40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

its just parastical programs

[arctic talon]

Its just a fucking algorithim

lol

[storm jungle]

the Imperium's view on AI is very much inherently backward and stupid

[jade holly]

AI we have is just complex programming and logic chains

[storm jungle]

the Votann have AI companions and theres nothing wrong with them + they're prob one of the best societies in 40k lol

[midnight dragon]

Imagine ruining my joke my trying to take it seriously

[storm jungle]

❤️

[arctic talon]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GxdjtDdWIAA19YB.gif

[jade holly]

I want an Iron Kahl mini so badly

[arctic talon]

do it yourself

its an easy headswap

[midnight dragon]

My joke was that the imperium is anti ai like how artist are

[arctic talon]

lol

[jade holly]

I’m not skilled enough

[storm jungle]

okay but like again its not really the same thing

[jade holly]

I wanna be

[arctic talon]

Brother just tear the head off

[storm jungle]

they fear actual progress and machines that think for themselves lol

[jade holly]

But that would hurt it

[mossy peak]

leon again

[rose thorn]

Is Leon mentally ill?

I’ve only played RE6

[mossy peak]

idk i think so i haven’t played the games

[midnight dragon]

side eye

[rose thorn]

NAGITO WINS AGAIN

[storm jungle]

Votann use AI and theres nothing wrong with them, sorry buddy

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-nagito-danganronpa-nagito-meme-nagito-absolute-cinema-gif-11127176268625072943

[storm jungle]

artificial intelligence is cool

[young pecan]

I saw a clip from the new game where Leon has an entire minute to react to a woman about to get chainsaw'd in half and does nothing just to aura farm

[storm jungle]

tbh

lore accurate

[rose thorn]

When we get an ai who can like black butler then we know it’s sentient

[jade holly]

Behavioral Reinforcing AI my beloved, making enemy bots get smarter as I fight them

Improved Pathfinding AI

Simulation assisting AI

[young pecan]

I mentally recoiled having to remember Black Butler's existence

[arctic talon]

that stuff isn't AI yet

[midnight dragon]

[arctic talon]

its just algorithm stuff labled as AI

none of the AI rn is intelligent

lol

[jade holly]

I am aware

[arctic talon]

there's no intelligence going on

[storm jungle]

idgaf if you are bored

Ironkin are based

[rose thorn]

Jump scare

[jade holly]

I took a class on AI in college

Yes those exist now

[storm jungle]

also for you btw

[jade holly]

Waiting for an Ironkin unit in Tacticus

[mossy peak]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DV_W7JMgVvN/?igsh=Y3NkeG5reXM5OGRq is this actually how big horus was

[storm jungle]

reminder to everyone that super-earth uses AI art

[rose thorn]

I don’t understand technology so I’m gonna keep making references to Stuff that hasn’t been relevant in like 10 years

[rose thorn]

She is chud bait

No offense to her

[young pecan]

I took one look and thought the same thing

[midnight dragon]

[young pecan]

I have about 10% doubt that maybe she's not doing it on purpose

[rose thorn]

HER MODEL ISNT EVEN TI SCALE

[arctic talon]

her stuff is oversized

[jade holly]

She also does cosplays tmk

[arctic talon]

unless its horus ascended

in which that case

yeah

thats right for Horus ascended

[jade holly]

I think it is

[arctic talon]

her stuff is def oversized for normal Horus/Marines tho

unless she's like

really short

but she doesn't look that short

[midnight dragon]

Wait art is converted to data doesn't imply that it's computer generated

[rose thorn]

Chuds clap their hands like seals when they see big things with a space marine on it

[young pecan]

I keep forgetting to properly watch the Sopranos

[jade holly]

Yeah it’s Horus ascended there’s the eyes on the armor

[arctic talon]

That doesn't mean its Horus ascended

as in Horus when he ascended

[jade holly]

Yeah was just about to ask that

[arctic talon]

into becoming a meat suit

[young pecan]

I had a friend who would stream it while I played games and I half paid attention through the first like season or so

[arctic talon]

Horus Ascended the mini is just late heresy Horus

not actually Horus Ascended

which is ???????

but whatver

[storm jungle]

....yes?

[mossy peak]

it does, they take all the art and feed it into the algorithms and it spits out art

[storm jungle]

thats the joke

super-earth uses AI art

lmao

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[jade holly]

So this isn’t Ascended Horus?

[storm jungle]

thats normal Horus

[mossy peak]

it’s the same heavy handed satire as everything else they do

[storm jungle]

"heavy handed"

have you looked at real life

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/danganronpa-nagito-komaeda-nagito-komaeda-no-thats-wrooooooong-gif-14969846967228442062

[arctic talon]

thats just mid to late heresy horus

[jade holly]

I have never seen ascended Horus then

[storm jungle]

i mean

threes nothing to see

[mossy peak]

ok fairs

[storm jungle]

hes just horus but has more VFX

[midnight dragon]

Ohh

[jade holly]

Unusual Horus

[rose thorn]

It isn’t he is just chaos roleplaying

[young pecan]

Horus SSR

[rose thorn]

You can tell because his face isn’t completely red yet

[tepid glacier]

it's that horus claw that powerful?

[rose thorn]

It’s only half way

[jade holly]

Also wow I am so late to realizing Horus is very wolf themed

[mossy peak]

prestige horus

[storm jungle]

his founding legion is literally Luna Wolves

[rose thorn]

No way….

[jade holly]

His last name is even Lupercal

[rose thorn]

Lmao dilara beat me to it

[jade holly]

Lupus is Latin for wolf

[arctic talon]

Horus’s lighting claws are just really nice lighting claws

[jade holly]

I am so fucking dense

[arctic talon]

Aside from that they’re normal

[mossy peak]

where did he find such a ridiculously large suit anyways

[arctic talon]

They made it for him

[jade holly]

Built by the Dark Mechanicus probably

[arctic talon]

Nah

Horus’s armor was from the imperial household

Like all the primarch armor but Vulkan and Peter

[jade holly]

“Hey bro you think this armor we’re making is kinda chaos looking”

“…. Nah”

[young pecan]

What if the reason Horus became evil was because they gave him such an evil looking suit

I think I'm onto something

[tepid glacier]

so it's not that special?¿ i thoug maybe Abadon take it because it was somekind insuffled by chaos powers

[mossy peak]

half the legions had evil ass themes before the heresy anyways

[jade holly]

They say the suit makes the man

[arctic talon]

It’s special due to how high quality it is and what it represents

[mossy peak]

he became evil because his name is horus heresy

[jade holly]

It’s me John Horus Heresy

[young pecan]

How did they not see that coming

[tepid glacier]

i see

[languid meadow]

watching sheogorath, dagoth ur, hircine, and rei all play feel good inc

[midnight dragon]

[storm jungle]

?

[mossy peak]

they had the tech? i thought it was some daot relic

[jade holly]

I have this old image

[mossy peak]

sinners and factorio

[midnight dragon]

Bolter and hammer with rogue trader

[storm jungle]

its a fucking claw with guns on it

[tepid glacier]

last game played:Darktide last tv show:Knight of the seven kingdom, i genuinely think this could be an awesome thing

[jade holly]

For me it’s One Piece live action and Borderlands 4

[mossy peak]

no i mean the giant ass suit of armor

[tepid glacier]

an awesome combination too

[jade holly]

The Logos is modern tech tmk

Isn’t the Logos the most advanced armor of any Primarch?

[young pecan]

Mewgenics and New Girl

How does that even translate

[tepid glacier]

Is the Horus clon erradicated completely?

[rancid cove]

im pretty sure Horus's armor was hand-crafted by big e
i also could be very wrong

[storm jungle]

ITS JUST A BIG SUIT OF ARMOR

[midnight dragon]

I thought you said Lego for a minute then imagined Lego Warhammer 40k advertisement

[rancid cove]

yes

i think Bile or Cawl killed it

can't remember which one

did it

[jade holly]

LET’S GOOO

MEMNYR STRATEGIST IN TACTICUS

[midnight dragon]

Lego Warhammer 40k, id love to see that

[rancid cove]

it was neither

[storm jungle]

yes

[rancid cove]

im fucking stupid

[storm jungle]

yes

[rancid cove]

Not entirely sure but this could be maybe the start for Abaddon's bitter hatred towards Horus

[rancid cove]

or was it right after he failed to kill emps?

[tepid glacier]

dam, that horus being created by bile could maybe be like some kind of future card for gw? or not sense at all?

[tepid glacier]

cause if he can create a clone....

[rancid cove]

It was purely Fabius making experiments

[tepid glacier]

probably could create more

[storm jungle]

Bile doesnt care

hes in it for the love of the game

not primarch slop

[rancid cove]

if anything Bile sees it below himself to even care about that

[storm jungle]

^

he outright even says this

[tepid glacier]

Btw speaking about Bile, did he create something with Alpha primus adn?

[storm jungle]

Not yet

[rancid cove]

no

[storm jungle]

he just took his gene-coom and left

[rancid cove]

Fabius-made Chaos Primaris at least by the end of this year Im calling it

[mossy peak]

OH OK

[storm jungle]

YES

[storm jungle]

Hes already made em

hes in it for the love of gene-gooning

[rancid cove]

i mean the minis

[mossy peak]

are they actually primaris or just some chaos equivalent to keep things even

[rancid cove]

btw the primarch clones were just Fabius making it for shits and giggles because he can

[young pecan]

The fact that they just can't land a headshot in all of those shots is frying me
because people can actually tank that many torso shots before croaking

[rancid cove]

theres no plotline to it

itwas just Bile being a goofer

[arctic talon]

Bile hates marines

Well

He doesn’t hate marines

[storm jungle]

they are untrained mafiosos

[arctic talon]

But he sees them as a flawed product

lol

[tepid glacier]

yeah that sounds like a tipical bile behaviour

[storm jungle]

do you see how Chris is shooting

just thrusting the gun forward

LMAO

[young pecan]

Oh I'm not arguing that

Just the poor bastard realistically is still alive taking all those shots

[rancid cove]

i mean you'd figure at least ONE shot would ending up landing on the guy

[tepid glacier]

don't he has some kind of daugther?

[rancid cove]

whomst

Bile?

[tepid glacier]

yep

[rancid cove]

does he?

[rancid cove]

i never read his story entirely

[tepid glacier]

like some kind of assasin or something like that?

i'm not completely sure

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fabius_Bile

Lexi.
Lexi.
Lexi.
Lexi.
Lexi.

[young pecan]

How many Sopranos clips do you have saved in your folder

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326747259395768456/1383051320155574402/catScared-2x.gif

[storm jungle]

30+ and growing

[young pecan]

Because I KNOW there is a folder

Yep

[tepid glacier]

Melusine!

[arctic talon]

No, unless you count his new men as his children

[storm jungle]

Elite

i literally listed it above

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

Explode.

[arctic talon]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GxdjtDdWIAA19YB.gif

[jade holly]

This is some prime Gabagool

[tepid glacier]

i though that Melusine could be for Bile what Alpha primus for Cawl

[rancid cove]

I wish in the new Yarrick cinematic reveal he killed the guy like this

would've been so fuckin cool

[rose thorn]

Dilaria vs Mag refrencing stuff that was popular 10+ years ago competition

[mossy peak]

more like 20

[daring creek]

Ancient relic vs fossil

[languid meadow]

holy shit

[storm jungle]

meanwhile Missus vs Noodle

Spermcell vs Coomstain

[languid meadow]

elf v dwarf in real life

[daring creek]

lmfao

[daring creek]

whos the knight

[storm jungle]

Gets executed by ayleid knights

kind of a shit knight

[storm jungle]

Elder scrolls character who went around killing eldritch evil elves and also furries I MEAN khajit

killed tons and tons of them before he got torn apart and killed

[daring creek]

I wonder what the Jotaro vs Luffy discussion is like

[mossy peak]

who’s that one ridiculously powerscaled ultramarine

[languid meadow]

uhhh

from boltgun?

I assume

[mossy peak]

magnus carlsen or someytbing

yea from boltgun

[languid meadow]

Malum caedo

or something

[storm jungle]

Magnus Carlsen - Malum Caedo

😭

[winter pine]

Big support to the Boltgun devs for naming him I kill evil / I slaughter evil in Latin

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/Amanseeks/status/2034427173272977872?s=20

the (@Amanseeks)

Quoting local lich lord, alachaclha (@lichofmt_heljen)
︀
RECENT MAJOR ORDER REMINDS ME OF THIS THAT I DREW SOME WEEKS AGO

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FxTwitter · Mar 19, 2026, 12:30 AM

[daring creek]

I need a tv remote that makes ppl stfu

[arctic talon]

Genesplice pod. Now

[storm jungle]

I gotta give em credit this really captures the Illuminate well lol

they are creepy as shit

[languid meadow]

after the cyborgs returned they're the only interesting thing atm

bugs are just

bugs

we got hivelords finally

[storm jungle]

Terminids can only basically do Tyranid shit we've seen a thousand times

they are neat but the yare just space bugs that exist in every sci-fi setting ye

Autos/Illuminate are legit cool as shit

[rancid cove]

Illuminate gives off "unescappable doom" vibes
no matter what the outcome of the players attempts to kill them, they aren't losing the war at all
very cool

[arctic talon]

Don’t worry nothing wrong is happening.

The illuminate want to become friends, and once we’re all friends we will ascend

[storm jungle]

I think the most hilarious part is the largest part of their army is brainwashed super-earth citizens

so like most of their losses are literally meaningless

[rancid cove]

ohhhh

[storm jungle]

Voteless Moment

[arctic talon]

My theory on overseers being grown up voteless is wrong it would seem

[storm jungle]

Yeah because they go into the Illuminate faction tag iirc

the "they are here in person" modifier

[arctic talon]

Because they’re counted as full illuminate in the new enemy type thing

Yeah

[storm jungle]

yeah lmao

[arctic talon]

No cultists yet though

💀

[storm jungle]

its weird because like

the cultists look WAY more pristine while the Overseers kinda have that dirty wraithbone aesthetic

[arctic talon]

They don’t fit the body shape

I wonder if it’s a class thing

The overseers are the underclass of illuminate

[storm jungle]

Likely.

[arctic talon]

The cultists are the upper class

Bcs the low ranked illuminate in HD1 didn’t have 4 arms

[storm jungle]

thats another thing i dont really get

they look super radically different from HD1

[languid meadow]

It's funny how juiced they are now

[arctic talon]

Their blood is also a diffrent color

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah

[arctic talon]

I’m convinced there’s something weird with overseers still

[languid meadow]

Warrior caste clones?

[arctic talon]

Too much stuff doesn’t line up

[storm jungle]

ı was gonna say

[arctic talon]

That wouldn’t cause their blood to literally be purple

[languid meadow]

why is that I so small

[storm jungle]

they almost feel like charred up corpses put into wraithbone suits or something

i cant quite explain it

[languid meadow]

RE BOWs

[arctic talon]

Also the enemies in 1 aren’t as to scale

[arctic talon]

Their flesh looks dessicated

Wait

What if they’re necromancied illuminate

[languid meadow]

they're literally just engineered soldiers imo

[storm jungle]

I WAS gonna say lol

[languid meadow]

instead of real squids

[storm jungle]

^ this or its necromancty

[arctic talon]

They got literal Necromancers now

Yeah clones or necromancy

I’m all in

[storm jungle]

the HD2 Illuminate got like a huge thing on using fodder dead shit against super-earth

[languid meadow]

also like

[arctic talon]

The illuminate do practice cannibalism tbf

[storm jungle]

it makes thematic sense considering they were sent out to die outside the galaxy

[languid meadow]

they have these weird small arms?

[arctic talon]

As a natural tradition

Necromancy is like kind of odd

[languid meadow]

and their heads are different

[arctic talon]

Considering they eat the brains of the dead

[storm jungle]

Yeah this is what i dont get

and we DO know it sintentional

[arctic talon]

They got armor

The overseers are def meant to be weird

[storm jungle]

because the HD2 terminids going back to their HD1 forms is a visual cue

[arctic talon]

Imo

[storm jungle]

so its not like "its just game aesthetics"

[arctic talon]

Oh you know what

I just realized

All the cultists can use magic

They all got the flash step shit or shoot magic stuff

Overseers are def some sort of underclass clone or necromancy thing

Or some other weird shit

[languid meadow]

I mean it makes sense right?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[languid meadow]

I forgot if they gave official numbers

[storm jungle]

They havent no

[arctic talon]

We don’t know the illuminate population

[storm jungle]

only that the yare "few in number" but like lol

[arctic talon]

Beyond they got fucked up sfter HD1

[arctic talon]

Few in number (billions)

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Jokes aside the population of Super Earth is prolly in the low trillions

[storm jungle]

"low"

💀

didnt they throw 200 Million divers to cyberstan

lmao

[arctic talon]

200 million isn't that much in terms of trillions

its a rounding error

[storm jungle]

speaking of

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1rx7ynw/2_useful_shoveltips/

what the fuck even is the point of this video

what a useless item lol

[arctic talon]

shovel is useless lol

[storm jungle]

yeah like

i was trying to watch and understand what this guy is even saying

"profit"

what profit 💀

[languid meadow]

idk

but it's cool they buffed all versions of the shovel at least

they dig way better

[storm jungle]

thats what im saying

what is the point of digging

[arctic talon]

cover

(so you can die to grenades)

[storm jungle]

so

just like IRL trench warfare

neat

[arctic talon]

useless against bugs

almost useless against squidws

useful against bots(vaguely)

do not do it against incineration corp

[storm jungle]

[sacred ginkgo]

Until one of their 4 anti turtling units pulls up in a squad of 7 and tells you to shove the shovel up your ass or die

[arctic talon]

thats why I said vaguely

[crystal forum]

i'm glad they made armor passives interesting this time around

all the armors in the pack have different bonuses

even the super credit store one is pretty based

[plush mason]

nah do use it against them, free charnel pit

[crystal forum]

explosions resistance and extra padding on heavy armor is based as hell

[rancid cove]

Oh my god HE WONT LET IT GOOOOOO

[languid meadow]

ciri...

[midnight dragon]

Make an ugly woman, both radfems and anti wokes get mad

[outer wave]

Idk man, I dont like the star wars sequels much at all, but the main girl is pretty good looking

[crystal forum]

notice the amount of non white characters

[outer wave]

Also I dont get its caption "You can't have anything."

Like bro, just make something with attractive women yourself or idk look around?

[crystal forum]

watch porn

[outer wave]

Porn, alot of anime games

Some other movies that have the usual "traditionally" attractive characters because those are still out there

[rose thorn]

ugly women fatigue??? mf are ANY of htese women ugly

[outer wave]

Id say the one on the left, but thats edited

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/nagito-komaeda-danganronpa-goodbye-despair-gif-4334556751919184155

[crystal forum]

im pretty sure the fat one on the left isn't even the actual character

[rose thorn]

yee lmao

[outer wave]

I dont personally find Abbey from TLoU2 that attractive, but hey, Im sure she hits a few things for some others

[rancid cove]

make woman that looks like woman and not pornified character and they lose it

[rose thorn]

If sexy videogame women were real they wouldn’t want chud tubers they would want nagito….

[rancid cove]

No

Its not even "ugly women fatigue", its just "women fatigue"
These guys just don't like women

[outer wave]

Until they actually talked to Komaeda, then realized he's Komaeda for a reason

[rose thorn]

He was voted as the number 1 danganropa character by women so

[crystal forum]

most of these characters are just there because it's considered a woke IP

[rose thorn]

I think otherwise

[outer wave]

Damn I can't argue with that

[rose thorn]

If it’s not hum

It’s

[outer wave]

Is Ghosts of Tsushima considered woke?

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/danganronpa-gundham-tanaka-gif-18987552

[outer wave]

True!

[crystal forum]

like you cant tell me the actor who played she-hulk isnt good looking

[outer wave]

The she-hulk actress looks sexy in a suit so I mean

Yeah she's good looking!

[rose thorn]

I’m a pansexual I don’t know

[outer wave]

Im starting to believe that most people dove into these spaces because they saw that something was cringe and/or had cringe writing and now can't discern if something is bad because women dont look like super models or some shit

[plush mason]

r/incel is a thing sadly so its not just that

the anti woke mob is a mix of people ranging from hype train chancers with no real investment in anything to literal women haters with possible rap sheets

Klan members are also in it

its just not a good crowd at all

[low gazelle]

YARRICK LIVES

I didnt know where else to show my excitement

Ghazkull will be pleased

[rancid cove]

And still fighting in Armageddon

[low gazelle]

YES YES YES YES

[rancid cove]

Armageddon is such a fucking funny planet

It's like a Hideo Kojima plot

[low gazelle]

4th time btw

[rancid cove]

name planet Armageddon
Armageddon happens on it

[rancid cove]

It's still the 3rd war

[low gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

Guardsman highcom probably

[rancid cove]

Its literally the planet named Murder on Horus Rising

planet called Murder
everyone sent there fucking dies

[low gazelle]

🤣

There seems to be a theme

[rancid cove]

Literally Hideo Kojima type plot

man made out of mud
is called Mud-Man

guy is a toy
name is Toy-Man

[low gazelle]

LMfao

I never saw the metal gear saga films

[rancid cove]

This is from Death Stranding not Metal Gear but hilarious all the same

[low gazelle]

Yeah more of a side note

[low gazelle]

I love this panel

So fuckin much

[rancid cove]

I have one of them kissing lmao

But its on my computer

[low gazelle]

I just saw ur banner

Oh wait nvm discords acting up

I thought the panel was ur banner

Or i might be to sleep deprived

[rancid cove]

[rancid cove]

Based innit? Made it myself like 1 hour ago

[low gazelle]

its sick

what program u use to make it

[rancid cove]

Pixlr

I edit everything there

Even my space marine 2 fashion images

found it

[low gazelle]

oh u found it

[rancid cove]

idk why it reversed the order of the images

but oh well

[low gazelle]

I love my

Guardsman army

[rancid cove]

My most recent space chuds

[dapper gyro]

That mk8 style collar block like 50% of the dude vision.

[rancid cove]

nuh uh

[sour hornet]

Make a character normal and she's ugly, make a character attractive or cuddly and suddenly, you're pandering to gooners.

smh we gotta start ripping people's eyes out man, they cannot handle the gift of sight

[opaque coyote]

then they'll start gooning to the voice

asmr moment

[mossy peak]

is yarrick a perpetual

[daring creek]

yea

[arctic talon]

No

[jade holly]

Then we all gotta go deaf smh

[dapper gyro]

I can help you to find out if you are a perpetual.

[vagrant fox]

I didn't know I needed the soy automaton supporter vs the chad illuminate supporter until now

[crystal forum]

as if we couldn't predict the purple black hole was going to be some illuminate plan

illuminate are goofy as shit

anyways the faction would literally only be improved by having fleshmobs completely removed from the game

nobody would complain

[vagrant fox]

Played a game yesterday where I saw like just a handful and just endless swarms of voteless and it was fairly pleasant

[daring creek]

https://youtu.be/D1d-Geau1v4

I need to finish dow1

pretty sure I got 1 or two more missions

[vagrant fox]

Go on then

[daring creek]

what the fuck

nonono

no.

[shadow plover]

[daring creek]

it cant be

real

no

[shadow plover]

amazing

Steel Legion is kill

[daring creek]

no it definitely isnt

it cant be

[shadow plover]

it's a joke

[vagrant fox]

This is pretty funny, mild +1

[urban spire]

do kin use bolters primarily?

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hearthkyn_Warrior

They are armed with a variety of weapons, such as Bolt Revolvers, Etacarn Plasma Pistols, Ion Blasters, Etacarn Plasma Guns, Autarch-pattern Bolters, HYLas Auto-Rifles, Concussion Grenades, and Plasma Axes.[1] Those warriors that show sufficient apitude are given additional training to wield specialist weapons, such as L7 Missile Launchers, EtaCarn Plasma Beamers, and Magna-Rail Rifles.[2b]

[urban spire]

ok so bolters are more of a side arm

[storm jungle]

Yeah they dont wield 1 single standard issue weapon. Every Kyn is more or less his or her own person so they just pick what they wnat that standard troops got access to

they are mercenary prospectors not uptight military dudes

[urban spire]

how does that work for the tabletop

[storm jungle]

I dunno

im just a lore creature

[urban spire]

it's REALLY inefficient for a military force

although cool in a sort of einherjar sense

[storm jungle]

realism = / = 40k

[urban spire]

i think there's a lot of appeal to the way 40k often apes realistic stuff without understanding it

[storm jungle]

Kinda, but not a lot of people are really looking for that stuff

[urban spire]

of course

the main target demo is after all 12 year old boys

[storm jungle]

and adults who have the mental capacity of 12 year olds

[urban spire]

still i hope that gets revised at some point

[storm jungle]

It makes sales so definitely not

[urban spire]

oh i mean the logistics thing

[storm jungle]

Highly suggest you read Imperial Armor

(Tauros Campaign especially)

logistics DEFINES that entire war

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Taros_Campaign

prob the only 40k story ive seen that acknowledges armies need supplies lol

[urban spire]

it's kinda implicit in lasguns!

part of the appeal to me

the IG favours it because it's very easy to supply

[storm jungle]

Yeah but thats not even really acknowledged that much

Read it.

[urban spire]

i can't believe you'd ask me to do something more complicated than browse social media and cry

you monster

[storm jungle]

"social media"

ITS A WIKI PAGE

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HDZEF4XXEAIzu8C.gif

[urban spire]

THIS is the social media dilara

[storm jungle]

nothing about a wikipedia is social

[urban spire]

antisocial media if anything, i've seen some talk pages let me tell you

no but i meant discord

what is a campaign book

[storm jungle]

its a book with a campaign in it

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Category:Campaign_Books

basically a pre-set story where you can re-enact it with your army if it fits in or whatever

[urban spire]

that makes sense

anyway i asked about the kin and bolters because bolters are the weapons space marines fell back on when they lost the knowing of how to make volkite shit, right?

[storm jungle]

Yeah.

[urban spire]

so it'd be weird for the explicitly stated technologically superior guys to be using the fallback of the shitass guys

[storm jungle]

I mean bolters have been around since DAOT, they arent really shitty weapons in any measure.

if it does the job it doesnt matter, and Kin use a varied arsenal as is

[urban spire]

yeah they're just a little unimpressive

[storm jungle]

It mauls most things to death with explosions so idk about that one

[urban spire]

i mean in the way that they're barely any different from modern AGLs

[storm jungle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ahem-shit-1

I guess bro

[urban spire]

come onnnn

i LIKE AGLs i just want to see other things

especially in 40k

[ornate estuary]

Calling a bolter an agl is like comparing a fork to a light saber.

[urban spire]

i'm just saying the kind of advancement we see in bolters compared to modern agls is something you'd expect to happen like a century or so from now, not however many thousands of years

[vagrant fox]

more autocannons for warhammer

the single coolest weapons system

[urban spire]

thats true though

[vagrant fox]

That's why I said it

I speak only truth

[urban spire]

that's why i agreed

[vagrant fox]

🤝

[urban spire]

autocannons in 40k are really funny they have not advanced one bit

regressed if anything

[vagrant fox]

Anything more advanced than bofors 40 mm L/60 is unnecessary

[urban spire]

ogryn deserves an autocannon

also they should let them put heat shells in the hand mortar

[vagrant fox]

HEAT is a commie-swiss devil invention and should be deleted from the technological record

[urban spire]

no heat is so cool

also like an 80-90mm recoilless rifle, something like that

i'm not asking for much

[vagrant fox]

commie swiss-devil 🫵

[urban spire]

how dare you

[celest dome]

Imo, Autocannon wouldn't really bring anything

[urban spire]

you're wrong

there would be an autocannon, which would be cool

[celest dome]

There would be a couple of more interesting ranged they could do

[vagrant fox]

The French had it right by just sticking a huge 120mm cannon with an autoloader on a chassis and using nothing but divinely ordained and blessed APBC shells

[celest dome]

Lascannon
Multilaser
Lascutter
Heavy Bolter
...

[urban spire]

it's not like the bolt pistol needed to exist it's basically just a slight variation on the revolver

it's there because it's sick

[heady rivet]

Seeing someone type something so insanely out of touch with reality is almost fascinating. Its probably what its like to interact with me when I am allegedly abusing controlled substances. Mythical...

[celest dome]

Hence Heavy Bolter but not Autocannon

[heady rivet]

Heavy Bolter on Ogryn, man-sized stub gun for Arbites, Nade Launcher for Vet. Sword and Board for Zealot. Thats my weapon wishlist atm

[vagrant fox]

more weapons all kinds I don't give a damn if it's similar to another

[urban spire]

fatshark is painfully slow with some of these things

[heady rivet]

I disagree because if they make me level a Power Cutlass type weapon again I'm becoming a terrorist

[urban spire]

and i know it's because of GW oversight or whatever

[vagrant fox]

I liked power cutlass get owned necromunlet

[celest dome]

It's also that animations take a lot of time

[heady rivet]

It just feels redundant tbh

And kinda meh

[vagrant fox]

thogg don't care

thogg wants more

[urban spire]

you don't have to level weapons you don't want to use

[heady rivet]

thogg is getting a bee hive thrown in his cave tonight

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-american-psycho-i-want-to-fit-in-fit-in-fitting-in-gif-25494257

[urban spire]

it's not warframe

[vagrant fox]

give me a power spear even if it's similar to any other power weapon

[urban spire]

fit in these nuts

[heady rivet]

Oh Spear would be fun but I want it on Scum

[vagrant fox]

Scum will do

[heady rivet]

Chasing the high of Kerillian spear

[heady rivet]

Rannick realizing he aint getting any more support

[vagrant fox]

Give me a frickin uhh, power knife even if it's just a smaller power sword

there

[urban spire]

scum weapons have so much potential

[midnight dragon]

You are hundreds of times more statistically likely to see a sister of battle in your warzone then you are to even be on the same planet as a space marine

[heady rivet]

Give me the flintlock pistol from Dark Heresy

[urban spire]

halberd with a shaped charge instead of an axe head

[vagrant fox]

Give ogryn a scatter cannon why not

[heady rivet]

Cawdor

[vagrant fox]

yes

[urban spire]

nah SoBs are super rare too

[vagrant fox]

More of them around so it's more likely

[vagrant fox]

still not a huge chance necessarily

Give Ogryn the got dam House Orlock harpoon launcher

[heady rivet]

Its kinda crazy that Sisters numbers are either "There's a few thousand" to "Millions"

[urban spire]

also there's a million chapters of space marines kicking around these of days

[heady rivet]

You're gonna slurp that Necromunda sump up and you're gonna like it

[vagrant fox]

I have a gluttonous appetite that will never be satisfied until every little niche weapon is in Darktide

[urban spire]

hell just give ogryn a fist weapon, it'd be sick

[heady rivet]

~2k or something give or take

[urban spire]

big shock knuckles or something? hell yeah

[heady rivet]

Lance Battery 🗣️

[vagrant fox]

why not

[urban spire]

give scum the same knuckles but the model is scaled down

[heady rivet]

Exterminatus button weapon and if one (1) player presses it the entire servers shut down and the suppirt for the game ends

[urban spire]

give zealot the same knuckles but the model ISN'T scaled down

[midnight dragon]

Why is there only millions? They are just normal ass humans, how many scions are there in comparison

[heady rivet]

And it doxes them to everyone also

[vagrant fox]

variable amount x of scions

unknown

[midnight dragon]

Like, this is a galaxy with the population in the trillions

[urban spire]

there's lots of chapters of sororitas but they aren't all dedicated to war

[midnight dragon]

There's only millions of sisters?

[heady rivet]

Because the writers cant agree how big the Orders really are so the numbers vary a ton

[urban spire]

like there are presumably billions of sisters, most of which even fight competently, but most of those don't have bolters and power armour

[vagrant fox]

It's hard to say, some orders we know nothing about there is just a lot of humans

[storm jungle]

This is the correct answer yeah

[heady rivet]

Also the writers love to say "Billions" for any number between 1 Billion and 10 Quintillion

[storm jungle]

theres tons of Sister Orders

idk where the thousand shit is coming from

thats only for Marine Chapters

[heady rivet]

My favorite is the Stained Glass maintainers

[vagrant fox]

Would genuinely kill for a chain flail on the zealot

I will sacrifice my firstborn

[urban spire]

i started hearing it when matt ward wrote his grey knights thing that everyone hated

[heady rivet]

I think I mistyped. The size of an individual order ranges from thousands to millions, not the total number

[storm jungle]

Thats literally an ancient ass codex

[storm jungle]

Your sentence is death.

[urban spire]

i'm just saying when i started hearing it

[midnight dragon]

What is the equivalent of a ak47 in this verse

[storm jungle]

Lasguns

[heady rivet]

Harsh but fair

[vagrant fox]

lasgun

[heady rivet]

Autogun

I mean its literally an autogun by definition

[vagrant fox]

Depends on what's meant by equivalent

[storm jungle]

some kind of... automatic gun

[heady rivet]

Autogun is any ballistic rifle-configuration weapon

Essentially

[urban spire]

equivalent meaning a legendary cheap piece of shit that somehow never breaks, i'm assuming

that would be the lasgun

[heady rivet]

Unless its not

[vagrant fox]

In sofar as Kalashnikov made the AK for dumb idiot soldiers to be used easily and to be spammed out lasgun is an equivalent

[heady rivet]

I think it depends on what he means by equivalent

[midnight dragon]

Say that again...

[vagrant fox]

yes

[storm jungle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/say-that-again-1

[urban spire]

the real question is: what's the 40k FN FAL?

[storm jungle]

autoguns

[heady rivet]

Also an autogun

[vagrant fox]

lasgun

[storm jungle]

theres no specific Mark that matches as theres gazillions of weapon marks, we can only go by type lol

[heady rivet]

If we're keeping score, the Imperium autoguns are already like, huge rounds because GW dont know guns. Some poor PDF trooper is full-autoing that shit at protestors and getting his shoulder blown out

[midnight dragon]

[storm jungle]

what

[urban spire]

what

oh

the pfp

[heady rivet]

Round 1: Toddler skull
Round 2: Adult Stomach
Round 3: Adult Head
Round 4 onward: Sky

[urban spire]

i thought bronies were extinct, they either turned into maga chuds or transitioned

[heady rivet]

Turned?

[midnight dragon]

We went woke

[heady rivet]

They were dropkicking little girls already

[midnight dragon]

After 2017

[heady rivet]

Me when I lie

[midnight dragon]

Im not

Most of the right wing part of the fandom died

Well at least the ones that mattered

And thats for the better mind you

[raven stone]

Anyways.

If we are talking Autoguns.

Somewhere in 40k, a specific pattern of Autogun would remotely resemble an AK47 or FN FAL.

[urban spire]

yeah i'm never gonna crack down on bronies in a blanket sort of fashion just because it was an important foundation for a lot of trans people finding a community that didn't reflexively hate femininity

[raven stone]

But GW has not done any lore work on that

[raven stone]

So it is up to you to imagine the pattern name

[midnight dragon]

[heady rivet]

Belgium pattern

[raven stone]

Though that being said, Kalashnikov Pattern Autogun does have a nice ring to it

[vagrant fox]

Don't ask what the guardsmen of Belgae did on the T'au planet of K'ongoe

[heady rivet]

Stoner pattern also goes hard for a Hive Ganger

[raven stone]

"KALASHNIKOV PATTERN AUTOGUNS! FOR EVERYONE!"
-GS cultist

[heady rivet]

When I read Genestealer Cultists I always give them a vaguely Eastern European accent just to the point its almost racist. But I save the truly racist caricature for the extra special ones

[vagrant fox]

Dang dog crushed my wholeass thumb and shit's hurting and hot to the touch

I'm basically dying

[heady rivet]

Well maybe dont put your thumb in the way of a dog

[storm jungle]

Based

Suffer

[vagrant fox]

I fight pitties for a living

[heady rivet]

Not very good at it, so it seems

[vagrant fox]

I don't deserve this I just don't think the Tyranids are particularly interesting that's my only crime

[storm jungle]

Even if it wasnt you deserve it imo

[vagrant fox]

-2 btw

[urban spire]

augh the fucking phone network is down in the whole valley and now i have to suffer through dogass internet

[raven stone]

I am also kind of sad no one recognised them C&C Generals memes any more...

[storm jungle]

I did

i just didnt know what to add

lmao

[vagrant fox]

It's pure enough on its own

[urban spire]

i'm getting the chatroom in fucking communication bursts

[vagrant fox]

norwegian internet smh

[urban spire]

yeah we don't have the luxury of living on another country's sloughed off topsoil

[raven stone]

Actually on that note

[vagrant fox]

lies btw

This thing could be a wackass GLA bomb truck

[urban spire]

you live on the parts of norway that were too weak to survive the glaciers

[raven stone]

FNFAL (the company's shorthand initial) might be misremembered in 40k

So it is entirely possible there is a Finfall Pattern Autgoun somewhere.

[urban spire]

which also happens to be most of the arable parts

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/jest-jester-court-jester-clown-fool-gif-2206768696017558523

Us rn

[vagrant fox]

I live here but I'm not from here don't do this to me

[urban spire]

lmao

[raven stone]

Yea, and GSC probably does that as well

[vagrant fox]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gachi-24

[rancid cove]

Is the Eye of Terra and the Cicatrix Maledictum the only "big" warp areas in realspace in 40k?

[vagrant fox]

killing you

[vagrant fox]

make fun of the faroe islands being a shithole and I won't even argue back

[raven stone]

Eye of Terror, Cicatrix Maledictum, Maelstrom

[vagrant fox]

It's a bit worse now

[raven stone]

The three lore prominent ones

[vagrant fox]

but yes

[rancid cove]

Og yeah forgot about the Maelstrom

[rancid cove]

Wym

[queen laurel]

elite ball knowledge my man

[vagrant fox]

Cicatric Maledictum made it worse didn't it, I feel like it opened up a bunch of new ones

[urban spire]

there's always been loads of warp storms, the eye of terror was just until recently the big one

[heady rivet]

So called Red Corsairs fan

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warp_Storm

[raven stone]

Well I mean, kinda sorta interchangeable since Cicatrix Maledictin references any areas created by it

[storm jungle]

these are the list of all the biggest ones

[heady rivet]

Bro

That link

[rancid cove]

I just learned about them recently

[storm jungle]

Shut the fuck up

lol

[rancid cove]

Thanks

[storm jungle]

🫡

[vagrant fox]

I think I'm also a fool the Somnium Stars have been around for a bit

[heady rivet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/349377872240181248/1100215280187216013/95FE4B0F-115C-4C7D-90BC-56647BDE73C2.gif

[urban spire]

the cicatrix maledictum literally divides the galaxy in half though, that thing is definitionally so big we can't comprehend it

[rancid cove]

Also

[vagrant fox]

I can comprehend everything

[raven stone]

OK dumbass lore question on my part.

If (say) I am a CSM warlord in the Eye of Terror, can I "use the Warp" to emerge from Maelstrom instead?

I would imagine not.

[heady rivet]

Speaking of lore in the lore chat, the new Veteran cosmetic item descriptions imply a lost Knightly house that suspiciously mustered in the deadlands thats weird aha

[urban spire]

comprehend your ass up on this 🖕

[vagrant fox]

dilara ass-focused statement

[rancid cove]

Did people in lore find a way to push around the cicatrix maledictum or is it completely impossible to go around/trough it?

[storm jungle]

WHAT

[heady rivet]

There's a thin little path

[vagrant fox]

There's a few passages through

[storm jungle]

the Nachmund Gauntlet

it has a giga-mega war around it rn

[rancid cove]

Oh

[storm jungle]

ye

[urban spire]

just fucking go through it pussy

[rancid cove]

Gonna check that out later sounds cool

[heady rivet]

The Veteran Penance gear added in this update. It mentions records of a Knightly House mustering ALL its forces in the Deadlands. The name is redacted and lost but all the stamps are valid, it says

[vagrant fox]

just uh, go over it or under it

4head

[heady rivet]

I still need to check the others

[rancid cove]

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nachmund_Gauntlet

[urban spire]

it's just a warp storm whats the worst that can happen

[storm jungle]

I ironically asked this once

[heady rivet]

So anyway this cult guy is 100% a Knight pilot

[urban spire]

people fly into those all the time

[storm jungle]

and people were SOOO annoyed

lmao

"erm you cant just do that"

YES YOU CAN

ITS FUCKING SPACE

ITS 3D

[urban spire]

i assume the thing is just wide enough that it takes for fucking ever

[heady rivet]

I still need to check the description for the other classes penance gear but thats kinda huge

[vagrant fox]

It's just an effect of 3D space being treated like an ocean you sail across by GW

[rancid cove]

Theoretically could chaos forces manage to go trough it? Since you know, chaos gods worshipping means maybe protection against it

[urban spire]

and probably the warp gets weird if you fly out of the galaxy

[storm jungle]

This is the likely answer yeah

[heady rivet]

Goes against the treaty every race ever signed not to do that because its unfair and hard to deal with during naval battles

[storm jungle]

No they'd get torn apart

worshipping chaos doesnt protect you against the Warp

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/under-new-management-more-like-under-new-management-megamind-megamind-meme-jokez-da-joke-gif-19867663

[vagrant fox]

There's also that uhh, Atilla gate or whatever it's called they found

[rancid cove]

[vagrant fox]

another passage

[urban spire]

chaos forces hang around warp storms a lot it's true, but it's not great for them. a lot of chaos space marines are like a couple hundred years old from their perspective, but they were alive to see the heresy

[storm jungle]

[vagrant fox]

Trying to leave the Eye of Terror when it wasn't goatseing the galaxy by any other means but the Cadian gate just ended poorly, the warp doesn't really take sides

[urban spire]

anyone can just simply push into any warp storm, that's not the issue, the issue is coming out the other side

[vagrant fox]

Steel Ball Run today lads

also

[storm jungle]

No one cares

Jojo trash

get out

[vagrant fox]

foot up your ass and such

[urban spire]

jojo is good, sorry dilara

[storm jungle]

sigsen ass-focused statement

[storm jungle]

overrated and mid

keep your homoerotic baki clone to yourselves

[vagrant fox]

Mildly amusing, delete urself

[storm jungle]

no

[queen laurel]

hey lads we're killing each other today or what

[rancid cove]

Really like how warp fucks up the time, kinda makes me think if there are any stories in how people managed to timetravel due to it

[vagrant fox]

I think I'm too tired, another week

[urban spire]

there's multiple ordos of the inquisition dedicated to prevent this from happening

one of which was wiped out

[solid horizon]

least obvious ragebait

lol

[rancid cove]

Damn

[solid horizon]

I never watched or read jojo but I appreciate the musical references

[storm jungle]

Nah im being legit. Also if its bait why are you taking it :9

[heady rivet]

I need to make a joke and dont play Zealot besides Fem Agi, which ones the drunkard again? Fanatic?

[storm jungle]

They arent wiped out

[solid horizon]

I take everything

[urban spire]

it was a minor ordo, they get wiped out from time to time

[storm jungle]

it only happened like twice

they are back again

[urban spire]

fucking time travel

[vagrant fox]

More scribefodder to the Ordo Chronos now

[storm jungle]

quick i gotta delete it

[rancid cove]

Downloaded

[vagrant fox]

I was reporting that unremove it

[solid horizon]

get your dispatchslop out of here

[storm jungle]

Dispatch is peak

[solid horizon]

yes ma'am

[solid horizon]

I will

[vagrant fox]

RS Wilt had a fun story though, gonna be another interesting read

[solid horizon]

me looking in a mirror

lookin good today

[urban spire]

dispatch, the game where you have to play a dude and can't date the giant demon lady? yeah idk i don't see the appeal

[storm jungle]

LMAO

only valid criticism ill accept

[heady rivet]

Spotted gray hairs while blow-drying its over for me

[storm jungle]

no blowing allowed in lorechat

[vagrant fox]

homosexual thing to notice

[solid horizon]

itsa game for ladiez

[urban spire]

trying to picture erotic blow-drying

[rancid cove]

I have so much grey hair and im only 20 its so over

[urban spire]

i'm coming up short i'm gonna be honest

[urban spire]

you get to be a silver fox, good for you

[vagrant fox]

Now that is interesting

I found this

There's a guy at my work who's in his early 40s and is entirely white haired it's wack

[solid horizon]

albinism

[vagrant fox]

no his hair just went white

[urban spire]

women on my mother's side of the family often get snowy white hair in their old age, fingers crossed i go that way

[heady rivet]

Thanks oomfie

[heady rivet]

Bro I am in my early 20s

This aint good

[vagrant fox]

lmbo

[urban spire]

it's fine it's normal

[vagrant fox]

this explains much

[urban spire]

it could be so much worse sibling

you could be straight up losing it

[vagrant fox]

You could go the way of my brother and lose your hair at 18

[urban spire]

a social worker i knew had literally all her hair fall out after her first pregnancy

[solid horizon]

skill issue tbh

[urban spire]

just gone, egg time

she had really good wigs

[storm jungle]

"egg time" is CRAZY

[heady rivet]

I dont have bald genes my family retains hair forever. My grandpa is in his late 80s and doesnt even have a bald spot

[urban spire]

🥚

[vagrant fox]

Nuffin wrong with being bald woman or not monks look cool dw

[storm jungle]

god

i need ep4 already

I CANT DO THIS

[vagrant fox]

Do powers in that setting manifest by a racism-sexism axis

[storm jungle]

Just like real life yea

[vagrant fox]

girl gets pink powers, asian man gets dragon powers

[urban spire]

that reminds me i need to watch that one show dilara likes so much

the one about the nazi

[heady rivet]

Wait wanna see my favorite wojak picture

[storm jungle]

Warhammer?

you already know it tho

[urban spire]

no the superhero one

[vagrant fox]

with the Homelanders?

[urban spire]

i'm genuinely blanking on the name

[storm jungle]

The Boys?

lmao

[rancid cove]

Yeah

[urban spire]

there's a lot of superhero shit with nazis in it, i'm learning

[storm jungle]

Yeah

LMAO

[storm jungle]

what the FUCK

[rancid cove]

LMFAAAAAO

[sharp pollen]

hm

[storm jungle]

oh shit

[solid horizon]

krill yourself

[storm jungle]

rare Tavi appearance

[urban spire]

the one where the guy does the nazi dance that made it into fortnite because epic can't read

[storm jungle]

📸

[rancid cove]

What

[storm jungle]

thats Peacemaker

you idiot

[vagrant fox]

oh with John Cena

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[urban spire]

that's the one

[vagrant fox]

they're all the same

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/little-garden-gnome-pills-pill-mintmake-gif-8478694409316170519

[rancid cove]

Oh

[vagrant fox]

Cenashow was pretty good though it was funny

[heady rivet]

Real video btw

[urban spire]

dog they look so fucking similar

[storm jungle]

They dont

LOL

[rancid cove]

The internet never ceases to disgust me

[urban spire]

they're all live action, they're made of flesh and stuff like that

they wear clothes

[vagrant fox]

Straight up when Peacemaker went to the other dimension and there was no coloured folk I didn't even vaguely notice it, funny as hell

[storm jungle]

Peacemaker is legit goated tho. My favorite part of Gunn as a director is in all his DC flicks he has rightoids and white supremacists get horrifically kiled

[mossy peak]

what did i join to

[storm jungle]

I love how evne Harcourt is like

"How did you not notice???"

"I DUNNO I JUST DIDNT"

[urban spire]

gunn's superman was SO GOOD

[storm jungle]

its painfully realistic lol

[heady rivet]

Watched almost exclusively by Asian men into cuckoldry, actually ☝️ 🤓

Or so I have heard

[storm jungle]

I LOVE how in interviews hes like

[vagrant fox]

I've seen like, 3 black people last year it's normal for me ok

[storm jungle]

guy is so fucking slick

lmao

like he said NOTHING

and israelites still got offended

genuinely fucking hilarious

[urban spire]

how dare he imply that killing hundreds of thousands of unarmed civilians with only a paper thin excuse is bad

[storm jungle]

"What is this villainious country murdering their neighbors??? THATS US! THATS OFFENSIVE!"

Bro no one mentioned you in the room, want something you want to tell the class?