starts flying 😭
#40k-lore-chat
celest cedar
jade holly
Hinduism
rocky gale
Fair
celest dome
Islam and Judaism ?
jade holly
I’ll never understand Megachurches lmao
opaque coyote
Hinduism
Buddhism has multiple gods
daring creek
I’ll never understand Megachurches lmao
money.
urban spire
shinto has always been japan exclusive, though it's kinda been in a sorry state since ww2
and that's not entirely america's fault
opaque coyote
Basically Christianity is unique in that it's the only religion with one God
urban spire
fascism fucks you up and hollows out your culture
jade holly
I met a guy once on Discord who still worshipped Greek gods. Not gonna mock or joke about him just found it interesting
rocky gale
You know what, that's on me for having a Eurocentric world view. But in the Western world when you talk about popular religions, it's Christianity (and all it's denominations), Islam and Judaism.
celest dome
Basically Christianity is unique in that it's the only religion with one God
Islam and Judaism though
celest cedar
I’ll never understand Megachurches lmao
I mean its normal churches receiving more and more funding (through rich christians especially) and lost pastors realized they care more about gaining it over actually giving proper service 💀
opaque coyote
shinto has always been japan exclusive, though it's kinda been in a sorry state ...
Tbf as somebody who tried to study it
The thing is literally just vibes
arctic talon
Basically Christianity is unique in that it's the only religion with one God
there's a lot of monotheistic religons
they just all died out
the Abrahamic faiths are the dominant one
opaque coyote
there's a lot of monotheistic religons
Yeah I'm aware
Mostly referring to the context of modern day
urban spire
it used ot have a lot more pull
arctic talon
IT STILL LIVES ON
jade holly
You know what, that's on me for having a Eurocentric world view. But in the West...
I mean if you wanna be technical we have 3 main figures, the Father Son and Holy Spirit. Technically all reflections of one God but technically you could argue it’s polytheistic
arctic talon
Zoroastrianism is the oldest known monotheistic religon to survive
opaque coyote
I mean if you wanna be technical we have 3 main figures, the Father Son and Holy...
I mean then Hinduism is technically just
Monotheistic
urban spire
zoroastrianism is kinda cool
opaque coyote
Since every God is a fragment of
arctic talon
well arguably its uh
opaque coyote
The one true God
jade holly
Monotheistic
You talking about Vishnu and his avatars?
arctic talon
but Its monotheistic enough imo
celest dome
I mean if you wanna be technical we have 3 main figures, the Father Son and Holy...
THey're different aspect of the same god, which usually mean it still is monotheistic
jade holly
Cause Hinduism has the Trimurti
jade holly
THey're different aspect of the same god, which usually mean it still is monothe...
Yeah but that’s why I emphasized the technically part if you really wanna play the semantics game
urban spire
if you try to convert to zoroastrianism, they'll be like "no it's fine, god made all the religions, just seek out whatever's local to you, it's good enough"
celest cedar
if you try to convert to zoroastrianism, they'll be like "no it's fine, god made...
this is kinda like islam (at least to abrahamic religions)
they see other abrahamic religions as being previous interpretations before the one true religion and prophet arrives
urban spire
islam is not opposed to conversions though
celest cedar
to Islam then yes 💀
urban spire
historically has been pretty proactive about obtaining converts in fact
opaque coyote
You talking about Vishnu and his avatars?
There's a trio which are major parts from Brahman. Which is essentially the universe itself to oversimplify it.
Brahma The Creator
Shiva The Destroyer
Vishnu The Preserver
Every further God is a fragment of them.
jade holly
There's a trio which are major parts from Brahman. Which is essentially the univ...
Ok then Yeah the technical semantic argument could be given there
urban spire
see that's what i mean when i say polytheism is a meaningless term
opaque coyote
There are approximately 333 million Gods
celest cedar
like theres a passage of punishing anyone thats left islam (through conversion or otherwise) and has been used to target formerly non muslims
urban spire
it covers too much
jade holly
thought you were just talking about it Vishnu and his 10 avatars
celest cedar
I should stop xd
opaque coyote
There are approximately 333 million Gods
Jesus in some Hinduism denominations
Is considered a God
Technically Hinduism doesn't deny any religion
urban spire
denying other religions is a distinctly abrahamic trait
opaque coyote
denying other religions is a distinctly abrahamic trait
Even then, a lot of Abrahamic religions adopted from others
Judaism was first
Then Christianity
Then Islam
Islam thinks that the others are just unfinished
daring creek
religion talk? in my darktide? it's more common than you think
opaque coyote
Christianity thinks Islam is fanfic and Judaism is unfinished
Judaism thinks that the other two are fanfic and that they're still waiting for a true prophet
daring creek
i see
jade holly
religion talk? in my darktide? it's more common than you think
You mean we discuss religion in the server where the lore involved a massive civil war over religion?
opaque coyote
You mean we discuss religion in the server where the lore involved a massive civ...
And also is heavily based off of religion
urban spire
the imperial cult in 40k could stand to have some competition, frankly
i'd love if there were significant non-imperium human factions
opaque coyote
the imperial cult in 40k could stand to have some competition, frankly
Yeah the Imperial Cult is meant to have so much variation
opaque coyote
With them worshipping the Emperor in many different ways
I would honestly love to see more extreme variations
And conflicts from it
jade holly
I would honestly love to see more extreme variations
More extreme than the BT?
daring creek
And also is heavily based off of religion
The thing I don't understand is people who say 40k isn't truly representative of what religion is.
celest cedar
And conflicts from it
welcome back sunni/shia split
urban spire
Yeah the Imperial Cult is meant to have so much variation
yeah but that shit's based on Dune in a really lame way
jade holly
40k’s imperium represents when total authoritarian rule and religion are truly melded into one
opaque coyote
More extreme than the BT?
I mean some believe the Emperor was a sun god, a woman, a warrior god, something similar to Yahweh, etc.
daring creek
The religious zeal really isn't an exaggeration or over the top
urban spire
pretty often actually
daring creek
its quite a realistic depiction
jade holly
To me religion has always been a personal journey, places of worship are merely places for folks of that religion to congregate
opaque coyote
The thing I don't understand is people who say 40k isn't truly representative of...
It is and isn't at the same time.
It isn't in terms of what Religions try to do. Since all of their rules have a form of
"DON'T BE ASSHOLES"
celest cedar
The religious zeal really isn't an exaggeration or over the top
me with my overly fanatical and super religious muslim grandma
opaque coyote
It is in terms of the conflicts and human evils with religion as an excuse
celest cedar
like 40K aint exaggeration of fanatical zealotry when I unfortunately have an example at home 😭
opaque coyote
It is and isn't at the same time.
It isn't in terms of what Religions try to do...
Since it's worth noting that most religions, if we don't get into deep detail, in the end want people to stop fighting like idiots and be kind to each other.
The Imperial Cult uh
daring creek
people will literally bend over backwards and do as much mental gymnastics as possible to justify the actions of their god because everything he does has to be good because god is good! god is great! I hate it so much!
opaque coyote
Doesn't even do that
opaque coyote
Doesn't even do that
Like it literally encourages people to be as violent as possible
daring creek
like 40K aint exaggeration of fanatical zealotry when I unfortunately have an ex...
I have several family members who are deeply brainrotted as well
opaque coyote
Which is the opposite of what a lot of religions try to do
Aka: Stop people from being assholes
Emphasis on try
urban spire
40k is kinda shallow in how it presents religion, it's true
daring creek
people will literally bend over backwards and do as much mental gymnastics as po...
I hate is a lot because it encourages those to be entirely uncritical of their god
Everything has to be good
urban spire
there's a very strong tradition in judaism of being deeply critical of god
opaque coyote
I hate is a lot because it encourages those to be entirely uncritical of their g...
It is their one truth for some religions.
And if their one truth contradicts itself then what does that mean of the truth?
daring creek
Nono bro, that child getting diagnosed with cancer is apart of his grand plan bro just trust me
opaque coyote
It's much easier to believe that you are wrong
And that the truth is still the truth
Rather than not being the truth
urban spire
Nono bro, that child getting diagnosed with cancer is apart of his grand plan *b...
infants born with aids are actually a challenge from god. to. somebody. maybe to you huh? did you ever think of that? maybe you're failing gods test right now
opaque coyote
there's a very strong tradition in judaism of being deeply critical of god
I find it funny that the Torah can essentially be summarized as an ancient Religious forum.
daring creek
I strongly dislike how following a religion is seen as virtous as well
like congratulations you worship your imagination yipee
opaque coyote
like congratulations you worship your imagination yipee
It isn't imagination to them
daring creek
why are churches excempt from taxes
daring creek
It isn't imagination to them
neither are the unicorns in my moms head
sorry I just put up with idiots
jade holly
Alright i think we’re starting to go in a direction I’d rather not go
opaque coyote
Fair enough
urban spire
very few things are real, despite what materialists will tell you
celest cedar
opaque coyote
very few things are real, despite what materialists will tell you
For all we know, the universe could've been created last Tuesday and everything else was literally created with it
Including your memories of there being something else
daring creek
what we really need to know is, what is gods favorite pony
opaque coyote
Reality is a weird thing
jade holly
My experience with religion has made me view Christianity in this way:
God’s not dictating our fate and moves every single minute of every single day. We have free will ever since Adam and Eve.
opaque coyote
what we really need to know is, what is gods favorite pony
Unicorns
daring creek
pinkie pie
opaque coyote
My experience with religion has made me view Christianity in this way:
God’s not...
Good thing because I wouldn't want God to see me jork it
arctic talon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938801312412368916/1466174559601295514/to...
Good image
urban spire
My experience with religion has made me view Christianity in this way:
God’s not...
depends, calvinists don't see it that way
celest cedar
arctic talon
jade holly
depends, calvinists don't see it that way
Yeah you could argue every single aspect about what God does or doesn’t do from any and all angles. We could either be all right, all wrong or something in between
celest cedar
Good image
gender inclusive language
arctic talon
gender inclusive language
Do you think pocket hugs their giant frog
Briefcase filled with unspeakable power
its frogs
What did ice frog mean by this
urban spire
don't want to know what pocket does with their frog quite frankly
celest cedar
the McGuffin is real
urban spire
shouts out to the bug that gets the frog stuck in that animation
arctic talon
It looks huggable
opaque coyote
The main Purrwer source
Had a horrific idea of sorts
celest cedar
opaque coyote
Basically had the idea of an inquisitor having a gaming PC basically
But because 40k
What would be the best CPU source?
A human brain
celest cedar
The creature
flattest face this side of Valve Deadlock 2024
opaque coyote
...
So yeah I planned to have like a head be just
Inside the pc
With like fans on the sides
arctic talon
That’s just a cogitator
opaque coyote
Acting as a "cooler"
opaque coyote
That’s just a cogitator
Yeah basically.
Also was gonna have a gag where like
urban spire
don't like pocket. poverty tourist ass mf
arctic talon
Ngl I wonder if they’ll ever change pockets reload animation
opaque coyote
The Tech Priest basically installed it incorrectly
daring creek
💀 💀
jade holly
So it still has its vocal cords
Screams everytime it boots up
opaque coyote
It screams in agony
arctic talon
So everytime it powers on
LOL
jade holly
lmao
urban spire
that's weak, my computer already does that and it has NO vocal cords
opaque coyote
Like it's just the equivalent of the fans being too loud
I also imagined it screaming louder when he boots up a game or something
Along with fan noises
arctic talon
that's weak, my computer already does that and it has NO vocal cords
Have you checked for any growths, I heard they do that sometimes
urban spire
so like, did they hook the head up so the fans blow through their throat or did they also put lungs in there?
opaque coyote
boots up Crysis
"AAAAASAASAAAASAAA-
opaque coyote
so like, did they hook the head up so the fans blow through their throat or did ...
Thought of there being an oxygen system of sorts
That act as lungs
Because the brain needs oxygen to function
But smaller lungs because it doesn't need to fuel like
celest cedar
don't like pocket. poverty tourist ass mf
I mean he got his daddy ordering a hit on him tbf so theres room for slack 💀
opaque coyote
Every other part of the body
celest cedar
FUCK
opaque coyote
Just the head
urban spire
I mean he got his daddy ordering a hit on him tbf so theres room for slack 💀
he his
jade holly
To the corpse starch machine
celest cedar
everyone makes the same mistake too when they dont see the bio 💀
like
this is a community wide problem 💀
arctic talon
lol
urban spire
arctic talon
Do you think pocket has siblings
celest cedar
also theres nothing to indicate the non binary on them (I know everyone is different)
besides the bio that is
urban spire
yeah i mean
there's no real characteristic of enbies
they can present however they like, shit's busted
oh except the name though
pockets? come on
or pocket, whatever, idr
opaque coyote
so like, did they hook the head up so the fans blow through their throat or did ...
But in general.
To give a shitty approximation of my imagination
urban spire
incredible
opaque coyote
The square around it's neck is basically the motherboard
urban spire
you should do that professionally
jade holly
But in general.
To give a shitty approximation of my imagination
Turns on Cogitator What do you see?
Wires.. so… many… wires
celest cedar
Do you think pocket has siblings
if they did daddy Fairfax wouldve had em go try to kill eachother before they were 16
daring creek
this is a community wide problem 💀
Sorry Malarkey, we have to skin you alive now
celest cedar
no
daring creek
lies
urban spire
listen to 500 episodes of trash future in penance
jade holly
Sentenced to watch Alex Jones
urban spire
i don't think there's a nonbinary person on trash future, pretend i said kill james bond
daring creek
ok that might be funny
arctic talon
pockets? come on
Tbf their actual chosen name is Arin
daring creek
you work at a donut shop
arctic talon
Pocket is just a pseudonym they’re living under so daddy doesn’t try to get someone to put another bullet in em
urban spire
listen the purpose of a system is what it does
arctic talon
Lol
urban spire
the purpose of a horse is to fatally maim a boeing employee
urban spire
warden makes no fucking sense to me
the least aesthetically cohesive character in that game
celest cedar
yeah
feel like the drip he got going on
conflicts with the backstory he has and the characterization 💀
urban spire
why does he look like a old timey cop
why does he throw a potion
why does his ult make him
celest cedar
is he a neon prime leftover
arctic talon
the least aesthetically cohesive character in that game
Not done yet
arctic talon
He used to be a robot cop
urban spire
he's been not done for a while
celest cedar
arctic talon
And paradox
urban spire
yamato still makes sense, so does grampa
celest cedar
mmm I wish we had the yamato redesign faster
lament shoal
The horse in question
celest cedar
I fw that 4th picture alot
urban spire
oh buddy
urban spire
The horse in question
are you fully aware of the thing i was referencing
because that's really fucking funny
lament shoal
are you fully aware of the thing i was referencing
Nah I just saw you talking about a horse maiming a boeing employee and soley went off of that
urban spire
Nah I just saw you talking about a horse maiming a boeing employee and soley wen...
i was talkin about ||mr hands||
urban spire
LOL
anyway most of the leftover character designs still make visual sense even if they do sometimes look kinda dogshit
warden looks like they built him out of the leftovers bucket
arctic talon
He was a robot cop so yeah lol
celest cedar
viscous gun also just dont make sense
arctic talon
It’s leftover from when viscous was mecha pufferfish
urban spire
he's a psychic sea anemone now isnt he
arctic talon
Yeah
jade holly
viscous `gun` also just dont make sense
Isn’t that Kelvin’s gun model?
urban spire
makes sense
celest cedar
Isn’t that Kelvin’s gun model?
afaik yes
arctic talon
Isn’t that Kelvin’s gun model?
Yeah but they were connected lore wise before I’d assume
celest cedar
i think same animation
arctic talon
Same criminal group or same gun they modified
urban spire
also like
jade holly
I wanna see the Troubadour as a character one day
celest cedar
urban spire
why are there so many women with masc chests in deadlock
celest cedar
celest cedar
why are there so many women with masc chests in deadlock
which one 💀
mcginnis is just like
some fat and muscle
silver is just your average female body build that rpg games use
arctic talon
Prolly reusing the seven model or neon prime assets to build on for now
urban spire
sinclair silver vyper and ivy
celest cedar
sinclair silver vyper and ivy
vyper is still unfinished
arctic talon
Ivy is a gargoyle
jade holly
Ivy is a stone gargoyle brought to life no?
celest cedar
ivy is intended to be that way becaues she a gargoyle
arctic talon
Yeah
urban spire
i've seen the previews of the next version she's still got no boobs
daring creek
why does his ult make him
Thats a startrek shirt
celest cedar
sinclair I would assume they're gonna get a redesign
celest cedar
i've seen the previews of the next version she's still got no boobs
I mean you dont need boobs to signify female
ti can work
urban spire
no yeah i mean i get that
jade holly
sinclair I would assume they're gonna get a redesign
I know nothing about Sinclair besides Sinclair apparently wants a divorce or something?
arctic talon
Sinclair is 2 people in one body
urban spire
but i specifically mean the chest looks masc
urban spire
and yeah there's a good reason for why they're like that for all of them (excepty silver)
arctic talon
Savannah isn’t aside from the voice
urban spire
but there's four of them
arctic talon
Silver is likely reusing sevens modeling
As a base for now
She shared a bunch of animations with him
Initially
urban spire
i mean this
arctic talon
i mean this
Oh yeah idk
celest cedar
i mean this
oh you mean the werewolf form ok
arctic talon
For werewolf form
celest cedar
I mean
arctic talon
might be reused from neon prime lol
celest cedar
how does fem wolves look irl xd
arctic talon
We know there were werewolves
urban spire
i did not have anything to say about it until they added silver
jade holly
And shiv was a weremonkey
That explains that part but why Elvis?
urban spire
shiv looks like an 80s anime protagonist
urban spire
he's kinda perfect
arctic talon
He’s keeping the hair and arm tho lol
arctic talon
he's kinda perfect
I agree tbh
arctic talon
Also anyone notice how all the Baxter society members are missing an arm
jade holly
he just need a model refresh
Texture refresh maybe?
arctic talon
I wonder if they make you cut it off when you join💀
jade holly
Also anyone notice how all the Baxter society members are missing an arm
I sense a theme
urban spire
but yeah when they added a fourth female character with a masc chest because of special conditions it made me wonder if there's something going on
i don't know what that would be, i'm not implying anything, it's just a weird trend
arctic talon
i don't know what that would be, i'm not implying anything, it's just a weird tr...
Translock/j
rocky gale
https://fxtwitter.com/david_hugaev/status/2021027509060432221 I ship it
Silver X Celeste Is the only reasonable choice
jade holly
Logic dictates then the men will have… uhm… idk how to word it lmao
arctic talon
I do think it’s funny how neon prime was going to have an entire roster of horrific criminals or their descendents
But I like that Deadlock has much more variety lol
celest dome
Masc chest is probably for animation ease, only needing 1 skeleton
urban spire
Masc chest is probably for animation ease, only needing 1 skeleton
dog their skeletons are so unique
ivy's got six limbs!
languid meadow
https://fxtwitter.com/david_hugaev/status/2021027509060432221 I ship it
Glory to the bisexual werewolf
arctic talon
And now we have a roster of horrific criminals or their descendants
Look most of them aren’t criminals it’s only uhhh
jade holly
arctic talon
Uhhh 9 of them
Drifter, Seven, Wraith, Mo and Krill, Infernus, Yamato, Vyper, Geist and Calico
jade holly
Is Kelvin gonna get a remodel?
Cause I hear dialogue and people look at him like he’s a walking, decaying corpse
arctic talon
Vindicta and Grey Talon are also murderers but they’re killing terrorists so the verdict is out if you consider extra judicial murder of other murderers criminal
arctic talon
Is Kelvin gonna get a remodel?
Yes, but likely not heavily to his face
People know he’s a walking talking corpse bcs he died
He likely doesn’t look very dead ish
jade holly
I’ve been watching HoTS gameplay smh
Making me wanna play it despite that I can’t
Kel’thuzad and Stukov would be my mains
urban spire
Vindicta and Grey Talon are also murderers but they’re killing terrorists so the...
how do you feel about the CIA?
arctic talon
how do you feel about the CIA?
Unfortunately the government decides who’s a criminal or not so Haze is a government ordained murderer
jade holly
Haze when she sees an unemployed person: wanna job?
arctic talon
LOL
She hates the organization she’s working for but wants to get more people to join
Why is she like this lol
urban spire
dog i think there might be more governments
jade holly
Why is she like this lol
Misery loves company
urban spire
i think some of the laws might be international
arctic talon
dog i think there might be more governments
Yeah anyways the CIA murder people
And a chunk of it if not most of it is prolly not justifiable at all
arctic talon
urban spire
reckon the cia is a criminal org tho
vagrant fox
again with the deadlocks, I am persecuted for hating mobas
languid meadow
pretty much
urban spire
again with the deadlocks, I am persecuted for hating mobas
no i'm right there with you brother i can't stand that game
but the lesbians that live in my phone won't shut up about it
arctic talon
reckon the cia is a criminal org tho
Yeah I’d say they absolutely are with the things they’ve engaged
lol
The OSIC seems less evil then the CIA
Somehow
languid meadow
they seem less evil because things like DRIFTER AND SEVEN are running around
rocky gale
Tried Deadlock, played a couple games and genuinely just felt like I was doing nothing all game. Then went back to League
languid meadow
I can't tell if Drifter fears him or not
his dialogue with Holliday hints he does
arctic talon
Drifter gives me would “rather not meet him vibes” so I’d say yes
languid meadow
prob one of the longest lived vampires in the world is scared of him
arctic talon
At the very least concerned
languid meadow
Holliday is COOKED
arctic talon
Also whatever the hell the Baxter society fights is worse which is horrifying
If we take Shiv at face value
languid meadow
Considering cryptids in general are real (Infernus mentions Chupacabra like it's a people like werewolves) there are prob worse things out there than vampires
arctic talon
I do think it’s hilarious how Grey Talon says Lash could cut it in the Baxter society but will eventually die and end up as a skinless corpse in Portugal or Denmark
💀
urban spire
arctic talon
lol
winter pine
Vyper telling Lady Geist she wants a rich husband to kill and take the inheritance money from was kino
arctic talon
Vyper telling Lady Geist she wants a rich husband to kill and take the inheritan...
Tbh Vyper saying she’s going to mug Geist is also hilarious
She’s such a snake
Hope she gets a new model eventually rather then reuse a neon prime model
daring creek
Vyper telling Lady Geist she wants a rich husband to kill and take the inheritan...
valve knows the current gen I see
languid meadow
still my fav interaction
winter pine
I played TF2 nonstop from 2009 to about 2023 and I just can't enjoy it anymore
idk what it is
winter pine
Seems like there's not many community servers left
daring creek
still a good amount
hollow lantern
Tf2 is one of the only pvp games I still enjoy tbh
daring creek
i play on niche ones mostly
I used to play on a mlp tf2 server
now theres just mostly furry servers
skial
etc
I think im on the most active one
i dontknow how ppl discover this server lmao
celest cedar
Silver X Celeste Is the only reasonable choice
call it a bisexual throuple
winter pine
My favorite wacky niche one might have been XenoGamers' Trade Gaming History
daring creek
8k hours in tf2 as well
celest cedar
silver and ven being drinking fuckbuddies would be keeno
rose thorn
Why am I watching overwatch comp summaries and why are they Great
celest cedar
https://klipy.com/gifs/kray-tom-hardy
celest cedar
youre a goonbait shut up
winter pine
I think was peak tf2 for me
celest cedar
I remember some 14 years ago being a regular on a brony server
sacred bluff
urban spire
that's too fuckin pretty for 40k
paper haven
Make it ugly!
limpid granite
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209843216227368962/1473010000103215177/im...
shes got a good point
rose thorn
that's too fuckin pretty for 40k
Yea it needs the touch of the star children! C4 and purple spray paint!
paper haven
https://klipy.com/gifs/harry-potter-330
You heard em
celest cedar
https://klipy.com/gifs/harry-potter-330
so you know how people will call literally any character that shows even the slightest bit of skin goonbait
raven stone
Mutation sciences for your 40k fiction needs
https://www.sciencealert.com/dna-mutations-discovered-in-the-children-of-chernobyl-workers
celest cedar
because god forbid a skin is shown 💀
paper haven
By now it should be the grandchildren of Chernobyl workers
urban spire
dog it was 40 years ago
paper haven
Yeah. Those workers weren't born on the day of the disaster
rocky gale
So they'd be in their 60s now and likely have grandchildren
urban spire
it would have to be children they had since chernobyl
rocky gale
Yea but they were workers in their 20s, they then had kids after and those kids would likely be in their 30s now and have kids of their own
storm jungle
I cant believe mutants exist IRL.......
urban spire
yeah so they are testing the adults not a bunch of infants
storm jungle
I thought 40k made them up.......
rocky gale
yeah so they are testing the adults not a bunch of infants
Lame
arctic talon
urban spire
40k stole mutants from judge dredd
rocky gale
Gotta train them young so they can become mutant assassins
paper haven
40k stole a lot from judge dredd
languid meadow
I love the old reliable design choice for skitarii
"hmmm we need to make them slightly more varied"
"Oh I know! We'll make them digitigrade!"
arctic talon
"hmmm we need to make them slightly more varied"
"Oh I know! We'll make them dig...
It’s like the sicarians
It’s very fun
storm jungle
40k stole a lot from judge dredd
It literally took them until like 2 years ago to finally change how Arbites look from Dredd copies lmao
rose thorn
40k stole a lot from judge dredd
I got some news for you buddy, everything in 40K is stolen lol
solid horizon
40k stole a lot from judge dredd
I mean
winter pine
GW sending C&Ds to someone for making a fan animation after 30+ of just whole sale stealing from other media be like:
solid horizon
Both 2000 ad or whatever it's called and wh40k are british
winter pine
Literally the foundational skeleton of 40k is just Dune lmfao
arctic talon
Every great setting has theft
storm jungle
Both 2000 ad or whatever it's called and wh40k are british
40k literally stole most of the shit it has from 2000AD
arctic talon
Change my mind
arctic talon
It’s so rare anything completely original is good
hollow lantern
Change my mind
Good artists create, great artists steal.
arctic talon
Yeah
winter pine
great artists steal
solid horizon
Did you know Judge Dredd's name
opaque coyote
Literally the foundational skeleton of 40k is just Dune lmfao
Focus on melee weapons?
Dune.
The travel system?
Dune.
God-emperor actually being a disgusting, barely living thing?
Dune.
The only thing 40k hasn't stolen from Dune is the sandworms.
...I think
solid horizon
Comes from a white pornographic reggae singer
rose thorn
great artists steal
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness
storm jungle
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness
I wouldnt know
hides all my stolen ideas
arctic talon
Lol
Remember you can steal NCPD scanner gigs from 2077 for your cyberpunk red campaign
It’s free
opaque coyote
I think 40k popularized the Chainsword at least
rose thorn
Lmao
arctic talon
Yes
rose thorn
I think 40k popularized the Chainsword at least
I thoguht that was heartstone
opaque coyote
Now it's in every scifi setting
opaque coyote
Including 2077
rose thorn
oh fair
solid horizon
I think 40k popularized the Chainsword at least
Didn't fallout have one as well
winter pine
Including 2077
I think one of the 2020 books from the 1990s had chain weapons to be as pedantic as possible
arctic talon
I think one of the 2020 books from the 1990s had chain weapons to be as pedantic...
Warhammer 1e was in 87
So
winter pine
idk
opaque coyote
Didn't fallout have one as well
Yup which released in 1997
rose thorn
*hides all my stolen ideas*
Dw when ever there something I like I just copy it and dunk it into the dip from who framed Roger rabbit and mold it into a shape I like
opaque coyote
A decade after Warhammer
solid horizon
Chainswords suck as a concept tbh
opaque coyote
Chainswords suck as a concept tbh
I mean it's not meant to practicality
It's to send a message
arctic talon
Many such cases
solid horizon
Anyone who's used a chainsaw knows that shit is not meant to be swung around
opaque coyote
Anyone who's used a chainsaw knows that shit is not meant to be swung around
In 40k, humanity managed to make it so that it wouldn't unravel and slice you by accident
arctic talon
Ngl
opaque coyote
Ingenuity
opaque coyote
I would not trust a single weapon made by budget arms
I mean it's
arctic talon
In cyberpunk 2077
opaque coyote
In the name
arctic talon
Or RED
opaque coyote
Ngl I wish Cyberpunk 2077 didn't have like
The tier system it has
I feel like Budget Arms and similar weapons like it shouldn't be able to become a God gun
arctic talon
So sad my GOATs gunmart went out of business before 2077
They were even shittier then budget arms
I’m not joking
opaque coyote
Except Rebecca's Carnage of course.
Though to be fair, I think her gun is filled with black powder
rose thorn
Man I love writing warcriminals I should make more
opaque coyote
Her guns modified
Yeah that shit is filled with black powder with how far you get knocked back
I'm half convinced it's basically an advanced blunderbuss
rose thorn
My DM says I’m the perosn he trusts to be an edge lord in his campaigns 
so I will abuse that fact
arctic talon
Yeah that shit is filled with black powder with how far you get knocked back
I'...
Prolly takes a larger round then normal
lol
opaque coyote
I would not trust a single weapon made by budget arms
But yeah I always thought that things like the Nekomata shouldn't have like tier 1 versions or whatever
opaque coyote
But this is more about 2077 balancing
opaque coyote
The tier system in 2077 is dogshit
In general, #1 thing in Orion should be the replacement of the Tier System
arctic talon
Militech, Kang Tao and Arasaka should be the cream of the crop
Everyone else falls inbetween
Dara polytechnic is the cheap but good option
opaque coyote
Because it doesn't really make sense that like
Budget Arms can become a god gun
arctic talon
Tbh
opaque coyote
Although tbf I can imagine that maybe you could modify it to be like that?
arctic talon
I think the average gamer would be mad if their shitty press printed gun blew up in their hand in a firefight
lol
arctic talon
Although tbf I can imagine that maybe you could modify it to be like that?
Yeah
You can make them not shit
opaque coyote
But generally, I think every Budget Arms gun should just start off shit
And if you're a madwoman like Rebecca
You can make them your fucking god gun
opaque coyote
But generally you only find them at like the equivalent of Tier 1
arctic talon
They still shoot bullets good enough to kill
opaque coyote
Due to their low quality build
opaque coyote
Tbf it’s not like their weapons ar inherently bad
Yeah they're just cheap
Like the Gulliotine looks like dogwater
I fucking hate and love it's design and how shitty it looks
opaque coyote
Do you think they play ads on the scope/screen
Of fucking course
Somebody must've died trying to snipe using a cheap ass gun
Only to have a loud
NI COLA TASTE THE LOVE
Play
winter pine
I fucking hate and love it's design and how shitty it looks
Tied with the Shigure as my favorite SMG in the game lmao
opaque coyote
Do you think they play ads on the scope/screen
I do wish San rio returns in Orion though
arctic talon
Tbf thats a case of 2077 being not a TTRPG
winter pine
Hoping for some SlamDance in Orion tbqh
opaque coyote
I want the equivalent of a gun being painted with Hello Kitty type shit
winter pine
They made 40k grade war crime weapons
opaque coyote
If I don't get my Hello Cutie Ultra-K8 Assault Pistol
Orion is an automatic 0/10
opaque coyote
If I don't get my Hello Cutie Ultra-K8 Assault Pistol
Jokes aside I feel like the best way to implement this type of stuff is uniques
arctic talon
oh I thought you were gona send the magnetic bullet shooting one
not the harpoon lol
opaque coyote
Generally I feel like Unique guns in 2077 are kinda disappointing
winter pine
Taking an aimed shot and dumping LUCK with this thing on some poor gonk lmfao
opaque coyote
Most of them are just variants
Which is fine but a majority don't really have a unique look
tough haven
opaque coyote
A color scheme difference mostly
tough haven
@storm jungle
arctic talon
Taking an aimed shot and dumping LUCK with this thing on some poor gonk lmfao
They shouldn't have been so shootable smh
winter pine
There was a recentish DLC that had a thermal knife that sounded really fun too, would love to try that one sometime
opaque coyote
oh I thought you were gona send the magnetic bullet shooting one
But yeah in general two things I wish are
A rework of the tier system
And
Swords that aren't just Katanas
I always found it lame that there's only katanas
Katanas are cool but where's my claymore?
Why can't I go medieval on their asses?
I get it's supposed to represent Arasaka's dominance
But also I always thought that companies would try to make competition on that front as well
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128>
Oh god damn it lol
arctic talon
Katanas are cool but where's my claymore?
ran out of time/overlap in sandbox
lol
Katanas are prioritized bcs one of the gangs in Cyberpunk 2077 uses them a ton
Tyger Claws
opaque coyote
ran out of time/overlap in sandbox
Yeah it's mainly time + overlap.
I always thought that at least there should've been more two handed melee weapons
And having a fucking scifi looking zweihander or something
Would've been peak
arctic talon
the Tyger Claws have become less racist to other East Asians with each iteration of the gang
still racist though
opaque coyote
the Tyger Claws have become less racist to other East Asians with each iteration...
"We aren't racist, we just love sex trafficking!"
arctic talon
No they're absolutely racist still
opaque coyote
(Don't tell them are we are racist)
arctic talon
lol
celest dome
I remember some Devs saying about a game they made where the only sword they added was the Katana, and it being cause those are the only weapon that they saw as "still in use" 💀
paper haven
Generally I feel like Unique guns in 2077 are kinda disappointing
They're all bullpup style rifles
arctic talon
copperhead isn't a bullpup
opaque coyote
They're all bullpup style rifles
Ajax
paper haven
Oh you mean the video game
opaque coyote
Yeah
I just want some more unique designs
For unique weapons
It's why I like additions like Erebus
Which not only sends people to the closest thing to Hell
But it also looks fucking cursed as hell
And I love it
paper haven
I wish smart guns were better
opaque coyote
Like it literally looks like something that SHOULDN'T exist
opaque coyote
In the 2077 game, they probably had a hard time balancing it out
Because Smart Guns have aimbot basically
So you have to make it so that they don't do too much damage so that the regular and tech weapons are worth using
But also you have to make it do enough to still be worth
opaque coyote
Again
Cyberpunk Zweihander when
opaque coyote
thats more of a very heavy melee
Yeah that's what I'm thinking of like
opaque coyote
"How to add a sword that doesn't interrupt gameplay role since the katana fulfills the regular route"
arctic talon
Its made by Rostovic
and is said to have started as an in universe joke by employees
before an order was actually put in for them
opaque coyote
I feel like two handed melee weapons were kinda fucked over in 2077
I mean realistically it makes sense
But like
arctic talon
oh yeah I forgot Sanroo made a fucking hammer lol
opaque coyote
Come on man...
winter pine
Cost: 1,000eb (Very Expensive)
Everyone loves a giant hammer, especially when it
contains a sliding, ultra-dense core to add an extra
helping of kinetic energy oomph to each and every
impact. The Hypurr-Hammer doesn’t actually purr but
does come in four unique designs, allowing collectors
to choose their favorite breed (Bengal, Egyptian Mau,
Sphinx, or Ussuri) to beat down bads with.
The Hypurr-Hammer is a Two-Handed Very Heavy Melee
Weapon that does not halve SP like a traditional melee
weapon. If wielded by a user with BODY 9 or higher, the
weapon deals 1d6 additional damage (5d6 instead of
4d6), and whenever this weapon causes a Critical Injury,
the user rolls twice on the Critical Injury table and chooses
their favorite option for the victim to suffer. If wielded by
a user with BODY 8 or lower, the weapon insults the user
after each attack, issuing mocking put-downs in a nasally,
high-pitched voice from a hidden speaker.```...THIS NEEDS TO BE IN ORION
winter pine
2077 was really lacking in the wacky stuff like this
arctic talon
opaque coyote
SANROO IS MY FAVORITE CORPO
Just because the weapons are crimes against humanity, nature, and God
Doesn't mean they can't be cute
arctic talon
here I think you'd like the free PDF
https://rtalsoriangames.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/RTG-CPR-DLC-12DaysofCutiemas.pdf
opaque coyote
Beautiful
winter pine
Black Chrome+ has the 1TruLuv Sniper Rifle that's really good as well
arctic talon
opaque coyote
Black Chrome+ has the 1TruLuv Sniper Rifle that's really good as well
AI gf sniper rifle moment
opaque coyote
That sounds like if it was installed incorrectly, you'd probably have permanent brain damage
And whatever nerves for your eyes would be fried
...
Alright doc, put me under...
arctic talon
yeah well get a good surgeon
opaque coyote
yeah well get a good surgeon
Jokes aside, I honestly heard of a headcanon that makes sense to me
Basically that mixing chrome from different companies increases chances of becoming cyberpsycho
Like if you bought gorilla arms from militech but a new spine from arasaka
It'll intentionally increase the rates of cyberpsychosis
opaque coyote
Cyberpsychosis is just the body being unable to cope properly
Aware but I'm thinking of it like
Trying to open a Windows game on a Mac OS
Without a vm
It causes more malfunctions
And more stress to the body
Then again this is a headcanon and I have
No evidence
||thecorposarehidingitclearl-||
But it seems like something corpos would actually do
Basically pull an apple and encourage you to buy only from them
They already do it for the guns and each having their own unique rail system
Which btw is a detail I actually appreciate
winter pine
Basically pull an apple and encourage you to buy only from them
I dunno if it's outright stated anywhere but I assume part of what a ripperdoc does is crack / jailbreak cyberware DRM like this
daring creek
outer wave
Give my trans friends free boneless wings!!!
vagrant fox
I'd trans for free boneless wings
outer wave
Free food IS free food
arctic talon
I dunno if it's outright stated anywhere but I assume part of what a ripperdoc d...
I’d assume so tbh,
At big hospitals they likely won’t
But if it’s a ripperdoc or medtech
They’ll prolly tear out the DRM
celest cedar
https://fixupx.com/DemonessChara/status/2023204106874302676
might transition mashallah if true
vagrant fox
Cyberstan sucks eggs when are we getting to defect to the squids
vagrant fox
This is quite good, billion lumen eyes to incinerate any fool
arctic talon
No Illuminate milf gf for you
They catfish super earth civilians and then put them in the genesplicing pods to ascend them
storm jungle
They catfish super earth civilians and then put them in the genesplicing pods to...
aw hell nah
vagrant fox
They catfish super earth civilians and then put them in the genesplicing pods to...
Beats being on Super Earth surely
arctic talon
Overseers are human illuminate hybrids and the final form of the voteless
I am not crazy
Fleshmobs are just failed transformations
daring creek
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/9815638521301988662/E266C0748E371F7B5268EDB...
"NO FUN ALLOWED"
vagrant fox
Overseers are human illuminate hybrids and the final form of the voteless
You're saying there is a chance as the squilf
vagrant fox
"NO FUN ALLOWED"
Can't do warcrimes as a treat anymore without the woke getting at you smh
arctic talon
You're saying there is a chance as the squilf
Don’t call them that 💀
heady rivet
I have successfully shilled
vagrant fox
Don’t call them that 💀
Persecuted for my beliefs again
arctic talon
I genuinely believe the squids have become some sort of weird doomsday cult
You cannot stop me
storm jungle
I have successfully shilled
arctic talon
https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-rivulet-gif-9220398039228545942
Why have you begun killing ruffles
What has he done to offend you
vagrant fox
You cannot stop me
You've already convinced me about deep state gene blenders I'm not trying to stop you even vaguely
vagrant fox
It is funny, wtf is the genre of gifs/videos/images even lol
It's like that goofy horror movie thing
lament shoal
can we blow up the helldiver fandom and start from scratch
vagrant fox
I'm going to be mildly annoying to my friends and say inconceivable infringement of super earth copyrighted device of democracy too much
opaque coyote
storm jungle
can we blow up the helldiver fandom and start from scratch
One dead shitdiver at a time
celest cedar
Barbine
arctic talon
Would having a religious body also be the regulatory body for certain weapons in a homebrew setting be a bad idea
lol
vagrant fox
Depends on the tone of the setting but I wouldn't immediately think so
arctic talon
Depends on the tone of the setting but I wouldn't immediately think so
I was going to have it done for one specific nation where the clergy is also obsessed with a type of weapon, I’m not sure what yet
lol
vagrant fox
I don't remember entirely but some English or German trade guilds evolved from very religious guilds to begin with
I can see if they hadn't separated the church could effectively gain a monopoly had things gone entirely their way
vagrant fox
Nobles and burghers probably wouldn't like it but if the church is more or less in charge what're you gonna do
arctic talon
Maybe I’ll make it a theocracy
opaque coyote
Would having a religious body also be the regulatory body for certain weapons in...
Would be interesting
Like you could have unique reasons for why X weapon is restricted
Like "It destroys the souls of people"
Or something
surreal nest
But I like that Deadlock has much more variety lol
I hope they call their characters "cultists" thats a fun name
Or acolytes
I cant spell
celest cedar
Girls hitting me
like in a flirty way or
winter pine
https://tenor.com/view/gachi-gachimuchi-billy-herrington-aniki-gay-bar-gif-22934...
miss him so much...
vagrant fox
Aniki...
daring creek
like in a flirty way or
In a mysterious way
arctic talon
I hope they call their characters "cultists" thats a fun name
They’re called Occultists/Fates internally
young pecan
TV in my work's break room getting spammed with political ads of a guy running for re-election going "we pushed back da WOKE MOB, because we actually care about Protecting the Kids"
Look up "(name) child marriage" and see he was the final vote on a bill that would end child marriage in my state
Take a wild guess what he did
storm jungle
LMFAO
daring creek
storm jungle
Most of the time when they speak about The Woke/Protecting Kids that politician is likely a pedophile
young pecan
Every single time bro
Every conservative accusation is a confession
This rule has NEVER lead me astray
storm jungle
yeah and after these file reveals it can NEVER be an ""exaggeration"
"Erm not every politician is a pedo"
Yeah sure pal whatever you say lmao
young pecan
Press the button that kills everyone in all three branches of government
Sorry Jasmine Crockett, we can't be too sure
daring creek
The anti child grooming narrative is ironically, a child grooming narrative
storm jungle
Ironically usually is
daring creek
They want to ban sex ed from schools, white wash history and reinforce religion in classrooms
History isn't repeating itself at all no
Tfw im being radicalized by bare just witnessing everything around me
solid horizon
Don't forget learning about the benefits of colonialism
daring creek
Whos that
Oh
OW slop
@storm jungle if helldivers 2 had a book series would you buy
I would I think
rose thorn
Helldiver fans don’t seem to even read the lore based off of what Reddit says
young pecan
https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-ramattra-gif-27161303
Some of the ships with him and D.va were cute
young pecan
Helldiver fans don’t seem to even read the lore based off of what Reddit says
Lore accurate Helldivers
daring creek
I think a hd2 book would be kinda cool. Then again...
young pecan
I might play overwatch again
No don't do dat
They killed their most prominent black character with a newcomer nobody with barely any established feats during Black History Month, in a poorly made cinematic
rose thorn
I use to be a cracked zen main
young pecan
rose thorn
They killed their most prominent black character with a newcomer nobody with bar...
????????
young pecan
That is so valid I love Zen
Would only hop on him when I was feeling the cracked aim coming on though
Otherwise I was Ana
rose thorn
What what happened to doom fist? Is he no longer playable???
young pecan
I'm sure he's still playable but they killed him xd
rose thorn
Lmao
Holy rammatta
OH I SHOULD RIP OF RAMMATTRA FOR MY INSECT REBELLION WARCRIMINAL
Man I might just love terrorist factions
In media
celest cedar
They killed their most prominent black character with a newcomer nobody with bar...
lol yep
theres no buildup to whoever she is
in other news they also dropped the 2 in overwatch 2
TF2 officially outlived both overwatches
opaque coyote
<@166943308231344128> if helldivers 2 had a book series would you buy
Honestly yeah
Personally I would like some details on like
The average Super Earth Citizen
Or a cyborg in Cyberstan
Etc.
Because we don't have much details of a regular person PoV
At most we get either the Helldivers or Super Earth's propaganda
While it is fun to try and guess how life is like from the propaganda and details sprinkled in
I still would like to see civilian life
tough haven
I wanna know what life in Gun is like
Gun city
I wake up every morning in Gun to my gun alarm clock shooting in the air
I shoot it to make it stop
I shoot my cabinet door to get out a bowl of cereal for breakfast
opaque coyote
Why are you talking about my daily routine smh
Also something that's interesting is that apparently Super Earth is fine with dying hair and tattoos
...
mfw a literal fascist genocidal space empire is more free towards fashion than some countries rn
tough haven
I mean, they’ve got the free transitioning if you join the military
opaque coyote
tough haven
“Unhappy with your look, voice or body? go into the customization menu and change that”
It’s in the SEAF guidebook
I forget the exact quote
opaque coyote
Also same sex marriage is allowed, the female private can mention having a wife.
You still have to fill out a permit to have a child though, and it's apparently very tedious
...
Which implies that they managed to figure out how to get same sex people to produce
Because it's needed for any sexual activity
So this logically means that clearly, Mpreg is a thing in Helldivers 2
tough haven
Because it's needed for any sexual activity
It’s about equality
young pecan
Which implies that they managed to figure out how to get same sex people to prod...
Maybe that's just for adoption? If not then uhh good for Helldivers lowkey making Omegaverse real sort of
tough haven
Cause otherwise everyone would be like “no I’m gay”
celest cedar
So this logically means that clearly, Mpreg is a thing in Helldivers 2
blessed be the m/tm's
and the tf/tm's
opaque coyote
Jokes aside, apparently Cram School is also popular in their society. Apparently even one for uh
Reeducation
I'm questioning on how the fuck does that even work
It's probably just a pun tbf, but I also wouldn't put it past them to have cram schools for reeducation
opaque coyote
Maybe that's just for adoption? If not then uhh good for Helldivers lowkey makin...
Could be but I imagine any orphans would go directly into the war grinder
Like @tough haven said could also genuinely be an equality thing
But it is funny to imagine that they cracked the code and managed to make same sex reproduction a thing
Given how many Helldivers fucking die
I guess you'll need all you can get
Apparently there's also a galactic wide web, so Super Earth has a form of internet
Using Quantum computers and interlinked particles and other scifi doohickeys
Apparently there's still some lag not because of the distances but because of the constant surveillance and data analysis of content being uploaded. Likely due to the nature of "managed democracy". It is likely that this is also checked via AI
...good to see that Google still exists in the Helldivers universe. And they've barely changed!
Generally, I hope we get more lore stuff
heady rivet
I'm very excited all the lore is lining up for Hive Secundus style expeditions with Tech-Priests
arctic talon
Hive secundus content in the big 2026
rose thorn
Hive secundus content in the big 2026
More house expansions?
arctic talon
I sure fucking hope so lol
rose thorn
Lmao
arctic talon
Secundus is genuinely underbaked as hell
Like if Ash wastes came out half raw
Secundus is literally still mooing
rose thorn
Whats wrong don’t want to pls vansaar and nothing else?
arctic talon
Whats wrong don’t want to pls vansaar and nothing else?
That’s not even my issue with it tbh
People already complained ash wastes came out with very little content
Which it did
And then they did it again with secundus
rose thorn
The spirehunters are genuinely fun in the main game then the game mode they were intended for lmao
arctic talon
The spirehunters are genuinely fun in the main game then the game mode they were...
Tbf they got rules for the main game for a reason
They’re iconic to munda
rose thorn
True
arctic talon
But secundus has the potential to be good
The issue is it didn’t get enough initial content for anyone to want to invest time into it
rose thorn
I hope they release stuff to make the second sons / helstrain an actual faction
crisp heath
Am happy
Fixed my pc's cooler vents today
Downside: i cannot leave it on when I go to sleep now
arctic talon
I hope they release stuff to make the second sons / helstrain an actual faction
Malstrain will prolly get more eventually