40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

Crop top power armor

should be smaller

[storm jungle]

Its not really about soloing, also the Cadia point makes sense lol

Armageddon also still shipped out troops

👎

[heady rivet]

My final point is that almost everyone complaining about this then admits they dont even own minis when pressed

[storm jungle]

Doesnt matter, its dumb

Quiet down Mundagonite

Wake me up when we get bodybuilder catachan women on the reveals then ill forgive this

[heady rivet]

I saw some shit on /tg/ about how all these women should get larger hips and busts the higher their rank and kill count

[heady rivet]

Catachan full range refresh but its an all-female regiment

[wary fulcrum]

We got one that was absolute fire and then never again

GW saw the futurw that way led, and they cowered from its glory

[heady rivet]

"Catachan 28272nd"

[storm jungle]

Good.

[storm jungle]

Unfortunately as ever promo/limited-time minis

[wary fulcrum]

Reminds me I need to House Orlock my spare up

[heady rivet]

The best 40k women minis were the Orlock gals they did

[wary fulcrum]

All 6 of them

[heady rivet]

Yes and

[wary fulcrum]

(I think there’s 9 female Orlock minis now? And we’re waiting on 1 more)

No it’s 8 with a ninth

The second wrecker female is just an alt head

[arctic talon]

I’d count alt heads personally ngl

[heady rivet]

Speaking of waiting

https://tenor.com/view/fullmetal-jacket-stanley-kubrick-zoom-soldier-derpy-gif-5146544

[arctic talon]

Straight up haunting it

And by it, let’s just say, my enforcers

[wary fulcrum]

I’m doing nomads this campaign

We’re currently in downtime, it’s my birthday next week, and the duneskuttler came back into stock

Just a no brainer really ain’t it?

[limpid granite]

https://klipy.com/gifs/absolute-cinema-scorsese

[rose thorn]

[rocky gale]

Excellent spelling

[daring creek]

What animal would you assign space marine legions

like what would the black templars be or the imperial fists

[storm jungle]

bruh

furry arc

[wintry scarab]

I love goofy designs like these and iirc the mini has these as well, but what is the point of these butt plates? Do they have a function?

[storm jungle]

The mini has it as well yeah

i remember turning that hot assassin mini around expecting some nice ass then getting radiator buttcheeks

[heady rivet]

Cushion

[daring creek]

arc?

Im just thinking about what animals chapters would be!

and maybe factions too

[storm jungle]

yeah like Noah's ark...

[daring creek]

thats a boat full of animals...

[rancid cove]

What's even the use of a crop top power armor

[storm jungle]

this server yeah

[daring creek]

shut up lmfao

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Idfk

[neon jacinth]

Hello all

[arctic talon]

Ask him

Maybe it’s a fashion statement

[daring creek]

i can only think about cats

help

[vagrant fox]

anti slip naturally

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/hornyjail-bonk-baseballbat-kitty-cat-gif-19401897

[urban spire]

fart amplifying speakers

[daring creek]

BE SILENT!

[urban spire]

NO

FRRRMP

[daring creek]

KEK

[wary fulcrum]

Gonna go based solely off the fact the guard minis have them on the knees

I’m guessing they’re flexible

Could be the clothes are flak reinforced and those parts are to protect from wear or something?

[rancid cove]

Let that ass breathe

[wary fulcrum]

Stomach not as important as chest

[rancid cove]

idk a whole ass bolter shot to the stomach might be a problem

[storm jungle]

"Whats even the use-"

Its a fucking World Eater

[wary fulcrum]

Abs stop bullets

[rancid cove]

true

[storm jungle]

blessings of chaos

[rancid cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266822219003072612/1385021465329401926/DocShock1-1924514359293669502-01-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

[wary fulcrum]

Oh, Khorne likes to put mouths in stomachs

Maybe the crop top is a hint

[urban spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/214523406727512065/1172276700457992312/image0.gif?ex=655fbac1&is=654d45c1&hm=a4350866eac45a24a1363195f7b6a9eb6e04fc4597b140f8f9ce8e525d4de5c5&

[rancid cove]

tbh any chaos god for maybe the exception of tzeentch puts mouths on stomach

cause nurgle also love those

and Slaneesh might give you a mouth anywhere you fucking want

[urban spire]

nah tzeentch is the god of mutation he's got that too

[rancid cove]

i always figured his mutations were more shit like multiple eyes and whatever

[storm jungle]

All chaos gods have any type of mutations

[wary fulcrum]

I suppose the mouths of horrors are technically in their stomachs?

[wary fulcrum]

I’m just thinking that Khorne has had rules for his

[urban spire]

the gods restrain themselves to animal themes

which is nice of them

[storm jungle]

thats like only tzeentch

so no

[heady rivet]

Drawing a "tentacle here" outline and it gets completely ignored

[urban spire]

slaanesh and crabs

[storm jungle]

They also get crabs and other weird animalistic features

so WRONG

[urban spire]

khorne and bulls

[rancid cove]

crabs is the ultimate life form so, that tracks

[storm jungle]

[wary fulcrum]

And scorpions
And dogs

[rancid cove]

everything turns into crabs...

https://tenor.com/bdSbm.gif

[heady rivet]

Total crab victory

[wintry scarab]

But why the ass?! I must know the truth!

[heady rivet]

They took "Watch your ass" serious

[rancid cove]

have you ever been shot in the ass?

shit hurts

[urban spire]

maybe it's a cybernetic ass

[heady rivet]

Well not super bad because its fleshy

[wary fulcrum]

Could be to stop the creepy pervs from trying to peak at assassin ass

Oh hey @storm jungle

[rancid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/mambo-gif-4427863147736265234

[urban spire]

it's fine for women to be perverts actually

[arctic talon]

Give the new officio Assasinorum minis nicer asses

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/chiyono-o-sakura-chiyono-o-chiyono-lick-bakushin-armpit-umamusume-lick-gif-5669028878177619698

[wintry scarab]

Omg! I think ive got it! Could it be armour thats meant for doing butt slides? Like cod type beat? I think thats gonna be my head cannon.

[urban spire]

or maybe it's meant to stop you from sliding if you slip on your ass

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/bakushin-sakura-bakushin-o-wit-gif-16232604674326342519

[wintry scarab]

hmmm, maybe. Youve changed my perspective now.

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-gif-16036169316870674622

[urban spire]

or maybe it's meant for some of the more esoteric marksman's positions

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY FUCKING HORSES TODAY

[arctic talon]

The assasin doesn’t have a gun

So prolly not

She’s got a dart shooting mask

Which is cool as shit

But her main weapons are just 2 fancy swords

[wary fulcrum]

The gods do have preferences bestial though

Like Nurgle with maggors, flies and crows, and that one weird snail (like garden bugs I guess)

Tzeentch has vultures, various birds, lot of oceanic themes there

Slaanesh has snakes and crabs, I suppose ant eaters based on the slangor mouths?

Khorne has bulls, dogs, and scorpions

Would be cool to do a project switching those themes though

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-happened-there-gif-18240822558998438526

[urban spire]

gonna be real i'm p sure slaanesh is also tryna muscle in on scorpions

[solid horizon]

do the mutations of a helbrute depend on which chaos entity it is affiliated with ?

[heady rivet]

I got that dawg in me (Mauling toddlers)

[solid horizon]

or does the metal inevitably mix with flesh

[urban spire]

i do wish tzeentch had more weird birds

[wary fulcrum]

I could see it but I think it’s more lobster?

Khorne has stuff like the Brass Scorpion, and Wrathmongers have a scorpion tail mutation (and also a dog head and legs)

[urban spire]

and less literally nonsapient creatures

[wary fulcrum]

I could see owls as tzeentchian

They’re freaky

https://tenor.com/view/owl-eating-owls-owleating-gif-13055572

[urban spire]

did you know owls eyes cant turn in their sockets

too big

[daring creek]

birds cant in general

none of them can

[solid horizon]

** B L O O D S L A U G H T E R E R**

[daring creek]

thats why they can move their heads 360 degrees

[solid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/lober-gif-25002363

most normal khorne daemon engine

[wary fulcrum]

Lobsterghini

[urban spire]

lobter..,.

[solid horizon]

too bad khorne has some of the best looking daemon engines

meanwhile chaos undivided we have

angry dog

idiot dragon

[urban spire]

if you told me that was a kind of imperial knight i wouldn't bother looking closely enough to find the chaos symbol

[solid horizon]

large necron

spider

[arctic talon]

Don’t insult the angry dog smh

I love it

[solid horizon]

I am personally a fan of the large necron

spider can go rot in hell

same with idiot dragon

[wary fulcrum]

I do love how often the Angron butchers nails imagery shows up on the daemon engine

[daring creek]

they do this as a defense mechanism

https://youtu.be/bgcEiXW65Ko

to scare off predators or intruders

like this human

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah good luck trying to convince me that’s not 1 four headed owl

[wary fulcrum]

It works

[daring creek]

lmfao

i wanted to find a better one where they clap their beeaks

[urban spire]

why did the emperor okay butcher's nails

was he fucking stupid

[wary fulcrum]

You could show me them individually and I’d still believe the bond together like Voltron

[wary fulcrum]

He didn’t

Angron asked for a punishment instead of permission

[arctic talon]

He didn’t

[urban spire]

no like

[arctic talon]

Angron just decided to mutilate all his sons and kill anyone who said no

lol

[urban spire]

why didn't he just fucking decommission angron

[arctic talon]

Oh

Who fucking knows

[urban spire]

that one's a dud

[arctic talon]

Angron was gona get euthanized later

[urban spire]

broken

[arctic talon]

I think he wanted to use him as a genocide machine

Then do the ol take behind the shed

[outer wave]

He wanted him as a mediator originally though, no?

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

[wary fulcrum]

Too useful at the time

When you have a son who breaks his toys but makes them better at their job, you can always deal with them when you don’t need the job doing

[arctic talon]

But he got fucking mutilated mentally lol

Might as well use him as a cudgel

[heady rivet]

Angron had the power of being an empath lole

[arctic talon]

I’m an empath

[outer wave]

Just melt him back down into sludge and make another him

[arctic talon]

Which means I feel bad when I murder someone and hack apart their corpse

[heady rivet]

Yeah Big E was like "Might as well have a broken primarch over no primarch"

[arctic talon]

And then carve the flesh off and boil it down and feed it to fish

[wary fulcrum]

No can do unfortunately

The others didn’t want to play ball twice

[opaque coyote]

Chaos Space Marine Angst be like

((He is relatively empathetic))

[arctic talon]

He’s an empath

[storm jungle]

Literally nobody minus that one Librarian he killed knew Angron was an Empath i dont think lol

[arctic talon]

Emperor prolly knew

[opaque coyote]

Truly an Empath

[wary fulcrum]

And I’ll die on the hill that Nucrecia was the only benevolent act the emperor has done

Even accidentally

[outer wave]

Man's like the greatest scientist of humanity, no? Couldnt he have done it and gotten better results?

[storm jungle]

He 100% could

[wary fulcrum]

Die on the hill? Much like the Nucrecians for that matter

[storm jungle]

but for the sake of plot he didnt

the Emperor can literally do ultra-biomancy

[heady rivet]

Love the idea of the Emperor goin "Oh shit they do that?" for like every Primarch

[opaque coyote]

Which is probably why he was disappointed.

Ironically enough, either way Angron would've probably betrayed him. Just for different reasons.

[storm jungle]

"oh no its DAOT tech icant touch it" is such a dumb excuse

[urban spire]

if he's so good why couldn't he figure out girl marines

[outer wave]

TRUE!

[heady rivet]

He was speedrunning, thats the unironic reason

[arctic talon]

Rush job is why

[storm jungle]

He was contractually pbligated by James Workshop

[heady rivet]

The Emperor needed everything done YESTERDAY

[arctic talon]

LOL

[wary fulcrum]

I think Angron’s brain is more nail than brain at that point, and if he wasn’t a primarch he’d be dead already

[urban spire]

fucking GW oversight

ruining everything

[outer wave]

Just make more brain matter and slap it into his brain lmao

[urban spire]

fucking GW, they ruined GW

[outer wave]

There

[opaque coyote]

It's the equivalent of having your only tool be delivered broken.

But instead of ordering and waiting for a long time to get a new one. You just have to make do with it.

[outer wave]

I fixed Angron

[storm jungle]

what the FUCK

[outer wave]

He'll now be called Normogron

[storm jungle]

Dumb plot

next

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-happened-there-gif-18240822558998438526

[opaque coyote]

COCK BREASTS???

[arctic talon]

The chicken looks really well groomed lol

[daring creek]

https://youtu.be/3Km-jtXueTw

[wary fulcrum]

Think of it this way

You take the nails out, he flatlines for a split micro second

And never comes back

Might happen

Leaving the nails in? He’s unstable and a dickhead, but you don’t need nice and stable

[daring creek]

I love all the sounds birds can make

[opaque coyote]

Should've just had the Emperor EXPLICITLY be like

"Yeah I could fix it butt I really don't want to."

[daring creek]

;;

[heady rivet]

Yeah, the Iron Nails were also keeping him alive. It was a dead Angron or Iron Nails Angron. And Emps thought the short-term cost was meh

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats why i hate it

[opaque coyote]

That's my headcanon anyways.

[storm jungle]

nothing to headcannon

we literally see what he says

lmao

[outer wave]

Okay, but I'm Emperor, the best scientist there is, I could fix him AND Im a psyker, so I could bring his soul back or whatever the fuck

[urban spire]

pigeons are so cute

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think the Author intended for him to be like

"Oh No, I really can't fix it!" Which is the stupid part

Like yes you can

[storm jungle]

All authors love glazing the emperor

[storm jungle]

It just makes no sense, ignore it lol

[arctic talon]

Are doves albino pigeons

[heady rivet]

Again, speedrun. He needs a Primarch NOW

[storm jungle]

"Speedrun"

he literally could heal him in 10s

[wary fulcrum]

Could is not guaranteed to

Whereas you have most of a primarch right there and waiting

[storm jungle]

he just doesnt because plot

[wary fulcrum]

Plus, Angron might have killed E if he was okay

[opaque coyote]

Time waste.

[urban spire]

subspecies afaik

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-checked-false-cowpoke-pooner-qianlong-gif-462743977075719081

[opaque coyote]

Need to get to the Imperium ending ASAP

[arctic talon]

Neat

[storm jungle]

shut up Mundaboingo

anyway I love the lenghts people go to excuse this shit

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-checked-true-cowpoke-pooner-qianlong-gif-3827914201118197286

[storm jungle]

the Emperor can literally do anything the writers want until its not plot relevant

hes literally doctor manhattan lol

[urban spire]

except die, apparently

[storm jungle]

Horusian backshots*

[wary fulcrum]

That’s plot relevant

Got to keep the guy alive

[storm jungle]

Also that lol

the Emperor cannot fix Angron because hes a chaos primarch in 40k

[urban spire]

no come on

[storm jungle]

simple as

[urban spire]

dark age 2 lets go

it'll be fun

let the imperium of man fall it would be so cool

[storm jungle]

CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER-

[wary fulcrum]

I do think the Virtuous Man speech in Betrayer does indicate a healed Angron would have tried to kill E, and Angron only doesn’t because of the nails

[storm jungle]

Nah he 100% would

the guy isnt a hypocrite like Corax

[arctic talon]

Angron already wanted to kill the emperor

lol

With the nails

[wary fulcrum]

Exactly

Maybe the nails are the only thing keeping E alive

[urban spire]

like genuinely, unironically, the imperium actually going to shit and the weird feudal system falling apart would be so cool

[storm jungle]

It likely will

[wary fulcrum]

He’d seen the future of a healthy Angron and thought ‘best not’

[storm jungle]

we are just like uh

30 IRL years away

lol

[arctic talon]

I’d say 40

lol

[storm jungle]

LOL

[heady rivet]

The Imperium should make Necromunda the new capital 5ever

[urban spire]

i need this to happen before i turn 40

[storm jungle]

yeah i very much think GW will eventually do this

[wary fulcrum]

Yes

[storm jungle]

prob after like all the primarchs are back

sloppa

[storm jungle]

LMAO

NOOOOOOOOO

[wary fulcrum]

Gerontius bossing them around with his mad attack dog Haera and super nerd assassin Timmy just chilling in the back

Let’s gooooo

[urban spire]

i also want that old shitass /tg/ canon to be real, where leman russ turned into a little anime girl and that's why he hasn't come back

[heady rivet]

Kiss the wall

[urban spire]

just to really ruin the days of anyone who likes space wolves

[arctic talon]

The funny thing is that the PC in that video prolly was just white and they saw a chance to make into into the super Israel pc for a meme

[storm jungle]

[outer wave]

We'll get our 40k end times by then

[storm jungle]

nah we wont

[heady rivet]

Warhammer 50k

[arctic talon]

Not unless some horrid shit happens

lol

[storm jungle]

but i legit think GW will do warlord era Imperium at some point

[arctic talon]

Like with whfb

Yeah

I agree

[storm jungle]

they very much know people prefer the rebellion angle of 40k

also it would make diverse armies

thus more money

we are just REALLY far away from that rn

[outer wave]

10,000 years later, its just more diesel/gothicpunk than whatever we got currently

[urban spire]

points of light 40k, city states (planets) 40k, would be so fucking cool

[arctic talon]

GW needs to get every army in modern plastic first

lol

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

They’re getting there

[heady rivet]

"You must be Chinas basest warlord if you think we're fucking"
Me:

[arctic talon]

It’s just drukhari and grey knights left

Who aren’t 99% modern plastic

[wary fulcrum]

An unfortunate amount would be into it

That’s the problem

[storm jungle]

CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER

🗣️

[arctic talon]

https://x.com/catskaiser/status/2035379367233405314?s=46&t=bpvC926CKkKsiDdaxKNWWw

傲慢天音（烤馒头形态🇹🇼） (@catskaiser)

我的timeline已被国民党占领😭

X · Mar 21, 2026, 3:33 PM

[urban spire]

just drop grey knights, pretend that didn't happen

it's not retconning if you just never mention them again and never update their codex

[storm jungle]

what marine Chapter is that

[heady rivet]

In the future the Imperium decides every man must become a Space Marine and every woman must become a SOB and every human faction is remodelled as such

[wary fulcrum]

I’d say yeah, but my dad is patiently waiting for them to come back to I can paint his army for him like I did when they first dropped, and he’s been going through a lot and I think it would help

[arctic talon]

LOL

[urban spire]

i am going to seduce your dad and then break his heart

[heady rivet]

My friend has a Marine painted in Israeli colors and the cleanest free-hand Star of David on the pauldron

[wary fulcrum]

You know, he could do with some more friends, so good luck trooper

[urban spire]

there will be a couple months where you'll have to call me mom though

[wary fulcrum]

The things I do for that man

[vagrant fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/780813526566436904/1459261017774096506/shek.mp4?ex=69c18e3a&is=69c03cba&hm=39f0a1dda205d231c3ffd3a3376bf85e86cecd48fa7da40ccf955e87ac26c173&

[arctic talon]

Does the guy crank 90’s on civilians during “liberation” missions?

[wary fulcrum]

Plays a helldiver who always drops Charlie 500’s on SEAF

[heady rivet]

He is the Emperors chosen chapter you cant call him out on that also its a good thing it happened even if it didnt happen because it didint they made that up

[opaque coyote]

Y'know the worst part?

It's that would totally fit the Imperium.

And I don't mean it in a joking way. At least not fully.

After all, the Star of David wasn't originally used exclusively by Jews. It was meant as a symbol to protect from evil spirits

[opaque coyote]

Why does that look good

Please tell your friend

[heady rivet]

Because my friend is a good painter

[urban spire]

man that fucking sucks lmao

[opaque coyote]

"Nice figurine, and also go fuck yourself."

[urban spire]

and i don't mean the quality of the paintjob

[arctic talon]

My god that’s fucking clean LOL

[wary fulcrum]

Is it rage bait?

[arctic talon]

It’s the free Intercessor

lol

[opaque coyote]

I think the worst part is that the color scheme actually works

It actually looks aesthetically pleasing

That is easily the worst part of this.

[urban spire]

israel has not made me antisemitic but it's made me real wary of the star of david

[solid horizon]

ad mech has a decal/letter that looks suspiciously like david's star

[heady rivet]

By the way. ||He is German||

[opaque coyote]

I don't associate the star of David with Israel. Despite them using it as a symbol.

It was meant to ward against evil. They are using it incorrectly.

[urban spire]

and it's made me real biased whenever i see it in war thunder

[urban spire]

using it to keep the evil in, don't want to risk becoming less evil

[heady rivet]

I dunno but he doesnt like Israel now so I think it was a bit iirc

[outer wave]

I wonder how Jewish people could win back the Star of David so its not associated with Israel and IDF

[arctic talon]

They destroy Israel/j

[wary fulcrum]

I’m of the view that all non-canon religious, political and national iconography should be kept away from the hobby

[heady rivet]

They destroy israel /SERIOUS

[opaque coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/550869975385112606/1349317152850579486/cannyArrive-4x.gif

[arctic talon]

The answer is there’s no solution

You gotta live with it now

lol

[opaque coyote]

I might be forever tainted like the swastika.

Which is probably the saddest part

[arctic talon]

Shit happens

[urban spire]

not as bad as the swastika

[opaque coyote]

True

[opaque coyote]

But it is still hard to remove the sin

Either way

[wary fulcrum]

No, but it’s co-opted a religious symbol, one used by people from across the world who don’t support the regime, to argue that criticism of the regime is criticism of those people

[urban spire]

it's stained for sure

[opaque coyote]

I don't think it matters

[urban spire]

not to worry, the finnish air force will use it as their new logo

[heady rivet]

Yeah its dusty because he plays Khorne

[heady rivet]

"Tell them that their chapter got promised this sector 3 millenia ago"

[opaque coyote]

...

The jokes literally write themselves

But also based choi-

Oh yeah also

Favorite Chaos Gods in order

(including wannabes and minor ones)

1. Khorne
2. Vashtorr
3. Slaanesh
4. Malice
5. Nurgle
6. Tzeentch
7. Belakor

What about you?

[heady rivet]

Malice at rank 4 should see you committed to an insane asylum the likes this earth hasnt known since 1850

[opaque coyote]

tbf the concept carries it

Nurgle is lower purely because the idea terrifies me viscerally

[opaque coyote]

LMAO

[opaque coyote]

But honestly what terrifies me more is themes of abuse and stuff

[languid meadow]

Be'lakor being lower than fucking MALICE bro

crying

[opaque coyote]

40k Belakor needs to be on fraud watch

Fantasy (and AOS) is different

[heady rivet]

Jk mine is probably like

1. Khorne
2. Slaanesh
3. Tzeentch
4. Vashtorr
5. Belakor
6. Nurgle
7. Malice

[opaque coyote]

But for 40k? Absolute fraud

[languid meadow]

Vashtorr and Belakor are higher for me since like they'll still fuck you over

just way less than the major gods

[opaque coyote]

40k Belakor is just kinda boring to me.

Vashtorr is interesting in terms of his domain and concept

Along with his character

I like the idea of a Chaos God that doesn't outright betray you

Instead they betray you because you missed a clause line in the contract

They laid out the terms and conditions fully, in detail.

It isn't their fault that you scrolled past to accept

[urban spire]

you need to bump down khorne, he'd kill you for being a nerd

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Malice is also on Fraud Watch in terms of power. But he's interesting enough

[languid meadow]

isn't bel being the master of the forge only a TW thing

I totatly forgot because I can't find it in the fantasy lex

[opaque coyote]

Tbf

He would literally kill all of us

We're in #40k-lore-chat

The fact that we're talking and not slaughtering each other is already something he doesn't like

[urban spire]

not me, being an anarchist gives me just enough cred to squeak by

he'd kill me for the sorcery though for sure

[opaque coyote]

That just makes you closer to Slaanesh

You want things to be better

Actually probably Tzeentch?

[urban spire]

yep

god of hope

[opaque coyote]

Because Anarchism still requires a lot of planning

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/HBigMan_/status/2035810315238068292?s=20

Hobbs 🫐 (@HBigMan_)

life as an Ultramarine fan watching Steel Legion discourse and Custodes drama resurface

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[urban spire]

that too

[opaque coyote]

And faith/hope in humanity

[languid meadow]

what did I miss with custodes tf

[opaque coyote]

I have no idea I haven't checked 40k social media

Besides this one

[wary fulcrum]

I’m screaming every word I type

I just type then in lowercase

[wary fulcrum]

I’ve not seen anything mind

The steel legion stuff is disingenuous and funny

[languid meadow]

all I know is that the new custode models instantly sold out

[urban spire]

that's a lot of uppercase I's for someone who's typing everything in lowercase

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, considering World Eaters are actually fairly chill when the nails aren't biting. Fairly well read and philosophical also.

I'm imagining them arguing like the virtues of Nieztsche but while screaming and punching each other

[languid meadow]

I mean... I think people can be mad when GW posted that video ngl

[wary fulcrum]

Autocorrect betrays me

[urban spire]

be smart, lobotomize your phone

[opaque coyote]

"WHEN HE SAID 'GOD IS DEAD' THAT REFERS TO THE OVERALL ESTABLISHMENT OF ORGANIZED RELIGION AND HOW IT CONTROLS THE MASSES!!!"

"NO, IT CLEARLY MEANS THE CONCEPT OF GOD ITSELF AS A BEACON TO FOLLOW AND GAIN MEANING RASAFHHH"

[storm jungle]

It was tied to people constantly going "they wont sell because DEI woke pandering model set"

but uh as you saw it instantly told out lmao

[opaque coyote]

Bru

[storm jungle]

ye

[wary fulcrum]

I’ve been in the hobby for 28 years, played across tournaments and in clubs all over

The only people who mentioned the Steel Legion, were actual Steel Legion players, and there weren’t many of them.

People now pretending they loved the Legion as the bestest regiment make me side eye

[opaque coyote]

40k fans will get into drama for the Emperor's left toenail being slightly longer istg

[storm jungle]

ye

[cerulean trellis]

i can get behind that, prolly switch khoren and tzeenthc though

[jade holly]

I’ve heard enough, release a new Votann Battleforce box

[urban spire]

"go woke go broke" failing to manifest literally every single time

[cerulean trellis]

maybe slanesh 1st ... hmmmmm

[jade holly]

[languid meadow]

I'm pissed because I MISSED IT

[wary fulcrum]

To be honest, if I didn’t need an Authenticator app for uni I’d lash smart phones altogether

[languid meadow]

LET ME BE WOKE GIVE ME MY CUSTODES

[opaque coyote]

I guess you could say Concord.

But it clearly went broke due to a multitude of factors

So

They're always wrong

[urban spire]

yep

[opaque coyote]

Diversity is neat

[languid meadow]

again I think the point being is that if GW didn't post that krieg video it wouldn't be as bad ngl

[opaque coyote]

Also have you seen fujoshi's?

Clearly

Going woke = getting bank

I couldn't think of a rhyme

[wary fulcrum]

I know that these mentions very rarely affect the stock market, and the dip after the female minis were shown were due to the trade threats at the time

But the female custode change also coincides with a jump in share value, and it’s really funny to watch chuds rage when you point that out

[urban spire]

go fash no cash

[opaque coyote]

Banger

Stealing that

[jade holly]

I’m just biding my time for the IW box

[arctic talon]

Black rifle coffee tastes like boots because it’s the fash’s favorite flavor

[jade holly]

couldn’t care less about the Newstodes and Steel Legion discourse cause I don’t play them

[opaque coyote]

Custodes are cool

Yeah

Yuh

That's it

[urban spire]

i have no feelings about these things

[opaque coyote]

I mean anybody who has seen a woman within the past decade would probably not care

[wary fulcrum]

My mate is a q-grader for coffee

Black rifle is, and I quote ‘very well marketed average quality coffee’

[arctic talon]

It’s over roasted as shit

The quality is fine

But god it’s fucking bitter

[cerulean trellis]

passes by the custodes to pick out the SoS minis and leaves happily

[opaque coyote]

Although I had an idea. Not really with any direction.

Where like...

There's a stock of thrown away Geneseed while Cawl was working on Primaris.

A group of Chaos SMs desperately steal it to replenish their numbers. For some strange reason there's like zero security.

When they get back and analyze it.

They discover that it's defective...

In that it only works on women.

[opaque coyote]

Cawl just fucked it up and accidentally inverted the sex it worked on

[wary fulcrum]

Don’t say that, that’s the best shit

I do my mates head in because my coffee tastes are ‘absolute shit cheap nastiness and sawdust’ or ‘actual gold wanked out of an over caffeinated zebra’ and I actively dislike anything in between

[urban spire]

throwing cawl in the toilet

[opaque coyote]

Which one

Jk

[jade holly]

4 days until peak

https://tenor.com/view/borderlands-borderlands-4-bl4-c4sh-c4sh-the-rogue-gif-13828491621126595838

[urban spire]

what

smite?

[jade holly]

BL4 dlc

[opaque coyote]

But yeah, because the CSMs are fucking desperate.

They still use it anyways.

Like fucking creeps, they kidnap little girls and do the whole space marine training thing.

[jade holly]

New dlc vault hunter

[urban spire]

oh even worse

or maybe the same amount of worse

[jade holly]

He’s a voodoo gambling gunslinger

[wary fulcrum]

I’m going to have to finally buy that, aren’t I?

[opaque coyote]

So now there's just a bunch of crazy, chaotic, female super soldiers.

[urban spire]

idk if cawl is the dude to put on the cover for that

[wary fulcrum]

Is BL4 worth getting?

I want it buy I’m trying to save money

[opaque coyote]

They often get mistaken for sisters

[outer wave]

Tech Priests.... are woke???

[jade holly]

I’ve been enjoying it, but late game is a bit bland atm

[opaque coyote]

TRANSHUMANISM

THEY WERE ALWAYS WOKE!!!

[languid meadow]

baseyd

[outer wave]

Oh mein gott.... the transhumanists are trans.....

[urban spire]

ironically a lot of transhumanists are transphobes

irl

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I basically just imagined Cawl was like

"Okay so this changed literally nothing besides the sex it works on. I'm just gonna dump it somewhere."

[opaque coyote]

Which is stupid

Like

[urban spire]

yeah

you don't have to tell me

[opaque coyote]

It is literally modifying your body

What

You'd think they would be all in

On that shit

[cerulean trellis]

this always makes me laugh xD

well they wanna transcend humanity ... not gender, duhhh end sarcasm

[opaque coyote]

Besides researching to have better transitioning would be a step in transhumanism.

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/AlexJayBrady/status/2035656854802465056?s=20

Alex Jay Brady 🥶 (@AlexJayBrady)

Shai-Hulud chasing damaged thopter #Dune

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[opaque coyote]

Like if someone can become fully male or fully female

Then viola

More things are possible

[urban spire]

i'm literally on the bleeding edge of transhumanism here and they're like "erm actually it's only transhumanism when you put a magnet in your finger and fuck up your nerves permanently in exchange for being able to do a little party trick for a couple months"

[spring cairn]

ITS VOILA

NOT VIOLA

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I misspelled it

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/viola-scale-c-gif-27386295

[opaque coyote]

Oppsie

[jade holly]

Viola

[opaque coyote]

[jade holly]

[wary fulcrum]

I disagree

[spring cairn]

viola means something

else

[opaque coyote]

Vagina

[spring cairn]

no

[opaque coyote]

Tit

[cerulean trellis]

Boobies

[opaque coyote]

[wary fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/pèdro-pedro-viola-pedro-viola-pèdro-viola-gif-21516107

[opaque coyote]

Why can't we have both smh

Tbf there's a lot of interesting arguments about the concept of transhumanism

Like how much would it be considered eugenics

If transhumanism becomes popular and people start modifying their bodies like Cyberpunk

[jade holly]

If I can’t flip someone off with 5 robot hands at once then I’m not interested

[urban spire]

yeah we can't be doing that shit under capitalism

[opaque coyote]

People with purely organic would be at a disadvantage

[urban spire]

"you need 3 years of experience and you can only work here if you have shovel hands"

[opaque coyote]

It would be like not having a smartphone now

[opaque coyote]

Cyberpunk moment

Johnny being the most based... Sociopathic Narcissist

[urban spire]

hey dark triad traits often show up in people we usually consider heroic as well

[paper haven]

How many metropolitan areas have they nuked?

[urban spire]

the whole sociopaths and narcissists are evil thing is fucked

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it's not like the other people who rebelled are worse than Johnny. Johnny was just an asshole in particular.

[urban spire]

johnny sucks though

[opaque coyote]

True. But he's somewhat accurate to what rebellions can attract.

Never as clean as some movies make it out to be

As a character, fucking fantastic

[urban spire]

but like firefighters and EMTs and shit often classify

[opaque coyote]

Yeah psychopaths and sociopaths aren't necessarily evil

[heady rivet]

In every cyberpunk or cyberpunk-adjacent setting I instantly think the coolest people are the villains because the corporate hit squads look cool. Glory to the shareholder, you will live in the company-town megastructure

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Cyberpunk is always about aesthetic first, logic second

[urban spire]

"i want to be loved by people for doing good" is explicitly a narcissistic trait

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, it's more so how you handle it.

And how much of it you have

[urban spire]

in moderation it's healthy, in extremes it's self harm

[opaque coyote]

That makes you a severe one

[paper haven]

The defining qualities of a psychopath are their megalomania and narcissism. They aren't necessarily violent.

[heady rivet]

Robot arm and a laser sighted SMG is really all you need

[opaque coyote]

Narcissists are often harmful because they can't manage it.

But there do exists people that can

Even when diagnosed

[urban spire]

also both psychopath and sociopath are legal definitions not medical ones

[opaque coyote]

Overall, it's complicated and never black and white

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that whole area is weird. Insanity is also a legal definition

Technically, what we think as Psychopaths and Sociopaths would be classified as having Anti-social personality disorder according to the DSM-5

Thanks Psychology class

[jade holly]

Aren’t some psychopaths extremely good in the medical field? Idk just wondering

[paper haven]

What was the other condition I always see come up?
Borderline personality disorder

[urban spire]

yeah they can be good at literally anything they're just people

[opaque coyote]

That's an entirely different thing

[urban spire]

beautiful princess disorder i have first hand experience with

[jade holly]

Like I mean specifically like with surgery they can be more precise with surgical tools or something idk

[paper haven]

As do I, unfortunately.

[opaque coyote]

Because being able to cut open somebody and not feel squeamish is a good quality

[heady rivet]

I love BPDemons who else would threaten to stab me and accuse me of trying to fuck her mom after a perfectly normal day

[urban spire]

turned out well for me, polycule dealt with a gentle hand, grew by one member

[paper haven]

They gaslight themselves and blame me for it.

[heady rivet]

Gaslight? Stop making up words

[opaque coyote]

Yeah those are what we call

"shitheads"

[urban spire]

mental illness is not your fault but it is your problem

[paper haven]

Exes, in my case.

Not my problem anymore.

[opaque coyote]

Gaslighting is proof that God is a programmer because that definitely feels like a bug that he didn't bother to fix because it's "too small"

[urban spire]

bpd folks don't mean to be Like That, and given the option would rather not be

[paper haven]

Oh I know. Still, they are like that.

[opaque coyote]

I do not believe God is perfect because like

If he was

Then we wouldn't be like this

If he exists anyways

Jury's still on whether he's benevolent or evil or whatever the fuck

But he definitely ain't perfect

[paper haven]

I have decided that if God exists and is perfect, then this was all on purpose.

[opaque coyote]

Because who else would make the human spine and think

"Hmmm yup that'll be good."

Evolution is literally a rush job

It's basically just mother nature going

"Fuck it, that's good enough"

[jade holly]

I always saw it as we have free will, what we do is our choice to do. The whole gaslighting thing is our active choice to do it

[opaque coyote]

Fair point

Either way

Please patch thx

I'm sending a bug report when I die

Istg

[paper haven]

Also the bug that makes falling eyelashes land in my eye.

[urban spire]

where's the fuckin log out button i need a break

i don't wanna stop playing necessarily i just need to get up and walk around a little before i get back in

[jade holly]

That’s called a long duration sleep

[paper haven]

Sorry, no pause button. Best you can hope for is to return to lobby.

[opaque coyote]

Sleeping

[urban spire]

no the fuck it aint i've slept before there's dreams and shit

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's the pause menu secret games

[jade holly]

Smh that’s what you’re doing while taking a break

[opaque coyote]

To entertain yourself

Or to get tortured

Either/or

[paper haven]

Sleeping is more like speeding up time.

[urban spire]

i beat dreams ages ago they cannot bother me

[heady rivet]

Smoking that shit that helped Venom Snake win the Soviet-Afghan war

[paper haven]

I'm still grinding out achievements.

[urban spire]

i had night terrors well into my 20s, regular dreams can't even get close to harming me

[paper haven]

For which side?

[jade holly]

I’m in a constant state of stress and paranoia, being calm and at ease scares me because something feels wrong

[urban spire]

and before someone says some smartass shit, a night terror isn't a scary dream, it's closer to a seizure you have while you're sleeping

[heady rivet]

Emphasis on win

[opaque coyote]

I don't remember most of my dreams.

But I remember one where all of my past OCS came to try and kill me

[urban spire]

and they persist for a little while after you wake up

[opaque coyote]

I distinctly remember stabbing one on the throat

Fuck you Katie

[paper haven]

It's an alternate timeline, the end result could be different.

[opaque coyote]

She's also like a demon 6 year old kid?

[urban spire]

i fucking sent a friend of mine a system shock death log of messages once after waking up from a night terror it scared the shit out of him lmao

[opaque coyote]

DO YOU BELIEVE THERE IS A SOUL HACKER?

LET US FIND OUT TOGETHER

On a tangent because autism + interest

I think my favorite part of the remake is how they wrote Shodan

[paper haven]

Auterest

[heady rivet]

When I take my addy I textwall a lot to one friend

[opaque coyote]

Mainly how she became sorta spiritual

It makes sense given that she uses Shintoism to justify her existence and godhood

She genuinely believes that she is the spirit of Citadel Station

[urban spire]

i should play the remake

[opaque coyote]

It's a unique take on an AI

[paper haven]

As a religion, Shintoism is pretty interesting

[opaque coyote]

Instead of them being Uber logical and cold

Shodan dives into the paranormal

To justify her existence

It's human

[paper haven]

Better than the Master, who you can gaslight into committing suicide.

[urban spire]

i actually really liked how clunky the UI in the original system shock was, really made you feel like you're some shithead who woke up after going from virgin human to most cybered up person in existence who still has free will

[opaque coyote]

I am assuming you are talking about the FO1 Master

[paper haven]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

In which case, you actually need proof

To do the explode ending

If you don't have anything he's like

"You're obviously bullshitting me."

And even after showing him the proof, he denied for a second and you have to select the right dialogue to break through to him

If you select the wrong one, he still tries to kill you. Denying the literal proof right in front of his eyes

[paper haven]

I know, I know I'm just saying that as hyperbole.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[urban spire]

the FO1 ending where you talk the master into ending it is such a fucking lib power fantasy

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I always thought that it was because he realized that everything he did was literally pointless

And that all of the atrocities he committed was for nothing

[paper haven]

AI when it gets the first taste of nihilism.

[urban spire]

yeah of course it is

but that is the lib power fantasy

the lib thinks if you give them like 2 hours alone with trump they can turn him to good with their solid rhetoric or whatever

[opaque coyote]

Tbf if you select the wrong option, even after showing him proof, he does go into full-blown denial and tries to kill you

[rancid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-goty-the-game-awards-the-game-awards-2025-diablo-gif-1352433554911783208

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-desmond-smiling-friends-desmond-gif-25082612

[paper haven]

Even after watching all those Libs DESTROYED with facts and logic videos on YouTube?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the remake does clean it up ALOT but it still keeps the feeling of the UI.

Even keeps the weird graph things that literally mean nothing.

Also if you are familiar with the original game's level design

It's kept mostly the same

[urban spire]

"i'm different"

[opaque coyote]

Very few changes on that front

[paper haven]

I wish I was that confident.

[opaque coyote]

The gameplay and story was improved but they also kept the confusing level design

Also it doesn't hold your hand

[opaque coyote]

At most, if you go on the lowest difficulty for the story, it does actually give you a quest marker

[jade holly]

Can’t wait for the Yarrick Ghazghkull rematch in Armageddon 4

[opaque coyote]

But past the lowest setting, you still have to pay attention like the old system shock

[paper haven]

I know it's a stupid narrative choice to bring Yarric back and the phasing out of the Steel Legion on their own planet is dumb as hell, but I'm happy he's back.

[urban spire]

"surely if i platform this creationist who literally never argues in good faith one more time i can show everyone how wrong he is"

[opaque coyote]

Basically the remake is System Shock.

If it wasn't clunky as shit

In terms of gameplay

Because even not including the hud

It did not age well purely gameplay wise holy shit

Literally released before the mouse even existed

Thank god for enhanced edition because I tried an emulation of the original

[urban spire]

nah it's got mouse controls

[paper haven]

I never played System shock

[opaque coyote]

Keyboard aiming

Keyboard aiming.

[opaque coyote]

You should try the renake

Make sure you got a pen and paper though

You're gonna need to write shit fown

[urban spire]

you can mouse aim, however the mouse doesn't move the camera, you're just clicking on the screen where you want to shoot

[opaque coyote]

It doesn't hold your hand at all

[paper haven]

I hear good things about it but haven't gotten around to it

[urban spire]

it kinda rules

[rancid cove]

I hope Yarrick fucking dies to him

[opaque coyote]

Again

Pain

[urban spire]

i think it's a good simulation of what it's like if your entire body was asleep and you had to pilot it remotely

[opaque coyote]

I am fucking 21 years old

[paper haven]

That reminds me of how FPS games were before the dual shocks came out. You had to hold down a button to aim and couldn't move around because you used the D-pad to move the crosshairs

[opaque coyote]

I was not born in the era

Nor did I play

Games like this when I was a kod

Pain

[urban spire]

hey i've only got a little over a decade on you, i didn't grow up with DOS either

that shit was retro when i played it too

[opaque coyote]

It's probably a preference for control tbh

[paper haven]

Damn, how old am I?

[opaque coyote]

Cause I don't like it

At all

It feels too awful

Laser Rapier still fucking rocks though

Hail the laser rapier

[urban spire]

idk what my first shooter was, half life? medal of honor?

[opaque coyote]

Why use gun when I have laser sword

And drugs

[jade holly]

Doom

oh wait

[urban spire]

anyway i had mouse controls

[jade holly]

You asked your first shooter nvm

[opaque coyote]

I couldn't finish the original due to one thing though.

The cyberspace sections

Genuinely

Genuinely made me feel sick

[jade holly]

Pretty sure mine was either Halo or… Skyrim

[paper haven]

Mine was Medal of honor: Underground. Wherein you played as a french woman killing literally thousands of German soldiers single-handedly.

[urban spire]

i thought the cyberspace sections looked so sick when i was a kid

now as an adult

THEY STILL LOOK FUCKING SICK

[opaque coyote]

I cannot play that shit

It hurts my eyes

[urban spire]

Y'ALL ARE COUGHING BABIES

[opaque coyote]

It makes me want to hurl

Literally

I'm not joking

I am kinda sensitive to that type of shit

[urban spire]

night terrors made me strong, i cannot be harmed by weird visuals

[paper haven]

I remember seeing Halo from the first time and it blew my mind.

[urban spire]

i went to the protein dimension and saw the Bad Lines

i knew real terror

[vagrant fox]

if you have visual psychosis simply ignore it

protip

[opaque coyote]

Comparing Half Life to other games of the era is kinda shocking

The gold source engine

And the source engine is

Fucking technological magic

[urban spire]

half life scared the absolute shit out of me lmao

[opaque coyote]

It was the loud noises

Wasn't it?

[vagrant fox]

It was very spooky as a lad

[paper haven]

Source engine probably required ritualistic sacrifice to create it is insane for the time.

[jade holly]

Wanna know my scariest moment in a game?

[opaque coyote]

Cause I admit it did kinda jump scare me a bit at times

[jade holly]

Killer Croc’s lair in Arkham Asylum

[urban spire]

nah i just thought the lab and the headcrabs and shit was too scary

[jade holly]

I was 8 at the time

[paper haven]

Dude, 343 Guilty Spark gave me nightmares.

[urban spire]

i was 7 when half life came out

[opaque coyote]

I still think the one visual that I think did actually unnerve me was the

Headcrabbed scientist convulsing in front of a flashing computer

[vagrant fox]

This or Hexen was my first FPS, shit ruled

[jade holly]

Wanna know something crazy?

[paper haven]

At least in Half life, you knew something was weird from the start.

[opaque coyote]

Like I think that is one of the most memorable visuals

[jade holly]

Black Ops 2 and Halo 4 released the same year

[opaque coyote]

Of the entire half life series

Emphasis on one of

[opaque coyote]

Ironically I think Halo 4 was one of the first

For me

[urban spire]

rough start

[opaque coyote]

I thought that shit was awesome

[paper haven]

Tragic

[opaque coyote]

Looking back

[jade holly]

My first Halo was CE Anniversary

[urban spire]

my first halo was halo on the egg box

[paper haven]

By itself, Halo 4 is probably pretty alright, but if you've played the previous games it is a huge disappointment.

[opaque coyote]

Honestly the campaign is basically the equivalent of fucking Vietnam.

I weirdly like constantly running out of ammo?

Idk it just made things feel intense

[paper haven]

That's a feature from the first game.

[opaque coyote]

I still hate the fact that half of the forerunner weapons are

Fucking

Worthless

[paper haven]

Also, Forerunners were supposed to just be humans.

[urban spire]

it's so funny how halo had to remove all the marathon imagery because bungie stopped making halo games and they still own the marathon ip

[paper haven]

That's why the covenant freaked out, it is a central plot point

[urban spire]

that shit was building to a marathon tie-in reveal and then it just

[opaque coyote]

I still think the story of Halo 4 is genuinely good.

It definitely has flaws.

But I do think Cortana's death was still well executed and still breaks my heart a bit.

...so of course Halo 5 ruined it completely

[urban spire]

whoops, bungie gone

[jade holly]

Or the Destiny reference in…. 3?

[opaque coyote]

That's true. But I think Bungie retconned it by Halo 3

[vagrant fox]

Gang is Requiem Infernal or Darkness Eternal the next one to get

for my little books

[opaque coyote]

But that is also

Debatable

People are still arguing about it

Personally it makes sense that it was retconned around Halo 3

Halo 1 definitely intended the forerunners to be human

[urban spire]

halo was gonna tie into marathon's bullshit

[paper haven]

From what I hear, the retcons came during and around Halo 4.

[urban spire]

it woulda been cool imo

[paper haven]

But things were starting to unravel around Halo 3 so maybe

[opaque coyote]

Personally I think that would've been a nightmare given how fucking confusing Marathon can get

[urban spire]

that's the entire appeal!

[opaque coyote]

Also I think I do prefer Halo being separate

Overall

But I do want to see how it would've tied in fully

[urban spire]

i think it turned out for the better, overall

some marathon stuff showed up in destiny

[opaque coyote]

I think 343's Halo universe isn't bad.

The gameplay just soured it to the point where people are overly critical

And also some admittedly dogshit decisions

Halo 5

[urban spire]

the fact they never properly reckoned with how master chief is working for the badguys sucks

[jade holly]

Is the Dies Irae the largest titan in 40k?

[opaque coyote]

Tackle the Insurgency and ONI betraying Master Chief? ❌

Ruin the story of the literal first Halo game you made? ✅

[opaque coyote]

I think it's mentioned that Dies Irae is 43 meters in Horus Rising

[opaque coyote]

But yeah something that I always thought was the logical choice was

For the Insurgency to be a topic

Like it was only put off due to the literal alien invasion

And even then there was still activity from people wanting to split

I obviously think that Master Chief should've been in something different.

A more morally complicated battle

Since the first 3 Halo games are based on fighting the Covenant

Aliens who want to destroy humanity

Obviously, that's fairly morally obvious

Kill aliens so that humanity can live from an actual genocide

But I always thought that Chief having to tackle his original darker purpose, suppressing Insurgents, would've been interesting

[wary fulcrum]

he was decent at that in the book i read

[urban spire]

i read the first three novels when i was a kid

they were fine i guess, passable to kid brain

[wary fulcrum]

i meant he was decent at killing regular people

[sacred ginkgo]

Thought he was exceptional at it

[urban spire]

master cheese isn't that compelling a character

[vagrant fox]

As ever only the evils are the interesting, typical fictionslop

[paper haven]

John Halo always felt kind of bland

[near wasp]

I've been lore dumping on my boss all day at work

[heady rivet]

I'd fire you and the rage caused by you would cause me to hire union-breakers to savagely beat your former coworkers

[near wasp]

He got space marine two so I've finally told him about the primarchs.

[dapper gyro]

Assimilate them all.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it's because he was originally a self insert

And basically was that for up until 4

All of the other Spartans surrounding him, the UNSC, and the Covenant are more interesting

If anybody dislikes Sgt. Johnson

They're blind and deaf

And also can't read braille

Master Chief only really begun to have more of a character around 3

And it was followed up on by 4

[urban spire]

did he ever do sloppy alien makeouts with arbitrator

[arctic talon]

No

[opaque coyote]

And they honestly could have gone farther with it but 5 kinda derailed that

[arctic talon]

because Halo 3 is a bad game

story wise

[urban spire]

pointless series smh

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Halo 3 is dead ass worse then Halo 4 story wise

Halo 4 is just ass in a lot of other ways

[opaque coyote]

The TV show but the TV show is actually the worst thing ever

Also the Arbiter doesn't exist

There's a female human stand in for the arbiter

[urban spire]

i watched the tv show, it's better because he gets to attempted murder his shitass eugenics mom

[arctic talon]

Anyways marty o donnell's writing was all dogshit

lol

for Halo

[opaque coyote]

Ehhh

Nah

[arctic talon]

It really shows with Halo 3

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

because he got to do most of the writing

[opaque coyote]

Halsey almost dying is great but

That's nowhere close enough to save it

[arctic talon]

I didn't bother watching the TV show

because I heard bad things about it

lol

[urban spire]

it would have been actually good if he'd gone through with it

[opaque coyote]

Don't

It's ass

Like completely and utterly ass

[arctic talon]

I watched a marine get smoked by a needler

lol

in a clip

[urban spire]

it's a completely average scifi tv show

[opaque coyote]

The action is pretty good

But the writers literally have never played a single Halo game

Or liked Halo

Which is

[arctic talon]

Anyways Halo infinite wastes the Banished

by making them look like the covenant

[opaque coyote]

Very good decision making

[arctic talon]

literally had a whole aesthetic going

chucked it almost all out the window lol

[opaque coyote]

The Banished were an interesting idea but we're wasted

[urban spire]

im talking all this shit but i'm literally downloading marathon right now

[opaque coyote]

Just like the Covenant Remnant in Halo 4

[urban spire]

i'll talk more shit tomorrow i reckon

[arctic talon]

could have had this shit lol

[opaque coyote]

Also interesting idea

[arctic talon]

But they didn't do it

[opaque coyote]

But wasted

[arctic talon]

Infinite literally had

accurated to banished brutes

and then we got fucking great value covenant

[opaque coyote]

Yeah Halo Wars 2 had the Banished Aesthetic look great

[arctic talon]

This shit cooks lol

[urban spire]

motherfucker my dataplan just ran out

[opaque coyote]

Even had their own red scrap metal scarabs also

It looked sick

[arctic talon]

I also love how all the banished gauntlets are a fucking grenade

in Halo wars

[opaque coyote]

Hold on

[arctic talon]

I know

about the banished scarab

[arctic talon]

it drips molten metal

from the giant "eye" lol

[opaque coyote]

Covenant one for reference

[arctic talon]

Halo Infinite deciding to make the banished look like the covenant was a horrible decision

[opaque coyote]

In general my favorite parts about the Banished is that you could feel the Brute influence.

Everything is spikey, slapdash, and aggressive looking

[arctic talon]

They at least act and talk like them

[arctic talon]

yeah even the elites slap spikes on lol

[opaque coyote]

It's why I loved weapons like the Spiker and the Ravager

Because it felt truly like Banished weaponry

You shoot a fucking spike that explodes

You blast aggressive red plasma like a Ork with a shoota

[opaque coyote]

I hope if the Banished return

Somehow

It will be looking like their Halo Wars 2 counterparts

Just say the ones on the Halo Ring were running out of budget

Being stranded basically

[arctic talon]

lol

[opaque coyote]

Also I liked Jul M'dama's covenant

[arctic talon]

bruh this was concept art for Banished elites for infinite

I'm actually going to fucking kill someone lol

[opaque coyote]

Cause Spartan Ops painted them as posers which I actually liked

[arctic talon]

(in minecraft)

[opaque coyote]

Like they're basically the equivalent of Isis

Remnants of a government that did exist

They're scattered terrorists

And Jul M'dama is a dreamer

Always looking for some new forerunner super weapon that would bring the glory back

Despite that being impossible