40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

their perception is very bad lol

[arctic talon]

They’re also a gang champion

[lament shoal]

And even then the gangers are super competent too

[arctic talon]

Regarding their lore

They’re not some random standard ganger

[storm jungle]

Yeah people dont realise these people are who fucking SPACE MARINES take aspirants from

[near wasp]

Crackheads can make the best soldiers

[young pecan]

Probably for the first like fifteen to twenty levels we're still seen as expendable trash, or at least treated like it

[arctic talon]

Me when the giant horrifying black armored giant drags away a juve after a firefight

(They were never seen again)

[last oyster]

But still there is ko way we could like go against the Death Guard still, right ? Atleast lore wise

[arctic talon]

I mean we can

We got the weapons for it

[storm jungle]

Plasma and krak goes brrrrrrrrr

[arctic talon]

The issue is more so their aura

Of disease

[gilded tinsel]

You could, but the marine would have to be weakened first

[arctic talon]

We could kill them

[young pecan]

The last """campaign""" mission in the game starts with a cutscene where Rannick says something to the effect of "You may just barely be more useful than a fodder but you're still expendable"

[arctic talon]

Getting close would fucking suck

[young pecan]

Like thanks man

[arctic talon]

But plasma guns and krak can kill them

[gilded tinsel]

plague marines are the most tank like of the chaos marines

[arctic talon]

power weapons work

[lament shoal]

Shoutout to the imperial fists, taking recruits from necromunda's finest street murderers

[arctic talon]

You just have to do a lot of damage

[storm jungle]

Krak

[gilded tinsel]

plus just being near one is deadly

[arctic talon]

Bcs plague marines get back up a lot of the time

[storm jungle]

also imma be real

[arctic talon]

Even though they’re missing shit they need to live

[storm jungle]

the "you die if you are near a plague marine" thing dies the moment a protagonist has to kill one

lol

[gilded tinsel]

can a single krak grenade crack a plague marines armour without releasing a cloud of super diarrhea gas

[arctic talon]

That’s a beast of Nurgle, plague marines just make you shit yourself

[storm jungle]

Who cares, its dead.

[arctic talon]

Literally

[near wasp]

Not even a plasma gun can absolutely cook a marine and even In one of the books a group of gaurdsman jump a marine in a trench and kill him in melee

[lament shoal]

Our characters are vaccinated thats why

[jade holly]

Plague Marines when they fight a helmetless named blueberry:

“Guess I’m not contagious anymore”

[gilded tinsel]

This wasn't a Cain novel was it?

[young pecan]

Give them a blank and a krak and any normal character can kill a plague marine

[near wasp]

Nope

Plague wars

[gilded tinsel]

I vaguely remember Cain's sidekick absolutely demolishing a Khornate with a melra gun

[storm jungle]

People glaze plague marines endlessly but have never read books where they get absolutely decimated lol

[jade holly]

Aren’t Plague Marines some of the hardest marines to kill? Like can easily still be done, but Nurgle shenanigans make it a bit harder?

[arctic talon]

We have the stuff

[young pecan]

I like Nurgle but let's be so fr rn

[arctic talon]

We just gotta shoot them until they die lol

[storm jungle]

^

[gilded tinsel]

Winning formula

[arctic talon]

Plague marines are a pain in the ass to kill

But we can kill them

We have the tools

The big thing is to don’t stop shooting till it stops moving

[lament shoal]

Yeah meltas don't fucking care how much armor you've got, they're that powerful. Any competent marine knows its better to avoid getting it by a beam from one as opposed to relying on their armor to tank it

[gilded tinsel]

just set the Ogryn on it

[storm jungle]

People also forget plague marines usually deploy with lots of support elements, they wont survive if its just them by their lonesome

[jade holly]

I’ve heard enough, let us fight a squad of Blightlord Terminators

[last oyster]

I did not think about the plague aspect of the Marines...since apparently we are always running around infected people and not getting even the flu I though we had some kind of plot immunity to nurgles plague

[storm jungle]

We kinda do

[arctic talon]

vaxinate the ogryn with everything

[storm jungle]

also we get de-contaminated

[gilded tinsel]

we definitely do

[arctic talon]

give them a power pick

and let them go

[near wasp]

It's also faith

[storm jungle]

Morrow oturight says if you come back infected hes gonna kill you in a mission drop lol

[arctic talon]

We kind of have plot armor lol

Jokes aside the walking pox is preventable

via sheer willpower

[jade holly]

gets devoured by a BoN mid mission and return

[arctic talon]

so yeah

we also get cleansed in other ways

which sounds uh

unpleseant

[young pecan]

I've heard a theory that we're blessed by rituals, Idk though

[gilded tinsel]

that's why Ogryn and zealot are near impervious then

[arctic talon]

it involves scalpels

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-gif-16940124723318557081

[young pecan]

It would make more sense than "we hab good medicine"

[gilded tinsel]

It's the purity seals

[arctic talon]

Me when I shoot a plague ogryn but I only hit their brain

[gilded tinsel]

Stick enough purity seals on and you're good to go

for the emprah

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/rex-splode-gif-13025135130886309904

[arctic talon]

jokes aside of our arsenal every class has a few options that can kill something in power armor

without issue

[last oyster]

Ty for the info. There is just too much info online that I just get confused lmao

[arctic talon]

mfw Ogryn

mmmmm raw strength

[lament shoal]

Brawler ogryn getting his poor little brain fried by his malfunctioning bone'ead implant

Love the guy

[gilded tinsel]

I always choose the Slavic ogryn

[arctic talon]

they should get Krall or Hadron to take a look at that

[gilded tinsel]

i find him funny

[near wasp]

My beloved says the stinky must die

[storm jungle]

Most online 40k fans got no idea what they are talking about and dont read the source material

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-like-that-will-happen-gif-14783019212194612503

[young pecan]

Give an ogryn his hands and he will defeat most threats
Give an ogryn a sufficiently durable metal pipe and he will defeat all threats

[gilded tinsel]

Source material expensive

wiki and meme lore is free

[storm jungle]

You can read the source material through many other means

[lament shoal]

Novels are like 20 to 30 bucks here in California. Not that bad

[storm jungle]

They dont even read the wiki

[gilded tinsel]

I have the Night Lords Omnibus on my kindle atm

sailing the seas is a lot easier than paying amazon

[young pecan]

Would help if Fandom.com was brutally ripped apart by a pack of feral rabies-infested dogs

[jade holly]

You think Trazyn would be crazy enough to yoink one of these and make his own League

[last oyster]

Omg so is the Astartes cinematic not accurate about Space Marines power level ?

My dreams are shattered

[daring creek]

no its fan made lol

[arctic talon]

The cinematic is bolter porn, so its meant to make the marines as strong as possible

[lament shoal]

Y'know I do really like how combat experienced and "sane" the bounty hunter scum character sounds in his kill dialogue, its very fitting

[arctic talon]

But the multi las scene shoudl be bad

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

lol

for the marine

💀

Aside from that its fine

[young pecan]

A marine is the strongest character in the setting or fodder depending on how the author feels like writing them

[hollow lantern]

the autocannon and multilas honestly probably wouldve killed the marines shot by em

[last oyster]

I didnt understand how they died so easily after watching the cinematic and playing Space Marines 2

[arctic talon]

The multilaser should have fucked u pthe marines

lol

[arctic talon]

The autocannon missed all its shots

the dude had shit aim

[young pecan]

Marines can supposedly tank small caliber bullets to the face
But also die if a random hobo with a wooden spear hits them in the neck

[arctic talon]

but the multi las scene is a bit inexcusible lol

[hollow lantern]

i thought the AC hit shoulderpad tbh

[arctic talon]

its super cool

and aura farming

[jade holly]

Get fucked that one Word Bearer lmao

[near wasp]

The multilas didn't hit the guy for long enough to kill him

[arctic talon]

But you'd mcfucking die as a marine if you tried that

it wouldn't kill him

but it should have injured

[daring creek]

maybe it was a really sharp stick

[last oyster]

Damn lmao

[arctic talon]

but the dudes armor just has a bunch of little marks

rather then being dented up

[young pecan]

When you think about it it makes sense
bullet is round and stupid
spear is sharp and strong

Ofc bullet bounce off

[last oyster]

I was reading also that apparently Custodes are super OP but then they gave permission to write a book to someone that was not too knowledgeable of the lore and though they were like regular "palace guards" and made an Eldar assassin kill like 6

[lament shoal]

Marines can tank small to medium arms fire with their armor, provided none of the rounds hit any unarmored points. But when it comes to explosive weaponry and artillery? They're fucked if they get hit

[last oyster]

Its super confusing lmao

[arctic talon]

nah that was in line with custodes lore back then

lol

Custodes pre late 7e rewrite were just

[storm jungle]

That "eldar assassin" was not a "regular" thing

[arctic talon]

very undefined lore wise

[storm jungle]

Harlequins go toe-to-toe with greater daemons lol

[arctic talon]

Yeah that also

[storm jungle]

they are very much matched

[arctic talon]

its a bunch of harlequins

so 💀

[storm jungle]

the fandom again cannot read, dont worry about it

[arctic talon]

the thing is that Custodes lore used to be very vague

[near wasp]

They also died too probably

[last oyster]

Yeah a Harlequin mb dont know about those

[arctic talon]

this was before Custodes got a total rewrite

Custodes are only like

[hollow lantern]

drazhar blendered custodes within the last few editions right?

[arctic talon]

8 Years old? in their current state

they're real youngins

setting wise

[near wasp]

Custodes are awesome imo

[last oyster]

They power level changed after ?

[arctic talon]

Yeah but Drazhar is Drazhar

oh custodes are super cool

[arctic talon]

Yes, custodes got retcon'd late 7e to become what they are now

[hollow lantern]

power scaling 40k is stupid

fools errand

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

yeah that also

lol

there's vague brackets

but its very broad

[storm jungle]

Also 40k media overhypes shit and marines A LOT

[arctic talon]

don't think about it like that

[near wasp]

Watch the tithes animation for what a stode can do

[arctic talon]

think about what would be cool for a story

[storm jungle]

people forget a lot of things in 40k can kill space marines lol

[hollow lantern]

the bracket being "whoever the author wants to win will win"

[lament shoal]

Harlequins are very entertaining to me as a concept. They're literally the space elf deep state running everything behind the scenes lmfao

[arctic talon]

[near wasp]

Clowns

[storm jungle]

the best part is you can make a Troupe and make them do anything nonsensical because the reason is "its the Laughing God's plan"

[hollow lantern]

i miss harlies as a standalone army tbh

[storm jungle]

absolute peak

[arctic talon]

So does everyone else smh

except for GW I guess

lol

[near wasp]

That harlequin in lukas instigating everything

[lament shoal]

And no matter how fucking goofy it is, THEY'RE RIGHT

[storm jungle]

I have a Troupe named the Everlasting Facade whos entire thing is being TF2 Spies that sneak into Imperial institutions to fuck with people and ruin officials plans to aid eldar lol

[arctic talon]

honk honk

[storm jungle]

so that like

gives you an idea

lol

[arctic talon]

anyways War of the beast sucked ass lore wise

but the custodes vs harlequins stuff is inline

with what the lore was then

[gilded tinsel]

Jesus Christ the mods on the space marine server are fucking pathetic people

[arctic talon]

which was Custodes are sort of vaguely marine adjacent maybe worse maybe better

depending on who's writing at the time

And Harlequins are murderclowns

and extremely elite

[storm jungle]

What did they do now

lmaoooo

[gilded tinsel]

I got banned a few months ago because I argued with a mod over religion

[storm jungle]

LOL

[gilded tinsel]

my partner went in there to discuss an unbanning

they just banned them

[storm jungle]

bad idea 💀

YEP

[gilded tinsel]

With no reason for it either lmao

[storm jungle]

average space marine fan gathering location moment

fucking twats

[gilded tinsel]

Average chud moderator

[last oyster]

I mean i got permabanned for putting a Clown emoji in the Helldivers discord server to someone

lmao

[lament shoal]

I'm barely active on that server

Its full of chuds

[storm jungle]

AH yes

up there with the infamous "f react" incident

lmaoooo

[last oyster]

Yeah idk weird place

[storm jungle]

power high mods

[arctic talon]

Pride month on the 40k discord is always funny because the mods get free range shooting on Chuds

[lament shoal]

I wish more loyalist marine fans were normal man. I just wanna have a fun conversation about our favorite chapters without getting into an argument about why super fascism is an obvious bad thing

[arctic talon]

few more months till the yearly chud purge occurs

prolly gona be smaller then it normally is though

bcs of the Heresy custodes release

er

reveals

a few months ago

LOL

wait is it weeks or months

[arctic talon]

its like a month

I think

[arctic talon]

have you considered killing innocent people is cool

[arctic talon]

because they're cool

the bringers of judgment are cool smh

[lament shoal]

Nah I meant the people who unironically believe space marines are the good guys

[arctic talon]

oh

[lament shoal]

That sorta thing

[arctic talon]

idfk

[last oyster]

OK LAST LORE QUESTION:

We still get "insulted" by people that send us to mission in plural even when we have an Arbite in the party. Is that just an oversight ? Since Arbites are like the Gestapo of the Imperium and would get them in trouble ?

[storm jungle]

Nah its just the leaders being dipshits

[arctic talon]

The Inqusition does not like them

^

They're getting involved

with the Warband

despite the Inqusition not wanting that

[storm jungle]

Arbites are also too tough/aurafarming to care about petty operator insults.

[arctic talon]

so the inqusition handlers will be assholes lol

[hollow lantern]

does anyone even want the arbites there

[storm jungle]

these people spent half their childhoods being tortured

[arctic talon]

the Arbites want the Arbites to be there

[storm jungle]

some mustachio inquisition goon bad-talking them isnt gonna bother em

[arctic talon]

maybe the lord margrave

but the arbites wouldn't care about being talked down to in that manner

by someone in the inqusition

they get annoyed by the rejects sometimes

but thats because they're "peers"

a superior talking shit is okay

[last oyster]

ok so they are not as petty as a gestapo officer having someone looking bad at them and murdering all their family cuz of it

[lament shoal]

Shoutout to the schola for being the best murderous psychopath generator of the 42nd millennium 🗣️

[arctic talon]

I mean the inqusition is the gestapo

[storm jungle]

^

[young pecan]

All my homies hate Rannick

[last oyster]

Oh got my thing mixed then

[storm jungle]

our point is more Arbites focus on the mission at hand

[arctic talon]

The inqusition holds higher authority

then the arbites

yeah that

[storm jungle]

they dont care about whos shit-talking them

[arctic talon]

the Arbites just want to get it over with

[young pecan]

He's underdeveloped and I hope that's on purpose

[last oyster]

got it

[storm jungle]

Arbites are petty when it has something to do WITH the mission, for example see here. They are still evil as shit

[hollow lantern]

i think its a funny implication that after arbs showed up someone went "fuck it bring the scum onboard and give em inquisitional rights"

[storm jungle]

(hes literally tlaking to a corpse btw)

[last oyster]

LMAO

[storm jungle]

[near wasp]

Aura farming

[arctic talon]

oh it absolutely was lol

[storm jungle]

bros are evil AND aura farming

[arctic talon]

I'm 99% sure rannick did it

[last oyster]

I though it was like a power play from Rannick

[arctic talon]

it is

Rannick wants to reassert his authority

bringing in the Scum is a way of doing so

they're also a good source of firepower/cannon fodder

[near wasp]

Zola will probably be a rival for the interragator position

[hollow lantern]

fuck if game balance is anything to go by scum will turn the tide

goofy ass class

[near wasp]

And probably so will the head of the arbites

[arctic talon]

Zorin is unrelated to the warband

beyond working with them

Zola is next in line of Rannick bites it tho

[hollow lantern]

and rannick is a semi obvious fall guy

[last oyster]

Also the people that have the rank Dukane's has are just 40k Russian NKVD from WW2?

[lament shoal]

As a diehard salamanders fan I actually like that they still do evil marine things. It serves as a good reminder that despite their considerable value of human life, they're still fascist genocidal super soldiers at the end of the day

[arctic talon]

Yeah basically, they’re political officers in charge of the morale of guardsmen

And keeping ideological purity

And the like

[hollow lantern]

no my wholesome green chungus marines

[last oyster]

Damn

[storm jungle]

only took them until like 9th edition and only for 1 company lmao

[last oyster]

its darker than i though lmao

[storm jungle]

reminder tho

IRL commissars werent like

gunmen

[lament shoal]

But I also like how they're a bit of a break from the standard asshole marine archetype.

[storm jungle]

they were literally just officers that disciplined soldiers

[arctic talon]

Yeah the comissars in 40k are more batshit insane lol

[storm jungle]

we have very little records of them shooting people

that was more uhhh

NKVD's thing

lol

[hollow lantern]

i really like blatant asshole chapters at this point

[storm jungle]

also KGB lmao

[hollow lantern]

big fan of the star phantoms

[last oyster]

Yeah thats why i said NKVD

They killed like 10k/40k in Ukraine iirc

[storm jungle]

yep

soviets are cunts

but yeah thats what commissars are

[last oyster]

damn great dark lore then...ill read more aboutt that and less about who has a bigger power level than the other LMAO

[storm jungle]

yeah non-marine stuff in 40k is always way more interesting lol

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Commissar

heres a good palce to start

[last oyster]

Ty!!

[hollow lantern]

if you want torture murderers the best ones arent even imperial

[arctic talon]

Do you guys think Dukane has a refractor field

[hollow lantern]

id love to find out

[lament shoal]

However indulging in a little bit of marine bolter porn is nice from time to time lol

[near wasp]

I sentence you to read dawn of fire continuiosly

[storm jungle]

Guys is anyone here good with guard codexes

[lament shoal]

Tongs was later found dead

[vagrant fox]

no one plays guard

[storm jungle]

I need someone to tell me if a commissar tank commander thingy exists someone, i need to source it lol

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cwbqyqmp/astra-militarum-detachments-artillery-barrages-mechanised-assault-and-stealth-tactics/

[lament shoal]

I play kasrkins

[vagrant fox]

Isn't there art of commissar in tank

[lament shoal]

THEY DID THE THING LMAO

[storm jungle]

[vagrant fox]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tank_Commander#Commissar_Tank_Commander

I guess

[lament shoal]

In the second salamamders novel a commissar was riding with a guard tank unit but idk if that counts for what you're looking for

[storm jungle]

ah well close enough

[lament shoal]

He gets beheaded by a dark eldar almost immediately btw

[vagrant fox]

This thing is genuinely haunting me

anyways someone should look up if russian or chinese commissars are closer to the 40k version

[winter pine]

I think they were explicitly based around the Soviet era ones

[lament shoal]

I think russian

[arctic talon]

Do we count Yarrick’s fortress of arrogance lol

[storm jungle]

thats a Baneblade GET OUT

[arctic talon]

You could have a baneblade tank commander smh

[sacred bluff]

https://x.com/SanguinisI/status/2027515857291674091?s=20

Sanguinis itinera (@SanguinisI)

“He lets go of the spear. It’s the only thing that Abaddon will not expect him to do. No Custodian ever relinquishes his weapon, especially one so potent. He lets go of the spear before Abaddon has realised what he’s done and drives his fist into Abaddon’s face.”

Art Alex Cristi

X · Feb 27, 2026, 10:47 PM

did this happen

[winter pine]

love the looney tunes expression on Abaddon getting clocked right in the jaw lmao

[storm jungle]

End and the Deaf Vol3 yea

[sacred bluff]

i somehow forgot

was this when he was going up against all those terminators

[storm jungle]

Yes, and as ever the artwork overexaggerates it

Abaddon was literally reeling right back to shank Valdor

[rocky gale]

He see's the future and that Abbadon is going to become the Despoiler and punches him

[storm jungle]

Do you guys get it

because in 40k hes Abaddon the Despoiler™

this is called shadowing

god I hate Abnett lol

[lament shoal]

Abaddon the pants soiler

[sacred bluff]

NO YOU DON'T

[storm jungle]

I do

Sloppa

[sacred bluff]

[storm jungle]

[lament shoal]

Who was the custodes that emps stabbed with horus' sword in order to keep it from abaddon or something?

[storm jungle]

Ra Endymion

[rocky gale]

Steve

[storm jungle]

Die

[rocky gale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/raising-my-eyebrows-steve

[lament shoal]

Ty. I'm guessing he's dead now, since Abaddon currently has the sword, right?

[storm jungle]

Probably. We got no idea wha thappened to him

because Drachnyancat's thing is like

gets impaled into Ra

ends up in some Inquisition fortress

Abaddon invades it and takes it

[rocky gale]

Ra Endymion actually became Abbadon

[lament shoal]

Gotcha

[rocky gale]

Plot Twist from End and the Death 4: End Harder

[lament shoal]

Why couldn't emps have just handed it to him or something 😭

[storm jungle]

because hes an awful person

lmao

[lament shoal]

I mean true lol but thats like totally counterproductive

Ig he was trying to aura farm

The HH series didn't have the best writing either

[sacred bluff]

is valdor the actual yellow king 🥺

will we get pandemonium soon 🥺

[vagrant fox]

Nahx2

[storm jungle]

I really wonder what is GW holdng it back for

i assume for the next edition maybe

[sacred bluff]

maybe they waiting on amazon show

[vagrant fox]

They're waiting for me to go through the series again and actually finish Bequin

[sacred bluff]

you should

best series

[vagrant fox]

Not for a long time

[sacred bluff]

of his inquisitor series, bequin best

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-gif-25175746

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-oguri-uma-musume-umamusume-squishy-gif-14372802265437813043

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-gif-6469339709570075941

[daring creek]

why cotton candy hair

whats the symbolism

[daring creek]

Whats this visual novel

[arctic talon]

Arknights, the games story is all in VN format aside from some cutscenes/still images

[sacred bluff]

it's giving sass

[arctic talon]

Truth nuke

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-icarley-icarly-freddyyeah-yeah-gif-19387991

[storm jungle]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/matikane-mati-kane-fuku-kitaru-matikanefukukitaru-uma-musume-fukukitaru-gif-3032163873174205517

[young pecan]

About half-way through Ravenor rn

Is neat

[jade holly]

What are all the main color schemes for the Votann Leagues?

[celest cedar]

cutthroat

[crisp heath]

worst possible choice of words

[rose thorn]

oh its calgar's powerfist

[languid meadow]

THE fist

[rose thorn]

thsi adn the mega man balster

[lament shoal]

Seer: "My beloved wants you to know that what happened to Cadia wasn't your fault."

Cutthroat: "I wish I could believe that."

[jade holly]

You have no idea how annoyed I am at the Ymyr Conglomerate not being blue and the Urani-Surtr Regulation not being red

[opaque coyote]

Something that I do wish was more explored is the categorical "guilt" Cadians have

Remember that Krieg basically became a militaristic planet due to having a Heresy damaging enough that their planet had* to be nuked.

(Had in terms of Imperium necessity which is different from actual necessity)

Imagine having your entire home planet, a planet well known in the first place for its soldiers

Be blown the fuck up by Traitor forces

[arctic talon]

why lol

[opaque coyote]

There must be some mandated guilt of sorts

Like "You must try harder so that we don't fail again"

[nocturne crest]

I got a silly question, but rather than refresh the rhino, what if they just change the model to look like the grav-rhinos from 30k.

[arctic talon]

No

[winter pine]

real and true ☝️

[rose thorn]

I’ve been playing marathon

It’s quite fun

[opaque coyote]

So fun fact

Apparently Roosevelt wanted to fight in WW1

He was denied primarily because they were afraid of the moral decline if he died

[winter pine]

Finally reading up on WW1 was some genuine grimdark shit

A bunch of countries trying as hard as they could to make weapons more and more lethal for an edge

[opaque coyote]

There's a reason why WW1 is generally characterized as

Absolutely miserable

With most media showing how there's not even a purpose to it

Because tbf most soldiers didn't even know what they were fighting for. Not that it was even anything substantial

They were just drafted and forced on

At least in WW2, there's the Nazi's, the Japanese, etc.

But there's nothing like that for WW1

It's why it's also harder to talk about because it's so fucked

[winter pine]

Big support to Obsidian for introducing me to this with the Dead Money Automatic Rifle

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the BAR was actually really advanced

Especially at the time

[winter pine]

https://youtu.be/hfmgGqgtVYw

[opaque coyote]

The funny thing is that America in WW1 and WW2 didn't actually prepare much?

[winter pine]

From WW1 all the way to early Vietnam

[opaque coyote]

They basically made shit up as it went

[arctic talon]

They didn’t prepare for WW1 at all

But they were doing RND before they joined in WW2

And also they reused some stuff from WW1 in WW2

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but even then it was just kinda there

[arctic talon]

Thompson smg moment

lol

[opaque coyote]

Most of America's gear in WW2 was basically WW1 stuff

And although the BAR is great

Uhhh

[arctic talon]

At first yeah

[opaque coyote]

It's not as great as an LMG

[arctic talon]

But that changed pretty fast

lol

[winter pine]

It's kind of nuts that we basically reached peak lethality for guns in the 1960s

Just small improvements since then

[opaque coyote]

It's primarily what made the Axis powers so afraid of America

[arctic talon]

M1 Garand 💀

What a nightmare for the average soldier in the axis to encounter

[opaque coyote]

I mean until we get Orks and Tyranids we don't need it to be more lethal necessarily

[arctic talon]

Actual mass produced semi automatic rifle

lol

[arctic talon]

Something something logistics something

[jade holly]

Cause I know Ymir and Surtr from Norse mythology and they’re usually blue and red respectively in some depictions lmao

[arctic talon]

Go my 1 million M3 grease guns

[opaque coyote]

Shoot somebody in the head and at the VERY best

[arctic talon]

My stupid chud grease gun

[opaque coyote]

They got brain damage for life

[arctic talon]

How I love you

It looks so dumb

[opaque coyote]

But normally they're just dead

[opaque coyote]

Tube with bullets basically

[arctic talon]

Good aesthetic for a gun tbh

[opaque coyote]

Thompson was too expensive despite how fucking cool it also looks

[arctic talon]

Stupid chud smg

[arctic talon]

It was way too expensive for its intended role lol

[opaque coyote]

I like the Sten and how stupid it's sideways mag looks

[opaque coyote]

Which is basically

A tube with bullets

Don't need fancy things just shoot

[arctic talon]

Sten looks too normal

Lol

It’s weird

But not weird enough

[winter pine]

If I was a super kitbasher a Death Korp of Krieg guardsman with a BAR would super kino

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the German rifle, the Mauser, was outdated at the time.

But that's because the average squad was carried by the MG42. Which was basically a masterpiece in how deadly it was

[arctic talon]

Tbf

that things an HMG

Need to set it up

💀

[opaque coyote]

But yeah the Axis Weapons are interesting.

Japanese weapons were actually pretty good.

It's just that most soldiers encountered the Japanese while they were uhh

Running out of resources

So every gun kinda looked like shit

[arctic talon]

Tbf they were shit by the end of the war

Japan was literally running out of everything

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

Also Italy

...

Poor Italy

Well specifically poor Italian soldiers

Imagine having to be forced to use this fucking thing in 1943

💀

[winter pine]

Total cultural victory for the USA that the gas station Mussolini's limp corpse swung from is a Mickey Ds now

[arctic talon]

Mussolini was extremely popular

Until he wasn’t

Then he got strung up like every facist dictator should be

[opaque coyote]

Praying that would happen to a certain someone...

Anyways

[opaque coyote]

Mussolini was a fucking brainlet in general

[winter pine]

Give it until November when the Dems sweep like a reverse 2010

Won't say anymore but I think it's locked in

[opaque coyote]

He saw a country which mainly handmade their stuff

Barely any active industry (in comparison to countries like the USA or even Germany)

And decided

"Yeah I'll drag this country to war!"

[celest cedar]

three nazis walk into a bar

[opaque coyote]

They still used these fucking things as ammo for the Carcano.

Round nose Bullets, specifically the 6.5 x 52 mm Carcano for the Carcano 1891 Rifle.

These were outdated... even during WW1.

Also the rifle and bullet used to kill JFK

[celest cedar]

pretty sure even then they were outmached by sheer American firepower alone

[arctic talon]

The Japanese's equipment was fine early on

in the pacific theater

but they never advanced technologically

hell their equipment was good

early on lol

they just never put anything they learned into practice and resource shortages obliterated them in the end

[opaque coyote]

It was actually considered pretty good.

The Arisaka Rifle (HOLY SHIT CYBERPU-)

Was generally considered high quality

[celest cedar]

hundreds of Arisaka rifles vs a firing position filled with M1 garands, BARs

[opaque coyote]

But also like

The Japanese knew they were fucked when Pearl Harbor failed to do any substantial losses

[celest cedar]

and because of Japanese combat mindset that allows for tactics like the banzai charges

[opaque coyote]

And even then Pearl Harbor was a plan made while huffing copium at best

[arctic talon]

Japan's military doctrine sucked

in WW2

compared to literally every other major power involved

[celest cedar]

what having a death cult for a military be like

[celest cedar]

they were hoping that launching a surprise attack at Pearl Harbor would have the butterfly effect of the US being demoralized afterwards that they wont ever enter the war

[opaque coyote]

Yeah like I said

Plan huffing copium

Since their choices were

A) Give into US demands and leave China.

The High Command never even considered this because it would've been considered a surrender/defeat.

B) Invade Soviet Russia and help Germany.

...LMAO no.

C) Hopefully disable the USA so that they could take the colonies that the USA owned

[arctic talon]

Well they got some of the US colonies lol

[opaque coyote]

And like you said, the Japanese thought the USA wouldn't have the stomach to continue.

But even then, all of the Japanese command basically knew that Pearl harbor had to go perfectly because a long war with the USA basically meant certain defeat

So

Of course it failed

Although tbf even if it succeeded... It still wouldn't have worked

[celest cedar]

hopium levels off the charts. They wouldnt have been able to hold any of the territories throughout Asia anyways.

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/intherosewoods/status/2027578111206850813?s=20 some requiem stuff but damn lmao

wilma ⚢ (@intherosewoods)

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[lament shoal]

Fuck I forgot that game released the other day

I gotta avoid spoilers

[surreal nest]

Im thinking about getting it but ive only played 4 and 5 and a tiny bit of 2

Been thinking about running thru 2,3,4,7,8

[celest cedar]

https://youtu.be/DljH2f2mOx8 this Japan talk got me watching the retelling of Midway again..

[vagrant fox]

Don't hate the grease

[celest willow]

Sooooooo how was your day

I was wrong

I underestimated stupidity

[vagrant fox]

lmbo

[crystal forum]

at least this one doesn't have a massive mommy that takes up 90% of the discussion

[crystal forum]

you can play 7 first if you want since it has no actual chronological importance to the series. plus it's my favorite game of the series so i really recommend it

[lament shoal]

You only need to know the lore of 2 and 3 for it apparently

[hollow lantern]

9 defo seems to benefit from playing at least 2

[raven stone]

I literally woke up to the news of US and Israel attacking Iran

[surreal nest]

Oh no I know, I just wanna play em

[raven stone]

Well shit has hit the fan

[surreal nest]

I got 8 in humble bundle, I wish 7 was on sale rn

I dont wanna play 8 before 7

[hollow lantern]

7>>>>>>>8 imo

[crystal forum]

7 is probably the most competently and well written resident evil, but 4 is close

they just feel so different

4 is way more action focused

[surreal nest]

Im thinking of buying 9 just so I dont get it spoiled for me ngl

Ive gotten a few already and they made me frown

[crystal forum]

i was pretty disappointed by 8

but it's not bad

[surreal nest]

Why?

[crystal forum]

it's good even

[lament shoal]

7 was so peak

[crystal forum]

the ending is a disaster

it goes off the rails

[surreal nest]

No words!

[hollow lantern]

I dislike 8 cause it makes me want to play 4

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-indian-calling-shush-sigma-gif-7007349712143037869

[hollow lantern]

Its like a watered down re4 ime

[crystal forum]

hey i didnt say any words

[surreal nest]

I still gotta beat the re4 remake

[crystal forum]

8 also just has the dumbest chris redfield

like what a fucking moron

[hollow lantern]

I wish 8 had a better inventory/weapon management too

[crystal forum]

i mostly just used the BFR lol

the revolver that uses rifle ammo

straight up busted DLC weapon

fully upgraded it one shots some bosses

[hollow lantern]

Mini Magnum

[surreal nest]

We think 9 will get a mercenaries mode right

[crystal forum]

the normal revolver isn't even as powerful

[hollow lantern]

idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crystal forum]

and its ammo is too rare

[hollow lantern]

Most re games don't have a mercs mode

[crystal forum]

i played hardest difficulty just blasting away enemies with the BFR it was peak

my fav gun irl too

[hollow lantern]

I used it over most actual rifles tbh

[surreal nest]

I cant think of one that doesnt tbh

Well I know 7 doesnt but it has a score arena mode

[hollow lantern]

I think what

[crystal forum]

it's so powerful it staggers lady dimescru lol

[hollow lantern]

4, 5, 6, 8 have it?

[surreal nest]

2 remake does as well

[crystal forum]

7 has some pretty unique minigames instead

to say the least

[surreal nest]

Wait i lied

Re2r doesnt but it has hunk for some reason

[crystal forum]

one of them has you literally punching zombies to death

[hollow lantern]

4th Survivor was always there

[surreal nest]

I saw the blackjack one

Lowk wanna play it

[crystal forum]

re2 remake has those mini stories and yeah hunk is in one

[hollow lantern]

Joe Baker my goat

[crystal forum]

did you do all the achievements for it

[hollow lantern]

HUNK was in OG RE2 as well

[surreal nest]

Loved playing as Wesker in re5 mercenaries

[crystal forum]

i unlocked the double power gauntlets lol

[hollow lantern]

Nah, I was gonna achievement hunt in it but I don't have the time rn

I'll be lucky if I beat 9 in the next week

[crystal forum]

res 7 is one of the few games i have actually 100%

[surreal nest]

So do we think i should play re2r re4r or buy re7 and play that when I get home

[crystal forum]

you can check my steam for proof

im proud of that shit

[surreal nest]

I need the council

[crystal forum]

took me years

21 is a bullshit minigame

[hollow lantern]

Re7 or 4 are easier to get into

[surreal nest]

Yeah 2 is crazy

I gave up on 0 I got too scared

[crystal forum]

i say just play 7 man

it's peak

[hollow lantern]

7 is also the most standalone re outside 1

[surreal nest]

I legit didnt know 7 had actual gameplay I thought it was like outlast trials with hiding and some shit lol

I just found out today that it had shit outside of the baker family as threats

[hollow lantern]

Thats because they're kinda boring

The enemies

[surreal nest]

Makes sense

[crystal forum]

the shroom guys arent the coolest enemies of the series yeah

[hollow lantern]

The Bakers have a lot of personality going for em

[surreal nest]

Did you guys ever play operation raccoon city

[hollow lantern]

I think it is balanced out by the Bakers tho tbh

[hollow lantern]

Yes.

You shouldn't.

[surreal nest]

That game was my sweetheart

Straight lovers

[hollow lantern]

That game feels genuinely awful imo

[crystal forum]

im just thinking about how much more i enjoyed shooting regular ass t virus zombies

resident evil 2 zombies are pretty scary

you waste so much ammo for them

[hollow lantern]

Re2 reinforces the "yeah just ignore them" meta

[surreal nest]

I could never hate operation raccoon city i remember playing that and Lost Planet 2 on repeat

[hollow lantern]

ORC doesn't have gun feel

Bothers me

[crystal forum]

3 is so forgetable

legit i cant remember anything about it except nemesis

[hollow lantern]

Remake 3? Yeah

Og 3? No

[surreal nest]

I heard the remake is barely clocking in at 5 hours

[crystal forum]

remake 3 feels like a DLC for 2

i never played og 2 and 3

[hollow lantern]

Og 3 is a really peak game

[surreal nest]

I cant do the fixed cameras

[hollow lantern]

Nemesis is a lot cooler in it

I like fixed camera horror tbh

But i played silent hill real young

[crystal forum]

you'd hate 0 then

[surreal nest]

I think its a really fun thing to play with its just genuinely too scary for me

[surreal nest]

I did

Or was it 1

It was 1

[crystal forum]

0 is the remake of the original

[surreal nest]

Oh

Well both then

Played 1 when I was a kid cried when I played it as an adult with 0

[crystal forum]

wait no nvm prequel

https://store.steampowered.com/app/339340/Resident_Evil_0/

Steam

Resident Evil 0

Be prepared to relive the first nightmare in Resident Evil 0, a remastered version of the popular prequel to the original Resident Evil game. This remastered version takes the fear-inducing atmosphere from the original 2002 release and transforms it with stunning new HD visuals, improved sound, widescreen support and an optional modernized contro…

Price

$19.99

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i thought it was a remake tbh

[surreal nest]

Im being GASLIT

I figured it wasn't but im so naive and innocent and foolish...

[crystal forum]

it's pretty harsh

with the camera angles

i dont like it much either

[hollow lantern]

Re1 is just hard, a lot of people aren't used to ink ribbon saves

[surreal nest]

I was streaming re1 on Xbox for like 16 people and I started panicking in the statue puzzle room ran to an ink room and quit out

Fond memory

Looking away whenever the door animation played

[crystal forum]

i should replay 6 to remember how bad the series can be

[shadow plover]

6 was the first one I played

I've not played others

[crystal forum]

it's honestly not a completely bad game

[hollow lantern]

Tbh

[shadow plover]

it is very fucking bad

[hollow lantern]

I have a soft spot for Jake and Sherry campaign

[shadow plover]

but it had coop so we could laugh at it together

[crystal forum]

i liked some of it

the story is hard to follow

also it has the best assault rifle in the series

the one with the bayonet

you can stab zombies

i remember loving that thing as a kid

i was born a guardsman

[surreal nest]

How must play are the re7 dlcs

[crystal forum]

uuuh they're fine

[opaque coyote]

So

[hollow lantern]

They're very worth it imo

Joe Baker dlc fun

[crystal forum]

one of them is just action hero gunplay

[hollow lantern]

The mini games are fun

[opaque coyote]

What did we learn?

[hollow lantern]

If you like 7 Ethan Must Die is cool

[opaque coyote]

Never underestimate the stupidity of Donald

[crystal forum]

ethan must die is not for the faint of heart

[opaque coyote]

They're pretty good ngl

[crystal forum]

a fucking roguelike in resident evil

[hollow lantern]

If you end up really liking 7 tho it's great replay value ime

[opaque coyote]

There's a free one where you play as Chris Redfield

And that one's fun if a bit short

[hollow lantern]

Id defo say play Not A Hero

[surreal nest]

Greenman gaming has the gold edition for 8 dollars 🗣️

[crystal forum]

insanely difficult on max difficulty btw

[opaque coyote]

And there's also the one where you play as the average Louisiana man

Genuinely the most fun one for me

[crystal forum]

YOU CAN EAT CRAWDADS AND BUGS

[opaque coyote]

Sometimes all you need is to PUNCH a motherfucker

[crystal forum]

and it heals you

[surreal nest]

I will buy and play re7 when I get home from work

[opaque coyote]

Well I guess all those bugs in Marguerite kinda makes sense now

Jokes aside, genuinely, I think I appreciate what it tried to do

[crystal forum]

eating her food kills you in the hide and seek minigame lol

[opaque coyote]

I think my favorite mechanic in the Joe Baker DLC is being able to craft spears

[crystal forum]

you get to kill crocodiles

[opaque coyote]

Zombie crocodiles

There's mold in em

[crystal forum]

max difficulty joe baker plus the timer challenges is

an experience

[hollow lantern]

Tbh 7 had a lot of good side content

[opaque coyote]

But seriously though. I think maybe they should try making a full Resident Evil game where you go all medieval

Joe Baker DLC proves it can work

[surreal nest]

Evil dead vibes

[opaque coyote]

And it's genuinely satisfying to PUNCH somebody

[surreal nest]

I mean from some of the re9 gameplay ive seen Leon is fucking feral

[opaque coyote]

Tbf RE7 is basically Evil Dead

[hollow lantern]

That's primarily re9

[opaque coyote]

Jack even says "Groovy" when he picks up a chain saw

[crystal forum]

i think the series unironically is at its worse when scifi is involved so i agree

[hollow lantern]

Re7 has a lot of appreciation for classic horror

[opaque coyote]

Also think the same for Zombie movies in general

[surreal nest]

I gotta play re7 it sounds so goated

[opaque coyote]

Like things like Plate Armor would definitely be the best against Zombies

[surreal nest]

Can't believe I never have

[crystal forum]

it doesnt even give out the whole plot until the very last reveal

[opaque coyote]

It truly is

[crystal forum]

it's all very well paced

[surreal nest]

Plate armor would suck

Too hot

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it would depend on the environment but like

[surreal nest]

I heard denim is crazy good

[opaque coyote]

The fuck is a zombie gonna do against steel and chain mail

Fuck all

And plate armor is more agile than you think

[storm jungle]

Tbh thats always been a resident evil tradition

you ALWAYS come across some random ass lab with lore dump documents

[surreal nest]

Hold you down

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

8

[storm jungle]

Yes. Always been a thing.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but that generally goes for everything else

[storm jungle]

Going as far as RE1 and 2 lol

[crystal forum]

nah

[storm jungle]

yah

quiet down bitch

[crystal forum]

8 you can guess the plot during the first 15 minutes

[surreal nest]

Well plate you are less mobile

Easier to get tired

[storm jungle]

who tf is talking about guessing the plot

[opaque coyote]

Still fucking remember RE1 where you find the picture of Wesker

[crystal forum]

me

[storm jungle]

im not

explode

[opaque coyote]

And he's still wearing the SUNGLASSES

[storm jungle]

Its SO funny. At this point its literally a tradition

[crystal forum]

owo

[opaque coyote]

INSIDE THE FUCKING SECRET LAB

[storm jungle]

tbh Wesker has always been an edgelord

mfer is an Agent from the Matrix

im 99% sure thats literally the inspiration for his powers lol

[crystal forum]

we love dickhead edgy wesker

[opaque coyote]

Wesker is the campiest mf ever and I wouldn't have it any other way

[hollow lantern]

Entry 1 "Today we have prodded the bioweapon with cattle prods until it was screaming in a cage, then we hosed it down like a prisoner of war and fed it dog kibble"
Entry 2 "the bioweapon has escaped and is hunting us"

[crystal forum]

resident evil is very cliché sometimes and that works for it

[opaque coyote]

Every scifi horror game be like

[crystal forum]

4 has so much action movie stuff

[storm jungle]

EVERY time

[storm jungle]

RE also has always been cheesy goofy shit

[surreal nest]

Love how most resident evil plot is "man we fucked up pretty bad"

[hollow lantern]

Re having cheesy and goofy stuff serves it really well imo

[storm jungle]

Yeah because if they play the games too seriously it legit becomes bad

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-leon-kennedy-backflip-useless-backflip-unnecessary-backflip-gif-7713278107720559726

[crystal forum]

"i shall now inject this barely tested experimental virus derived from a brain parasite into myself so i can live longer"

[storm jungle]

its better when the characters acknowledge this shit is silly as shit

[surreal nest]

I saw someone say that RE4R is bad because its unrealistic, and they complained that parrying bullets ruined the immersion

[opaque coyote]

I still find the original RE1 cutscenes absolutely peak.

Worst and Best part is that the actors look exactly like the characters. But their actual acting is so dogshit it's hilarious

[surreal nest]

Dude doesnt play resident evil!

[storm jungle]

If they say "this RE game is unrealistic" they havent been paying attention since RE1

THERES A FUCKING ZOMBIE SHARK UNDER THE MANOR

[crystal forum]

4 also has a very fuckable spanish man

[hollow lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-s-kennedy-leon-kennedy-looking-surprised-joao-games-gif-1423733369046319277

[crystal forum]

and that's a win for me

[hollow lantern]

OG re4 dialogue was great

[storm jungle]

Also completely unrelated

[crystal forum]

cohelo cohelo cohelo

[opaque coyote]

Yes

[surreal nest]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Great

[hollow lantern]

Believe so

[storm jungle]

of course they are

[surreal nest]

Which is why I gotta play resident evil before I die

[hollow lantern]

Haven't had coffee so I don't wanna give myself a headache looking at it yet

[storm jungle]

same

just wante dto be sure

[opaque coyote]

Born too late to attack the middle east

Born too early to attack the middle east

Born just in time to attack the middle east

[storm jungle]

shut up

[crystal forum]

more people in the world dying needlessly

because we didn't have enough of that already

[opaque coyote]

Clearly we needed more misery in our lives. Everything was just too happy and accepting

[surreal nest]

So are most resident evil games pretty much standalone stories with sparse connection

[hollow lantern]

Uhhhhh

[crystal forum]

4 -> 5 -> 6 is when the games tried following eachother

[storm jungle]

They are standalone with SOME callbacks

[surreal nest]

I dont remember most about 2 but I dont know how leon became pretty much secret service in 4

[storm jungle]

you can watch a lore vid and be basically caught up

[opaque coyote]

The first trilogy is fairly connected.

But I would say after that, it can be treated as standalone somewhat.

[hollow lantern]

I think you benefit from playing the prior games sometimes but you don't have to

[crystal forum]

the games usually explain everything to you, well everything important to know

[hollow lantern]

Like playing 9 with the benefit of having played 2 and 4 is neat. I don't think you'd need to play 6.

[opaque coyote]

RE7 is completely disconnected from the wider story with the only exception of the Not a Hero DLC

[surreal nest]

I hate it when companies release good games i hate deciding if I wanna drop 70 for a new game

[languid meadow]

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Why did I wake up to bullshit

[opaque coyote]

I want to get RE9 but like

[hollow lantern]

Because you didn't wake up early enough or stay up late enough

[opaque coyote]

I ain't got time for that rn

[surreal nest]

I have too many games

[crystal forum]

who gives a shit about resident evil revelations btw

[opaque coyote]

Same

[surreal nest]

I just bought like 15 wii games

[surreal nest]

Those games were weird

[hollow lantern]

Define gives a shit

[surreal nest]

I hated their format

[crystal forum]

cares about them

i find them weird

[hollow lantern]

I haven't played them since I was a teen tbh

[crystal forum]

why is revelations worse than 4 in combat when it came after

it feels more primitive

[languid meadow]

Shit I want a new operation raccoon city

[crystal forum]

those animated re movies were goated btw

[surreal nest]

Me too pal

[opaque coyote]

They were mid

[crystal forum]

they did have kinky enemy

[languid meadow]

The operation to bomb the middle East is called fucking epic fury

Reddit government

[opaque coyote]

Every resident evil game has one tbf

[opaque coyote]

Are you fucking serious rn

...yeah I'm going to bed

[languid meadow]

I am I just came across THE OFFICIAL TWITTER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE

[opaque coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786208719200583710/1458483379686080532/wawawawawawawawawawawawawawa_bnuy.gif

[languid meadow]

https://twitter.com/DeptofWar/status/2027662002219302929

Department of War 🇺🇸 (@DeptofWar)

OPERATION EPIC FURY 🇺🇸

X · Feb 28, 2026, 8:27 AM

[shadow plover]

no way

[languid meadow]

😭so fuckin cringe

[shadow plover]

the fucking department of cringe

[crystal forum]

https://preview.redd.it/rachael-foley-is-my-favorite-resident-evil-revelations-v0-c33jciiq2yle1.jpg?width=386&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4fe152aee5a8bf2b879fdcc316feb532ca006674

look at dis bich

[storm jungle]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

LMAO

[opaque coyote]

No author of a dystopia could've ever pulled this shit off

[crystal forum]

epic furry

[storm jungle]

helldiver devs cook better names than this

VALID PRETEXT

[hollow lantern]

Real life is often stranger than fiction

[opaque coyote]

Before I fully sleep

I will just post this

[crystal forum]

who knew renaming the department to war would mean they would go to more wars

[opaque coyote]

"In order to get elected BarackObama will start a war with Iran" - Trump, Nov 29, 2011

"BarackObama will attack Iran to get re-elected." - Trump, Jan 17, 2012

"Now that Obama's poll numbers are in tailspin - watch for him to launch a strike on Libya or Iran. He is desperate." - Trump, Oct 9, 2012

"I predict that President Obama will at some point start a war with Iran in order to save face!" - Trump, Sept 16, 2013

"Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly - not skilled!" - Trump, Nov 11, 2013

Okay gn

[hollow lantern]

There are more of these tbh

[crystal forum]

guy renamed the fucking department to not be a euphemism anymore

[hollow lantern]

He said it about Biden too at some point iirc

[storm jungle]

Im watching r/combatfootage rn

rn it just seems to be missile and airstrikes

so prob gonna be like that for a bit

[crystal forum]

the whole middle east will be treated like palestine

[storm jungle]

"treated"

Always was lol

[hollow lantern]

I don't think you'll see boots on the ground tbh

[storm jungle]

Yeah Iran has like literally nothing

they're gonna bomb the shit out of em and call it a day

[crystal forum]

can't wait for saudi arabia and israel to finally go to war and make america nuke itself i guess

competing interests

[languid meadow]

I know some insane fringe politician in Israel wants "greater Israel" which is like

Super super super old borders

[hollow lantern]

Well

[crystal forum]

bro they literally say from the river to the sea

[hollow lantern]

https://youtu.be/s8hEtI9AI0U?si=8L96xtJdmHNZU6fQ

[crystal forum]

they want it ALL

[hollow lantern]

Song is topical again ig

[storm jungle]

Also Iranians cheering for "liberation" when whatever is gonna come is gonna be even worse than the Ayatollah lol

some things never change i guess kek

[crystal forum]

we're still in the 60's

i hope i see the US fall before i die

at least one good thing to happen

china please nuke washington 🙏

[urban spire]

transition goals

[hollow lantern]

I think nuclear war would cause the fall of many more countries than just America

[crystal forum]

fucked up

[crystal forum]

that works for me

[hollow lantern]

If you say so man

[storm jungle]

I watched a vid of some outskirts guy recording 21 missles flying over his house

holy fuck lmao

[urban spire]

breaking the generational trauma by having the war in iran instead of iraq

[storm jungle]

Literally the same thing to these people

makes no difference lol

[hollow lantern]

Ill be honest I don't even think it'll displace the ayatollah

I genuinely think it's to force a negotiation for a nuclear deal(the kind Trump backed out of in his last presidency)

Trumps track record for this kinda thing has been like

Remember Houthis?

Bombing campaign for a week or two

"Hey guys we won let's go home"

[crystal forum]

scary foreigners must not own nuclear power. only we strong chads can do that

[urban spire]

isn't the iranian nuclear weapons thing just the chemical weapons in iraq thing again

[crystal forum]

it's not weapons

they're trying to make their own nuclear energy

[hollow lantern]

Iran has been a week away from weapons grade uranium enrichment since I was a child according to my government

[crystal forum]

synthesize their own enriched uranium

[urban spire]

yeah that sounds right

[languid meadow]

Listen I don't want to be that guy but chemical weapons are WMDs it's just Iraq didn't really have them by the time the us invaded iirc, they used it all on Iran beforehand

[crystal forum]

they were actually getting close though

[storm jungle]

Yeah its when they toppled the guy before the Shah of Iran, then installed him, and the regime instantly started torturing people

[crystal forum]

anybody can make mustard gas and that's pretty much what iraq had

fucking america has chemical weapons

STILL

[hollow lantern]

Bad people installing bad people who are more open to the original bad peoples whims is kinda the american mo

[urban spire]

america used chemical weapons CONSTANTLY in iraq

[hollow lantern]

They don't care how fucked up you are if you'll play ball

[languid meadow]

All of the entente I think still have theirs since it's really fucking hard to get rid of without using them

[urban spire]

"no bro we just use WP for smonk" launches it directly into the mouth of a 5 year old child

[crystal forum]

it absolutely isn't a waste issue

they keep them ready and armed

[languid meadow]

Well duh

[urban spire]

like yeah WP makes smoke, it also burns you to death, and if it doesn't burn you to death it poisons you