% of us can't pull this lmao

[shadow plover]

True, but 90% of complaints about bad GW sculpts come down to less than ideal paint jobs if we're being real