40k-lore-chat

[last stone]

Isn't it weird how they went from DoW 1, DoW 2 straigh to DoW 4

[celest dome]

I'll be honest, the energy spent on denying DoW3 is just dumb

[last stone]

Oh for sure, but it was a weird follow up gameplay wise

[storm jungle]

Yes. They're guardsman too last time i checked.

[celest dome]

So was DoW1 to 2 🤷

Or VT1 to 2 (and in lesser amount DT)

[last stone]

For sure

But change always causes resistance

[wary fulcrum]

It’s not

[celest dome]

Remaining unchanging is how you have IP that were dying (TW), or IP thst just release the same things year after year

[storm jungle]

The thing is people can resist change

But it will always happen

for better or worse

https://klipy.com/gifs/gato-usando-oculos-olhando

[queen laurel]

It's the thing of dawn of War One commits to what they want and dawn of War 2 commits to what they want both of the games are good

[plush mason]

not always as all change requires someone or very rarely something to start it, but the odds of it not happening are insanely low

[queen laurel]

dawn of war 3 is like the weird middle child that is a mixture of both

It has heroes that are overly powerful

well dawn of war they only have really overpowered heroes supported by units

The inverse is the one for dawn of war 1 much more base building and army matters more and the heroes while powerful are not that much of A game breaker

[vagrant fox]

It's a moba and that's why it's bad hashtag truth

[plush mason]

cant argue with that logic

[storm jungle]

Not actually true, change will always happen.

[celest dome]

Me toward UI changes in most websites.
It's just enshitiffication

[storm jungle]

Its how we move with life

If it isnt by humans its by outside forces like nature etc

[plush mason]

all change is catalytic

and there are many many people that will never change

largely because they refuse too

[queen laurel]

just like my favorite alien dinosaur said

"Essence is change. Change is survival. Collect and live. Stay still and die"

• Dehaka

[storm jungle]

Even if they dont the world moves without them

[celest dome]

Even those that "don't change do change"
Rarely in a good way though

[queen laurel]

yes a new warhammer fan going from new to the setting to a aos hater

[plush mason]

could be worse, could have become a primaris hater

[celest dome]

Nah

AoS hater are worse

[queen laurel]

yes

a good chunk of them tend to be bandwagon riders

[celest dome]

And never actually were there when Fantasy died

[queen laurel]

that don't have the context and just hate for no reason

[storm jungle]

the thing is Primaris got valid points to hate lol

[queen laurel]

yep

[storm jungle]

as long as you dont make a huge toxic deal out of it

[queen laurel]

that too

[plush mason]

worse than the most annoying kind of space marine fan? wow how does anyone tolerate them?

[queen laurel]

like aos I would agree 1st edition was bad and the end times was painful but most of their hate is just now being mad at that time point and nothing else

[fervent geode]

I love Seraphon

[queen laurel]

Like by second edition to 3rd edition to now they have fixed their stuff

[vagrant fox]

I'm allowed to be a hater I financially supported whfb

[fervent geode]

Idk i just heard aos

[vagrant fox]

New thing bad old thing good

[plush mason]

thats honestly the common denominator of the primaris haters afaik

just stuck in the past

[queen laurel]

yeah but like dils said

there are very good points to hate on a primaris as long as you're not a cunt

aos now largely is a genuinely great setting

[vagrant fox]

My issue isn't really with the primaris besides some nitpicks it's the introduction sucked so bad

But that's a gw standard

[celest dome]

Primaris hater aren't the most annoying type of SM fans, that would be the Black Templars

[plush mason]

yeah i dont count them as true fans because most of them are just using the faction as a mask for being actual neo nazis

they have the same problem the DKOK fans have, the deep end of the fandom is nothing but irl neo nazis

[fervent geode]

You can have problems with primaris esp the intro but still bitching on and on even as we enter 11e is js sad

[storm jungle]

Yeah I simply dislike them thats it

I wont rant on and on unless its in private with like friends or whatever

raining on the parade of other people that like them is very childish

[plush mason]

exactly

[storm jungle]

Meanwhile 40k fandom when they see a black person:

https://klipy.com/gifs/peacemaker-running

truly our causes are intermixed

[plush mason]

or a women that isnt some slut with barely any cloths on

[storm jungle]

REAL.

[vagrant fox]

I will always complain about the greeblie pootubes on the gravis armour but I'll restrain myself otherwise

[plush mason]

good because i will not tolerate gravus armor slander

[fervent geode]

Always been a Corvus person, never liked Phobos, but I don't mind the rest

[plush mason]

is phobos the light armor?

[fervent geode]

Yrah

[vagrant fox]

I started out as a mk4 truther but now I'm a mk7 hardliner

[fervent geode]

And Omnis i think, but that might be the jump one

[plush mason]

yeah i can shit talk phobos all day

[fervent geode]

Started as a Mark VI Beakie, still a Beakie

[vagrant fox]

I don't know what it is I've never quite liked the beakie

Well just the helmet the rest is peak

[storm jungle]

wdym helmet

it literally uses the default marine helm

it just has a beak

[vagrant fox]

Yea it's uncool #truth

[storm jungle]

Fucked up....

[plush mason]

i have always thought the pigface helmets look stupid and the Corvus helmets are clearly based off that so

[storm jungle]

yeah its based on the beaky medieval helms

[plush mason]

yeah the pigface

[vagrant fox]

I don't hate it, some variations are cool

[fervent geode]

Fair enough

Its a love or hate thing generally

I like it when they split the helm's colour with the beak's

[storm jungle]

word bearer ones are absolute peak

[fervent geode]

Ofc

Cant forget the kitty one too

[storm jungle]

[vagrant fox]

I'll give some of these a +2, I like mid right

[fervent geode]

Ill take what i can get

[dapper gyro]

I like Mk10 Phobos. Want to fight?

[plush mason]

nah not really, i understand the armor's role and respect it i just think it looks stupid

[dapper gyro]

I talk of the look.

[vagrant fox]

Honestly I do like phobos except for below the knee, it lacks a certain je ne sais quoi

[dapper gyro]

It looks like tucked in boots, which is what I like to do in the field.

[vagrant fox]

It's just not for me, cover up that midriff too and I'll really like it

On a very different note re9 seems very good

[rocky gale]

I wish they showed pictures of them side on, on the store

I can never tell if the heresy helms are going to be beaky or not

Because head on those could be really cool flat faced helmets or stupid ugly beakies and I'd never know

[fervent geode]

Heh

Tbf they are quite openly labelled

[dapper gyro]

Great game, good mix between nostalgia and continuation.

A lot better than RE8.

[solid horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-pill-yourself-lowtierhouse-lightning-gif-4514315121142211307

mk3 and beakie best helmets

[rocky gale]

Ah yes because all of the Horus Heresy helmets labellled as MKVI are all Beakies

[fervent geode]

Oh fuck

[rocky gale]

All Beakies right?

[fervent geode]

Whats this

Disgusting

This is why i hide in my WB hole

I cant even tell

[rocky gale]

Yea almost half of the helmets sold as MKVI aren't Beakies and you can't tell which ones are and aren't on the store because all the pictures are from head on

[storm jungle]

The absolute PUSH they made for beakies when the reboot launched was so funny too

like, what is happening here lol

[solid horizon]

iron warrior helmets coulve been so fire if they werend so spherical

[fervent geode]

Alright i agree ts shit stupud

Give a side view

[fervent geode]

RG cabal masterminding HH

[shadow plover]

Every mark has always had wildly different artificer helmets so it being MKVI doesn't automatically mean it has to have a peak, like a MKVII doesn't automatically have to have a snarling mouth grill. It's just the default look for the mark of the armour

[storm jungle]

Gay explanation.

Fire this man.

[shadow plover]

Sometimes gay is right...

[rocky gale]

Nobody is saying they all have to have the beaks, just give us a side view so we can tell which ones do and don't

[storm jungle]

Beakie profiling?

Now thats gotta be beakcist

[rocky gale]

I am openly beakcist

[shadow plover]

Most of them have a side profile or similar images on the store page

[rocky gale]

Untrue

Cherry picking

Strawman, other buzzwords

[shadow plover]

[rocky gale]

Post them all now

[shadow plover]

I'm on my phone, can't be asked

[rocky gale]

Then you concede

https://klipy.com/gifs/friends-good-game

[shadow plover]

I have the flu be kind

[rocky gale]

Me too

[shadow plover]

Havent been this sick in my adult life

[solid horizon]

inhale vallejo paint and tamyia cement fumes to get back on your feet

[shadow plover]

[rocky gale]

Wouldn't work for me, I breathe in so much sulphur trioxide that my lungs have grown immune to petty solvents

[vagrant fox]

I'm like that rat in The Abyss 1989 I don't need normal air

[rocky gale]

See the problem with that is if your're riding in a Rhino and your buddy hits the breaks suddenly you're just getting a face full of ice cream

[daring creek]

The machine god makes no errors

[fervent geode]

Blessing from the Gods obvi

[solid horizon]

man I love the tactical ice cream cone wargear

[crisp heath]

He got anime "oni-chan" eyes

https://tenor.com/view/sparkle-eyes-green-eyes-gif-9002010766450334733

[vagrant fox]

this is the undivided truth

[raven stone]

Needed screen shot for full context

[shadow plover]

The hell is this Angel's Tears hate

• a pretty odd selection of helmets, lots of very obscure ones but many more common ones are missing

[crisp heath]

Personally id move the blood angel helmet on C tier to B tier

[shadow plover]

that's the Angel's Tears one

or wait

are you speaking about the chaplain one

the middle one in C is Angel's Tears, also a BA helmet

[vagrant fox]

I couldn't be bothered doing more

from some random tier list

[shadow plover]

you chose a very blood angel heavy list

8/22 BA helmets

[crisp heath]

No screaming gold helm

[vagrant fox]

There's a lot of black templars too

[crisp heath]

This chud right here

[shadow plover]

ye, Angel's Tears

[crisp heath]

I don't remember the names for these custom chapter helmets

[vagrant fox]

I could've made my own but again cba

[shadow plover]

this is a very weird list of options

[crisp heath]

Ngl these options kinda suck

[vagrant fox]

Someone should make a proper list but it won't be me

[shadow plover]

half of these are just duplicates

[vagrant fox]

Yeah, custodes and some cultists too for some reason

[crisp heath]

Oh yeah i didnt even notice that

Theres just random cultist helmets on there

Man the concept of reiver marines is so cool unfortunately its locked behind primaris marines

[crisp heath]

[surreal nest]

potentially the worst tier list ever conceptualized

[crisp heath]

Ngl i kinda agree with the tier list

Aside from 2 positioning

The BT bucket helm and the angels tear helmet should be higher

But thats just me

[surreal nest]

yes that would be just you

burning alongside the tier list creator

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-goty-the-game-awards-the-game-awards-2025-diablo-gif-1352433554911783208

[solid horizon]

what about techmarine primaris helmet

oh lmao I didnt see the pic above

based and 2nd ed necronpilled

[crisp heath]

They look so cool until you remember they're just more neurotypical space marines who are into crypto

[tulip thistle]

is it canon that every campaign mission was done by the exact same strike team?

[urban spire]

don't believe there's any canon team

[rose thorn]

That fucks lol

[near wasp]

You know the dice are gonna be in her favor with the amount of love she put into that paint job

Would hate to face her in a match

[raven stone]

Drukhari Stans
I found your meme

[near wasp]

That's an insanely good arguement

[rose thorn]

Something something morality is determined by the culture something something unfair to apply our own cultural morals

[crisp heath]

So my warband is considered to be the good guys as well

[near wasp]

No

[crisp heath]

I just realized I'm not at all creative when it comes to naming stuff
Can't come up with titles, names for places, name for planets, name for unique battle roles

[fervent geode]

Ez solution

Rob Latin

Or what is ur warband?

Like what legion(s) or chapter(s)

[crisp heath]

Mfw I'm just dumb

[crisp heath]

I already have a name for the warband (Nokturne Cabal)
But I was trying to come up with titles for certain battle roles and hierarchy positions then I realized I can't even come up with good title and nickname for major characters

I lost all my creativity and whimsy :(

[fervent geode]

Ah i see

Uhh

Id just rob RL

[crisp heath]

I thought of doing that and maybe even some already existing stuff in 40k

[crisp heath]

Rl?

[fervent geode]

Ahh

[fervent geode]

Real life

Like just steal things

Depending on the warband

For my various WB ive stolen alot of mesopotamian (sumerian/akkadian/assyrian) and coptic

[humble shoal]

Hear me out

Call your warband

The Good Guys

[crisp heath]

Mine are Night Lords in origin

[raven stone]

So just look up Night Lord name generators.

For ranks or titles, you can just steal real life criminal organisation titles of various languages/origins (Cartel, Yakuza, Italian Mob, Chinese Triads etc), mess up the spelling a bit, and presto

Thematically fitting for Night Lords me thinks

[crisp heath]

Yeah I stole a name from a game to name the current leadership of the warband

"Unholy Trinity"

[raven stone]

That's the spirit!

[crisp heath]

The only title I thought up myself and thought was cool ended up being an actual pre-existing title for the chief apothecary for the Red Corsairs

[fervent geode]

maybe try hungarian or central european slavic names

[crisp heath]

I guess "Corpsemaker" isn't that original

[fervent geode]

ah

[crisp heath]

Yeah I might just do that
Also thought of just making up words that sound like Nostraman

[fervent geode]

that works

but more effort ofc

[crisp heath]

Since uh theres little to no info about Nostraman dialect aside from like 5 words

[crisp heath]

True...

[heady rivet]

Actors that played Dracula or Count Orlok

[heady rivet]

Birmingham

[humble shoal]

Perfect name for the band then

[heady rivet]

Tbf this is the same Legion that mocked each other for their edgy nicknames

[humble shoal]

Their home planet of Nice Planet

[crisp heath]

What

[crisp heath]

One of the major characters in the warband (that has already died) is named like Nosferrus

[heady rivet]

Xarl scowled. “What if we barter for the Blood Reaver’s dock crews to aid us? We trade for materials and labour, rather than dealing with the labour ourselves.”

“Blood Reaver…” Talos was watching the hololithic, his voice distracted by the pain in his temples. “A ridiculous title.”

Cyrion chuckled. “A damning statement, from a warrior called ‘Soul Hunter’.”

Talos covered his smile by scratching at his scarred cheek. “Continue, tech-adept.”

He paused, reflecting for a moment. ' "Order of the Jackal". "Khenetai". What amusing titles the other Legions use.'

A strange insult, Ulatal thought, from a man known as the Prince of Crows.

Sevatar's stare was sudden and bestial. Not aggressive, but undeniably animal. Something that might almost pass for a smile infected its way across those scarred lips, inch by inch.

He hears me. Ulatal felt an icy prickle along his spine. Emperor's blood, he can hear me.

But the Night Lord said nothing, did nothing, beyond gesturing for him to continue.

Two examples of Night Lords being like "Bro thats what you call yourself? lol"

[crisp heath]

Oh yeah I forgot about this interaction lmao

[crisp heath]

Wait is it a thing Sevatar can read minds or something

Oh wait

Nvm the guy said it out loud

Im dumb

[heady rivet]

He's a Psyker

[heady rivet]

No no, Sevatar said that stuff out loud abput the other Legions. Ulatal thinks "You sayin this with your cringe ass name?" and Sevatar shoots him a stare because he's a Psyker

[crisp heath]

I read it right the 1st time, then re-read it thinking read it wrong and then read it wrong in the 2nd time

I'm incredibly stupid

[crisp heath]

I forgot he's just like that

[rose thorn]

i ddi terrible on my presentation

[celest dome]

What was it on about ?

[rose thorn]

dxz4 deletion in inactive and active x chromosomes and its effects on superlooping and superdomains

[celest dome]

Genetics is such a nebulous subject for me

[rose thorn]

yeah, litearlly thi swas harder than my advanced geentics rpesentioatn

[outer wave]

What does the deletion do exactly?

Its on the X chromosome, so I assume it may affect women more so than men, but generally can affect both?

[jade holly]

The new RT trailer has me hyped and I don’t even play RT

All I can think of when i watched it was

“Alright ramblers let’s get rambling”
Evil Eye starts blaring

[crisp heath]

I already have the season pass

Excited to play it

[jade holly]

WE’RE FREEING CASTELLAN CREED WITH THIS ONE 🗣️ 🔥

[crisp heath]

ABELARD, INTRODUCE ME TO THIS NECRON FILTH 🗣️

[rose thorn]

Women have an active and inactive X chromosome.

My section was about how the geometry of the chromosome in inactive X chromosomes is face debt DXZ4

By comparing wild type, inactive phase, and active phase DXZ4

[outer wave]

Oh so this mutation has an inactive phase? Sounds virus-y

[rocky gale]

Put this fucker in a squad of 20 Hormagaunts

10" move, advance and charge, with 60 4+ attacks all with Sustained 1

Then 1 CP to give them Rapid Regeneration which is a 5+ feel no pain

[queen laurel]

ah yes my favorite tactic a giant angry horde of blenders

[rocky gale]

Just get 6 20 unit squads of Hormagaunts

A cool 120

[raven stone]

I know we are kind of in the “Krieg are overdone meme” territory but.

https://youtu.be/NgTncVa46Sc?si=ymQ07W0W4xY_ZWMx

[arctic talon]

Oh hey the guy has the old tyrant hyperadaptation

[cerulean trellis]

still awesome!

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/Xoq33mAQFlg?si=2jAYcfsWppxWHaAU @arctic talon

[arctic talon]

Finally

It’s been almost 6 years since they announced it

[rocky gale]

That's the Queen of Demacia right there

[storm jungle]

Gyattception?

[shadow plover]

hard

[storm jungle]

One of my fav older artworks

[fervent geode]

Goes extremely hard

[vagrant fox]

That's a classic

guy goes hard

[storm jungle]

You barely see this in modern 40k art sometimes anymore

where its just random freaks filling a canvas and not just clean pristine tabletop units

[cerulean trellis]

tbh the artwork was laways the best part of the codices

artwork and lore

[fervent geode]

Black Books...

[wintry cloud]

https://youtu.be/zlFe0nRFYiE?si=fPmf6mhLcpcDUVE6

im very happy that there are daemonettes here

And emperors children

I want more slaanesh in games

[rocky gale]

A relationship in two images

[storm jungle]

huh, never seen these

[rocky gale]

Yea uhhhh I'm wondering

When did Greyfax shoot Celestine?

[storm jungle]

I legit cant remember, guh

[rocky gale]

Also she's so pretty, damn

[wintry cloud]

I ship

[near wasp]

Maybe in our martyred lady?

Maybe in our martyred lady?

Thanks phone very cool

[rocky gale]

So unsure you had to say it twice

[near wasp]

I'm gonna stomp my phone to peices

[languid meadow]

I was searching it up then I found a post from the SoB reddit and this guy things it's from the audio drama (?)

[storm jungle]

I legit dont remember it

I DO remember the entire audiodrama has though Greyfucks going

"OMG I DONT LIKE HER, SHES A HERETIC! I DONT TRUST HER ommggg 💅 "

like just kiss her bitch, jesus

[languid meadow]

idk

very weird art to drop with no fucking context tho

released early? idk!

[opaque coyote]

Elzunix

[late verge]

Ik its to tie into the medieval aesthetic but I really dont like crossbows in sci fi lol

[opaque coyote]

I think the only one I like is

The Half Life 2 Crossbow

[late verge]

This art style is awesome ngl

[late verge]

Cause it actually makes sense

[storm jungle]

no

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[storm jungle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cabeza-head

[late verge]

Its a jury rigged thing that they made as an impromtu weapon

The imperium shouldnt need to do that

[late verge]

Ai slop </3

[opaque coyote]

I mean tbf it could stolen from a ganger

[storm jungle]

Didnt ask, shut up

[late verge]

Lh shit ping sorry

[opaque coyote]

But yeah

[late verge]

We got a slop poster over here

[late verge]

Its inquisitor greyfax I doubt it

[near wasp]

She wants to inspect every inch of the saint

[opaque coyote]

True.

Also it's attached to a bolter

[rocky gale]

It's a Condemnor Boltgun, it's a regular Boltgun but with that crossbow bit on the top which can fire blessed stakes for killing Psykers

[arctic talon]

its from the audio drama isn't it?

[late verge]

Why couldnt they just bless some bolter shells

[rocky gale]

Because it needs to be a stake

[opaque coyote]

One of the 10 commandments of the Imperium

"#1. Aura farming and aesthetics is top priority"

As decreed by the Emperor himself

[celest dome]

Condemnor Bolter give the ability to use Silver Stakes, which is quite good against Warp beings

[late verge]

But it looks LAME AND WEIRD

[rocky gale]

Do you show up to a vampire movie when they're going to stake it in the heart and go "Why don't they just shoot it with boolets"

Nerd

[late verge]

Whatever it doesnt actually matter

[late verge]

Yes

[rocky gale]

Gotta be a stake, thems the rules

[celest dome]

Surface area, runes and stuff not carrying well on explosive rounds

Stakes remaining stuck in the enemy making them weaker

[late verge]

Then get like a pneumatic stake launcher or some shit there are a million reasons why a crossbow isnt the best option

[late verge]

So do boolets

[near wasp]

Also the idea that a silver stake hurts unholy beings probably also does extra damage against psykers

And demons

[arctic talon]

its got a bunch of special shit carved into it

iirc

[late verge]

Wait if its silver that makes even less sense

[arctic talon]

The surface area/size is what matters

they're not silver

[opaque coyote]

But I guess to like... pretend to make some justification.

The warp is primarily based on vibes. Literally. That's why melee weapons are actually better to use against daemons compared to range.

Stakes in particular have a history of being used against vampires and even other "monsters". Because of that history of slaying cursed beings. It could be more effective against something that would be considered a monster.

Like a Rogue, uncontrolled Psyker that's probably controlled by daemons.

[late verge]

If its wood then okay fair wood would be destroyed in the blast but silver is metal, a soft metal but still

[celest dome]

Smaller, bullets tend to deform

[arctic talon]

they're silver stakes and also they need to be big

[vagrant fox]

RE9 is defininitely a Resident Evil game

[late verge]

Da warpz is based on voibez

[arctic talon]

They can't make a bullet do the same

is the in universe justification

not big enough to get all the engravings

[vagrant fox]

Warp stuff is all about vibes yes

[arctic talon]

and shit onto it

[late verge]

Sure but gun is cooler than crossbow

[arctic talon]

Crossbows are cool

smh

[rocky gale]

Also it looks cool, you're just wrong

[late verge]

Gun are cooler

[rocky gale]

It is a gun

[late verge]

#1 crossbow hater

[rocky gale]

With a crossbow ontop of it

[celest dome]

There are some rune scribed Bolts, like the Psy-Bolts, but they're much more difficult to manufacture than making Silver stakes that are reuseable

[late verge]

It looks TACKY RAAAA

[vagrant fox]

Condemnors aren't

but this one is

[storm jungle]

Are we legit arguing over a bolter with a crossbow ontop

[opaque coyote]

Yes

[storm jungle]

VAN HELLSING AUTO-CROSSBOW MENTIONED

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHH

https://klipy.com/gifs/skeleton-banging-shield

i love all his equipment in that movie

mfer has a fucking pump shotgun

[celest dome]

Van Helsing was a great movie

[vagrant fox]

I should rewatch that movie

[storm jungle]

highly recommend, its great fun

legit came out in the wrong era where people think its slop for some reason, actual idiots

[vagrant fox]

I thought it was the coolest thing of all time yonder when

[arctic talon]

there's mag fed crossbows irl

they're cool

[opaque coyote]

I mean The Thing was considered as slop

For some reason

[arctic talon]

repeating crossbows are a thing

[vagrant fox]

Yea but they also look goofy

[late verge]

Yes because it harshes my vibe

[cerulean trellis]

oddly specific question: the adepta sororita do not take up a chastitty vow is that right?

[late verge]

FUCK PING AGAIN im sorry

[storm jungle]

Its cool. So uhhh go to the corner

[storm jungle]

DIE

https://tenor.com/view/jetpack-cat-fika-overwatch-ow-ow2-gif-16120669339969927346

drone strike inbound

[rocky gale]

Not necessarily

[vagrant fox]

Wild that the perfidious Han invented repeating crossbows in like the 300s bc or whatever

[late verge]

Okay thats pretty cool but in a medieval sorta way

If you have a GUN then a GUN is always gonna be COOLER IM SORRY

crossbow doesnt go bang

[opaque coyote]

No.

They're usually too busy for that.

A good chunk do though, but in general it isn't needed.

[late verge]

Theyre not catholic nuns

[opaque coyote]

I mean they kinda do

[opaque coyote]

....ignore the fact that they drop cathedrals on their enemies

[late verge]

warhammer uses the aesthetics of catholicism but they arent literal catholics

[cerulean trellis]

thanks ^^ i had a discussion with a mate of mine and he insisted they all do xD

[storm jungle]

I mean they are

[late verge]

They are firmly their own culture and religion

[opaque coyote]

Yeah ik, just that it can easily be mistaken

[storm jungle]

The Imperial Cult uses a lot of catholic themes and vibes

[late verge]

I didnt know catholics worshipped the emperor of mankind

[storm jungle]

even down to the duties of its religious personnel, missionaries etc

[storm jungle]

Not what im talking about smartass

gonna snap your-

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-1711

[cerulean trellis]

switch otu emperor of mankidn with god/jesus and there you go

[storm jungle]

Also that yeah

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/the-procedure-cat-donut-cookie-gif-25830675

[storm jungle]

They arent just catholic for aesthetics

they do about most of the evil shit catholics have done in history too

[late verge]

Yes but they are still not CATHOLICS

[storm jungle]

minus PDFiles because thats prob too much for books whoops

[late verge]

they are still their own religion and there will still be differences

[storm jungle]

(but it deffo happens)

[opaque coyote]

Goge Vandire would've certainly been one if it wasn't too much

Let's be honest here.

[celest dome]

No, some can though

[opaque coyote]

[cerulean trellis]

main difference: femal crusaders xD

[storm jungle]

🫵

[opaque coyote]

Bro would definitely be on the list

[storm jungle]

But yeah Vandire's thing was using the Daughters of the Emperor as his pleasure servants and warriors

they removed that in the recent codexes lmao

[arctic talon]

ngl

they should have kept it

[storm jungle]

Agreed

[arctic talon]

Vandires a sleezy piece of shit

[storm jungle]

and i say this as a lady lol

[cerulean trellis]

agreed

[arctic talon]

he gets his just deserts by having his brains blown out with a bolter

[celest dome]

Vandire would probably have the files named after him...

[storm jungle]

creepy old men being creepy old men is fine because he gets decapitated at the end lmao

[opaque coyote]

Bro is literally like

The embodiment of every Pope that abused their position

[storm jungle]

NOOOO

[opaque coyote]

Which is rather extensive

[late verge]

This shit always gets my goat tho whenever ppl try to argue that the imperium is homophobic/whatever like they arent literal catholics they can literally be whatever the writers want

[vagrant fox]

I'm gonna ignore that it was epstein redacted

[late verge]

Yeah agreed

It makes total sense

[late verge]

Im that too

[cerulean trellis]

i mean soem reject flirt with their own gender as well xD

[vagrant fox]

speaking of the files

https://fixvx.com/i/status/2027152136455303634

mhisa maya (@mhisamaya)

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[arctic talon]

holy based

[late verge]

Yeah :)

[vagrant fox]

It don't matter as long as there's meat for the gristle

[storm jungle]

Yeah but homophobia still exists in the Imperium

its a very "human" thing

40 millennia is not gonna change it

[arctic talon]

Thanks warhammer crime

[storm jungle]

its also not really tied to religion at its core

[late verge]

Lol what

No

[vagrant fox]

there's that, munitorium don't care

[arctic talon]

"On my homeworld your brother would have been fucking lynched"

[storm jungle]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

[late verge]

In what way is homophobia innately human

[arctic talon]

people will always try to make an out group

[opaque coyote]

Not necessarily homophobia itself

But fear against the unfamiliar

[storm jungle]

Because we are evolutionarily and culturally ingrained to see male/female relationships as normal

[arctic talon]

homophobia is one of those things they can do

[storm jungle]

and anything else beynd it as "not normal"

[storm jungle]

^

Like, why do people think human bigotry would ever go away is my question.

[vagrant fox]

Hatred of other is as old as the oldest profession is probably it

[cerulean trellis]

as in onyl humans are homophobic, other species do not care xD

[late verge]

In the vast majority of cultutes throughout the vast majority of human history we have not given a fuck

[storm jungle]

☝️

Humans are at their core fearful of the unknown

we could all look the same

and we'd still find a way to kill each other

its ingrained into us

[median star]

iv been hating since the neolithic personally

[opaque coyote]

Space Marines

[storm jungle]

Obviously not everyone is like this

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

but a majority are unfortunately apt to it

[vagrant fox]

I only hate the ones who deserve it

[late verge]

Not necessarily true but in discussions of 40k thats kind of a moot point

[arctic talon]

anyways warhammer crime literally has a world confirmed to lynch gay people so the Imperium hasn't eradicated that sort of behavior

lol

Even if its just on one world

[opaque coyote]

It also matters on upbringing. Like in general.

[late verge]

Yeah obv different planets would have different cultures with different beliefs but it is NOT an innately human thing at all

[arctic talon]

not Varangantua/Alecto

[late verge]

Yeah cause why would the impewium care

[fervent geode]

Hate is an innately human thing, the outlets not so much

[arctic talon]

it has no reason to yeah

[opaque coyote]

The hatred of others that are different is.

Homophobia is merely hust

One form

[median star]

what was the ogryns name again bragget and him my goats

[opaque coyote]

Counterpoint

Dolphins

[storm jungle]

The other thing is like why would they ever eliminate it either.

[opaque coyote]

It seems that hatred is connected to intelligence ngl

[storm jungle]

Why do the rulers give a fuck

lol

[arctic talon]

baggit and clodde

er

[fervent geode]

Dolphins aren't hate they enjoy it too much, they just fuckheads

[arctic talon]

wrong reply

[arctic talon]

baggit and clodde

[late verge]

But thats

AAAAUGHHH

[opaque coyote]

Slaanesh's champions

[late verge]

That's not how it WORKS

[storm jungle]

Reminder

[fervent geode]

Actually

[storm jungle]

The Imperium actively teaches its populace to be bigoted

[late verge]

people can be bigoted but not have a cultural framework for homophobia ITS NOT HARD

[fervent geode]

These are the Words of a Dark Apostle by the way in a certain book

[queen laurel]

that shit is even pinned in the message

[fervent geode]

True Chaos based

[arctic talon]

Warhammer crime also has the hilarious bit of

"Slavery has been banned from Alecto before we joined the Imperium"

along with

Literal indentured servants in the scene

10/10

GW

top tier satire

[median star]

their will never be equality in my god emperor given imperium smh

[late verge]

The ancient greeks were xenophobic misogynistic assholes and they still loved fucking dudes

[celest dome]

Heteronormativity doesn't really mean homophobia tbh, even if they're both linked

[arctic talon]

well it was a case of being the bottom was seen as bad

lol

[late verge]

That's not the same as homophobia

[storm jungle]

Doesnt really matter, hate is hate. And every human being will find something that makes the mdisgusted by others, gender stuff included.

Patriarchy is also ingrained into us as a thing

[median star]

its a respectable hobby afterall

[storm jungle]

and while the Imperium is mostly unisex in its regards theres also still sexism

[late verge]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner2049-blade-runner-angry-god-damnit-confused-gif-15118091

[storm jungle]

Its not as prominent but it exists

[storm jungle]

🤷‍♀️

fascists are fascists

again i got no idea why peopel think bigotry wont exist in the future lol

we carry it with us wherever we go

[late verge]

SPACE FASCISTS IN THE 41ST MILLENIUM ARE NOT THE SAME AS 21ST CENTURY FASCISTS

OMG

[fervent geode]

Bad people are bad

And be bad

[late verge]

40,000 YEARS AGO WE DIDNT EVEN HAVE AGRICULTURE

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WOULD CHANGE?????

[late verge]

WHEN did I say this????

[storm jungle]

I mean they are?

racism, genetic purity, mass purges, no mutants etc

this is literally stuff fascists preached now and still continue to do from the past to the present

The stuff the Imperium does is very much eastern bloc/nazi germany inspired

[vagrant fox]

It's written from a very 20th/21st century perspective

[storm jungle]

^

[opaque coyote]

I assume by then we would either ascend past our meaty shells

Or uh

All be dead

[storm jungle]

Latter prob lol

[late verge]

Can't win with you sometimes ugh

[fervent geode]

They got worse somehow but somehow less strictly fascist but more strictly evil imo

[late verge]

Not the point I was trying to make at all but whatever

[vagrant fox]

I'm not sure what point you were trying to make tbf

[vagrant fox]

As it should be

[late verge]

That homophobia isnt even close to being an innate human behaviour and people deprived of the abrahamic cultural context would not automatically also become homophobiv

[opaque coyote]

Tbf @late verge Is right in that homophobia itself isn't natural necessarily.

It is connected to something natural but it isn't innate to humanity

[vagrant fox]

I mean yeah I don't think that was the point other than it'd probably exist because hatred will find an outlet somehow in a myriad of ways on individual imperial planets

[storm jungle]

Mfer what did I do lol

[late verge]

Just because "they're hateful" isn't enough justification, they literally do not have the cultural basis to even see homosexuality as something weird.

[storm jungle]

like why are we acting like the stuff i said isnt real

[late verge]

Be stubbornly incorrect

[storm jungle]

????

Okay then lol

[fervent geode]

Evilism will overtake all other ideologies soon🙏

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-drink-sip-blink-the-mandalorian-gif-16043305

[cerulean trellis]

mood

[storm jungle]

This is it basically yeah. No one is saying the Imperium at wide is homophobic and sexist, its more that these are ways of bigotry that human beings do at their most basic capacity because we just sometimes "dont like it" as it encroaches on things that are ingrained into us evolutionarily.

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-bonnie-getting-attacked-by-withered-bonnie-toy-bonnie-bonnie-fnaf-fnaf-2-gif-13082154113473068863

[storm jungle]

Its the same reason how IRL we cannot fathom women in more male-oriented roles

"its just the way it is"

which is bullshit but lol

[fervent geode]

They would probably preach in certain worlds against it as it doesn't lead to procreation, which they want and need

[vagrant fox]

Male dominated career becomes woman dominated and suddenly it's way less prestigious and pays less is a funny one

[opaque coyote]

To be fair, it would definitely be dependant on the planet.

Like I can imagine a hiver seeing gay people and just shrugging. He's too busy doing his 20 hour work shift.

But I can imagine someone who has never seen it be grossed out almost immediately.

Because the Imperium has taught that anything unknown must die. Must be burn at the stake.

[late verge]

Homophobia as it exists now is EXTREMELY tied to the abrahamic religions.

[storm jungle]

This yeah, its only like 30 yaers ago where in America people were actively mocking Womens Sufferage on propaganda boards

[near wasp]

That's kinda what I see and probably much more strict as you go up the higharcy because you have to have heirs

[vagrant fox]

You're starting to win me over to your Word Bearer ways

[late verge]

YES EXACTLY

[storm jungle]

these things never go away because hate at its core is a very simple thing people get enamoured by

[celest dome]

Or worse, the "physicallity of the task make it impossible for women to be in those roles"
Then you see some of the men in question and they're not all peak fitness 💀

[storm jungle]

YEP

Like the entire reason we see women as "under" things is because at the start of most historic stuff they were just never allowed into those roles

now we normalize it

so nobody questions it

[fervent geode]

I would reckon homosexual nobility could hide/buy their safety, but i see the internal pressure you mean to9

[opaque coyote]

In general like

It is true that men generally have a higher cap in strength than women.

But also we never reach that cap unless if we strive for it. Even then it's hard

And not all jobs strive for it

[fervent geode]

These are the best ways

[storm jungle]

Pretty much like gay nobles IRL who just hide those feelings and lament them in journals too lol

[late verge]

For the future, perhaps there were better ways of wording your point here than "homophobia is innate to humanity"

[outer wave]

Tbf I think the religion POV just gives people that go "Ew icky" when they see two men kiss just feel that they have moral superiority, so just more justification for people like them.

[storm jungle]

or act like "WHAT IS THIS FEELING"

[fervent geode]

Yeah lmao

[storm jungle]

Go outside and try walking hand to hand with someone of yoru own gender then tell me tihs

lol

[opaque coyote]

I genuinely feel bad whenever I read old journals like that tbh

[storm jungle]

I would literally get beaten on the street here in turkey if i ever did that

[storm jungle]

Or prob worse ngl

[near wasp]

Sad

[storm jungle]

if i was in Afghanistan id prob be killed lol

[late verge]

Oh my fucking god was this the point I was trying to make

No

Its not

[fervent geode]

Depends where you are in Malaysia but i defo wouldny recommend it most places

[storm jungle]

You are really getting worked up over nothing

[late verge]

If you did that 40,000 years ago nobody would care

[storm jungle]

They would lol

[opaque coyote]

Just be in a tank with an entire tank crew. It's that shrimple

[fervent geode]

The more urban the safer

[opaque coyote]

[vagrant fox]

I mean you can't say that for certain

[storm jungle]

Homophobia has been a part of human culture for like generations

[late verge]

No, they didn't!

[opaque coyote]

Unless in certain spots

[storm jungle]

ıt isnt universal but it exists

[fervent geode]

I mean we were monkeys

[late verge]

NO IT ISNT

[storm jungle]

Oh my god dude

[near wasp]

Yes it has

[outer wave]

I wish we evolved from Binobos tbh

[late verge]

This is precisely what I'm talking about

[fervent geode]

Well here generally not safer for everyone in such cases (mugged)

[storm jungle]

Homphobia as a source largely spawned from catholicism and other religions + patriarchy preaching against it and telling people to embrace matrimony between Man and Woman yeah

then it kinda spirals from there

[opaque coyote]

Yesn't.

It depends on the culture and country.

It's worth noting that Thailand is notorious for being friendly to gay and trans people.

And it's... also the only Asian country that hasn't been encountered by the British

[storm jungle]

its way too complex of a subject

[opaque coyote]

God fucking damnit Britain

[late verge]

TIL THAT CATHOLICISM EXISTED 40,000 YEARS AGO

[storm jungle]

It is but you can still see it happen.

[fervent geode]

I trust that before Catholicism we had homophobes but i get what ya mean

[late verge]

Hey

[storm jungle]

Huh?

[near wasp]

Homophobia existed before that too tho

[late verge]

Wanna hear a fun fact

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[late verge]

We have literally no evidence of this

[storm jungle]

Deffo lol

[fervent geode]

Sup

[late verge]

LITERALLY none

[storm jungle]

Like

[fervent geode]

Torah?

[storm jungle]

i get that you wanna have faith in your fellow man

but having grown up where i have my patience is at its end with such things lol

[opaque coyote]

penis

[fervent geode]

Im pretty sure it was one of the reasons Sodom and Gomorrah were doomed

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

[fervent geode]

So its also Old Testament and Torah canon

Homophobia i guess

But well i was thinking about chaos knights most bible studies so uh

Dont quote me

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I think the main reason why it got striked down is because as soon as angels came down to warn them

They uhhh immediately tried to sexually assault said angels

[late verge]

No its not even that its the assertion that homophobia is somehow an innate behaviour and not a random cultural phenomenon that only exists now because of the abrahamic religions randomly deciding its bad is PRECISELY the argument that homophobes make to justify it

HOMOPHOBIA IS NOT IN ANY WAY NATURAL, INNATE, OR CULTURALLY PRECEDENT OUTSIDE OF THE ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS.

[fervent geode]

Fr?

[lament shoal]

I think I remember reading an anti same sex relationship law in the old testament in the section talking about the laws moses brought from god

[fervent geode]

Thats crazy

[opaque coyote]

Fr

[near wasp]

Homophobia existed before Catholic it was just viewed differently depending on where you were. Like in Roma if you were a submissive gay man you were looked down on for taking

[late verge]

I KNOW THIS. I AM AN ANTHROPOLOGY STUDENT

[fervent geode]

I dint remember that lmfao

Ngk

[opaque coyote]

The Old Testament is fucking insane in general

[storm jungle]

Yeah this. Religion has largely pushed it for patriarchal reasons and to get people to marry or whatever

again its a complex subject and it has absolutely existed before religious stuff

[late verge]

"Before religious stuff"

Omg bro

[storm jungle]

Its literally in fucking middle eastern texts

[fervent geode]

Makes it more deserved, blud God sent you angels and you go freaky?

[storm jungle]

we are talking like 900 BC lol

[fervent geode]

This i know lmfao

[late verge]

WHICH ONES

[outer wave]

I'll be honest: it wouldn't be as enforced if there were no Ahrabamic religions, but people would still find gays weird and would justify dehumanizing them if they had the chance. It'd just wouldn't be as prominent nor as concentrated within a certain religion

[fervent geode]

Golden Calf water

[storm jungle]

Hebrew Torah

for starters lol

[storm jungle]

"IF SOMEONE DISAGREES WITH YOU, KILL THEM WITH A ROCK"

based old testament god 🙏

[fervent geode]

The whole wall of jericho getting knocked over with trumpets

Peak

[heady rivet]

I walked past two guys holding hands earlier today and they clocked my painted nails so hard we just all exchanged a knowing look

[vagrant fox]

that's gay

[storm jungle]

🫵

[fervent geode]

He wasn't afraid of the woke then, criticising his based atrocities

[arctic talon]

some cultures without exposure to Abrahamic religons had homophobia as well, I think ascribing it to just that is a bit silly

[outer wave]

I dont get why old testament is still being printed with new testament, since most readings in catholic churches are done from that reading or at least the churches I've been to anyway

[late verge]

Okay yk what listen if you want to be wrong then be wrong idc anymore I'm done with this conversation and we're talking about something else now

[storm jungle]

I guess some people just like reading it idk

[arctic talon]

because the Old Testament is hilarious

[storm jungle]

it IS pretty interesting ngl

[arctic talon]

jokes aside I think its important ot read the bible

[storm jungle]

it reads like a 40k codex at times

😭

[arctic talon]

if you're a christian/catholic

[late verge]

Look at this cat

[vagrant fox]

Old Testament is very entertaining

[opaque coyote]

But yeah Sodom and Gommorah is like literally the craziest part.

There's also a scene where Lot yelled to not SA the Angels.

Instead he offered his FUCKING DAUGHTERS AS A CONSOLATION PRIZE.

[arctic talon]

ect.

[outer wave]

It's interesting! But its not good to learn from all of it

[arctic talon]

cta

[storm jungle]

tbh i read the entire bible for quote farming so i get it

[heady rivet]

Turn off your computer for a month

[fervent geode]

I mean they tell its because God decided to be nice

Hey could defo yknow

[vagrant fox]

One of my religious schoolmates read it out loud and everyone was very awkward when it got to stoning the gays part

[storm jungle]

How about i turn your skull off for a month 👀

[fervent geode]

Jericho your town

[outer wave]

Me when I Gomorrah

[opaque coyote]

Important for Context tbf

[rocky gale]

Pretty much everyone in my workplace is either a woman or a gay guy, we've only got one token straight guy but he's like the gayest straight guy around so it's chill.

[storm jungle]

Gommorahites did nothing wrong....

[fervent geode]

Goodguy Lot

[solid horizon]

remember

[heady rivet]

I went to Catholic school as a youth

[solid horizon]

the law is just the police's codex

[lament shoal]

Who up sodoming they gomorrah

[vagrant fox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bar3GOzDNzg

This is one of the most important videos on the internet

[fervent geode]

I knew a gay guy who attended the chapel he just went uh huh

[vagrant fox]

I propose you watch it

[tough haven]

My favorite thing about Abrahamic religions is that their adherents act like the bible and other texts are separate and somehow better than "those silly ridiculous myths" from other religions because its like written down or something? And then I read abrahamic texts and stories and they are as insane if not more than the mythos of other religions or beliefs

[storm jungle]

the 4th of november....

[solid horizon]

GUY FAWKES

[tough haven]

That is a bold claim lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah also people act like these things dont get edited constantly because the Church notices the older editions are violent as shit lol

[solid horizon]

WILL BLOW UP THE GOLDEN THRONE

[fervent geode]

It is

[storm jungle]

they LITERALLY treat them like rulebooks

which is very goofy

[rocky gale]

That's the 5th of November

[storm jungle]

[tough haven]

I feel like other religions have a better sense of "Yeah its insane, and?"

[solid horizon]

Idc

[opaque coyote]

Also all of the men in the city literally surrounded his house and demanded he brings out his guests (the angels) to be "used".

The Angels also shoved Lot back in and struck all of the men with blindness

[heady rivet]

https://youtu.be/3h7hIvXv-cM Consider

[tough haven]

Yeah we just accept shit was crazy

[storm jungle]

Tbh they all steal from each other which is the funny thing

[solid horizon]

guy fawkes is every day of the year

[vagrant fox]

A lot of religious folk I've talked to says it's more about good deeds than strict adherence to the bible which is funny

[storm jungle]

i love when religions act like

"yeah you guys borrowed this from us"

[fervent geode]

Based angels

[storm jungle]

mfer yall stole each others homework

[solid horizon]

when I was little I thought it was spelled Gay Fox

[fervent geode]

What did the guy tell me uhhhhhhhh

[vagrant fox]

you're right this is more important I've watched it too many times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WCiBPjckTg

[late verge]

Im that

[fervent geode]

Faith without works is faith falsified or something

[tough haven]

Exactly, thats why I dont really give a shit about the proprietary-ness of religion, its just similar stories and ideals viewed through different lenses

[vagrant fox]

This isn't MemriTV

[lament shoal]

This ideology is primarily held by protestants. Catholics view the bible as a lot more interpretative and flexible

[heady rivet]

https://youtu.be/NeK7NdAvLrg Only getting worse for your claim

[storm jungle]

Same, and im a muslim so like lol

[storm jungle]

Well yeah otherwise you cant really sell people on it

theres a reason missionaries exist

crack-sellers in human skin

[fervent geode]

Yeah i mean, he is the bread but im not a cannibal

[vagrant fox]

Post a Memri TV

[tough haven]

I'm a ???

[rocky gale]

I mean his name wasn't even Guy, it was Guido. The English just called him Guy because idk

[storm jungle]

TIE ME TO A MISSLE

AND LAUNCH ME TO TEL AVIV

[heady rivet]

https://youtu.be/i0Z65Ssb8g0 Aw wait fuck check THIS

[tough haven]

Theres not exactly an accurate term for what I am

[arctic talon]

oh my god lol

[vagrant fox]

I love Memri TV so dearly

[tough haven]

I suppose the closest is Omnist

[arctic talon]

That cannot be real

is that real?

[storm jungle]

Is he wrong

[arctic talon]

I mean

no

[arctic talon]

but is that real?

[fervent geode]

Reminds me of the guy putting his elbow up his ass after denying to a mutfi he had knew what his hands did at night

[vagrant fox]

peak Imperial

[storm jungle]

Probably

[tough haven]

Ok, look in your heart and tell me it cant be

[storm jungle]

Anyway

[arctic talon]

oh it absolutely could be

[storm jungle]

50000000 AQUILAS TO ULTRAMAR

[opaque coyote]

Yeah uh...

When Lot and his wife ran away. His wife looked back to see the destruction and got turned in a literal pillar of salt

[heady rivet]

https://youtu.be/QFgcqB8-AxE

[fervent geode]

See the one with the good putting his sewak up his bum

[vagrant fox]

There is a lot of that yeah

[fervent geode]

I know this part

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the angels DID warn Lot and his family to "Not look back by any means"

But like bruh

[heady rivet]

https://youtu.be/dhTLDV9qPZ4

[vagrant fox]

I miss watching Memri TV with my egyptian friend Omar

He'd get beaten by his mother and his wife on the reg

[near wasp]

Damn

[fervent geode]

Yeah ive heard soo uh, i guess i am among the accursed (bean counter)

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/good-for-her-arrested-development-lucille-bluth-gif-27543686

[tough haven]

Completely unrelated, but someone who is knowledgeable on game engineering, are mouse sensitivity scales usually the same/similar on most games?

[vagrant fox]

speaking of Memri TV

[fervent geode]

Yeah i get that, still kinda

[lament shoal]

Personally I don't think missionaries are bad so long as they're being ethical and open minded about their work. Christianity was never about forcing people to believe, despite humans treating it that way in the past

[opaque coyote]

But in general

I have the temptation to like depict some the crazier stories in the Old Testament but in a humorous way

[storm jungle]

Their origin is sus af but as long as they dont like try to sneakily convert you im fine with it

the proble mis most Missionaries cannot take the answer "no"

which is just gross

[fervent geode]

I think my grrat grandpa liked the guy who told him about holy man thing

[fervent geode]

You dont have to generally lmfao

[heady rivet]

I like the idea its sneaky. Like you wake up one day and realize they GOT you, you're all "Fuuuck, I am a baptist!"

[vagrant fox]

The only time the Jehovas stopped annoying me is when I stated firmly that I'm a Plymouth Brethren
I think they didn't like my special brand of heresy

[tough haven]

Yeah thats why I find it entertaining that christians (at least the ones I see and hear from in most of my life) become increasingly more extreme, and paradoxically further from what i understand as the core tenets of the religion while becoming more fervently devout

[lament shoal]

Exactly

[opaque coyote]

Tbh most missionaries I met actually accepted no as an answer. But they were also from churches that were specifically not cultish

[storm jungle]

Baptiste?

[opaque coyote]

So

[storm jungle]

from Overwatch???

[rocky gale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/venture-overwatch-15

[fervent geode]

Yeah im not stoning gary on the other bench because he likes dudes

[tough haven]

I have no enmity towards christianity as a concept

[storm jungle]

I only hate religion if the people practicing it are annoying

[tough haven]

its what people twist it to in order to suit their belief systems and actions that disgusts me

I understand that religion and spirituality are all complex, personal issues, so you have to treat everything case by case

its why I'm largely against organized religion as a concept in general

[tough haven]

but if it makes people happy and dont harm themselves or others, Idfc

do whatever you like

[arctic talon]

wtf even is Memri TV

do they just pick the most absurd shit said out

[lament shoal]

This is Alex Jones type shit lmao

[arctic talon]

And thats all they do

[fervent geode]

Imo religion should stay out of politics, i mean christ says render unto caesar, the things that are caesar's, render unto god the things that are god's, blud told you not to mix ts shit

[tough haven]

Exactly

As I said

[fervent geode]

iirc they do cherry pick some nutcase stuff

[heady rivet]

Literal Israeli propaganda

[arctic talon]

thats crazy lmao

[heady rivet]

It was founded by the IDF

[tough haven]

I think religion is an intensely personal choice that shouldnt come into civics at all

[fervent geode]

But it is all real programs

They just choose the most insane

[arctic talon]

so its just cherry picking the worst of it

lol

[tough haven]

Have yall heard about the fucking my pillow guy

[fervent geode]

Big agree there

[tough haven]

starting his own news channel?

[arctic talon]

yes

[heady rivet]

MEMRI was co-founded in 1998 by Yigal Carmon, a former colonel in the Israeli military intelligence and Meyrav Wurmser, an Israeli-born, American political scientist. Colonel Carmon spent 22 years in Israeli military intelligence and later served as counter terrorism adviser to two Israeli prime ministers, Yitzhak Shamir and Yitzhak Rabin

MEMRI posts several misleading videos like the Mickey Mouse Clip which was accepted by other media networks, despite it's distortion. A phrase such as "The Jews will shoot us" is turned to "We will annihilate the Jews."

And mistranslating

[tough haven]

look at the gems on it

[arctic talon]

I see

[tough haven]

the absolute paragons of programming

[fervent geode]

Go find Hamas Mickey Mouse, he's 100% authentic afaik

[tough haven]

definitely not scraping the bottom of the barrel

[fervent geode]

Oh god pillow guy

[storm jungle]

Once again

is my islamic brother wrong?

How did the Emperor conquer the galaxy?

JIHAD

[arctic talon]

💀

[tough haven]

Got banned from most reputable places so he said:

https://tenor.com/view/dr-bean-dixon-dr-coffee-futurama-themepark-bender-gif-25160461

[arctic talon]

this is a true gold mine of absurd shit

lol

[storm jungle]

LITERALLY ME

(im right next to it)

[fervent geode]

I thought he didnt exist anymore

[tough haven]

100% ads from his products

[arctic talon]

Dilara supports Mike Pondsmith's vision of the future of the Middle east/j

[tough haven]

In most reputable places, yes

technically he should be in jail

but y'know

[fervent geode]

At least

[storm jungle]

💀

[fervent geode]

Well it is what it is sadly

[arctic talon]

pondsmith doesn't know how to parody the rest of the M.E. so he nuked it

💀

he knows how to make fun of Isreal though

[storm jungle]

????????

[fervent geode]

Wtf was they thinking

[storm jungle]

Zionists man

idfk

[fervent geode]

The ME is healing for now at least

Well

[arctic talon]

"Only Egypt, Syria and Israel managed to survive intact as they were already in a ruined state caused by the war and as such were left alone."

Thank you Pondsmith

[fervent geode]

Except for the zionist massacre zones

Unfortunately

[heady rivet]

And to "punish" Europe for not dying for them, since the Samson plan also will allegedly strike Moscow, Berlin, Paris, etc

[storm jungle]

tbh zionism is literally nazism so like

[storm jungle]

YEAH like what the fuck

[tough haven]

Genuinely look up clips of it, its like a middle school project for speech class

80% "Can you hear me now" like a zoom call

[arctic talon]

Pondsmith made the israeli corp make the warcrime knife

what did he mean by this

[fervent geode]

Yeah its basically they did it again somehow dirlewanger brigades and all

[lament shoal]

Yeah I always felt how it was weird that people were advocating for anti abortion laws when they're deeply rooted in religious belief. They're literally forcing their beliefs on others through these things.

[heady rivet]

I mean its not that shocking, they're Jewish supremacists that despise all non-Jews. They will say this to your face with pride

[tough haven]

If you find a "good" one, post it here

[fervent geode]

Ill see into lmao, is blud even trying

[tough haven]

I think so

[storm jungle]

yeah ive seen footage of Tel Aviv cops literally beating the shit out of normal jews/rabis that despise them

like pushing them to walls with batons and shit

actually insane

[tough haven]

there was a clip on the Daily Show showcase clips from it, but I cant find it

Gotta love randomly 6 seconds of dead air, then super sudden shit quality loud ass audio

[fervent geode]

If they wanna believe that its fine but dont force unto the state

[heady rivet]

Sorry you have to understand that bad things happened once so Israel is fully absolved of all current wrongdoing 🙏

[fervent geode]

Ofc how could i

[storm jungle]

As ever oppressed become oppressors

one of my worst childhood growing up moments was realising Steven Spielberg is a sack of shit lol

[fervent geode]

10000000 more dollars to tel aviv for self defence ICBMs

[storm jungle]

How the FUCK do you archive and not let MLK's speeches be avaliable to their family bruh

[fervent geode]

Burh the fuck

Why

[storm jungle]

YEA

I got no fucking idea

[lament shoal]

Exactly

[storm jungle]

like i was watching an MLK movie iirc and learned it from there

basically he has copyrighted the man's entire speeches somehow???

so if you wanna repeat those same words you'll ge ta lawsuit in a product

the fuck

[fervent geode]

Some people i guess, everything is an outley for them

[fervent geode]

Why

Why is Spielberg

Holding all of MLK's things

[storm jungle]

so not that shocking

[lament shoal]

We got that shit in fallout

[arctic talon]

not triangular

smh

[fervent geode]

This seems utterly pointless even given that, maybe hes just an ass tbh

[urban spire]

that's not true at all

[arctic talon]

also isn't that thing big lol

[urban spire]

they also hate most jews

[storm jungle]

VERY likely

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

i never really liked spielberg