40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Corpos would totally pull this type of shit

But like this is not the immersive stuff I want

[opaque coyote]

Like Corpos would totally make any added mod unremovable to force you to buy another gun

[hollow lantern]

Never bothered me but I also very rarely replace mods or use different weapons ig

[opaque coyote]

Or to force you to their specific repair shops

Genius Bar moment

Like if there is one detail I appreciate.

Each corpo gun has their own rail system

Which implies that Corpos basically pulled an Apple

You can only use Arasaka branded sights for Arasaka guns

[mossy peak]

not true, there’s the one anti vehicle sniper you get from the fight club quest line

[hollow lantern]

"almost all"

[opaque coyote]

Of course, that isn't in gameplay

But I always liked that detail

[hollow lantern]

Guns are lame anyway

[opaque coyote]

Speaking of 2077's melee weapons

I think the embedded ones are cool

Mantis blades, gorilla arms, and Monowire.

But the lack of traditional melee variety blows

The only sword you can use is a katana

And they don't even vary in length with like one exception

I have fucking metal shoved up my spine

Where the fuck is my Odachi

[winter pine]

I hope the next game includes the Martial Arts system

Been wanting to try my SovSystem + Drunken Fist Solo on my usual west marches server, seems like a really fun combo

[wary fulcrum]

Oh that’d be sick

[opaque coyote]

But I think what's even lamer is that there's no other swords or country styled weapons.

With the only exception being like

A Witcher 3 reference

Why can't I use a Zweihander

Or a claymore

[wary fulcrum]

Oblivion had it, and I’m really annoyed they got rid of it in the update

[opaque coyote]

Or even just a regular longsword

[hollow lantern]

Because Japanese culture permeates Night City iirc

[opaque coyote]

I know

[hollow lantern]

Blame Saka

[opaque coyote]

But still you think there would be some companies that would try to compete in the melee market

[wary fulcrum]

Not really, you get like, 2 Japanese weapons

Kaiken and Katana

[hollow lantern]

It's also why you don't get European style swords iirc

[young pecan]

Does anyone here like dinosaur

[hollow lantern]

Yes

[young pecan]

What's your favorite

[hollow lantern]

Baryonyx, Troodon

Big fan of Pachy too

[young pecan]

Troodons were such little bastards back when I played Ark

They're cool though

[hollow lantern]

That's why I like them

Little bastards

Yours?

[young pecan]

I hated therizinosaurus because of its existence in Ark but I came to like it eventually and that's my favorite

Last night I read a study about their claws

[hollow lantern]

Iirc they used em to forage mainly

[opaque coyote]

Katana,

There is a unique dagger that's a Tanto. You get it after Saburo is killed

There's a Kanabo. Japanese club

The Kaiken is a throw able knife that's Japanese.

Tbf you are right in that a majority aren't Japanese

[young pecan]

It's debated within the space atm but we can definitely rule out that they were not used for digging at all

[opaque coyote]

But they're also usually kinda boring

Wow a lead pipe

Only exception being stuff like the Cut-o-matic

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[young pecan]

The durability was extremely not compatible with scratch digging. It was slight stress when used for motions related to hook-pulling foliage

The least stress seemed to be on actions with piercing, where the tip of the claw is the focal point

So it seems like they were most likely using them for foraging, and MAYBE self defence against most likely Tarbosaurs

[hollow lantern]

Yeah, that seems right

[arctic talon]

You get that on the tabletop, for the game it’s due to redundancy

[hollow lantern]

I think that's what the last study I read said about em

Cool animal tbh

[arctic talon]

Cyberpunk 2077 does its best to have 0 redundant weapons

In its sandbox

Every single gun serves a unique purpose or works differently

Even if it’s just generic AR

[hollow lantern]

Love me headsman

[rose thorn]

how od i convince my deathwatch wife to play darktide

[limpid granite]

i fucking love the yinglong smg and shingen mark v

[rose thorn]

wife as in a pet name

not litearlly married

[arctic talon]

It is slightly annoying for lore and flavor reasons

But whatever

I don’t think the average gamer want 3 variations of a gun that do the exact same thing and are near identical

But they look different and the corporation who made it is different

[rose thorn]

nvm that shit is 80 gigs

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I'm aware

But I feel like the melee weapons are boring

[arctic talon]

Only so much you can do with melee unfortunately lol

[opaque coyote]

Idk wtf a lead pipe would fulfill in the sandbox

[arctic talon]

It’s the slower one handed blunt melee

lol

[opaque coyote]

Either way, would've been interesting if it was replaced with a mace

Clearly

[hollow lantern]

I prefer melee combat tbh

By a really large margin

[opaque coyote]

Also no two handed blade

[hollow lantern]

Fists+katana+knife is peak gameplay

[opaque coyote]

Oh no wait Katana

[arctic talon]

Gorilla arms gamin

[opaque coyote]

Okay that is the only two handed melee

[arctic talon]

And yeah katana is 2 handed

[opaque coyote]

And it's not heavy

[arctic talon]

Hammer

[opaque coyote]

We still don't have two handed heavy blades

[arctic talon]

Baseball bat

[opaque coyote]

Bladed

A baseball bat doesn't have blades

[wary fulcrum]

longer range, less speed would be nice

OGblivion had that

[arctic talon]

Uh yeah it does

I told my techie to put knives on mine

[opaque coyote]

As a modification yes

But not by default

[arctic talon]

lol

[opaque coyote]

Also if they can add two sex toys

As a melee weapon

They can add a god damned Claymore

[wary fulcrum]

problem is, Hiro Protagonist didn't use a claymore

[arctic talon]

Eh you got them in the tabletop

[opaque coyote]

Or at least an Odachi

[arctic talon]

Cdpr just didn’t put one in for reasons

lol

[opaque coyote]

An Odachi would actually be pretty cool

Even if it's more japanese

Or a halberd

A naginata

[arctic talon]

Tyger claws aren’t racist enough in 2077

lol

Then again tracks with RED

[opaque coyote]

Clearly when they went down on the racism tree.

They got locked to the weapons of their homeland

[arctic talon]

They were less racist in 2045 then 2020

Racism is bad for business

[limpid granite]

odachis arent represented nearly enough

[urban spire]

iirc the voodoo boys or whatever in the original 2020 were just rich white kids

[opaque coyote]

Probably practicality sake cause it'd be hard to get specifically Japanese members

They're still racist

[languid meadow]

when you're in a super multicultural city racism is bad for business unless you're arasaka

[opaque coyote]

But they at least allow more people to join

[arctic talon]

Voodoo boyz were rich white kids posing yeah, they got wiped out in 2077 lol

[languid meadow]

since you own everything

[opaque coyote]

I mean Arasaka has multi-ethnicity employment

[arctic talon]

They were active in 2045 but diminished

[opaque coyote]

So yeah

[arctic talon]

Also Arasaka isn’t racist

As in the company

[opaque coyote]

The owner definitely is

[arctic talon]

They’re nationalist

[opaque coyote]

But not the company itself

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/americandad-stansmith-gif-22981940

[arctic talon]

Saburo is racist as shit

But meh

He doesn’t control company policy

Ironically

[opaque coyote]

I think a lot of their members aren't Asian.

Even "fairly" high ranking ones

[arctic talon]

Yes

[limpid granite]

ok so voodoo boyz were straight up evil

[arctic talon]

The board isn’t all Japanese

[languid meadow]

Yes

[arctic talon]

Yeah the white kids version

The Haitian ones are also evil and insane

But less evil

[opaque coyote]

Even racism bows down to shareholders

[arctic talon]

And they’re split up

lol

[limpid granite]

i mean

[arctic talon]

The 2077 voodoo boys are fractured

[opaque coyote]

Finally, it got something that can stop it

[limpid granite]

they want to end the world

[arctic talon]

One branch does

The other 2 known branches don’t

[limpid granite]

other 2?

[opaque coyote]

I mean

Tbh wouldn't be a bad thing in Cyberpunk's ca-

[arctic talon]

Yes

[limpid granite]

wastnt here only one in phantom liberty

[spare osprey]

Saburo Arasaka was so deliciously evil that it makes me chuckle everytime remembering that the Emperor himself got taken out by... a light choking.

[arctic talon]

Theres 2 in phantom liberty

Ones working with barghast

The other isn’t

[opaque coyote]

Then again, knowing the luck of humanity in that universe. It probably would just cause another apocalypse

But it wouldn't end things

[limpid granite]

japanese emperor so evil that he lives out of pure spite

[arctic talon]

Tbh he was always overconfident

Yorinobu wanted to take down Arasaka from pretty early in his life lol

[opaque coyote]

I think the biggest plot twist is that Yorinobu is actually incredibly chill

[arctic talon]

He just realized being a terrorist wouldn’t work

Not even a plot twist if you know the lore before 2077 tbh

[limpid granite]

saburo was completely stuck in his fundamentalist ways of thinking

[opaque coyote]

True, but it was for me.

[spare osprey]

He had Redditor energy coming to Night City.
'Hrrnmn, I could-a bomb this city... hur-dur-hur...'

[limpid granite]

granted him being a vietnam vet didnt help those views

[opaque coyote]

Especially since they intentionally aimed it as if it's just another power struggle type thing

[arctic talon]

Tbh he could have lol

[spare osprey]

Mah boy.

[opaque coyote]

But no Yorinobu legitimately is the most heroic character in the story

Which is funny

[arctic talon]

It wouldn’t have gone well internationally but it wouldn’t have

Yorinobu is literally the hero

He is the greatest cyberpunk

[opaque coyote]

And on every other ending, V never finds out

[arctic talon]

Bro became the bomb inside the system

lol

After realizing chucking bombs doesn’t work

[opaque coyote]

Only when you literally side with Arasaka like a bitch ass

Do you actually find out (in 2077) that Yorinobu was the hero

And you just killed somebody that was legitimately trying to help not only Night City

But the world

[arctic talon]

Tbh it’s over 30 years worth of scheming

[spare osprey]

Also, also.
What the Helly actually happens to Hanako in the two non-Arasaka endings?

[arctic talon]

For him

[opaque coyote]

Drinking her sorrows in Embers ig

[arctic talon]

Yorinobu has her killed because she’s part of a certain clique in Arasaka

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

He doesn’t kill mitchiko

But he kills Hanako because she’s too big of a risk

[opaque coyote]

Yorinobu's story is legitimately interesting

[hollow lantern]

Imagine not picking DFTR

[arctic talon]

The only person in his family he truly loved was his mother

lol

[opaque coyote]

And he is unironically like if

Johnny wasn't a complete dumbass

[spare osprey]

Which makes absolute bingo-bongo zero sense.
He's shown to love his sister above anything.
At least, from what I've seen.

[arctic talon]

He does love her, but she also is the second most influential person in Arasaka aside from him

Mitchiko is in a distant third

[arctic talon]

Yorinobu was wiping out any opposition to his plan

Which was to destroy Arasaka from the inside

Financially

[opaque coyote]

It doesn't help that Hanako is completely loyalist to his father

[limpid granite]

actualy

[opaque coyote]

If Hanako wasn't, she probably would've been spared

[limpid granite]

yorinobu and hanako storm the tower in the phantom liberty ending

[arctic talon]

It cannot be overstated how much yorinobu hates Saburo

[arctic talon]

No

It’s hanako and Takemura

[opaque coyote]

To be fair

To have a guy like him as your dad.

I cannot imagine the abuse

[arctic talon]

Yorinobu is the one they’re trying to remove

[limpid granite]

hmmm

[arctic talon]

Tbf there’s a reason he peaced out and started a anti corporate terrorist organization/gang lol

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I always thought that it was just to bring it under his control.

Considering he never does anything that would be considered "destroying" it

[arctic talon]

Yorinobu may love most his family but he hates Saburo so much

[spare osprey]

I honestly assumed she ended herself after V solos Arasaka tower, ruining the Loyalists plans, and the radio in the ending was just a flat out lie.
From what I remember, he didn't even mean for her to be at the board meeting in the Arasaka ending.

[opaque coyote]

Like bad financial investments

[limpid granite]

now i wonder

we storm the tower and mikoshi in dont fear the reaper

[arctic talon]

Tbh there’s the other potential thing

Which is that alt kills hanako

As revenge

[limpid granite]

does this disrupt saburo taking over yorinobu's body

[hollow lantern]

Tf does Yori do if you storm the tower?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[arctic talon]

Nothing

You’re doing what he wants

[hollow lantern]

We take those type of moment

[arctic talon]

He just sits back and relaxes while sending security to keep the impression up

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, the only way it succeeds is if you help them

Without your assistance, Yorinobu basically won

[spare osprey]

Either way, we love Yori in this house.
The literal one redeemed corpo.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah in all honesty, the Security he sends is fucking weak compared to what it could've been

[arctic talon]

Some crazed mercenary storming the tower is perfect for Yorinobu as a reason to ditch night city and sell all of Arasaka’s damaged assets dirt cheap

[opaque coyote]

He's giving you a chance

[limpid granite]

so this means the only way yorinobu wins is if V storms the tower with either himself or any other faction

[arctic talon]

Yorinobu wins unless you assist hanako

[limpid granite]

yah in the ending arasaka closes the night city branch

[opaque coyote]

If you assist Hanako, then he loses.

Otherwise, he already won.

[arctic talon]

The 2 possibilities for hanako’s death is that she gets fried by alt as revenge

[arctic talon]

Or she gets killed by Yorinobu

[opaque coyote]

You were basically just unlucky tbh

[limpid granite]

well see how they do orion

[opaque coyote]

Part of a much bigger plan decades in the making

[arctic talon]

Also the third possibility mitchiko did it lol

[limpid granite]

it might legit be a timeskip to 2100

[arctic talon]

But mitchiko is the least murderous of the living Arasaka heirs

And the most well adjusted

[limpid granite]

because it would be one hell of a time implementing all of the carry over stuff like decisions

[arctic talon]

Not saying a lot granted lol

[opaque coyote]

Likely, Night Corp would be the villain.

There's lore scattered about that they basically brainwash their employees and have them basically possessed via AI

[mossy peak]

isnt yorinobus whole thing that he wants to bring down arasaka from the inside

[arctic talon]

Yes

Become the bomb

As he says lol

[opaque coyote]

With them being so obscured that the estimates of things like

Their employee count

[arctic talon]

Night Corp runs night city

[opaque coyote]

Is like

[mossy peak]

my goat

[arctic talon]

lol

[opaque coyote]

7k-120k

[arctic talon]

Night Corp are like the least evil corporation

Because they don’t treat people horrifically

Ignore the friend in your skull

[mossy peak]

i dont trust a corp run by an ai from beyond the blackwall

[opaque coyote]

Considering there's lore stating that they're brainwashing every employee and basically removing their autonomy.

Uhhh

[arctic talon]

That’s not who runs it

Tbf

Maybe

lol

[mossy peak]

mr blue eyes?

[arctic talon]

It’s presumably still Mr. night’s wife

So Mrs. Night

[limpid granite]

the fifth corporate war and the blackwall failing will be the main story i imagine

[arctic talon]

Mr blue eyes doesn’t run it

[opaque coyote]

We have no idea who runs it, how many employees there are, or even what they exactly do beyond manage Night City

[arctic talon]

Mr blue eyes is one of their employees

[limpid granite]

myers wants to start a new corporate war

[arctic talon]

Beyond blackwall AI also vary in friendliness

Some are hostile

[limpid granite]

so the attack on the space port is blamed on night corp

[arctic talon]

Some are friendly

Some don’t give a shit

[opaque coyote]

Either way I bet Night Corp will have a much bigger role in Orion

[arctic talon]

Ultimately night Corp had altruistic intentions originally

It’s unclear now though lol

But they still keep night city intact

Fix everything

[opaque coyote]

The path to hell is paved with good intentions

[arctic talon]

Run charity

lol

[spare osprey]

The Blackwall is so spooky to me, bruh.
The current Net and AI-Alt acting like the only remaining castle against Cyber-Hell is so cool.

[arctic talon]

Ultimately I choose to believe that Night Corp has humanities best intentions in mind

Despite working with beyond blackwall AIs

[opaque coyote]

Notably, Delamain is a Beyond Blackwall AI.

And the worst thing he did was...

Layoff people with the appropriate severance packages.

[arctic talon]

He gave them a year long notice 💀

lol

The blackwall is an AI btw lol

For anyone who doesn’t know

[mossy peak]

society if you could side with kurt and song against the nusa

[arctic talon]

It’s very friendly and nice

[spare osprey]

As much as profit margins encourage the greed of humans... yeah.
Ain't nobody else trying to bandage the Blackwall.

[opaque coyote]

Extremely generous even on modern standards tbh.

And in Cyberpunk, 90% of firings basically constitute death

[arctic talon]

Well that’s netwatch

Night Corp is using holes in the blackwall to make friends

With beyond blackwall AIs who hop over

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I hope AIs are tackled more

[mossy peak]

it wants to give you a hug :)

[arctic talon]

That one isn’t friendly

Also blame Militech smh

[storm jungle]

I love the reasonings people have for siding with Hansen not being an option and none of them really make any sense and come out like cope lol

[winter pine]

Legit if I could add one extra thing to Phantom Liberty it'd be this

[arctic talon]

The only reason he isn’t an option is bcs they didn’t want to make one

lol

[opaque coyote]

Erebus, just as much of a bastard as it's 40k version.

But at least I can use it to send people to hell

[limpid granite]

Yeah militech wanted to weaponize old military rogue ai's

[storm jungle]

Hansen is a warlord dipshit but have you considered we also hate the US government

[arctic talon]

Kurt is an awful person

[opaque coyote]

The closest thing to it anyways.

[arctic talon]

But you can side with the NUSA

So let me side with the psychopathic warlord lol

[winter pine]

Would love to ask CDPR if they named it Erebus after the best Word Bearer tbqh

[storm jungle]

the most humane/good option is killing Songbird and pulling out her plug

[spare osprey]

Golly.
Gotta actually play Phantom Liberty.
I manage to thug it out through the whole story on my PS4 on launch.
Love Cyberpunk so much.

[storm jungle]

you send her to the moon, Nightcorp gets her

you let her live, NUSA gets her

its all fucked

[arctic talon]

Handing songbird over to night Corp is bad idea

lol

She’s prolly getting her brain picked apart

By other AIs

[storm jungle]

One of the best DLCs ever made from CDRed, 100000% recommend it

[mossy peak]

the random tyger claw slumlord watching me stare at his goons and immediately send them to cyber hell

[mossy peak]

oh…

i thought that was a good ending

[storm jungle]

LOL

[arctic talon]

Remember nothing is stopping the blackwall from growing bored and leaving

lol

[storm jungle]

it is on the surface a "good ending"

[spare osprey]

Friggin' quickhacker neeerd.

[storm jungle]

then you notice Mr Blue Eyes being connected to it

[arctic talon]

It could one day decide “I’m tired of protecting humanity”

And just leave

But it doesn’t

[opaque coyote]

...

Clearly sending her to the moon is the good ending cause she could clearly keep the Blackwall intereste-

[arctic talon]

It is doing it out of the goodness of its heart

[storm jungle]

they deliberately placed him on spots near the spaceport implying Nightcorp will get songbird

[arctic talon]

lol

[winter pine]

I send her to the moon purely to put a knife in the NUSA and twist

[storm jungle]

yeah uh

[arctic talon]

He’s watching your entire rampage

[storm jungle]

that will only doom us more

[opaque coyote]

And also free data meals

[arctic talon]

It’s so fucking creepy

You can only hope Mr blue eyes is working for the AIs or is an AI who isn’t evil

lol

Same with night Corp

Likelihood of that is

Ehhhhh

[mossy peak]

man now i need to replay cp

and i’m behind on my classes as it is

[opaque coyote]

So

One is an ending that's uncertain at best

And the other is basically bad.

[storm jungle]

By the end you realise what "phantom liberty" really means

[opaque coyote]

Real

[opaque coyote]

And the other is killing Songbird

[mossy peak]

[spare osprey]

Spring Break, babyyy!

[arctic talon]

Look the funniest option is that Mr. Blue Eyes is a friendly AI

[spare osprey]

And I'm... stuck doing three 12's of work.

[winter pine]

The last Gary the Prophet quest implies Night Corp knows something bad with the Black Wall is happening in the nearish future

[arctic talon]

and just chooses to be ominous and creepy

[limpid granite]

You guys are forgetting something extremely important

[arctic talon]

if the black wall collapses the AIs are going to be at war with each other and humanity lol

the blackwall being up is good for both sides

[limpid granite]

Mr blue eyes was the reason songbird was even able to go to the crystal palace

He aranged for that flight

[arctic talon]

not the crystal palace

the moon

[limpid granite]

Yah

[mossy peak]

[arctic talon]

crystal palace is in orbit of earth

and run by the EU

[spare osprey]

Finna hold up in one of the jabillion bunkers in the desert.
Keep my 'ganic ass awaaay from that shit.

[mossy peak]

i don’t believe that for a second that the eu are the ones in control

[limpid granite]

Also orion will 100% feature the moon

[arctic talon]

the crystal palace is explictly an EU governemnt run space station lol

so it is the EU in control

[mossy peak]

did you see how easily arasaka wiped out their space board in the corpo prelude

[arctic talon]

the moon is open territory

[limpid granite]

Mars is also colonized in cybepunk

[arctic talon]

Look the split between AI's who hate humanity, AI's who like humanity and AI's who don't give a shit is like
20/20/60

[arctic talon]

tbh I hope not lol

there's nothing interesting on it

imo

[opaque coyote]

So you can either

Gamble and pray that Blue Eyes gives Songbird a nice cup of hot cocoa and a blanket.

Give her to the NUSA. Because giving someone to the government always goes well, especially in Cyberpunk!

Or end her misery, but that would also conclude her life as a story of mostly suffering and nothing else

Clearly all uplifting endings

[arctic talon]

No happy endings™

[winter pine]

There could be something fun with the two cities but they've got like 100,000 people at absolute most between them

[mossy peak]

i don’t get how ais can exist beyond the blackwall and be untouchable, don’t they still need server networks somewhere in realspace

[arctic talon]

they do

and they have those

a bunch of old military hardware lost

old systems

bombed out ruins

ect.

Hong Kong is an AI ghost city inhabitated by friendly AIs

[opaque coyote]

Would be interesting as a DLC ngl

[arctic talon]

there's nothing alive in it after the bio plagues so the human friendly Ai's decided to move in

not all of them

[mossy peak]

or you can let myers splatter on the dogtown mall and go back to your adventure with johnny

[winter pine]

I think Busan in Korea is also sorta this too?

[arctic talon]

but there's a ton of human engram AIs

yeah Busan got bio plagued as well

but the lights are still on

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but I like using the gun and hacks that sends people to the Blackwall

So

[arctic talon]

as are the factories

[storm jungle]

you need to remember the Blackwall is a plastic bag with holes applied to an entire window that the AIs can get through

its not a perfect barrier

[arctic talon]

the government still gets shipments from it

so its highly likely Busan is also home to friendly/neutral AIs

Hong Kong is the only explictly full of friendly AI's dead city

still a horrifying place to be in

considering its all dead people and AIs

but yknow

could be worse

could be filled with AI's who want to dissect your brain for information and destroy humanity

[opaque coyote]

Just had a disturbing where the AIs would puppet dead people with a lot of cyberware on them

[arctic talon]

they do that

lol

[opaque coyote]

Awesome

[arctic talon]

they can do that

[mossy peak]

i’m surprised we don’t see anything like that in the game

[opaque coyote]

I assumed they would do that to like

Maintain the servers

[limpid granite]

rogue ais are extremely powerful

[mossy peak]

i guess robots are more useful

[opaque coyote]

Maybe clean up some of the less useful dead bodies

[limpid granite]

the shit you see songbird do is because of rogue ais

[arctic talon]

No point in a meat suit when you have a machine one

[opaque coyote]

Build actual robot bodies

Etc.

Since some robots are limited on things

[arctic talon]

Rogue AIs even the friendly ones excluding engrams who haven't evolved

[opaque coyote]

And some are stationary

[arctic talon]

are still horrifying data constructs

lol

[opaque coyote]

Delamain basically accidentally having like 10 children

[arctic talon]

look

[opaque coyote]

AI mpreg

[arctic talon]

fusing them into him and making him ascend is a good idea

[opaque coyote]

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's what I usually do

I don't wanna kill em all

But I also like my man Delamain

Bro is the one that saved my ahh

Can't hate him even if he's a rogue AI

Also, Excelsior is a way better name than Delamain Jr.

[arctic talon]

also I do like how Delimain hid as a non sentient AI core by a company called Alte Weltordnung

which literally translates to "old world order"

bro was not subtle

still worked though LOL

[mossy peak]

i zeroed him in my first playthrough because i didnt have the tech requirements to merge :(

[opaque coyote]

I mean Excelsior itself means upward or higher. As a motto to strive for excellence.

And it's his top package to sell

So

He just likes obvious references

[arctic talon]

Look all I'm saying if I was a beyond blackwall AI who snuck past the blackwall and was trying to people watch in a new job I would not fucking call the shell corporation I'm hidden as a product of "Old World Order"

[opaque coyote]

Maybe that's why he chose that.

It's like the equivalent of

"It's so stupid, no AI would ever use that to hide themselves'

[arctic talon]

tbf he also warned the people who bought him

about his true nature lol

of how he could "learn and adapt"

[mossy peak]

i get its ai or something but theres no way excelsior should have stood a chance against smasher in konpeki plaza

[opaque coyote]

Bro was really honest

He was chill from the start tbh

[arctic talon]

the cab is made out of some weird shit lol

but realistically yeah

[opaque coyote]

I mean

If that ain't an advertisement

Idk what is

[arctic talon]

survived adam smasher shooting at it

tbh its also likely smasher was fucking around

and just got told by Yorinobu to make it look like he was trying as hard as possible

[opaque coyote]

I guess that's the reason why Combat Cabb got outcompeted in the sector.

[mossy peak]

i like how he just shoots at it, instead of using one of his 50 different missile launchers

[opaque coyote]

It was definitely just him being bored

[arctic talon]

"cause as much property damage as possible, try to look like you're trying to catch them but I don't really give a shit if you do or not"

[limpid granite]

I genuinely would not be surprised if adam smasher turns up in orion

[opaque coyote]

Also honestly.

I want Adam to return.

But, as a twist,

In his Elvis Presley body

[opaque coyote]

Since he had a body that basically looks like Elvis Presley but blonde

[arctic talon]

we didn't destroy his biopod in 2077

just saying lol

[mossy peak]

adam smasher replica piloted by a rogue ai

[arctic talon]

nah

we don't kill him

even if you shoot him in the head

his bio pod isn't in it

[limpid granite]

Wasnt his brain inside of the body?

[arctic talon]

yeah

but his body doesn't fucking explode

its on fire

[opaque coyote]

Also this is how he looked in 2020

[arctic talon]

but shaitan's biopod survived arasaka tower blowing up

[solid horizon]

I wonder

[arctic talon]

which was a fucking nuke

so just saying

[mossy peak]

the one sequence in metal gear rising where you just fight the main bosses again

[arctic talon]

pretty likely Smasher's biopod was fine with him catching on fire and being cooked a bit

[mossy peak]

whats a biopod

[opaque coyote]

Either way, he is gonna remember that for the rest of his life.

[solid horizon]

Do traitor guards aligned to chaos undivided suffer from specific mutations ?

[opaque coyote]

Which is more satisfying than just killing him tbh

[arctic talon]

full body conversions have no organs aside from an extremely durable "pod" which contains the brain, some other organs and such and thats it

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

this is the Biopod

[opaque coyote]

He will know on that day that he was beaten

[spare osprey]

CP:R's The Thing. The Borg-guy.

[storm jungle]

theres no "basis" default state with chaos mutations

they get what the writers want them to get

[arctic talon]

aka the actual only important thing for a Fullborgs survival

if you do not destroy a biopod

[solid horizon]

Thank you very helpful

[storm jungle]

Chaos Undivided is like a wild class of stuff

[arctic talon]

the fullborg will live

[storm jungle]

So basically go with what you think is cool

and like uhhh

idk make it grey/black-ish flesh

lol

[solid horizon]

Say for example iron warriors have renegades

[limpid granite]

so basically v shooting smasher did fuckall

[solid horizon]

Would they mutate or remain the same ?

[arctic talon]

Yeah V shooting smasher did fuck all

[storm jungle]

Again depends on the Warp exposure

[arctic talon]

Smasher couldn't even crush shaitan's biopod

[storm jungle]

if its like heavy then yeah they'd mutate heavily

[arctic talon]

when he was fighting Shaitan

[storm jungle]

if its limited its minor shit they can cut off

which is what the IW already do

[arctic talon]

shaitan literally got reduced to a headless limbless mess

and got tossed to the side

and then survived arsaka tower being nuked

and Shaitan is a stealth focused Fullborg

[solid horizon]

It would be funny if IW mutations made their their flesh turn metallic

[arctic talon]

so I think Smasher's biopod surviving is like all but 100%

[solid horizon]

Tetsuo the iron man style

[storm jungle]

We DO have an example of that

with this one metal as fuck official art from 9th edition i think

[solid horizon]

Oh ?

[storm jungle]

Yeha hold on, its fucking peak

[mossy peak]

wrong chat, ask in #cyberpunk-lore

[limpid granite]

imagine he shows up in a fucking militech chimera or the copernicus

[solid horizon]

Well we're talking IW so yeah it's more or less cyberpunk

[arctic talon]

here's an example btw of a fullborg of a more human variety

She's in a gemini but she's got no organs lol

[storm jungle]

🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥

[arctic talon]

well she probably has a midnight lady

[storm jungle]

LET LEWIS JONES COOK

[arctic talon]

but there's no actual human organs left

[solid horizon]

Epic

[arctic talon]

aside from inside the biopod

[arctic talon]

which is either in her head or chest

[solid horizon]

So basically warp exposed IW guards

[spare osprey]

Are Exotics still a thing in Cyberpunk in 2077?
The Inquisitors?

[opaque coyote]

Here is the version used in Johnny's "Flashback"

Honestly I actually quite like it.

It also still resembles the original 2020 version somewhat

[solid horizon]

Could turn into twisted skits equivalents ?

[arctic talon]

exotics yes
inqusitors we don't know

I like to imagine they're still around

[solid horizon]

Im one hundred percent spitting bullshit

[arctic talon]

but a lot of the gangs in 2045 and 2020 are not mentioned in 2077 at all due to game limitations lol

[spare osprey]

-# Gimme my fleshy BOOOYS--

[solid horizon]

Because I know dark skitarii already suffer from flesh mutations

[arctic talon]

there's a random tag by the Piranha's in 2077

which is hilarious

I wonder if Corpse Reviver is still alive

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically

[arctic talon]

Or if she died lol

[storm jungle]

IW are absolutely the type to use fodder cyborg soldiers

[mossy peak]

i’d expect johnny to remember smasher as less cool than he is purely out of spite and delusion

[opaque coyote]

Heavily disappointed that we don't have Exotics.

A) The Animals would've been cool if they were truly animals.

B) Probably a fucking furry for wanting this but it would've been cool as cosmetic options

[spare osprey]

I WOULDA LOVED TO FIGHT THE PITT GUY--

[arctic talon]

No Trauma team fullborgs in 2077

literally 1984

[opaque coyote]

Actually biomods in general would've been great

[arctic talon]

well

you do have some biomods

but they're under cyberware still

lol

[solid horizon]

Epic, my homebrew makes sense now

[sacred ginkgo]

COATS OVER FULL ARMOR
RAHHHHHH

[arctic talon]

ultimately its a case of gameplay limitations

[limpid granite]

ok so shaitan survived 2 cyberpsychosis attacks

[arctic talon]

gotta look stylish for when you're operating on someone

[limpid granite]

and hes still alive in japan

[winter pine]

CDPR didn't add nearly enough of the wacky stuff from 2020 or RED which was a shame

[solid horizon]

It has both dark skitarii and renegade arbitrators turned into cyborgs through mutations

[limpid granite]

you dont understand trauma team doctor the cyborg having boobs is essential

[sacred ginkgo]

Gotta have something to retain the mid op bloodstains

[lament shoal]

[arctic talon]

tbf she probably wanted it lol

[spare osprey]

Gimme back my 1990's wild catgirl asthetic.
They were so silly.

[sacred ginkgo]

Surprised it only has 2 arms though

[arctic talon]

Fullborg bodies tend to have something humanizing about it

more arms cause a ton of humanity loss

[sacred ginkgo]

You'd think a doctor would want more

[arctic talon]

btw

more arms are one of the most harmful things to humanity lol

as a stat

[mossy peak]

u can survive that?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[limpid granite]

this is what shaitan is currently doing

fucking shit up in japan

[sacred ginkgo]

Damn

Sad

[arctic talon]

good for him

[sacred ginkgo]

Cause I would be all over that

[arctic talon]

The militech spyder allows for 8 extra arms though

as long as you're okay with your brain going a little nuts

[mossy peak]

i thought the quest line in the game where you “rescue” cyber psychos you were just shipping them off to be experimented on

[sacred ginkgo]

4 is enough

[arctic talon]

this ones only got 4

but you can get up to 8 in total

[limpid granite]

the wiki article says that he was critically wounded against adam smasher and his subsequent hatred for arasaka caused him to turn cyberpsycho and black out

he woke on a cargo ship with extremely high tech militech gear and experimental gear

[arctic talon]

unsurprising lol

[limpid granite]

rebuild his body with fancy tech like chameleon

[opaque coyote]

I mean he paints Smasher as seeing him as a worthy adversary. Saying shit like "Told you, Johnny boy. Told you I'd end you someday."

When in fact, he literally got instantly killed by Smasher

And he probably doesn't even remember Johnny

[limpid granite]

he found a crate containing an Internal Linear Frame Ω labeled as Nuckelavee, though its installation took Shaitan over the edge, making him lose his consciousness again. The next time he remembered waking up, Shaitan found himself wrapped in a tarp while covered in rust and seawater, but for a moment, the cyberpsychosis he felt was comfortable. It was frightening, but at the same time he felt emotionally numb, as if a pain editor had been turned on for his soul. Nevertheless, Shaitan knew if he kept pushing he would fully lose himself, so he built a new faceplate from what remained of the Eclipse FBC to center his mind. While doing so, he remembered the promise he did to his mother's memory, the vow to become whatever it took to achieve his revenge, even if he had to become an evil spirit, a Shaitan. This time, however, he renewed his vow to gain a new purity of purpose and focus on the future.

wall of text

[mossy peak]

black rage

[limpid granite]

Over the following years, Shaitan spent his time doing meditation and training in martial arts. He had lost to Adam Smasher due to his lack of close-quarter combat prowess, but thanks to the interactive training braindances in the cargo hold, he was able to learn all types of martial art styles. All this made Shaitan realize that all arts were connected; body, mind, spirit and chrome were all equal contributors, and he finally considered himself ready to fight once more.

he finds a nomad ship after a few years and sells all of the tech onboard for passage to japan and resources

the money from that transaction was enough to create several safehouses and he vows to destroy arasaka from within from where saburo least expects it

[mossy peak]

i thought ships weren’t a thing anymore thanks to arasakas self replicating mines

[arctic talon]

They are

just very rare

[limpid granite]

he was stranded in a minefield

[arctic talon]

^

the main people who uses ships are nomads

[opaque coyote]

I think you can actually tell when actually Johnny dies. It's the part where Adam Smasher suddenly drops down. It suddenly giltches and Johnny is on the roof with no explanation

[limpid granite]

Following an unspecified amount of time, Shaitan awoke on an autonomous cargo ship in the Pacific Ocean. The vessel, which had been stranded after self-replicating mines had destroyed its rudder

[arctic talon]

Metacorp loves their boats

[opaque coyote]

That's definitely the part where Johnny got gored instantly

[arctic talon]

and flying ones

metacorp are nomads don't ask why they're a corp

fucking weirdos

[limpid granite]

actualy i believe johnny was killed when adam smasher drops down from the balcony

[spare osprey]

Wonder how Vegas is holding up in 2077.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, that's the scene I'm talking about

Adam jumps down

Johnny shoot him

and then it suddenly giltches

and Johnny is on the roof

[arctic talon]

no lore on it aside from nevada

[limpid granite]

imagine if johnny found out that it was a militech job

[arctic talon]

tbf Johnny's whole memories are wrong anyways

he knew it was a militech job

why do you think I call him a fucking sellout

lol

[opaque coyote]

That's definitely when Johnny "remembers" when he died. But he decided to uh

[limpid granite]

dudes entire tirade and morals were nothing lmao

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

ignore that

[arctic talon]

he's a fucking sellout

like I said

he sided with the corp that got his arm blown off to help nuke a corp lol

[limpid granite]

he legit self inserts himself over morgan blackhand

[mossy peak]

didn’t he delude himself into thinking it was his operation

[opaque coyote]

Tbf makes sense. Gotta get the resources to nuke a corp.

[arctic talon]

yes

[limpid granite]

morgan blackhand also surfed smasher down from the tower

[arctic talon]

Morgan blackhand is hilarious

[opaque coyote]

Legitmately what would be like an 80's action hero protagonist

[mossy peak]

what about the scene with saburo after the nuke goes off

[opaque coyote]

It kinda makes the world darker

Considering despite him literally being such a badass

[arctic talon]

It’s fake, he wasn’t alive then

[opaque coyote]

It's still shitty

It's still terrible

[limpid granite]

They did scrape his mind into a construct

[arctic talon]

Johnny canonically got blown in half then soulkilled by Spider Murphy

[opaque coyote]

Not even an action hero can save Night City

[limpid granite]

But johny is an extremely unreliable narrator

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[mossy peak]

can’t trust anything from this guy

[arctic talon]

All of Johnny’s memories are heavily embellished or fake

It’s hilarious

Seeing them

[spare osprey]

Johnny was a bullshitter since he was shat out.
Still love the stupid engram.

[arctic talon]

Poor Johnny though

He went out like a champ

Even if it was getting blown in half by smasher

And then soul killed by spider Murphy because alt told her to do it

lol

[limpid granite]

Adam smasher didnt even know who johnny was

[arctic talon]

He might have known

[limpid granite]

A literal ant compared to blackhand

[opaque coyote]

This is why I kinda want Rebecca as an engram. But one similar to Jackie Welles.

Incomplete and basically suffering. Unknowing if it's even fully still her.

You wanted her back after all.

[arctic talon]

“The fucking samurai dude?”

[limpid granite]

He just says who when you mention johnny to him

[arctic talon]

Yeah well it’s been 54 years

lol

I’m referring to the night where Johnny died

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Adam canonically likes Death Metal so he might only know him from his songs.

[spare osprey]

Missing Becca day... 500 or something.

[arctic talon]

“Isn’t that dude the fucking samurai guy”

[opaque coyote]

Would've been fucking funny if Adam for a second was like

"Damn, I liked your songs."

BLAM

[storm jungle]

I love how when johnny as V says that shit to Smasher

and hes like

"What the FUCK are you talking about"

LMAO

[arctic talon]

It’s so funny

[opaque coyote]

Also Morgan Blackhand apparently likes Jazz

[daring creek]

Obtaining shaurma

Is good day

Woke up late as fuck though

[arctic talon]

Actual canon death for Johnny

It was a bit more heroic

But just as futile

lol

[daring creek]

Nooo action hero badass died :(

[arctic talon]

Only thing he had that could penetrate smasher without dedicated AP rounds was the Malorian lol

[mossy peak]

gojo’d

[limpid granite]

Smasher does have a fat bone to pick with blackhand tho

[opaque coyote]

tbf probably still better than most deaths against smasher

most of them would probably be pissing themselves in terror

[mossy peak]

it wouldn’t shock me if he did piss himself and just suppressed the memory

[storm jungle]

hes got a boner to pick with everyone

I mean bone

[opaque coyote]

tbf even if he was, I doubt he would remember considering he would die like two seconds later

adrenaline and all that

[spare osprey]

He's got a boner to pick with everyone.

[storm jungle]

🦴

[opaque coyote]

"YOU LOOK LIKE A CUT OF FUCKABLE MEAT."

[storm jungle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/freddy-fazbear-thrust-is-a-must

[limpid granite]

yeah no

[daring creek]

Terrifying

[daring creek]

Bruh

[limpid granite]

blackhand surfed smasher down the tower

[storm jungle]

open up butterbiscuit

[daring creek]

Kill dilara

[opaque coyote]

seriously though

whoever is Smasher's VA?

Props to him

genuinely

[limpid granite]

its real personal with him lmao

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786208719200583710/1482427627166765178/Who_is_Darktide_s_Rannick_V1.gif

[arctic talon]

Here’s the actual excerpt of how Johnny died

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

HOLY SHIT

okay so that comic is not even exaggerating

[arctic talon]

No lol

[storm jungle]

bro got killed like a fucking half life NPC

[spare osprey]

Oh yeah, not one bit.

[daring creek]

Thats so hard

Christ

[opaque coyote]

Honestly kind of a cool way to die

[spare osprey]

Engram Johnny is so full of shit it makes a septic tank blush.

[daring creek]

I feel like he shot only once

[arctic talon]

Tbf he did save spider Murphy’s life lol

[opaque coyote]

But also kinda funny

[arctic talon]

But still

[daring creek]

And Johnny just fucking died

[storm jungle]

"it only takes a second"

[spare osprey]

Going up against a Borg with just... a Silver arm ain't gonna go so well.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf judging by the description, Smasher did stand there for a second confused

[daring creek]

Oh

[arctic talon]

Well Johnny had more cyberware then that

[daring creek]

Thats miserable

[opaque coyote]

So he probably got more shots off just by the sheer audacity

[limpid granite]

smasher legit sawed him inhalf with his arm shotgun

nothing else

even shaitan put up more of a fight

[opaque coyote]

Definitely got killed in a second once Smasher got over his split second shock though

[daring creek]

"Oh, fuckin weirdo."

[arctic talon]

Tbf shaitan was a full Borg already

Would be absurd if he didn’t put up more of one

[spare osprey]

"WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU??"

[opaque coyote]

Johnny was basically mostly human

In comparison to like most of his crew

He had other cyberware liek you said

but he was mostly flesh

[arctic talon]

Not really

Rogue was about as fleshy as him

lol

[opaque coyote]

oh shit fr

damn

nvm then

lol

lma-

[limpid granite]

rogue and murphy couldve both been shot dead the second they walked into the tower

[opaque coyote]

also wasn't she literally support though

[arctic talon]

here's his chrome list lol

[paper haven]

Why did the game change Johnny's death? That was way funnier.

[arctic talon]

to drive home how much of a delusional ego maniac he is

[opaque coyote]

A) To characterize Johnny

He is a delusional maniac who thinks he's hot shit

B) To have a short fun gameplay sequence, wouldn't be fun if you got instantly gored

[limpid granite]

johnny's stats?

[paper haven]

The anarchist that nuked a city is a delusional ego maniac?

Say it isn't so

[arctic talon]

his statblock from Firestorm shockwave yeah

[opaque coyote]

C) Probably to redesign 2020 Adam since he looks like this in the guides

[arctic talon]

tbf he didn't plant the nuke lol

he was just in on the plan to nuke Saka tower

[paper haven]

Semantics. He helped plant it.

[arctic talon]

yeah basicially

[paper haven]

He looks like the Thing

I love it

[opaque coyote]

yeah they definitely just wanted an excuse to make a redesign of it

[limpid granite]

here are his 2077 stats

[spare osprey]

Y'know this whole time y'all were talking about Shaitan, my brain had to physically fight to not read it as Chiitan.
.-.

[paper haven]

Rip

[limpid granite]

your basically fighting the cyborg version of god

[arctic talon]

I like to imagine this is smasher

still

in the RED rules for FBCs

lol

[spare osprey]

This fuckass Borg that I hate...

[paper haven]

I wish the level where you played as johnny ended with you getting instantly gored by Adam.

[limpid granite]

adam smasher is also basically a techpriest

he despises flesh

[paper haven]

You can have everything else be the same

[arctic talon]

tbf a lot of people in 2077 hate their meat

lol

[paper haven]

Yeah but isn't Adam Smasher a special case?

[limpid granite]

most gruesome advertisement ingame

[limpid granite]

high functioning cyberpsycho

[daring creek]

Bottom dysphoria...

[arctic talon]

Adam is a high functioning psychopath turned high functioning cyberpsycho

[daring creek]

Oh fuck right

[paper haven]

Like, he can have all those changes without going completely insane

[arctic talon]

yes

because he's already completely fucking insane

[limpid granite]

no joke

[daring creek]

What physicial augments would yall get

[arctic talon]

cyberpsychosis is just actual psychosis

[limpid granite]

smasher could operate an 8 armed spider body

[paper haven]

Being a murderous psychopath is different from having a psychotic break from reality

[arctic talon]

Just that cyberware exacerbates it

[limpid granite]

his empathy is N/A

[paper haven]

As far as I can tell, he's fully conscious and aware of his actions and their effects

[arctic talon]

Yes but Smasher doesn't feel stress from killing people and such

he enjoys killing people

he enjoys violence

[limpid granite]

he literally doesnt have any humanity or empathy points at all

[arctic talon]

cyber psychos go nuts due to a variety of stressors + cyberware

[mossy peak]

died like an ultrakill filth

[arctic talon]

Smasher has no empathy or morality

so the big stressors aren't present

[spare osprey]

The greatest transition augs that ever existed.

[plush mason]

yeah when the psyco has skin tougher than battle tank armor and cannons in his arms things get bad quick

[arctic talon]

^

if you stop feeling stuff

if your arm opens up into a knife

ect.

that stuff makes you more and more detached

[mossy peak]

fr

[paper haven]

I like the part where you can tell Smasher that Johnny silverhand sends his regards and he's mostly just confused

[arctic talon]

Smasher was already detached from himself

he literally didn't care he got blown up by a rocket while he was mostly meat

aside from the fact he'd no longer be able to fucking kill people

lol

[mossy peak]

smashers honest reaction

[limpid granite]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cyberpunk-edgerunners-adam-smasher

[limpid granite]

he looked like robocop lmao

actual pieces of him left

that were stuffed into a backpack

[paper haven]

No legs means no more killing, sorry Smasher get in the wheelchair

[plush mason]

i do wish cyberpunk had more non human looking cyberware

like MGSR

[limpid granite]

oh theyre out there

[mossy peak]

smasher with a heavy armored core tank base

but minature

[limpid granite]

you have full body conversions to become a werewolf

you have vampires

[paper haven]

I think the more you deviate from the human form the worse the accompanying cyberpsychosis becomes

[arctic talon]

Once inside his new chromed body, Adam Smasher realized that was the best decision he had ever made. After returning to the streets of NYC, with Arasaka allowing him time for freelancing, Adam used his new power to spill the blood of anyone that dared to cross his path, including boosterpunks, powered-armor soldiers, corporate hitmen, heavy-duty armed vehicles, dangerous cyberpets, or even children.

[arctic talon]

there is

its just not in 2077 lol

[plush mason]

yeah, maybe if 2077 gets a sequel they will include it

[limpid granite]

2077 is very tame considering the actual lore

the most outlandish is bozo

[paper haven]

One of these things is not like the others

[arctic talon]

tbf he shot up a fucking mall lol

once

[paper haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/a-child-vine

[arctic talon]

wait

If he had been in his meat body, Adam would have needed a minigun to clear the way to pursue his objective. With his metal body, however, weapons as powerful as a minigun were a treat for him, as he could incorporate them into his frame, allowing Smasher to carry heavy weaponry with ease while feeling almost no recoil whatsoever. On the other hand, the meat merc that was escaping could only carry "small weapons," as anything bigger would turn their skeleton to kibble, in Smasher's opinion. Adam was able to catch up to her, though she hid amidst the mallplex crowd. Smasher swept over the multitude with his Tsunami Helix arm-gatling shotgun. ```

[sacred ginkgo]

Oh gods now I'm imagining him punting a child through the 100th floor window of arasaka tower

From the ground

[arctic talon]

merc made the fatal mistake of assuming smasher had something called empathy 💀

[mossy peak]

idf smasher

[arctic talon]

LOL

[daring creek]

which is??

[opaque coyote]

"Oh boy, she hid in a crowd!"

WHIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

BRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[arctic talon]

you can get your sex organs replaced without any issue in cyberpunk

along with everything else and hormone therapy

pretty easily lol

[opaque coyote]

I think you can basically completely transition to the point where you're

basically indistinguishable from your old self

[daring creek]

ah shit 💀

[daring creek]

sick. but I feel like thats breeding grounds for like

a terrible beauty standard

[arctic talon]

it is

[opaque coyote]

Oh there is

[arctic talon]

lol

[opaque coyote]

Jig jig street moment

[arctic talon]

tbf those are prostitutes

[vagrant fox]

That's really funny

[opaque coyote]

Yeah if you couldn't tell, sexual exploitation is such a problem.

Some people literally had to create a gang just to prevent it.

[arctic talon]

Well

no

[sacred ginkgo]

Isn't it just all covered under a 0 humanity cost Bodysculpting

[daring creek]

be a woman
have a belly
MORBIDLY OBESE IN ASIA

[arctic talon]

the Mox are also exploting people lol

they're a gang of pimps

[opaque coyote]

True. But better than the others

Which is

arguably the worst part

[arctic talon]

they're just less awful then the tyger claws

which isn't saying a lot

[opaque coyote]

They're the only option if you want to not be constantly SA'd.

[arctic talon]

yeah

[spare osprey]

I dunno, man.
I'm sure Cyberpunk's got flawless woman-making tech.

[arctic talon]

you can work for the tygerclaws as well for that

[opaque coyote]

I said not

[daring creek]

I tremble at cyberpunks defintion of a woman

[arctic talon]

they'll treat you like shit though

[opaque coyote]

oh

[arctic talon]

Yeah they don't, aside from Woodman lol

who isn't an actual Tygerclaw

[opaque coyote]

titties

[arctic talon]

just under their protection

[opaque coyote]

female body shape

basically the same as ours

[arctic talon]

who they also wanted to remove

[opaque coyote]

A beautiful woman would be varied though

[arctic talon]

because the tygerclaws are a bunch of psychos lol

[limpid granite]

Do they even operate in japan itself?

[arctic talon]

no

the Tygerclaws are Japanese/Chinese/Korean American as of RED and 2077

[spare osprey]

I wouldn't wanna be a gold-plated lady, dawg.

[arctic talon]

they started as a guardian gang

and got wildly out of control

by the 2020's

[opaque coyote]

Since I can imagine Cyberpunk would have varied standards

[limpid granite]

Bunch if larpers lmao

[arctic talon]

the tygerclaws are basicially the big tent east asian gang

yes they are Larpers lol

[sacred ginkgo]

How much is 500 fun bucks in cyberpunk

[arctic talon]

most of them have never been to their home country

[opaque coyote]

Don't worry, you can also be silver, purple, etc.

[opaque coyote]

Literally weeaboos

[storm jungle]

gaijin moment

[arctic talon]

2 dollars to 1 eddies

as of RED

as in USD

[sacred ginkgo]

Cool

[opaque coyote]

Except they actually try to do their stuff

[sacred ginkgo]

so 1000 doubloons for transition surgery