actually PTSD inducing
#40k-lore-chat
opaque coyote
spring cairn
the games are ancient
spring cairn
palaeolithic gaming
arctic talon
funny ass joke I heard about wiping in Marathon
"people are worried about losing their gear every 3 months when the UESC is going to blow your limbs off every other match"
opaque coyote
to have that be in the final product
then again, it released in 1994
and in the same time
System Shock 1 released
and it had this as the UI
spring cairn
system shock is a different genre of game
spring cairn
also shodan would clear durandalr sorry chudz
vagrant fox
I know nothing of Durandal but yes correct
arctic talon
yeah prolly
spring cairn
opaque coyote
also shodan would clear durandalr sorry chudz
depends which iteration of durandal
but both at base
ye
durandal with the phfor
uhh probably not
spring cairn
shodan would be my goat when it comes to evil AI's if GladOS wasn't a thing
rocky gale
What’s the preorders coming out this time
Preorders are only shown on Sunday for the coming week and Saturday 4 hours after they've already sold out
opaque coyote
shodan would be my goat when it comes to evil AI's if GladOS wasn't a thing
Shodan is probably my favorite because it's the only human like evil AI
even GladOS technically isn't an AI
it's a mind uploaded to a computer
the remake also added a bunch of interesting new context with it's manual
and it genuinely deepens Shodan character in a good way
seriously give the manual a read
it's also free
winter pine
SHODAN is the best malevolent AI in any video game
opaque coyote
SHODAN is the best malevolent AI in any video game
ironically aged the best
given how Shodan is basically influenced by Humanity
jade holly
Will the Reign of Iron stuff most likely all be out by July?
opaque coyote
Who knew that being what's basically the child of
a megacorp
might be bad once her scruples are taken away??
jade holly
Cause I’m planning to do a big Warhammer haul for my birthday
languid meadow
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxui-FAcOl9ZANpd_IdSLa8CPCmwSUaiI5?si=nucjhhvk2lWuDGMp this fucking segment dude
thanks Nicky
vital ginkgo
Which imperial sub-faction would be the best bet for the Imperium’s survival if given total authority?
languid meadow
none of them 💀
heady rivet
Which imperial sub-faction would be the best bet for the Imperium’s survival if ...
Admech, but everything gets worse for everyone
storm jungle
^
All Imperial factions are terrible
- IG would become militant warlord states
- Mechanicus would become cyborg overlords of factory planets
- Sororitas would be religious ethno-catholic shitholes
- Space Marines would be like IG but even worse
celest dome
Honestly, probably some far flung planet that don't really depend on the higher Imperium
languid meadow
also every faction besides like 1 are so varied that it wouldn't me homogenous
storm jungle
Knight Lords are MAYBE the best bet, as those are just Westeros with robots
the Imperial sub-factions are all built on conquest minus Knights kinda
vagrant fox
the nice custodes, naturally
storm jungle
they would all be some form of totalitarian shithole
languid meadow
since one marine chapter treats normals WAY differently from one, you could have nocturne or ultramar
heady rivet
Knight Lords are MAYBE the best bet, as those are just Westeros with robots
You've convinced me
languid meadow
Or fucking NECROMUNDA
Custodes would just let the imperium rot lol they don't care
heady rivet
Or fucking NECROMUNDA
languid meadow
giving them total power wouldn't change anything really
since they'd just stay in palace
heady rivet
I figured it out btw whoopsie
storm jungle
You've convinced me
YOU HEARD THE MAN
THE KING IS TOO FAT FOR HIS KNIGHT
GO FIND THE MACRO-PLATE STRETCHER, NOW
languid meadow
when it comes to marines or guard you kind of have to specify which chapter you want full power
imperium fully ran by blueberries?
idk might not be so bad comparatively...
go from omega shit
to shit
tough haven
- IG would become militant warlord states
- Mechanicus would become cyborg overl...
Instead they all come together to become all of these at once
storm jungle
Instead they all come together to become all of these at once
LMAO
jade holly
imperium fully ran by blueberries?
Imperium ran by the MM, Minotaurs, BT, or Iron Hands
languid meadow
Suicide
tough haven
Imperium run by Normal People™️
languid meadow
the imperium is just a bunch of insane people in the get along shirt
tough haven
The imperium is just a bunch of insane people
rocky gale
https://klipy.com/gifs/wine-robert-baratheon
"Milord, we don't have anymore criminals for you to crush"
opaque coyote
the galaxy is just a bunch of insane people
Generic ik
But I almost wish there was a good guy faction
Because the T'au technically fulfill the role of naivety
But they're quickly becoming even more cruel as well (despite starting off kinda shit)
So I kinda wish there was a faction that just constantly went
turns to the galaxy and the mosh pit of everyone fighting
"WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?"
Like I said
Tau technically fulfill this but it's diluted somewhat due to their government
languid meadow
celest cedar
- IG would become militant warlord states
- Mechanicus would become cyborg overl...
sororitas would just be a toxic dom matriarchy
storm jungle
Literally, id love it
celest cedar
highkey
vagrant fox
that's gay
rocky gale
sororitas would just be a toxic dom matriarchy
Yea... I'd like to change my answer
storm jungle
https://fxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2029275426279866712?s=20
Please be good Please be good Please be good Please be good
vagrant fox
it shan't be
celest cedar
Yea... I'd like to change my answer
LOL
vagrant fox
ok I reckon everyone should read Death Rider, it should be mandatory
storm jungle
Im gonna finish the new Alpha Legion book then do that i think
vagrant fox
alpha snoozion
vagrant fox
idk
languid meadow
Alpha legion have like
vagrant fox
languid meadow
one of the best aesthetics out there
the scale armour and teal?
peak
so fucking peak
celest cedar
https://fxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2029275426279866712?s=20
you're old LMAO
storm jungle
its so fucking good
celest cedar
wait is this set in the same universe as James Gunn's
storm jungle
I THINK so?
vagrant fox
But I almost wish there was a good guy faction
that's why I put one in my little sector
my little good boys
storm jungle
Im really not convinced much by this trailer
another Green Lantern L amidst thousands......
languid meadow
what sucks is that a lot of the more chaosey AL art is still pretty good
but I just don't like it as much compared to more renegadey ones
storm jungle
also all AL art relies on that dumbass "mid-camo changing" thing
that gimmick has been done to death and im sick of seeing it lol
limpid granite
languid meadow
I do think SM2 does a very good AL
limpid granite
something something jade dragon
languid meadow
but it's locked to SLOP
jade holly
Do most AL use Phobos armor or whatever the Firstborn variant of it is?
limpid granite
but it's locked to SLOP
sm2 has amazing voicelines for chaos
storm jungle
Do most AL use Phobos armor or whatever the Firstborn variant of it is?
They use anything
languid meadow
the appeal of AL to me is how varied they are
limpid granite
languid meadow
do you want chaos worshippers? there they are
do you want people who deluded themselves into thinking they're doing good? there they are
jade holly
sniper class in PvP?
limpid granite
pvp sniper
storm jungle
do you want chaos worshippers? there they are
do you want people who deluded the...
its why I love Harrowmaster
where the entire gathering shows EVERY vibe of warband
i love how the chaos AL are like
"lmao look at those idiots thinking they are loyalists"
vagrant fox
sm2 has amazing voicelines for chaos
no hook
Hook not ready
I said no hook
Decimus tier
storm jungle
languid meadow
yeah the AL are prob the best at showing how traitors really are in a lot
yeah night lords are kind of like this but they're all omega evil lol
storm jungle
NL are a footnote for a reason and the only thing they got going for them is the NL trilogy
limpid granite
daring creek
languid meadow
that's my image
languid meadow
you forwarded MY MESSAGE
daring creek
no i didnt
jade holly
500 Worlds and Reign of Iton back to back, I joined at such a great time for me ngl
opaque coyote
the khornate dude looks real damn good
I like the middle design
jade holly
Well I guess not back to back
opaque coyote
But left is also great
languid meadow
the khornate dude looks real damn good
the only time I really like world eaters other than that
boringgggggggggg
languid meadow
no braids
daring creek
the khornate dude looks real damn good
me after one cup of water
opaque coyote
True
languid meadow
and he has both arms exposed
opaque coyote
Kharn Copy then
jade holly
What’s the IW one look like in game again?
rose thorn
NL are a footnote for a reason and the only thing they got going for them is the...
But but, but, le skinning
languid meadow
my main issue with black legion and world eaters is that their fantasy/aos version do it better lmfao
rose thorn
Le corvus
rose thorn
Le Konrad
opaque coyote
and he has both arms exposed
No he only has one exposed
limpid granite
hatsune miku
languid meadow
huh I thought he had both out
jade holly
No he only has one exposed
You think he can use that helmet like bull horns and gore someone?
languid meadow
daring creek
now gw.
languid meadow
opaque coyote
You think he can use that helmet like bull horns and gore someone?
I'd be more surprised if he didn't
languid meadow
I just much prefer Khornate warriors in AoS and Fantasy over WE
jade holly
What would IW look like in AoS
opaque coyote
Although it doesn't look like it can gore someone
At least
Not without a lot of force
limpid granite
jade holly
Although it doesn't look like it can gore someone
F = MA, he just needs to run fast enough
opaque coyote
F = MA, he just needs to run fast enough
So maybe a regular human being but not like a fellow SM
He'd just bounce off
Or even a Ogryn with flak armor on
But I definitely think he can gore a human being
Just not anything bigger
With the horns at least
languid meadow
cerulean trellis
i guess the bigger problem is noth piercing someone with the horns but rather getting them back out xD
opaque coyote
i guess the bigger problem is noth piercing someone with the horns but rather ge...
Both would be difficult
Because the horns are flat
languid meadow
WHERE IS MY GREEN
opaque coyote
Although it would 100% still hurt
languid meadow
IN THE GREEN LANTERN SHOW
opaque coyote
It'd be like being hit by a hammer
cerulean trellis
Both would be difficult
in is easier then out probs
opaque coyote
Ye
jade holly
Because the horns are flat
They have spikes on them
cerulean trellis
well depending on how deep they go
opaque coyote
Kharn sighing as he has to pull out the corpse
cerulean trellis
they have the hook thingies after all
languid meadow
😭 brown latern....
vagrant fox
almost mark of chaos tier but very cool
opaque coyote
Kharn sighing as he has to pull out the corpse
Because their arms are blocking his view
languid meadow
"what emotion is that?"
"SHITTING YOURSELF"
cerulean trellis
"what emotion is that?"
"SHITTING YOURSELF"
shame
opaque coyote
Apparently Orange Lanterns represent Greed
opaque coyote
everything is tan or brown
Probably meant to be an orange or even yellow lantern if it wasn't for the color grading
jade holly
Kharn sighing as he has to pull out the corpse
Casually walking around with a shish kebab on his head
opaque coyote
Casually walking around with a shish kebab on his head
"DUDE. YOU GOTTA STOP DOING THAT."
Kharn turns around
"why?"
opaque coyote
"WELL... YOUR EYES ARE BLOCKED BY THE ARMS OF A GUARDSMAN.'
opaque coyote
"WELL... YOUR EYES ARE BLOCKED BY THE ARMS OF A GUARDSMAN.'
"...I didn't notice."
"HOW."
"Too busy."
sigh "LIKE HERDING CATS INTO A BATH..."
jade holly
"**Too busy.**"
When all you see is red you don’t tend to notice the blood
opaque coyote
I think Kharn is usually characterized as speaking calmly
He just speaks much louder through his actions
So it's funny to imagine Kharn like in a café
Drinking a cup of tea with his big ass hands
Then going back out
Going back in because he forgot to tip and he needs to. (The true honor of Khorne clearly)
And then going back out to slaughter children
The orphanage is nearby and he isn't about to waste free points
jade holly
You know what would make IW look even cooler?
If their power packs were combustion engines
opaque coyote
In general I imagine Khornate Berserkers leave children last.
Not because of any honor or cruelty but because if they're busy with something bigger or more threatening. They're gonna go for the big skull first
Like if they're behind a bigger enemy, they'll just let them run because they can't be bothered
Like similar to how when you're fighting a boss, you ignore smaller enemies unless if they actively get in your way
He'll just chase them later
It's not like they can run far.
rocky gale
They operate like Priscila from Claymore, they can't see children
opaque coyote
They operate like Priscila from Claymore, they can't see children
Honestly given how big SMs are
I can genuinely imagine a child somehow hiding underneath them
And they just don't notice it
Like a kid is like right in between their legs.
Dodging their stomps and shit
languid meadow
humble shoal
Could see some khornates leaving children
jade holly
Damn now I want my future IW army to have special smoke stacks and smoke spewing out of their power packs
“Diesel” powered IW just sound so cool visually
opaque coyote
Could see some khornates leaving children
Generally I kinda view as like
Backtracking in a RPG to get to a new area only to encounter a level 1 goblin
humble shoal
Imagine khorn worshippers who are just generating massive amounts of blood through blood farms
opaque coyote
Generally I kinda view as like
Backtracking in a RPG to get to a new area only ...
Like you're gonna ignore the level 1 goblin if they don't aggro
But if they do
Well it's more like split second chore
Not worth much exp/blood
humble shoal
Id lile more worldeaters that have transcended the nails
And are just "dumbledore spoke calmly" all of the time
opaque coyote
Id lile more worldeaters that have transcended the nails
I think it's called like
Berserker Zen.
The equivalent of
opaque coyote
"being so angry that you basically hit an integer overflow and look calm'
The 8 fold path is also borrowed from Buddhism
Which is all about enlightenment
If I can get a nickel for the amount of media that has the Eightfold Path be related to mindless violence
I'd have two
Which isn't much but it's weird that it appeared twice
languid meadow
opaque coyote
The second is a Lisa Fan game called Lisa: The Pointless where there's a cult called the "Infinity Franchise"
All about succumbing to mindless violence
With the excuse given when somebody inevitably asks why or insults them
"Don't blame me, blame the franchise"
limpid granite
LOL
opaque coyote
Honestly I think the most interesting thing about the Automatons is that
They clearly do feel
storm jungle
opaque coyote
They clearly do feel
But yet they're still loyal to their creators
storm jungle
divers lose once and they are already crying that its "rigged"
opaque coyote
They sing war songs, they mock Helldivers, they intentionally intimidate by putting skulls and heads on their bodies.
Yet they are still loyal to their masters. Enough to try and retake their home planet and save them
Idk I just find that interesting
rocky gale
divers lose once and they are already crying that its "rigged"
We were betrayed
storm jungle
Cope
opaque coyote
Idk I just find that interesting
Especially since the usual route for the Robot empire is that they betray their masters
vagrant fox
I somewhat like a long time friend besides the fact that he's a turbo boomer new thing bad old thing good but when he started whining that Cyberstan was rigged good god
storm jungle
Idk I just find that interesting
Why are you saying all this like its some huge thing
everyone knows
opaque coyote
Why are you saying all this like its some huge thing
Idk
opaque coyote
I just think it's neat™
vagrant fox
https://klipy.com/gifs/death-trooper-star-wars
You've convinced me, kill Dilara
storm jungle
The detractors will be dealt with
If by "detractors" you mean all the Shitdivers that failed then yeah deffo
opaque coyote
Especially since the usual route for the Robot empire is that they betray their ...
Also because this.
It's admittedly quite rare for the opposite to happen
storm jungle
You've convinced me, kill Dilara
vagrant fox
I hate phone keyboard
opaque coyote
Where despite being independent sentient mechanical beings, they're still loyal to their creators
It's a nice change of pace
vagrant fox
Click slightly left of a and it becomes q
Why
opaque coyote
I hate phone keyboard
Suffering
This is why I misspell or miss words whenever I type istg
cerulean trellis
Like a kid is like right in between their legs.
Dodging their stomps and shit
doesn't really work, watch pariah nexus if you can ^^
spacemarine legs are not that far apart
cerulean trellis
I hate phone keyboard
same
cerulean trellis
true
vagrant fox
Any true and real khornate would kill anything in front of them threat or not
opaque coyote
Especially since I know SMs are actually like 6 ft tall lore-wise but every single piece of art often depicts them much taller
For obvious reasons but still
opaque coyote
Especially since I know SMs are actually like 6 ft tall lore-wise but every sing...
Also specifically first born, Primaris are also much taller
opaque coyote
Seriously?
opaque coyote
Damn ok
Ngl I view them similar to like Mr. X compared to Leon in size disparity despite knowing that the lore is contrary
outer wave
So who would win: a primaris or Stormcast fella?
storm jungle
opaque coyote
Storm cast
storm jungle
They are both extremely equilavent
cerulean trellis
i mena 7-8 feet is friggin tall!
storm jungle
so it would have a lot of factors
cerulean trellis
average humies reach to your chest at best
outer wave
so it would have a lot of factors
Darn but fair
storm jungle
Darn but fair
Stormcast can easily kill marines if you are wondering dont worry lol
opaque coyote
average humies reach to your chest at best
Yeah it's just that I can't help but recall them as taller than they actually are. Even though I know their heights
storm jungle
they arent just people in chonky armor
they are literally the living embodiment of sigmar himself
opaque coyote
They are both extremely equilavent
Would it be the equivalent of like a quick draw type of battle.
Whoever attacks first wins
outer wave
Also, completely unrelated, but I wonder if at some point Tyranids or Orks even would make their own primaris equivalent since both typically will somehow copy space marines or assimilate DNA
outer wave
Stormcast can easily kill marines if you are wondering dont worry lol
Hooray!!!
storm jungle
Would it be the equivalent of like a quick draw type of battle.
Whoever attacks...
Equal.
storm jungle
Also, completely unrelated, but I wonder if at some point Tyranids or Orks even ...
theres no need
Primaris die just like Firstborn
cerulean trellis
so i just checked and apparently without armor primaris are about 7-8 feet with armor usually a bit more like 9-10
opaque coyote
Also, completely unrelated, but I wonder if at some point Tyranids or Orks even ...
I mean the Primaris are basically "minor" alterations to the og.
They honestly don't need to as it barely changes much
If anything
cerulean trellis
however primarch are abou 9-12 without armor, depending on the primarch
limpid granite
Primaris die just like Firstborn
is the belisarian furnace mentioned at all recently
languid meadow
storm jungle
is the belisarian furnace mentioned at all recently
ıts like every single marine organ
arctic talon
is the belisarian furnace mentioned at all recently
Yes but that doesn’t save you from getting your head crushed like a grape
storm jungle
irrevelavant until needed for scene
storm jungle
also like
limpid granite
irrevelavant until needed for scene
acid spit my beloved
storm jungle
the Furnace is literally an adrenaline boost
daring creek
Space marine helmets have a built in weed vape
storm jungle
its not some magic reviver
cerulean trellis
however there are exceptions as it also depends on the marines themselves. tyberos the red wake for example is described as frigging 12 feed tall
storm jungle
lol
daring creek
thats how they stay chill during battle
storm jungle
however there are exceptions as it also depends on the marines themselves. tyber...
Hes literally a few inches taller
limpid granite
doesnt it kickstart metabalism extremely fast ?
storm jungle
this obsession people have with that dumbass' height is killing me
arctic talon
It makes them a lot harder to fucking kill
arctic talon
however there are exceptions as it also depends on the marines themselves. tyber...
also Tyberos is not described as that big
nor ever shown to be that big
outside of fan art
daring creek
all marines are under 5 foot till proven otherwise.
arctic talon
Anyways Stormcast melee weapons are all magical bullshit lol
cerulean trellis
xD
arctic talon
funny hammer that crunches chaos warrior armor like a can
cerulean trellis
also Tyberos is not described as that big
not all i have always heard is that the guy is huge af
arctic talon
He's described as big
storm jungle
imagine being beaten to paste by a wrahammer
arctic talon
but he's not that big lol
storm jungle
^
opaque coyote
this obsession people have with that dumbass' height is killing me
I guess you can say an SM is 6'7"
arctic talon
he's descibed as being a head taller then his body guards
storm jungle
the giantness is fandom wank thing
storm jungle
I guess you can say an SM is 6'7"
dunno
arctic talon
imagine being beaten to paste by a wrahammer
at least its fast 💀 Stormcast go for the head
generally
Sigmar really did just teach the stormcast how to horrifically kill someone as fast as possible didn't he
LOL
just fucking cut their head off
cerulean trellis
I guess you can say an SM is 6'7"
arctic talon
cerulean trellis
left normal human famiry, right sa'kan
outer wave
Primaris die just like Firstborn
Considering the Tyranids made the Hiveguard based on the original space marines, and the orks have a typical tendancy to copy the Imperium in terms of weaponry and some times tech, you'd think either would want to take advantage of even the slight technology edge
opaque coyote
at least its fast 💀 Stormcast go for the head
It's also funny is storm cast are made from people giving their all to fight Chaos.
So technically you could be brutally killed by a Storm cast that used to be a 5 year old girl
In fact there's a short story about that.
outer wave
But I suppose it is a minor thing to really care about at the end of the day
storm jungle
Considering the Tyranids made the Hiveguard based on the original space marines,...
they didnt really make them to counter marines
they just absorbed their DNA and made something for lols
Hive Guard arent even frontline bioforms
outer wave
You're right, but even that tidbit of extra stuff could be useful for nids
storm jungle
Id rather we just dont make xenos match space marine slop 🙂
opaque coyote
You're right, but even that tidbit of extra stuff could be useful for nids
I mean most of the new Primaris stuff are implants
arctic talon
Also nid warriors are already a match for primaris lol
opaque coyote
Not really changing much DNA wise
outer wave
Id rather we just dont make xenos match space marine slop 🙂
Primaris Tyranids..... and now they speak english and talk exactly like space marines
arctic talon
and there's usually way more fucking nid warriors
cerulean trellis
Primaris Tyranids..... and now they speak english and talk exactly like space ma...
For the HIVE MIND!
opaque coyote
I mean most of the new Primaris stuff are implants
Like there's like 3 new implants?
cerulean trellis
or what?
limpid granite
FOR THE FOUR ARMED EMPEROR
opaque coyote
And since they're implants, it doesn't change their DNA much
cerulean trellis
Like there's like 3 new implants?
i think so?
outer wave
For the HIVE MIND!
FOR THE NORN QUEEN!!!!
opaque coyote
And since they're implants, it doesn't change their DNA much
So arguably absorbing Primaris DNA would be the exact same as absorbing a first born for Tyranids
cerulean trellis
And since they're implants, it doesn't change their DNA much
ask bellisarius cawl xD he knows
opaque coyote
Nothing really changes or is improved much
outer wave
And since they're implants, it doesn't change their DNA much
They're organic implants though, no?
cerulean trellis
Nothing really changes or is improved much
why create the primaris then`? if nothing changes
arctic talon
there's 3 new organs
cerulean trellis
They're organic implants though, no?
yes
arctic talon
they're all mild improvements
Nids already had equivelents
Belesarian furnace is the Adrenal gland hyper adaptation
Sinew coils is just whatever meth they give some warriors
and the magnificant is just stuff stronger
lol
storm jungle
why create the primaris then`? if nothing changes
New = Better
marketing shit comes first before lore
dont think about it lol
cerulean trellis
and then their tendons are wrapped in plasstell or smh?
vagrant fox
he's descibed as being a head taller then his body guards
Just like every single chapter master
outer wave
yes
So that would mean that their geneseed organs and those primaris implants are capable of being assimilated
arctic talon
Tyranids are pretty much perfect killing machines already
opaque coyote
why create the primaris then`? if nothing changes
It's effective for the Primaris.
But the method that the Tyranids absorb people. Their DNA.
Kinda doesn't matter.
Also two of their implants are surgically implanted. Only the Belesarian Furnace is an organic one
rose thorn
FOR THE FOUR ARMED EMPEROR
PRAISE THE STAR CHILDRENNN
storm jungle
there's literally no point
Also contrary to popular belief space marines are not the peak form of generic supersoldiers people want to believe lol
arctic talon
I mean I'm sure the Tyranid players would love 4 wound warriors
I'd fucking hate it
rose thorn
what did i miss
opaque coyote
It's effective for the Primaris.
But the method that the Tyranids absorb people...
So basically at most
arctic talon
they're far superior as a weapon
arctic talon
but Nid warriors can fucking murderize marines already
cerulean trellis
its like a weird coil thing
Sinew Coils
Phase 3 Alpha: Also known as the Steel Within. The Space Marine's sinews (tendons and ligaments) are reinforced with durametallic coil-cables that contract with incredible force, dramatically magnifying the subject's strength beyond that of a regular Space Marine and giving another layer of interior defense, which greatly increases their durability.
arctic talon
they don't need better nid warriors as those already exist
arctic talon
Nid warriors already get hyper adaptations and special stimulants
vagrant fox
Nids could make specialised organs whenever they don't need to eat some random soldiers
arctic talon
the adrenal gland and toxin gland implants are fucking insane
storm jungle
Nids could make specialised organs whenever they don't need to eat some random s...
They already do
arctic talon
from a biological standpoint
cerulean trellis
nids have an insane list of biomodifications in their codices xD
opaque coyote
Sinew Coils
Phase 3 Alpha: Also known as the Steel Within. The Space Marine's si...
Yeah that is surgically added due to how it's metal.
So the Tyranids wouldn't even get that.
The second organ, the Amplifier, is also surgically added.
cerulean trellis
liek even 3rd edition is just psycho cO
arctic talon
I loved that as a mechanic
cerulean trellis
adrenal gland gants xD
cerulean trellis
Fucking nothing
no nids already had all that shit
arctic talon
Nids already have that
opaque coyote
Nids already have that
Yeah exactly.
They get nothing new
storm jungle
Marines are not biologically superior or unique in any way
Nids dont need anything from them
arctic talon
Tyrant Guard utilized marine genetic material in their construction but its unclear for what
The mechanicus suspects it was the black carapace
storm jungle
^
outer wave
Okay so this was all on the nid side, but what about orks? Where are our primaris boyz, hmm?
opaque coyote
Okay so this was all on the nid side, but what about orks? Where are our primari...
Orks basically have that by default
storm jungle
An "adult" normal ork can also easily kill a marine
arctic talon
Orks get primaris orks by clobbering the shit out of you
storm jungle
they dont need anything either lol
arctic talon
orks suck ass at shooting
is the upside
Cyborks and Ardboyz are an iconic part of Orks
and are primaris Orks
lol
opaque coyote
orks suck ass at shooting
Fear the day when Orks finally get proper aim
winter pine
An "adult" normal ork can also easily kill a marine
only need me best choppa to krump one of dem beakie gits
cerulean trellis
hence: more dakka!
arctic talon
Orks had Primaris before Primaris existed
LOL
dakka dakka dakka was prolly one of the best inventions 8e came up with
made ork shooting not total ass due to a very orky thing
rather then just making ork shooting not ass
opaque coyote
Orks had Primaris before Primaris existed
Also the fact that they evolve depending on how difficult the enemy is.
outer wave
dakka dakka dakka was prolly one of the best inventions 8e came up with
Too bad thats mostly gone now
winter pine
I thought part of the balancing was up close in melee they're usually consistent
arctic talon
Yeah
Ork melee is incredibly consistent and strong
ork guns are inconsistent as fuck and before 8e just total unusable dogshit aside from 3 units
cerulean trellis
krump krump krump!
winter pine
Like everything else is Looney Tunes random and wacky but melee is a consistent strength
arctic talon
well
Orks had good psychic powers as swell
And a lot of bodies
actually Cyborks straight up had a marine statline in 7e
S4 T4 1W 3+ SV
lol
opaque coyote
ork guns are inconsistent as fuck and before 8e just total unusable dogshit asid...
Orks see an Imperial Plasma gun and get confused why it hasn't had a malfunction after like 5 seconds of fire
Since even with the Waagh fields, Ork guns still malfunction a lot
It's part of the fun
arctic talon
Anyways Primaris Orks exist anyways
Primaris are just a replacement for normal marines
opaque coyote
You get it by beating enough Orks and other races
opaque coyote
Primaris are just a replacement for normal marines
Primaris is like Windows 8 to Windows 10.
Better but not really that huge of a difference
cerulean trellis
now they are just space marines again ^^
vagrant fox
Retvrn to firstborn tradition soon
outer wave
Orks see an Imperial Plasma gun and get confused why it hasn't had a malfunction...
Do orks ever use plasma or laser tech in their guns or whatever they procure off the ground? I imagine they do
But I never see it on the tabletop
arctic talon
Do orks ever use plasma or laser tech in their guns or whatever they procure off...
Yes
winter pine
Do orks ever use plasma or laser tech in their guns or whatever they procure off...
I think orcs generally prefer loud shooty combustion guns but will take what they can loot and scavenge
winter pine
Probably love the face melting part of hitting a humie with plasma tho lmao
opaque coyote
Also honestly, I know that Chaos Marines mostly got a sudden upgrade from the gods if they were there before Primaris was made.
Gotta make em equal for the great game.
But I also find it funny to imagine them as like
Still looking like the second edition models and then they encounter 10th edition model Primaris
winter pine
Kustom megablasta
right proppa shoota
opaque coyote
Okay honestly that genuinely looks sick as fuck
opaque coyote
Also honestly, I know that Chaos Marines mostly got a sudden upgrade from the go...
It's funnier to imagine CSMs vs Primaris battles looking like
A battle at a friend's house where one of them grabbed out their dad's old 2nd Edition figurines of World Eaters and uses them against another friends recently bought Primaris Models
vagrant fox
Which one to get lads, Twice Dead Ruin, Elemental Council, Darkness Eternal, or Requiem Infernal
arctic talon
Which one to get lads, Twice Dead Ruin, Elemental Council, Darkness Eternal, or ...
Elemental council or twice dead ruin imo
outer wave
What is their equivalent of a plasma gun that they make themselves?
opaque coyote
Orks don’t make plasma guns themselves often
Do they like using em
arctic talon
Decently
opaque coyote
Or do they think they're boring AF like lasers
cerulean trellis
Which one to get lads, Twice Dead Ruin, Elemental Council, Darkness Eternal, or ...
booksies?
opaque coyote
Good point
If an Ork had a a SM bolter and a plasma gun next to each other on a table
Which one would he take first
winter pine
Orks generally love a weapon if it inflicts horrific injuries and pain on the guy on the other end
Or if it happens to the Ork so other Orks can laugh at him instead
arctic talon
What is their equivalent of a plasma gun that they make themselves?
Kustom mega Blasta/Slugga/Kannon
is vaguely the same
vagrant fox
I reckon I start Twice Dead tomorrow, see if it changes my opinion on snoozerons
arctic talon
The end result is the same
It’ll turn anything into a pile of molten slag with superheated gas and energy
opaque coyote
I like to imagine that everytime a mekboy makes a custom weapon, vehicle, whatever. The Home Depot theme starts playing
arctic talon
cerulean trellis
I reckon I start Twice Dead tomorrow, see if it changes my opinion on snoozerons
necrons?
vagrant fox
Yea
cerulean trellis
i liek em ^^
opaque coyote
Or if it happens to the Ork so other Orks can laugh at him instead
"No don't let it overcharge!"
"What do you mean Overcharg-"
explosion
Tau Cannon is still the most third most fun Half Life weapon
Second is the LMG in Opposing Force.
First is the Gravity gun in HL2
For the zero people who asked about my top 3 half life weapons
Also speaking of Tau.
I bet Orks would have a lot of fun with Tau Railguns
cerulean trellis
the mekboi hands over the defgun to the grunt turning around again while explainin: "don'tcha go an hold down da trigga for to long, boy."
When he turns back with a belt to fix the gun the grunt was already out the hut. "Oh well", he surmised, "he will find out."
outer wave
Also speaking of Tau.
I bet Orks would have a lot of fun with Tau Railguns
I feel if they tried to build an original railgun, they'd take the rail part too literally and make the ork equivalent of railroad tracks for a big bullet to ride on
opaque coyote
I feel if they tried to build an original railgun, they'd take the rail part too...
They just fire a mini train basically
arctic talon
They got magnetic guns
So they’re most of the way there to a railgun
The payload is bombs though
lol
arctic talon
Also @opaque coyote 45% of player deaths during the Marathon server test were caused by the UESC
Yet another UESC W
winter pine
Orks would definitely love the Fallout railway rifle if they decided to take a railgun a bit too literal
arctic talon
Eat your heart out MIDA
opaque coyote
Orks would definitely love the Fallout railway rifle if they decided to take a r...
Tbf I FUCKING love that thing too
The decision to have body parts stick to a nearby wall is great
winter pine
Tbf I FUCKING love that thing too
Such a fun and delightfully brutal weapon lmao, big thanks to Bethesda for it
Very orky
arctic talon
More stupid Ork guns
opaque coyote
And sometimes it's the FO4 assault rifle
Both are Ork like but in different ways
arctic talon
I need a Kustom rokkit launcha
opaque coyote
I love my water and air cooled LMG Assault Rifle
cerulean trellis
man i wanna read imperium maledictum core rulebook but then again here is funni
winter pine
You need a good balance of grim no hopeness and funny for something grimdark imo
cerulean trellis
speakin of rockits i like their "jetpacks" just a karkin rocken boudn to the back of soem orkbois and off tehy go
opaque coyote
Where it’s a bunch of rockets glued together
It's a multi barrel rocket launcher but instead of firing one per barrel
It just fires all of them at once
arctic talon
Volley gun
arctic talon
Average Ork mek invention
opaque coyote
Average Ork mek invention
A classic
I love how it's a restoration video but backwards
heady rivet
sororitas would just be a toxic dom matriarchy
If you even had one pornographic thought about this we're putting you in the torment nexus btw
opaque coyote
I love how it's a restoration video but backwards
The rust gives it extra grip
||Tetanus? What's that?||
celest cedar
If you even had one pornographic thought about this we're putting you in the tor...
https://tenor.com/view/thanos-it's-just-the-way-it-is-i'm-just-the-messenger-gif-6270475095135913721
arctic talon
opaque coyote
Honestly I think an Ork game with customization would be funny.
Imagine having the paint of the gun give bonuses depending on the color
Red gives it a flat damage boost because the bullet goes faster
Blue gives a higher chance for a critical hit because it's a lucky color
opaque coyote
Blue gives a higher chance for a critical hit because it's a lucky color
Yellow gives higher AoE damage to any gun or explosive implement.
cerulean trellis
Honestly I think an Ork game with customization would be funny.
Imagine having ...
winter pine
Warhammer 40,000 Greentide
daring creek
Average Ork mek invention
Not knowing what the fuck he's saying honestly gives this a more terrifying aura
Fear what you don't undertand
opaque coyote
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283101573274144899/1478810059650760938/b...
Me when I'm trying to speak IRL
daring creek
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283101573274144899/1478810059650760938/b...
These are the actual noses I make when I have a tick
Like
not
far off
seriously
arctic talon
Not knowing what the fuck he's saying honestly gives this a more terrifying aura
The device
cerulean trellis
i ma serious laati i think speed freakz is that customizable ork game
opaque coyote
Yellow gives higher AoE damage to any gun or explosive implement.
Purple will make every shot be suppressed to have "stealth".
Green will give a smaller boost to everything. Basically a jack of all trades.
opaque coyote
i ma serious laati i think speed freakz is that customizable ork game
Yeah but that's for cars
daring creek
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283101573274144899/1478810059650760938/b...
@dark moon These are the noises I make when I have ticks
daring creek
Am I a khorne cultist
opaque coyote
But fair point
daring creek
please acknowledge..
daring creek
The device
wolf I need you to translate :C
opaque coyote
Am I a khorne cultist
Idk do you feel like stealing somebody's skull
opaque coyote
You might be a Khornate cultist
vagrant fox
If you haven't internalised Avitus' wisdom you're not khornate enough
opaque coyote
Also fun fact.
Tourettes basically forces you to say the worst possible thing in a situation
The more forbidden it is, the more you'll shout it out
daring creek
aa...
daring creek
The more forbidden it is, the more you'll shout it out
aaa.......
daring creek
Oh no. I don't have like
opaque coyote
"PEACE AND TRANQUILITY"
opaque coyote
Intrusive thoughts
daring creek
I do say fucked up shit under my breath
daring creek
Intrusive thoughts
a lot yea
opaque coyote
Tourettes basically is like if your intrusive thoughts were put on blast. Even if it was literally a split second thought
From my understanding at least
So even if you literally aren't racist in the slightest
There is a chance that you will shout out the nword for no reason
Although it's also different for each person
Although often tics are much simplier
I think this is like a severe case
opaque coyote
I do say fucked up shit under my breath
Usually things like grunting can count
arctic talon
wolf I need you to translate :C
I can only translate a chunk of it, some of it I can’t understand due to it being a dialect of mandarin I think
One moment
opaque coyote
Basically it depends because psychology is complicated
And also the brain is an unknowable bitch
And if God exists
Then why the fuck didn't he tell us how our brain works
daring creek
"I LOVE FLOWERS"
HAIL THE GOD EMPEROR
Thatd be awesome
Honestly not a bad idea
Some khornate heretic uncontrollably saying royalist rhetoric
And his buddys respecting that
:)
daring creek
And also the brain is an unknowable bitch
The least understood organ information
arctic talon
wolf I need you to translate :C
Today ????? using this to kill cockroaches and see what happens.
This place has had this cockroach since yesterday, they like to sleep here.
Aim at the cockroach (I do not understand wtf he is saying but I get the idea here: turn on the gas wait a bit(???))
press the trigger ???? this is too incredible/intense
daring creek
I mostly have intrusive thoughts, and anxiety. And saying screwed up thoughts extinguish it sometimes
vagrant fox
I can only translate a chunk of it, some of it I can’t understand due to it bein...
Apparently it's mandarin with a malaysian cantonese accent
Sounds funky
arctic talon
huh
do they speak canto during it
bcs I deadass cannot tell what they are saying for some chunks
and it sounds like canto to me
opaque coyote
Cantonese according to my Mandrin speaking dad
Kinda sounds the same but the words writing are worse in terms of understanding
vagrant fox
Oh it might be an ai voice?
daring creek
How many of you are of Asian descent
arctic talon
cantonese is not mutually intelligible aside from some words
but I hear mandarin during it
oh is it an AI voice
bruh
daring creek
How would you know its ai voice
vagrant fox
Im reading it's guangxi ai voice or malay cantonese accent, I don't know enough
daring creek
Im probably super uncultured when it comes to my own country but language sounds so much more complicated in asia
opaque coyote
How would you know its ai voice
Parts sort of crackle
Harder to tell if you don't speak the language tbh
vagrant fox
`Today [I] made a super large pulse cannon.
Let's see how it is when I use it to exterminate cockroaches.
This here is still the cockroach from yesterday. Seems like it likes to sleep here.
Aim directly at the cockroach. Start to release gas. This [gun] needs more gas release to work.
Press the trigger.
Boom.
Oh my god. This is too intense.
Scared the sh*t out of even me.
Cockroach is not moving at all, just lying like a wooden plank.
Pulse cannon is very good for exterminating cockroaches.`
apparently
opaque coyote
Im probably super uncultured when it comes to my own country but language sounds...
Yesn't.
English is apparently extremely esoteric for anybody trying to learn it
daring creek
opaque coyote
Because English and a language like Chinese or Japanese are different
daring creek
Hm.
opaque coyote
In their base rule set
vagrant fox
How many of you are of Asian descent
I'm at a very chinese time in my life so like 1% spiritually
opaque coyote
Hm.
English is a bunch of letters put together to form a thing that creates a meaning.
The letters are always the same just put into different arrangements to mean something.
For Chinese, Japanese, and Korean. Each symbol is a different word itself with its own meaning. With a completely different picture for each one. There is no consistent set of letters to combine.
cerulean trellis
celest cedar
How many of you are of Asian descent
Im southeast asian so furthest away from the chinese
daring creek
English is a bunch of letters put together to form a thing that creates a meanin...
That makes those languages just as esoteric to us lol.
opaque coyote
How many of you are of Asian descent
Chinese
daring creek
Nice
outer wave
How many of you are of Asian descent
Late, but Im half filipino
cerulean trellis
<- celtic
opaque coyote
Han as far as I'm aware.
opaque coyote
Rn is not the best time
daring creek
Oh yeah right
opaque coyote
But yeah I have thought about doing it someday
daring creek
My family members will do it someday prolly
outer wave
MIGHT be jamican
You ever asked your parents?
daring creek
Lmfao
daring creek
You ever asked your parents?
They don't know either
Going by my mother's last name. Might be britsh
cerulean trellis
well mum's mainly celtic with soem germanic, dad is germanic with traces of hunic
arctic talon
`Today [I] made a super large pulse cannon.
Let's see how it is when I use it t...
Let's see what happens when I use it to exterminate cockroaches.
This here is the cockroach from yesterday. Seems like it likes to sleep here.
Aim directly at the cockroach. Start to release gas. You need to let more gas out
Press the trigger/button.
Oh my god/dear heavens. This is too intense.
Scared me.
Cockroach is not moving at all, just lying like a wooden plank.
Pulse gun is very good for killing cockroaches.
Whats hunic exactly?
daring creek
British. French. Whats its and whatever
vagrant fox
Going through your ancestry is very cool even if it turns out you can place the last 500 years within a 70 kilometers diameter like me
cerulean trellis
Whats hunic exactly?
Attila the Hun was hunic ^^
daring creek
Slaves I'm pretty sure have their masters last names
outer wave
Attila the Hun was hunic ^^
Ahhh I see I see
vagrant fox
```Today I made a Pulse gun.
Let's see what happens when I use it to extermina...
The idea of a cockroach that just likes to chill in a specific spot tickles me idk why
arctic talon
Likes it i guess lol
daring creek
The idea of a cockroach that just likes to chill in a specific spot tickles me i...
No I'm pretty sure that guy fell on his back
He would've been fuckin running
vagrant fox
Or it's chill
vagrant fox
Fake news
vagrant fox
I've never even seen a cockroach but I trust this one to be cool
celest cedar
what flag is that
arctic talon
Who were supposed to be blue again, the mongols?
Mongols
arctic talon
what flag is that
Chinese 5 races under one union flag
Red: Han, Yellow: Manchu’s, Blue: mongols, White: Muslims, Black: Tibetans
Surprised they didn’t pick green for Muslims considering the association between Chinese Muslims and the color green
lament shoal
Why is that at a pride parade lmao
celest cedar
oooh
vagrant fox
Why is that at a pride parade lmao
The tiebetans and manchu need a little pride
celest cedar
Red: Han, Yellow: Manchu’s, Blue: mongols, White: Muslims, Black: Tibetans
is that like something in mainland China, calling for race equality?
vagrant fox
It went out of use around 1930ish
arctic talon
is that like something in mainland China, calling for race equality?
It was a thing back in the 1910’s to try to establish a sense of Chinese nationalism despite all the ethnic groups in China saying they’re all Chinese
Because before this was a extremely controversial thing
lol
The goal was to get rid of racial segregation and have integration occur
How successful this plan was is uh questionable
vagrant fox
Well almost no one speaks manchu anymore so very, right
arctic talon
💀
celest cedar
christ
vagrant fox
Man is the helldivers community just disintegrating
arctic talon
After the Qing dynasty collapsed
vagrant fox
Bit sad
arctic talon
Manchuko was basically the last nail in the coffin
arctic talon
christ
For context a majority of the population of Manchus did not speak Manchurian even under the Qing dynasty.
Manchu culture was literally killing itself as the ruling class of China 💀
vital ginkgo
Is the emperor any kind of abhuman or just a baseline human?
rose thorn
He is a psyker
vital ginkgo
He is a psyker
So a baseline human?
arctic talon
Psykers are abhumans technically
vagrant fox
At least Puyi had it better than the Romanovs
rose thorn
I…. He is like 7 people at once
outer wave
Man is the helldivers community just disintegrating
Whats going on?
arctic talon
I mean an actual abhuman
Under imperial law they are actual abhumans
rose thorn
He’s literally Magic
vital ginkgo
Under imperial law they are actual abhumans
I'm not an Imperial I'm a fan of 40k
vagrant fox
Emps was just a dude, albeit a psyker
vital ginkgo
What is his subspecies?
storm jungle
Is the emperor any kind of abhuman or just a baseline human?
Hes "human" but by no means is he baseline. Hes a superpsyker.
thats it really
arctic talon
What is his subspecies?
Anatolian?
storm jungle
hes a Hittite yeah
vagrant fox
Homo Sapien Sapiens but wacky
arctic talon
Yeah
vital ginkgo
Hes "human" but by no means is he baseline. Hes a superpsyker.
So a super psyker baseline human would be an accurate way to call him?
storm jungle
So a super psyker baseline human would be an accurate way to call him?
Hes not baseline
hes just a superpsyker
like his entire birth contains the souls of thousands of shamans
limpid granite
he has primordial powers inside of him
storm jungle
he was neve ra normal person
lament shoal
So a super psyker baseline human would be an accurate way to call him?
Emps is the one on the bottom
vital ginkgo
like his entire birth contains the souls of thousands of shamans
I thought that was old lore, not to be taken as scripture anymore?
limpid granite
if they were able to create a god
storm jungle
I thought that was old lore, not to be taken as scripture anymore?
Its never been retconned
and the current lore we have never reveals his origin aside from him being born with super-psyker powers
vagrant fox
Whats going on?
Someone posted a lame challenge to the devs for $1000 with a shitty loadout
Said person got doxxed and threatened
Main subreddit mods acting like they always do, banning people
Now people are negatively reviewing the game
vital ginkgo
and the current lore we have never reveals his origin aside from him being born ...
Ok. Also what was his opinion on abhumans/non baseline subspecies? Similar to modern Imperial opinion?
storm jungle
Ok. Also what was his opinion on abhumans/non baseline subspecies? Similar to mo...
Exterminated
limpid granite
Someone posted a lame challenge to the devs for $1000 with a shitty loadout
Said...
his volunteering job also got death threats
storm jungle
he was literally hitler basically lol
arctic talon
Ok. Also what was his opinion on abhumans/non baseline subspecies? Similar to mo...
Same as modern imperial opinion
storm jungle
the entire view people have on abhumans/mutants in 40k is ENTIRELY from his teachings
vital ginkgo
Exterminated
So no using ogryn or anything?
storm jungle
he wanted the human species to be "pure"
storm jungle
So no using ogryn or anything?
They can be used
but thats all they'll be
Literally a slave species
arctic talon
So no using ogryn or anything?
Use abhumans until they’re no longer useful
Then they get exterminated
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
Psykers (maybe) being the exception
It’s unclear what he had in mind for psykers exactly
vital ginkgo
Is there any written justification he had for that view?
arctic talon
Is there any written justification he had for that view?
No, he wanted humanity to be pure
vital ginkgo
Hm
vital ginkgo
No, he wanted humanity to be pure
Was he going to kill himself once this goal was accomplished? Lol
vagrant fox
Probably not
arctic talon
Maybe he would have killed homself
storm jungle
He says he'd let humanity rule itself but a lot of things we see point both towards but away from that lol
arctic talon
But prolly not
storm jungle
(totally not due to multiple shit writers)
arctic talon
There’s both indication he would and wouldn’t
storm jungle
Also the thing is like
arctic talon
But yeah multiple writers moment
storm jungle
we'd simply go back to eventually killing each other lol
vital ginkgo
He seems kinda bi polar
storm jungle
bro has no idea how humanity works
vagrant fox
Back to playing shadowmaster is my guess
storm jungle
He seems kinda bi polar
Its called bad writing
every time an author writers the Emperor they do their own take on him
and the fandom tries to justify it
when it makes no fucking sense lmao
last stone
vital ginkgo
Like Hitler
storm jungle
yeah id agree
vagrant fox
We'll cooperate on these books to make everyone as dumb as possible
storm jungle
no tyrant is ever a genius or "sane"
like he could have literally been someone like Sigmar
making a federation of alliances etc
arctic talon
Sigmar is normal
hollow lantern
It's functionally impossible to write a character smarter than you, the emperor is supposed to be exceptionally smart and he's written by BL. You can do the math, I'm sure.
arctic talon
Everything after fuck no lol
storm jungle
It's functionally impossible to write a character smarter than you, the emperor ...
the best example is Dr Manhattan imo
hes just
"I dont care. Im leaving."
most realistic reaction from a literal god lol
arctic talon
storm jungle
also that line of "Im tired of their little problems and little minds. Its endless."
hollow lantern
https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941
I wish the movie unmasked him like the comics for this
vagrant fox
His stupid hat flying away is always mesmerising
hollow lantern
daring creek
What is the chaos equivalent of salamanders
daring creek
Narrative
daring creek
Death Guard
Right I thought that too because I read they're actually pretty jovial
hollow lantern
Right I thought that too because I read they're actually pretty jovial
Uhhhh
hollow lantern
They're big, durable, and like flamers.
rose thorn
I HATE THE OVERWATCH SERVERS AAAAAAAAAAAAA
arctic talon
He plagiarized other people’s war memoirs from his like
hollow lantern
Idk about narratively
hollow lantern
Im honestly not sure who'd even compare
dark moon
The same war he was in
Imagine being that unimaginative.
hollow lantern
Salamanders books are something I avoid tho
dark moon
How *nice* are salamanders exactly
arctic talon
It varies