40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

Yeah i cant make out the weapons on the left

[celest dome]

Is the left one a Rippergun ?

[limpid granite]

steel legion killteam

[storm jungle]

no idea

[limpid granite]

inb4 darktide teaser

[vagrant fox]

Almost looks like a glaive to me

[storm jungle]

its a firearm

the sidestuff is wings

deffo Guard

we also know Guard are getting some stuff from leaks

[limpid granite]

also orks

[vagrant fox]

This is all I can see

like a weird axe thingy

it's so tiny

[storm jungle]

its prob a scope

[vagrant fox]

We'll see while I sleep

More guardslop with "sensible" tactics for the unwashed hordes

[limpid granite]

here is a better screenshot

imagine theres a logistical error and the knights of blood are reinstated as primaris LOL

[vagrant fox]

As long as they go back to being based

[jade holly]

I want a story from the perspective of a man living under a kingdom and it follows his life. But throughout the story you see contradictions and inaccuracies such as blurred sky or faces that don’t seem to fit on faces. And near the end you realize it’s a Necron overlord trying to remember his life before biotransference

[limpid granite]

also looking closer that chalice has 100% the blood angel wings on it

its the same chalice as grail guard except for a skull a tear and the wings

hmmm

[storm jungle]

Flesh Eater Courts moment

[jade holly]

Could that sort of story work for Necrons too?

[celest dome]

yes

[storm jungle]

thats literally what dementia is

[jade holly]

Fair enough

[celest dome]

but it's a leitmotif with the flesh eaters too

[jade holly]

I just want more stories that go into the lost humanity of the Necrons

Like sure the big robot armies immortal hordes and stuff are fun

But to me the best part of Necrons is that disconnect between what they lost to become what they are

[limpid granite]

https://youtu.be/9GoIXM7oK5g?si=XUFpofh6xp0qKwho

[opaque coyote]

https://fxtwitter.com/earthlykisssed/status/2033974230908297602?s=46

kp (@earthlykisssed)

whatever happened after naagin 2 is between ekta and god

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[limpid granite]

the necron overlord waking up after being tricked by the c'tan

[opaque coyote]

Wtf is going on in Indian Soap Dramas bruh

[jade holly]

Just imagine a scene of those memories fading as he looks at his new hands, his mind racing to understand before he tries let out a shattered cry only to hear mechanical static

for how can those without souls truly show the emotions of one?

[vagrant fox]

I quite enjoy it when the assholes of group A are shown to be more similar to the assholes of group B than they thought

my favourites in warhammers

[opaque coyote]

"I WOULD KISS YOU IF YOU WEREN'T A HERETIC."

"AGREED."

[jade holly]

Can’t believe I’m dying side by side with an elf

[opaque coyote]

"How about... a friend."

"Ew fuck no."

"Yeah same."

[heady rivet]

If Elves were real nothing could stop me

[jade holly]

Rather die of drinking Leaf Lovers than be friends with a knife ear

[dapper gyro]

How about being friends with benefits?

[vagrant fox]

Nothing could stop me from getting at Thranduil nothing

[jade holly]

If Executioner Phillias were real

[limpid granite]

what if they were falmer

[heady rivet]

Nothing could stop me

[limpid granite]

https://klipy.com/gifs/foghorn-2

[vagrant fox]

actually maybe altmer could stop me

[jade holly]

I yearn for the embrace of a 9ft tall robot mo-

I mean what

[heady rivet]

NEVER ask a Nord the race of his gf

[storm jungle]

The nords are TWO WEEKS AWAY from taming Shout-WMDs

[limpid granite]

argonians are baddies ngl

[heady rivet]

Dilara this comparison didnt work when Ulfric literally shouted Throggler or whatever his name was apart

[jade holly]

Be like the Redguards, they kicked out the Aldmeri Dominion on their own

[limpid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/wmster-white-monster-energy-drink-monster-energy-gif-16051569233120380956

[jade holly]

[vagrant fox]

If I was world leader I'd ban people from playing argonians and khajit until they learn to appreciate bosmer

[fervent geode]

This is too much, the Tenple needs to invade Skyrim NOW

[vagrant fox]

Not that I like the bosmer but I haven't played argonians or khajit either

[jade holly]

I know what book you read

[vagrant fox]

Surely you mean House Redoran the most beneficent and gracious house

[fervent geode]

Dunmer Superiority Complex activated

[jade holly]

Wood elves in other fantasy: Nature is beautiful and peaceful, we must preserve it and protect it. We are friends all animals

Bosmer: Pass the salt, this deer is delicious

[fervent geode]

The Great Houses need to stop the Nord WMD development and SEIZE it for its rightful owners the Dunmer.

[jade holly]

Dwemer are my favorite Elder Scrolls race tho

I love Dwemer architecture

[heady rivet]

Its not a deer they're eating.

[vagrant fox]

It's almost sad that to this date no other elf in any story has been as cool as Fëanor

[heady rivet]

Listen every playable race is good in its own way. Except poop elves

[jade holly]

Dwemer are the only cool elves

Because they’re dwarves

[fervent geode]

Everyone knows from the Temple that the Dwemer were evil bearded bald men who stole candy from children, stabbed each other daily and jumped into garbage pits

[heady rivet]

The way its a different meme every time

[vagrant fox]

psh, ok, go play some nerdass poopy orsimer

[jade holly]

Dwemer were so cool they wiped out their race playing god cause living amongst mortals was too fucking boring

🗣️ 🔥

[fervent geode]

No one has outdone mr tolkien, and tbh the curse of silmarils went hard on his lineage

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/detroit-kentuckyfriedmovie-gif-9024674403821279202

[opaque coyote]

I find it funny that usually dwarves were either elves themselves

Or were friends with elves.
i
Like Warhammer Fantasy had the Dwarves originally be besties with the Elves until an incident happened that caused them to be sworn enemies.

Forgot what said incident was though

[jade holly]

Didn’t it work in a weird, messed up way?

Like they’re not dead dead

But something else?

[fervent geode]

No they just all died

Whaddya think the ash was

[heady rivet]

That fat fuck couldnt find em anywhere so

[opaque coyote]

It's implied that they're kinda in another plane of existence.

Or at least their souls. Their bodies turned to ash

[fervent geode]

Pretty sure they zero summed

[vagrant fox]

True
Only such a brilliant mind could conceive of a being whose birth was so difficult and tedious his mother gave up life and just decided to never reincarnate again, slayqueen kinslay his own species and then catch fire when he dies because he's too angry/his spirit is too strong

[jade holly]

If they come back as their constructs I’m gonna have some flashbacks

[fervent geode]

Like CHIM was too much

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/by-the-nine-im-tweakin-elder-scrolls-skyrim-gif-25519944

[vagrant fox]

99% they just zero-summed but there's some small hints the Dwemer just went somewhere else unknown

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I hope ES6 improves in gameplay

Shocking expectation I know.

But specifically improves on the RPG front

My worst pet peeve about Bethesda is how they continually gut the RPG mechanics of their serues

[heady rivet]

You didnt see that.

[vagrant fox]

ok man

[heady rivet]

You didnt see that.

[fervent geode]

That and the Fall of Gondolin technically just happening because Maeglin was thirsty

[vagrant fox]

I saw too much

[opaque coyote]

Like genuinely it's probably their worst flaw.

[vagrant fox]

bring out the yaoi paddle

[fervent geode]

Zero Sum imminent

[opaque coyote]

And usually these new systems are fucking worse

[jade holly]

You wish you had Dwemer drip

[opaque coyote]

Except 76's but even then that only works for the type of game it is

I like the card system surprisingly enough.

I don't think it should be in a new single player Fallout

[opaque coyote]

But for what 76 is. It works pretty well.

Even allows builds which generally Bethesda games don't do

[vagrant fox]

Some lads just go crazy over women it's not his fault

[vagrant fox]

this isn't yaoi

[opaque coyote]

But in general, I feel like besides 76, the simplification of the RPG parts usually just outright make the game worse.

I have no idea why Fo4 was made with it's S.P.E.C.I.A.L system

It just ruins the fucking game

[limpid granite]

i agree with bro

[heady rivet]

This statement is true. And?

[jade holly]

This is still one of the most badass pieces of Imotekh I’ve ever seen

[vagrant fox]

dismissed plus I think you're into ntr now

[opaque coyote]

Rant aside about Bethesda that nobody cares about

[vagrant fox]

After Starfield thogg don't care

[opaque coyote]

Why haven't we got more Chaos games

Like games with a Chaos protagonist

[vagrant fox]

Continued dumbing down of everything from gameplay to writing just makes me indifferent

[opaque coyote]

At most we get a campaign

[heady rivet]

I'm breaking out the cuckquean folder just for you babygirl

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it's less dumbing down and more just outright not changing shit.

I get it, don't fix it if it isn't broken. But it was broken

Fix it

[heady rivet]

I'm genuinely sad the next Fallout and Elder Scrolls will be plain ass

[opaque coyote]

The changes to the engine are actually impressive technology wise. It really improved a lot from Fo4's. But honestly, the game itself is plain asd

It's not like the creation engine is actually bad, contrary to popular belief

It's just that Bethesda refuses to use it to its full potential for some reason

[opaque coyote]

It's also worth noting that every engine is literally built off of older engines.

Like Source 2 is derived from Source which is derived from GoldSrc which is derived from fucking Quake

You can still find code from the 1990s

So the creation engine isn't unique due to it being built off of Gamebryo

[opaque coyote]

I hope they'll prove us all wrong

I doubt it

But I can dream

[daring creek]

kid named alpharius

[heady rivet]

I have completely given up

[opaque coyote]

Fair enough.

I'm close to it as well but I guess I'm stubborn

Either way if ES6 sucks ass then I will completely lose any hope

[vagrant fox]

The creation engine is cool in some of its features esp when it comes to what some of the things AI can do in it but what it fails at it fails so badly to me

Man this capital really is like 12 buildings that's crazy

[opaque coyote]

Tbf ES6 will be hard to succeed.

Too long

Too many expectations

[vagrant fox]

I'm not particularly interested, it's a cool setting but there's no shortage of those

[opaque coyote]

For me personally, if it's not a regression of gameplay and story

And an actual improvement

Then I'll count it

Like if features come back like spell making from Oblivion

Top tier

[vagrant fox]

If the writing isn't Pagliarulo tier I'll consider it

[opaque coyote]

Emil moment

[vagrant fox]

M. Night Shyamalan tier writer, wow isn't this surprise twist shocking

[opaque coyote]

Tbf he has been getting less involved.

He actually isn't that involved in Star field funnily enough

[vagrant fox]

is why I said Pagliarulo tier, they can maybe get out of that pit

Some of the writing in Fallout 76 was pretty decent

[jade holly]

Would you guys say Szarekh is one of the less morally horrific villains in 40K? He’s still an evil dickbag but I mean compared to the others

[vagrant fox]

about emperor tier to me

[jade holly]

Cause honestly to me he’s one of the more clear Anti Villains in the lore

Especially compared to Imotekh lmao

[solid horizon]

Todd has the same reaction with ES6 as trump with the Epstein list

[opaque coyote]

And I have the same reaction to both of them.

"THEN WHY DID YOU ANNOUNCE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?"

Also I did 11k steps today

My feet are sore

[heady rivet]

He has openly said he regrets showing off a teaser so soon, admitting they hadnt even started pre-production at the time it released

[crystal forum]

should have started working on it then

instead of dog shit like starfield

[vagrant fox]

admech confirmed

[tepid glacier]

Is this the necromunda set that vet has?

cause it looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the one at the game

chest it's smaller and looks weird

this looks really cool

[lament shoal]

Could be because these are the atoman enforcers

All hive city enforcers wear similar gear

[tepid glacier]

i wish they have similar look but with the related atoma insignia

or logo or whatever

but this looks weird in proportion

[arctic talon]

Based on it

[celest dome]

Miniatures don't have to take consideration on animations

[tepid glacier]

Yeah i understand but i think proportion work could be faar better at the set modeling

Head looks really big

[dapper gyro]

The head of the mini has similar proportion, if not actually proportionally bigger.

However, the torso piece cover the whole armpit and shoulder, which make the shoulders look larger than it should and therefore the head is seemingly smaller.

Such breastplate means no arm articulation to the upper arms, which is silly as hell.

[wary fulcrum]

I dunno about that like, Lucretia and Calpurnia both wear very different armour, and Helmawr’s enforcers are less enforcers in the traditional sense and more his own personal paramilitary group

I can see there being overlaps and repeated assets, but I don’t think every hive wears the same. I’ll have to double check the Cerebean lore but i’m not sure Necromundan Enforcers wear the same armour hive to hive

[storm jungle]

Some other hives do.

We got examples of them in rogue trader where planetary events have enforcers wearing Munda gear.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Enforcer_(Security_Force)

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah but not all, we have minis and novels where they have different armour

[storm jungle]

Still is the case where both statements can be true

[wary fulcrum]

I’m not sure how ‘all hive city enforcers wear similar gear’ can be simultaneously true as ‘all hive city enforcers don’t wear the same gear’

[storm jungle]

We literally have evidence of it with Darktide and RT event messages, again.

this isnt some madeup thing

and both are patended and approved by GW

Some planets do have unique enforcer gear which is also displayed on the lexi page but same goes with the Palatines gear

[wary fulcrum]

So’re these?

Like, ‘a lot of hive cities wear the same gear’

Yeah sure, 100%

But we have art and minis which show it’s not all

[rose thorn]

Tf am I looking at

[wary fulcrum]

Lucretia Barbaretta and Shira Calpurnia, the OG enforcers

Personally I’m loving the ‘not judge Dredd’ shoulder pad right there, but I tend to forgive 2000ad references considering how much crossover there is between the two companies

[storm jungle]

Okay and? Argument once again returns to the same place.

I also literally just said not all of them would be wearing the same gear

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-staring-15

Im gonna get a drink

[wary fulcrum]

I didn’t say you did? Did I reply to the wrong person?

Player Unknown said that ‘all hive city enforcers wear similar gear’

I pointed out that isn’t the case and provided examples to support the claim, is that even an argument?

[storm jungle]

[jade holly]

Check out these Shadowsun and Farsight models I saw

[solid horizon]

at the store today I saw a secondhand tau mecha with the old defiler skull head

such levels of iconoclasm will not be tolerated

[lament shoal]

Where in the game is this seen? I don't remember this artwork

Maybe its new

[solid horizon]

it is very hard to me to find an old defiler just for some doofus to glue its head on a tau armor

[storm jungle]

I forgot, theres a lot of these lol

its something regarding planetary order i think

[vagrant fox]

Outlast Trials update soon lads, mr Beasterman wil need me again

I'll spider on my eye 'til I lamb

[young pecan]

Outlast Trials' woman playerbase is what Dead by Daylight's woman playerbase think they are

I will not elaborate

[vagrant fox]

I don't want you to I think

[hollow lantern]

Real

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/mao-zedong-hello-chat-mao-gif-22461031

I am summoned

[heady rivet]

Not true btw, Enforcers are insanely varied and per-planet. This just confirms Atoma ripped off Necromunda in-universe which is hilarious

Or more likely

[dapper gyro]

Isn't Atoma that far from Munda and Cadia?

[heady rivet]

Necromundan Enforcers gear is a Cadia situation where everyone copies it

[arctic talon]

Atoma is extremely far from Cadia

Also Cadians is the other way around

Cadians just use the basic bitch stuff

[heady rivet]

Atoma and Necromunda are both in the Segmentum Solar

So yesnt

[arctic talon]

Atoma is parallel to necromunda

according to some old stuff

[heady rivet]

With how warp travel works there's a chance somewhere geographically closer to you is insanely hard to reach and somewhere far is very close

[heady rivet]

Atoma doesnt have a set location besides "Segmentum Solar", does it?

[arctic talon]

It did in the leiuten video thing

from ages ago

[heady rivet]

Sidenote why is the Lexicanum page for Atoma straight ass and just wrong

[heady rivet]

Actually wait I need to aquire a Wrath and Glory book real quick to check something

This might just be bad writing

[wary fulcrum]

it's a lexicanum page

[arctic talon]

lexicanum is always a cointoss

lol

[wary fulcrum]

(i'm being harsh, normally they're alright, a couple of issues but mostly fine)

(Bulveye is a fucking imposter used by two authors to try and leverage their way into the HH!)

[vagrant fox]

Isn't the moebian domain closer to the former Eye of Terror side of Segmentum Solar

[heady rivet]

The fandom page says "Northwest Segmentum Sol,ar" with 0 source thank you fandom wiki very cool

[vagrant fox]

Darktide wiki says Leutins video is the only source for that

[heady rivet]

Who even is that anyway

[vagrant fox]

Some developer interview or another

Idk some guy who talks a lot

[heady rivet]

Well fwiw Necromunda is the southern Segmentum Solar

[tepid glacier]

is the necromunda saga worth it? i was looking at the published books

[celest dome]

Early days we had the info from one of the CM that it was on the opposite side of Necromunda, I'll try to find it back

#general-chat message

[heady rivet]

I'm disgustingly biased to an insane degree. But yes.

[wary fulcrum]

which ones? Black Library or Specialist Games?

[tepid glacier]

what would be the most important books of the saga?

[heady rivet]

Well shit

[tepid glacier]

i'm not sure how those are numbered to be honest

i just saw some books on the related wiki of necromunda

and i was wondering

[vagrant fox]

Don't worry about Necromunda and read some Warhammer Crime instead

[heady rivet]

Start with Wanted: Dead and then Soulless Fury. No real reason, I just want to indoctrinate you for Escher and Escher-adjacent content. Then pick up the Kal Jerico Omnibus for a real start

[tepid glacier]

Thanks!

apreciate the indications

[storm jungle]

Whats wrong about it lmao

@soft thunder get in here and check out this yapper

[celest dome]

I will not accept Rabs slander

Or libel

[vagrant fox]

The beef is on

[celest dome]

This is a bannable offence

Court in session, who do we have for the defence team

No one ?

[wary fulcrum]

so aside from the Kal Jericho books there's no real linear series from Black Library, mostly it's vibes and a lot are out dated by new fluff (OG was like a western in space, new is feudal paramilitaries)

The Kal Jericho books are alright.

Fire Made Flesh follows on from a short novella with the same characters. It's a lot of fun.
Sinner's Bounty is the latest in the Kal Jericho series, it's alright but felt a bit like it was a selling point for various Dramatic Personae.
I particularly liked Road to Redemption.
Terminus Overkill is pretty grim and captures some of the vibes pretty well.

[vagrant fox]

I'm far too busy doing nothing

[storm jungle]

Sigsen is a lazy slob

[heady rivet]

Welp my struggle session is here it seems

[vagrant fox]

Pondering why I don't vibe with Elemental Council despite it being a competent book like a philosopher of yore

[heady rivet]

Yeah I did lowkey suggest two more modern stories to better fit the vibes of current Munda over ye old Munda

[storm jungle]

We're taking you to the back of the court house and shooting you btw

[tepid glacier]

thanks i'm making a little pdf guide to warhammer books and this info it's really usefull

[vagrant fox]

Put him in the Outlast Trials milking machine

[wary fulcrum]

if you're going through the Specialist Games books, which are the best ones for lore

Then probably the core book and the then the Succession campaign if you've no interest in playing.

Those are the only 5 books that follow on from each other. The rest can be grabbed depending on preference (Goliaths is good, and Nomads is fun)

[civic gale]

Dumb question

There is a way to communicate to the other side of the planet through vox right?

[storm jungle]

Yeah just need a big network like IRL

[heady rivet]

But if you're buying rulebooks you should start a gang anyway. Come on sport, just one gang. Just a try wont hurt

[storm jungle]

so like a dish or a comms-array

[civic gale]

Hmmm

Would make cult communication hard

[last stone]

Gotta use them satellite

[storm jungle]

Just make them use magic lol

[wary fulcrum]

I put them all aside to reread them recently because it's been that long, but they're borderline necromunda at this point

[civic gale]

You know what?

Good point

It's a chaos cult

They'll find a way

[heady rivet]

You cant chuck a rock on a Hive without hitting some ancient and abandoned massive technology and industrial hub dw about it

[last stone]

Psyker to psyker

[wary fulcrum]

I can't see a single false statement here

[civic gale]

Now the problem is...how does one disrupt magic

[vagrant fox]

If it takes exploding a guy into a message receiver chaos cults can do it surely

[last stone]

Black stone, blanks, a bullet to the face

[wary fulcrum]

With anger mostly

[heady rivet]

Other magic

[wary fulcrum]

you get angry, channel it into a collar

[civic gale]

Bullets work

[celest dome]

Other Psyker can also disrupt telepathic messages

[civic gale]

It's for my homebrew

[heady rivet]

Magic bullets

[storm jungle]

Remember the biggest advantage of the magic system in 40k is you can make up any sort of shit

[wary fulcrum]

this, psykers are deathly allergic to bullets

[last stone]

Lead allergy, makes me bleed

[civic gale]

If "coms disruption" is a slang in my homebrew for "kill the fucker who communicates telepathically or some shit" then be it

[heady rivet]

My Psykers power is he can raise cortisol levels

[celest dome]

Hah, jokes on you, leads are very rarely used for bullets nowadays

Your bullets will do nothing

[civic gale]

Still tho

With this in mind

I can just make a planet on a dim star which makes it always look like night

[young pecan]

So in Ravenor's book he does this thing a lot where he floats his soul out of his body for psyker on psyker fights and both he and the opponent make their souls take random ass animal forms while they fight

Is that like

a thing anywhere else

[civic gale]

Also is it one hive city per planet or...?

[last stone]

Wouldn't that make people blind?

[young pecan]

Or is Abnett just special

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-nightwolf-animality-gif-13699055939768025541

[wary fulcrum]

Magnus does it

Also Ahriman and Wyrdmake have a chat in those forms

[last stone]

Well he is certainly special

[celest dome]

Soul projection is, soul manipulation, ehh I guess

[wary fulcrum]

Necromunda has like, a thousand

[young pecan]

"I take the form of a sleek, slimy fish as I fly around the hive"

[celest dome]

Kinda difficult to say as yes it exist, but we don't necessarily see much all

[young pecan]

Just put the scouting in the bag bro 💔

[celest dome]

Necromunda only has like 10-20 Hive Clusters no ?

[heady rivet]

Its thousands but tbf I always read that as spires and they're clustered up a ton

[young pecan]

You picked salmon and I picked bear, I hate to say it but you got animal diff'd lil bro

[civic gale]

The idea is to make the hive city of Umbra (planet name still in work) adapt to the light, og concepts is that the planet works our north and south poles, hive cities however adapt to the light conditions with 40k technology

[heady rivet]

Necromunda has as many Hives as it needs for lore to happen

[wary fulcrum]

based on the dimensions given, you could fit a thousand in the UK

[heady rivet]

There's a hivve that fell and it took like 5 years for someone to even notice and check it out

[last stone]

That sounds horrible

In a "have to live through it"

[civic gale]

The idea or the planet?

[last stone]

Cool idea tho

[civic gale]

No like

[wary fulcrum]

dont forget the one that got forgotten.

Literally, Ordo Chronos fuckery

[civic gale]

Hive city provides either light or dark to help it's citizens y'know...work and sleep

[last stone]

Oh right

[civic gale]

Das the point

[last stone]

Make it be biological light

[wary fulcrum]

bioluminescent algae?

[civic gale]

Go on? (No clue what you're talking about

[heady rivet]

Anyway as with anything Warhammer It Depends. One hive, two hive, a hundred, a thousands, several thousands. Hives can be a couple million to hundreds of billions of people in them. They can be spread out like a web or all "clustered" up among each other like a forest of spires

[wary fulcrum]

(i always say that like the crab from Moana)

[civic gale]

2 hive cities then

[celest dome]

There are planets where the human mutated to be able to live in lower lights area, Nightsiders

[civic gale]

One for each side of the planet

[last stone]

Bioluminescent as mentioned

[civic gale]

Cult will work more on the one that's on the dark cycle to raise less suspicion

[last stone]

https://tenor.com/view/woman-fun-glowing-ocean-gif-8931789

[heady rivet]

Sometimes you have planets with a hive not called Hive worlds even

[civic gale]

Nah that'd ruin the vibe on my homebrew millitarum

[soft thunder]

what's wrong w/ it?

[celest dome]

And Nightsiders are a class of Abhuman, so you can make them in many different variant, Echolocation, low light vision, think one was mentioned with electromagnetic vision or some shit

[civic gale]

I take it back

[dapper gyro]

Well, your regiment would still be classed as subhuman.

I mean, abhuman.

[civic gale]

Special squad consisting of the empirum calls freaks being the best ones of the planet gotcha

Mutations aren't default are they?

[wary fulcrum]

for Abhumans they are

[civic gale]

Like some may and some may not

[wary fulcrum]

they're stable mutations

[civic gale]

Hmmm

Now.....on one side, abhuman millitarum....on the other....

Hmmm

Though calls

[storm jungle]

Its like IRL

mutations can spring up from anywhere

industrial accidents, polution, birth defects, etc

[last stone]

Getting kissed by a scaly boi

[civic gale]

No no I what I meant is, if one has a mutation, not everyone is guaranteed to right?

[storm jungle]

Depends on the mutation

same-couple abhumans will produce more of their own

[dapper gyro]

Being abhuman means they can reproduce to the same thing between members of their kind.

[civic gale]

[storm jungle]

but if its some random mutation then it can pass to the child in a more different way like IRL

[dapper gyro]

Unlike mutants...

[civic gale]

I'll give it some shower thinking

[wary fulcrum]

abhumans will, that's the thing about Abhumans, the strain is replicable

[dapper gyro]

Mutant is random mutation.

[wary fulcrum]

if its mutations you're talking futurama style

[civic gale]

With that in mind brb

[soft thunder]

Abhumans are as geneically stable as standard humans, thus the abhuman status.

theyy are still seen as mutants tho bc the imperium are racist and thats a good insult

technically all abhumans are STABLE mutants tho. likerally just a divergent subspecies

but that another convo

[dapper gyro]

Many abhuman can reproduce with "normal" human and the offspring get a little quality of each of the parents, but yes, the Imperium is racist.

[wary fulcrum]

and mutations may be really shitty. Like, curved spine, lower jaw fell off, malformed muscles on the legs

Or wings, spit acid, two heads, bone spurs but the cool kind

[dapper gyro]

Like you can stay with a Navigator and create a hybrid.

But neither the imperium nor the navigator house want that.

[soft thunder]

never heard of "crossbreeding" except in the case of standard humans and navbigators.

navigators are "borderline" abhumans tho

[celest dome]

You have 4 classes, they're for the most part legal term:

• Human: basic human can be augmented but born "normal"
• Abhuman: Stable Mutation that are widespread and used regularly by the Imperium, and Psykers
• Subs: "Stable" Mutation that aren't widespread and aren't used often but can something be made to work
• Mutant: Unstable Mutation, they are used in seldoms cases, but most of the time they're treated as monster needing to be put down.

[wary fulcrum]

there's also 70 odd types of abhuman too, og which we know maybe a dozen?

so lots of room for creativity

[soft thunder]

ya there's only like 17 named abhumans types

[celest dome]

Some of the Abhuman we know are blanket term for multiple strains of Abhuman too

[dapper gyro]

Most abhuman are not that much different from normal human in the 1st place.

[celest dome]

Ogryn is 7 or something variants

[dapper gyro]

Though, many of them are granted that title so they can be allowed to use in the Imperium military and work forces.

Orgryn is straight up physically unfit for cross breeding.

[soft thunder]

and we only have meaningful lore on maybe 5 or so abhuman types

[dapper gyro]

Anyhow, that means cat girl are real in 40K.

[civic gale]

Hmmmm

Well my idea now is the following

Hive cities with like....200k ish people where around 50 families are abhumans which have specially adapted to the planets conditions

[celest dome]

Abhuman is a legal term, Beastmen lost it in some places but not other, Psyker are listed as Abhuman but are hella unstable and can be born from 2 non-Psyker peoples

[dapper gyro]

200K people? It is like a medium city in real life...

[storm jungle]

^

[dapper gyro]

Not even major city...

[storm jungle]

A Hive can hold billions

200k is like one hab-sector

for example in Darktide the Hive of Tertium is 90 Billion

and thats also 1 hive

[dapper gyro]

LA is like 4 millions people.

200K is not even a sector, it is a block.

[hallow plover]

What percentage of tertium is currently compromised?

[civic gale]

Oh-

[soft thunder]

if anything comes up or there's a question lmk, I wrote both the pages lmao

[storm jungle]

mid-hive to the bottom

[civic gale]

And here I was afraid of being too much

[storm jungle]

First rule of 40k

add 00000 into the end of everything

[hallow plover]

Add a few 0's

[storm jungle]

and always keep shit at billion-trillion

human life is extremely cheap in the Imperium

[hallow plover]

The rejects have it good tbh

[dapper gyro]

That number is so small compare to real life in the 1st place.

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are basically CIA mercenaries

once Tertium is done they will just go and keep fighting somewhere else while having the Inquisition's authority

lmao

ironically better than being in something like the Guard

[civic gale]

Damn

[hallow plover]

Considering they should have been executed aboard the Tancred Bastion

[storm jungle]

[hallow plover]

In an alternate universe we don't help Zola and Wolfer rescues us

[civic gale]

Fuck me then...think it's reasonable to have a millitarum just of abhumans?

[soft thunder]

yes

[wary fulcrum]

so you could work backwards from real life examples

Takethe population density of Kowloon or Manila and then extrapolate it by the size of the area you're after

[storm jungle]

those are Abhuman Auxilia

not regiments

[civic gale]

Sign me the fuck in then

[hallow saddle]

3rd ed guard codex has a pure ogryn regiment

[storm jungle]

but basically yes

[civic gale]

FAAAAAA

[storm jungle]

ITS BASICALLY THE SAME THING

[soft thunder]

I'm still in the midst of updating this page, but its a starting point https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Militarum_Auxilla

[storm jungle]

they just get tagged as that because the yare "mutant freaks"

[hallow plover]

It's the branded name

[storm jungle]

remember abhumans are barely tolerated in the Guard as is and are treated horribly

[hallow plover]

Abhuman Auxilia ||tm||

[soft thunder]

They are usually chopped up into squad or platoons of specialists that are then attached to normal human regiments

[wary fulcrum]

except Ogryns who we love and adore

[soft thunder]

but there are entire abhuman regiments

[storm jungle]

[civic gale]

But then making full on abhuman millitarum wouldn't the population just be against em?

[storm jungle]

Yes

[wary fulcrum]

they are the Emperor's own children

Not like those thieving bastards the Ratlings

[storm jungle]

mutants are encouraged to be hated in the Imperium

abhumans enter this category as well

they just are kept around because they are useful

[wary fulcrum]

abhor the witch, the mutant, the heretic

[soft thunder]

the church literally encourages you to murder abhumans and psykers w/ no questions

[hallow plover]

By the Emperor's will

[storm jungle]

mega-hitler gathering

[civic gale]

Abhumans inclusion will be solely dependent on this answer

[dapper gyro]

This is why the Inquisition needs to act fast to get their prize, or the Scholar/black ships have to give special order so people can give up psykers as taxes.

[civic gale]

Is there any abhuman which focuses on stealth and night/low visibility operations?

[dapper gyro]

Ratling...

[soft thunder]

i think theres like 3

[wary fulcrum]

if you want there to be, yes

[soft thunder]

are nightsiders the one in the hades hive book?

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nightsider

[wary fulcrum]

do Tanith count as abhumans?

I mean they're technically humans, but also they're uncouth

[dapper gyro]

They are not.

[wary fulcrum]

aint no way MkVenner getting into a fancy restaurant

well, not through the front door at any rate

or maybe he would and they wouldn't notice...

[dapper gyro]

That can be said to many individuals.

[soft thunder]

sidenote, militarum auxilia also includes local militias, attached psykers from the scholastica psykana, ministorum preachers, and admech attachments like enginseers. Which is confusing since it's also the org than manages all the abhuman regiments

[civic gale]

Nightsiders do happen to be the ones with according to the wiki vestigial eyes so...

And maybe echolocation

[wary fulcrum]

so the issue with this is that it's entirely possible for any abhuman to focus on stealth with varying degrees of difficulty.

Do you mean does their abhuman strain lend them towards stealth and low light? Entirely possible, but then the downside would be most Navy ships would mess with their eyes, so they'd probably put out the lights, so then they'd probably have a lot of commissars or some kind of discipline enforcer to deaal with that.

Which also adds to the character and make up of the army

(yes the navy could dim the lights, but they wont, because that requirs flicking a switch that's over there to help abhumans, so no)

[wary fulcrum]

my comment equally applies to them

[civic gale]

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

i forgot that we are talking about 40k

it is grim dark for a reason

[arctic talon]

💀

[civic gale]

what

[wary fulcrum]

Exactly! Eessentially it's following a quirk and how that quirk impacts the rest of your setting within this frame, which is a really cool way of building an army or a regiment

[civic gale]

i still havent gotten to comissars

[wary fulcrum]

so these guys are better at seeing at night and are deployed for night time operations (generally)

But are they worse in daylight? Does that stop any commander using them in daylight?

They can't only be useful in low light areas, but they have a preference. So do they use autoguns instead of lasguns because the flash is easier to deal with?

Do they avoid flamers altogether?

[civic gale]

only in the "millitia" part

[wary fulcrum]

I'm not even at the "is the cthulean god my nomads worship an awoken old one that the Delaque work with, or linked to chaos, or something else altogether?" and i've been planning this for like, 3 years

its literally the first question, so you're further ahead than me

[civic gale]

Damn

[storm jungle]

Commissars are the easiest to do

they are outsider officers that get attached to regiments so they just learn to swim from there regarding their role

[last stone]

Yeah they are from any of the schola, so they are not your type of citizens

[last stone]

The god of breakfast, known for his Khorne flakes

[wary fulcrum]

without which the Hanger sets in

[last stone]

Hahaha

[lament shoal]

Ah gotcha, mb

[opaque coyote]

https://youtube.com/shorts/5Mhu0aZTYjg?si=N_leHsAD5yPG7CtR

[daring creek]

Is it fair to see the imperium as the greater or equal evil when compared to chaos because they facilitate chaos corruption?

[storm jungle]

both on varying degrees

the Imperium being the "last bastion against" chaos is very idiotic when you consider the amount of harm they've directly and inadvertedly done to the galaxy

the entire reason Chaos rn is triumphant is because the Emperor had to make space marines lol

same as why its split in half

[opaque coyote]

Remember to get said drugs via babies. They give an extra kick

Good for your skin

[daring creek]

Like I fully believe the Imperium has the might and the means to smite chaos. They just choose not to

[storm jungle]

They really do not.

Chaos is a infectious force that the Imperium openly feeds

[opaque coyote]

Not really tbf.

Like it's hard fighting something that literally can't permanently die 99% of the time

[storm jungle]

they could erase a thousand worlds and it would still crop up and return

[opaque coyote]

1% being special weapons

Like the Emperor's sword

How do I say this

During the Age of Strife. There was already a festering wound.

The Imperium made it worse

By trying to make it better... in the worst way possible

[lament shoal]

Imo the only difference between chaos and the imperium is that chaos doesn't try to hide or justify why its evil

[daring creek]

The feeding part is what makes me feel the Imperium is more primarily responsible

[opaque coyote]

It's like

Y'know how bones can heal wrong?

[storm jungle]

They always have been

[storm jungle]

again remember ^

[opaque coyote]

So you have to re break the leg?

The Imperium heard that but missed the essence

And now the bones are fucking dust

[daring creek]

Oh yeah right

Oof.

[storm jungle]

if the Emperor didnt make Space Marines we wouldnt be in this shitshow

lmao

[lament shoal]

Space marines should simply stop being dumb by turning to chaos

[opaque coyote]

Would argue the primarchs are more at fault due to them directly controlling their legion of SMs.

Arguably if they didn't have Primarchs. It would've been far less damaging

[storm jungle]

even without the primarchs space marines would fall to chaos

they have always been fallible

[opaque coyote]

True, but it would be much less organized

[storm jungle]

Nah

would still happen

sooner or later

WHF/AOS are proper proofs of this

Primarchs just speedrunned it

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but maybe it would've given the Emperor enough time to uh

Old Yeller them once they did the bulk of their work

[young pecan]

mfw I try to solve chaos, which is caused by strife, by reallocating all of my funds out of economic welfare and workers' rights into hypermilitaristic policies

[storm jungle]

LOL

[young pecan]

[lament shoal]

Emps wasn't as smart as he thought he was

[young pecan]

You can at least argue that most Imperium people don't know that that's what goes into chaos

But surely big E knew

[opaque coyote]

Like a said.

"To heal the leg, you're gonna have to re break it to prevent it from growing wro-"

"Okay!"

The Imperium grabs a Thunder Hammer

"What the fuck are you doing-"

Charges the Thunder Hammer "aaaaAAAAA-"

SLAM

[storm jungle]

meanwhile the Chad Sigmar

accepts hes a god

isnt hitler

[lament shoal]

Imagine if emps did all that shit, fully knowing what would happen, simply cuz he was bored

[storm jungle]

leads people to fight against chaos

[storm jungle]

Also remember nobody forced him into being a genocidal tyrant

HE chose this

and he got what he fucking deserved

[opaque coyote]

"Why father. Why did you do this?"

"idk I was bored"

[young pecan]

tolerates racism as a little treat rather than a societal lifestyle

[lament shoal]

"My father was murdered. TIME TO BE SUPER HITLER!"

[storm jungle]

speaking of

[opaque coyote]

Tbf that's more of a "I don't have time for this" type of thing

Rather than outright encouraging it fully

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/qOwN0i-aN2M

great video by Pancreas

[young pecan]

No I mean I understand it against wutelgi

[opaque coyote]

Unlike the Imperium

[storm jungle]

highly recommend watching

[young pecan]

Wood elves are probably the most worth racisming

[opaque coyote]

Pancreas. My favorite Eldar Supremacist

[storm jungle]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

Hopefully it works one day...

[lament shoal]

💀

[opaque coyote]

Slaanesh didn't actually get summoned by their hedonism

GW just sent them through

[lament shoal]

GW executives were the real chaos gods all along

[opaque coyote]

GW is the Dark King

[young pecan]

me @ Slaanesh "fans" when they talk about how much they want to bang her

[opaque coyote]

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/statefarm-well-shes-a-guy-gif-10554521

[lament shoal]

Not a deal breaker for me personally

[opaque coyote]

Part of the fun clearly™

[storm jungle]

yeah a lot of people forget Slaanesh is referred to as a man lol

but hes prob looking like Griffith so

[young pecan]

They are literally all brothers LMAO

[storm jungle]

YEA

[opaque coyote]

Jokes aside I think Slaanesh just switches between pronouns.

With both feminine and masculine titles

She-Who-Thirsts and Prince of Darkness

[storm jungle]

hes always referred to as a guy unless its the eldar

[young pecan]

I mean you can do gay if you want but I know the dorks who spam horny are NOT built like that

[surreal nest]

i love how they say Warband! now instead of Rejects for patch notes

[lament shoal]

Ngl drukhari are kinda dumb for not having a post death safeguard against slaanesh like the cw eldar do, at least afaik

[opaque coyote]

Tbf they aren't exactly... Forward thinking

If they were

[lament shoal]

Yeah lol they're too focused on hedonism

[opaque coyote]

They wouldn't be in this position in the first place

[storm jungle]

they always said that

thye also still call you rejects at times

[lament shoal]

Exactly lmfao

[young pecan]

Oh, do they? That's pretty neat.
Anyway when are dclaw buffs and inferno staff nerfs coming 😴

[storm jungle]

its basically a slang now

[surreal nest]

You are lying

[storm jungle]

Im not. I always tell the truth.

And you always lie.

Such is the nature of the furry

[lament shoal]

Average krieger fan 🥀

[young pecan]

Dilara you can't pander to the chuds bro, you nuked them all

[lament shoal]

LMFAO

[surreal nest]

they went from Rejects to Everyone to Warband

pathetic!

[young pecan]

What

Idk if I should ask for context

[storm jungle]

BL means "boys love"

[young pecan]

OH

[storm jungle]

KEK

[young pecan]

Right

[opaque coyote]

The Eldar are the ones who created Slaanesh in the first place.

Then again, I like to think it depends on the race. After all, for humanity, most of our pronouns and swears are based from a masculine pov.

Maybe that's why Slaanesh is referred to with masculine pronouns for humanity.

Or I'm just overthinking it.

[storm jungle]

Still a guy.

stop overthinking

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-just-chill-chill-dude-dude-chilling-gif-11901292

[lament shoal]

I like Swagger. Ik he's probably nice because of ulterior motives. Idc

Great guy

[opaque coyote]

Griffith looking ahh

[young pecan]

I mean Slaanesh can trans they gender a little as a treat

[mossy peak]

the chaos gods have genders? aren’t they like primordial forces

[young pecan]

Or a lot, Idk how often he uses the "look I have boobs" tech

[opaque coyote]

In general I feel like Slaanesh is the type to literally steal pronouns

[lament shoal]

They been having genders

[civic gale]

Wtf is going on here

[opaque coyote]

Slaaneshi stuff

[mossy peak]

slaanesh created the gender fluid

[young pecan]

Slaanesh is evil transgender representation don't worry about it

[civic gale]

Freaky shit I can see that

[tough haven]

Ye olde lasgun

[opaque coyote]

Fantastic. We finally got evil trans representation

[young pecan]

I was tired of them being good guys

We need more manipulators

Evelyn from League is a start

[mossy peak]

league of legends mentioned

[jade holly]

Oryx smh

[civic gale]

Problem is that I also saw this so

[young pecan]

If it makes you feel better I also lost brain cells having to say its name

[mossy peak]

kayn from league too

[young pecan]

He don't trans his gender, no?

[mossy peak]

every artist on twitter draws him transmasc so i choose to believe its canon

[civic gale]

Evelyn got a whole ass gang

[young pecan]

Fair enough

[young pecan]

Dudes can have ass

Or did I miss the point

[jade holly]

I can take em

[arctic talon]

Evelynn just tortures you to death

[jade holly]

….

[arctic talon]

[jade holly]

In a fight I mean

[arctic talon]

bro they are demons you are cooked

[young pecan]

Wow you shut Grimm down fast

I registered half a second between them saying that and you responding

[arctic talon]

No like thats her whole thing, she baits horny idiots in and then tortures them to death

[young pecan]

B-based

sorry

[arctic talon]

LOL

[jade holly]

Smh clearly you don’t know my type is 7ft+ Robot women who could lift me with ease

[civic gale]

They all lure you somehow and do it

[arctic talon]

tbh

[civic gale]

You can see the actual demon in the reflections on the art

[arctic talon]

I love the use of reflections

yeah

[mossy peak]

her whole thing is she appears as what is attractive to her victims

[young pecan]

LoL art team
LoL design team

[mossy peak]

male or female

[young pecan]

They or Nay

[jade holly]

So that explains the floating Popeyes that I’m seeing

[arctic talon]

Demons are genderless but evelynn prefers to present as female

same with Raum and Kench prefering to present as male

[mossy peak]

lol art team seeing the 1000th conventionally attractive white/white passing champ and skin design pushed by the higher ups

[arctic talon]

the really old fucked up daemons don't get pronouns though

lol

Fiddlesticks and Ashlesh both get It/Its

[young pecan]

Fiddlesticks is my favorite LoL demon

So cool

[mossy peak]

https://tenor.com/view/fiddle-fiddlesticks-league-of-legends-video-game-approach-gif-16575416

[young pecan]

Canonically he isn't even always a scarecrow

[jade holly]

I just want champs that aren’t conventionally attractive and from Ionia all the time

[young pecan]

I think he just looked like that because it was most scary to the two guys in his animatic

[jade holly]

I loved the monster champs

[arctic talon]

too bad

[jade holly]

Tahm, A Sol, Naut, Thresh

[arctic talon]

Monster champs barely get played

unfortunately lol

[mossy peak]

i want more ugly fucked up chuds

[arctic talon]

Riot doesnt' consider Thresh, Naut or Tahm monster champs

lol

they're humanoid

[jade holly]

After they hit Thresh with the Twink Ray smh

[young pecan]

My biggest gripe with LoL was when they made Karma get ruined in that one event

[arctic talon]

Riot doesn't even consider Bel'veth a monster champ

[young pecan]

Made no sense

[mossy peak]

tahm is definitely monster

thresh no

[young pecan]

Thank god they said it wasn't canon

Still stupid tho

[mossy peak]

all his skins are human

[arctic talon]

ruination was a clusterfuck

Riots definition of monster is non bipedal

non humanoid

[mossy peak]

we don’t speak of the ruination event

[arctic talon]

extremely monstrous

[mossy peak]

biggest lore shit show

other than arc*ne

[arctic talon]

it wasn't written

by the lore team

btw

lol

regarding Ruination

[jade holly]

Ruination when it barely uses Yorick who was made to be a pivotal character to fight the Ruined King

[arctic talon]

Never let the skin team cook again

the lore team shoving it into the hell corner is the correct decision

[jade holly]

And also the Ruined King’s design looking like an edgy e boy taking up biker aesthetic

[arctic talon]

until they inevitably get around to fixing it

nah

Viego being a petulant man child fits

[jade holly]

Personality yeah, but his visual design sucks imo

[arctic talon]

Eh

his design is fine

I prefer his design n Ruined King

but his design itself is fine

[young pecan]

I think most people could guess as much 😭

[arctic talon]

The last monster champ Riot made was Naafiri

by their definitions

[jade holly]

This is peak character design imo

[arctic talon]

Before that was yuumi

Then A Sol

then Rek'Sai

Riot not considering Bel'veth a monster champ is so funny lol

but it makes sense

[jade holly]

But these 2 are a close 2nd and 3rd

Urgot is so fucking cool

[arctic talon]

Mordes a little boring ngl

visually

[jade holly]

But why was he not used in Arcane?

[arctic talon]

his lore is whats cool

[arctic talon]

he literally wasn't there yet

Swain isn't in power yet

during Arcane

Urgot literally is not in Zaun yet

[young pecan]

I get way too hung up on it but you're telling me objectively one of the most if not the most wise of beings in the universe who has full faculties over the minds of hundreds of people who lived the same enlightening lifestyle as past lives, gets corrupted

That makes sense actually

[arctic talon]

they should have just made it so that Karma(the host) not the spirit gets corrupted

lol

[young pecan]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

I forgot Karma's current host name

💀

[jade holly]

Next host for Karma trust

[young pecan]

I thought the lore completely erased her name once she became Karma

I must have forgor too

[arctic talon]

she erased her name

but its mentioned

[young pecan]

Karma is such a cool concept btw

[arctic talon]

Darha

is her name

previous host was Jakgri

[young pecan]

AtLA did it first unless there's another media but that concept is awesome

[jade holly]

I was gonna say League should add a champ similar to this but this is literally Vel’Koz

[languid meadow]

velkoz but cooler

[arctic talon]

thats naafiri and velkoz mashed up

[languid meadow]

I wish he looked like that

[arctic talon]

lol

Velkoz in lore looks horrifying

[jade holly]

Vile Lictor my beloved

[arctic talon]

have you seen him in lore

[languid meadow]

Yeah

in game he looks stupid

but lore he's pretty cool

[young pecan]

Vel'koz if he wasn't a knockup-fishing ult bot

[jade holly]

Vile Lictor is arguably the scariest villain in Borderlands history actually

[languid meadow]

Azzap

[arctic talon]

get me the fuck away from that shit

I hate it

[languid meadow]

god such aura

https://tenor.com/view/league-champions-gif-17982535

[arctic talon]

All the fall of icathia art was insane

[languid meadow]

but we have this....

[arctic talon]

lol

[young pecan]

I only realized he was that big when I saw him in the card game

Same with Malphite and Galio

[arctic talon]

Make Shurima Great Again
-Azir

[jade holly]

Ever seen the Cho’Gath redesign someone made?

[languid meadow]

that's just

deviljo

[arctic talon]

LOL

yeah

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/deviljho-vs-diablos-mh-world-iceborne-mh-world-monster-hunter-world-iceborne-monster-hunter-world-gif-17762474930238325031

[arctic talon]

its got the same texture around the neck

fall of Icathia's art is so good

[mossy peak]

i want to pick up chogath so bad but his current model is genuinely unusable 😭

[mossy peak]

and dark star still hasn’t entered the mythic shop

[arctic talon]

I blame azir anyways/j

[jade holly]

Here’s how it would’ve looked in game

[arctic talon]

I don't care how he wasn't emperor at the time

[languid meadow]

that's way better

[arctic talon]

he's the ancestor of the Shuriman Emperor who fucked with Icathia

[languid meadow]

the art looked like deviljho

[arctic talon]

Yeah the art is literally just the pickle lol

but purple with clalws

[mossy peak]

i blame the icathians like riot wants

[jade holly]

Y’all see Black Cat in Marvel Rivals yet?

[mossy peak]

and sylas and zaun

the bad guys

[arctic talon]

The Icathians were based

[mossy peak]

and xerath

[arctic talon]

Xerath is literally a dumbass

but so is Azir

[jade holly]

Two dumbasses with 0 communication skills

[storm jungle]

Another goonbait character

and another asian industry plant

[mossy peak]

xerath and azir lwk magnus and the emperor if they were yaoi

[jade holly]

Apparently according to clues next season’s heroes are Moon Girl + Devil Dino and Cyclops

[arctic talon]

Sylas is literally an extremely violent terrorist freedom fighter who doesn't care about collateral damageu ntil way later even if his cause is just

[storm jungle]

Who the fuck is Moon Girl

lmao

another korean hero?

[arctic talon]

I think thats fine characterization

Sylas can do bad things for a just cause imo

not sure why people don't want fucking nuance

[jade holly]

Smartass girl fighting side by side with a dinosaur

[storm jungle]

holy shit its Invincible

AND DINOSAURUS

[jade holly]

She has some cool gadgets and skates around everywhere

[languid meadow]

I need to watch Ep3 still of S4

[jade holly]

She also has her own show

[languid meadow]

but holy shit

EP2 was PEAK

[jade holly]

That got cancelled

[storm jungle]

Bro Episode 2 was INSANE

[arctic talon]

Good episodes

lol

[storm jungle]

that fucking scourge virus segment was crazy

[jade holly]

S4’s out already?

[languid meadow]

making me feel bad????

[storm jungle]

literally what Fo wanted to do marines/primarchs, if only it actually happened

[surreal nest]

be quiet im watching it rn

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[mossy peak]

bc riots currently looking like they’re gonna retcon the nuance out of it with the demacia season

[storm jungle]

simmer down bitch

[arctic talon]

Also stop spoiling nerds

[storm jungle]

ill be posting spoilers

[arctic talon]

they're literally not

this is way before the mage rebellion

I highly doubt Riots going to get rid of Sylas being a literal terrorist and Demacia being god awful to mages

[jade holly]

Mageseeker helped flesh his character out way more

[arctic talon]

Yeah

mageseeker is his transition point

between literally not giving a shit about how much damage he causes

[jade holly]

Remember Riotforge? The studio that got shut down but made a lot of cool games?

[arctic talon]

and actually thinking

Riotforge wasn't a studio

it was a licensing name

[storm jungle]

Guys im gonna have to ask you to stop talking about League

its time for Invincible

https://klipy.com/gifs/invincible-oliver-invincible

[mossy peak]

they made the ziggs rhythm game there’s nothing that can top that

[arctic talon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/invulnerable

[jade holly]

Can I talk about the hero’s I want to see in Marvel Rivals?

[storm jungle]

they are all goonbait

so no

[jade holly]

they’re not gooner bait

[storm jungle]

you are banned

[mossy peak]

like kayle ult? league reference

[storm jungle]

brainrot ult?

[jade holly]

I can promise you they ain’t goonerbait

[mossy peak]

i like marvel rivals bc it’s gender inclusive in its goonerbait

[rose thorn]

HUH????

[jade holly]

LET’S GOOOOOOOOO

[storm jungle]

its really not

theres barely any slutty male characters

[jade holly]

The Thong

[storm jungle]

the female goonerbait is like endless

[jade holly]

[rose thorn]

80’TRILLION????

[arctic talon]

yeah this

[storm jungle]

Yeah again not equal

lol

[arctic talon]

give me hotter men

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

I can speak about this

[storm jungle]

i feel like people forget the studio is chinese

[arctic talon]

lol

[storm jungle]

and like

infamously homophobic

lol

[arctic talon]

there's some chinese studios that make hot men

smh

[storm jungle]

twinks dotn count

[jade holly]

Angela mentions Sera if that counts for anything

[arctic talon]

this is opression towards chinese studios

[rose thorn]

I just finished my bio homework I thought this said hydrophobic

[storm jungle]

thats because its in the comics

shes still goonbait

[midnight dragon]

Me:

[rose thorn]

LMAOOOOO

[storm jungle]

you are NOT in Rivals

[jade holly]

But the Heroes I wanna see in Rivals are Nimrod, War Machine, Red Hulk, Juggernaut, Luke Cage, Heimdall and High Evo

[mossy peak]

you don’t know the big ‘vals like that

[rose thorn]

You know who was a slutty male character tho?

[mossy peak]

corporate mordekaiser

[midnight dragon]

Are we just going pretend the guys in rivals aren't hot

[storm jungle]

They are fine

the women are way more sexualized

lol

[rose thorn]

THATS RIGHT, THE NUMBER ONE VOTED CHARACTER BY FEMALE VOTES

[storm jungle]

have yall seen like most of the female character skins?

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/nagito-komaeda-danganronpa-goodbye-despair-gif-4334556751919184155

[midnight dragon]

No doubt I'm just sayin

[storm jungle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doakes-dexter

[jade holly]

And then there’s me fawning over how adorable Squirrel Girl is in her Christmas skin

She looks like she’d give warm hugs

I’m so lonely

[mossy peak]

was leon like not in the vote or something

[midnight dragon]

Whats big vals

[rose thorn]

No…. Because it was for a Danganropa convention

[young pecan]

He couldn't make it, he was too busy backflipping

[mossy peak]

the big marvel rivals

[rose thorn]

I am reaching peak 2015

[rose thorn]

HES ALSO THE NUMBER ONE THMVLR SEXYMA

[jade holly]

Were Hazbin Hotel characters not in the polls?

[rose thorn]

Tumblr doenst really like hazbin

It’s more of a Twitter thing

[jade holly]

I don’t either, I just think some of the songs are good

[midnight dragon]

This is why I support the imperium because I'm anti AI and the imperium does their art the way it's suppose to be done (with a pen) you aren't a real artist unless you support the imperium

[storm jungle]

AI we have today isnt AI

[arctic talon]

yeah