Pretty sure the big 3 that do that would use are the US, China, and Russia the rest probably wouldn't
#40k-lore-chat
languid meadow
urban spire
good job surviving the fire that literally can't be put out, anyway enjoy being posioned to death by the burns
languid meadow
Unless it's an insane regime like NK or Sadam
crystal forum
the thing with chemical weapons is they arent even that good. that's the only reason countries dont use rhem
trust me they'd use them if they were effective
urban spire
they do use them
crystal forum
laws of war are almost always bullshit
urban spire
i just said
languid meadow
Russia used wp in Ukraine multiple times but it wasn't as effective iirc
urban spire
nothing russia does in ukraine is effective
crystal forum
they do use them
im saying like nerve gas
languid meadow
But Russian is literally using gear from pre WW2 they're desperate
crystal forum
the problem is wind makes chemical weapons useless
plus it's very possible that your own troops will be hit by the chemicals
urban spire
brother you can't just say chemical weapons and make an exception for the the one the US uses the most
crystal forum
some nerve gasses are heavier than air so they stay in low areas like basements for months
which is pretty bad if you need your troops to occupy an area you attacked
hollow lantern
But Russian is literally using gear from pre WW2 they're desperate
Conflict involving both fpv drones and war horses
crystal forum
brother you can't just say chemical weapons and make an exception for the the on...
which one
urban spire
white phosphorus
languid meadow
Horses will probably never go away fully
hollow lantern
They did for awhile tbf, at least in modern conflicts
crystal forum
white phosphorus
that's a chemical weapon?
urban spire
yep, but it's not classified as one because america likes it too much
rocky gale
Is it a chemical weapon?
Looks inside
Chemicals
crystal forum
everything is chemicals
crystal forum
hiding my suppressed urge to just make an improvised flamethrower
napalm.... napalm.....
urban spire
it's not a flame thrower it's just a smoke thrower don't worry
hollow lantern
Actually
WP isn't classed as a Chem Muni cause it's used for fire iirc
Conveniently ignoring the toxic smoke
hollow lantern
That's most heavy metals
urban spire
tungsten munitions also poison the fuck out of american troops, so america just pretends the problems don't exist
languid meadow
hollow lantern
American doesn't use tungsten
urban spire
crystal forum
well america uses depleted uranium which is... better i think?
hollow lantern
We use depleted uranium
crystal forum
uranium is also very toxic
urban spire
in practice: as long as they say they're only using it for smoke it's fine
languid meadow
hollow lantern
well america uses depleted uranium which is... better i think?
At killing things yes
crystal forum
in fact eating uranium would kill you with its toxicity before the radiation
crystal forum
At killing things yes
it's mostly a cost thing iirc
hollow lantern
America also just has a fuckton of DU
crystal forum
the hardness of depleted uranium is good but it's mostly used because it's literally an industrial biproduct
hollow lantern
Yes
crystal forum
in practice: as long as they say they're only using it for smoke it's fine
at least they're not shooting kids with it anymore
urban spire
oh i'm sure they'll get back to it soon enough
solid horizon
isnt phosphorus what ad mech uses on their gun
rocky gale
They do have Phosphor blasters
Funilly enough they developed a more deady version called Phosphex, but a Tech Priest was so horrified by how deadly it was that he destroyed the only STC which could produce it. So they're stuck with Phosphor.
vagrant fox
He should be suffered the marrow furnace for that evil deed
rocky gale
To punish him they burned him alive with Phosphex
vagrant fox
Ah yeah I forgor
languid meadow
crisp heath
celest willow
Trump is even dumber than I thought🥀
and apparently nobody in this earth understands what long term benefits is
last stone
Is that a new type of "friends with benefits"?
languid meadow
heady rivet
rose thorn
yeah this looks liek a gen z design lmao
quite fond of this though even if she is very dnd character coded
languid meadow
yeah this looks liek a gen z design lmao
I hate it so muchhhj
I don't like the human shape at all
I hate the weapon choices
No spear????
The human part should've been more androgynous with no face or some shit
rose thorn
i hate the weapon choices in general lmao
it insists upon it self
it would be better off without aweapn
cerulean trellis
what is this thing supposed to be? gen z murder angel xD
crisp heath
Dumb chud stare
outer wave
Looks like he's cringing hard
daring creek
wide mouth
wary fulcrum
Looks like he's cringing hard
Wouldn’t you when all anyone ever says about you is that your boss is a lost primarch?
outer wave
Yeah true
vagrant fox
Assuredly deserved
daring creek
What the FUCK?
dude
this reads like a hard lawsuit
imagine all the kids gifted this shit for their birthday
outer wave
I hope to god no kid is watching Space King
sacred ginkgo
I hope to god no kid is watching Space King
Children are the primary audience, most of them watching just happen to be 30
daring creek
VUTASH VARG, NURGLE
outer wave
Anyone remember Lunchly?
Yeah I remember
outer wave
Dont they still sell those?
outer wave
I dont get how those make money
In fact I dont get how any of Mr Beast's food products make money
They all have a middling if not outright dog shit reputation
storm jungle
I dont get how those make money
Consumers are stupid
this entire playerbase complains about the MTX store yet every time new clothes drop i see everyone wearing them lol
same deal here
outer wave
Fair I guess
Tbf also, I come from a POV where I've only heard the shit rep online and I've never seen anyone buy these things
CLEARLY someone buys them
daring creek
i don't think anyone really expects a youtubers product to be edible radition
now that I say that
and read it out
mmmmmmmmmm........
languid meadow
I'd trust vsauce with all my heart
daring creek
languid meadow
fervent geode
He fought in everyone US conflict since WW1🙏
Couldnt get up to kill people himself this time and died
arctic talon
Holden bloodfeast was in Korea, Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan
fervent geode
the only politician murderous enough, he will be missed
vagrant fox
From this day onwards I won't vote for anyone, nobody can fill those shoes
fervent geode
none of them will ever have the guts to go down there and massacre people like he did😢
arctic talon
Holden bloodfeast was a warhawk
but he was a real american hero
HE DID THOSE WARCRIMES HIMSELF
Unlike the average politician
daring creek
https://tenor.com/view/post-this-deer-28-gif-8682945054513720148
Baby deer
crisp heath
babey...
near wasp
HE DID THOSE WARCRIMES HIMSELF
storm jungle
https://fixvx.com/Acyn/status/2027652088046796867?s=20
Operation Epic Fury btw
fucking helldivers-tier
storm jungle
OPERATION VALID PRETEXT
storm jungle
More like Operation Epic Furry
yeah he made that joke earlier today lmao
celest dome
Damn
crisp heath
Operation Epic Fury btw
Fascism is rising in one of the most influetial country on Earth because a bunch of white boys thought omg le cool department of war is so based!!!!! war is so mUUUCH cooler than peace!!!!!!
storm jungle
Fascism is rising in one of the most influetial country on Earth because a bunch...
Destroy the world NOW
crisp heath
now we have an actual military operation called epic fury
we live in the most cringe reddit slop dyspotian future ever
i dont even get to have a cyberpunk augment like a kiroshi eye
the masked gestapo just calls me a chud and blows my brains out
rose thorn
the pox virus spreads
LMAO WYAT
crisp heath
rose thorn
and like moldy
That shit is more processed than plastic how
vagrant fox
the masked gestapo just calls me a chud and blows my brains out
If this was fictional I'd find it very funny at least
rose thorn
Reality is funnier than fiction
surreal nest
https://fixvx.com/Acyn/status/2027652088046796867?s=20
its kinda crazy that this is him making an official going to war statement and i have to imagine he just did that with no authorization or consultation
celest dome
this is a noble mission
Now those Nobel dicks will give me my medal
scenic bolt
MOST MORAL ARMY IN THE WORLD
storm jungle
THE VERY BEST
scenic bolt
brags about being able to put a bomb through a drain pipe
bombs school
oops guys we missed
storm jungle
Yeah like im not even shocked anymore.
scenic bolt
sowwy
storm jungle
IDF is the best at decimating civillians so not surprised i guess
celest dome
Today's strikes ? Cause I've seen some say the source is unreliable, and other that it is indeed a school that got striked but used to be part of a military compound before hand
storm jungle
Today's strikes ? Cause I've seen some say the source is unreliable, and other t...
Ive seen footage of it on the footage subreddits, people have confirmed it
celest dome
damn
storm jungle
Yep 💀
storm jungle
🫤
winter pine
Are you guys excited for George W Bush's third term?
storm jungle
Take a guess
celest dome
Do i want to 
storm jungle
You know the answer already so i wont say it 😐
celest dome
god, at this point please have a plague that just decimate all those old fucks and then let kids start anew
scenic bolt
love when the only nuclear armed state in the middle east and the only state to use nukes got carte blanche to just start any war with anyone, and then the majority of the world will handwring the bombed countries for being provacative
storm jungle
No country matters when they arent a superpower unfortunately
you got the biggest stick you get to do what you want and get away with it
surreal nest
thats it, more preventative strikes!
i love how zionists are perfectly fine with isreal just randomly attacking a different nation every friday
celest dome
They were promised those attacks 3000 years ago
storm jungle
Anyway 50000000 aquilas to Ultramar
celest dome
Just read a thread about that "joke/meme" on a subreddit about the Jewish religion, and it's fascinating how they see that statement compared to how I would.
surreal nest
Anyway 50000000 aquilas to Ultramar
One billion dollars to the umbrella corporation
🗣️
solid horizon
demoman
storm jungle
Bro is a blind scotsman
solid horizon
black scottish cyclop
outer wave
Demoman....
winter pine
opaque coyote
Also
I love how consistent Fallout fans are with this
"Good thing that X city is just like irl."
celest cedar
https://youtube.com/shorts/4XpbV6saNQU Im sorry WHAT?? 💀
crisp heath
https://youtube.com/shorts/4XpbV6saNQU Im sorry WHAT?? 💀
whoever made that song deserved their death
spring cairn
storm jungle
5 time draft dodger btw
opaque coyote
Also for slightly better news
You can now see some user's specs on steam
Can’t wait for the inevitable screenshots of:
“unoptimised mess, cannot reach 60fps” - I7 2600k, GTX1060, 8GB of ram
“Works great for me” - 9800x3d, rtx 5090, 128GB of ram
scenic bolt
only knock with the new system is that the specs are opt in
shadow plover
lore accurate
opaque coyote
only knock with the new system is that the specs are opt in
Tbf makes sense
Better that it's opt in
And hopefully it's kept that way
near wasp
Apparently the official Warhammer channel accidentally posted a dark heresey trailer instead of the rouge trader one
XD
storm jungle
Lmao i got a notif of that
warped wolf
what’s the difference between the space marines and all of the characters in Darktide?
warped wolf
lore
celest dome
Apparently the official Warhammer channel accidentally posted a dark heresey tra...
They already took it down ?
warped wolf
like do the space marines are like elite soldiers of the Imperium?
arctic talon
Yes
storm jungle
like do the space marines are like elite soldiers of the Imperium?
Yes
near wasp
Yeahl
arctic talon
But the Darktide characters are inquisitorial goons
warped wolf
oh
arctic talon
They’re also elite
storm jungle
The Inquisition is more spec ops stuff
shadow plover
gene altered turbo killing machines
arctic talon
Just different branch
celest dome
what’s the difference between the space marines and all of the characters in Dar...
No Black Carapace and Power Armour
Smaller (human sized vs all near Ogryn size)
Less valuable
More numerous
More varied
Male and female
Lasgun vs Bolters
...
warped wolf
i see
arctic talon
The ogryn and Psyker are the only 2 who aren’t normal humans
celest dome
It'll be a cold day in hell when I accept the Taxman as human 
arctic talon
Psykers can tap into the warp and I don’t think I need to point out how ogryn are built different
near wasp
It'll be a cold day in hell when I accept the Taxman as human <:laspistol:865679...
Congrats hell is cold
celest dome
warped wolf
yeah so basically psyker is a witch and that explains why everyone hate them so much lol
storm jungle
Yeah and them hating psykers is the reason why psykers usually go evil lol
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
Psykers get treated like shit
Sanctioned psykers also mostly get treated like shit
So a lot of them have a bunch of issues beyond being a conduit for warp energy
Because turns out
Beating a 12 year old makes them resentful
Big shock I know
near wasp
I mean I'd be a little scared of the guy who could send my soul to hell and randomly rip open a warp portal
warped wolf
40k universe is so messed up ngl
vagrant fox
Trust me the psyker should always be regarded with supreme suspicion and hatred because they can explode into a daemon at any moment
warped wolf
i still like the fantasy version more
storm jungle
I mean I'd be a little scared of the guy who could send my soul to hell and rand...
The problem with the Psyker Dilemma is powerful people or cultists can also open portals to hell and doom an entire planet.
storm jungle
i still like the fantasy version more
Trust me you are way better off with it
Warhammer Fantasy is great because it has actual good guys
also the Empire arent space nazis lol
(and Sigmar is based as fuck)
near wasp
Everybody in 40k is a terrible person
vagrant fox
WHFB is good, 40k's for the absolute worst things happening all of the time
warped wolf
fr sigma was the real og
arctic talon
Sugmar dick chaos
-Sigmar
near wasp
The problem with the Psyker Dilemma is powerful people or cultists can also open...
I mean yeah this is true but it usually takes more work
storm jungle
I mean yeah this is true but it usually takes more work
Whe nthe result is the same i dont think it really matters tbh
Psykers just have an easier job. Theres been way worse people than psykers who have doomed entire systems and sectors to total war
warped wolf
imagine shouting FOR THE EMPEROR! to “Emperor please bless me with power” then dies immediately
arctic talon
Yeah that also
You don’t need to be a Psyker to summon daemons
Sorcery can do that shit
And sorcerers are like 20x more unstable often
warped wolf
oh wait what is Daemonhost? I’m still confused about it
near wasp
It's exactly how it sounds
arctic talon
oh wait what is Daemonhost? I’m still confused about it
A daemon shoved into a human(Psyker) often so that the daemon can manifest via the human
Rather then possessed which is a human fused with a daemon
warped wolf
is Daemon also a Warp entity?
arctic talon
Yes
fervent geode
oh fuck my mistake
arctic talon
Daemons are pure warp energy
Tbh daemon host is more accurate to what we refer to as possession in most pop culture
With possessed being a fucked up daemon mortal hybrid that no longer relies on any warp energy to maintain its manifestation
lament shoal
Warhammer Fantasy is great because it has actual good guys
MORE BABIES INTO THE FURNACE
arctic talon
Possessed no longer need warp energy or other ritualistic sources to be sustained
While daemon hosts uh, need that stuff
Also often daemon hosts are unwilling
vagrant fox
More unnecessary evil now
arctic talon
lol
And by often I mean like 99% of the time
I literally think I’ve only seen one daemon host be willing
celest dome
Deamonhost and Possessed will be "stable" in the same manner if surrounded by Blanks iirc
lament shoal
Possessed are also more akin to a symbiotic relationship
lament shoal
What does the process of resisting a possession involve?
storm jungle
More unnecessary evil **now**
arctic talon
What does the process of resisting a possession involve?
Willing possession where the daemon wants to take over? Or a daemon trying to posses you
celest dome
Deamonhost don't need Psykers, Possessed are more often Psyker due to it being a peril of the warp for them
near wasp
Perfectly justified
arctic talon
In a case of willing possession where the daemon wants to take over fully, you need to either bargin or force the daemon into submission with your willpower.
For a daemon trying to posses you for other reasons its just a fight of willpower and if you lose you're cooked
lament shoal
Willing possession where the daemon wants to take over? Or a daemon trying to po...
Daemon trying to possess you. Writing this for my homebrew chapter master, back when he was a scout and a word bearer dark apostle attempts to have him forcibly possessed by a daemon
arctic talon
Yeah you need to just resist as hard as possible with your willpower
celest dome
possesed are usually made out of normal people
I'm not saying they all are, but many Psyker who cause a lot of Peril of the Warp do end up possessed
arctic talon
wards and other weird esoteric nonsense can help
celest dome
And those case, Deamonhost is basically a variant of it
arctic talon
but ultimately its a case of willpower
Its really funny how both AoS and WHFB don't have a possesed unit
despite them being a thing in lore
celest dome
Don't the Slaaneshi faction one have one
queen laurel
Yeah you need to just resist as hard as possible with your willpower
So what you're saying is these guys cannot be possessed
celest dome
Ye basically
arctic talon
Don't the Slaaneshi faction one have one
Oh true, you're so right lol
the Curslings are also technically possesed
celest dome
the Curslings are also technically possesed
The Twins ? Aren't they conjoined people ? Or was that changed when it became a generic unit
arctic talon
That got changed
celest dome
https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Symbaresh_Twinsoul
Those are the possessed ones
arctic talon
The AoS curslings are based on the twins
But tzeentch wanted to skip the thing of having conjoined people
So the little guy is a daemon now
celest dome
Wonder if they'll introduce possessed units for the other gods, though tbh, Khorne getting one wouldn't really be that interesting.
arctic talon
Eightbound AoS edition
celest dome
Would "more of the same"
Would love to see new Blades of Khorne units (and/or Khornate deamons) that are different
celest dome
The Blood Warriors or the Reavers ?
arctic talon
Blades of Khorne sitting in the corner sobbing when Nurgle gets another update
celest dome
Disciple of Tzeentch in the other corner in a coma
Also, the themes behind the units that came with the last Nurglite round was so inspired, and 40k would never have the balls to do so.
crisp heath
celest cedar
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-attack-02-28-26-hnk-intl so apparently Ali Khamenei is dead
storm jungle
Yeah even if the leadership isnt killed Iran isnt winning this
they'll bomb them to submission, deploy a minor amount of troops then install a new dictatorship just like they did with Mosaddegh
queen laurel
they'll bomb them to submission, deploy a minor amount of troops then install a ...
The military industrial complex of America as much as people joke about it is genuinely an effective war tactic
With the amount of resources at their disposal they can afford absolutely obliterating you with munitions
opaque coyote
America's military is mainly joked about
But that's because they're big enough to take it
And nobody actually wants their ire
storm jungle
The military industrial complex of America as much as people joke about it is ge...
They are good at killing
not good at taking
the US has lost ever major war its been in for the most part for a reason
celest cedar
they'll bomb them to submission, deploy a minor amount of troops then install a ...
Americans born too late to fight in the middle east, too early to fight in the middle east.
But hey, they're just in time to fight in the middle east!
more troops to the middle east for the glory of pedophiles 🗣️
vagrant fox
The US army isn't really geared to the purposes it's being used, it's a streamroller not a police force
Conquer and move on, don't stick around
storm jungle
^
opaque coyote
not good at taking
Tbf dealing with irregular warfare is the hardest part
But you'd think they would be used to it by now
celest cedar
The US army isn't really geared to the purposes it's being used, it's a streamro...
yeah just look at Afghanistan
storm jungle
Vietnam has been like the only country thats recovered after a major US invasion because the US quit early and left
storm jungle
Tbf dealing with irregular warfare is the hardest part
But you'd think they wo...
They dont learn unless its how to bomb people better
vagrant fox
Vietnam is so weird, first the war with the USA and then China decides to give it a go very soon afterwards
tough haven
they'll bomb them to submission, deploy a minor amount of troops then install a ...
Then have it collapse, cause a extremist regime of their own making, go to war to put it down, repeat ad infinitum
That’s the US way
celest dome
Just saw someone excuse the school bombing by saying that schools were bombed during WW2 💀
arctic talon
Vietnam has been like the only country thats recovered after a major US invasion...
Korea
queen laurel
They dont learn unless its how to bomb people better
if america was challenged to break reality and they we're rewarded with omniscient bombs that can hit anyone they will do it
arctic talon
As in North Korea
North Korea only imploded due to decisions made by the second Kim
celest cedar
the US has lost ever major war its been in for the most part for a reason
theyve been running on past glories for over 80 years now
opaque coyote
Then have it collapse, cause a extremist regime of their own making, go to war t...
Honestly I doubt it is fully for war profit making.
Mainly because the loss of trying to help (unsuccessfully) Afghanistan outweighs any of the military profit
celest cedar
waiter waiter, more WW2 films please
arctic talon
North Korea was doing a lot better post Korean War then South Korea
This is literally fact
storm jungle
theyve been running on past glories for over 80 years now
Theres still people also saying they didnt "lose" vietnam
arctic talon
North Korea screwed themselves over
vagrant fox
Yeah South Korea was a shithole for a long time
tough haven
I also love how we just making shit up blatantly to justify this one
vagrant fox
maybe it still is idk
arctic talon
Now it’s a capitalist hellhole
tough haven
After saying a year ago the reason we’re going to war now doesn’t exist
opaque coyote
Theres still people also saying they didnt "lose" vietnam
It's partially because they're dumbasses and try to judge Vietnam on conventional criteria when the Vietnam war itself was anything but conventional
storm jungle
I legit cannot believe people think Iran is gonna be better after this
storm jungle
it will just be another dictatorship, now western backed
arctic talon
Anyone thinks it will be is delusional
tough haven
Just like 40K, all the factions are evil
storm jungle
YEP
arctic talon
it will just be another dictatorship, now western backed
Might be UAE backed this time 
tough haven
it will just be another dictatorship, now western backed
But don’t you understand, that’s what the US wants
arctic talon
No war president btw
jade holly
What are Exodites branded as in Eldar society?
arctic talon
💀
storm jungle
What are Exodites branded as in Eldar society?
Peaceful cousins that must be protected
opaque coyote
I legit cannot believe people think Iran is gonna be better after this
I think they think so because "When at rock bottom, there's nowhere left to go but up."
Too bad the USA has oil drills
storm jungle
I think they think so because "When at rock bottom, there's nowhere left to go b...
No they legit think its gonna be good
jade holly
Peaceful cousins that must be protected
They’re not stated as having walked a path?
arctic talon
They don’t walk a path
storm jungle
they are still being exploited lol
opaque coyote
No they legit think its gonna be good
Okay yeah that's just dumbassery
storm jungle
They’re not stated as having walked a path?
They dont wlak paths
celest cedar
Im sure theres also elements of bringing back Iran before the Iranian revolution bullshit too 💀
storm jungle
Correct but they wont le tthat happen
arctic talon
Replacing theocratic facism with normal facism
storm jungle
Iran is never gonna get nationalized
arctic talon
My favorite
jade holly
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Exodite
Oh they left before Slaanesh was born?
arctic talon
Yeah
storm jungle
Oh they left before Slaanesh was born?
Yes
jade holly
Or was it they knew it was coming and dipped
arctic talon
They left before slaanesh was born
opaque coyote
I see
Basically Exodites are the equivalent of those people who decide to disconnect themselves from the Internet and live with the woods.
Only they actually researched beforehand and don't die like dumbasses
arctic talon
They were return to monkey society
celest cedar
but like that happened due to the people themselves dissastisfied with the wealth disparity between the rich liberal Iranians, and the reality of the common Iranians
jade holly
For lack of a better word they’re the Wood Elves of 40K
arctic talon
Exodites be like “the industrial revolution was a mistake”
celest cedar
this attack is just straight up destablizing the region again 💀
tough haven
No war president btw
Exactly
opaque coyote
No war president btw
"I stopped like 10,000 wars"
kidnaps Venezuela leader
starts a war with Iran
never made peace with a single country
celest cedar
same as how the US is a plutocracy
isnt that just oligarchy
storm jungle
Probably idk
arctic talon
Oligarchy isn’t always rich
storm jungle
> never made peace with a single country
dont forget killing a cartel leader and then throwing mexico into chaos
im watching combat footage rn
arctic talon
dont forget killing a cartel leader and then throwing mexico into chaos
That was Mexico that killed them
storm jungle
mexican army is tearing ass
arctic talon
Not the US 💀
storm jungle
Not the US 💀
Same thing tbh
arctic talon
Lol
opaque coyote
That was Mexico that killed them
Tbf I think it was supported by the US military somewhat
arctic talon
Probably
opaque coyote
But yeah uhhh
"Whoops"
storm jungle
Tbf I think it was supported by the US military somewhat
Oh yeah speaking of
arctic talon
I mean they expected that to happen
storm jungle
im 99% sure now the riots by the public prior to this in Iran was propagated by the Mossad and CIA
arctic talon
They expect this to happen every time they remove a cartel head
storm jungle
its way too perfect lol
opaque coyote
They expect this to happen every time they remove a cartel head
With no preventative measure beforehand
Fantastic
arctic talon
Well yeah
celest cedar
That was Mexico that killed them
afaik Mexican intelligence and CIA worked closely and the information they got through the collab led to the Mexican SF sending the team to capture Mencho
opaque coyote
Love the Mexican and US government
jade holly
So in a way The Exodites are some of the last few… what the word I want to use is. Untainted? Untouched? Pure? They’re not influenced by Slaanesh in any way. Clean from the stain of chaos corruption
storm jungle
yeah they just forget cartels sometimes have militiamen tier gear
arctic talon
Mexico and the rest of central Americas strategy has been to cut the head off and the rest will fall
storm jungle
also like actual equipment
celest cedar
only Mencho didnt survive his gunshot wounds during the firefight so now he's dead 💀
arctic talon
Also yeah the cartels get a ton of weaponry
opaque coyote
Mexico and the rest of central Americas strategy has been to cut the head off an...
The problem is that criminals don't really work like that
arctic talon
Usually from the US or USSR surplus
opaque coyote
Like it isn't a traditional structure. They'll eventually just reorganize
And do it all over again
arctic talon
I mean there is a traditional structure but they’ve adapted
opaque coyote
Because there's still a "market"
storm jungle
the problem is like
arctic talon
The market needs to be removed
celest cedar
Mexico and the rest of central Americas strategy has been to cut the head off an...
this sort of strategy is how CJNG got huge 💀
opaque coyote
You need to do more than just cut off the head.
You need to burn the neck so that it doesn't grow back
opaque coyote
the cartels are LITERALLY supported by the US
Also true
storm jungle
You need to do more than just cut off the head.
You need to burn the neck so th...
thats what they did with Escobar yeah
celest cedar
they just replaced the previous gang and its leadership after he got murked
storm jungle
the problem is Escobar would have been a non-issue and lived a cushy life
but he was way too arrogant
he only got intercepted heavily because his shit was causing issues in the US
if it wasnt? He'd be left alone
actually insane
opaque coyote
the problem is Escobar would have been a non-issue and lived a cushy life
Pride cometh before the fall
storm jungle
Escobar would also 100% become a US/CIA asset if he wasnt so flippant lmao
arctic talon
But the strategy of “kill cartel head” fundamentally doesn’t work
Because someone will always replace them
As long as there’s a market
opaque coyote
Money!!
jade holly
So I’m getting mixed results when I look up exodite dragon knights. Do they look like well armored and regal warriors or what a typical stereotypical primal caveman esque character would look like?
celest dome
And that they're already competing for top dog position anyway
storm jungle
But the strategy of “kill cartel head” fundamentally doesn’t work
my favorite part is Ghost Recon Wildlands literally has an entire plot around this lmao
The entire game is you killing EVERY SINGLE cartel elite, underboss, lieutenant etc.
arctic talon
So I’m getting mixed results when I look up exodite dragon knights. Do they look...
Both tbh
opaque coyote
As long as there’s a market
And said market will never fully go away.
You can make it smaller. But it will never go away
storm jungle
and the last remaining target is the cartel boss
arctic talon
And said market will never fully go away.
You can make it smaller. But it will ...
Reducing its size is enough to calm cartels down
storm jungle
the problem is this is never done IRL lol
arctic talon
my favorite part is Ghost Recon Wildlands literally has an entire plot around th...
Tbh that game is also wrong bcs another cartel would move in
After you kill the cartel boss
lol
storm jungle
YEP
jade holly
Sounds like instead of cutting the serpent’s head off the strategy is to cut the octopus’s arms off before you go for the head
storm jungle
Sounds like instead of cutting the serpent’s head off the strategy is to cut the...
thats the issue
cartels and gangs in general are endless
arctic talon
so like lmao
Okay but it’s cool
storm jungle
they exist because theres a demand
arctic talon
You cannot remove criminality
celest cedar
Escobar would also 100% become a US/CIA asset if he wasnt so flippant lmao
control the problem ahh solution lowkey
opaque coyote
my favorite part is Ghost Recon Wildlands literally has an entire plot around th...
Mfw a video game does more to try and get rid of the cartel than the actual military
arctic talon
There’s literally criminal organizations in NORTH KOREA
lol
The most heavily survailed and authoritarian state
Has criminal activity in it
opaque coyote
There’s literally criminal organizations in NORTH KOREA
Tbf they also partially helped it along because North Korea used to make money off of drug trading
arctic talon
As in not backed by the government
Nah I’m not counting that stuff
The government sanctioned criminal stuff isn’t real crime
jade holly
The government sanctioned criminal stuff isn’t real crime
That’s just being a privateer with extra steps
celest cedar
You cannot remove criminality
it also stems from economic issue. Cartels started because of how profitable it is for poor rural farmers to cultivate and get rich off of
arctic talon
Yeah basically
opaque coyote
A lot of people who knows how to make drugs
And they don't have a job anymore
So what do you do with those new found skills?
Use it
celest dome
Was it Meth that is epidemic in N.Korea ? or was it something else
arctic talon
The central and South American cartels will never die
arctic talon
Was it Meth that is epidemic in N.Korea ? or was it something else
Nicotine and meth yes for the poor
opaque coyote
Apparently coke is so popular in N.Korea that families get it as a gift
opaque coyote
Cause they treat it like a really extreme version of 5 hour energy
celest dome
An old Diplomat I knew once told me that the Russian would joke that a normal N.Korean breakfast was a serving of Meth and some rice
arctic talon
Cigarettes are a big thing in North Korea
Both culturally and consumption wise
They stave off hunger
opaque coyote
Cigarettes are a big thing in North Korea
Yeah even Kim Jong Un smokes
arctic talon
So the government always issues them to the army
army soldiers want actual good food though
jade holly
Do I need to be interested in the Kroot if I want to look into a Tau army?
arctic talon
So they sell some of their smokes
celest dome
Cigarettes are a big thing in North Korea
Also contraband export for cigarette
arctic talon
Yeah
opaque coyote
army soldiers want actual good food though
And the average soldier in North Korea is uh
arctic talon
Some of the expensive NK brands are popular in Chinese border regions
opaque coyote
Kinda fucked anatomy wise
arctic talon
Lol
opaque coyote
I love tapeworms
celest dome
Do I need to be interested in the Kroot if I want to look into a Tau army?
Most Tau armies don't even have any Kroot
arctic talon
And the average soldier in North Korea is uh
They’re very well fed compared to the rest of the country
jade holly
Most Tau armies don't even have any Kroot
So I could go full battlesuits if I wanted?
opaque coyote
They’re very well fed compared to the rest of the country
Which is the saddest part
arctic talon
Which is to say the rest of the country lives in a state of semi starvation
opaque coyote
Cause even then they're severely malnourished
celest dome
I think you'd still need some Firewarrior for battle line but I'm not sure, never had much more than a KT for the Tau
arctic talon
Kim Jong Un and the current NK upper class eats less then Kim Jong Il’s upper class and him
Which I’m not sure if it’s cultural
jade holly
The Kin have slowly moved up the list in terms of favorite faction for me
jade holly
Right now it’s:
- Necrons
- Iron Warriors
- Kin
arctic talon
Bcs NK is doing better rn in terms of food I’d assume bcs they’re not asking for food aid
opaque coyote
Which I’m not sure if it’s cultural
Probably cultural given how Il died due to his diet
jade holly
Kindred is something else in the Kin
arctic talon
Kindred is a structure within the LoV
jade holly
Yeah but the race isn’t called Kindred
celest dome
Bcs NK is doing better rn in terms of food I’d assume bcs they’re not asking fo...
I think it would be cultural, as N.Korea does seem to plan some sort of High cost vacation stations for their friendly nations and all
jade holly
Which is why I corrected it
opaque coyote
Bcs NK is doing better rn in terms of food I’d assume bcs they’re not asking fo...
Either way, I hope North Korea fucking collapses
Despite the refugee crisis it would probably cause
arctic talon
The regime? Prolly not
opaque coyote
I know
arctic talon
Not under Un
opaque coyote
I can dream though
jade holly
I’ve heard some people say Un’s sister is the mastermind
Idk anything about that so idk what to think of that statement
opaque coyote
Maybe under whoever is next
Maybe if China stops supplying em
arctic talon
Nah it’s both of them
Un’s sister is very important though
Un has less central power then Il
Which is shocking
celest dome
If it would collapse it would probably be due to Chinese influence to try to sweep up and claim the territory, but atm China is better of keeping N.K. as a client state and cheap (if not free) labour immigration
arctic talon
Because NK is more authoritarian/survailed then ever
jade holly
Is Un moreso a figurehead?
arctic talon
No
opaque coyote
Is Un moreso a figurehead?
Nah he's definitely still dictator
Just relegated some of his responsibilities to others
jade holly
So the central head of a hydra then
opaque coyote
Mmm basically
Also on a semi related note.
Japan also has a population of North Koreans
celest dome
His sister is head of propaganda and "agitation"
There were people believing that she would do a coup, like a load of years ago
arctic talon
that was when he was in a coma(potentially)
she also got removed from her position 1 year later
before being reinstated
so I'm sure something happened
jade holly
Failed coup 
arctic talon
Also on a semi related note.
Japan also has a population of North Koreans
technically just Koreans
they were there before the split occured
opaque coyote
technically just Koreans
The Zainichi Koreans they're called
vagrant fox
Kindred is something else in the Kin
arctic talon
The Zainichi Koreans they're called
Go brainrot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxcAXamuyR4
opaque coyote
Go brainrot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxcAXamuyR4
Yeah I think it's Chongryon
arctic talon
Bakushin the horse irl was owned by Zainichi Koreans who very publically supported Kim Jong Il
lol
opaque coyote
That is specifically North Korean based
arctic talon
or rather the company they owned did
opaque coyote
Mindan is South Korea based
vagrant fox
the norks are a queer folk
opaque coyote
Go brainrot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxcAXamuyR4
Also
BAKUSHIN BAKUSHIN BAKUSHIN
BAKUSHIN
jade holly
You think Trazyn has a Votann collecting dust in storage somewhere?
opaque coyote
BAKUSHINSHIN!!
winter pine
You think Trazyn has a Votann collecting dust in storage somewhere?
most def I think
vagrant fox
Trazyn has OG squats in storage
jade holly
His own personal clone army
opaque coyote
Bakushin the horse irl was owned by Zainichi Koreans who very publically support...
But yeah the Chongryon are uh
Fucking weird to say the least
arctic talon
You think Trazyn has a Votann collecting dust in storage somewhere?
Yes
jade holly
The Curators of Solemnace
opaque coyote
NGL, I have zero idea on how they still exist
celest dome
You think Trazyn has a Votann collecting dust in storage somewhere?
At the very least he would have some Squats, so yes.
opaque coyote
Like it's awkward to have a portion of your population praise North Korea and wish for death on the country they lived in
vagrant fox
I thought that kind of Korean went to Japan to be even more miserable these days
opaque coyote
Especially since Korea historically has a sour relationship with Japan
A very sour relationship
opaque coyote
I thought that kind of Korean went to Japan to be even more miserable these days
Nah they were initially forced to move
celest dome
Turk in Germany, Morrocan in France 💀
jade holly
How Trazyn stole a Votann
opaque coyote
And then were basically stuck there
But Japan treated Korea like garbage
Like
It's actually really fucked
celest dome
Japan's treatment of any of the country that is in Asia sucked.
jade holly
Realistically speaking having a Votann on Solemnace would be one Hell of a strategic advantage for a League if he gave them a decent amount of freedom
No one could raid your league
Wait a minute… raid… league…
crisp heath
this server was sponsored by...
opaque coyote
But in general Chongryon is just weird.
It's like if the USA allowed people who explicitly supported say...
Isis to exist and have private schools and an entire community. And they made up like 6% of the population
celest dome
Realistically speaking having a Votann on Solemnace would be one Hell of a strat...
But he wouldn't
jade holly
This mining expedition was brought to you by:
Solemnace Storage and Acquisitions. Why bother hoarding? Let us hold it for you
celest dome
But in general Chongryon is just weird.
It's like if the USA allowed people who...
Or like the US accepting people supporting the Confederacy
opaque coyote
...oh yeah
At least the Confederacy doesn't exist
Any.ore
And isn't a present threat
Constantly threatening to nuke the USA
celest dome
It could have existed less
opaque coyote
So true
jade holly
Imagine if the Confederacy had that Concord lifespan
celest dome
Had Sherman been given more freedom
opaque coyote
Imagine if the Confederacy had that Concord lifespan
The annoying orange lasted longer than the confederacy
arctic talon
Imagine if the Confederacy had that Concord lifespan
LOL
the funny thing is if that happened its highly likely black people + slavery wouldn't have been outlawed
jade holly
Imagine being older than a country, could be me
opaque coyote
Concord will be in gaming history
arctic talon
Hell I wonder how long it would take for abolition to become a thing
if the confederacy imploded and never got off its feet
opaque coyote
Hell I wonder how long it would take for abolition to become a thing
Tbf I doubt it would've lasted much longer from the civil war
International pressure + machines being a thing
opaque coyote
Would make slavery (at least how the South did slavery) worse on a profit level
arctic talon
the cotton gin just led to more slavery
Eli Whitney being an abolitionist prolly wanted to eat a gun considering what his invention caused
opaque coyote
Also I think there was a cotton infection that caused South to be forced to actually plant more than cash crops
vagrant fox
I've read a bunch about how industrialization would've made slavery pointless and I don't quite see the correlation but maybe it's true
jade holly
Wait… are Votann just the CEOs of Leagues?
jade holly
arctic talon
I've read a bunch about how industrialization would've made slavery pointless an...
ehhhh no. It happened in the North only because slavery was already growing more and more unpopular
jade holly
Votann meetings
arctic talon
The cotton gin literally did the opposite in the south
much to the horror of its inventor
LOL
storm jungle
Japan's treatment of any of the country that is in Asia sucked.
man i remember watching the latest Hunter episode in Philippines
arctic talon
but I'm not sure what he was expecting
storm jungle
and then the log's ending bit mentions this was before Japan invaded
and i was like 💀
opaque coyote
ehhhh no. It happened in the North only because slavery was already growing more...
I find it funny that the South was generally considered to be fucking weird even before the Civil War
vagrant fox
I feel like you'd just have had industrialised slavery yeah
arctic talon
"this one device can do the same work of 10 slaves"
he thought that would make less slaves
he was uh
very wrong
And slavery for cotton exploded
opaque coyote
"this one device can do the same work of 10 slaves"
10x efficiency for 10 slaves....
So more slaves
jade holly
Wait that’s exactly what happened with the machine gun too. The inventor made it so wars would eventually become 2 guys shooting each other with one
vagrant fox
Put the name up there with Alfred Nobel
jade holly
But then people went “I’ll take 100”
arctic talon
But horribly misplaced ideals lol
opaque coyote
because of the cotton gin
Yeah honestly I would've either eaten a musket
Or decided to become another John Brown
arctic talon
he thought the transiton the north of the US went through
would go through even faster with the cotton gin
but he fucking forgot the crucial period
where slavery became not profitable at all
and indentured servitude another flavor of slavery was more popular
opaque coyote
But horribly misplaced ideals lol
Tbf I still think the Cotton Gin was good overall because it allowed industrialization of clothes and cotton.
But honestly the consequences are uh
Very present
arctic talon
Yeah honestly I would've either eaten a musket
Or decided to become another Joh...
funnily enough Eli Whitney went on to make guns for the US government
opaque coyote
funnily enough Eli Whitney went on to make guns for the US government
"Despite the social and economic impact of his invention, Whitney lost much of his profits in legal battles over patent infringement for the cotton gin. Thereafter, he turned his attention to securing contracts with the government in the manufacture of muskets for the newly formed United States Army. He continued making arms and inventing until his death in 1825."
Oof
arctic talon
But then people went “I’ll take 100”
it happens anytime someone tries to lessen the ammount of people needed for something when you need a human to operate something lol
jade holly
Edison whenever an inventor makes something
vagrant fox
more and more of my friends are playing deadlock it's fucking over
vagrant fox
no
jade holly
Part of the crew part of the ship
vagrant fox
I wonder how the south would look now if reconstruction had kept up
jade holly
So from what I read up Exodite gear is usually fashioned based on the world they’re on plus some CWE trading for stuff they need
celest dome
man i remember watching the latest Hunter episode in Philippines
Hunter, like Hunter x Hunter, that dragon hunting game or something else ?
jade holly
So realistically you can make Exodites look like anything?
storm jungle
Hunter, like Hunter x Hunter, that dragon hunting game or something else ?
Parenting
celest dome
Oh
celest dome
Ye that make more sense
storm jungle
So realistically you can make Exodites look like anything?
No they got a theme, you'd just need to make it slightly match the area
jade holly
Ah ok
arctic talon
its when Fatigue says he left the area just as Japan's invasion started
Worse things happened to the Philippines💀
when that happened
storm jungle
Worse things happened to the Philippines💀
💀
jade holly
So Eldary plus whatever the planet’s resources are?
arctic talon
much much much worse things
storm jungle
So Eldary plus whatever the planet’s resources are?
Look to the bottom of the lexi page
arctic talon
I do find the naivety of people at the start of WW2 hilarious thinking that Japan would not go uber warcrime on everyone because they didn't go uberwarcrime on Taiwan
but seeing the ideology the military was pushing at the time
uh...... lol
jade holly
Okay they look kinda sick
storm jungle
Jes Goodwin always cooks
jade holly
I do find the naivety of people at the start of WW2 hilarious thinking that Japa...
Let it be known Yi Sun Sin never lost to Japan even when he died
celest dome
I do find the naivety of people at the start of WW2 hilarious thinking that Japa...
Like on the European side or the Asian side ?
arctic talon
Like on the European side or the Asian side ?
both lmao
jade holly
13 ships and a dream
celest dome
Shit man, I could understand for the Euro side as we just don't know Japan quite as well, but did Japan just hide it just that well or what
jade holly
Damn now I wanna homebrew a turtle ship and Yi Sun Sin inspired group for a faction but idk which faction
arctic talon
Shit man, I could understand for the Euro side as we just don't know Japan quite...
I mean they were pushing that ideology while they had colonies so they just assumed they'd treat conquered territory the same way
(they didn't)
vagrant fox
Must've been something in the air around that time of the century for all these things to happen
daring creek
A tortoise themed space marine chapter based around being as fortified as possible would be kinda cool.
Though that doesn't feel original...i should give Dante a read since I believe thats a deconstruction of what a space marine is
Shoulder mounted guns on a space marine sounds very cool
vagrant fox
Quite the interesting mature content description for the Rogue Trader Infinite Museion DLC lads
vagrant fox
A tortoise themed space marine chapter based around being as fortified as possib...
Imp fisters or Iron Warriors but turtle themed?
daring creek
Ah
Maybe idk. Don't know shit about those chapters
First thing I had in mind is the average marine looking like a terminator. But that feels like way too much. And I still don't know enough about marines...mm
last stone
Well they are the builder chapters
daring creek
Hm
last stone
They builders and the anti-builders at the same time
rocky gale
Played that new Star Trek Voyager game, it's actually pretty fun
hollow lantern
Shoulder mounted guns on a space marine sounds very cool
I know the deathwatch RPG lets you do it, marines on rare occasion get them on models
rocky gale
But it's real hard, was playing it on Story mode and still lost so many times
hollow lantern
One of the Imp Fist captains has a shoulder mounted grav gun
Blanking on his name, looks like the small soldiers big bad
crisp heath
playing with bots is so nice
def dont want to rip my hair off having to play this alone cause EVERYONE KEEPS TRYING TO GRIND TECHMARINE AS WELL
storm jungle
storm jungle
playing with bots is so nice <:Astolfo_smile:860569859657826324>
Also dont play Exfiltration
do Vox Terminatus or whatever with Tsons or the one with the sandstorms/macro cannon shell
they are the quickest missions
crisp heath
yeah i kinda forgot about that
i was sincerely hoping some dumbfuck to join mid game
but they didnt
storm jungle
Tell me about it lol
but again pro tip
mute the game, open shit in the background to listen to, and just play
arctic talon
Is “cook the rotten bastards” not faster
storm jungle
Is “cook the rotten bastards” not faster
Prometheium chain segment can REALLY drag
vagrant fox
If you focus mostly on something completely different you can uninstall the game faster
storm jungle
especially due to generator defense RNG
arctic talon
Prometheium chain segment can REALLY drag
I see
vagrant fox
I tried the techpriest, got 10 levels in and couldn't do it man
storm jungle
LMFAO
the attack pattern is just SO fucking bad man
if we are getting admech i pray fatshark cooks better
sacred ginkgo
All they have to do is copy paste vt2 halberd and we're good
vagrant fox
Fatshark style on these Sabre clowns
sacred ginkgo
Incan cooked hard enough for two games hopefully
vagrant fox
You can also run at enemies with the pointy bit
vagrant fox
Yeah mostly I just babysay the sentry turrets and pressed q sometimes
sacred ginkgo
Maybe this is why there are no real polearms outside of custodes
Cause they have no idea how to make them work
vagrant fox
I would like to see more polearms in 40k
sacred ginkgo
Gsc PLEASE
vagrant fox
hundreds more of these in formation to get blown up by a random phosphex round
sacred ginkgo
Save us
cerulean trellis
hundreds more of these in formation to get blown up by a random phosphex round
omg i want this weapon in darktide OwO
GIB GIB GIB
opaque coyote
hundreds more of these in formation to get blown up by a random phosphex round
Genuinely looks really fucking cool
Nfl
Give
Give
Give
ShUT THE FUCK UP HADRON
GIVE ME MY FUCKING POLEARM
heady rivet
Love the event when I build for it but it makes quickplay unplayable with any other build
crisp heath
hundreds more of these in formation to get blown up by a random phosphex round
Coffin shield
whos grandma casket is that
vagrant fox
pick your granny
cerulean trellis
pick your granny
looked at it and my brain went: i wear your granddads clothes... i look incredible
arctic talon
rip ruffles
rose thorn
WATCH YOUR FUCKING MOUTH GEN-Z'ER
DONT GROUP ME WITH THEMMMM
Unlike Gen Z I can ask for extra pickles on my sandwich
storm jungle
DO NOT INSULT THE TOMBKINGS
rose thorn
I DIDNT LIKE 1999 THE MUMMY
rocky gale
Okay now hold on
rose thorn
OR THE MUMMY RETURNS
rocky gale
I DIDNT LIKE 1999 THE MUMMY
I was going to ratebait Dilara, but this takes precedent
rose thorn
You say that like it didn’t wanan be Indiana jones
heady rivet
what is this dogshit lmao
storm jungle
which Indiana Jones itself literally was made as an homage of?
Its simply a fun time. Idk how anyone cannot like it
rocky gale
the oldest person in Gen Z rn is like 29 years old
Me
rose thorn
I didn’t even say it was bad even though it’s a hard stuck 3/5
rose thorn
Lmao
storm jungle
Likely....
rocky gale
It's a shame
vagrant fox
I mean it's not better than Atlantis The Lost Empire but it's like, close behind
solid horizon
god I wish its not skit
storm jungle
god I wish its not skit
we can only wait and see
solid horizon
dont get me wrong I love my guards with gadgets
storm jungle
i hope its a techpriest
solid horizon
dont get me wrong I love my guards with gadgets
Just not in the game
arctic talon
Therefore my Opinion matters more/j
vagrant fox
Deep in my heart I want it to be a remote controlled tech thrall with a bomb collar but I'll take a tech adept
solid horizon
I mean I main ad mech too
I wouldnt mind a servitor
skits are not fitting I think
vagrant fox
I'll have to strike you down then, shame
vagrant fox
They can be, they're just normal people though
flat nimbus
I think the biggest thing for Skittari is just… how much would they even banter
solid horizon
I know technoarcheologists and engineseer
arctic talon
I think the biggest thing for Skittari is just… how much would they even banter
Skitarii are sentient and sapient
So they’d banter fine
solid horizon
they'd have that heavly ring modulated voice lmao
rocky gale
I would prefer Skitarii