40k-lore-chat

[umbral orbit]

just for the militarum perspective

[urban spire]

gaunt's about war, but it's mostly about the downtime, the actual combat you can take it or leave it

[rocky gale]

Outgunned and Above & Beyond are about a Propaganda guy tasked with making an Ace Pilot look good on screen for Propaganda films, the twist being she's a complete asshole and has no desire to be famous.

[vagrant fox]

Better than Lesk

[urban spire]

and the characters are very good

[cerulean trellis]

hm... eisenhorn or ghaunts first?

[rocky gale]

Plus when you get to know her she never stops becoming an asshole, but ||the reason she's an asshole becomes understandable||

[urban spire]

gaunt is chronologically first but you can do whatever

wait is it?

i don't actually remember now that i think about it

[heady rivet]

Aeronautica is always criminally underrated because planes are so cool

[urban spire]

doesn't gaunt reference writings by eisenhorn sometimes?

[wary fulcrum]

Ravenor

[urban spire]

i'm not looking it up anyway and it's not important

yeah him

[young pecan]

Are the two related at all?

[rocky gale]

and it focuses on the cool parts of Aeronautica rather than technical jargon and flaff

[urban spire]

not really

[storm jungle]

Big Dakka. Brooks is big on representation/queer stuff in his novels so its one of revelations we got out of it where male drukhari wyches can just go trans and become a woman to just attain the rank of a Succubus with enough effort

[young pecan]

Eisenhorn was my first 40k book and it did a great job with it, but I've never read gaunt's so there's that

[storm jungle]

Eisenhorn. Gaunt is a terrible intro, nothing but Guard slop.

[languid meadow]

ooo you want to read necron novels which have a heavy emphasis on identity and on how to deal with it

https://tenor.com/view/mettaton-undertale-deltarune-mtt-gif-13745976834435168388

[rocky gale]

Brothers of the Snake was my first 40k book, it was good but I wouldn't recommend starting there.

[urban spire]

it's good slop dilara

[young pecan]

Better than marine slop at least

[languid meadow]

Read ciaphas cain (No I am NOT biased) it's humor and guard slop

[storm jungle]

I love how some people were going "No the necron diasporex and the trans necron character are not queer representation stuff, yall are reaching"

then the author came out and was like

"No it is lmao"

[languid meadow]

My undead goats

[young pecan]

One of my favorite parts of Eisenhorn was (minor spoiler) ||When an astartes screamed and ran face first into multiple enemies' gunfire, then ate shit immediately||
What a perfect depiction

[umbral orbit]

perfect space marine representation

i am going to immediately buy eisenhorn now

[young pecan]

It's crazy because he also did that for no reason when there was already a better established plan IIRC

[urban spire]

anyway yeah thinking about it eisenhorn is the best way to get into 40k, the reason being: it's how i got into 40k

dark heresy aside

[young pecan]

Genuinely perfect astartes rep

[umbral orbit]

if i read any of these they will probably make me very sad and existential so i dont think i will start with these

but they sound cool

[storm jungle]

Twice is VERY BAD if you want a "normal" book

its amazingly written but fucking depressing

[languid meadow]

true!

but we only have

FOUR FUCKING BOOKS!

[storm jungle]

YEP

also im fucking

TIRED

[umbral orbit]

it cant be that sad

[storm jungle]

OF INFINITE AND DIVINE

[umbral orbit]

i've read dune

[storm jungle]

SICK OF IT

[young pecan]

Waiter!! More marine media!!!

[urban spire]

eisenhorn and ravenor give you such a broad sense of the imperium when it's NOT at war, it's wonderful

[umbral orbit]

marineslop

[languid meadow]

I love infinite and the divine but I recommend you read it AFTER twice dead king for necron novels

[wary fulcrum]

GW need more of it

[lament shoal]

You WILL hear about the gay necrons and you WILL like it

[umbral orbit]

this is exactly what i want

[urban spire]

i mean, it's always at war obviously, but i mean when a war isn't actively happening on top of the characters

[umbral orbit]

i want a very in depth narrative into the crumbling imperium

[young pecan]

A guy collapsing dead at his hive Administratum desk and no one batting an eye

[languid meadow]

I mean isn't uh

[umbral orbit]

it's society, it's people, it's rotting bureaucracy, it's internal atrocities

[young pecan]

Someone replacing his job and getting in his seat while the body is still there 15 minutes later

LMAO

[languid meadow]

watchers of the throne good for that as well just from an "outside' perspective

aka from the custodes who do not give a shit

[wary fulcrum]

hive helots are my favourite

Chained to their workstations and sleeping below it whilst they swap with the stationmate

[umbral orbit]

so basically pre-new deal america

got it

[rocky gale]

Sevarina Raine stories are also good

But also wouldn't start there

Honourbound has a special place in my heart

[wary fulcrum]

William King's Space Wolf: A Blood Claw novel (whilst the rest of the series is X: A Space Wolf novel) is a decent starting point for SM, a good explanation of why SW got so popular, and a good showing of SW before they got ridiculous

[rocky gale]

Don't read Space Wolf stuff

[nocturne crest]

Wait, what about a female space wolf?

[umbral orbit]

turkey mention

[urban spire]

what about them?

[wary fulcrum]

some of the better books tbh

Blood of Asaheim is a good read, though the ending of that series tailed off for me

[languid meadow]

Space wolves are actually pretty interesting in comparison to other loyalist marine factions

[wary fulcrum]

just a bit obvious isn't it

[languid meadow]

refeshing to read about them

[rocky gale]

Yea the Viking Shield Maiden thing is too obvious

[wary fulcrum]

oh, and ignore the Lee Lightner books, they're pretty bad

[urban spire]

you can just not read about space marines

[nocturne crest]

Good point.

[languid meadow]

I mean yaeh but there are some good books out there

[rocky gale]

Just you wait until I write a good Space Marine book

[languid meadow]

Devastation of Baal

for nids

[hallow saddle]

read the Fabius Bile novels 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[languid meadow]

pretty cool

[hallow saddle]

(i dont know what we're talking about)

[languid meadow]

also asshole marines getting killed is pretty peak

[wary fulcrum]

i'm reading Krakenblood at the moment

it's alright, i struggle with MC's stuff tbh, but it also has a black space wolf so i'm enjoying how it winds up idiots

[urban spire]

if you ever find yourself reaching for a space marines novel, simply head to royalroad and read sky pride instead. it has nothing to do with space marines, you will feel much better

[wary fulcrum]

throwing books at each other like

[urban spire]

it has nothing to do with 40k at all in fact

[hallow saddle]

i'll shil for the Bile novels any time, anywhere

[languid meadow]

Read....

WWZ

[urban spire]

once you figure out that there's non-40k novels you can really go nuts

if you pick up a copy of wwz, do yourself a favour and put it directly into a dumpster before you can read it

[wary fulcrum]

i loved the Zombie Survival Guide

[rocky gale]

Don't read Awakenings, the cover art for both the regular version and the Limited Edition versions are both based, but don't let it fool you

[urban spire]

yeah i loved it too when i was like 14

[rocky gale]

The book is increadibly fucking dull

[languid meadow]

to be fair you can separate loyalist/traitor marine novels a bit just by the shear volume of loyalist ones there are more mid/bad than good

[wary fulcrum]

but WWZ just...like the funny part of of ZSG just got removed

[languid meadow]

Harrowmaster and of course.... the fucking night lord omnibus

also yeah Fabius novels

fucking reddit atheist lol

[wary fulcrum]

i wholeheartedly second this

Like, i have no actual idea what was supposed to happen, or even what happened, or who the fuck her crew even are other than Conanette, but fuck is that art cool

[daring creek]

she looks prety

whats bad about the book

[wary fulcrum]

(i also think Inquisitors who get the I tattoo'd on their faces need shooting)

[languid meadow]

(mostly puritans)

[wary fulcrum]

more that there was nothing good

[urban spire]

tbf i have no earthly clue what happens in eisenhorn or ravenor either and i love those books

the events that transpire just aren't as interesting as the setting they paint

[daring creek]

Eisen horns everywhere

[languid meadow]

oh god

[meager bane]

THAT'S RIGHT!

[languid meadow]

he's eisening it

[daring creek]

I didn't like Eisenhorn that much, probably because I read it in parts and took me a long time to finish

as it does with all books I read.

it was neat.

[wary fulcrum]

mostly idiots let me tell you.

Like, they're a super secret organisation used to whisper about in the corners

Here's our branding all over my actual fucking face.

And like, the illiterate peasantry who have clearly only ever been told the Emperor loves them through the tithe and if the tithe isnt supplied they dont get the love but instead get the love boot rammed down their throats

As if they'd know who the Inquisition are

[daring creek]

It felt like a real word salad.

[rocky gale]

It's boring, it's a continuation of a comic series that no one read, but it doesn't explain anything that happened in the comic series but references it constantly so if you didn't read the comics you've no clue what's going on, it's writing style is quite basic and you can tell when the author is trying to imitate other 40k writers, none of the characters are really defined and it's a lot of cliches with the characters basically just telling you who and what they are rather letting you form your own opinion of them.

[languid meadow]

Puritan and Idiot go hand in hand

[urban spire]

she ravenor on my eisenhorn til i beq

[languid meadow]

ALSO

[daring creek]

Like

Im not sure what people enjoyed about eisenhorn

[wary fulcrum]

shit gets real, thats what happens.

And there's fantastic cool scenes like a dude c4ing a titan and just being like "yeah, this isn't going to work but at least i'll die setting off a lot of explosives"

or the description of Glaw, or the actual make and mark of the autopistol he rocks

[daring creek]

but I did like where eisenhorn blew the shit off of eyclone

that was cool asf

it kinda felt like hype moments and aura but that might be my low attention going

[urban spire]

i read that shit when i was a teenager that was over a decade ago

[hallow saddle]

i just think its quintessential 40k

[languid meadow]

It's not really grounded iirc but Titanicus is pretty good

shows how different the mechanicus are to the rest of the imperium

[hallow saddle]

like all the stuff about the imperium that isnt marine chapters

[daring creek]

I guess so.

[hallow saddle]

u see prety much a whole slice of the imperium right down to the gutters

[rocky gale]

There's legit a scene where Sabathiel and another Inquisitor are having just a regular conversation and then the other guy goes "Yea I guess they were right when they told me you were a Stone Cold Bitch" and Sabathiel is just like "Yea your god damn right I am" and it just comes out of nowhere and feels so fucking strange because like nothing in the conversation gave me that impression of her, she doesn't do anything or say anything to justify that reaction. It's just the story going "Hey you're supposed to think she's cool"

[hallow saddle]

guard regiments, a few marines, of course the inquisition

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[urban spire]

marines aren't even really part of the imperium, they're just kinda glommed onto it

[wary fulcrum]

oh, ravenor having a psychic kaiju fight through a city (which inadvertedly adds Ravenor and the other guy to the list of psykers more powerful than Magnus) whilst there's an assassin that uses servitor birds to get rid of the bodies

[daring creek]

Oh I'm talking just Xenos. I haven't read malleus or whatever ocmes after that.

[hallow saddle]

and marines are this rare awesome thing whgich is how they are to most ppl

[wary fulcrum]

or the dude who's whole power is "language" and he can literally convince people through body language

[hallow saddle]

the second is peak as fuck, the parade scene dude

wew

[wary fulcrum]

and the underwater cirt?!

[urban spire]

been watching sopranos lately huh

[storm jungle]

"lately"

Make that forever

[wary fulcrum]

the hesitation and the pupet master!

[daring creek]

How many rewatches you have under your belt.

[wary fulcrum]

you know, i'm probably going to drop Krakenblood in favour of Ravenor at this rate

because Harlon Fucken Nayl

[storm jungle]

Like 5-6, its a great show, and I usually stop before I finish Season 6 lol

[daring creek]

lmfao nice

[languid meadow]

why is there no gif of the ghost scene

[urban spire]

i haven't watched it, but ever since someone explained to me that they're not supposed to be cool, they're supposed to be miserable hasbeen losers, i've been kinda interested

[languid meadow]

I need this a reaction gif

[storm jungle]

gif nuke event dont forget

[hallow saddle]

sopranos is peak as fuck

[storm jungle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/paulie-sopranos-chair-ghost

[hallow saddle]

its actual genuine peak

[rocky gale]

Oh and Sabathiel's retinue also has a Squat who always wears Sunglasses and Sabathiel internally acknowledges that he does it just to look cool, it's so fucking cringe

[storm jungle]

Sopranos' best part is it also works in any universe

[languid meadow]

honestly I haven't noticed tenors demise on discord at all and just forgot it happened

[storm jungle]

you can place the entire cast in 40k and it works

[wary fulcrum]

to be fair, that is exactly what i expect from a squat

[wary fulcrum]

but i actually forgot he existed until you said that

[daring creek]

tony being a hive ganger lord

[wary fulcrum]

whereas i think i can name or reference every member of Eisnehorn and Ravenor's retinues

[vagrant fox]

Brando Sando writing Shallan to be witty and funny

[storm jungle]

He seems like a Inquisitor to me

especially with how fucking dysfunctional the yare lmao

[daring creek]

LOL

[rocky gale]

As far as I'd read he doesn't serve a purpose to the story other than being the Squat that wears sunglasses

[daring creek]

HOWS THAT FOR NUTHIN

BING BING BING

[storm jungle]

DING DING DING

[wary fulcrum]

i think my favourite Inquisitor coded fiction is Bad Travelling from Love, Death, Robots

[storm jungle]

Bad Travelling is peak

[arctic talon]

Tony can be both

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-ketchup-relish-packet-gif-23043533

[vagrant fox]

Tony is a vampire

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/780813526566436904/1446313055146344630/Tumblr_l_3347445808956672.jpg?ex=69b16ebf&is=69b01d3f&hm=86a1ba9c03a352f02d29220df3f8e541161e1f0ae7b5a91043094ce86464421f&

[daring creek]

Hm. In xenos I do get a fine taste of the nobles and how casual some are with trading xenos product

[arctic talon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/adrianna-silvio-sopranos-death

[daring creek]

like they just fucking took it bait and line lmfao

[wary fulcrum]

bastards the lot of them

[hallow saddle]

cool im gonna rewatch that

[rocky gale]

Also like the whole first sorta arc makes no sense, they're like "To prove we can trust you we're sending you to complete a mission which no other Inquisitor has been able to complete" and then they plant a bomb on a building which makes a hole and the building collapses. Like wow, you could have just had a ship bomb it from orbit for the same effect.

[daring creek]

Yeah I definitely enjoyed the investigation aspect of xenos

[rocky gale]

Like there was literally zero need for Inquistorial involvement

[hallow saddle]

fuckin love love death and robots

[daring creek]

and how the lines were drew

[wary fulcrum]

just a servitor could have done it, and then the weird beef with the other guys

[daring creek]

cant remember perfectly

but aemos is goated

[rocky gale]

Yea I stopped reading after the stupid double cross thing

[wary fulcrum]

i think my favourite part of Ravenor is when they meet the other warband who're all just as weird as Ravenor's lot

[storm jungle]

I hate how Inquisitor books are just cursed to be shit

Her book came out, instantly forgotten

Coteaz book came out, instantly forgotten

i read both, they are dogshit lmao

[arctic talon]

whos books are we talking about

lol

the first one

[wary fulcrum]

Sabathiel, the one with the cool cover

[rocky gale]

Astor Sabathiel's book, Awakenings

[arctic talon]

Oh

[rocky gale]

Pure trash

[arctic talon]

yeah I'm not surprised

unfortunately

[wary fulcrum]

best boy, deserved a better friend

[rocky gale]

Like really cool cover, but god

[arctic talon]

Did you read the comics she was in lol

they weren't good either

[urban spire]

writing good 40k requires the willingness to just make up a shitton of new lore on the spot

[rocky gale]

I was reading the novel during my break at work and it made me want to go back to work sooner

[arctic talon]

is this warframe

I'm like 99% sure this is the pet genetic degredation message

[vagrant fox]

Yes

[wary fulcrum]

the Wraight ones are alright, Shadow of the Throne i think?

i quite liked them, but then when they meet the other warband there's one kook and the rest are drones

but i forgive it because Cowl makes extensive use of faceless drones, with two kooks

[arctic talon]

yeah it is

[vagrant fox]

I did it to several dogs

[urban spire]

you did WHAT to several dogs?

[vagrant fox]

It

[storm jungle]

the clown???

[wary fulcrum]

which is easy!

Like, an Inquisitor story could really just be any sci fi investigative story but add in cthulu daemons and bolt pistols and you're golden

[heady rivet]

Its Dilara actually

[arctic talon]

not inject them with DNA stabalizers

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-peepo-clown-gif-20274809

[languid meadow]

pretty sure they got rid of the DNA stuff iirc

[urban spire]

yeah but guys is always referencing the setting material instead

[arctic talon]

They did

I still have a few hundred tho lol

[wary fulcrum]

exactly, it's like they shoot themselves in the foot on purpose

[daring creek]

Yeah I know but its the nature of the inquisition.

[rocky gale]

Like if you're writing an Inquisitor story, then you need to create a story that requires an Inquisitor

[vagrant fox]

Just read the Horusian Wars 4head

[daring creek]

Mission come first

[rocky gale]

One second, let me get the scene

[urban spire]

also inquisitors is one of the few types of guy in 40k who get to act nearly entirely on their own initiative

[wary fulcrum]

Eisenhorn to be fair

Eisenhorn just likes aura farming, hence the whole investigation, starving himself in case of poison, huge fur coat in summer during a trial

"Cherubael, kill it"

Such a drama queen

[urban spire]

if you just want a guy following orders, don't do an inquisitor

[daring creek]

I mean Inquisitors function as a sort of wild card right? Their authority out ranking that of commisars or whatever.

[storm jungle]

ENTIRELY depends on the Inquisitor

like

an Inquisitor can literally be 1 guy

or a man with an entire personal army

its so that you can basically make an Inquisitor from any degree/standing

[wary fulcrum]

they technically outrank everyone

Their whole purpose is "to protect the soul of the Emperor"

but then what does that actually mean?

[vagrant fox]

Sometimes little inquisitor answers to big inquisitor but that's about it

[storm jungle]

^

[urban spire]

they are beholden to inquisitor lords, the high lords of terra, and precious little else

they technically have authority over space marines in some regards but that's the kinda authority you don't push

[storm jungle]

You can be some private-eye level Inquisitor, sniff up a wrong noble, get killed, and your death would prob go entirely unnoticed especially if nobody in the Conclave liked you and just covered up your death like some incident lol

or just get passed off by the ruling Inquisitors as "Eh he was an idiot who cares"

[heady rivet]

Just because you can doesnt mean you should. There's a mentioned minor Ordo whose whole thing is dealing with Astartes and its a lot of asskissing I'd imagine

[wary fulcrum]

are they though? Like, if they just ignored them, what happens?

even Inquisitor Lords, technically Eisenhorn was one by hereticus, but he got ignored by that dickhead Inquisitor who deserved everything he got

[urban spire]

if you demand to see the gene seed again and the chapter goes "no", you have basically no good options

[daring creek]

by "little inquisitor" you're not talking an interrogator yeah?

[wary fulcrum]

that assuming the Conclave even notice. It might be a couple of years before they realise they haven't had candelmas cards

[storm jungle]

Yeah no he means like low level Inquisitors

[daring creek]

Ah.

[storm jungle]

again Inquisitors can be of any station

[urban spire]

also there are shitass ordos

[storm jungle]

Even Eisenhorn has to be careful

[vagrant fox]

Just pull off a celestial lions
If you're cool enough to have snipers around

[wary fulcrum]

most are recruited from the Scholams, so are functionally competent Imperials

but not all, some are "ordained" (is that the word?) by others, so could be a random fantatical bounty hunter and the boss likes the cut of your jib so sponsors you for a rosette

[storm jungle]

the scholam thing doesnt largely matter

anyone can go mad with power

from the lowliest to the highest station

[vagrant fox]

Not me I'd be a perfect dictator

[languid meadow]

literally 80% of scholam graduates go mad with power (they're just also good at their jobs)

[wary fulcrum]

mad but not useless

Like, they'll be able to do the job thats required for the most part, they can read for example

[storm jungle]

uhhh

[urban spire]

if they're good at their jobs why is the imperium shit

[daring creek]

so

[languid meadow]

because they're good at the systems that make it shit

[daring creek]

functionally illiterate

[languid meadow]

it's that shrimple

[urban spire]

that sounds like they're just esoterically incompetent

[storm jungle]

I mean

[languid meadow]

your mother

[storm jungle]

have you looked at the shit CIA and KGB have fucked up IRL

lol

[languid meadow]

literally the systems that make the imperium shit still need skilled people to make it work

[wary fulcrum]

maybe they are, but thats because if they learn how to banish daemons another inquisitor might consider that heresy and shoot them in the face for it

[urban spire]

yeah i do not harbour the delusion that communist regimes always fail because the CIA is some omniscient threat

[storm jungle]

I meant more that intelligence agencies can be very braindead

lol

[urban spire]

i mean they don't exactly help, but have you seen how many times they fucked up trying to assassinate castro

[storm jungle]

mostly by self-infliction

[storm jungle]

EXPLODING CIGARS

😩

[languid meadow]

if they're going to be incompetent at least let them be funny about it

[urban spire]

tried to poison his shoes with estrogen or something too didnt they

or make him go bald? shave his beard?

i don't fucking remember, cia clownery

[wary fulcrum]

(i do worry about the one that used CCTV cameras to track a world leaders movements for a missile to kill him day 1 but also missed the massive army that was gathering at their border which committed the worst atrocity their nation has ever seen on home soil)

[vagrant fox]

With how ad-hoc the Inquisition and with the infighting you'll get a lot of dumbass inquisitors

[languid meadow]

talking like he's a fucking viltrumite

[daring creek]

Like the use of body language in an interrogation.

[storm jungle]

Yep

[daring creek]

Literally just pseudoscience

[storm jungle]

dont forget the CIA literally mildly poisoned entire US cities to test chemical warfare attacks lol

[urban spire]

just reading palms in there

[daring creek]

that gets innocent people jailed :/

[wary fulcrum]

depends on how you mean by dumbass

[urban spire]

they straight up killed people doing this, too

[storm jungle]

Yep and now imagine the shit we dont hear

they 100% did Outlast Trials tier shit

lmao

[young pecan]

How many "How High"s do we have running around

[storm jungle]

and no im not talking about MK Ultra

[languid meadow]

canwegetmuchhigherrrrrr

sohighhhhh

[urban spire]

cia really joined the war on drugs on the side of drugs

[daring creek]

[wary fulcrum]

in their defence, were they told which side they were supposed to be on?

[languid meadow]

yes

on the side of drugs

[urban spire]

the cia is like a dog it just does things arbitrarily for no reason

[vagrant fox]

Emil Darkhammer stupid

[languid meadow]

the US govs stance on drugs (and even still kind of today) is that drugs existing isn't really that bad

until it affects higher income areas

with crime

IE look at pablo

[urban spire]

anyway the inquisition has a rogue inquisitor problem because its an organization that trains and empowers people to run self contained spy networks with their own personal armies, gives them knowledge of all the cool secret shit, and then employs a sort of honor system to keep them out of the cookie jar

[storm jungle]

Correct

[vagrant fox]

It's very cool

[storm jungle]

Also correct

[wary fulcrum]

hes not dumb, he's just a perfect example of the Imperium and the Inquisition unfortunately works.

Honestly, the first warning sign should have been when he changed his name from Krevis to Darkhammer, his Inquisitor should have just bulleted him then

[wary fulcrum]

one of my characters is someone who just pretends to be an inquisitor

its a super secret spy organisation, prove i'm not in it

yes, these martini's need to be drank so i can test the vodka for any warp taint using my liver. The island and naked people are purely decadent corruption though

[languid meadow]

"which ordo do you go to"
"ehhhh you wouldn't know it! It's super secret..."

[wary fulcrum]

do you know how many ordos there are? More than 3 i'll tell you that much!

And we know more than the characters!

(Ordo Sicarius plague zombie hunters for life)

(also Ordo Astartes marine hunters for life)

[storm jungle]

theres only 3 Major Ordos

otherwise yeah its infinite lol

[crystal forum]

what do you guys think the next edition's main faction will be other than space marines

[storm jungle]

Orks

its been in the leaks

[wary fulcrum]

Inquisition

[crystal forum]

interesting

[vagrant fox]

I thinkDarkhammer's fantastic but wiping out a planet over a smattering of insurgents doesn't scream well thought out to me

[wary fulcrum]

they employ sniper orks

[storm jungle]

because like evil faceless horde faction wise we did uh

• 8th, Death Guard
• 9th, Necrons
• 10th, Tyranids

[crystal forum]

orks needed some more love

[wary fulcrum]

it is thorough though

[vagrant fox]

It is thorough

[crystal forum]

i hope this means we get armageddon round 4....

[vagrant fox]

Imperial Guard soon

[wary fulcrum]

i can see Armageddon round 4

Between Ghazkull and Angron we might get a rematch with

Maybe BA? I feel like we're getting BA again

i also feel BA was...second?

was BT third?

[storm jungle]

Armageddon is for when Yarrick gets his new mini yea

so thats prob later in some warzone thing

[crystal forum]

yarrick, age 1200

[wary fulcrum]

i hope he has an Ork arm and a Khorne arm

just beats people with the khorne one

[crystal forum]

guy's just the spongebob chocolate old guy

[wary fulcrum]

holds it like a staff of office

[crystal forum]

yarrick

[storm jungle]

me when rejuvenation

calls himself a guard fan and doesnt know lore

banning this guy

https://klipy.com/gifs/caseoh-get-this-guy-ban

[wary fulcrum]

i was pointing out how SW aren't immune to chaos and that the Wolf Brothers didn't die because they weren't from Fenris all morning

Quoting actual codecis and books, and being told "nuhuh youtube says no" is a new part of the hobby i dont love

[heady rivet]

Lore accurate Guardsman he just knows

To fight

[young pecan]

According to Abnett, the elbows are the truest sign of real age

[storm jungle]

🦴

[nocturne crest]

So here's a thought: What if they replace the Catachan range with something else, like ork hunters?

[storm jungle]

They are literally catachan

so same thing

also Catachan too iconic

[young pecan]

So his elbows specifically are the chocolate spongebob woman

[wary fulcrum]

i could see it being both like

So you can do a catachan army or have a specific xenos hunter veteran squad for guard

[umbral orbit]

are there any other traitor regiments that arent the blood pact or the moebian 6th

[jade holly]

We need a Sly Marbo model referencing Doom standing on top of a pile of Ork corpses

[umbral orbit]

specifically ones with flashy armors

[storm jungle]

keep your slop out of 40k

we got enough mire as it is

[jade holly]

Smh no love for Doomslayer

[daring creek]

55 more black templar minis

[wary fulcrum]

new HD skins look...well i like them

[jade holly]

Besides Orks, Deldar and GK, what other armies need refreshes?

Idk why I pinged specifically you

But now you are obligated to answer

[solid horizon]

sly marbo isnt for that

[wary fulcrum]

do Deldar need one? Really?

[jade holly]

I always thought they did

I always hear stories about how Deldar don’t get new models cause no one plays them and no one plays them cause the models are so old

[storm jungle]

its not about "no one plays them"

GW is just shit in miniature management because marines make more money lol

[daring creek]

the interex

from HH

and mega spiders

[solid horizon]

Deldars are op as fuck on tabletop

I do not wish anyone to witness eviscerating flyby or their stupid melee weapons

[solid horizon]

catachan and pretoria

no new models in decades

[nocturne crest]

T'au

[languid meadow]

I mean...

non battlesuits?

When did fire warriors last get a new model

[lament shoal]

I'd like to see auxiliaries that aren't kroot tbh

[languid meadow]

I wish for that as well

I hope total war will have them

I reallyyyy want human auxiliaries but they're like dirt cheap chaff like peasants for britonnia

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Tau

if we dont count the KT Pathfinders then 2015

[languid meadow]

yeeesh

yeah they could use a refresh esp with the new kroot

[storm jungle]

having seen how fucking good the Pathfinders look yeah i agree lol

[nocturne crest]

7th Edition

[solid horizon]

necron immortals need a new model that fits the new warrior models

they still have the 5th edition model

[languid meadow]

they'll prob get like

a KT set like vespids

if you count that

but for now it's all choas for a bit

still hope we get a dark mechanicum faction

need a "mortal" side to chaos in 40k

[solid horizon]

as a dark mechanicum player myself im afraid that's never going to happen oustide of 30k

that would imply so much changes in armies

or allowing them to share same units as heretic astartes

[languid meadow]

my main cope is vashtorr tbh but they're just shoving IW into that

[arctic talon]

It will prolly just be lost and the damned again

[solid horizon]

the best you can do right now is playing ad mech and pretend they're evil bad guys and use CSM on the side

[arctic talon]

Not dark mechanicum

For the first chaos mortals faction

[languid meadow]

Just so bored of chaos marines

yes they can be cool but the mortal side is so much more interesting

[solid horizon]

Dark Mech would probably not really be "mortals" either considering how much they rely on daemon engines and bizarre creations

there is dark skitarii but that's pretty much chaos cultists

[languid meadow]

they're more "mortal" than the 10000 year old transhuman or the timeless daemon

[solid horizon]

yeah but the "mortals" are hidden in soul forges

all they will do is distribute one morbillion daemon engine to whichever warband they are allied to

Dark Mechanicus is kitbasher's faction

build random stuff and proxy it as real units (chaos spawns for example)

[languid meadow]

banished like renegade guard but we're more likely to get those with lost and the damned

tbh

either way point still stands in that 40k chaos needs a mortal side for the TT

[solid horizon]

I mean

nothing prevents you from spamming cultists

there are even detachments for that

[languid meadow]

we did get traitor guard I just forgot when these came out

[solid horizon]

gotta go fast detachment

[languid meadow]

yea

the thing is they're still very supplementary to marines for the main thing

[solid horizon]

they have a pretty op stratagem

[languid meadow]

which is better than nothing

god damn wtf

[solid horizon]

with these detachment rules you can play only cultists if you want

[languid meadow]

I meant model wise

[solid horizon]

basically minecraft thorns

[languid meadow]

cultists have a couple outside of their main

guardsmen only have one set

[solid horizon]

the thing with cultists is

you can use basically anyone you want as such

my brother has like 170ish cutist models

games workshop, forgeworld, imperial guards and even some mordheim minis

[languid meadow]

and by that I mean they have 2 ( 3 if you count dark commune)

yeah kitbashing always works

and I love that

but holy shit after seeing the official traitor guard stuff I'd love to see more takes on it from them

[solid horizon]

there is renegade ogryns as well who have good stats

[languid meadow]

I guess Fellgor are mortals as well

[solid horizon]

the one with a jackhammer arm is op

[languid meadow]

okay where the fuck are the renegade ogryn models anyway

I can never find them

[solid horizon]

they're forgeworld

[languid meadow]

I know they exist in some extent esp with the vraks one

ahhhhh

[solid horizon]

thats why you can not find them

[languid meadow]

fuck

[solid horizon]

as mentionned earlier, most of the stuff from darktide is more or less directly taken from forgeworld's renegade militia range

[languid meadow]

they look good

love to see a plastic refresh of them

[languid meadow]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they reuse the beastmen banner mechanic

[raven stone]

You can even use Old World/AoS Chaos dudes as 40k Cultists in all honesty

Feudal Worlds are a thing (TM)

[solid horizon]

yeah

Im pretty sure you can use skitarii as well

[languid meadow]

I've seen some wicked skitarii conversions

idr if the heretek dlc has new skitarii models (or if they're even in that dlc as enemies)

those designs are pretty wicked

[lament shoal]

They went goth

[solid horizon]

I call my dark skits leatherboys because they're all dressed in black

[languid meadow]

it's funny since a lot of hereteks are like

actual heretics

and not apostates like most chaos/traitors

[solid horizon]

criminals yeah

[languid meadow]

well heretics are people who still believe in the same thing just differently (iirc) while apostates actively deny or have turned away from entirely

[solid horizon]

in my semi homebrew warband/cult, some skitarii are actual dark skitarii, and others are enhanced cultists with gadgets

[languid meadow]

It's a loose term but that's the general meaning

[solid horizon]

I call the 40k skits cultists with gadgets because of their less imposing stature and because of how my brother treated them on the game I played them (he threatened to execute them if they didn't move out of the way)

30k skits are the actual dark skits

[plush mason]

i love how close they are too loyalist guard still

[solid horizon]

I like how one of them is the darktide sniper

[plush mason]

arent they literally apostates from the cult mechanicus?

an apostate is someone that has left the church

[languid meadow]

A lot of them still believe in the omnissiah iirc and that Big E is not it

but it depends

[solid horizon]

some hereteks are hereteks because they are traitors, some are hereteks are hereteks because they broke the sacred laws

a lot of hereteks just wanna get really smart and not be slowed by ethical boundaries

[languid meadow]

yeah they still believe in the core of cult

but just differently

[storm jungle]

A heretek is someone that does a crime against the creed of the Cult Mechanicus

[languid meadow]

which is more heretical than "heretics" that chaos marines are

chaos marines are apostates

[storm jungle]

it can range from just some normal techpriest that just wanted to improve the factorial working conditions of some manufactory

to a literal fleshy machine cultist chaos worshipper

lol

[solid horizon]

that

[storm jungle]

You can be a heretek and literally look like some normal techpriest

Cawl for example is a heretek

[plush mason]

i dont think most chaos marines can be called apostate

[languid meadow]

well

post heresy

[storm jungle]

They are apostates lol

apostate is just a fancy way to say "heretic" so its whatever really

[languid meadow]

NO

[plush mason]

its not

[storm jungle]

it is

[solid horizon]

heretek is quite a broad term, specifying which type of heretek one is referring to is more practical

[plush mason]

an apostae is a member of the clergy that has left or been removed

[storm jungle]

not really

it can be someone that just denounces something religious too

again, same shit

[solid horizon]

im sad that iconoclast isn't used more as a term in wh40k cause I really love that word

[storm jungle]

Its a bit too mouthful

thats prob why lol

[plush mason]

there are also few iconoclasts that dont become full on heretics

[solid horizon]

yeah because a lot of thing in warhammer isn't a mouthful right

[languid meadow]

this shit is a mouthful in real life as well

[storm jungle]

Deserters, Abettors, Apostates, Renegades, Harbourers, Cowards, Infidels, Perjurers, Recidivists, Seditionists, Dissidents, Delinquents, Reprobates, Malcontents, Deviants, Insurrectionists, Subversives, Heretics

🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥

[solid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-clone-high-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-jack-black-gif-18659433

[storm jungle]

(these are all from the novels btw so lol)

[languid meadow]

pretty sure infidels and heretics are interchangeable I'd need to check

actually nvm

pretty sure it's just "non believer"

[plush mason]

an iconoclast is someone that intentionally seeks to change or destory traditons and belifes within their own culture

[storm jungle]

can confirm yeah

[solid horizon]

basically chaos dudes

[storm jungle]

a lot of "you insult our religion!" words literally can just be surmized as "heretic"

[plush mason]

yeah

[languid meadow]

which is DUMB

[plush mason]

sometimes

[languid meadow]

words have meaning and we should use htem

[storm jungle]

Never.

Kill this infidel

https://klipy.com/gifs/muslim-cat-1

[solid horizon]

I mean the basic meaning of iconoclast is someone or something that seeks to destroy religious iconography/icons

if that's not what chaos dudes actively do idk what that is

[storm jungle]

its funny because "iconoclast" as a word really doesnt sound that bad, evil or menacing lol

[solid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/for-you-bane-the-dark-knight-rises-tom-hardy-gif-21912820

[storm jungle]

i had to google what it meant before i learned its basically just a defiler

[solid horizon]

now we need a new daemon engine called an iconoclast

[storm jungle]

[languid meadow]

but yeah back to taht one thing

Hereteks (at least dark mechanicum) are like

real world heretics

basically mormons to catholics

lol

[solid horizon]

more like unit 731

[languid meadow]

well

religiously

[solid horizon]

dr mengele, my favorite dark magos

[languid meadow]

if we're talking worldly

then they're JWs

[solid horizon]

idk if that's comparable

dark mechanicus is mostly tech dudes who dont believe in the omnissiah's lies and prefer to exploit chaos and daemons

instead of your usual servitor variant

they're basically the chaos variant of ad mech really

[languid meadow]

I think it depends on teh sect

[arctic talon]

Dark Mechanicum vary wildly

the martian sect worship the dark king

As the "true" omnissiah

[languid meadow]

because some still do believe in the omnissiah but they believe it's an aspect of chaos and not Big E

[arctic talon]

the Anvilus sect worshipped khorne

[solid horizon]

yeah well there is also the thing that dark mech is more or less ancapistan

[arctic talon]

And Xana is just

xana

[solid horizon]

IIRC a lot of dark mech cults are NOT allied

[arctic talon]

They were never very pious in the first place

They're not

just like the mechanicus

they all fucking hate each other

lol

They barely get along

the only sense of unity they have is they hate everyone else more

[solid horizon]

yeah but at least mechanicus doesnt kill each other

[languid meadow]

what's 40k without a lil infighting

[arctic talon]

that is literally false

[languid meadow]

I meannnnnnnnnnnn

[arctic talon]

lol

[languid meadow]

they do

[solid horizon]

less

[arctic talon]

Okay yeah

but they still drag a dead body out of every parliment of mars meeting at least

[solid horizon]

mars mfs are weird dudes

[languid meadow]

still fucking funny to me that the mechanicus is technically a democracy lmao

you never really think about it

[plush mason]

its a parliamentary theocracy

[arctic talon]

The theocrat is elected

and doesn't hold absolute power

💀

[plush mason]

exactly

[arctic talon]

Tbf this is what happens when you have the biggest and most culturally diverse forgeworld have a parliment where people are allowed to keep their weapons

Someone is going to piss someone off

and someone is going to pull a neutron laser out their ass

[languid meadow]

it's funny since this happens in real life

[plush mason]

tbf its likely really hard to remove some of the weapons on these techpriests

[languid meadow]

just look at old British parliament or old US congress

[arctic talon]

I think the tech priest and skitarii guards don't want to try to tell the Myrmidon that they cannot bring their darkfire cannon into the holy synod

[plush mason]

yeah

[languid meadow]

I know they'll never do it (unless they have and I'm stupid) but I'd love to see a special skitarii unit that is just honour guard for parliament

we had one for titans and they're peak

[arctic talon]

That would be fucking hilarious ngl

[languid meadow]

like dudes whose whole job is to watch them go at it for days on end

could be a cool design also since secutarii are peak

Like these guys but for the old people in parliament

[arctic talon]

the skitarii branch of the noosphere is just filled with complaining about how boring it is

lol

[languid meadow]

"oughhhh fuck they're gonna bring up servitor regulations againnnnn"

but yeah secutarii but for parliament would be awesome

untapped unit potential

[plush mason]

are those spears or do they fire some kind of projectile? or both

[languid meadow]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Arc_Lance they blow up

[arctic talon]

They're spears designed for killing super heavy vehicles, the shields are this weird thing that synchornizes with titan void shields to help distribute stuff

[languid meadow]

basically think of that japanese suicide bomb stick

[arctic talon]

which lets Secutarii hoplites do some stupid shit

[languid meadow]

it's that but electric

[arctic talon]

also arc lances don't explode

they're not an arc grenade lance

[languid meadow]

technically

"The arc lance inflicts damage through short range blasts of coruscating energy"

they kind of do

[arctic talon]

yes but they don't literally explode like grenade spears

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I imagined some type of story where a Tech Priest is tasked to like flip a switch

But they have to go down to the depths of the Imperial Palace to do it

With all the abominations underneath

And this is like a daily thing for him so he's just mildly annoyed that he has to fight aberrations against mankind and nature

Like he doesn't even feel the satisfaction anymore for killing mutants

He just wants it over with

[lament shoal]

Bro doesn't even get to have a custodes escort 🥀

[jade holly]

Holy crap those are sick

[languid meadow]

yeah secutarii are awesome

[daring creek]

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FixupX · Mar 9, 2026, 4:15 PM

[outer wave]

There's gotta be a body inside of that coffin

[daring creek]

I mean a coffin is a coffin

speaking of dreadnoughts

I still don't like the legs of redemptor dreadnoughts

[outer wave]

I think they look less silly than the OG dreads

[daring creek]

For some reason I like the short and stubby legs

Just feels better

but then redempters got better hands

but

the claw of castraferrum dreadnoughts have such a vibe

[outer wave]

True true

[daring creek]

dreadfall time

yet again.

and stubby legs generally feel more tactically efficient

https://youtu.be/jqgnZsMxBfI

happiness.

[opaque coyote]

I just realized that in 2077, there's very little Italian food

The only one that can possibly count is buck-a-slice

Most of Night City's foods are Asian, American, and Mexican

Either that or indistinct corpo slop

But there's no Italian

Huh

There's a market out there for some delicious Scop Spaghetti N Locust Meatballs

I kinda wonder where the vendors even get their supplies from

Probably have to make a contract with All Foods

[celest cedar]

this some beautiful stuff

[winter pine]

All Foods owns probably 90% of the food supply at least

The rest is actual real food that only the super wealthy can even look at

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-monsters-vs-aliens-backstory-general-wr-monger-carrot-puree-gif-2489302587724954024

[jade holly]

Don’t worry little Dark Eldar fan, papa GW’s got plenty of Ultramarine leader models to feed you your entire life, GARRY! BRING OUT THE FOURTH CALGAR

[languid meadow]

they also got like

a really cool plot that will go nowhere

the whole nu-golden throne shit

[jade holly]

What they planning to trap Slaanesh on it?

Give em ye olde Hephaestus

[arctic talon]

All foods owns a chunk of that as well prolly lol

[arctic talon]

There prolly is but not represented ingame

[languid meadow]

uhhh iirc they were "helping" the mechanicus fix the golden throne but were also trying to steal organic samples of big E

[arctic talon]

tbh

the plan failed

for the haemonculi

they had their golden throne copy done

but no dna

[languid meadow]

well

[jade holly]

They trying to make a weapon to fight Slaanesh or am I tying them to Slaanesh too much?

[languid meadow]

for everyone

[arctic talon]

yeah

[languid meadow]

they were all crushed

[arctic talon]

well

the Fabricator general lived

somehow

[languid meadow]

oh he lived?

[arctic talon]

I'm still shocked

[languid meadow]

huh

[arctic talon]

yeah

[jade holly]

just a flesh wound I bet

[languid meadow]

Commragh is failing

basically

[arctic talon]

wait nvm

he fucking died

[jade holly]

Isn’t Jaghatai B-lining for that right now?

[languid meadow]

we don't know

[arctic talon]

Xasandera Valdet is fabricator general now

[jade holly]

Also damn every faction in 40K is faltering besides Orks and Tyranids huh?

And maybe I guess Necrons but it depends on who wins the civil war

[winter pine]

More partial to Jaghatai just faking his death and bouncing out instead of hunting the Drukhari myself

There's no confirmation on what his fate was but GW will reveal it eventually

[jade holly]

Bro just wants to ride the Webway like a true motorcycle warrior

[arctic talon]

I'd say the Tau are doing fine

somehow

[jade holly]

They haven’t gotten their canon event yet

They’re too young of a civilization

it’ll come soon

Don’t worry, the Grimdark always wins

[winter pine]

it'll be off screen in some article too lmao

[arctic talon]

lol

thats only for nobody's from video games

[languid meadow]

yeah but either way the nu-golden throne is a VERY cool plot point

but one that will never go anywhere

[arctic talon]

Genuinely why do people give so much of a shit about Chairon and Acheran(?????)

especially since Acheran was already FUCKING DEAD

[fervent geode]

Chaos Rising

[arctic talon]

and then they brought him back (?????)

they should have just shat out a new second company captain

[jade holly]

I don’t count chaos given Khorne’s literally super juiced right now

[languid meadow]

I liked Chairon

[jade holly]

Did I read that wrong? I’m losing my train of thought

[fervent geode]

Not just Khorne, Nurgle is literally eating the materium in the Eastern Fringe

[languid meadow]

I don't care for Acheran

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah but Chairon being killed off in a like

[jade holly]

Bro’s getting a light snack

[arctic talon]

paragraph long excerpt isn't that weird

ngl

[languid meadow]

for 40k yeah

[arctic talon]

I think people literally expect too much lol

[languid meadow]

but I do wish he was killed ingame

tbh

[arctic talon]

I agree

maybe they'll shove it into Space Marine 3

lol

[languid meadow]

no lol

[fervent geode]

Sortiarus has literally moved for the forzare sector on the Tzeentch front

[arctic talon]

opening mission is Chairon getting mogged by GSC

[languid meadow]

probably not

[arctic talon]

prolly not

[jade holly]

I hope SM2 adds other Chaos legions to fight in future operations ngl

[arctic talon]

they won't

[languid meadow]

the opening mission is probably something to do with 500 worlds

imo

[arctic talon]

Titus running from the nightbringer shard

[fervent geode]

I doubt it, itll prob be crons

[arctic talon]

lol

[jade holly]

Probably awakening Ammentar and the Nightbringer

[languid meadow]

necrons are clearly being built up as the next big bad for titty boy

from SM2 to now 500 worlds

[arctic talon]

Considering how its gone in the 500 worlds so far

2nd company is cooked

he lost over half of them

[jade holly]

I kinda wanna see a truce form between Titus and a Szarekhan overlord to contain the Nightbringer

[median star]

id kill titus with my bare hands

[jade holly]

but that’ll never happen

[languid meadow]

I mean assaulting a tomb world will do that

[arctic talon]

I mean

Titus is also a shit commander

He also has other issues

[fervent geode]

Shouldve gave leandros command smh

[jade holly]

My apologies Leandros, I was not familiar with your game

[languid meadow]

Szarekhan is dealing with Imotekh

I don't think Szar is gonna be in any game but like

[arctic talon]

deadass Titus should not have been turned into a captain again lol

he's an awful commander

[languid meadow]

maybe DoW or fucking TW

[fervent geode]

Szarekh is too big a fish

[jade holly]

I mean both Immy and Szarekh would shut the fuck up when they see a shard of Aza’gorod running around freely

[languid meadow]

see we said that for primarchs

but DoW4 is right there

[arctic talon]

DoW/Total war 100%

not even a prolly

[languid meadow]

I do think we'll see him in Total war

[arctic talon]

them being in an RTS is whatever

[fervent geode]

Yeah but not in SM3

[languid meadow]

that or Imotekh

[arctic talon]

Total war 100% lol

Total war is gona have every named character

[jade holly]

Can’t wait to kill Lion’el Johnson with a bomb squig

[fervent geode]

In RTS games forsure

[arctic talon]

Lion'el johnson dies to grots

more at 7

[fervent geode]

I saw a Leman Russ kill Morty irl

So its cool

[arctic talon]

GW doesn't really care about primarchs dying in gameplay lol

Primarchs are kind of shit

on average mostly

[fervent geode]

True

[arctic talon]

aside from heresy 1e and 2e

[jade holly]

This just in: Angron was killed by a guardsman with a pointy stick

[arctic talon]

which have them as absurdly OP but still shit in other ways

I kicked magnus to death

in 9e

💀

[fervent geode]

I mean its magnus but true

[jade holly]

Here’s a magic trick Magnus: my boot up your ass

Realistically, who’s the easiest primarch to kill

[arctic talon]

Gman

in Heresy its Kurze

[jade holly]

The accountant but only when he’s
Not raging

[arctic talon]

you're talking about the tabletop or lore

lol

[jade holly]

Both why not

[arctic talon]

bcs tabletop its guilliman/kurze

[jade holly]

Let’s have fun

[arctic talon]

in lore fuck if I know

for chaos primarchs easiest to kill is Angron

[jade holly]

Perturabo is literally a walking fortress surrounded by walking fortresses

[arctic talon]

bcs he comes back for free from Khornes Krazy Casino

[jade holly]

So he’s out

[arctic talon]

Perturabo is actually

not that tanky

lol

[jade holly]

Yeah but he has guns that have the range of fuck you

[arctic talon]

I mean not really?

Logos array is like

[jade holly]

Fulgrim I feel like would be too fast

[fervent geode]

I think ive seen Perty die to Solar Aux

[arctic talon]

30" range

[fervent geode]

But lore so

[arctic talon]

Perty is pretty squishy weirdly

in like every edition of heresy

[jade holly]

Well yeah doesn’t he sit more in the back for Army formations?

Protected by his Iron Circle

[arctic talon]

eh

depends

actually yeah wtf lol

he doesn't have FNP

the other termi armor primarchs have it lol

bros made of glass

[jade holly]

Why be tanky when you kill anything that tries to reach you before it can

[arctic talon]

because he isn't very killy at ranged

again

[fervent geode]

I guess lorewise he's not up there with the "fighty" primarchs

[arctic talon]

still feels odd he lacks the FNP

eh whatever

[jade holly]

Peter was always more of a commander

Wasn’t he?

The only physical feat that I know of for him is manhandling Fulgrim at one moment… was it even Fulgrim?

[fervent geode]

Lorgar can give FNP to his retinue so he gets a pass

[jade holly]

I bet Lorgar is just a walking aura of buffs and debuffs

Pure support Primarch

[arctic talon]

nah

Lorgar is a beatstick psyker lol

in 30k

[jade holly]

Ngl

Never knew he was a Psyker

[arctic talon]

also tanky as fuck

bcs he has it will not die 4+

[jade holly]

Peter def feels like he relies more on his army though based on what you guys say

does he do anything commander esque on tabletop?

[arctic talon]

all the primarchs give an armywide buff

to their legion

Perturabos got battlesmith is the like

real interesting thing about his sheet

vehicles good

[fervent geode]

Repairman

[languid meadow]

did you see that they made SOMA real

[sacred ginkgo]

Huh

[languid meadow]

they copied a fly's brain and uploaded it to a simulation

it's very rough and not "new" since it's based off of older stuff

https://eon.systems/updates/embodied-brain-emulation but still scary

[jade holly]

you mean we’re one step closer to irl Arnim Zola?

[languid meadow]

uhhh maybe

more like SOMA or fucking

Halo AI

[jade holly]

Uploading my copied brain into a Tesla robot

[languid meadow]

where it's a copy of a mind

[winter pine]

aw sweet, SOULKILLER in real life!

[jade holly]

what could possibly go wrong

[winter pine]

what's the worst that could happen

[celest cedar]

we're one step closer

to creating the torment nexus

[daring creek]

https://fixupx.com/SecKennedy/status/2031020656989495364

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[winter pine]

Why is it always K-On with these types

[daring creek]

Jesus christ
His Imperium

too far gone

just too far gone.

[opaque coyote]

Minos’s death revealed in new Art Print for the NewBlood anniversary

Dude did not die quickly holy shit

Love how the pierced areas actually reference his boss form.

One spear to where the eyes were supposed to be
The other in his heart

[opaque coyote]

I also love how

One of the Lust citizen's is crying at his impaled hand, some are outright grieving, but the ones in the left are angry. Seemingly shouting at Gabriel.

And also the impaled hand. This represents a Stigmata.

A bodily wound/scar from crucifixion

He was the saviour for the lust layer, turned a place of punishment into a prosperous civilization

...and he was punished for trying to take on the sins of his fellow man.

But instead of being punished by the Romans, he was punished by "God's Will".

The reason why Jesus doesn't exist in Ultrakill is because in Ultrakill, God is even more flawed than in the Bible.

Considering free will itself an aberration.

Minos was the closest thing to that and he was punished.

[spare osprey]

I would've done anything for the Monarch of Lust.

[heady rivet]

Lord help me I installed Chapter Master

[winter pine]

certified /tg/ classic

[cerulean trellis]

Chapter master?

[raven stone]

Morning.
Pain.

[heady rivet]

Space Marine Chapter simulation game

Its fun but you need to be a masochist

[celest cedar]

https://youtu.be/ObETpIPx8Qw

[raven stone]

So...you make horrible choices 24/7?

As a Chapter Master that is

[last stone]

Like one of those "9-1-1" games, but instead you sent space marine squads or divisions

[raven stone]

Ah

Might look into it to see how fast things go south under my command

[cerulean trellis]

it does soudn painfull xD

[ionic vessel]

we know who he is

[civic gale]

hi lore chat

i've come to pester you again

recaf is the 40k equivalent to caffeine correct?

a black drink that has teh same properties

[hallow saddle]

yeah pretty much

i see it as like reused coffee grounds that have had caffeine added again so it probsbly tastes really bad

abnett writes about tanna as well which is also coffee

[rocky gale]

Tanna is tea

A really strong type of tea

Based off Chifir, a type of tea used by the Soviets

[heady rivet]

Possible, yes

[heady rivet]

Yeah its vaguely coffee-adjacent

[raven stone]

As an aside, as someone remotely familiar with Fire Emblem, I keep thinking of Tana (the character) as well as the actual in universe tea.

[hallow saddle]

i guess i keep thinking it's coffee because tanna is an irl island where they grow coffee

[rocky gale]

I think it's Tanna as in Tannins which are in tea

[fervent geode]

https://tenor.com/view/night-lord-warhammer-40k-space-marine-jamiroquai-virtual-insanity-gif-5727239661190188429

[limpid granite]

https://www.vxinstagram.com/p/DVvd0FOlARC/?igsh=MWViZ2ozZzZoN2Nlcg==

this is so peak

[raven stone]

New Demons?

[limpid granite]

kitbash i believe

[winter pine]

Average Inquisitor moments after getting sworn in with a new rosette https://youtu.be/H_6n0hdAs9I?si=Di3tbnETBkyHHFCB

[rose thorn]

It’s an AOS kitbash

[proven needle]

Is that like a justiciar apothecary? 🤔

He gives you the Emperor's mercy really well or something 😅

[rose thorn]

https://preview.redd.it/new-centaurion-marshal-for-warcry-v0-r42v7tt5xvx81.png?auto=webp&s=1fc2a565ce17a4768ba3b90a4e30036c7d4ab441

[proven needle]

No, no, the marine a bit more in the background.

[rose thorn]

OHHH