40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

True.

Terminator also being mainly about time travel is painful also

[storm jungle]

yeah that

the Iron Giant is a planet destroying superweapon

but in the end he sacrifices himself to save a planet

Peak

[daring creek]

Based

[limpid granite]

Devastator genuinely burning graphics cards

[opaque coyote]

Because of course, trying to make a coherent ""timeline""

Is a fools errand

Because there's basically multiple of em

[jade holly]

I can’t imagine how much of a pain in the ass it was to animate them transforming

[hollow lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-giant-gif-13665795418404169390

[arctic talon]

tbh my favorite Titanfall AI is Spyglass. Spyglass is the IMCs entire computational network personified. Operates entirely off of hard logic and tries to be nice, for a terrifying logisics and war AI

[daring creek]

Each individual MOVING FUCKING piece

[arctic talon]

I like spyglass

weird fucking thing

[jade holly]

But there’s one Transformer who is superior among all of them

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/STAAARRRRRSSSSS/status/2027941527100571828?s=20

Nemesis-T Type (@STAAARRRRRSSSSS)

Dear diary,
︀︀
︀︀Chris Redfield dmed me today. I told him to kill himself.

**💬 5 🔁 328 ❤️ 2.8K 👁️ 26.5K **

FxTwitter · Mar 1, 2026, 2:58 AM

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-grimlock-me-grimlock-king-king-i-am-king-gif-21689157

[opaque coyote]

Genuinely I hate how they move.

It also makes the fight scenes a mess. It's a case where simplicity was probably the better way to go

The Michael Bay transformer movies have good choreography. Even the worst ones

The problem is that you can barely fucking see it

[hollow lantern]

I love the 1986 movie so much

[opaque coyote]

I find it fucking funny because the G1 show is literally just hijinks

And then suddenly

[limpid granite]

LOL

[storm jungle]

"WE MUST HELP ATLANTIS AND THE MERMAIDS"

bro WHAT

[hollow lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/megatron-starscream-transformers-transformers-the-movie-gun-gif-26728006

And then suddenly

[storm jungle]

my man Prime really will help anyone 😭

[opaque coyote]

"Yeah y'know how we treated those lasers like they're nerf darts? Well now Ironside is fucking dead."

[hollow lantern]

"DIE AUTOBOTS"

[storm jungle]

I CAN HEAR THE VOICE

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/jazz-autobot-transformers-g1-g1transformers-gif-23275835

[vagrant fox]

It's just a little pal nothing wrong with that

[opaque coyote]

"Such Heroic nonsense..."

[storm jungle]

God that scene is horrific but Megatron committing warcrimes 2m into the movie is so good

[opaque coyote]

BLAM

[opaque coyote]

The funniest part is that the storyboard had the deaths be even more gruesome

[hollow lantern]

Love Frank Welker

[opaque coyote]

Like Ultra Magnus was meant to be drawn and quartered

[arctic talon]

tbh I do wonder why Spyglass apologizes for abandoning all the IMC ground forces at demeter. Does it actually feel sorry and have a sense of comradery? or is it just trying to offer false comfort to the thousands of people it leaves to die lol

[opaque coyote]

Y'know, for the kids

The wildest part is just the sudden change in tone in general

And there will be nothing like it again

Ever

[hollow lantern]

The 1986 movie genuinely looks so good

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/nerdyomniman/status/2028186815346417827?s=20 oh yeah it's March

Nerdy Omni-Man (Invincible S4 Hype) (@nerdyomniman)

It’s March, you know what that means!

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FxTwitter · Mar 1, 2026, 7:13 PM

[hollow lantern]

I love classic animation so much

[opaque coyote]

It's like if the Paw Patrol movie started with the Police Dog being fucking shot

It's both awesome

Morbid

And kinda funny

[languid meadow]

the omnicron scene

in the movie

[hollow lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-death-autobot-transformersa-gif-7326502

It's fuckin brutal tbh

[languid meadow]

watching all of those transformers get digested alive

[opaque coyote]

It has some obvious scale issues.

Unicron seems to change in size a lot.

But in general, the movie has pretty good animation

And also is basically an AMV with its ost

[hollow lantern]

G1 has scale issues

[opaque coyote]

In a good way

[limpid granite]

PRIMAL TOMORROW

[languid meadow]

Unicron idk why I said omnicron

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it's why I didn't mind it

[hollow lantern]

I mean look at this

[opaque coyote]

Still funny though

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/Helldivers_NOW/status/2027920876923171096?s=20

Helldivers NOW (@Helldivers_NOW)

Common Sample

Quoting Lost Internet (@LostMemeArchive)
︀
Fat Chinese Baby (2023)

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FxTwitter · Mar 1, 2026, 1:36 AM

[limpid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-up-primal-peering-gazing-adult-swim-gif-8120969211459920342

[opaque coyote]

Also is it weird that I kinda miss Megatron being an outright gun?

Like it makes sense to me

[languid meadow]

I don't like it still

[hollow lantern]

It makes perfect sense

[vagrant fox]

I took it as Spyglass trying to do the false comfort and keep them going longer but who knows

[hollow lantern]

I'd kill to own one of the OG Megatron G1 transformers tbh. The nice one where he's chrome

[languid meadow]

but it is horrifying when he forces starscream to murder his friend with himself

[opaque coyote]

A gun is a tool of violence. But it still needs somebody else to pull the trigger. Showing how Megatron needs his decepticons despite the frankly dysfunctional relationship they all have with each other.

I think a tank is a good replacement since it's under the same sort of like... thing.

[jade holly]

The scene between Optimus and Megatron at the beginning of the movie with “You Got the Touvh” playing

[hollow lantern]

3 grand btw

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-18089782898853427957

[arctic talon]

I also took it as that but the fact spyglass decides to physically get onto dropships and do briefings feels weird. Spyglass has always felt super weird tbh, it could just do it over comms but it decides to physically get on drop ships

[vagrant fox]

https://youtu.be/S7BeQ1i3t-Y

[jade holly]

Grimlock has stayed my favorite transformer throughout all my time knowing transformers

[hollow lantern]

The first like 15 minutes of that movie genuinely go insane

[opaque coyote]

Also the fact that it's literally a fucking Walter P-08.

Like they literally got Megatron turning into a fucking Luger

[jade holly]

Hell, my first ever Gamertag on Xbox was DARK GRIM1OCK, yes I was an edgy 12 year old

[hollow lantern]

I really like uh, lemme find it

[opaque coyote]

He is totally not the bad guy clearly...

[jade holly]

And nowadays the Grimm part of my name is there to remember the legend that became my fav

[opaque coyote]

A gun the Nazi's used?

Must be a coincidence

[jade holly]

Long live the fucking king, King Grimlock

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-grimlock-dinobot-fall-of-cybertron-tfoc-gif-8050115253165527262

[opaque coyote]

Then again G1's backstory for the decepticons is unique in that they were made to be military in the first place

[vagrant fox]

Spyglass is very strange, robots in that setting generally seem to be considering some of them in Apex

[hollow lantern]

I love Armada era Megatron

[opaque coyote]

It's arguably the most interesting given that it could serve as commentary on how soldiers are left behind by their own government. Forgotten until they need a war to fight for.

But also they clearly didn't think that deeply about it

Since Megatron is painted as always being a complete and utter asshole

[jade holly]

I like the origin Transformers One went with

But the Cybertron games were great too

Megatron being a gladiator, Orion Pax being a Librarian

[arctic talon]

tbh they are literally all sapient, which is kind of horrifying in a cosmic way that they're sentient and sapient but designed entierly for a single role

[opaque coyote]

I think G1 Starscream is interesting due to the fact that most of his detractions are right

Like he's literally a scientist

[jade holly]

Prime Starscream is the best Starscream and I won’t hear otherwise

[opaque coyote]

But he always gets ignored for obvious reasons

[hollow lantern]

Idk I'm a sucker for G1 Starscream

[arctic talon]

Like, Spyglass is sentient and sapient, but its been programmed to entirely serve as a strategist and logistics network and thats part of its baseline "needs"

[opaque coyote]

Also admittedly it's always overshadowed by his uh

"coups"

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/starscream-starscream-tfp-tfp-starscream-starscream-transformers-transformers-prime-gif-345929466104266012

I love this rat bastard

[opaque coyote]

"MEGATRON HAS FALLEN!"

"I, STARSCREAM, AM NOW YOUR NEW LEADER!"

"DECEPTICONS FOLLOW ME!!"

[jade holly]

Megatron gets a cough
“MEGATRON CAN NO LONGER FUNCTION AS OUR LEADER 🗣️ 🔥”

[hollow lantern]

This is such peak design

[jade holly]

I love that visually he’s wearing colors usually seen as heroic, but he’s an absolute coward and snake

[opaque coyote]

Not far off at all tbh

https://youtu.be/hPCUj1a4yjw?si=fK_oct9HGFm8qIcg

[jade holly]

No like I’m pretty sure that actually happened

[opaque coyote]

Tbf he might just be smart

[jade holly]

He’s smart, just a coward

[opaque coyote]

Given that again, he is always right in how Megatron's plans can easily go wrong

That's also why he wants to overthrow him

[lament shoal]

Before its fall, did young Cadian recruits first serve on the planet's militia before joining the guard?

[opaque coyote]

Because Megatron is kind of a dumbass

[jade holly]

Now you know who would be terrifying in 40K?

Shockwave

as one person summarized him:
There’s Satan, then there’s Shockwave

[arctic talon]

yes

Whiteshields

[opaque coyote]

Depending on the version he'd either be normal or Fabius Bile tier

[lament shoal]

Ty

[arctic talon]

Whiteshields are still a thing on all the random new cadias as well

but Whiteshields are cadian children/teens

[jade holly]

Let’s be funny and say the IDW version

[arctic talon]

exclusively

[opaque coyote]

Like IDW is the worst version

[jade holly]

The one that amps his Psychopathy to the extreme

[opaque coyote]

And is ironically kinda depressing if you think about it

Since he was originally somebody who was empathetic

...

Then he got fucking lobotomized

He basically became the exact opposite of what he once was

Going from somebody who was wise, kind, and empathetic

[jade holly]

That’s an understatement

[opaque coyote]

To "Satan weeps at the sight of Shockwave"

[jade holly]

His entire head was ripped off no?

[opaque coyote]

His hands as well yeah

Empurta moment

Tbf that isn't what actually lobotmized him

[jade holly]

TFP Shockwave is my favorite visual design of him

[opaque coyote]

It was the shadowplay

The Empurta was literally just kicking somebody while they were down

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/starscream-shockwave-starscream-tfp-shockwave-tfp-transformers-gif-13831601110712749988

They made the damn scientist this absolute unit of a behemoth and made his alt mode a tank

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Starscream was also a scientist in G1

You'd never think he was due to how he acts

But he is canonically a scientist

[jade holly]

TFP was honestly such an amazing show

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/robots-in-disguise-robots-in-disguise-2001-2001-car-robots-sky-byte-gif-5299914165612402137

[jade holly]

So many good adaptations of character

[opaque coyote]

True

[jade holly]

And to think it was just seen as a kid’s show

On… damn what was that channel called?

[opaque coyote]

Cartoon Network it aired

I believe anyways

Also TFP was good

But it also replaced TFA which was cancelled

For TFP

[jade holly]

And TFP did something amazing

[opaque coyote]

...and then TFP got cancelled to

[jade holly]

Actually good human characters

[opaque coyote]

God fucking damnit Hazbro

Tbf both are good shows

But like

At least finish one man

Well TFP is finished at least

In a movie but still

[nocturne crest]

Then it got a sequel series.

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/soundwave-tfp-prime-transformers-gif-16885514486417825786

[jade holly]

Robots in Disguise, such a downgrade

I didn’t watch Earthspark but apparently Keith David voiced Grimlock in it

So, fucking yes

[opaque coyote]

Armada had the most interesting Starscream

Who was completely different from the usual cowardly personality he had

Nice change of pace tbh

Really interesting arc also

[jade holly]

I need to see a film about the origins of the dinobots in the Transformers One universe

But we won’t

[opaque coyote]

...then the sequel series fucking reverted his development

[jade holly]

Because Paramount fucking sucks

[opaque coyote]

Because fuck you I guess

[jade holly]

And don’t know how to advertise shit

[opaque coyote]

Along with reviving him from the dead too

Like why

[jade holly]

And now Paramount owns WB

And went into even more debt so now they’ll make even worse decisions

[opaque coyote]

So yeah I just stop at Armada

Cause the sequel series for Armada is just mid

Ngl

[jade holly]

Universal… why didn’t you join the bidding war for W.B.

[opaque coyote]

Also Transformers One not selling well is just sad

[near wasp]

They could always sell the nemesis system

[near wasp]

Plblame marketing

[opaque coyote]

Although tbf the advertising was

Dogshit

How do you misrepresent a movie that badly

Like genuinely it's actually wild how different the movie is compared to what the advertising tells you

How did they misrepresent it

So badly

I doubt the advertisers even watched it

Like all they had were the clips they used

Because even my dad who generally likes movies based on real events

Liked Transformers One

He doesn't know shit about transformers

[jade holly]

And now we won’t get an expansion of that universe

All because of shitty ads

[opaque coyote]

God it ended on such an interesting cliffhanger

Fuck

[jade holly]

Chris Hemsworth surprised me being as good as Optimus as he was

[rocky gale]

Was that the one where the trailers were really goofy and made the movie seem really immature?

[opaque coyote]

Yup

[jade holly]

And Brian Tyree Henry was fucking phenomenal as Megatron/D-16

[rocky gale]

Yea, advertising probably just saw "It's an animated movie, market it for the young ones"

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/running-away-elita-bumblebee-b-127-megatron-gif-11731119993716038963

[opaque coyote]

I ironically didn't really like his Peter Cullen impersonation.

[jade holly]

Literally the main shot they used in the trailers

[opaque coyote]

Tbf

That was a good joke

[jade holly]

I’m pretty sure Peter worked with Chris actually

lemme go check again real quick

[opaque coyote]

Yeah he did

But Chris did all the voices

[jade holly]

No I was wrong

[opaque coyote]

Chris worked with Cullen to try and get the voice accurate

[jade holly]

Chris just looked at how Cullen spoke

I don’t think they directly communicated

[opaque coyote]

But yeah I don't think it was that great

It wasn't bad

I just liked his take on Orion Pax better

Because it sounded natural

[jade holly]

It is but holy crap don’t put all the comedy bits in the trailer

[opaque coyote]

It makes more sense to have him sound like Cullen after like

The whole war

[jade holly]

When’s he matured and wisened

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I think it's meant to show his growth

And it is a good way to

[jade holly]

I did love all the cameos of the autobots in the mining group though

[opaque coyote]

But like I just feel like something else would've been better

[jade holly]

Arcee, Ironhide, pretty sure Ratchet was there too?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah. I think the saddest part of the movie is the High Guard

Starscream, Shockwave, and Sound wave existed

[jade holly]

Steve Buscemi Starscream was something I never knew I needed

[opaque coyote]

Starscream had a bit of characterization that was sort of interesting

But like

Sound wave and Shockwave literally just existed

Shockwave had like two lines

[jade holly]

Sentinel Prime tho? Glad to see ||he’s still a rat bastard||

[opaque coyote]

They probably planned to develop them more in the sequel

But...

[opaque coyote]

TF1 Sentinel Prime is like

The worst iteration of him

Which is funny

[jade holly]

Even in War For Cybetron Zeta Prime (who I consider another Sentinel Prime) was a rat bastard

[opaque coyote]

Like he went from "normal" G1 to "kind of an asshole" Transformers animated and prime to "villain" Michael Bay Movies

And finally

"Literally made up classism for the Cybertronian race"

Like bro introduced

Classism, racism, resource scarcity (energon was freely flowing before this), famine (energon is explicitly lacking), and finally mutilation (taking every miner's cogs from birth)

[jade holly]

Honestly one of the most evil dudes in media lmao

He had a checklist and made sure to check every box

And reminder: THIS WAS ADVERTISED AS A KID’S MOVIE

[opaque coyote]

Honestly the most underrated writing choice that I think is interesting is that

Optimus Prime tried to stop Megatron from killing Sentinel Prime not because of some "You'll become just like him"

His reasoning was basically like "We shouldn't start a new government with an execution. We need to put him on trial first."

But Megatron was too angry at Sentinel personally to care about the political ramifications

But also we understand why he's so angry. Anybody would be in his shoes

But also Optimus is fully right that starting off a new government like this doesn't set a good precedent

It's way more interesting this way tbh

Since instead of a question of personal morality. It's closer to "Personal Feelings vs the Bigger Picture"

Both sides are completely understandable on what they want to do

Which makes it all the more tragic

[jade holly]

Yeah, you could really feel D-16’s rage and slow slip to becoming Megatron all throughout the movie

[opaque coyote]

Also the fact that they clearly planned for further development

But

sob

Mitosis

[nocturne crest]

So how long until they do a 100% beast wars movie

[jade holly]

WAIT IS GREEN STUFF NOT IN PRODUCTION ANYMORE???

[hallow saddle]

i think its just a US factory thats closed

like its made elsewhere i think

[arctic talon]

One of the big factories and brands

[hallow saddle]

im fact checking myself

https://kneadatite.com/

its a registered trademark so maybe they are actuially the only manufacturer

there'll be a new version

[arctic talon]

Yeah

There will be replacements

[hallow saddle]

i want to try tamiya quick type it seems really good

[jade holly]

I’m watching of a guy using Apoxie Sculpt to see if it’ll work as a replacement for green stuff

[arctic talon]

Any of the liquid stuff is shit

[near wasp]

Well them my last hour at work was strange

I explained the dangers of cannibalism with my coworkers and then we talked about war crimes

[hallow saddle]

it could be that the new green stuff will be better

[jade holly]

Hopefully

[hallow saddle]

cause theyre making it for modeling & hobby speciffically

[jade holly]

When I’m done with my Necron army and I begin an IW one I want to start kitbashing

[hallow saddle]

if they make it so its sticky when its soft but can be sanded when dry that would be sick

[near wasp]

Bro got that plastic crack addiction. I remember when you bought your first model

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-crying-happy-crying-proud-proud-of-you-gif-9330963727422058522

[jade holly]

You say that but i haven’t bought anything new since January

mainly cause I need to clean my room up and make space so I can begin painting

[near wasp]

Listen man your talking about getting a second army. Your addicted

[jade holly]

Maybe, but I’m slow as Hell to feeding that addiction lmao

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if they'll make titans a faction in 40k.

[near wasp]

They already are

[storm jungle]

^

They are a subsidiary thing

[crisp heath]

theoretically could someone just deploy a drop-pod on top of a dreadnought to kill it or that would completely obliterate the marines inside of it?

[near wasp]

They are the size of a toddler

[storm jungle]

Entirely doable

Marines would be realistically dead from just a normal drop pod drop

[jade holly]

Roboute Guilliman calling on a Warlord Titan’s machine spirit be like

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-gif-3672918903949611284

[storm jungle]

its always explained as "erm the pod has some special safety measures so the people inside dont turned to jelly idk"

using it ot kill a dread Shitdivers style is 👍

[near wasp]

Knights also have drop pods that entire castles

[storm jungle]

yeah tho those arent pods

those are entire buildings

lmao

[near wasp]

Fortresses

[crisp heath]

[storm jungle]

Keeps

[near wasp]

It's a drop fortresses

[storm jungle]

🫡

[near wasp]

Potato potato

[storm jungle]

explode

[near wasp]

No u

[crisp heath]

deploys entire castle over you

see? a drop pod

[jade holly]

Dropping a Warlord Titan onto a battlefield is like dropping the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs

[storm jungle]

a pod is something small

so nope

get out

🫡

[storm jungle]

Warlords are not that big

[crisp heath]

erhm akshually pods are something small

[jade holly]

Yeah but whatever’s near it ain’t gonna have a fun time

[storm jungle]

Me when building drops on it

[jade holly]

Titans when they take one step and the entire leg collapses in on itself

[storm jungle]

eRm sEe cAsTlE

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/count-duckula-vampire-sunlight-the-sun-cartoon-gif-14430192

[crisp heath]

also titans and knights are just dropped from orbit like
they just let it walk off and it falls?

[jade holly]

Dropping it from orbit just to watch it crumble into scrap metal on landing

[storm jungle]

no lol

they deploy in small building sized structures that use thrusters to slow descent

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802

[crisp heath]

well thats lame

[heady rivet]

And the anti-concussion ear

[near wasp]

I'm always personal to the idea of a giant jetpack but I know that's not canon

[storm jungle]

👎

[crisp heath]

well you see

there is a mention of a titan-sized jump pack waaay back in like

1987

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-booing-me-im-right-gif-10368876

[storm jungle]

👎

[crisp heath]

that technically hasnt been retconned

[near wasp]

Huh

[languid meadow]

KILL ALL CLANNERS

my message for the day

[crisp heath]

its from 1st edition

[languid meadow]

this message was approved by ComStar (ignore the first year of the war)

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/reze-chainsaw-man-reze-choking-chainsaw-man-reze-reze-arc-gif-7957783538045005802

[storm jungle]

👎

[near wasp]

Probably will have my knight world be a fan of descent jets

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489442710617456664/1474335388033351680/humilation.gif

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/automaton-cyberstan-chad-giga-chad-gigachad-gif-16484288196551706927

🫡

[languid meadow]

this stupid fucking art that I love

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-laboratory-omelette-fromage-gif-23104467

[storm jungle]

AI art tier

oof thats bad

[languid meadow]

the dumbass elemental latched onto the black knight

[storm jungle]

👎

[plush mason]

SM drop pods arent small ironically, but they are also made for a whole squad and not a single SM

[heady rivet]

My favorite OC started as a Mechwarrior character

I drove an APC into a Clanner once

[languid meadow]

it's like 6 years old but tbf battletech art has always been hit or miss

let me get the Kurita art lmao

😭

[storm jungle]

🫡

[plush mason]

fucking anime ass mech in the center

[languid meadow]

It's a Hatamoto-Chi

[nocturne crest]

Which is the better Dire Wolf?

[languid meadow]

yes some variants get katanas...

[storm jungle]

Red Alert 3 ahh

[languid meadow]

the melee weapons some mechs get are hilarious

like a longsword

a hatchet

fists with rockets on it

[heady rivet]

My favorite Battletech mech is the uhhh

Wasp? Hornet? Looks like a Hind with legs

[languid meadow]

hornet

nevermind lol

this is a hornet oops

it's a wasp you're thinking of

[plush mason]

i just love the wide range of designs in battletech

[heady rivet]

Its some pest or another

[heady rivet]

Nope

[languid meadow]

let me get the video I so dearly love

I love the black knight and highlander

[languid meadow]

oh fuck

[heady rivet]

Its literally a Hind-D with legs

[nocturne crest]

I like the Yeoman, but I'm slowly coming around to the Argus.

[plush mason]

my fav is the king crab

[heady rivet]

No idea what those are my experience with Battletech is limted. Didnt even have one in the Mechwarrior campaign

[languid meadow]

it's a viper I think

[nocturne crest]

So this is an Argus.

[heady rivet]

No no, it was skinnier. With no "nose" but just a cockpit

[languid meadow]

I can't actually think of one like that

[nocturne crest]

And this is the Yeoman.

[languid meadow]

but there are so many random fucking designs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G88ZTO1RXRs my fav tactic in the battletech universe

[languid meadow]

marauder?

I'm legit trying to find this

[heady rivet]

Too big. Was smaller

Gm said it was like a common variant

[heady rivet]

His favorite is the Crab btw I remember that'

And he made me a Capellan nationalist

[languid meadow]

looking through light mechs rn

[heady rivet]

I'll know it when I see it

100%

GUH

FOUND IT

LOCUST

[languid meadow]

Ohhhhh

[rose thorn]

Insert scorpion empire propaganda

[heady rivet]

Yeah I like this

[rose thorn]

I LOVE SCORPION EMPIRE!!

[heady rivet]

Glory to the Capellan Confederation actually

[rose thorn]

Fuck you eats another micronation

[languid meadow]

Is that a stalker?

I think

[nocturne crest]

Catapult.

[languid meadow]

Fuckkk

Looked so round I thought it was

[daring creek]

Wat r the weak spots of a terminator

I feel like its the armpits

[languid meadow]

Joints like every other power armor

[heady rivet]

I'll take your word for it I dont know anything about the setting lole. I just played a character that was so canonically stupid it made sense that I, the player, knew nothing

[daring creek]

But especially the armpits no?

[nocturne crest]

There is also the fact that this exists in Battletech.

[languid meadow]

House Liao ( the capellans ) are so cartoonishly evil

Considering they fucking made a sentient zombie virus and evil AI

BT decided to make both of the Asian inspired factions evil asf

[daring creek]

Feels like the armpit is the closest youll be to actual meat

[languid meadow]

Kuritans and Liao

Holy shit

[daring creek]

Or the crotch

Lmao

[languid meadow]

Any joint would do you well but termis are mostly felled with big weapons

Or just like

Any xenos

Terminators only really seem unstoppable if you view it from a human lense

Even then

Just fucking blow him up

[daring creek]

Yeah

[daring creek]

With what like a tank shot? Plasma?

[languid meadow]

Plasma, melta, tanks

If it can kill a space marine it'll kill a terminator

Just sometimes you gotta use more

[daring creek]

Lol

[crisp heath]

they're still a very dangerous threats for most xenos even but its that every faction has a "fuck you for your very overpowered thing"

[languid meadow]

I mean yeah

a wolf is dangerous but not unstoppable

[nocturne crest]

Do the space wolves have wolf helmets for their terminators

[storm jungle]

no

[storm jungle]

I still love how much people get mad at Genestealers being able to kill terminators

its always like

"HOW CAN THEY DO THIS, IT MAKES NO SENSE"

like... its a fucking infiltrator not-xenomorph alien vanguard organism idfk how else should it do it? Use a fucking rocket launcher?

😭

[nocturne crest]

I feel like they should. Seeing how chaos terminators have horns.

[storm jungle]

lets keep the fursona elements on the low

[storm jungle]

[plush mason]

they do have a wolf helmet though

[nocturne crest]

That and wolves priests should he the only ones with wolf helmets.

[plush mason]

its reserved for champions iirc

[storm jungle]

It looks cringe

stop with the stupid fucking wolf helmets lmao

stick to the skulls

[nocturne crest]

It fits.

Space Marines are cringe

[storm jungle]

They are. But I dont need to be reminded of it MORE

[plush mason]

its no different to the stupid eagle faceguards the ultramarines have

[storm jungle]

Those arent stupid

they look fine lmao

also doesnt look like a shitty lego fursona headpiece

[plush mason]

imo they are all stupid

[nocturne crest]

Okay, wolf skull helmets then.

[storm jungle]

How about right

[plush mason]

like the 20 ton underbite the imperial fists have lol

[storm jungle]

i rip out your skull

👀

[median star]

new iront hand!!

[storm jungle]

Yeah love that guy

traitor IH no less, fucking based

[median star]

he has the same dumbass metal beard that count noctulas has tho

[plush mason]

did not expect traitor guard

[storm jungle]

thats red corsairs baby

everyone is welcome

[plush mason]

always happy to see them

[storm jungle]

I REALLY like how like random the origin of Huron's dudes are too, it feels really cool compared to the previous titus one where its like

"YES HELLO HERES MR. HEROMAN NO.29102"

@median star can you also check if the corsair faction page has a warlord page like this as well, i wanna see

[median star]

not my pic just a repost

[storm jungle]

NOOOOOOO

[median star]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Epstein

[storm jungle]

aight welp, time to go find a PDF this week

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-haircut-meme-smack-gif-17673522996508069582

[languid meadow]

may I suggest

#general-chat

as the place to start looking first

[storm jungle]

may I suggest jumping into a electric eel tank 👀

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-stoopid-cat-game-vr-gif-10800356129691145186

[storm jungle]

Average 40k fan.....

[opaque coyote]

The human experience™

[nocturne crest]

Do you think the Tiger Claws Chapter would have had tiger styled helmets before they fell.

[languid meadow]

tyger claws...

[storm jungle]

I still love how V in one quest calls them Kitty Claws to ragebait them

😭

[languid meadow]

they kind of deserve it ngl

well all the gangs do it's funny to ragebait them

[celest cedar]

what

[storm jungle]

brain damage i think

[opaque coyote]

Which gang is the least worst

And which gang is just the worst

I'm thinking

The Mox and Scavs

[median star]

https://tenor.com/view/hyrax-rock-hyrax-dassie-rock-dassie-squiggy-gif-12198396482958338165

[opaque coyote]

Mox for least, Scavs for most

[languid meadow]

maelstrom or voodoo for the worst really, idk if you'd count scavs as a unified gang but I could be wrong

mox are prob the least shit

[opaque coyote]

Fair point

[crisp heath]

This is mostly space marines fans being angry

because for them

[opaque coyote]

I think Scavs count as at least a collective

[crisp heath]

not a single thing can touch their chuds

[opaque coyote]

Since they all have the same style

[storm jungle]

Well yeah and its still too many

kill em

chop em

[opaque coyote]

And also a Russian accent

[storm jungle]

stomp em

drown em

burn em

[crisp heath]

Same people who cry for the uhh

[languid meadow]

Voodoo boyz actively plan on ending the world and shit

[opaque coyote]

Idk I guess when you join, you immediately get a Russian Accent

[crisp heath]

space clown things killing custodes

[storm jungle]

Yeah i legit dont care if people hate Netwatch, i trust them more than fucking VDs lmao

[languid meadow]

Netwatch is the ONLY corpo I fucking trust

[storm jungle]

^

[celest cedar]

this dude had a former wife named Edith Ballin 😭

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the author literally did that by mistake

[celest cedar]

you cant make this shit up

[opaque coyote]

Bro even admitted it

[languid meadow]

because they understand what happens if they fuck up beyond "oughhh no mone"

[storm jungle]

also the argument is like "oh they work for other corpos"

BRO THEY RAE LITERALLY KEEPING THE APOCALYPSE FROM HAPPENING

[opaque coyote]

And Custodes at the time had like

[languid meadow]

the world fucking collapses

[opaque coyote]

Zero details

[storm jungle]

YEA

literally DAOT tier armageddon

except its gonna be on 1 planet

[languid meadow]

yeah it's bad

[opaque coyote]

"Hmmm, we are preventing the world from ending in an AI hellscape. We should use as many resources as possible-"

[arctic talon]

Netwatch is the least evil corp

[opaque coyote]

"FUCKING CORPO SCUM!"

[arctic talon]

They’re dickheads

[storm jungle]

crack skulls

[arctic talon]

But they do something that actually helps the fucking world

lol

[languid meadow]

I can understand being apprehensive about working with them but holy shit they're like the only ones who do any amount of real good

[arctic talon]

The blackwall is objectively a good thing for both human and AI kind

lol

[crisp heath]

I mean even if it wasnt
arent those harlequinns supposed to be extremely op anyways?

[opaque coyote]

Tbf if you had to deal with maintaining a giant AI wall (that is also an AI) to prevent the AIs from murdering everyone

I would be a dick too

[arctic talon]

The funny part of the blackwall is that it might decide one day it’s bored and wants to do something else

So yknow

[opaque coyote]

It's like being border patrol except on the other side are inhuman things that literally melt your brain at best

[arctic talon]

Better to hope it becomes one of the AI’s that’s friendly

[opaque coyote]

Also this

[arctic talon]

It’s not like all rogue AI’s are hostile

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that must not be good existentially

[arctic talon]

But there’s enough of them that are it’s for everyone’s best interests to stay away from each other

lol

[opaque coyote]

That your only form of defending the entire planet

[arctic talon]

Delimain is a beyond the blackwall AI btw lol

[opaque coyote]

Can one day just get bored and decide to fuck off

And you can't stop em

[arctic talon]

Well you can try

Give it incentives

[opaque coyote]

True but that's not a guarantee

It depends entirely on the Blackwall's feelings and choices

[languid meadow]

People will say netwatch is evil then help songbird and fucking send someone to super digital hell

[opaque coyote]

So hopefully you got some delicious AI for it to snack on

[opaque coyote]

Tbf, sending someone to hell is funny

[arctic talon]

Feeding someone’s brain to the blackwall because it’s been a good eldritch being and deserves a treat

[opaque coyote]

You also get a gun that does a similar thing

[arctic talon]

Erebus is different

Btw

[languid meadow]

The VA for that quickhack is insane

[arctic talon]

Erebus sends them beyond the blackwall

[languid meadow]

Like genuinely distressing

[arctic talon]

Canto and songbirds stuff dumps them into the blackwall

So up to you which is more horrifying

[opaque coyote]

I like to imagine that beyond the Blackwall there's just a bunch of rabid AIs

[arctic talon]

Do you not like the screams of people?

[opaque coyote]

Acting like Shodan or some shit

[arctic talon]

Smh

[opaque coyote]

And then there's delamain who's like

[arctic talon]

Tbh the AIs are constantly infighting as well

They can’t agree on wtf they want to do

[opaque coyote]

"I wanna make a taxi service"

[arctic talon]

There’s also stray engrams

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

The beyond blackwall net is a fucking mess

Intentionally so

[storm jungle]

wdym "imagine"

theres literally rabid AIs

[arctic talon]

^

[storm jungle]

💀

[opaque coyote]

The imagery

In my head

[storm jungle]

not much to imagine

we see it ingame

[arctic talon]

RABIDs are a danger to both rogue AIs and humans lol

[languid meadow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/7m7gjz9iXpU?si=ZJMke04zMv5_ZepD hearing someone's soul be torn asunder is not pleasant no

[arctic talon]

In AI’s they cause massive data corruption

In humans they just fucking kill you

So pick your poison

[opaque coyote]

I know but I kinda view it similar to that one scene where the Lich in Adventure Time shows a bunch of monsters reaching out and screaming

[storm jungle]

Yeah. Gonna rip your eyeballs off

[opaque coyote]

Nah yours

[arctic talon]

Either getting your mind mutilated until it’s no longer a mind

Or having your brain fried

[storm jungle]

Nah, yours

get them to read some text

[arctic talon]

Thanks Bartmoss

You fucking prick

[opaque coyote]

Nah yours

[opaque coyote]

Like a rabies infested dog

Awesome

[storm jungle]

Quiet down pipsqueak

[arctic talon]

also btw RABIDs are a modified soulkiller

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-haircut-meme-smack-gif-17673522996508069582

[arctic talon]

so you won't just die

you'll have your engram torn apart and turned into more RABIDs

after it kills you

[storm jungle]

Tbh thats a thing i dont really get even tho it enters the philosophical angle

[arctic talon]

you get to die twice!

[storm jungle]

what is the AI torturing from you exactly

a copy of your mind they make?

[arctic talon]

Okay so the blackwall

[storm jungle]

its not like souls exist in cyberpunl do they

[arctic talon]

Is specifically processing how you got into the blackwall

and it does that by dissecting your neurons

digitally

[storm jungle]

Bruh

aight nvm

[arctic talon]

the Blackwall is self learning

and wants to figure out how you got past it

or into it

[languid meadow]

Still funny to me arasaka risks their fancy boat to aura farm

[opaque coyote]

Apparently they also resemble Bartmoss himself

[arctic talon]

and adapt to that

For other AIs its probably a similar situation

if they want to tear you apart for info

for RABIDs its worse

[opaque coyote]

So the last thing you might see is just a bunch of Bartmosses basically tearing your consciousnesses apart

[arctic talon]

because you get soulkilled -> Having your engram torn apart and mutilated into more RABIDs

and getting soulkilled is already painful

I don't want to know how much having your engram torn apart and turned into more RABIDs

is

but considering how Rogue AIs of all types do not like RABIDs

[opaque coyote]

So they basically kill you painfully, copy you, kill that copy painfully, and then turn the remnants into more RABIDS

[arctic talon]

I think its a pretty safe bet the process is not pleasant

[paper haven]

Nah it's fine

[arctic talon]

Yes, and that brings up the philosophical question of if RABIDs resemble the original Rogue AI or engramed human being

(no)

[opaque coyote]

Considering they all apparently resemble Bartmoss

No

[arctic talon]

Bartmoss is a piece of shit lol

I wouldn't want to be human him or the Rogue AI version of him thats literally the net equivelent of grey goo

anyways on the upside RABIDs aren't an issue on the human side of the Blackwall

except when they are

Rogue AI's are infinitely more capable of dealing with them from a fundamental standpoint

Even if RABIDs still consume some Rogue AIs

[storm jungle]

Dude I had two Cyberpunk RPG/game fans enter a REALLY heated debate regarding what Bartmoss did was right or wrong, one of the mwas going full anarchist/fuck the governemnt lmao

id agree if uh you know

HE DIDNT TRIGGER THE END OF THE WORLD

[arctic talon]

Bartmoss did it entierly for selfish reasons

which is why I think he can go suck a dick

[opaque coyote]

A smidgen of tomfoolery

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

he created the RABIDs and prepped the Data Krash because he got fired from his CORPO job

[storm jungle]

Yeah its the perfect epitome of a "Killdozer" situation imo

people praise that guy having no idea he was a total chud lol

[arctic talon]

Like Bartmoss's entire manifesto is "I got fired from my job and that fucking sucks so fuck all of you"

he didn't even liberate the Net from corporate control

if anything he consolidated it into a bunch of interconnected Intranets

Which he must have known was going to happen

so the only reasonable explanation he did the Datakrash was because he was an egotistical dickbag who wanted to smash everyone elses toys because he was going to die

[storm jungle]

He essentially puıshed the clock from 6 to almost 1 minute before midnight

his ripple effect on the world is actually nuts

[arctic talon]

funny how in 2077 the net has only started resembling

the pre datakrash version

in RED its way more isolated/pocketed/secure

[opaque coyote]

Apparently it was a complete fucking accident.

It was designed to breach all corporate data fortresses and release all their data in the net

"Oops."

[paper haven]

We do a little trolling

[lament shoal]

Anyone here got any advice for the first boss? My teams and I keep getting stomped at the end

[arctic talon]

No it wasn't

the datakrash wasn't an accident

[lament shoal]

Ranged enemies during that part have been the thing I struggle most with

[arctic talon]

he knew what he was doing when he unleashed the RABIDs

In Rogue Trader?

or

[lament shoal]

Darktide

[arctic talon]

oh the train station captain

[lament shoal]

Yep

[arctic talon]

yeah that one is total RNG with new players lmao

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[paper haven]

Are we talking about Darktide again?

[arctic talon]

but you want to beat the shit out of him

ASAP

like you need to fucking jump his ass

in melee

[lament shoal]

Gotcha

[arctic talon]

but new players don't know that

so they uh

plink him

[languid meadow]

Check out the moon bro

[arctic talon]

But if you're in a 4 stack tell them to bash the dudes skull in

[lament shoal]

Its hard trying to avoid ranged attacks in that segment while the poxxes are swarming

[paper haven]

Jump him

[arctic talon]

Thats why you wana be in melee with him

[lament shoal]

Gotcha, ty

[arctic talon]

he stays on the melee(mostly)

when you're in melee with him

[storm jungle]

My missile is approaching your house

adios redditor

🫡

[languid meadow]

Discord mod

[storm jungle]

Discord user

[languid meadow]

We're both trash

[storm jungle]

I just showered so

[languid meadow]

Gay nerds fighting

[arctic talon]

Saying "it was an accident"

when someones plan fundamentally works around releasing a self replicating program designed to kill anyone it encounters and corrupt/assimilate any AI it encounters and destroy all corporate security is fucking dumb

HE KNEW what he was doing

[storm jungle]

^

Again it was a Killdozer situation

all of that was his fault

[arctic talon]

Anyone who does programming knows what you are doing when you make a self replicating program

with no fucking off switch

Netrunners are not cavemen/script kiddies when they make Daemons

using prepackaged ones sure, but if you make one you know exactly what you're doing and creating RABIDs out of soulkiller was a very intentional choice

to kill as many people as possible and to spread as much as possible

it could spread through multiple vectors, netrunners, other daemons, corpo AIs, engrams, rogue AIs

so yeah I think Bartmoss knew what he was doing lol

like if he had made an off switch I would give him some more credibility but he didn't

[arctic talon]

At least the killdozer dude had the decency to try to not kill random people on purpose and blew his own fucking brains out

[arctic talon]

LOL

[opaque coyote]

Apparently, there's a shard directly from Rache Bartmoss that communicates otherwise.

Although, judging from Cyberpunk 2020 Firestorm Stormfront, the guy was fucking insane in general.

"The first Net was supposed save us. It would serve as a platform for those without a voice. It would offer unlimited knowledge to those who hungered for it. It would bring a fractured humanity closer together than ever before in our history. But these hopes were hollow. False.

The Net spread its tendrils around the globe faster than anyone could have predicted. Before anyone could even consider the full range of consequences. This "information superhighway" turned out to be our path straight to hell. We were robbed of our privacy, deprived of our free will, stripped of our dignity.

It was supposed to save us, but now even the Net itself cannot be saved. It was molded by the corps, with sharp edges, spikes and traps at every corner. Think of the Net as a stream of water that flows gently into our minds... before freezing, swelling, and destroying us from the inside out. But remember this about ice – as hard as it may be, it's surprisingly brittle. One well-placed strike and it shatters into a million tiny pieces. Watch out today and you'll see just what I mean.

Rache Bartmoss"

Reading about him, he definitely knew what his RABIDS were doing, I do agree with that.

But he had the delusion that he was doing it to destroy the net and save people from the corpos

When in reality, he was pissed about losing his job.

He was also fucking insane.

Probably knew what he was doing but this shit doesn't really strike me as a man who has all of his marbles in place.

Cyberpunk 2020: Firestorm Stormfront (1997)

Page 144

Gonna be honest here, this gives the impression that he probably didn't know the full consequences

But also didn't care about it.

[arctic talon]

Yes he’s insane and deranged lol

[opaque coyote]

Also apparently this is what he looked like in the net

[winter pine]

Bartmoss seems like a guy who'd be delighted he probably completely fucked everything and doomed the planet with the DataKrash

Nihilist making it everyone else's problem? Many such cases!

[opaque coyote]

I feel like he'd be both delighted and disappointed

At the same time

Delighted that he fucked things up so badly

Disappointed due to the fact that the net is now a series of intranets

[lament shoal]

Just got out of a match. Told the team beforehand to get him in melee asap. They didn't listen. We all died. 😭

[winter pine]

Really enjoyed the sorta subplot of Night Corp knowing the Black Wall AIs are going to invade soon and trying to do something to get ready

[opaque coyote]

Since he does seem to be crazy enough to believe that this somehow would've had people turn against the corpos somehow judging from this

That somehow ending the world = total corpo death

[nocturne crest]

So this might be odd to ask, but is the world of cyberpunk doomed?

[arctic talon]

rip

No

but yes

define world

more specifically

is humankind doomed? yeah probably

[nocturne crest]

Yeah.

[arctic talon]

is AI kind doomed? no, but yes

[nocturne crest]

Humankind, mankind, the planet earth

[arctic talon]

The earth will endure

it'll be polluted to shit and near lifeless

but it'll endure

humanity will likely die out

[nocturne crest]

Damn.

[arctic talon]

AI engrams and AI's will likely live on

Pondsmith wrote the universe to be bleak

"no happy endings in Night City"

ect.

[nocturne crest]

How long would you say the earth of cyberpunk has left before.

[arctic talon]

Eh

[nocturne crest]

Like, is the end near for everyone on the planet.

[arctic talon]

assuming the blackwall doesn't collapse and the human hating AIs win or RABIDs don't get out of control

like a few hundred years?

to a thousand years

[winter pine]

Everyone being implanted with the neuroport means the rogue AIs are going to kill a bunch of people

[arctic talon]

If the blackwall collapses and the human hating AIs win against the indifferent/ones that like humans

humanity is fucked

[winter pine]

V hitting people with the Erebus SMG? It's gonna be that

[arctic talon]

if the blackwall collapses and the indifferent/human liking ones win

a large amount of humanity is still going to die

in the ensuing war in the NET

Ultimately rogue AIs aren’t a monolithic group

They’re at war with each other constantly

[winter pine]

https://youtu.be/-OgOSgDSaCQ?si=V6UXpZkyl80hFGpe

[nocturne crest]

Ah.

[arctic talon]

And yeah Erebus is made out of a human hating AI

lol

[nocturne crest]

Is having cyber implants like mandatory in cyberpunk?

[arctic talon]

No

But almost is

You either have an Agent(fancy phone) or a neuroport

[winter pine]

There's something with the 2077 era that requires people to get the neuroport? Not sure on what exactly the lore is

[arctic talon]

Most people go for a neuroport

[arctic talon]

It’s not a requirement but 99% of the population has them due to convenance

Agents and other alternatives exist still

[winter pine]

I feel kind of weird for preferring the 2045 era right now

[arctic talon]

But the current iteration of Neuroports is way too convienanante to not have

[arctic talon]

Nah 2045 is more fun rn

2077 isn’t fleshed out enough

A lot of the stuff in 2045 can be inferred to be around in 2077 still

But 2077 lacks a sourcebook at all lol

[winter pine]

Any day now, I'm sure

[nocturne crest]

So like paying on your phone is more common than paying by card.

[arctic talon]

Paying with your brain is more common then paying by phone

More so lol

[winter pine]

Most def yeah

[arctic talon]

Why pull out your agent to pull out a specific app to do something when you can make brain do it

[nocturne crest]

True.

[winter pine]

They probably think that's old stone age shit to pay with some hunk of plastic

[arctic talon]

Tbh it kind of is

But the security issues with neuroports aren’t widely known

Having an agent around in case your neuroport shits itself is still good but why bother

Neuroport better

[winter pine]

I think it's either the rogue AIs invade or the dwindling amount of water and farmable land reach a point of no return

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[winter pine]

Having to farm in Alaska and Northern Canada because the climate is so fucked seems uhhh

Not sustainable

[arctic talon]

Tbh it would be funny if the blackwall fucking fails but the AIs who don’t hate humanity win

[nocturne crest]

And you can't do fishing, because that fucked as well.

[arctic talon]

You can fish

Just don’t expect the fish to be healthy lol

If it’s not grown on farms

[nocturne crest]

I can remember something about self replicated mines filling the oceans.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

But fishing still happens

Costal areas are fine

[nocturne crest]

So Cargo ships are a no good.

[arctic talon]

And some insane people live in the ocean still

(Metacorp)

Who are nomads

But also a corp

[winter pine]

this sums up fishing during 2077 pretty well I think

[arctic talon]

LOL

But most shipping is done via flying stuff now

[winter pine]

That old World of Darkness art was so good lmao

[nocturne crest]

The UK is probably super fucked in Cyperpunk. We mostly get our fish by stealing it from Iceland.

[arctic talon]

It’s not that fucked ironically

It’s shitty

[winter pine]

There was a 2020 on the UK called Rough Guide to the UK I think

[arctic talon]

But it’s not facing population collapse

Yeah there is

[nocturne crest]

Ah.

[arctic talon]

And it’s written from an in universe perspective for some parts

[winter pine]

Arasaka and Militech competing to be the most evil faceless megacorporation when Pentex and Nuka-Cola enter the room

[woven bane]

bolt gun lore totally makes sense right???

[opaque coyote]

Honestly no purely because

It would be too good of a fate

To be extremely nihilistic for a second. It would an end to humanity's pain. From the corporations, the cyberpsychosis, etc.

[nocturne crest]

Honestly, this is gonna sound crazy, but I could see the company from Poppy Playtime being in the world of Darkness.

[opaque coyote]

But I do not believe that it would end

[nocturne crest]

||Turning people into toys.||

[opaque coyote]

Purely because if the world ends

Then how will the corpos make money?

[nocturne crest]

True.

[opaque coyote]

It would affect their bottom line

[opaque coyote]

I have never played Poppy's playtime

Tbh I never plan to

But I have read bits of the lore

All I can say is "Orphan murdering is fun!"

It's honestly somehow kinda worse than FNAF lore since I have no idea why somebody would sacrifice a bunch of children to create lifelike toys.

Like at least William firstly stuffed children into suits to hide the bodies

And only found out about the freaky paranormal shit AFTER that

Might be missing something crucial but in general it kinda sounds stupid

[nocturne crest]

Who knows, apparently the original creator has been gone since the 3rd chapter.

[arctic talon]

Like the video game or the gun in universe lol

[nocturne crest]

So it's being written by the company instead.

[arctic talon]

The video game the events ingame not really lmao

Ludo narrative dissonance

For the gun in universe it makes sense ish

It’s made for killing orks/as a terror weapon probably

[woven bane]

the game lol

[nocturne crest]

Honestly, all I know is about the Orphans and Markiplier having a crash out of it.

[arctic talon]

The plot of the game is fine

The events gameplay no lmao

But it’s fun so who cares

You are not killing a great unclean one with a bolter

[woven bane]

he kills all of the chaos gods by himself 😭

[arctic talon]

LOL

[woven bane]

this guy is a unit

[arctic talon]

But yeah take the gameplay with a massive pile of salt

But the events of the game do happen

[opaque coyote]

Honestly my headcanon is that it's actually a game in-universe

Like it's the tale of Malum Caedo but exaggerated to shit

Similar to how games like CoD and BF have you play real events

But they're always exaggerated to shit in terms of capability

Because storytelling + gameplay

Idk about you, but if the Nazis had as many grenades as they threw in CoD: WaW

They would've totally been able to win the war

https://youtu.be/ydZfdlpED_0?si=ue3REft4FnpFoLSK

[winter pine]

I kinda assume this for Darktide's rejects too lmao

yeah boss we definitely killed a couple thousand heretics, trust me!

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I like to assume that it is what actually happens. But it's only for four rejects which happens to be whoever you and your teammates are playing as atm

And because it's the Imperium

Despite the fact that you should have gotten a fucking medal

Your work goes completely unappreciated

And you're still treated like shit

So yes I like to imagine that the rejects did kill like 3 beasts of Nurgle.

It's just that the Imperium generally ignores your efforts somehow

"Boss can we please have a break? I think we killed more cultists than a Space Marine does in a day..."

"What do you mean? You were only sent against a squad."

"A squad? There were fucking 50 heretics waiting to jump us as soon as we got to there! And that was just the beginning."

"Sure, next you're gonna tell me that you fought a Beast of Nurgle."

"WE DID! TWICE!"

"Ha, now I know you're joking. Stop joking otherwise you'll be sent back to death row. Now then, time to go on another mission. You're complaining too much for such simple missions I swear..."

[flat nimbus]

Darktide is just the process of feeding Rejects to the grinder and seeing who has Fate Points the God-Emperor’s Favor

another way: we’re that rare blend of expendable and invulnerable that makes the perfect Suicide Skwad

https://youtu.be/BcWQj2VCvtk

similarly, I choose to believe that, nah, Malum Caedo really is That Smurf