40k-lore-chat

[lament shoal]

He's tired of the late game grind

[opaque coyote]

Vashtorr is somebody who refuses to use a ""new"" exp farming method out of sheer spite

Honestly I like to compare Chaos Gods to Late stage capitalism

Because

A) It's funny

B) it fits surprisingly well on how to explain the hierarchy and ladder

Basically

The Chaos Gods are like big tech companies rn

Technically not monopolies but they are in complete control of their respective niches

Like how Amazon is the most popular for delivery

Each Cultist is the lowest ranking employee. Signed on with the promise of the work benefits

Immortality (Healthcare plan), Boons (payment), etc.

But they slowly realize that these benefits have fine print, or are usually impossible to get

With other higher ranking employees encouraging a constant grind (faith in the gods)

To become a higher ranking employee, you have to fuck over your peers.

But even then, due to bad luck, you might get fired and stuck in a life of homelessness due to being out of a job (Chaos Spawn)

[storm jungle]

Me when i discover the concept of exploitation and labor

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

Chaos is really just that but on a huge scale

[storm jungle]

no

[arctic talon]

Karl Marx would love labubu and Dubai chocolate

[lament shoal]

The 1% have been revealed to be chaos worshippers and should be eradicated via exterminatus

[limpid granite]

i heard that dubai chocolate was made a trend to cover up some "acts" done in saudi arabia

you can guess what

[fervent geode]

He would use Engels money for 100 Labubus i cant blame him

[arctic talon]

He would absolutely get macha and complain about capitalism

[lament shoal]

Would he have nail extensions

[opaque coyote]

Apparently he was actually what we would call a "Day trader"

[jade holly]

Labubu vs Funk Pop

[lament shoal]

Be all girlypop

[arctic talon]

No

[opaque coyote]

And he also fucking sucked at trading stocks

He was also an economist

[fervent geode]

Fr, in an interview you see his funkos pops behind him

[arctic talon]

You know what Marx said about some queer people and sex workers right lol

[opaque coyote]

And economists are ironically very bad at investments

[fervent geode]

I know some, can confirm

[lament shoal]

I can guess lmao

[arctic talon]

Marx identified everything wrong with capitalism then came up with the shittiest solutions ever

Then complained about other communists

10/10

[opaque coyote]

Yeah he was homophobic

[arctic talon]

He’s like almost every other communist intellectual

[limpid granite]

same thing with che

[fervent geode]

Marx was very good as seeing things, not good at fixing

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it was also the late 1800s

Which like

[limpid granite]

dont read on what he thought of nigerians at the time

[opaque coyote]

A lot of people were homophobic at the time

Obviously

[vagrant fox]

https://klipy.com/gifs/as-you-should-worthikids

[arctic talon]

Is this why ATLUS transfemmed Che as a persona/hj

[opaque coyote]

He mainly underestimated how greedy people can get

[fervent geode]

He was too utopian, you need a mix, i think bakunin called him out on this

[opaque coyote]

And also how putting the power of things like a country's fucking economy onto a single person or several people's hands is

Bad

...cough

Tbf there also shouldn't be no regulation either

Which leads to the popular argument of "How much should the government interfere with the economy?"

With varied answers and results

[fervent geode]

Dictatorship of the working class inevitably turns into the rule of a new ruling class ostensibly from the proletariat but self serving and against their best interests

[opaque coyote]

But generally most (sane) people can agree that either ends of the extreme are dogshit and does not work

[fervent geode]

Bakunin predicted the Nomenklatura

[vagrant fox]

the dang horse?

[fervent geode]

The Soviet Ruling Class of Bureaucrats and Party Officials who live better than most of the proletarian masses horse, yes

[opaque coyote]

I remember my high school economy textbook pointed out how things like East Germany had less advanced technology due to how communism doesn't really do well to make people innovate.

But it also makes me think about how Enshittification is a similar thing on the capitalist end.

Because Enshittification isn't innovation

It's the opposite

It hampers services and applications to squeeze money out of people or for some other benefit. Usually to provide the exact same service, just worse

And lately things like Tesla are much less advanced than Chinese ECs

So it makes me think that extremes in both economies eventually lead to innovation stagnation to a degree

[fervent geode]

My economics teacher taught me this, capital grows monstrous in the hands of the self serving if unrestrained, ending innovation and new products to protect existing production lines, yet if the state completely seizes the means of producton there will be no competition driven innovation leading to stagnation and possible economic control by a ruling class akin to a statist version of capitalist oligarchy

Or something i slept in class whenever i could

[opaque coyote]

This might sound blindingly obvious to some who read my statements. But my school and also some people taught me that Capitalism at least encouraged innovation

[fervent geode]

It does in the beginning

But eventually when the trust funders and the oligarchs arise they quickly seize all of it and restrain it to serve them

[opaque coyote]

I would argue that communism also does in the beginning.

But both systems have a form of rot in general

Both for the exact same reason.

An Oligarchy taking control and cutting it off for their own purposes

[fervent geode]

In the early stages of collectivisation and enthusiasm sure

[arctic talon]

This is why they should make me supreme ruler so I can reshape society with an iron fist/j

[opaque coyote]

Then again I am not an economist so idk

[fervent geode]

Not for long though

[opaque coyote]

Capitalism arguably lasts longer in innovation at least?

Arguably

[lament shoal]

Surely it'll work this time around!

[vagrant fox]

no me

[fervent geode]

Easier for a ruling nomenclature to arise in statist structures

[arctic talon]

No me

I deserve to be god king

[vagrant fox]

I am more virtuous and selfless I should be god emperor

[fervent geode]

Sigsen EliteWolf civil war
10090000 dead

[opaque coyote]

And thus the 40k-lore-chat Heresy commenced

[fervent geode]

Tbh China is basically State Capitalist now

Deng Dengified it

[opaque coyote]

But yeah, there definitely needs to be some regulation to stop bad actors

[fervent geode]

Defo

Ancap doesnt work lmfao

Even Hayek says so

[opaque coyote]

Bioshock is an example

[arctic talon]

Dengism fixed “communism” by making it state capitalism

[fervent geode]

Ironically yeah defo

[arctic talon]

lol

[fervent geode]

Shhhh 6 Modernisations its like Lenin yknow when he did the NEP and made... state capitalism

[opaque coyote]

Although tbf it was also made to mainly make fun of a famous ancap supporter.

You know her.

You probably despise her.

Ayn Rand

[fervent geode]

Rand was nuts

[opaque coyote]

Like BioShock as a game is literally just take every ideal Ayn Rand presents

[fervent geode]

She wasnt very respected among the economist community, for obvious reasons

[opaque coyote]

And then showing exactly

How it goes wrong

Along with extra magical drugs to add to the chaos

[arctic talon]

Rand is stupid

[opaque coyote]

Oh 100%

She was also incredibly stubborn and basically did a lot of

"LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

To anybody who tried to criticize her

[fervent geode]

Ayn Rand wrote Atlas Shrugged and then got a bunch of insane cultists

Then she decided to either go insane or mask off

[opaque coyote]

The worst part is that Atlas Shrugged is a banger title

[fervent geode]

Probably mask off

[opaque coyote]

And I wish I could use it

[fervent geode]

Ive heard its ok i havent read it

[opaque coyote]

But they would all mistake it for the fucking book

FUCK

[fervent geode]

But after she defo went insane

Btw

[opaque coyote]

It's basically Ayn Rand's insane ideas

If you analyze it for a bit

[fervent geode]

ATLAS SHRUGGED IS A NOVEL

[opaque coyote]

Like every single idea she presents

[fervent geode]

NOT A ECONOMIC TEXT SHE WASNT AN ECONOMIST

[opaque coyote]

It's her version of a utopia

[fervent geode]

And its a crack dream

[opaque coyote]

Basically

[fervent geode]

Its fucking bioshcok

As you said

[opaque coyote]

Except not under the sea

And without drugs

[fervent geode]

So more ass

Great

[opaque coyote]

And it somehow goes well

Ignoring logic entirely

[fervent geode]

I think she abandoned logic at some point and just went on

[opaque coyote]

I suggest you read it, it's absolutely awful. But it's worth reading because it's basically a showing of how people can imagine utopias

But they are obviously biased because it's THEIR utopia

[fervent geode]

I will if i can

[opaque coyote]

And it wouldn't fit for others

[fervent geode]

Well rand is rand so heh

[opaque coyote]

It's similar to how

The original concept of Utopia had slaves

Like the original Greek utopia

It kinda shows how Utopias... well if they are possible, then we are far from ever being there

And it might not be worth the cost

[fervent geode]

Utopia is a pipedream generally

[opaque coyote]

Utopias and Dystopias are valuable though

[fervent geode]

True

[opaque coyote]

Like how Superman is the ideal hero

[fervent geode]

They show you something

[opaque coyote]

To the point where ""deconstructing"" him is a tired trope itself

[fervent geode]

Its not possible but we can aspire to be close to something, and wholly avoid becoming something else

[opaque coyote]

And even then most of the time they don't really deconstruct him

Like Superman had a stable upbringing

Note how none of the "evil versions" ever had that

At least the famous ones

Homelander was experimented on as a kid and was basically tortured. It was obvious that he was gonna be a shit person

Omniman was raised in a eugenicist fascist empire and literally never knew love until he came to Earth

That's why he changed ironically enough

On an unrelated note

I wish for more viltrum content

Specifically before the (comic spoilers?) ||plague that killed most of them||

Cause the comic didn't really go into detail on how their society was

And we never get to see many glimpses of things like their government and day to day lives

Honestly an episode focusing on that would be interesting

Especially if the PoV is somebody like Conquest having a flashback

[fervent geode]

Tbh yeah

Id like to see like at least one show about viltrum, maybe like an invincible better call saul

[opaque coyote]

Also beef is banned in Bioshock

Counts as contraband since cows aren't in rapture for obvious reasons

Too costly to feed

How can it be a utopia when you can't get a cheeseburger smh

[daring creek]

fake meat prolly

[fervent geode]

Bruh

0/10 would destroy the city again - Atlas

[nocturne crest]

Pretty sure she also got money from the government despite her stance.

[opaque coyote]

Also she was a fan of public travel and railways

While most of her successors and ardent supporters now hate trains

So

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-muppets-meme-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-16984538577250620315

[opaque coyote]

Also for all of her talk of rational self interest. In general she really didn't follow it throughout her life

Her inner circle was basically a cult

She justified her affair with Nathaniel Brandon as two titans of philosophy engaging in a consensual union!

Problem was that she was FUCKING MARRIED

Same with Brandon

And when Brandon himself sought to pursue a new intimate relationship

She disowned him from her circle and dehumanized him among her followers

She was only interested in self interest when it was for her

She also had a sexual thing for a guy who kidnapped and murdered a girl

So she would've been one of the women who loved Ted Bundy

Her philosophy was never a philosophy

It was a woman's attempt to control the world around her

[storm jungle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-cute-cat-83

[storm jungle]

🔇

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if people think of Rand as a girlboss nowadays.

[storm jungle]

some deffo do

when like

she was the definition of a redditor incel

lmao

[vagrant fox]

Some certain types do

We've got all sorts these days

[rigid dune]

What are some obscure 40k lore you think more people should know about?

[rocky gale]

Did you know that the Primarch of the Space Wolves, despite being called Leman Russ is not actually a Leman Russ Battle Tank

[fervent geode]

Lorgar can speak someone to death in a word

Enuncia

He can even make words of power

[rocky gale]

You can tell the difference if you look closely enough

[celest dome]

Would have been oh so much cooler if he had been though

[fervent geode]

I still cant tbh

They are both kinda beige

[rocky gale]

Yea you just have to keep in mind that one faces left and the other....

Oh shit they're both facing left

[fervent geode]

Cmon its the same pixture

[vagrant fox]

racism🫵

[fervent geode]

Yes i hate Fenrisians

And the Fenris coloir

[vagrant fox]

You know that's fair

[winter pine]

average thousand sons sorcerer:

[jade holly]

Rip

High guard’s shutting down on the 12th

[languid meadow]

I blame Geoff for this partially ngl

highguard def wouldn't have gotten the amount of hate it did if it wasn't fucking hyped up at the GA

[limpid granite]

what did geoff see in the game

[languid meadow]

idk

[jade holly]

I know the game wasn’t good

[languid meadow]

but I just feel bad for the devs

[jade holly]

But I still had fun on it

And that’s the important thing

[arctic talon]

It’s like a solid 5 to 6/10 game

It’s mid to above it but like

💀

[sacred ginkgo]

A director in his lap on his bed

[winter pine]

Wasn't the issue that it's yet another hero shooter like 6+ years late to the party

[jade holly]

It wasn’t even a hero shooter

It was more like Apex

[spring cairn]

it's apparently decent

[jade holly]

That’s the big thing, it didn’t advertise itself well

[spring cairn]

nothing to ride home abouatr

[jade holly]

For the longest time people thought it was a hero shooter

[spring cairn]

i dinnt get to play it so i don't judge

but it was doa cuz of the reception

even if it had been a 10 it would've died

[jade holly]

It’s still playable

It’s not closing until the 12th

[winter pine]

Being a regular battle royale probably isn't cutting it now

[spring cairn]

i don't want to

i must play deadlock all day

[rocky gale]

Everytime I go to the subreddit I'm disappointed

[winter pine]

I think the extraction shooter angle of being a loot goblin really hooked people more

[jade holly]

It wasn’t a BR either tbh. The gunplay was comparable to Apex but it was mainly a base sieging game with an open world looting section in between

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[winter pine]

I need to finally just gas myself up to play Deadlock because it looks like a bunch of fun

[arctic talon]

Do you not have a code lol

[winter pine]

I do but I just can't ever seem to commit to just playing a match

[wintry cloud]

Is this bait? Theres barely a difference

[rocky gale]

No, they are this petty

[celest dome]

How does one even get to have a code isn't it invite only ?

[arctic talon]

First wave was invite only from the devs, but they each got a +5

And each person they invited got a +5

Ect.

Now each person gets as many invites as they want to give out

[celest dome]

Don't think any of my friend is even playing it 💀

[rocky gale]

I got my invite direct from the Deadlock devs because I'm a star

and then infected all my friends with it

and didn't even play it myself

[winter pine]

https://youtu.be/UmZbkkanfOk

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/TauCetiGG/status/2028899979713232943?s=20

Marathon Bulletin (@TauCetiGG)

‼️NEW LOOK AT COMPILERS

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▶ Play video

FxTwitter · Mar 3, 2026, 6:27 PM

[limpid granite]

me playing grace in first person

[spring cairn]

it is

[rocky gale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sad-batman-C3j

[vagrant fox]

Iron Lung is definitely a movie of all time

Pacing was a little weird

[daring creek]

Only so much you can do in a submarine death trap

[vagrant fox]

like so

[plush mason]

wtf

[winter pine]

most delicious item at the 70s dinner party

[vagrant fox]

Gelatin is cool as hell

[plush mason]

was it new in the 70s or something? because it seems to be everywhere in dishes from that era

[vagrant fox]

or aspics I suppose

Between it suddenly becoming very easy to make and it being a food for the rich it just got crazy

Fridges and boxes to make the stuff made it very easy all of a sudden

It did decline in the 70s and 80s but folk had decent cameras and whatnot then

[wintry scarab]

Speaking of food, hear me out. This shit goes hard.

[vagrant fox]

maybe not that one

I've seen a bunch I'd like to try though

Sometimes some meat jelly on liver paste is proper good tell you hwat

with onions naturally

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/delicious-polish-food-most-delicious-food-in-poland-most-delicious-food-stew-gif-17721373425529075853

[rose thorn]

My partner is saying SM 2 runs like ass now

[vagrant fox]

The new map does for me at random times

Sudden framedrops to below 30 and stuttering

[wintry scarab]

No joke. Id eat that

[vagrant fox]

Just add some pasta

I've been eating so much rice and chickpeas anything is starting to look appetizing

[urban spire]

widespread consumer fridges were new

[winter pine]

when the game dev has to hide that they don't have the rights to a real life brand but has to make the game modern day:

[urban spire]

also brands would release little free pamphlets full of recipes that used their product as a marketing thing

mostly pure dogshit recipes

[plush mason]

makes sense

[winter pine]

Thinking of how everyone boiled vegetables as the standard until like a decade ago is torture

[urban spire]

and just threw out the potlikker

i need to learn to make good potlikker

[vagrant fox]

Why not make something sensible like smalahove

[rocky gale]

[heady rivet]

https://x.com/B00K0FTRIBE/status/1854169377970725262?s=20

💫Tribe 13X (33-21)🔻 💫 (@B00K0FTRIBE)

*March 3rd 2026*

Elon Musk: you’re kicking me out of my position as the head of dank memery & toxic waste reduction?go fuck yourself! *starts running up towards Trump* FUS RO DAH

Kanye West, Head of The Department of Blacks:

X · Nov 6, 2024, 2:30 PM

[vagrant fox]

Too American

[sacred bluff]

https://fixupx.com/PlayHighguard/status/2028923492125819287

Highguard (@PlayHighguard)

📰 Highguard’s final update arriving soon. Thank you for playing with us.
Today we’re sharing difficult news. We have made the decision to permanently shut down Highguard on March 12.

Since launch, more than 2 million players stepped into Highguard’s world. You shared feedback, created content, and many believed in what we were building. For that, we are deeply grateful.

Despite the passion and hard work of our team, we have not been able to build a sustainable player base to support the game long term. Servers will remain online until March 12th. We hope you’ll jump in with us one more time to show your support and get those final great matches in while we still can.

The team is excited to release one final game update to enjoy in the remaining life of the game. We'll be adding a new Warden, a new weapon, account level progression, and skill trees! Full patch notes are coming, and we're targeting tonight or tomorrow morning for patch release.

From all of us…

FixupX · Mar 3, 2026, 8:00 PM

[sterile sun]

crazy lore we're getting here

[vagrant fox]

Yea

People usually just chat until some lore thing comes up

[rocky gale]

Yea if you want lore ask a lore question, until then we just chat

[plush mason]

^

[urban spire]

trying to go vegetarian + don't really like sheep + shut the fuck up

[vagrant fox]

damn, hater

It kind of sucks to eat tbf I'll let it slide

[lament shoal]

Wasn't this the hero shooter that they advertised as being fresh and unique even though it wasn't?

[vagrant fox]

More or less

[winter pine]

Apparently it was like a mash up of hero shooter and extraction shooter looting?

[vagrant fox]

It seemed to have a semi-decent foundation I just didn't care

[winter pine]

Seemed like just distilled mid

[urban spire]

huh?

k

someone posted some wild shit and deleted it, for context

[vagrant fox]

These things happen

[storm jungle]

"Wow this channel blows!"

and everyone is like

"Ok."

goes back to whatever the topic was

lol

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[storm jungle]

Real.

or literally only comes in when nobody is talking about some lore thing and jumps to an assumption

[vagrant fox]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[young pecan]

I thought we only got those types in zealot chat, but I guess they show up here too

[vagrant fox]

Happens rarely

[nocturne crest]

I saw the food talk and then found this again.

[young pecan]

Like dude if we talked about only the channel topic exclusively and forever, the channel would die because people would not come here as frequently

[young pecan]

Death penalty

[plush mason]

ngl the pudding is tempting as is the ice cream

[rocky gale]

It's like walking into a kitchen, seeing a group of people having a conversation and going "Excuse me but isn't this place for cooking"

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-that-fits-yeah-that-fits-gif-22103625

Evil as usual

[rocky gale]

I kinda want to try a Dr Pepper dog

[heady rivet]

I'm summoned

https://tenor.com/view/catalinaville-steve-rambo-good-morning-gif-628423070838336473

[vagrant fox]

I saw nutella ice cream and my blood sugar spiked just from looking at it

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/catalinaville-steve-rambo-good-night-gif-17022283769966515880

[vagrant fox]

So sad gachimuchi died and Van Sama is a twitch streamer

[nocturne crest]

Are lotus biscuits a thing in the USA?

[young pecan]

I've never heard of them

[rocky gale]

Oh shit, yesterday was the anniversary of Aniki's death

[young pecan]

Oh Biscoffs

Yeah I fucking love those

[vagrant fox]

Oh shoot it was

[rocky gale]

Listen to gachi to remember him

[vagrant fox]

I already did listen to some yesterday but but I still forgot

[rocky gale]

Sleep tight Aniki

[forest orbit]

Man I should get more Dr Pepper.... even though I probably shouldn't

[sterile sun]

is there a lore reason why the guard primaris-ed their gear

[storm jungle]

They didnt primaris anything

[vagrant fox]

Deeply mysterious that practically every single gachi remix has Russian comments

[storm jungle]

its still shitty flak and shitty lasguns

[vagrant fox]

Elaborate on this

[storm jungle]

He likely means the new cadian minis

[sterile sun]

primaris in the sense that they refreshed their chunky ass helmets and got different pattern lasguns

[storm jungle]

GW simply wanted to upgrade the minis because the old Cadian guardsmen were chunky as fuck and looked weird, its just new molds

and they still use kantreals

its in the kit

[sterile sun]

yeah ive bought a few of those lasguns

[storm jungle]

the barrels are just longer

[vagrant fox]

Ah yeah it's just new molds and a bit upgraded aesthetics

[storm jungle]

the garand one is just for more archaic WW2 callbacks

[storm jungle]

and yeah its just newer molds ^

like- the old cadians were very much not great lol

butthey helpd up pretty well-ish

[sterile sun]

goopenheimer

[rocky gale]

Yea it's the same gun

[vagrant fox]

It's not that huge of a difference, I appreciate the proportions

[vagrant fox]

Idk who Henry is

[rocky gale]

It's the same, but basically just differently proportioned

[sterile sun]

hes a guy

[vagrant fox]

GWs getting better at proportions very nice

Now to fix uhh, Votann or something

[rocky gale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kray-tom-hardy

They've got enough

Squat them again

[storm jungle]

Fucked up

[nocturne crest]

I hope it's not true and it's just the sun making shit up again, but I can see the BBC doing this shit: https://fixvx.com/OricorioWho/status/2028560227499417877?s=20

Rob✨️ (@OricorioWho)

https://t.co/qIuXVFX831

QRT: tvukzone
The Sun newspaper are reporting Billie Piper will not be playing The Doctor in the upcoming #DoctorWho Christmas special, adding "producers are trying to find a new Tardis dweller".

vxTwitter / fixvx • GIF · Mar 2, 2026, 7:57 PM

[vagrant fox]

Ok space marines

[rocky gale]

The Sun are probably the least reliable source of information

I wouldn't trust the Sun the tell me if I was on fire

[vagrant fox]

British newspapers in general

[rocky gale]

The Sun is barely a newspaper

People only bought it because it had pictures of naked women in it

[vagrant fox]

Actually GW should bring back chaos bikers

[vagrant fox]

Oldest trick in the book

[celest cedar]

zealot chat coded gif

[vagrant fox]

Gachi is too good for zealot chat

[cerulean trellis]

I was warned to never enter zealot chat

[celest cedar]

highkey

[celest cedar]

yeah

[storm jungle]

Cooked

[celest cedar]

OMG 6 7

[vagrant fox]

Ban this goof

[rocky gale]

I went into Zealot Chat once and they were talking about the best way to get Estrogen online

[celest cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170470415555117066/1467323909274603594/tenor.gif

[celest cedar]

pretty sure that was in context of lack of access to it

because Trump 💀

[rocky gale]

I didn't imagine it was because of an abundance of access

[vagrant fox]

It could be

Mexican cartels switching to producing it because of demand

[cerulean trellis]

Likein everz lgbtqia* servers mtf-trans channels xD

[sacred ginkgo]

Zealot chat is most of the time just self regulated general

[celest cedar]

mtf-trans channels #zealot-class

[sacred ginkgo]

Theres more here i think

Its like
Me and willow in zealot

Oh and puri

[celest cedar]

aint willow cis

[vagrant fox]

This is my moment to chud
I've been lurking in a server full of mtf and I gotta say, anime girls are not a realistic transition goal

[storm jungle]

never were never will be

exterminate anime at once

[cerulean trellis]

No they not xD

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah
But its fun to have dreams

[vagrant fox]

In this economy?

[rocky gale]

Yea not Anime, it's important to keep realistic goals

[cerulean trellis]

XD

Nice one

[vagrant fox]

Mtf Hideo Kojima is sensible, go on

[tough haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/347598466404319244/1478500084319780946/seal_of_doom_and_metal_pipe.mp4?ex=69a8a001&is=69a74e81&hm=868363151eb76e40593cb9f257591233aa5a4abc0135c428f80737d2a81dcf48&

[celest cedar]

anime proportions and characters are also just not true reflection of a person irl

[celest cedar]

this is arguably achievable xd

[cerulean trellis]

Magic

[rocky gale]

She's like 6ft7, that's the main unachievable part tbh

[vagrant fox]

But then how will I watch uncslop like Jin Roh

[vagrant fox]

Just do the bone breaking lengthening surgery

I know of one person who did that and now he can't walk

[celest cedar]

be a 6ft5 woman

the extra inches comes from the heel

now if only youre born 6ft5 😔

[rocky gale]

I hope you weren't born 6ft5

[arctic talon]

why tf would people do that

[rocky gale]

That sound very uncomfortable

[vagrant fox]

Insecurity

[celest cedar]

Im 5ft7 (170 cm)

[vagrant fox]

The guy I know of has dwarfism tbf

[celest cedar]

is he a looksmaxxer by any chance

[vagrant fox]

No

[sterile sun]

How many transitions have been performed on the mourningstar

[sacred ginkgo]

Lots

50000 at krall

[celest cedar]

I constantly rotate between both fanatics 💀

[sacred ginkgo]

So like 1-2 missions

[vagrant fox]

By Krall? Probably quite a few

[arctic talon]

Krall is really good at it

[celest cedar]

veteran dealing with body dysmorphia debuff

[vagrant fox]

The shit he can do is crazy

[storm jungle]

Krall can literally change your entire personality

transition surgery is like NOTHING

prob fucking comes with the memory swap package

[vagrant fox]

Isn't that Sefoni

[storm jungle]

man i wish it was that easy IRL

[celest cedar]

REAL

[storm jungle]

prob but he still does the bodily surgery

[storm jungle]

[vagrant fox]

True

[arctic talon]

Sefoni and Krall work really well together

[vagrant fox]

I wish Sefoni could brain scramble me so I could be productive

[celest cedar]

I love intentionally tilting people RP'ing Lash

[sacred ginkgo]

He can make you a foot taller while remaining proportional

Thats insane

What

[sterile sun]

A foot taller with one simple trick

[rocky gale]

Don't worry, we're just 10 years away from being able to put people in amniotic sacs to geneedit them

[vagrant fox]

I wonder what Krall could do if he really put his talent into it
Reject wrack class soon

[sacred ginkgo]

Stuff that would get him shot by his door guards for sure

[sterile sun]

The bogdanoff twins, Rinda and Rodin bogdanoff

[sacred ginkgo]

Also, monkey king is a compliment what

[storm jungle]

Bogdanoff?

Nah im more of a fan of Madam Bogomolova

[vagrant fox]

Dömp it

[celest cedar]

my movement lowkey goated

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/bogdanoff-dump-it-stocks-crypto-gif-20477588

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/liliya-bogomolova-liliya-bogomolova-outlast-trials-outlast-gif-148448987247206103

[storm jungle]

LMFAO CHRIST

https://media.tenor.com/qRqkS-7jeEgAAAAM/liliya-bogomolova.gif

[vagrant fox]

I've seen worse

[storm jungle]

Shes great

[sterile sun]

There's no flavour without dump

[celest cedar]

she highkey a freak

[vagrant fox]

She's really funny

[storm jungle]

She suggests killing rich people which is based

on the other hand she wants to mutilate me

actually i forgot DO thye explain why she wants to kill Reagents?

or is it just "shes a psychopath idk"

[sterile sun]

Maybe they're rich

[celest cedar]

she kills people that resists her charisma I.E mutilate yourselves

[storm jungle]

AH fair yeah

i forgot that bit

[rocky gale]

Didn't she like basically allow herself to get taken in so that she got more access to people to mutilate

[storm jungle]

That would check out.

Outlast devs write like warhammer tier amount of lore for this shit

[celest cedar]

yeah, she lets Nichols took her in, in exchange he mutilate himself too

no one is safe bro 💀

[storm jungle]

Let her cook

[rocky gale]

and if I remember rightfully she ended up charming and convinced he guy who was sent to capture her to mutilate himself, then willingly went with him anyway.

[storm jungle]

Yeah she did lmao

[rocky gale]

Based

[storm jungle]

ı was watching Gaming Harry's coverage on it, so cool

he really does this game justice and the characters especially

[vagrant fox]

The reagents is working, maybe a little unwillingly sometimes, for the ultimate bourgeoisie american government which doesn't help perhaps

[storm jungle]

Yeah theres like 7-8 event dumps in Season 2 iirc showing them across various operations.

Killing pro-black community politicians, sabotaging jails for american agents to escape, eliminating foreign aides etc

aka shit CIA has done IRL already lol

[celest cedar]

its heavily implied a reagent was the one to kill Patrice Lumumba

[vagrant fox]

I'm mr beastermans how high though I'll do anything for that A+ score compliment

[celest cedar]

seems CIA's investment paying off 💀

[vagrant fox]

I did a rebirth in Trials and my guy wakes up near butt naked in China having gotten some presumably important Chinese guy to OD

Hella cool

[storm jungle]

Yeah the guy you sleep/OD is behind the chinese nuclear program and rockets

theres a lot of hints in the apartment if you arent distracted by the gloriously sexy and totally attractive Mao poster

[vagrant fox]

I did look at it a lot

[celest cedar]

he spider on my eye til I lamb

[storm jungle]

STOP IT

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[vagrant fox]

No it's a +2

I love the VA for Franco is the guy who did Buster Baxter

[storm jungle]

Hes so funny too tbh

too much milk

[vagrant fox]

Hell yea cool filename

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/gachi-billy-herrington-man-bar-gif-20937924

[vagrant fox]

I don't know why that's on my phone

[storm jungle]

Hell yeah I would

I expect to be paid 100 bucks though

[heady rivet]

The baby is your ideological opponent

[storm jungle]

Ideological? Nah. Opponent? Sure.

https://klipy.com/gifs/baby-punch-that-hurt

[vagrant fox]

Also speaking of trans the new Krieg book has a krieger with the most default ass normal guy name I know of, Jens. I've known a small horde of Jenses by now
But it's a woman and I don't know if it's intentional. Mildly amusing though

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[vagrant fox]

Babies are ontologically evil I'd punch one for free

[storm jungle]

and you thumbsdown me

goddamn hypocrite

[vagrant fox]

Franco doesn't deserve it

[storm jungle]

HES NOT A BABY

HES AN ADULT MAN

[heady rivet]

If we're chudding over trans can I ask, in all honesty and with no hatred or malice, why do FtMs dress like 8th grade boys

[arctic talon]

do you not like Alice lol

[zenith prairie]

So who do you all think will be the third imperial guard regiment?

[storm jungle]

who tf is FtM

[storm jungle]

Where, i ndorktide?

[arctic talon]

Wdym "third imperial guard regiment"

for mini refreshes?

catachan

its been obvious since 8e

[storm jungle]

OH lmao

[zenith prairie]

yeah

[arctic talon]

Its catachan

[storm jungle]

yeah its Catachan 100%

[arctic talon]

I'm 10000% sure

[vagrant fox]

The horse? The horse is very good

[storm jungle]

because like

[arctic talon]

🐴

[storm jungle]

they've been in IG stuff since what

20 years?

[arctic talon]

longer

lol

[storm jungle]

i think even more actually

[heady rivet]

ATTILLAN ROUGH RIDERS

[storm jungle]

yeah lmao

[arctic talon]

but catachan have consistantly been

extremely popular

since their introduction

[storm jungle]

Yeah the rambo shit is great for marketing

[arctic talon]

Even though their minis are old as fuck now

[heady rivet]

They're blowing up Catachan next

[arctic talon]

LOL

[zenith prairie]

.....one day, steel legion will get theres

[arctic talon]

the truth that hurts every single person who likes a guard regiment who got discontinued

[storm jungle]

They will tbh

just not anytime soon

[arctic talon]

is that they weren't popular enough

[storm jungle]

lmao

[arctic talon]

There's no other reason

they lost the popularity contest lol

[vagrant fox]

Catachan don't deserve it, give the Steel Legion a chance to show their value

[heady rivet]

In the future you only get a range refresh if your planet gets blowed up

[arctic talon]

my favorite regiment is gona be in hell forever bruh

[storm jungle]

Also Elite i need spoilers, whats the main synopsis of the Krieg book, like setting/planet + whos the enemy

[arctic talon]

Vostroyans are stuck in heck

[vagrant fox]

Honestly when the Athonian Tunnel Rats got into Darktide it was infinitely more than I'd ever hoped to see

[zenith prairie]

Does anyone like the praetorians?

Feels like they'll never come back

[heady rivet]

"Please God-Emperor, dont let me be born on a forge or hive world"

"Hello doctor where am I?"

"Востроыа"

[storm jungle]

the best part is for such a "who" regiment their cosmetics fucking SLAPPED

[storm jungle]

they are a bit too uh

racially insensitive-ish

so that might be why lol

[arctic talon]

Tau are the main villain and they're terrifying as shown
plot from the thing is

Commissars attached to the Death Korps of Krieg often have to rein in their regiment’s zeal as often as they inspire their troops, and that’s exactly the situation in which Valian Hesh finds himself. Separated from his own regiment and stranded on the dying world of Rezlan VI, Hesh is ordered to find the 472nd Siege Regiment of the Death Korps of Krieg and make them withdraw from the doomed planet – not an easy task as they ready themselves for a final suicidal assault on T’au Empire lines.

[vagrant fox]

Colonial stuff isn't so hot right now

[arctic talon]

Like

this is genuinely the most terrifying tau depiction in any book

that isn't Dark Coil

lol

[heady rivet]

The next Imperial Guard range refresh is the IDF

[arctic talon]

which has the IRL accurate drone striker Shas O'bama himself in command

[zenith prairie]

please no

[vagrant fox]

There's Kroot and I finally see, I love them now

[storm jungle]

Is it like

people are hanging out
a fucking tau plasma bolt blows someone apart

[arctic talon]

In a sense

lemme grab what the author had to say

[storm jungle]

Yeah i was gonna assume its like Ukraine-tier stuff

which is how the Tau would normally fight

[heady rivet]

Aw speaking of the Russians use Foxhole the videogame tactics now

[arctic talon]

mfw Shas O'bama orders a drone strike of 500 Remora's

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

and I am obliterated from existence

[storm jungle]

Yeah my favorite kinds of books when done well are the one where oyu NEVER get a POV of the enemy

[arctic talon]

I'd like to thank our most drone strike happy president for having an O as the start of his name

so I can butcher it for a Fire Caste fireblade or commander name

[vagrant fox]

It's honestly quite good, I'll finish the book tomorrow

[heady rivet]

They send guys with no equipment to loot bodies and bring back weapons and gear in no-mans land

[zenith prairie]

A good kreig book? Really?

[storm jungle]

Yes

the author actively hates krieg fandom

[vagrant fox]

Yea

[storm jungle]

which is one of the biggest selling points

[zenith prairie]

Thats neat

[arctic talon]

he hates the stupid fandom image of Krieg

Which is good

[storm jungle]

^

I have a friend whos in a server with him and he REALLY wants to show the Korp as they would be "normally"

Like I hate krieg but even im gonna read it

[arctic talon]

Also you want to know whats hilarious

Rhuairidh James has done one serious 40k short story aside from this one

[heady rivet]

KILL shovel boys

[arctic talon]

the rest of his stuff is liek

way more comedic/lightly toned

it all Red Gobbo stuff

he's really showing his stuff lol

[zenith prairie]

I just remember not caring for Lyons stuff, and then the memes came

[storm jungle]

Yeah because Lyons sucks

like, no offense to him but holy shit

[arctic talon]

Lyons is like

fine

[storm jungle]

EVERY Krieg book he writers EVERY ONE is the same

[arctic talon]

his best book was the first

[storm jungle]

I think his issue is he just doesnt try anything.

[vagrant fox]

Lyons is uh, well I like some of the stuff in his stories

[arctic talon]

because it was refreshing and new at the time

Lyon is very repetitive for Krieg

unfortunately

[storm jungle]

^

which is bad because hes the only guy that writes for them

ithink i lost any shred of respect i had for him after reading his Vraks novel

what a slog

[arctic talon]

Well maybe Rhuairidh will write more

lol

Called vraks

doesn't even go over the interesting parts of Vraks

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

what did Lyons mean by this

[vagrant fox]

Lyons'll have a really cool scene and then it's just meh

[storm jungle]

Lyons forgot Krieg are like the least interesting part of Vraks lol

[arctic talon]

well Krieg are interesting in specific parts

lol

the issue is they skip them

[storm jungle]

My favorite part was like

[arctic talon]

why?

Fuck if I know

[storm jungle]

he sees Tyborc from the OG story and goes

"hrmmm hes like my OC ill have Rex recruit him"

like, okay

so?

lmao

[arctic talon]

but the siege regiments in the DKOK slowly breaking apart in both morale and spirit throughout Vraks is like

the best part of the Imperial armor books

before they fucking snap

[storm jungle]

dont forget the administratum also uncaringly sabotaging the entire campaign lmao

[arctic talon]

Yeahhhhhhhhhhh

I lovev the administratum

[storm jungle]

"Still not done yet? Aight we're taking more supplies away"

same

you NEVER see this in any other 40k book

[vagrant fox]

Administratum is so cool

[zenith prairie]

Sounds about right

[arctic talon]

every member of the guard regiments left gets no spare ammo

or grenades

[storm jungle]

but basically get the book

[arctic talon]

the fucking wargame scenario for Vraks is hilarious

near the "breaking point" of the guard

you litearlly dont' get grenades, all morale is at conscript levels

and vehicles get half movement

bcs of fucking fuel conservation

because the administratum has Fucked you

[vagrant fox]

Lyons short story about a randon krieg guy slowly breaking out of his conditioning is so neat and then he does all the rest

[arctic talon]

yes you the player

[zenith prairie]

Might. Getting over the misguided and unwarranted hatred of the krieg is hard

[storm jungle]

Trust us

we know

[zenith prairie]

but it sounds neat

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[vagrant fox]

Understandable

[zenith prairie]

Honestly, dont even hate em. Just not cup of tea

[storm jungle]

Entirely fair

[vagrant fox]

I do love Krieg but also I don't at all and the fans should be destroyed

[storm jungle]

yeah like considering a AUTHOR of 40k is like

"holy shit this fandom of theirs is annoying"

should tell you everything lol

[vagrant fox]

Every time I see happy gasmask noise I do that Sideshow Bob grumble

[storm jungle]

Its such a lame ass old joke too

from like fucking 2012

[winter pine]

need another trailer involving an Ork burna boy lighting up a Krieger to balance things out tbqh

[zenith prairie]

They dont even use shovels for meele, they axe things

[storm jungle]

the krieg screams were like music to my ears tbh

[storm jungle]

NOT EVEN THAT

THEY USE TRENCH CLUBS

AND PEOPLE STILL SEE SHOVELS

AAA-

[arctic talon]

they got hand axes as an upgrade in killteam

its nice

[storm jungle]

Damn it

i was wrong

[arctic talon]

but you're correct on the clubs thing

[zenith prairie]

HAHAHAHHEHHEHHOHOHO

[arctic talon]

its clubs, hand axes, normal guard melee weapons

[storm jungle]

yeah fair, tho god i remember when their killteam came out and people saw the clubs and were like

[vagrant fox]

Also Trogdor is hella cool

[storm jungle]

"IS THAT THE SHOVEL OF 87????"

no

[arctic talon]

this fuckin thing

[storm jungle]

ITS A FUCKING STICK

[arctic talon]

This is what they use to hack people to death with

[zenith prairie]

TRRRRRROOOOOGGGGDDDOOOOORRRRR

[arctic talon]

its main purpose is technically as a multi use tool for removing barbed wire/cutting wood/breaking up small rocks

but its also great at horrifically hacking apart an Ork

in KT2e's release for Octarius its literally said its against regulation to use hand axes as a backup melee weapon

[vagrant fox]

As much as I'd like to see sharpened shovels in some random defence a la real ww1 I really don't also

[arctic talon]

but Veteran DKOK members do not give a shit because its useful for hacking apart people

[storm jungle]

also Elite last question so spoiler it for others but what is the entire "evacuating the planet" plot like in the book? Are they like actually gonna do it or is it setup where they'll overtake the Tau positions and win the battle?

I assume not because im assuming theres an entire fucking tau war battallion on the planet after they vaporized most of the IG lol

Im a sucker for "last man off the world" tropes

[vagrant fox]

||the IG are more or less in full retreat except the DKOK who don't acknowledge some new leadership||

[arctic talon]

||they actually evacuate at the end, the guard loses the battle but lives on, the DKOK are stubborn about it the whole way through till almost the very end||

[vagrant fox]

At least for how far I've gotten

[storm jungle]

BASED

||a fucking hack writer would have made them win the end lmao||

but aigth ty

[raven stone]

Wait is this the new Krieg novel?

Just curious, don’t mind if Krieg end up eating Tau firepower head on.

[vagrant fox]

I look away for a second and have to physically restrain myself when I see clickable spoilers

Yea

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[raven stone]

Ok good to see some writer bucking the trend

[storm jungle]

Yeah its in the synopsis too so no huge spoilers from that lol

[arctic talon]

Thank you league of legends

[storm jungle]

This ENTIRE book is built on bucking the trend

the author said as much which is great

[vagrant fox]

Between R S Wilt, Mike Vincent, and Rhuaridh James things are coming up Millhouse for BL

[daring creek]

Shovel doesn't even make for a great weapon in battle period. I shoveled my dads car and van out of the snow this week and I can't imagine using this thing as a side arm

like

You are going to get shot lmfao

[vagrant fox]

Mildly excited for future books

[daring creek]

Unless you're strong good luck doing anything more than being a mildly awkward annoyance

[vagrant fox]

They were used as impromptu axes in trenches, confined space and all

[daring creek]

kriegsmen also have knives im p sure

[daring creek]

makes sense

like not even in the original book do they use shovels as a weapon

[vagrant fox]

Sharpened a lot too

[sacred ginkgo]

I hope this is real

[daring creek]

though if kriegsmen do get another book

they are 100% shoveling someone

lmfao

[raven stone]

TBF WW1 troopers did use shovels as weapons before Krieg was even a meme.

[vagrant fox]

Not in the newest one at least

[daring creek]

oof.

which one is that

.

[vagrant fox]

Deathrider

[daring creek]

when did the like

shovel thing come from anyway

oh yeah speaking of death riders

why are they a thing and how are they effective

horses aren't in war anymore for a reason

its easy to shoot down an insanely emotional animal

[arctic talon]

It is lol

[vagrant fox]

I assume it sprung out of someone hyper fixating on a random weapon used for trench fighting and the 40kheads need to run everything into the ground

[arctic talon]

They’re basically not horses with how modified they are genetically

[daring creek]

Still

doesn't make sense to me

[arctic talon]

And generally they’re not super effective but they’re mostly as flankers in open fields

[vagrant fox]

Warfare in 40k isn't very sensible

[arctic talon]

^

It’s the same reason you have jetbikes and bikes

[vagrant fox]

Rule of cool first

[arctic talon]

It’s cool to have cavalry

[daring creek]

is a horse just not falling after getting shot

is it the element of surprise

[arctic talon]

The horses are roided up to shit

[vagrant fox]

Krieg horses have subdermal armour, it's fine

Surprise helps sure

[daring creek]

[arctic talon]

Also they’re not using normal pointy sticks

They’re using power weapons or grenade lances

[daring creek]

those are explosive right

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[daring creek]

oh ok

[arctic talon]

Melta Lance fucking obliterates tanks

lol

Ultimately the guard isn’t too sorry about a bunch of people + animals dying in exchange for a bunch of crippled or destroyed tanks

[daring creek]

I can guess so

[arctic talon]

The krieg horses are also like absurdly fucked up

[daring creek]

I just think something like a motor cycle would be cooler

[arctic talon]

They got talons 💀

[arctic talon]

Those are a thing

[daring creek]

with a extra seat

[vagrant fox]

There's enough of both to take the losses ez

[arctic talon]

Some regiments have motorcycle cav

Necromunda does

Cadians do

[daring creek]

Like a twin seated motor cycle with a grenadier on the side

that sounds sick as hell

theyve done that before right

[arctic talon]

I fuckin hate attack bikes

Those are a thing for marines

[vagrant fox]

The krieg horses having mandibles and claws is wack, why the mandibles

[arctic talon]

And they look stupid imo

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-kennedy-resident-evil-4-remake-suplex-combat-gif-12729346389787936139

i hate you

[daring creek]

Oh right

still

guards prevails or whatever

[arctic talon]

Its stupid

I hate it lol

[vagrant fox]

At least it's not the gocart

[daring creek]

i dont care for your hot wheels annoyance!!

[arctic talon]

Side car bikes have never looked good

[daring creek]

i just think it'd be really cool for them to have some makeshift bike

its about function...

[vagrant fox]

Doesn't quite work for marines

[daring creek]

and honestly yeah this looks ugly as fuck

but Im not talkin marines

[arctic talon]

just fucking kitbash your own guard bikers

[vagrant fox]

Guard are sloppy enough it'd work

[arctic talon]

lol

[hollow lantern]

I'm a sucker for land speeders tbh

[vagrant fox]

Kitbashing goes against GWs holy vision

[arctic talon]

incorrect

[daring creek]

You think kriegsmen would have this shit

[arctic talon]

Yes

because world war 1

[vagrant fox]

Shure

[daring creek]

so fuckin dumb lmfao

[vagrant fox]

Or the armed vespa

[arctic talon]

someone did catachan on hoveboards in an old white dwarf lol

[vagrant fox]

I do love the cannon vespa

[daring creek]

not bad

[vagrant fox]

The skull is sensible

[hollow lantern]

Peak marine vehicle right here

[daring creek]

oh is that a landspeeder

[vagrant fox]

Better than the sidecar scooter

[hollow lantern]

Yes

[arctic talon]

whats your opinion on the storm speeder

and the Land Speeder Vengance

[hollow lantern]

Not a DA guy

[arctic talon]

literally all of these postions suck horrifically aside from the pilot

I'm ngl

[hollow lantern]

And I don't like storm speeders as much

[arctic talon]

next to two plasma cannons vs infront of the cockpit vs sensor array operator

the pilot is the only one remotely not fucked

and he's got a marine in front of his cabin

[vagrant fox]

Get rid of the front gunner and it'd at least look cool

[arctic talon]

agreed

it looks fucking stupid with the front gunner infront of the cockpit

[cinder pivot]

stupid indeed

[arctic talon]

actually wait did GW fucking design the stormspeeder bcs of the ways people complained about the vengeance lol

[daring creek]

are motor launcher servitors a thing

[arctic talon]

Yes

fucking brother Tinitus vs brother cooked by plasma

pick one

[cinder pivot]

the front gunner should have been next to the the space marine in the right-seat

[daring creek]

oh what the fuck

[cinder pivot]

coaxial postion

[daring creek]

gw stop stealing my fucking ideas before I have them

[arctic talon]

the storm speeder just has a big gun that faces only forward

which is a choice

ig its in line with the land speeders

like pilot mounted gun

[daring creek]

This is a little goofy I can't lie.

[arctic talon]

do you not like brother tinitus

don't worry alot of people remove him lol

[daring creek]

like.

[arctic talon]

I'm like 100% sure this was done in response to people complaining about the land speeder vengance

having the gunner have such a "big" area

[daring creek]

okay those 2 bars function like a cross hair practically

[arctic talon]

tbh

the land/storm speeder is fast as fuck

if that helps

[daring creek]

I guess so.

but.

[arctic talon]

its still silly

lol

but its not sillier then the rest of their designs imo

[daring creek]

at any moment your head could go missing

it feels so wrong.

[arctic talon]

speeders are silly and cool

[arctic talon]

many such cases

[cinder pivot]

the tiny wings that can only hold one rocket each compared to the massive bulk of the main chassis is wonky

[daring creek]

I wanna see more now

this is hilarious

[arctic talon]

I like the scout battle bus a lot

[daring creek]

why are there 3 cameras here

[arctic talon]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/2/27/LandSpeederStorm02.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120802214308

[hollow lantern]

Me too

[arctic talon]

Think irl surface to air missile arrays

[vagrant fox]

These are still better than the ATV

[daring creek]

That sounds neat.

[arctic talon]

The ATV is evil

[daring creek]

looks neat*

[arctic talon]

I don’t know if I hate it or the attack bike more

But im leaning towards hating the ATV more

[hollow lantern]

I hate the atv more tbh

[vagrant fox]

ATV definitely

[arctic talon]

I know some people hate the attack bike more

But the ATV feels too Orky lol

Bcs of the ork buggy

[hollow lantern]

The attack bike is dumb but the atv comes from a more modern era with generally less dumb\cheesy models so it really stands out as stupid imo

[vagrant fox]

Mario cart looking thing

[arctic talon]

Tbh i think we’re not getting anything dumb/cheesier then the new stormspeeders

The ATV and desolators were an outlier

[hollow lantern]

Storm speeders are too chunky

Ik I'm a flying landraider guy but storm speeder is very much a flying tank

[vagrant fox]

Desolators my hated

[daring creek]

icl i dont like seeing ultramarine figurines. I know thats their entire purpose but i get such fucking hasbro energy from it

eugh

When are ultramarines gonna be in a toy story movie

thats it

fucking

toy story

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/guillotine-bonk-revolution-gif-20305805

[daring creek]

i've felt an aversion to marine media after reading horus rising, I will probably still read, some. but I worry about it just being Hype and Aura now.

[arctic talon]

What do you guys think Jes Goodwin was thinking when he made desolators

lol

[vagrant fox]

There's some genuinely good ones

[hollow lantern]

What's the concept art for em look like?

[daring creek]

Dante is definitely on my list

[arctic talon]

We dunno

[daring creek]

As I heard that book is the deconstruction of what a space marine is

[arctic talon]

But I wonder what it looks like

[vagrant fox]

Nothing good

[hollow lantern]

It has to look better than the models right

[daring creek]

and that interests me greatly.

[daring creek]

Oh wait

I saw these guys in DOW

[hollow lantern]

The only space marine books I really truly love are the deathwatch books ngl

Which are never getting a proper ending

[arctic talon]

It usually does for Jes

[vagrant fox]

Nuh uh

[daring creek]

Yeah I don't want to get into a book/buy it physically and just get a sandwich of hype and aura

[hollow lantern]

I love the contrast between giant rocket gun and pistol

[arctic talon]

I still wonder about the “heavier then terminator armor” thing he made was