40k-lore-chat

[spring cairn]

i can take him

[limpid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/edsbald-gif-12613113539051000849

[storm jungle]

sorry Lambda, no one can stand against Freddy Mercury....

man poor Oliver

he doesnt know

[limpid granite]

Also the damian darkblood side story

Original to the show

[storm jungle]

yeah Kirkman said he wanted it in the comics but didnt have the time iirc?

[limpid granite]

Yah

[vagrant fox]

but is invincibles even good

[limpid granite]

So now its a side thing in the show which is extremely cool

[limpid granite]

Id say one of the better american comics

[lament shoal]

Did Epstein kill himself?

[limpid granite]

Invincible doesnt have issues with comics

Extremely convoluted story and no end

Invincible has its story with a clear start and ending

[vagrant fox]

It has a lot of trends I don't like but it wasn't bad

[rocky gale]

The Greentide cometh

[vagrant fox]

11e true

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/waaagh-orks-40k-dawn-of-war-warhammer-gif-4477293119107707240

[rocky gale]

The main character

[daring creek]

orks need to brush der teef

[rocky gale]

No

[opaque coyote]

Yeah and I also don't think that's bad.

But I think that more focus on characters like Frenchie are needed also.

Also this is awkward but I hope Homelander isn't a complete Trump stand-in. I hope the writers remember that he's his own character with different flaws than Trump.

I mean for one thing, I don't think he has fucked kids.

He has eaten a baby though if we go by the comics

[rocky gale]

I mean he actually didn't if we go by the comics

[opaque coyote]

The comics are bad

Yeah

[rocky gale]

His evil clone did

[limpid granite]

Akshuallyyyy

[opaque coyote]

Bro got gaslit into believing that he was a baby eater by Black Noir

[limpid granite]

Black noir did that

[opaque coyote]

God the comics are so fucking dumb

[flat nimbus]

I mean that reveal was probably one of the better bits

[limpid granite]

But didnt homelander then cry that he wasnt as evil as black noir?

[flat nimbus]

He had a breakdown earlier in the comic that he was struggling to do the evil things he had been blackmailed with pictures of himself doing

(Because they were actually unmasked Noir, who was also trying to drive him crazy so he could finally complete his purpose and kill him)

[limpid granite]

Never let garth ennis write again

[flat nimbus]

there are other reasons for that

some of them in The Boys!

[storm jungle]

The reveal/plot of it in generla is just so bad too

thanks again Ennis for building this up properly instead of focusing on nothing but SA scenes, sexism and racist humor

oh wait silly me

[rocky gale]

Gath Ennis "What if Professor X but he had sex with all the kids in his academy"

[opaque coyote]

That's just professor X

[storm jungle]

no

its not

[vagrant fox]

he was freaky asf with it

[storm jungle]

the only thing he was freaky with was Magneto

sorry guys

😔

[vagrant fox]

are you sure

[storm jungle]

yes

https://klipy.com/gifs/x-men-97-magneto

[opaque coyote]

Mostly exaggerated but in the early X-Men comics he had a weird crush on Jean

Who was underaged at the time. She was 16.

Also Ultimate Xmen

Don't read it, it's dogshit

[storm jungle]

thats literally every male comic character

lol

[opaque coyote]

Tbf yeah

The 60's were fucking weird

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

Also Magneto and Rogue but that's much less controversial

...despite the fucking 40 year age gap

But hey Rogue is over 18 so...

At least it isn't pedophilia

God the X-Men comics are so fucking weird istg

[celest dome]

How about we don't make it fair

[opaque coyote]

Although this was also comics

[celest dome]

I was already fucked at that time too

[opaque coyote]

Bruce Timm with Barbara and Bruce

Why

Mf makes good works but he is also a tier 1 Gooner

[celest dome]

Cause the writer/artist were old mens and liked oogling at young pretty womens

[queen laurel]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0noqba4q/breaking-news-ork-in-the-wild/

[opaque coyote]

This is gonna be the stupidest question I ever asked.

But y'know how Iron Man shots lasers out of his hand.

Has an Ork ever tried that but with a Power Klaw. I feel like it would be perfectly Orky to stick a shotgun in there that shoots if he punches somebody or something

That has a % chance to fucking explode

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/Mv1HZv25RKY

Lmao he just uploaded this video and he INSTANTLY addresses the issues you raised in the first minute of the video and presents a case against it

[queen laurel]

No official examples that I can think of but it's in the realm of something they will do

[opaque coyote]

Well now I guess I'll do it

[queen laurel]

new nobz i bet

[opaque coyote]

I'm gonna have an Ork Warboss basically shove a shotgun in their Power Klaw

Call him idk

Blamshoota Facekrumpa

[rocky gale]

Grabshoota Facesploda

[wintry cloud]

Witness it

Reposting this gem here incase anyone missed it

The cover art for AoS ultimate guide

[rose thorn]

I don’t like it tbh

[queen laurel]

You don't like anything not related to GSC and Grey knights

or necromunda

[rose thorn]

Lmao, I just don’t like the face

Maybe they are making them more British

That might be it

I am just use to the AoS orruk faces

[queen laurel]

look i understand where you're coming from but for an average run-of-the-mill basic bitch warboss this thing is very good

This for like you know the basic of basic leaders character is very good looking

[rose thorn]

I might just expect them to be more cartoony

[hallow saddle]

i love the grot

[languid meadow]

oh the leak was real lol

[wintry cloud]

Hes gorgeous

Love the triumphant pose

[jade holly]

Can a space marine chapter go renegade as a way to help the imperium outside of the rigid lines of the coded or Admech?

[winter pine]

Technically they could but they'll wither sooner than later without resupplying from the Administratum and Admech

[hallow saddle]

i dont know of any examples but sure. they'd have to keep a low profile tho

if its for an OC then u can deffo find some way to do it

[winter pine]

Everything in the Imperium is designed that eventually a renegade shrivels up and dies without external support from Terra

[hallow saddle]

like if the imperium has them as lost but actually theyre living in the eye of terror or something. scavenging stuff

[jade holly]

I had the idea of an IH chapter going renegade so they can expand on how they can construct weapons and modify themselves. Going near IW levels of modification and firepower

But they ultimately remain loyal, just stepping into the grey area to serve their own way

[hallow saddle]

they could have worked out an individual arrangement with some forge world

and if theyre in imperium nihilus then it might be hard to keep track of them

[winter pine]

Technically renegade Iron Hands chapter maintaining an under the table deal with the Mechanicus sounds pretty fun, I like that idea

[jade holly]

Only problem with that is they went renegade cause of the Admech…

So uhh, fucking whoops

[winter pine]

o

[jade holly]

Like the Admech’s rules on continuing to use the tech they have instead of trying to make new stuff made them feel like they weren’t able to be as useful as they could be

Eh, maybe I could make it so they have some sort of trade deal with a Votann League

[hallow saddle]

or a renegade Magos

[winter pine]

That'd be pretty fun too if the situation is really desperate

[arctic talon]

New warboss is cool

he's on the ugly side for orks

lol

[jade holly]

Is an Ork an Ork if he’s not da ugliest thing ever?

They care not for beauty of the self, only the beauty of the waaagh

Actually they use squigs as hair so maybe they do care

[winter pine]

Orks arguing about what shade of green is da best

[hallow saddle]

Rizz Energy

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[vital ginkgo]

Are there any known traitor chapters that do not care about chaos at all and have nothing to do with it? Like just renegades/pirates? People talk about the Night lords or iron warriors but even they use chaos quite a bit.

[hollow lantern]

Closest you get is the Ashen Claws

They're true renegades

A bunch of Terran RG exiled by Corax for being too brutal and slaverish

They don't have a lot of art at all

[hallow saddle]

what about the soul drinkers, although ive never read any of the books. are they like that

[daring creek]

Hell yeah

[daring creek]

I think the name is telling enough

[hollow lantern]

Not my area of expertise tbh, I just like the Ashen Claws ngl

Only true renegades ik of

[daring creek]

Ok

[hallow saddle]

yeah theyre cool

[daring creek]

They're renegades

[vagrant fox]

Soul Drinkers 2.0 are loyalists

[wintry scarab]

Is this new ogryn pack master based on a model?

[vagrant fox]

yea

[wintry scarab]

Cool

[hallow saddle]

Hounds of Xaphan with Khornate Ogryn Handler

[nocturne crest]

They got brought back as a primaris chapter after the OG sacrificed themselves.

[storm jungle]

Soul Drinkers go temporarily renegade for 1 book the nare back into the thing

they arent renegade-renegade

[limpid granite]

Does their primaris reinstatement suffer from the same mutations?

[storm jungle]

I dunno

[winter pine]

I think the Primaris Soul Drinkers are a whole different stock of geneseed that were just given the name

Otherwise entirely unrelated and shouldn't have the mutation problems

[nocturne crest]

Tbh, they're probably made with Dorn stock this time around.

[arctic talon]

No, they’re different stock. They’re actually IF genestock now

[fervent geode]

I think they were back then too, just not the whole chapter

[heady rivet]

I am COOKED

https://tenor.com/view/pibble-gif-16545691514915325021

I KNEW IT WAS HERE I HAD THIS INTERACTION

[plush mason]

ok BattleTech FTL in some ways makes 40k warp travel seem tame

[opaque coyote]

So apparently Sunfish can feel lonely

Like despite their tiny ass brain and having zero thoughts in those eyes

They still have emotions

[plush mason]

they dont travel to another place per say they just break the laws of reality

[opaque coyote]

To the point where they feel lonely and stop swimming out of depression

Idk what's more cruel.

The fact that even a Sunfish can feel depression and loneliness

Or the fact that we have the same thing

Just more complicated

[opaque coyote]

Because how they solved this is by basically having mannequins with people's faces taped on them

[plush mason]

one of the true constants of life is that nature is cruel

[opaque coyote]

Which fooled the sunfish into thinking it was being watched and wasn't alone anymore

Unfortunately we're not that stupid to have it be solved by that

...mostly anyways

[opaque coyote]

What evolutionary advantage does depression have good lord

God why?

Knowing how cruel nature is

If a soul exists

It's probably in the most simple animal

[plush mason]

no idea, it also might not

[heady rivet]

Should I play Signalis or Silent Hill 2 remake? I havent played either, but I played the OG Silent Hill 2

[plush mason]

disadvantage is also part of evolution, side effects and knock on consequences of the wild crucible of life

[opaque coyote]

Signalis

https://tenor.com/view/storch-signalis-signalis-meme-ough-sparkles-and-champagne-gif-16685708977773555960

[heady rivet]

This pact is sealed.

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/skibi-скиби-di-silly-gif-16896821283788121359

Jokes aside it's a good game

It's like if Silent Hill, the classic Resident Evils, and Nier Automata mixed together

[heady rivet]

Alright I'm launching a different game 🫡

[opaque coyote]

Also lesbians

But you're probably aware

A flag somebody brought in a Pride Parade in Seoul

But yeah the reason why the community mostly posts memes is because the game is fucking depressing

[plush mason]

why do i constantly watch creepy/horror stuff late at night?

[opaque coyote]

Best time for it

When there's nothing but dark

[plush mason]

not when you like sleep

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah true

It's like drugs.

Except it immediately goes to the withdrawl

[plush mason]

im 100% gona see the black marauder in my dreams if i sleep to now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtKS3GjAtzc

so you like mechs huh

[opaque coyote]

Well that looks wicked

[plush mason]

yeah but it is literally fucking cthulhu and tied to a lot of esoteric 4th demition shit involving the fact that the FTL drives literally rip the laws of physics apart every time they are used

[glass drum]

2 hours? dayum

[plush mason]

it kinda says a lot that the first thing they talk about is both fully real in the world of battle tech and the most tame, and thats the bio weapon that makes literally zombies that can somewhat drives mechs

[opaque coyote]

Did Cthulhu decide to pilot a mech

Or did they just shove him inside one

[plush mason]

yes

[opaque coyote]

Which one

[plush mason]

yes

[opaque coyote]

Cool

[plush mason]

lmao

[glass drum]

Great disccussion

[plush mason]

but seriously the story is ether a total myth or some unknowable being from beyond the walls of existence that hates humanity for using the FTL to break into their dimension

and figured the best way to punish them for that is to become a demonic version of one of the more powerful class of mechs

[opaque coyote]

"STOP FUCKING BREAKING INTO MY HOUSE I'M TRYING TO SLEEP"

[plush mason]

exactly

[opaque coyote]

Lowkey the funniest thing to imagine

Because to humans, it's probably a fucking nightmare

But in reality...

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-wake-up-wakey-wakey-awaken-gif-26734899

[glass drum]

Just another tuesday for the Imperium

[plush mason]

imo its even worse

at least in 40k traveling in the warp is treated with some fan fair and involves a lot of ritual and is simply traveling into a mirror of the existence you know, battle tech FTL is just a simple and totally mundane practice of shattering the very fabric of reality and not giving a damn what you pass through during mainly because for everyone on board the jump is instantaneous

so punch in the destination, hit the button and boom you are now on the other side of the galaxy in seconds

[glass drum]

I wont even quote the Daemonculabas cuz its so overdone

[opaque coyote]

Also

https://youtu.be/Lk_2vi30BPI?si=3pITGtsLgBwYNeFK

Enclave Soldiers experience a slice of Vietnam 312 years late

[languid meadow]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/ZMm6HVGRuK

I've literally never seen a vertibird in free roam before in 3

I did not know they could fly around and land for an event like that

[opaque coyote]

Yeah Vertibird dropoffs are a random encounter in Fo3

A Vertibird drops some enclave soldiers off and maybe a sentry bot

And then fucks off

Fo3 generally has some of the best random encounters ngl

Although because they're random

Sometimes players find interesting stuff

And sometimes you just encounter a pack of rad scorpions for the 82929192294th time

There's also some unique non-repeatable ones like a downed Chinese pilot

[languid meadow]

I did not know about the Chinese pilot either

Wtf

[opaque coyote]

Yeah there's a reason why I think Fo3 is still genuinely worth playing despite the writing being uh

Complete ass

Or at least the main quest writing

[languid meadow]

There is probably a video out there for every encounter so I'll find one tmr because I'm exhausted

[opaque coyote]

Yeah just search up fo3 random encounters

Some really interesting ones

[opaque coyote]

Also have a good rest

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/cirno-bee-reimu-fumo-touhou-gif-16924532949663392148

[oblique pond]

The Chinese submarine in FO4 was a really cool find

[mossy peak]

does every primarch have a named space marine sidekick

dante, typhus, kharn, erebus, abbadon

[fervent geode]

Dante never met sanguinius

[spare osprey]

Seems like each of them has a 'herald' character of sorts, yeah.
Mostly the dead-dead ones or the fallen ones.

[fervent geode]

Most of these youve mentioned are basically senior officers or equerries

Calas Typhon was the XIVth Legion First Captain

[spare osprey]

Do the Iron Hands have any headpiece character?

[fervent geode]

Ezekyle Abaddon was Horus' First Captain

[fervent geode]

Close to Ferrus?

First Captain Gabriel Santar

Killed by First Captain Iulius Kaesoron on Isstvan V

[spare osprey]

Ah.
It appears the Traitor headpieces are far more iconic/worth mentioning.
Except maybe Sigusmund.

[fervent geode]

Khârn was Angron's Equerry

[fervent geode]

Yeah Sigismund was the First Captain of the Fists

Also close to Dorn was the Commander of his Huscarl Guard

Archamus

Erebus was the First Chaplain of the Word Bearers

Although tbf

Lorgar had several favoured figures at several points of time

First was First Captain Kor Phaeron, Master of the Faith, followed by First Chaplain Erebus, he later favoured Argel Tal, Crimson Lord of the Gal Vorbak

[spare osprey]

Is Kor Phaeron also kicking around still?

[fervent geode]

His final favoured was the Crimson Apostle of the Ochre Gate, Zardu Layak

[fervent geode]

Yeap

He recently fought the Imperium in the Talledus War

[spare osprey]

That guy's a dick!
(Putting it mildly).

[fervent geode]

You put it very mildly

[spare osprey]

Anywho.
What's going on between Corvus hunting for Lorgar in the Warp?
Has anything come of that? Is Lorgar chilling in some Super-Warp tower or is he on the run?

[fervent geode]

Corvus has either failed for 10k years or fled

Take your pick

[spare osprey]

Well that blows.

[fervent geode]

Lorgar is generally on Sicarus, sometimes he leaves to lead Dark Crusades

As of 8e

He can also speak people to death now

Literally

[spare osprey]

I want to believe in my silly pale bird-man, but my Primarchslop is a nothingburger.

[fervent geode]

Lorgar fought him twice, knowing Corvus is prophecised to kill him.

[spare osprey]

-# I must resign myself in researching grapnel tech for my homebrew guard bois.

[fervent geode]

This is the Primarchslop endless woke bearers have died for

[spare osprey]

Really??
Neat!

[fervent geode]

And I mean Lorgar really fucked up his face the first time

Also the 2nd time they fought the words Deny Fate appeared in his tower iirc

Must mean smth ig

[spare osprey]

All the wise/indigent oldheads will die off before the stories of the Primarchs end.

I just want Angron to finally die.

[fervent geode]

He never will probably

[spare osprey]

Yeah...

[fervent geode]

That fate was stolen from him in the sands of Nuceria

[spare osprey]

The child of the mountain...

Pre-heresy stuff is so neat, man.

[mossy peak]

my primarchslop is awesomesauce

[spare osprey]

I'll bricc you if you're a spoiled Guilliman fan.

[fervent geode]

Word Bearer or Night Lord call it

[spare osprey]

-# Night Lords reek more than Nurgie followers.

[fervent geode]

They have 7 books of goodslop

Or so im told

[spare osprey]

I've only ever heard of the Death of Saints.
Other than that, I'd just be happy if any of 'em get shot.

[fervent geode]

Kol Rakhul was in a Morvenn Vahl book lmao

Kol Badar was better anyway

[vagrant fox]

Rakhul was very funny though

[fervent geode]

Funniest guy covered in sororitas skulls award winner

[mossy peak]

i like angron c:

[mossy peak]

i’ve never seen a night lord fan

fake legion

[fervent geode]

I think we have two here?

[fervent geode]

But thats impressive, afaik there's quite a few of them

[winter pine]

Don't know if I'm a fan of the Night Lords but I do like the standard attitude they've got of just being in it purely for themselves

No allegiance to the corpse emperor or the chaos gods, just skinning chumps for the love of the game

[wary fulcrum]

Bjorn?

[spare osprey]

A Space Wolf.
I purposefully try to wipe them from my memory.

[lament shoal]

Some of them do dabble in chaos

[civic gale]

hi

please someone explain ratlings to me

[storm jungle]

Hobbits

also good snipers

thats it really

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ratling

Anything else you need is on here

[surreal nest]

Highly subjugated oppressed abhumans with big hairy feet and a knack for reconnaissance and precision

[civic gale]

dully noted

i just found cute artwork of abhumans

needless to say im quite obessed with them now

[storm jungle]

Yeah most fanart doesnt really showcase abhumans in an accurate way in favor of making them cute.

[civic gale]

why ofc it wouldnt

[surreal nest]

They have an amazing killteam

Get at it

[storm jungle]

Also that

food too

and sausages

[storm jungle]

"omg my lil blorbo ratlings"

Literally hairy ass Welsh shortman

[opaque coyote]

Also 90% of them don't even have pictures.

Only descriptions at best.

[civic gale]

yeh lmao

[storm jungle]

They do lol

Ratlings got like over 15+ artworks

i know being i collected most of them for the lexi

[opaque coyote]

I meant like abhumans in general

[fervent geode]

What's a longshanks look like tho that's the realdeal

[storm jungle]

We dont know

they are just tall abhumans

their name is literally an IRL slang for a tall person lol

[fervent geode]

Im gonna assume a bunch of basketballers thanks

[storm jungle]

Lebron james

scream if you love darktide

🗣️

[civic gale]

apperantly they are abnormally tall?

idk

[fervent geode]

🗣️ 🗣️

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

The Imperium are jealous because they ain't them

[fervent geode]

But we've never seen one

[opaque coyote]

[civic gale]

im confused if in the artwork the big girl is an ogryn because the longshank is just...way taller

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Longshank

Literally all we have is on this page which uhhh isnt a lot

[storm jungle]

Ogryns are built like wrestlers

aka THICK

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-screaming-lebron-james-yelling-nba-lebron-james-screaming-gif-2259314201606716528

[storm jungle]

Longshanks are suppose to be super tall people, again they dont mater so we dont know much else

[fervent geode]

Explains why the Black Templars killed a bunch, couldn't get as tallmaxx as them

[civic gale]

the artwork got a part of it which may make it nsfw and i do not want to test my luck

[fervent geode]

Yeah ive been there before

[storm jungle]

the artist you are looking at got slammed by the fandom for drawing rape/gore art of said abhumans so

LOL

[civic gale]

mossa?

[fervent geode]

Oh jeez

[opaque coyote]

Eithet way 90% of abhumans don't even have any images.

So artists usually go nuts with those lmao

[storm jungle]

Yeah lmao

she also got ousted from most 40k artspaces

[opaque coyote]

Oh dear

[civic gale]

💀

[fervent geode]

True lol

[storm jungle]

because her art is creepy af

[civic gale]

why is it when i find a cute art piece

those mfs always do some weird shit with their other works

[opaque coyote]

Let it be known that artists are often freaky

[storm jungle]

Freaks will be freaks idk

[opaque coyote]

Not all of them are

[storm jungle]

Mossa is just way up there

hate that dipshit

[civic gale]

it is a cute piece

the one that isnt

.... that

[opaque coyote]

Yeah just like that particular piece

Ignore everything else

[civic gale]

if the artist is like that

[opaque coyote]

Unless if you don't feel comfortable about it

[civic gale]

i already despise them

[opaque coyote]

Then just don't

[civic gale]

however

i may despite the artist and like one of their works

an exception

[storm jungle]

Beats me. I always found Mossa's art creepy and offputting.

[civic gale]

cuz this is very cute

[opaque coyote]

Either way it's your decision

This ain't twitter

[storm jungle]

Im also vehemently largely against making abhumans cute when you know their lore so thats just me lol

[fervent geode]

Hear hear

[civic gale]

its just the artpiece where all the abhumans are together

[civic gale]

yknow what?

that is an extremely fair point

[opaque coyote]

I LOVE MARGINALIZATION AND RACISM!

[storm jungle]

Its fine if you wanna enjoy it obvs its more that like

people forget abhumans in the Imperium are literally treatd like subhuman scum

"abhuman" itself literally means Abnormal Human

they literally teach these guys prayers that reminds them that they are "unworthy freaks"

💀

[fervent geode]

I mean the Imperium already treats normal humans beyond ass so one can scarcely imagine what they endure that we aren't shown

I'm pretty sure Beastmen are taught to pray to be sorry to God-Emperor that they exist

[opaque coyote]

There's also a dialogue in Darktide where a Zealot tells the Ogryn that he doesn't believe he has a soul.

[storm jungle]

I BARELY hear that anymore

but yeah

[opaque coyote]

I don't remember the exact dialogue but it always was one of my favorites cause ofc shit like this would be believed by some

[storm jungle]

Returning to the subject tho its why I recommend reading the Ratlings lexicanum page, me and my friend put some bits in there showing how Ratlings are aware of this and are one of the reasons why they are tightly knit as a sub-species of human.

They always look after each other evne when they get abused.

They live with a very hard existence

[opaque coyote]

Beastmen are one of the few things ported over from Fantasy that's actually improved in 40k

[fervent geode]

Barely

[storm jungle]

^

They are largely the same lol

[fervent geode]

From all murdered to some severely oppressed

[rocky gale]

They only seem improved because nobody ever talks about them

[civic gale]

Yeh I know that much

I may not be the best when it comes to Warhammer lore follower

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but at least their literal base nature isn't being murderers

So there's that

[fervent geode]

Either way Imperial Beastmen still live shitty lives that either end in slave like conditions or dying in some ass battle

[opaque coyote]

[civic gale]

But I just like cute stuff

[storm jungle]

In that case its propaganda time

[opaque coyote]

Also I think they're now classified as mutants

[storm jungle]

Get this book and audio drama

[fervent geode]

True enough yeah

[storm jungle]

it has a ratling protagonist Baggit and his BFF Clodde an ogryn

[solid horizon]

frodo baggit

[civic gale]

LMAO

[opaque coyote]

In general though I like Beastmen in general.

IDC if it makes me a furry.

Goat people are cool

[fervent geode]

They are someplaces iirc, some still serve in the Militarum and Frateris

[storm jungle]

It flipflops, doesnt really matter. Beastmen are hated.

[fervent geode]

Real

[solid horizon]

I dont like beastmen

[storm jungle]

they are pretty beasty, men.

[surreal nest]

Their killteam is insanely fun

[civic gale]

Since yee know the art piece

Question

What's the race of the doom demon like character

[storm jungle]

Doom demon?

[queen laurel]

what doom demon, can you get us an example?

[opaque coyote]

Does it look like a goat

Have any goat like features

Hooves n shit

[civic gale]

Dis

[opaque coyote]

Abhuman Cacodemon

[storm jungle]

thats a Beastman

[civic gale]

Thank yee

[opaque coyote]

Beastman

[storm jungle]

Lmao the "CUNT" on the crotchshield

[vagrant fox]

ouogh not mossa

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

dont worry Sigsen we took em through it

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah, that art was weird

[storm jungle]

Its realistic tbh, just should be anyone but Mossa

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Beastman

[opaque coyote]

Anyways I sleep now

Gn

https://tenor.com/view/niko-niko-oneshot-pancakes-crying-explosion-gif-16934504460373716036

[rocky gale]

I think that's the edited version which removes the tally marks

[storm jungle]

YEET

[vagrant fox]

no they're there

[storm jungle]

But yeah Beastmen are basically mutant goat humans

[civic gale]

We've been over this it's just this one piece I'm sorry

[storm jungle]

they are treated even worse than most abhumans

[wary fulcrum]

I dunno if sex trafficked beastmen is realistic like

[vagrant fox]

dw visceral reaction

[limpid granite]

so mutated that theyre considered chaos tainted

[storm jungle]

It is. We got examples of abhumans being trafficked in Crime, humans are despicable freaks.

[storm jungle]

Its more just racism.

[solid horizon]

are there abhumans that look just like bigfoot, aside from really hairy ogryns

[storm jungle]

not really no

[solid horizon]

sadge

[wary fulcrum]

Aren’t they GSC?

[civic gale]

Last question about the art piece... is this also a beastman?

[vagrant fox]

Unless... You make your own

[storm jungle]

They're Nightsiders

[queen laurel]

nah Abhumans are basically recognize as stable offshoots of humanity

[storm jungle]

No idea on that one

[civic gale]

Hmmm

[spare osprey]

Their art is absolutely goated.
Grotesque and grungy down to the pixel. Mortifying skill.
But yeah... Jesus.

[civic gale]

Gotcha

[wary fulcrum]

The short story with the bald heads and brow ridges?

[vagrant fox]

I think it's their take on a nightsider

[civic gale]

💀

[limpid granite]

that i know but beastmen are basically so mutated that they arent seen as abhumans anymore but outright chaos creations

[storm jungle]

nah the one im talking about is THE first story on the Crime anthology

[civic gale]

Again sorry for bringing the artist up

[storm jungle]

they specifically make clear its nightsiders

[limpid granite]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bearded-dragon-googly-eyes

[storm jungle]

Its fine its mostly "AW GOD" you arent in trouble lol

[rocky gale]

Yea, that's how the artist depicts Nightsiders

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah, they’re in the container?

Well I didn’t need an excuse for a reread but I’ll always take one, I had it as GSC

[spare osprey]

We have survived the momentary reminder.

[storm jungle]

Yeah nah the "oh shit" reveal is more that they are traficking abhumans

the protagonist has to come over his racism for them

its a very good Short

[civic gale]

thanks lass

[vagrant fox]

There was a whole rigamarole with Mossa and it was very tedious, dw dw

[wary fulcrum]

Isn’t he

||the Tzeentch cultist? Is that not his first story?||

[opaque coyote]

The protagonist fighting his racism

[civic gale]

now i kinda want a ratling

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-dragon-ball-hey-no-stop-dont-do-it-just-calm-down-gif-23823773

[storm jungle]

[civic gale]

from what i read

[storm jungle]

Different guy i think

[solid horizon]

this is a reminder that warhammer is fiction

[civic gale]

they are incredible marksman?

[storm jungle]

Go to bed

[storm jungle]

Fiction often mirrors reality

[wary fulcrum]

Hobbitses

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^^^

[civic gale]

wha

[storm jungle]

Ratlings are literally based on Hobbits

[civic gale]

oh

[solid horizon]

ratlings are based

[storm jungle]

short, hair feet, etc

[civic gale]

interesting

[wary fulcrum]

Love a good cook out

[solid horizon]

40k half men

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah that too

[spare osprey]

I think the only criticism I wanna voice about the cool artist you chose for your pfp is that I think their art has a bit of a... same-face syndrome?
-# And that I can't remember they GOD DAMN name.
Other than that, good shit.

[storm jungle]

cooking good food is like a big hobbit trope

[civic gale]

same face syndron?

[solid horizon]

they have this mini where the ratling is handing a sausage and booze to the other ratling

[wary fulcrum]

Mugs of tea on their kit packs I think

[limpid granite]

jolly fellow

[wary fulcrum]

Is that Ramspuddle Bolthalfton?

[solid horizon]

idk

iirc it's an anniversary model or something

not actually playable

[wary fulcrum]

(Ramsey Bolton, reek, puddles are smaller than seas, half a ton

My genius is wasted here)

[vagrant fox]

Faces tend to look very similar if not the same for artists with same face syndrome, but anime style faces don't tend to change much in some styles

[spare osprey]

As a non-artist (yet) I've only heard it in passing.
The face of eery gal in their art oddly... looks the same. Same format? Like an anime.

I think it's the eyes.

But, that doesn't detract on the art being enjoyable.

[civic gale]

i just like cute stuff

[spare osprey]

-# Yeh, what he said.

[civic gale]

even where cute stuff shoulnd't be present

aka the grim dark of the future

[spare osprey]

Space Maids.
:]

[vagrant fox]

It's not for me but there's room for it

[rocky gale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dante-based

[spare osprey]

I will save my curvy women and people with melanin argument for the SM2 community.
I hear they are nothing but dorks.

[civic gale]

anyways i have done my research (despite maybe being too much research by accident) i hsall return to general chat

[rocky gale]

A fate worse than death

[paper haven]

Horrifying

[solid horizon]

most SM2 fans know nothing about warhammer in general

[wary fulcrum]

I keep having to explain to them that Carcharadon’s probably don’t have shark teeth

[spare osprey]

When I don't know lore...
I ask.
Or watch Mr. Bones.

[solid horizon]

when they happen to know slightly about warhammer lore

it's repeated over and over cliches

[vagrant fox]

I've seen a bunch whinge about not getting the row of shark teeth around the gorget

[solid horizon]

"muehehe the tau xeno fear humans because of how old they are"

"muehehehe blood ravens steal everything"

[spare osprey]

The SM2 losers have a There are no blacks on Fenris crowd.

Fuck 'em.
I will play the game with my pals.

[wary fulcrum]

Yes but they’re ignorant of the lore

None of the space Wolf marines are white

Canonically

Their skin is dark and leathery

[spare osprey]

That's... news to me!

[solid horizon]

dont salamanders also have grey skin

[wary fulcrum]

When they’re old it goes grey

[solid horizon]

epic

wait

don't quote me on that

I just realised I said "epic" about salamanders

[vagrant fox]

published artwork

Some of them are black

[solid horizon]

space wolves when you ask them why their leader is a tank

[spare osprey]

-# Whoever that is, I am SWOONING, BABY--

[wary fulcrum]

Didn’t say they weren’t

The Krakendoom’s*, weirdly, have been black for about twenty years

Marc is a friend of a friend, Mark Anthony, the skjald referenced in the acknowledgements, is a close friend

[wary fulcrum]

Ivar Krakenblood

It’s decent so far, I’m about 6 chapters in

[spare osprey]

-# Gimme-gimme-gummie-gimme--

[wary fulcrum]

Oh, incidentally, the Walking Forge Binyamen mentioned in the Executioners short is actually a real bloke called Benjamin who can paint a 2k army to a stupidly high standard in about 3 evenings

[storm jungle]

The other thing is also i feel like people have no idea of this thing "populace intermixing"

[spare osprey]

-# Mixed kids will inherit the Earth.

Anyway.

Good night everyone.

[storm jungle]

[wary fulcrum]

Oh no, a planet has one culture and one race across the whole thing, there’s no such thing as environmental factors

[storm jungle]

KEK

[wary fulcrum]

Like the planet being on fire for a year

[storm jungle]

Dont tell these people who base this shit on "all vikings being white" that Vikings literally mixed with like anyone from Europe, Asia to the British isles btw

[solid horizon]

as if warhammer was supposed to be accurate to human history anyways

space marines are tube grown muties

[wary fulcrum]

vikings - 6 foot tall dudes who exercised all day, washed frequently and ate fantastically (comparatively) and travelled the world extensively for the time

Only ever slept with white women

[storm jungle]

Yeah like ignoring IRL for a sec and focusing on the fiction

• We literally are never told Fenris' population is solely paleskinned people, more realistic considering they are literally descendants of colonists who could be of any ethnicity imaginable.
• Fenris' entire population pre-Rift got fucking liquidated, so anyone else they brought freshly mindwiped to be locals would now be even MORE intermixed.

[vagrant fox]

are you saying the british aren't hwite

[rocky gale]

What happened to the guy who argued for like a straight week that all Space Marines would become white due to one of implanted organs changing their skin colour to adapt to the environment?

[spare osprey]

Someone stab my Texas buddy over this before I gut him myself, please.
-# Cleep time.

[storm jungle]

I think he just left LMAO

[solid horizon]

what if space wolves were jamaican

[misty vector]

Why would that turn them white lol

[rocky gale]

Yea

[wary fulcrum]

we were told in 2nd ed that their skin tanned and became leathery as they aged, Haakon in Blackmane is descriped as being leathery (but i cant remember if he's dark)

fifth ed introduced Engir Krakendoom, and brought in a (for me) polynesian aspect (south islanders, descriped as being dark

and the planet is literally worse than equitorial earth for 270-350 of their 700 day year.

[storm jungle]

Yeah again these people just do not fucking read lol

THIS ISNT SCANDINAVIA

ITS A FUCKING JURASSIC WORLD ICE PLANET

IT DOESNT MATTER

🗣️

[solid horizon]

hell yeah

[storm jungle]

like no matter how much you argue it literally just boils down to racism

which is kinda tiring

lol

[solid horizon]

just because SM are space supremacists people assume they are also white power

[storm jungle]

yeah that

i saw people assuming Ultramarines geneseed makes you white and blonde lmao

[wary fulcrum]

fucken word

like, the lore has been this way for decades

Them not knowing this doesn't make it a retcon, it makes them ignorant of the lore

[solid horizon]

isnt that

blood angels

[storm jungle]

Blood angels one makes you pretty

not white lol

[solid horizon]

yeah but like

every blood angel is depicted all dandy and aryan

[storm jungle]

Thats mostly for marketing

but that is a very good point

we've never seen a visual black BA i think LOL

they deffo exist because GW has never stuck to "geneseed changes your ethnicity" thing, so its deffo them just forgetting.

[solid horizon]

would blade be a blood angel

or a night lord

[vagrant fox]

I think Ive seen one but it's also likely to have been fanart

[wary fulcrum]

people like to assume that some gene seed mutations apply to all chapters.

SW gene seed doesn't make them wolf like, thats the canis helix.
Salamanders get the skin and eyes, but thats an overreactive organ.

I think Raven Guard and Sons of Horus both have gene seed mutations that might change the way you look over time

[storm jungle]

He hunts vampires so idk

[wary fulcrum]

so does Talos of the Night Lords to be fair

[storm jungle]

yeah we also got artwork showing Salamanders who look like a caucasian dude, asian or a black person respectively

i think ive only ever seen Arbitrator Ian point this out which is funny

[solid horizon]

"I met the emperor and she was black" ahh

caucasian salamnders could work like what

20 years ago ?

[wary fulcrum]

its my bug bear when people do fan castings

Like, Vulkan isn't racially black, he's physically the font colour black, like, Black 2.0. The whole chapter are obsidian black.

So casting him as a black guy is cool but isn't quite accurate

(especially when it's always the Japanese Ken Wanatabe as the culturally mongolian Khan)

[solid horizon]

when the lore wasnt as established as it is now

[storm jungle]

I mean caucasian as in he literally looks like a normal person

they all still got the coal-black skin

(also salamanders literally first started with no pitchblack skin)

[vagrant fox]

This was official at least

might be shading

[storm jungle]

Its funny because even GW cannot settle on whether hes just some bald guy or african descent because audiobooks make him sound like James Earl Jones from Coming to America lol

[storm jungle]

huh nevermind

[wary fulcrum]

part of me does think meme's bleed into GW creative like

[vagrant fox]

definitely, see nu-saturnine

[wary fulcrum]

so we have massive over representation of fringe cases

Like a few months back we were talking about how Gaunt and Caine and are actually pretty shit Commissars, and we have few representations of actual commissars

[storm jungle]

Its not memes persay, if you watch Ian's vid on the subject he has asked people like Gav Thrope and there WAS ideas on making Salamanders with some "african descent" hints but that isnt too enforced apparently

[storm jungle]

Also it was less memes dictating that

more just uhhh

GW saw EVERYONE referring to it as Saturnine

and went

"hey lets go with it it will make us more money"

which i respect

id do the same shit

lmao

[solid horizon]

I might recall incorrectly but

[vagrant fox]

remember this guy

[solid horizon]

didnt the deathwing use to be native americans ?

[storm jungle]

Correct

but like WAYYYYYYYYYYYY back

[wary fulcrum]

maybe not in this case, but stuff like Tyberos' whole design point being changed because a BL author liked the fan art

[solid horizon]

yeah

[vagrant fox]

Way yonder back

[rocky gale]

Behold

I painted them, it's canon now

[vagrant fox]

they got that trump tan going

[storm jungle]

bastard 😔

[solid horizon]

too bad it didnt stay and instead we got space gay protestants

[storm jungle]

i mean

ill take that over Natives being portrayed as paranoid fascist mass-murderers

they got genocided enough i think lol

[vagrant fox]

Didn't really fit that well either with the rest of the DA

[solid horizon]

true true

[storm jungle]

Yeah true enough. Because fandom really does dictate canon at times.

[solid horizon]

but it could also be a reference to the natives conscripted in the civil war

[storm jungle]

I guess

[wary fulcrum]

i'd love to know the answer to how that came about in the first place

But in my heart i know the answer is cocaine

[storm jungle]

but idk not my case to judge

[storm jungle]

Correct

[vagrant fox]

The 80s were just like that

[storm jungle]

warhammer is literally built on like

"hey this looks cool"

yoink

[wary fulcrum]

Angron being a door man called Angry Ron is my favourite

i'm not sure it's true, but it's my favourite

[storm jungle]

Its not but like

hes called Angron

not exactly the peak form of creativity as is

lol

[solid horizon]

probably most of the stuff in warhammer

how exactly did we go from terminator and bootleg ed 209 to space curse of the pharaoh egyptian skellies

[paper haven]

My head canon is the TTS voice for Vulkan

[storm jungle]

As said above "it looks cool"

[storm jungle]

Jamaican man? I guess lol

[spare osprey]

-# Ferrus Maaanus which is Iron Hand in Latin in charge of his Iron HAAANDS--

[storm jungle]

I love how mad IH fans get when you mention this

just accept your fucking primarch has a dumbass name

everyone does lmao

[solid horizon]

all primarchs have dumbass names

[storm jungle]

Yeah literally

they are comic book characters

[spare osprey]

Fulgrim kinda cool, though...

[solid horizon]

I always call perturabo peter turbo because somehow it makes him sound less silly

[storm jungle]

Perturabo is also just "PERTURBED"

[paper haven]

I know it's probably not canon but I don't care because GW themselves can't seem to figure it out

[spare osprey]

I never got that. Thank you.

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/_u_nsUds7Jw

Highly recommend this vid its a great watch

[solid horizon]

lionel johnson is extra gay

[spare osprey]

Yes.... gimme.

[paper haven]

Oh, I actually thought Perturabo had an alright name because I couldn't tell what word it was ripping off

[storm jungle]

its KIND of a baggage

Ian covers it very well

its likely also inspired by a weird ass british author

[solid horizon]

y'know they could have named him Perturabos instead

to fit the greek theme thingy

[paper haven]

Perturbaro

[solid horizon]

perturbator

[paper haven]

Perturbaos

[spare osprey]

Perpetrator.

[solid horizon]

Penetrator

[paper haven]

Do any primarchs have normal names?

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

Lionel Johnson is the only one

also Magnus

[paper haven]

I thought it was Lion El Johnson

[storm jungle]

thats the 40k copyright version lmao

[paper haven]

Like, lion the Johnson

[storm jungle]

nah its Lionel

[paper haven]

Oh, that's less fun

[storm jungle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Johnson

they really tried to modify the Johnson part to be El'Jonson

lmao

[paper haven]

They named the authurian knight guy after a celt?

[solid horizon]

when I was a kid I thought marneus calgar was the leader of ultramarines

[storm jungle]

To be fair he basically was

[solid horizon]

because I didnt know gulliman existed

calgar on the shitter is arguably more charismatic

[shadow plover]

he was properly too until Guilliman returned

[storm jungle]

^

reminder that in the 5th codex it literally says Guilliman is dead

and his corpse is on the altar

[paper haven]

Well Gulliman didn't do a very good job anyway

[solid horizon]

aura farming on the shitter

[storm jungle]

let him COOK

[vagrant fox]

bring this look back

[paper haven]

Cook the adjective or the verb?

[solid horizon]

I also recall trying to read one of those warhammer books when I was little but it was very tough for little wee man me to read

so the only thing i remembered was that calgar loves wine

[paper haven]

My first 40k book was Storm of Iron

Followed by Dawn of war

[spare osprey]

Fucking BEAKIES--
-# I can't sleep to save my LIFE.

[vagrant fox]

I strongly doubt it but I wonder being the educated sops the GW leadership was back yonder when if Angron has anything to do with Agrion from Greek, wild and fierce

strongly doubt it though

[vagrant fox]

closing your eyes helps

[shadow plover]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/p/DVMcpn1kcoX/

I prefer this one..

[solid horizon]

naaah

not the smurf emperor lookalike bill clinton calgar

[shadow plover]

I hate how poor instagram is with their image resolutions

I'd love to see this work in HD

[wary fulcrum]

i could definitely see that to be fair

The Lion being a reference to a poem (the rock isn't a nightclub though, at least not in nottingham)

GW do love word play in names,

Erik Morkai, his brother Irnst the Wise

theres a lot less of that these days and it saddens me

Or i'm too old to get the references (thought Hive Secundus has a beautiful Aliens "nuke it from orbit" reference in Necromunda)

[cerulean trellis]

tiny head

[shadow plover]

as god intended

tiny head is the peak space marine aesthetic

[cerulean trellis]

fair

so logn we agree the new sororitas modells are mroe pleasing and less: melon sized boob plates

well cuzrrent... i got no clue how old they are

[shadow plover]

well they're relatively recent, from 2019 or something

but like the art by Adrian Smith is peak space marines

even if it's a bit silly

[vagrant fox]

What makes me think otherwise is that Khârn is just the first bit of carnage

[vagrant fox]

correct

I've brought removing boob plates in certain circles up before and got my entire skin stolen

[cerulean trellis]

at least the current ones are more decent

honestly with the armor parts in DT i love that the ladies just have fricking armor

[wary fulcrum]

the 500 worlds have that Greek/Roman aesthetic though, Agrion fits with it

You might not have convinced yourself but you've convinced me!

[cerulean trellis]

got a friend that wears chainmail to renfairs and even her ginormous boobies get flattened by it

[solid horizon]

too bad john darktide is very skinny

for someone who constantly runs around and carries guns n stuff he/she has very thin arms

[vagrant fox]

malnutrition is bad for building muscle

[wary fulcrum]

isnt that Joan Darktide?

[solid horizon]

john/joan

[wary fulcrum]

the Imperium cares not for names, only that they die in it's glory

[solid horizon]

both john and joan are skinny

[wary fulcrum]

they got that lean hunting dog vibe

[solid horizon]

then there is bob darktide which I assume eats a lot since he keeps bragging about it

[vagrant fox]

I assume they got that lean skinny deceptively strong farmer thing going on

[solid horizon]

yeah but if youre going more catachan style its a bit disappointing

[cerulean trellis]

i mean they are not pumped up btu they got their strength for sure

[solid horizon]

a mass slider could be nice

[cerulean trellis]

i always foudn that the catachans are a bit to pumped

they look like they do body building

[solid horizon]

Imean they are a reference to predator and 80s action movies

contra but in warhammer

[limpid granite]

let me be a beefed up pit gladiator

[limpid granite]

i mean

it makes sense

[vagrant fox]

It would be ice, I want my arbiter built like a brick shithouse

[wary fulcrum]

i'd love a pit gladiator

melee weapon is a bionic

[cerulean trellis]

fair, fair

[limpid granite]

most dangerous planet in the galaxy has roided up warriors

[solid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-fire-gun-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-15046237

[wary fulcrum]

like that Necromunda Pit Fighter with the chainsword arm

[vagrant fox]

I like my malnourished scum tiny and lean though

[solid horizon]

it works for hive scum

[limpid granite]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dillion-predator

[vagrant fox]

yea

[solid horizon]

but what about veteran

[vagrant fox]

For now I've just been using height to play with it, scum is the smallest and arbiter is the tallest for me

[cerulean trellis]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Rambo-rambo-efn8Gilna2C7bzi0Tl

[limpid granite]

i want my scum to be a brick wall

still a ash wastes shock spear wouldnt dissapoint

[oblique pond]

Catachan are bad ass

[vagrant fox]

A feature for Darktide 2

[solid horizon]

they suck ass on tabletop

[wary fulcrum]

i hope Ash Waste Nomads dont get added, i couldnt afford it

[solid horizon]

I assume it is a reference to how much the marines suck ass in predator

[cerulean trellis]

tbh fem scum hits all the right places

[oblique pond]

I don't think they were marines

[solid horizon]

yeah because everyone knows guards are that good at melee

[limpid granite]

mah cyber gladiator

[wary fulcrum]

needas more bionics

but i love

[limpid granite]

i also love the power cross spear

[cerulean trellis]

exactly ^^

[solid horizon]

meanwhile the models james workshop has abandonned for multiple decades

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-hubert-farnsworth-eyes-gif-3592844138789763180

[wary fulcrum]

absolute peak, no notes needed

[solid horizon]

wanna see peak

[wary fulcrum]

the only issue is painting the eyes

Those catachan have anime eyes because if a person was so far away from you they looked that big, you wouldn't be able to see any of their eyes

[solid horizon]

testosterone fueled photo

[wary fulcrum]

i just felt my beard grow

[solid horizon]

the catachan models are tiny now

[wary fulcrum]

i have one of the captains somewhere

excellent model

[solid horizon]

I have an oldcron and theyre tiny compared to today's minis

I wanted to build a catachan army but an unfortunate game on TTS forever broke my heart with them

[wary fulcrum]

i did an army with them back when they used a grid on the table to plant traps

Never got a game in but by golly i had fun building it

[solid horizon]

I wanna get pretorians and orks but

Im afraid it's not exactly politically correct

used to main them on modded dawn of war

educated orks are peak

🗣️ 🔥 🔥 ‼️ LOBSTAH

[wary fulcrum]

i supposed GW could always swap the pith for a shako?

[solid horizon]

the pith is what sold them to me

because

https://tenor.com/view/zulu-dance-night-boat-to-cairo-gif-19990828

I might try to get 7 pretorians and kitbash them instruments for my non-purposed mini collection

[wary fulcrum]

that is a good argument to be fair

[wary fulcrum]

i'm working on a doof warrior at the minute, trying to get the bitz to build his giant speaker container

https://klipy.com/gifs/pizza-cryptocurrency-4

[solid horizon]

lol nice

do you think noise marines play deep purple

[wary fulcrum]

i think they play Friday

https://klipy.com/gifs/friday-gotta-get-down

[celest cedar]

what are the tommies doing

[celest cedar]

we need this

[celest cedar]

I grew up in Nottingham, closest GW being Warhammer World. As a throne city kids, we knew the legend of ‘Angry Ron’ who was a grumpy bouncer known around the city in the 80s/90s. Apparently, that’s where Angron derives his name. LOL

[surreal nest]

Tbh these models honestly arent bad its just the paint job

[wary fulcrum]

word

Proportions are a little mental, but then they're kind of meant to be

But i liked the old marauders too so i clearly can't be trusted

[surreal nest]

Liking the old marauders should in fact get you annihilated

I cant believe I havent even painted one of the new Marauders

I got the box for Christmas and everything

[wary fulcrum]

i wasn't sure if the minis were bad or just old, got 40 of them and did two separate colour schemes and yeah, they're just old

if my local had the new ones in stock i'd have them in a heart beat, i need more Dark Oath tribes

got 5 so far (20 minis each, different schemes)

[solid horizon]

yeah but in comparison with newer minis they are midgets

dont get me wrong I like them too

[surreal nest]

They are trying their hardest

Leave my manlet catachans ALONE

https://tenor.com/view/fight-me-fight-sklet-skeleton-gif-12424596002707679541

[cerulean trellis]

catachan beign in between stouts and humans confirmed?

(bad joke, sry i'll see myself out)

[solid horizon]

I love my firstborn chaos manlets

back when legs were a single piece

then theres the shovel knight fellas from space crusade

[wary fulcrum]

nowadays when the lower leg is 4 pieces

[solid horizon]

real

[queen fern]

they really need to go back to this fucken hell

also the 2 handed weapons

i got shield and guns guys rn and its such a bitch to get the gun at the correct spot for the shield

[wary fulcrum]

Necromunda swooping in once again (not Van Saar, ew)

house Orlock, one mini, 4 pieces, and a single bit

(two arms, head, body, pouch)

[solid horizon]

mind you, I had not assembled chaos space marines for at least 13 years or more (my first minis were 5 chaos space marines and a rhino) until I recently got my Warpsmith

I found myself standing in front of this

[celest cedar]

been seeing YT vids like these

chat is this real

[solid horizon]

back then it was only legs, 3 piece torso (counting power pack), arms with pauldrons and head

[queen fern]

oof

[wary fulcrum]

the best days

though i also liked having to clip the grip off boltguns

[surreal nest]

Won't lie, their latest update was really good. But its still OW

Pick your poison!

[rocky gale]

Turns out the game is actually fun when it get's new content and active development

Who knew that working on a game made people enjoy it

[solid horizon]

I also have these guys rotting on my shelf, there were my brothers'

[civic gale]

True!

[solid horizon]

I dont remember well but I think those space marines were practically a single piece

[civic gale]

And when you know, you're not playing competitive sweating yourself off due to a random internet throphy called "rank"

[wary fulcrum]

i think it was hands and gun, back pack, then the body?

[solid horizon]

I think so

I want to repaint them one day

alas I already have too many skits waiting to be painted (I hate painting skits)

[cerulean trellis]

teh what now?

i am used to GW minis being: legs, torso, head, arms, done

ok shields if they had them

[solid horizon]

I think only human minis are like that now

and orks maybe

orks look fun to paint and assemble

[queen laurel]

Yeah from what I heard Overwatch actually locked in

got like a lot of characters and more content

[storm jungle]

It is yeah

like

OW was basically non-existent since its re-launch

now im seeing it EVERYWHERE

its coming on par with Rivals again, as Bulgur said they legit locked in

[vagrant fox]

shame

[storm jungle]

Goonvals vs Goonwatch

truly the battle for the ages

(they are both the exact same game)

[civic gale]

that's why i only play the male characters

[celest cedar]

I play the gooniest character

https://tenor.com/view/plushship-pharah-overwatch-blizzard-gif-5445975

[vagrant fox]

Banned

[celest cedar]

Pharah my beloved

[dry epoch]

It’s better than it was but the matchmaking is still utterly rubbish

[queen laurel]

yeah i'm gonna keep that in mind but hey an improvement

[dry epoch]

I have had fun in it again - and am playing right now in fact!

[near wasp]

Still can't believe twomad died playing ow2

[rigid dune]

Lorewise, does psyker magic have a visual representation or is that just for the viewer? Like brain burst. Does that call down an actual lightning bold into the head of a single target or is that just a visual?

[near wasp]

Yes psyker magic has visuals

[fervent geode]

Kor Phaeron fucking shoots black lightning yes

[near wasp]

Kor pharon is a nerd

[fervent geode]

A nerd that shoots black lightning to kill daemons is a cool nerd

[rigid dune]

So theoretically a psyker could project his own holographic psyker girlfriend thinking she is real asuming the psyker is crazy enough?

[fervent geode]

Even if this one is an asshole

[queen laurel]

yes

Those are accurate

[fervent geode]

Assuming he's not Magnus the red or Malcador probably not

[near wasp]

Not likely they'd likely just summon a daemon trying

[fervent geode]

As a voice in his head maybe

Still risky af

[near wasp]

In fact the voice in there head is likely just a straight up daemon anywyas

[rigid dune]

The "beloved" is not the emperor, just a demon playing pretend

[near wasp]

Tbh maybe

I lean more towards an actual shard of the emperor

But I have no real evidence

[storm jungle]

Anything regarding magic in 40k is possible

its what settings with no hard-set rules on magic usually end up with

[queen laurel]

if you have enough power for it you can literally turn your body bulletproof

[storm jungle]

Its left entirely ambigious. Whatever is talking to the psyker actively helps them, makes suggestions, gives them orders, makes random comments etc

if it was a daemon it would be way more obvious and malicious

[fervent geode]

Someone told me it was a shard of Magnus somewhere

[queen laurel]

one general middle of the run theory is it's a shard of the emperor

[fervent geode]

Idts