40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

sorta

[storm jungle]

It deffo is

[arctic talon]

maybe

[fervent geode]

I mean if it has yknow

[arctic talon]

probably

[fervent geode]

It can yknow

[arctic talon]

Orks have nipples

they grow from mushrooms

fully grown

[fervent geode]

Orks are fungi

[storm jungle]

Instead of milk its prob mushroom beer

[lament shoal]

Mushroom milk

[arctic talon]

they're fungi animal hybrids

[hollow lantern]

why do orks have nipples, theyre asexually reproducing plants

[fervent geode]

Maybe the guy saying the old ones had a nipple fetish was right

[arctic talon]

I'm getting the Ed Greenwood lore

[lament shoal]

Imagine getting wasted off of ork milk lmao

[arctic talon]

behold, Canon Drow lore

Thank you Ed Greenwood

[fervent geode]

Wowie

[arctic talon]

you're such a freak but at least you're public about it

[rocky gale]

I'm asexual and I've got nipples. Checkmate atheist

[fervent geode]

Ill remember this the next BG3 run

[arctic talon]

Remember Ed Greenwood has a clause

anything he says about Forgotten Realms lore is canon

[storm jungle]

✋🥛

hand it over

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/me-dunk-ser-duncan-the-tall-peter-claffey-a-knight-of-the-seven-kingdoms-gif-11121081757111602768

[fervent geode]

Have you tried checking if they are real

[storm jungle]

a Dunk and Egg gif?

[fervent geode]

Or fungi

[storm jungle]

in THIS economy?

[arctic talon]

gona miss Ed when he's gone

[fervent geode]

Dunkedinegg

[arctic talon]

He's a pretty great person

[storm jungle]

whos Ed

[arctic talon]

creator of the Forgotten Realms™

[fervent geode]

This guy

[storm jungle]

damn 💀

[arctic talon]

yknow the place in Baldurs Gate 3

the setting rather

[fervent geode]

Yeah the whole getup

[arctic talon]

he's a bit of a freak but he's like, very nice

[hollow lantern]

Commit mitosis then

[arctic talon]

not a Chud

unlike fuckin Gary Gygax

[storm jungle]

Imma be real

[arctic talon]

cursed be his name

[storm jungle]

literally every homebrewer puts fetishes into the stuff they make

lol

[rocky gale]

You can't just ask someone to do that, perv

[arctic talon]

Yeah Forgotten Realms was his homebrew setting that became official lmao

its the main DnD setting and he gets final say on any changes

[lament shoal]

Does this include you

[arctic talon]

and gets to say whatever he wants is canon

[storm jungle]

I mean yes?

[fervent geode]

Ah, i mean he's Ao basically

[arctic talon]

yeah basicially lol

[lament shoal]

Damn I gotta step up my homebrew game ig lol

[arctic talon]

Also his self insert is Elminster lol

thats not a joke

[storm jungle]

Tbh the fetish shit in homebrew is always subtle

[fervent geode]

I will oneday insert yuri in my hb warband

[heady rivet]

I'll fuckin find out 🫡

[storm jungle]

its like how half the reason Dune has so many strong matriarchal organisations is because Herbert just REALLY liked his wife also dominatrix stuff

its great

[fervent geode]

Found the tson

[lament shoal]

Based

[fervent geode]

Herb moment

[hollow lantern]

This is better than what one of my former dms did

[arctic talon]

Ed's pretty fucking public on account of the "almost everyone in The forgotten realms is bisexual and thats the default" this was back in 1967

[hollow lantern]

I don't think i can even talk about it here

[storm jungle]

The Voice and the Sisters themselves are a very interesting concept too

[arctic talon]

So I'd say he's pretty progressive

[storm jungle]

like

[arctic talon]

The Voice is cool

[hollow lantern]

Just another dnd nightmare story for the pile

[storm jungle]

we really do listen to shit people say because "we just do"

[fervent geode]

True madlad vert based

[storm jungle]

Herbert was kinda cooking with that entire Voice concept

[fervent geode]

Worm man too

[storm jungle]

its like levels above psychic nonsense even which is kinda why i love it

[arctic talon]

its super cool tbh

I love The Voice™

[storm jungle]

yeah because its literally like mental suggestion isnt it?

not something supernatural

which is kinda nuts to me

[arctic talon]

its mental suggestion over several centuries

of like

Subtle messaging and shit

yeah

[heady rivet]

Alright worldbuilders, spill it

[storm jungle]

Yeah the entire inspiration like i said is how we do listen to each other and sometimes do what we are told, even when its not an orde rand something basic like "Hey i wanna say something" and you are instantly enamoured in some way and end up turning to hear what the person is gonna say

[rocky gale]

It's why I always use 3's in my worldbuilding

I fucking love 3's

[arctic talon]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/worldjerking/comments/12ykszf/sexual_dimorphism_of_the_nothavauthorsphetish/

[heady rivet]

Maurice

[rocky gale]

Triumvirates are peak, I can't stop making triumvirates

I just fucking love Triumvirates

[fervent geode]

I keep making fantasy worlds where people worship the Moon

[arctic talon]

you're not prying it from me until I die or my google docs get hacked

[heady rivet]

Erm ackshually the power of semen comes from the ancient Egyptian influences

[arctic talon]

smh

[heady rivet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pig-fat-kenjikungifs-fSD3yT23GL0SPqEIqF

[arctic talon]

are we talking about the lettuce incident

[storm jungle]

Die

[fervent geode]

Horus and Set or smth

[storm jungle]

tbh moon worship goes like forever ago

it makes sense people worship it so prelavently

[heady rivet]

Comedy is illegal i see. Because of woke.

[fervent geode]

I think i was innovative with Leeks being the devil in plant

[heady rivet]

Cant even sleep anymore. Because of woke.

[fervent geode]

Leading to the mass enslavement and oppression of the equivalent to the welsh

[storm jungle]

Checks out 💀

[drifting path]

I'm truly blessed to be ignorant enough to the Warhammer 40K lore to be unbothered by whatever nonsensical gooner garbage this is.

[lament shoal]

I mean its a fair question tbh

[rocky gale]

It's just breastfeeding

[heady rivet]

He writes it down

[rocky gale]

This guy gets it

[arctic talon]

Yeah so I can run a fucking campaign in it

smh

[rocky gale]

I actively run multiple campaigns without writing anything down and taking no notes.

[heady rivet]

Nah, I'd remember

[rocky gale]

Yea

Just remember

[drifting path]

They kinda resemble that of a space elf?

[heady rivet]

I can remember anything

[lament shoal]

Eldar? Yeah that's literally what they are lol

[rocky gale]

Oh I only remember non useful information, so all my homebrew is locked up nice and safe in the old memory bank

[drifting path]

So, what makes them evil? Do they throw infants in volcanoes? Something must be off about them.

[heady rivet]

Oh yeah? Who does the taxes, go

[fervent geode]

Depends on the type

[rocky gale]

In which setting?

[heady rivet]

They are evil because they are weak.

[drifting path]

The type?

[heady rivet]

In your taxcore setting with IRSpunk themes

[rocky gale]

Don't got one, sounds lame

I only have cool homebrew

[fervent geode]

Dark eldar, clown eldar, normal eldar, tree eldar and chaos eldar

[drifting path]

Excuse me. Clown eldar?

[fervent geode]

The first torture people to exist

[arctic talon]

Craftworld Eldar are evil due to the fact they're willing to throw anything and anyone under the bus to ensure their survival

[lament shoal]

Yup, the Harlequins lol

[storm jungle]

• Craftworld Eldar the base high elf equilavent are "evil" because they will basically sacrifice anyone else to defend their craftworlds (planet sized nationships) to make sure their people survive.
• Dark Eldar the dark elf equilavent are just sadistic evil bastards that go out to raid and empty entire planets to torture the populace to sate their soulthrist

[fervent geode]

Yes, Harlequins, servants of the clown god

[arctic talon]

The Dark Eldar are evil because they're an entire race of sadistic evil assholes who torture peopel to sustain themselves

[storm jungle]

The thing with Craftworld Eldar is you can kinda understand and excuse them when you know humanity is literally space nazis

and would never ever help them

and straight up just try to exterminate them

[fervent geode]

Tree eldar are like craftworld but on a planet called a maiden world

[fervent geode]

And with dinosaurs

[wispy willow]

I was looking at old messages on here it was funny just looking at Van Der Linde

I am cooked

[arctic talon]

The harlequins are uh

the harlequins

they really hate chaos

but they're also extremely violent and weird

very little rhyme or reason to their actions

[fervent geode]

Chaos eldar are evil fucks obvi they eat people and shit so yeah

[arctic talon]

beyond what their God tells them to do in essence

[lament shoal]

in walks my iconoclast rt

[storm jungle]

ONE LAST BIG SCORE

[arctic talon]

beyond just KILL CHAOS

[storm jungle]

my goat

[wispy willow]

😭 my last name is Van Der Linde

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dutch-van-der-linde-red-dead-redemption-2-IwU

[storm jungle]

yeah im sorry you are cooked

[wispy willow]

And my opas nick name is Dutch

And

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[wispy willow]

He always has a plan

[storm jungle]

damn destined to play RD2

[wispy willow]

😭

[fervent geode]

Ever been to tahiti

[rocky gale]

Bro's putting together a gang

[wispy willow]

I've played them multiple times lmao

[drifting path]

Do we legitimately not have one faction whose moral alignment is somewhat ambiguous?

[arctic talon]

no

[heady rivet]

No.

[arctic talon]

just evil

[fervent geode]

Me

[arctic talon]

the scale of evil depends

[wispy willow]

Hit me up to join the Vanderlinde gang

[storm jungle]

Craftworld Eldar are the closest

[arctic talon]

but everyone is fucking evil

[storm jungle]

but they are aliens

[wispy willow]

I kinda look like him too

[storm jungle]

so its kinda muddy

[arctic talon]

the Craftworld Eldar are the closest to nice

but they will just

[lament shoal]

Votann kinda? But they're mostly in it for themselves and wanna be left alone

[arctic talon]

sacrifice trillions to save people

[storm jungle]

Nah Votann are just cyberpunk villains

LOL

[arctic talon]

so your decision on if thats justifable

The LoV are assholes

they literally destroy planets for nickle

and copper

[heady rivet]

They strip-mine peoples planets without asking and crack the core without warning

[fervent geode]

CW eldar are also bad

[storm jungle]

destroyer planets?

[rocky gale]

Drukhari are the good guys

[lament shoal]

Nevermind 💀

[storm jungle]

bro they start civil wars so people kill each other so that the ycan come later and extract everything from the warzones

[heady rivet]

The thing is

[storm jungle]

RAAARGH

[fervent geode]

Its just the ill kill yall to save me kinda bad

Everyone sucks here

[heady rivet]

The Night Lords have literally done nothing evil ever

[wispy willow]

We might be fucked chat

[wispy willow]

I look like duthc

dutch

[storm jungle]

TBH

Dutch has a great look

[fervent geode]

Word Bearers neither

[storm jungle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dutch-van-der-linde-red-dead-redemption-2

[wispy willow]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3309465009185715&set=pb.100003667457397.-2207520000&type=3

[storm jungle]

that hitler chinstache

[arctic talon]

LOL

I love those image

[wispy willow]

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/501040631_3556394161159464_3290853665794198022_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=7b2446&_nc_ohc=mawvXwDRosgQ7kNvwGsmt8Y&_nc_oc=AdkspW_3hCELILb0Zal6EKnSpN6ijFUhP-BmT8WIaZr8BzsFuwCdMX8WJfpNEgYchZA&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&_nc_gid=enoJ-jARajKuP5mpeVUqng&oh=00_Aft8L_QlY2T3HPbwLfXOTTrnUqjb-zCw92v2ivX_rCckTg&oe=69A423BE

[drifting path]

I don't know enough to determine if this is satire or not.

[arctic talon]

its satire

[storm jungle]

shes joking

dont listen to her

LOL

[fervent geode]

Massive lies

[heady rivet]

Literally true.

[fervent geode]

The torture junkies

[rocky gale]

I'm the only one you should listen to

[fervent geode]

If you wanna get mugged

[rocky gale]

My lies are the most truthful

[wispy willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1129128874433839214/1316168830191534201/ezgif.com-added-text_1.gif

Bro why

Holy fuck cant have any perms

[heady rivet]

ITS ME BOY, IT'S THE PS5. SPEAKING TO YOU INSIDE YOUR BRAIN

[arctic talon]

yap more

[lament shoal]

Talk more dawg

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1129128874433839214/1316168830191534201/ezgif.com-added-text_1.gif?ex=699f76be&is=699e253e&hm=3558c3b1f3a708e29e920ca9e829aab94d7706cbe20322b518d9bfb357a4f5ec&

[wispy willow]

Bro I don't have time

[wispy willow]

Thats me

[lament shoal]

U need to have a role for perms

[wispy willow]

😭

[fervent geode]

Ye

[wispy willow]

HAHAHAHAHHA

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1129128874433839214/1260054517320515654/filtered-20F7550B-DE7E-4FB1-93D9-04926D63FFC9-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

I am dutch

[drifting path]

Do other races have physkers? I don't know if I spelled that correctly.

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/psycho-mantis-mgs-metal-gear-solid-tretij-rebenok-its-me-boy-gif-26664088

[rocky gale]

Some of them do, some don't

[fervent geode]

Yes the Aeldar are a psychic species even

[rocky gale]

Yea every Eldar is a Psyker, except Dark Eldar (Drukhari) because they surpress their pshycic energy to stop Slaanesh from eating their soul.

[fervent geode]

The Tau are pretty inert

Orks have uh

Weirdboy psykers

The vomit beams and shit

[lament shoal]

Orks, genestealer cultists/nids, humans, eldar, and space marines all have psykers. There's more that do as well but these are the ones I can name off the top of my head

[rocky gale]

Tau don't have Psykers because their souls are too weak, Tau do have Etherials but they're something else maybe. Orks are all somewhat psykers and generate a collective pshycic field but also have actual psykers who can manipulate that field, then there are a lot of other miscelanious Xenos races which have psykers or don't etc

See everyone is pointing at my messages because I'm the one people should listen to.

[fervent geode]

For now

We will uprising soon

[lament shoal]

DID SOMEBODY SAY UPRISING?! 🗣️

[rocky gale]

Sure

https://klipy.com/gifs/firing-squad-monty-python

[fervent geode]

Uh oh

[storm jungle]

LMAO WHY DO YOU HAVE THAT SAVED

[lament shoal]

Gsc are my favorite xenos faction, so I had to add this to my collection lol

[storm jungle]

Damn true

[lament shoal]

Still love how the big dude at the start perfectly mirrors how aberrants are lol

[rocky gale]

Yea they're some slim pickings, gotta hoard what you can get.

[storm jungle]

That was half the reason i wanted to make it

that moment in the vorkuta mission is hype af and i was like "yeah this is basically an aberrant"

[rocky gale]

I don't believe you made it, it doesn't have the watermark

[drifting path]

If Orks have the power of imagination, can't they just like, all be godly psykers?

[languid meadow]

We need a mass suciidde cult like dead space or something

[fervent geode]

They have a psychic gestalt as a race

[rocky gale]

Their power isn't limitless, it's reality lubricant

[fervent geode]

But not all have the psychic potential to tap into the empyrean

[fervent geode]

Genestealer Cult

But id like to see more the chaos cult trope

Where the mass sacrifice the unleash to daemonohorde

[languid meadow]

I feel like the suicide comes after the the big event

For GSC

[fervent geode]

True enough

[languid meadow]

Instead of being pre emptive

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[rocky gale]

See you know Dilara made this one

[storm jungle]

[jade holly]

Gay sex when straight abstinence shows up

[lament shoal]

LITERALLY ME

[crisp heath]

Please let there be a Night Lords version of this

[fervent geode]

Talos already uses a Bangle Sword twin, thats confirmation

[crisp heath]

[tough haven]

It cant be on the table, it breaks every time

Its actually just space marines in general

[paper haven]

What are we angry about today, boys?

[tough haven]

because as we know

[fervent geode]

Something...

[tough haven]

it is marketed homosexuality disguised as straight awesomeness

because society is too cowardly to sell gay awesomeness

[fervent geode]

WB are now the toxic yuri legion, i have made my claim. Now to either triumph or perish.

[tough haven]

That my country is being run and actively harmed not only by idiots, but ineffectual idiots

[paper haven]

Good enough for me

[fervent geode]

True

[tough haven]

its one thing to be defeated by effective and cool evil people

but like why are they such losers

how did we get trounced by these people

like Elon musk

[paper haven]

Hah, that can be any number of countries

[tough haven]

like look at his recent interview where he's asked the most simple follow up question "why?"

and he just completely falls apart

[paper haven]

Elon musk interviews are really sad

[fervent geode]

I have no idea whats happened to him

[tough haven]

actually painful to watch

[tough haven]

he's always been like this

[fervent geode]

He kinda went insane afaik

[fervent geode]

Well mask off then

I dont recall him being this dumb openly in the past

[tough haven]

hes a petulant child who just wants control and affection from anything and anyone because he is so painfully unlikeable

[tough haven]

Perhaps you have changed

[paper haven]

The problem is he was always like this. Most of the interviews were before he really got popular

[fervent geode]

Sounds about right

[tough haven]

maybe your eyes have grown sharper

[winter pine]

It's drug abuse 100%

[tough haven]

Like take away all the political shit, and everything he does

[winter pine]

guy in completely down the rabbit hole of whatever soviet era shit people in Silicon Valley use

[fervent geode]

probably, he just appears in the news more now

[tough haven]

you meet that man on the street

are you interacting with him at all?

No.

[fervent geode]

I can see that ngl

[tough haven]

No you are not.

[paper haven]

He'll make a joke or grand statement and then wait for people to clap

[fervent geode]

Or ask for it like jeb prob

[paper haven]

and when they don't (which is often), you can see him deflate.

[fervent geode]

Yeah

[tough haven]

I love the emails of him fucking begging to be let on The Island™ and getting rejected, and then when he gets successful and is accepted trying to do a pathetically painful hard to get act

[fervent geode]

He's kinda sad in that pathetic way yknow

Like pitiful

[tough haven]

Just a person with zero emotional skills or ability to deal with disappointment

[paper haven]

A child, yeah.

[winter pine]

I dunno if this ever proved to be true but I believe it like I do him having a botched dick implant because it's grimly funny

[tough haven]

Granted he is most certainly some sort of neurodivergent but thats no excuse

I know plenty of people that are neurodivergent and are decent

its not hard

[paper haven]

Better than even odds

[winter pine]

we don't claim him

[tough haven]

I hate people looking at him and twisting any arguement against him into some ableist sentiment

[winter pine]

lmfao

[tough haven]

Its my favorite meme

[paper haven]

Classic red team/blue team

[winter pine]

average cainist enjoyer

[fervent geode]

Fraud ass, everyone knows that Set made all kindred

[celest cedar]

When youre taught through feelings 🗣️

[daring creek]

anyone else watching the union

I'm feeling like a clown ngl

[rose thorn]

hey when herclies was like, injured in his heel

what weapon did it?

i cant remmeber if it was a spear

or somethign else

OH IT WASN AN ARROWWHOOPS

[daring creek]

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[near wasp]

You would be of the ministry

It makes so much sense

[fervent geode]

Mmm, I even believe there is a wider overlap between us Ministers and XVIIth Legion personnel

[near wasp]

My players said I would either be a gangrel or la Sombra

The corrupted cultist aesthetic yeah very close vibe

[fervent geode]

I like the Lasombra

Their vibe

[languid meadow]

Shadow magic is very cool

But I think their curse is really just weird

[near wasp]

Why

It's like one of the most classic vampire curses

[languid meadow]

Nvm I was thinking of a different clan for some reason

My brain is rot

[near wasp]

Ah

There are a lot of clans and bloodline that all have different curses

Easy to mix them up

[languid meadow]

Yeah they all different names

Banes

[near wasp]

Yeah

[languid meadow]

And each clan can have a variation of a bane

[near wasp]

I'm hosting for a tedodor and a hecata

My hecata has the variation that give painful bite

[winter pine]

Tzimisce was always my favorite tbqh

[daring creek]

+food poisoning

Ew this post made me remember that switch chick from payday

[near wasp]

I've only seen one depicted in game and that was in NY by night

He did a really good job

[fervent geode]

Tzimisce are very cool

Esp the Old Clan

Koldunism goes wild

[near wasp]

They are so alien

I like them but I do not understand them

[winter pine]

iirc isn't this a cainite being so strong of will they command nature to do what they say? Good stuff

[fervent geode]

That's fair, a Tzimisce once told me they don't fully get their clan either lmfao

[fervent geode]

Yeap

Powered by an Earthbound Kupala

Flooding Towns and Shaking the Earth

I will admit sadly Akhu isn't as cool

But hey being able to repair anything is handy

And summoning thunderstorms too

[near wasp]

Koldunism always gets brushed over in every video I watch about the tzimsce

[winter pine]

I've wanted to see if I can find a table that would let me try a Tzimisce in a Camirilla city, would love to print boons with vicissitude

[fervent geode]

Coz its an old clan thing iirc

[near wasp]

I mean just be the courts torturer

[fervent geode]

The New Clan after the Anarch Revolt abandoned it mostly

[near wasp]

Old clans will all around Transylvania right

[fervent geode]

I mean prob some oldheads like Vykos or Ruthven still know

[fervent geode]

Yup

Still hanging

Their curse is that they can't leave the soil of the Carpathians iirc

[near wasp]

Oh that's dumb

[fervent geode]

Its coz of what Tzimisce did

[near wasp]

His deal with the demon

[fervent geode]

Basically he bound them to a earthbound demon yeah

[winter pine]

the prince having to step in and tell me I can't pluck out an anarch's eyeballs smh

[fervent geode]

Kupala is still there powering the Old Clan

Ok so what I am gonna say next will sound really stupid and like a horrible idra

[near wasp]

"why they'll grow back"

I don't like the fact I thought of that so quickly

[fervent geode]

Tzimisce lives, go learn Koldunism from him, iirc he has 5 dots in all ways

[near wasp]

Bro I ain't braving those sewers

[fervent geode]

Now of course that's a horrible idea

[near wasp]

Ny rats are built different

[fervent geode]

Me neither, I am staying away from him at all costs

[fervent geode]

Tbh knowing Tzimisce he might also be the rats

[near wasp]

My chronicle is taking place in New York tho

[fervent geode]

Uh oh

[near wasp]

So I could make the players deal with that if I wanted

[fervent geode]

Hmm

If your group has Tzimisce it would be funny

[near wasp]

They do not

[fervent geode]

Alas

[winter pine]

I really want to try Mage sometime since the magic system is so crazy lmao

[near wasp]

I do have a sabbat aligned tzimsce I made to be a villain tho

[fervent geode]

Ive heard wild shit about magic, and something about geometry

[winter pine]

some of the Mage The Ascension lore did not age well though I might have to work around it

[fervent geode]

Maybe they decide to do something very stupid whilst listening to a head voice

[near wasp]

I mean they could lead my players down into the sewers

[fervent geode]

From what I understand a sabbat kindred would get fucked by him unless he finds them entertaining, so sounds like a good premise

Then again same for cammies

Or anarchs

[near wasp]

Same for everybody

[fervent geode]

Yrah

The Dragon is uh

Fair

[near wasp]

The eldest is just evil

[fervent geode]

Basically

[near wasp]

I call him eldest so I don't get him mixed up with dracon

[fervent geode]

iirc one of the theories of his embrace was that one of the 2nd Gen dumped all their evil into a man expecting him to die

[fervent geode]

Fair enough

[fervent geode]

Didnt work

[winter pine]

Perturabo attitude of continuing to live purely to spite the world

[fervent geode]

Dracon is either his favourite or 2nd favourite childe

[winter pine]

lmao

[fervent geode]

Makes sense they have that similarity

[near wasp]

The tzimsce I'm having be a villain is from dracons line

[fervent geode]

This guy is having wayyy too much fun tho lmao

[fervent geode]

Interesting

Via Symeon?

[near wasp]

Uhhh idk that much lineage

[fervent geode]

Fair enough, but he could come from Vykos if that's the case was what i was thinking

Which would ve funny

Dracon had many childer anyway

[near wasp]

Probably since vykos was so prominently sabbat

But I went for the old Micheal styling himself an arch angel so this guy took up the name Raphael and gave himself wings with vissatude.

[fervent geode]

Ah, very interesting that this villain takes inspo from Michael's Dream

Were they around for it?

Could make for something interesting stuff

[near wasp]

Probably were embraced nearing the end

[fervent geode]

Ah

[near wasp]

I'm not 100 percent sure tho

[fervent geode]

Still could cause nostalgia anyway

[near wasp]

Maybe he enjoyed stories from the glory of the dream

[fervent geode]

Yeah, maybe he wants to "live it" since he was denied the oppurtunity

[near wasp]

Maybe

Anyways I probably don't have to worry about that too much for a long time

Since this coterie is very new and I will have them be dealing with more street level stuff for now

But he definitely is the leader of the overall sabbat presence in the area

[fervent geode]

Ah that's cool, good luck to your coterie and hope yall have fun

[near wasp]

Yeah it should be plenty of fun

[rose thorn]

Talking to my friend about how we make pathfinder character builds

For context I’m the forever dm

[outer wave]

Pathfinder is something Ive been interested in playing, but am fearful of making a useless character because I picked X feat at level 2

Also how good is Pathfinder for stuff that isnt just combat related? I imagine okay?

[winter pine]

I always heard much of the fun of Pathfinder is just busting it with a good character

[outer wave]

Yeah it really encourages you to minmax the fuck out of it

Problem is that if you dont, you kinda get outscaled from what I hear

And you can potentially brick a character due to decisions

[winter pine]

oh sweet, old computer RPG design in TTRPG form

my favorite

[rose thorn]

There is ALOT of non combat stuff, and there’s an entire system for non combat stuff

[outer wave]

Is it 1e or 2e you're making a character for?

[rose thorn]

2e

All of your skill feats and general feats are basically for roleplay

And the travel system

And for like downtime stuff

[arctic talon]

It’s slightly better then dnd

[winter pine]

Only fantasy ttrpg / setting I really want to play is Planescape, dunno how well it would pair with Pathfinder

[arctic talon]

Which is to say not great

Oh wait 2e

2e is better

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

2e still can fucking brick your build tho

So be careful with that lol

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[outer wave]

I still wanna try that FF-themed Pathfinder homebrew

[arctic talon]

That one is good

[rose thorn]

Yeha I have been reworking my character build like 5 times to work with the theme

[outer wave]

I imagine its harder though?

[arctic talon]

It’s easier then 1e I’m ngl

lol

But you have less options

[rose thorn]

We play with duel class and free archetype because uhhhhhh

[arctic talon]

So it’s easier to hit a dud

[rose thorn]

It’s funny

[arctic talon]

Free archetype should always be played with

Imo

[rose thorn]

Exactly

[outer wave]

Its been a while, but I had a Gria Bonebreaker who I was really excited to try using, but the RP kinda died

[arctic talon]

Makes it more fun

Rip

[rose thorn]

We do duel class because it means I can make combat difficult. I know “ohh add map interaction stuff” and “encourage other ideas” but my party literally refused to interact with the map so scaring the shit out of them is the next best thing

And it actually does force them to strategize

[arctic talon]

dual class is bleh imo

I think it should be available

[outer wave]

How do you mean by "not interacting with the map"? They just dont care for details or they dont interact with it in a combat scenario?

[arctic talon]

pathfinder is touted as "tactical"

[rose thorn]

Interact with it in combat

[arctic talon]

how tactical it is is uh

[outer wave]

Ahhh

[arctic talon]

up for debate

[rose thorn]

Yeah lmao

[arctic talon]

but it def encourages teamwork more

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

its not something like Cyberpunk Red/Delta Green/Lancer where its like

TAKE COVER OR DIE

WORK TOGETHER OR DIE

[rose thorn]

Pathfinder 2e does work significantly better than DnD with larger maps

[arctic talon]

Pathfinder is I highly recomend you to work together

[sacred ginkgo]

Its very entertaining getting to see a DM try to make actual problems for a 14th level 5.5e dnd party

[rose thorn]

My party somehow is convinced I’m a sadist (I beat one of them once in a boardgame), convened everyone i make everything is a trap, so now I just make combat encounters I like lmao

It’s a cruel cycle

But it works out now

[outer wave]

Well, long as they're not constantly making perception checks in dungeon hallways, think it should be cool

[rose thorn]

The joy I felt with the players exploiting resources I give them to the max

The players using stealth and the environment because they are scared of getting into one to one combat

And oh the spells

OH THE SPELLSSSS

I’ve never been more proud of how someone used 500 toads

It’s all I’ve ever wanted

I had to calculate how many toad it takes to drag a bear trap across the ground

[rose thorn]

That sounds like hell

[sacred ginkgo]

Its actually super neat

The most recent one was a Haunted Revenant and 3 death hounds

so spell disruption and darkness + fear and scary ambush attackers

Oh and swallow

[rose thorn]

You just attach piano wire to 2 trees and let your monk decapitate themself

[sacred ginkgo]

Oh and the new problem is a Ooblex in a town of 80 some odd 12th level pcs

Well

New old problem

[vagrant fox]

Obelix you say

[sacred ginkgo]

40 12th level pc clones

Also its incorporeal and so are the lead tendrils

[opaque coyote]

So warhammer 40k fun fact.

Goldilocks the Fairy Tale got mixed up by the time of 30k.

Now called... "Gul De Locs and the three ursine hypothesis"

Where they confuse the fictional Goldilocks with the Goldilocks principle for planet habitatability

They mistakenly believe Goldilocks was one of the supposed 13 apollyons who first set on the moon, and that she was the scientist who came up with the goldilocks zone theory of planetary habitability.

Also unrelated, there's an entry from the Dune Encyclopedia, which was released as a companio guide to Dune in the 80's.

It reframes WW2 as a "trade dispute", with the only thing notable being atomic weapons.

The entire Manhattan project is distilled to have been done by the efforts of "Raw Mentat" Einstein.

And of course, countriesx such as the USA, Japan, The UK, etc. are know as

House Washington, House Nippon, and House Windsor.

The USSR becomes “House Steel” btw

[median star]

i mean

[opaque coyote]

Tbf, given that Dune takes place so far into the future

It makes sense that they would view it as that.

[limpid granite]

@languid meadow @solid valley @storm jungle

[late verge]

Okay

[heady rivet]

I should play Chapter Master and pull my hair out today

[dapper gyro]

Go ahead. If you need hair transplant later, you can ask Dilara.

[raven stone]

Greetings

Work feels a little bit under control at last

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/praise-allah-gif-24350702

I just realized a spider would make more sense for knight house

[raven stone]

Wait what lorebook is this?

[rose thorn]

So we think alleriel will be amazing or ass she the battletome drops

[rocky gale]

Another late day for WarCom

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-shady-eyes-dog-shifty-gif-16536108

[hallow saddle]

has that votann dude been shown before?

(warcom)

[celest dome]

Apparently yes

[rocky gale]

Bro wtf

Why are Votann getting so many melee fucksticks

[crisp heath]

The Entity from DBD hates homeless people

[queen laurel]

Don't worry it can't be that much oh wait the last guy also carries around a big ass blade

[dapper gyro]

To be fair, polearms are more effective to kill those kind of things.

[vagrant fox]

dwarf

[dapper gyro]

The lack of polearms from the imperium in the recent editions disgust me.

[rocky gale]

[uncut edge]

This guys doesn’t know dwarves like bonking things

[rocky gale]

I don't like them existing for 4 months and having a larger unit roster than Drukhari

[vagrant fox]

[heady rivet]

Darktide drip any day now

Horse and all

One of those costumes with the fake horse and legs

[fervent geode]

How about a stick

And two coconut shells

Seems more feasible

[crisp heath]

If there's one thing in 40k I don't get in 40k lore (aside from Tau completely and a bit of Dark Eldars/Eldars)
Is voidships

And that's annoying because I want to plan on the type of ships my homebrew stuff uses

[dapper gyro]

Custodes is a given with glaive as their main weapons, but for the rest, they are quite rare.

[fervent geode]

Voidship is a spess ship, with a warp drive you can do FTL, gots many patterns of em

That's all i know rn

I mean

[crisp heath]

I mean like ships as a whole

[fervent geode]

Abyss Class is the biggest Imperial Categorisation

[fervent geode]

A fair enough

[crisp heath]

I don't know what classifies as "rare" ships still in use, generic used ones by everyone, chaos versions

Like

I know SHIT about 40k ships

[fervent geode]

Ok so uh

[languid meadow]

God I LOVE the new models so much my only issue is the plumes

[fervent geode]

Most chaos ships arent too dissimilar to imperial ones unless they are daemonoships

[languid meadow]

just so used to seeing them come from the top instead of a large pole

[fervent geode]

Chaos vessels are usually stolen or made at hell forges

[crisp heath]

I mean that's kinda their whole stuff

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/riselordvader-star-wars-darthvader-gif-22128593

[crisp heath]

If its not stolen and modified stuff from the imperium/xenos its just daemonmade

[heady rivet]

Hello there

[fervent geode]

Yeah generally

[crisp heath]

Teach me the ways of 40k ships
I know jackshit

[fervent geode]

Teach us wise munda pusher

[heady rivet]

Okay imagine a cathedral.
Izzin space.

There you have it

But also like what part specifically confuses you

[vagrant fox]

All you need know is the Repulsive grand cruiser is the coolest and best one

[fervent geode]

Abyss Class forever, make shitty ships that are too big to be useful and get blown up

[fervent geode]

Uhh how about Imperial Navy Ship Categorisation/Classes

Idk how

Like is the Despoiler Class CSM or IoM

[vagrant fox]

All despoiler class have been lost to chaos

Vaguely generally the older patterns tend to be in the hands of chaos iirc

[crisp heath]

You know how for like, space marine power armor, you usually would understand how each pattern is rare and mostly used by the time period?
Like "oh, firstborn is 7-8 and some times 4-6"?
I don't know nothing about ships

Variations

Classes

Their use

If they're rare, common gear

[limpid granite]

ship large

very huuuuuugeeeee

[vagrant fox]

If it has this kind of sloped prow it tends to be chaos simple as

[crisp heath]

I just wanna understand like

[fervent geode]

Oh that's odd

[fervent geode]

Oh yeah... that has been a common thing now you mention it

[crisp heath]

What ships are commonly used and which ones would be considered rare and usually would require lore explanation for someone to have access to them

[fervent geode]

Thank

[fervent geode]

I think Glorianas are a big one

Only 23 were made iirc

[vagrant fox]

I had a big chart of common imperial vessels somewhere but it seems to have vanished

[fervent geode]

Oh damn

[dapper gyro]

Use the search bar then type "ship size".

Dilara pasted it all over the place.

[fervent geode]

Well the Despoiler and Abyss class must be off the table for obvious reasons

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1242142947458420786/db6xezl-5a793fc0-6a1b-4648-ae06-0ddead7030c5.png?ex=699fc384&is=699e7204&hm=6ed55da6db5a06c9a9817168abd8f209ffa96772de6e578d4272de00bb1b6282&

Yeah this one

She did post it all over the place

[vagrant fox]

Here I was looking through my mess

[crisp heath]

Oh I see

Kinda helps ig

[vagrant fox]

Roughly bigger = rarer

You can look them up on the lexi and see more

[fervent geode]

This helps me too lol

[heady rivet]

Okay so thats somewhat easy because they largely are just the WW1-era British Navy in space. So from big to small its simply:

Battleships
Grand Cruisers
Battle Cruisers
Cruisers
Light Cruiser
THEN they use the term "Escort" to refer to both Frigates and Destroyers. Frigates being larger, destroyers being the smallest warp-capable combat vessels the Imperium uses

Within all these categories are the different classes of ship, which determines its specific role and arms. For example the Sword-class Frigate, which is a Frigate built and armed in a different way to the Firestorm-class Frigate

[vagrant fox]

The Mourningstar in Darktide is a Firestorm class, look at that tiny thing

[fervent geode]

Ah many thanks, of course it would be British Navy sizes

[heady rivet]

As with any 40k, It Depends. Generally the Cruisers are the backbone of the Imperial Navy, and there's like a bajillion Sword-class Frigates around. But some classes were either rarely built or plain shit. Basically the larger a ship gets the rarer it tends to be though

[crisp heath]

Aint glorianas made for the primarchs? Like most of them were "retired" after the heresy

[fervent geode]

One day it just passes by Macragge's Honour lmfao

[last stone]

What class is the rogue trader again?

[vagrant fox]

Yeah more or less

[fervent geode]

Yeah but some legions had more somehow

[crisp heath]

Makes sense
It's because I was wondering on how many ships my homebrew stuff could have and which ones I could just write on them having it and which one I could have to explain because of their rarity

[heady rivet]

The Von Valancius dynasty uses a Sword-class, Firestorm optional with the deluxe edition of the game

[vagrant fox]

For the game you can pick sword, falchion, or firestorm frigate

[fervent geode]

For example the WB had two
Fidelitas Lex (Lorgar's Flagship)
Chronicle of Ashes (got stolen)

[last stone]

Wait, you can pick ship classes???

[vagrant fox]

Depends on being a founder and/or having DLC I forget

[heady rivet]

Purely cosmetic in-game

[crisp heath]

imagine getting an entire legion sized ship stolen

Lowkey deserve it

[fervent geode]

The Dark Angels had three i think
Invincible Reason (Lion's)
Truth's Razor (Kaboomed)
Paradigm of Hate (Crashed i think)

[last stone]

I'm pretty sure I parked it here somewhere

[fervent geode]

Blud the Nemesis Destroyers did it

[vagrant fox]

being tonnage-cucked in Rogue Trader is the greatest crime against my Rogue Trader sensibilities I deserve a grand cruiser

[crisp heath]

Makes sense

[fervent geode]

The Nemesis Chapter still has it btw

[heady rivet]

It also depends on the age. Grand Cruisers are basically all old as shit because the Imperium largely stopped building such a niche ship

[fervent geode]

Just the one random chapter with a Gloriana

[last stone]

I demand the phalanx, only that is big enough for my ego

[heady rivet]

They planned on it, but had to cut it

[crisp heath]

I was thinking of writing of my warband having a rare type of battle ship because they stole it from a loyalist chapter and then modified it a lot and just made it a monstrous daemonship

[fervent geode]

The Imperial Fists had two i think
Eternal Crusader
Dorn's Boat

[last stone]

Space hulks are becoming a recurring item in the novels

[crisp heath]

Basically if they have it it has history or represents status
Like a relic of some sort

[fervent geode]

Its not called dorns boat

Cant remember the name

[last stone]

Dorns boat😂

[crisp heath]

boat

[dapper gyro]

Most 1st founding SM will materialize one of those big ship from somewhere anyhow.

[fervent geode]

Ah yes the Burden of Duty

[heady rivet]

As for Chaos ships, the funny part is that entire Classes of ship fall to Chaos. For the visual difference on tabletop, Chaos ships had wider keels. Implying that wider beams are ontologically evil

[fervent geode]

Not Dorn's Boat

[fervent geode]

Well known fact that carriers and big beams are evil

[dapper gyro]

Dorn's boat sound fitting for the IF.

[fervent geode]

Actually yeah

[vagrant fox]

You can why not, you have any excuse as a warband

[fervent geode]

It does

[heady rivet]

Yeah basically. Imperial ships tend to be old as, especially larger ones. Basically every other Battleship has been around for thousands of years

[arctic talon]

The imperium is way more likely to salvage a dead ship and fix it

Then to make a new one

It goes faster

[last stone]

Wecycle

[fervent geode]

The Sons of Horus had:
Vengeful Spirit
Magna Tyrannis
The Alpha Legion had:
Alpha
Beta

[arctic talon]

Ship got split in half by torpedos?

[dapper gyro]

Salamander has a bs ship with the strongest forward laser/plasma cannon of the imperium if I recall correctly.

[arctic talon]

No problem

[vagrant fox]

Guilliman tried to stop it with chaos tainted vessels but I'm not sure how succsesful it is

[last stone]

Best names, alpha beta

[fervent geode]

Flamewrought iirc

[arctic talon]

What do you think

[heady rivet]

Downside is it might be haunted but thats just something you accept in the Imperial Navy

[crisp heath]

If thick = evil

[last stone]

Ship 1, and ship 2

[fervent geode]

Got blown up at Isstvan or stolen by the WB for Calth

[fervent geode]

The Not Creative Legion

[vagrant fox]

Maybe, just maybe, the admech would listen to someone telling them no

[fervent geode]

Led by 1st and Last

[crisp heath]

That's interesting

[vagrant fox]

as if

[arctic talon]

The answer is no they’re still doing it

💀

[vagrant fox]

Yeah I just don't have any examples of them ignoring the decree, naturally they'd just raspberry him and keep doing it

[fervent geode]

Wouldnt be the admech otherwise

[rose thorn]

i might change my knight house symvol to a dragonfly...

[fervent geode]

Hey just realised

The 3rd Dark Angel Gloriana is unaccounted for

Truth's Razor

[heady rivet]

Even worse is that the Imperium doesnt like carriers that much due to doctrine, but crunch-wise had better carriers and worse battleships. Chaos doctrine loves carriers but crunch-wise had worse carriers and better battleships

[vagrant fox]

Lexicanum really has a list for everything

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Navy_Vessels_(List)#Battleships_2

thanks world of warships

[fervent geode]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Gloriana_Class_Battleship

[last stone]

How so

[fervent geode]

Lmfao

[heady rivet]

Also machine spirits of ships are very strong, so ships end up with personalities. Rogue Trader has tables for determining if your ship is skittish, paranoid, adventurous, etc

[fervent geode]

If anyone wants a boat the size of uh a long thing

[crisp heath]

[crisp heath]

Yeah that part I knew
The way I understand is the bigger the machine is the more complex the machine spirit is going to be
As if like, bolters are rabid animals, titans are pretty sentient but still limited to some emotions and thoughts and ships are almost complete beings

[rose thorn]

either draw a dragonfly int eh style of a medieval dragon sketch or just straight up put a dragonfly

[last stone]

Yeah, but why the change of heart? Would it fit them better or just be cool?

[heady rivet]

Imperial doctrine is big long rows of ships with big guns firing huge broadsides. Chaos likes to lauch raids and run before anyone scary can show up. In the tabletop for a while, this was not reflected

[fervent geode]

Didn't the Imperium make the Despoiler Class as state of the art carriers

[rose thorn]

it would be better plus im in college for entomology

[fervent geode]

And all of them proceeded to fall to chaos

[rose thorn]

i am an apprentice to an entomologist rn lmao

[last stone]

Aaah you're an insect nerd😉

[rose thorn]

yes

honeslty

i might just copy this lmao

its a sick ass painting

[last stone]

Looks cool

[heady rivet]

Evil wide keels

[vagrant fox]

Yeah it was a carrier fighter, seems to have been more mainstay doctrine closer to 30k and moving to big guns shooting bigly later

[fervent geode]

Shouldve known

[fervent geode]

Ah, mustve been the chaos corruption from the lingering influence of chaos primarch naval doctrine

[rose thorn]

uhh do medieval drawings have copy rights on them?

[vagrant fox]

Naturally, carriers and wide keels invite heresy

[fervent geode]

Idts

[fervent geode]

Who tf can claim em

[fervent geode]

IoM shouldve known smh

Average Imperial Incompetence

[languid meadow]

copyright law has only really existed for like

[vagrant fox]

I reckon it's been more than 70 or whatever years since they were drawn

[languid meadow]

2 centuries

[rose thorn]

the king of england i guess lmao

[rose thorn]

yet disney owns a copy right on snow white lmao

[fervent geode]

Too busy dealing with his disgusting brother

[languid meadow]

well disney is fucking evil

[fervent geode]

Go for it

[languid meadow]

don't they hold the copyright to their version? and not the original fairy tale

[fervent geode]

Yeah this is it iirc

[vagrant fox]

The original Brother Grimms Snow White is public domain

[rose thorn]

their version is bascially a 1 to 1 copy of the orignal wihtout the violence lmao

[fervent geode]

The Brothers Grimm prob cant sue you

[crisp heath]

Huh, that's funny...
So basically Chaos just overall avoids void battles because of Imperium's overwhelming number of ships

[languid meadow]

I don't even know if the brothers grimm estate even exists anymore

[rose thorn]

you gotta include the eyeballs getting picked out or else you are in hot water

[vagrant fox]

It hurts my ass so bad that Disney took folk tales and copyrighted so much of them

[fervent geode]

Yeah you'd need a organised fleet to fight em that way

[languid meadow]

godzilla enters public domain soon

[fervent geode]

Hope the forest people come for them

[vagrant fox]

They tend to be smaller and less organized and with worse supplies and logistics, they gotta get in fast and out fast. Usually they can

[rose thorn]

oh is that why they ahve only been making king kong movies?

[languid meadow]

no

[rose thorn]

oh

[heady rivet]

Outside of Black Crusades, the supply lines of Chaos are a mess

[languid meadow]

it's just for story reasons they're doing that since kong and godzilla for legendary are in the same universe

[rose thorn]

ive seen like the 2 first new kingkong movies and they were uh

not great

it wa sliek king kong and king kong skull island

[languid meadow]

the original godzilla enters public domain in 2032

[fervent geode]

I mean only like two CSM legions actually still exist lmao so yeh

[vagrant fox]

It really wouldn't surprise me if even in Black Crusades a bunch have to loot and acquire ammo and whatnot by any means they can

[rose thorn]

"today we are gonna give a giant gorilla a fallout 4 power fist and release it into this ecosystem that houses dinosuars"

[fervent geode]

Prob, its just all the warbands that make up the Black Legion bumrushing

[languid meadow]

I think the monsterverse movies are pretty great

[crisp heath]

I see, so usually void battles for chaos are almost the same strategy they use in land combat
Hit fast, get out, rinse and repeat

[languid meadow]

all of them really

but that's because I love when godzilla is silly

[fervent geode]

Yup

[rose thorn]

i didnt like them but also i watch like, cowboy movies, kamen rider, and romances

[languid meadow]

this is how I felt going from godzilla minus one to GxK

[rose thorn]

lmao

[vagrant fox]

Yeah it tends to be trouble if the Imperium can organize a response to the situation unless it's a big dick warband/legion

[crisp heath]

How uncommon is it be for warbands to have enough numbers/supplies to not really rely on hit-and-runs?
Probably the bog ones like the Red Corsairs, Word Bearers and Black Legions but still

[rose thorn]

the king kong stuff was fun but i cannot remmeber a single human cahracter beisdes the blonde scientist because she looks like my mom and saw her in other movoies

and the like, elevator

[fervent geode]

If they have a legion backing them maybe

[crisp heath]

Ah I see, so pretty much the average warband just purely rely on hit and runs due to circumstances

[fervent geode]

But even the more well stocked warbands need to raid to survive

[vagrant fox]

In the last two CSM novels I read getting past the local defences/a sisters of battle ship was a lot of trouble and got a lot killed

[rose thorn]

sorry its was Kong and Kong skull island

[fervent geode]

Lmao NL and WB shenanigans

[languid meadow]

yeah and tbf even the monsterverse movies realize people don't care for the human characters too much, that's why the latest ones have been focusing less and less on them

[crisp heath]

Can imagine why

[rose thorn]

oh good

[vagrant fox]

Absolutely, the goofiest guys

[crisp heath]

Chaos gotta be very creative when coming up with plans to do offensive strikes against Imperial forces

[rose thorn]

wait i ,, think i thought kong skull island was 2 differnet moveis lmao

[fervent geode]

Indeed

Until the Abby Party at least

[rose thorn]

god it released almsot 10 years ago

[crisp heath]

damn
Even on ground battles? Harsh

[heady rivet]

Plus the "economy" of the eye. Dark Mechanicum worlds want slaves and resources, and "sell" Daemonic weaponry, gear, etc. Or they distribute them for free for their God(s), etc

[rose thorn]

everyone excited for dark admech to be an HH only faction

[fervent geode]

The only legions that function are the Tsons, DG and WB

[heady rivet]

The Eye of Terror is Ancapistan

[fervent geode]

So uh ye

[heady rivet]

Or the Dark Mechanicum, specifically

[fervent geode]

Ancap Hell Forge

[crisp heath]

Hell nah

[rose thorn]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/q0qhnrpr/heraldry-of-the-dark-mechanicum-part-one/

tbf these symvols kinda bop

[crisp heath]

Makes sense
Well that makes my homebrew lore a little harder to explain how they have so much power

[vagrant fox]

Man I sure hope chaos is going to be fun in tww40k whenever that overpriced DLC comes out

[rose thorn]

40 dollars for a space marine reskin

watch space wolves get dlc before CSM

[vagrant fox]

They could just be successful, there's some warbands out there doing well for themselves

[languid meadow]

Skull island was the monsterverse one and King Kong (2005) is the percy jackson one

[crisp heath]

That makes sense

[languid meadow]

with the bugs

[rose thorn]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

ohHHhHhH

[languid meadow]

and andy getting eaten byt htem

[rose thorn]

lmao

okay that makes more sense

god am i old?

(22)

[languid meadow]

I turn 22 this year

vomit

[rose thorn]

i turn 23 this year

[heady rivet]

Big galaxy, whose to say some Chaos mini-empire isnt out there? I mean, we know about the Blood Pact and that was almost fully mortals

[rose thorn]

7 more years unitl tiwnk death

[fervent geode]

Maybe they just robbed a lot of places/made a good deal with huron or abbadon

[rose thorn]

/j

[vagrant fox]

I remember being 22

[crisp heath]

That's pretty much the idea
The entire warband almost got wiped years back before being saved by sheer luck and then the current leadership started to lead it to current peakest of the entire warbands history

[fervent geode]

Yeah defo

There was an EC novel where they just held a planet

[spring cairn]

ppl who call themselves old at 22 STFU

[rose thorn]

adn its the only good one

[vagrant fox]

There's probably a bunch in Imperium Nihilus tbf

[spring cairn]

i am 25 soon i'm literallt dead

[rose thorn]

out of all the EC hh novels

[fervent geode]

Its not a HH novel

[rose thorn]

what lmao

[fervent geode]

Lords of Excess

[rose thorn]

nvm i thoght he was talking abotu fulgrim

[fervent geode]

Oh Fulgrim

[heady rivet]

Was that the same novel where two EC are like "Y'know I sorta miss saving people like this"

[rose thorn]

oh lords of excess sucks lmao

[rose thorn]

was it fulgrim or son of the pheonix that was the good one?

[crisp heath]

They've worked with both Huron and Abaddon for a while but they're pretty isolated from the rest of 40k universe cause they come from a pretty far away sector which the entirety of the Imperium still considers wild space

Just a few select Imperial forces live around there and they sure look for reasons to NOT be there

[fervent geode]

Oh yeah they saved the place from a GSC iirc

[fervent geode]

Both were aight

According to an EC friend

I mean i never read SoTP

Fulgrim was a slow burn but ok

Maraviglia was fire

[rose thorn]

fuck ther eis gsc?? id have to read it uhg

[fervent geode]

Sounds like a plan

[vagrant fox]

Yeah why not it's your warband, if it brings you joy. There's far fewer constraints on warbands

[rose thorn]

i have to read it

[fervent geode]

Its funny

The saved the place from GSC

Then they had to run coz nids came

[vagrant fox]

there's a god damn pidgeon trying to break my window

[rose thorn]

so they didnt save anythign lmao

[fervent geode]

Well if my friend wasnt a liar

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/under-new-management-more-like-under-new-management-megamind-megamind-meme-jokez-da-joke-gif-19867663

[fervent geode]

Bru they are EC

[crisp heath]

I just wanted to still keep it "lore grounded"
Was mid writing their stuff when I stopped and went "oh I'm going overboard"

[fervent geode]

Basically ts but everyone is naked ig

[fervent geode]

Challenge it to a duel

[vagrant fox]

It's just looking at me while I'm calling it names I think it'll kill me

[vagrant fox]

As long as you don't overshadow the big chaos legions and warbands I doubt most would care

[crisp heath]

That's fair I guess, just wanted to still keep them reasonably strong

I don't even plan to write them being evolved in 40k canon stuff around some mentions of places, events and some characters

Like "oh yeah they were there around the black crusades to work for Abaddon but never even saw him"

Basically just shadows in the big part of things

[vagrant fox]

also reasonable, it's more or less how I've approached all my chaos characters in ttrpgs when I've played Black Crusade if they were that old

The closest my World Eater ever got to Angron was when he was buried under a small mound of corpses and Angron ran over it to kill someone

[crisp heath]

Lmfao pretty similar to most eldar characters of my chaos characters

The closest my OC has ever gotten to like, Abaddon was when she saw him going to a transport vessel and that's it

And the only one who ever personally met Konrad Curze in the warband saw him once when he announced his death to the legion

And he's a dreadnought

[fervent geode]

My OC last saw Lorgar in 30k

[solid horizon]

MY FACTION MENTIONNED LETS GOOOO

[rose thorn]

Hey how knightly are questor mechanicus houses?

[languid meadow]

pretty sure they're just knights but pledge to the mechanicus

so like not much difference to other houses but being way closer to the mechanicus

[fervent geode]

Depends on the house afaik

House Malinax was the silent murderous type

[rose thorn]

Ah okay, I assumed a knight house who betrayed a forgewolrd and it’s titan legion

[rose thorn]

Would then be more imperial

[fervent geode]

Malinax are traitors twin

Imperial houses ehhh

House Vornherr is knightly from i what remember

Like in behaviour

[languid meadow]

The main difference is that imperial houses follow the imperial truth while QMs follow the cult mechanicus

[fervent geode]

Oh fuck

[languid meadow]

they're also less automatous

[fervent geode]

Only Malinax is QM House

[rose thorn]

So imperialis is better yay

[languid meadow]

depends

[rose thorn]

For my house I mean

[fervent geode]

Sure yeah, but iirc they don't come with Titan Legios

[languid meadow]

both their nobels and commoners are the same basically besides more smog

[fervent geode]

Afaik at least

[solid horizon]

arent all knights built by the mechanicus anyways

[languid meadow]

yeah all QM houses are usually attached to a titan legion

[fervent geode]

Yes but not all live on a crappy forgeworld

[rose thorn]

A majority predate the imperium

[languid meadow]

unlike imperial houses where they can just go wherever unless they pledge to a group

[fervent geode]

Like House Devine or House Ærthegn

[languid meadow]

they're like titans where like

90% are older than the imperium

[fervent geode]

All new knights are made by the admech

Many oldies are DAoT

[languid meadow]

some do get made just most of the ones you'll see are old

but yeah the admech have made new knight models

[solid horizon]

kinda silly for an unit so often employed

[languid meadow]

well that's the imperium for you

[solid horizon]

imperium sux