40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

Based.

[arctic talon]

meth fueled theory

[rocky gale]

If it was a good game I would have played it

[arctic talon]

none of the illuminate ingame rn are actualy illuminate

they're all humans mutated with illuminate DNA

[vagrant fox]

Every day I hate the Irish more

[rocky gale]

Good

[hollow lantern]

i love hd1 cause it knew exactly what it wanted to be tbh

[near wasp]

That's because the illuminate got genocided and probably had to merge DNA to keep the species alive

[vagrant fox]

First the Irish put a genetic curse upon me, then beat my people down, and now this

[rocky gale]

Did they make you ginger?

[vagrant fox]

No I just have norse-gael ancestry and that's gay

But I am related to gingers

[arctic talon]

I'm thinking they have an actual stable population but are refusing to spend any of their actual population(yet)

and the overseers are all human illuminate hybrids

[rocky gale]

Yea like their population is still recovering and they don't want to risk them on the frontline

Makes sense

[hollow lantern]

Wtf are the tripods

Cause they have meat in them iirc

[lament shoal]

HIGH COMMAND, THIS BORGUSSY GOT ME QUESTIONING MY LOYALTY TO SUPER EARTH

[arctic talon]

they should add the 3 deranged difficulties from 1 lol

An Exercise in Futility
The Definition of Insanity
The Inner Circle of Hell

[arctic talon]

some sort of biomechanical construct

[vagrant fox]

Somekind of dog

[arctic talon]

like the rest of their units

if you notice the uh everything bleeds

[hollow lantern]

Look pal the day we get D15 I'll be there

[arctic talon]

all of their units bleed

Like a lot

stingrays bleed

leviathans bleed

[hollow lantern]

Ik Levis are meat

Didn't know rays were

[arctic talon]

the drop ships also bleed

after they crash

[hollow lantern]

Neat

[arctic talon]

but yeah the Illuminate are likely growing their technology now

[rocky gale]

You should only be able to encounter actual Illuminate in Commando missions, that would make sense

[arctic talon]

tbh

I'm thinking the leaked illuminate units

the Council member/illusionist replacement + that creepy summoner guy

are actual illuminates

[rocky gale]

But at the end of the day I'll never know because I hate fighting the Illuminate

[hollow lantern]

They desperately need new shit

They were my favorite faction in 1

[arctic talon]

oh also the leaked enemies have dif colored blood

they have bright blue blood

[vagrant fox]

I really want to see more squids I don't like the current roster much

[arctic talon]

thats why I'm thinking all the illuminate we currently fight are human hybrids even more

they all got weird dark blue blood

[rocky gale]

Everything about their current roster is just unfun to fight

[rose thorn]

RAGHHH TRYING TO MAKE MY NEXT PATHFINDER 2E CHARACTER

[storm jungle]

Illuminate are like

wraithbone core almost

[hollow lantern]

At least levis arent just orbital one shot machines now

[surreal nest]

You havent used the heavy machine gun against a chaos spawn and it shows

[storm jungle]

a lot of the shit is obviously space magic

[rocky gale]

Because heavy machine guns are lame

[storm jungle]

Doesnt matter. Still a dogshit enemy.

[young pecan]

Overseers being ridiculously hard to kill compared to how many of them there are is a sore point for me

[surreal nest]

How many hours you got

[hollow lantern]

Nah the meatballs are awful

[surreal nest]

🗣️

[hollow lantern]

Terrain ignoring fat fucks

[arctic talon]

I like overseers

tbh

[vagrant fox]

It works but there's 11,000 more and then you have to reload

[arctic talon]

Meatballs suck

[storm jungle]

500

dogshit enemy

[surreal nest]

Yikes 500?

[hollow lantern]

I like 1v1ing the staff overseers in melee

[storm jungle]

Its a fun game

do you have a problem

[arctic talon]

Overseers(all of them) and harvesters are fun

tbh

[rocky gale]

Ironically I loved fighting the Illuminate during the invasion of Super Earth, that was peak

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Like

genuinely

[rocky gale]

But like everything after is just ass

[surreal nest]

You had a problem with helldivers 2 like 3 weeks ago

[arctic talon]

I have 0 issue with any of their roster but the meatballs

lol

[storm jungle]

What problem

[surreal nest]

But im just giving you shit meatballs suck

[vagrant fox]

Yeah the actual overseers are fun, the voteless too. The rest I do not like

[storm jungle]

i play it on an doff

[hollow lantern]

Why can't AH fix meatballs and walls

[storm jungle]

suck my meatballs instead nerd

[hollow lantern]

I noticed devs walk through walls too now

And the diver will phase through rocks

[surreal nest]

Illuminate are fun to fight with the jeep though if you have a designated driver

[hollow lantern]

Why is the terrain not terraining

[vagrant fox]

Yeah I was hiding in a tactical rock recently and the enemies couldn't do anything

[arctic talon]

meatballs are literally the only issue

with the illuminate

[vagrant fox]

My designated driver is genuinely lethal it's safer to walk than let him drive

[arctic talon]

rn the illuminate are just a blunt hammer

roster wise

[hollow lantern]

Yk what they remind me of

[arctic talon]

oh also

[arctic talon]

the entire redone illuminate faction got leaked sorta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_3ZOwUIqyM

[vagrant fox]

If the drones didn't scan through buildings I'd tolerate them

[arctic talon]

a while ago

I didn't know this much got leaked

but they seem more like the HD1 illuminate

in terms of how they play

[hollow lantern]

Watch them be a special faction only available sometimes lol

[surreal nest]

Bro is NOT designated he just snuck on board

[rocky gale]

Drones spawning inside buildings and then scanning you through the wall, the usual Illuminate experience

[surreal nest]

Im actually such a good helldivers 2 driver though

[arctic talon]

killing myself/j

[surreal nest]

I be drifting and shit

[vagrant fox]

He's designated by the virtue that he's the only one who wants to drive
He just also thinks mayhem and tks are fun

[surreal nest]

Tks are funny like every now and then

[crystal forum]

i always end up being the designated driver in every game

but that's because i like driving

[arctic talon]

its genuinely insane all the leaked illuminate

didn't make it into the game

LOL

like from the original illuminate leak 2 years ago

[vagrant fox]

Yeah that video is a lot of stuff

[arctic talon]

the voteless/overseers are all different

it seems like the original model leaks

now have proper AI/function

but like these weirdos have been in the code

since 2024

the only thing from the original round of illuminate leaks that made it into the game was the fucking harvester

[crystal forum]

man the ads for the automaton stuff are so boring

they just took devs didn't even bother hiring actors

the ad for the update with the illuminate and the jeep was awesome

[storm jungle]

nah the teasers are peak

the dev diaries are absolute ass tho

[storm jungle]

also what is all this occult shit goddamn

[arctic talon]

They're labled Illuminate cult and were the original illuminate models datamined

which all got scrapped(sorta) aside from the harvester

which made it in alongside the current overseers/voteless

it seems like they went back and finished them all properly

so I think next illuminate MO is going to have them show up

[outer wave]

I enjoy them LARPing though, wish they had costumes for the bit

[storm jungle]

same otherwise it feels a bit weird

[storm jungle]

Scrapped????????

that cannot be fucking right

[arctic talon]

well they were "scrapped"

they didn't get added

with the original illuminate wave

[storm jungle]

Ah fair lol

[arctic talon]

and had no AI

so it was assumed that oh well these must be all the illuminate

[storm jungle]

yeah i think the next major campaign is prob Illuminate so it makes sense

[arctic talon]

nope lol

[crystal forum]

we'll see when next illuminate update cycle comes around which will be after the bots

[arctic talon]

you want to hear my deranged conspiracy theory

on why they didn't get added

[vagrant fox]

It's just developers having fun It's ok
Costumes would up it tho

[arctic talon]

They were added alongside Into the Unjust which was the super fucking unpopular balance patch

that nerfed a bunch of shit

I think and this is just a theory, that the original illuminate were considered too "unfun" after the feedback they got from the other stuff they added that update

so they decided to shelve them and cook up the current batch we have which are the overseers/voteless stuff

[rocky gale]

Which were also considered "unfun"

[languid meadow]

I mean... yeah ngl

HD1 squids were unpopular for a reason

which is completely different from the reason they're unpopular in HD2 lmfao

[storm jungle]

lmao yeah

shame because they are a super cool faction

i love how in such a hard sci-fi setting they are literally straight out of 40k

and use literal magic and shit

its great

[arctic talon]

I really like HD1 squids personally lol

they're so weird, their whole faction is pretty lightly armored

but they got a bunch of tricky shit instead

[storm jungle]

yeah its the Eldar/Protoss grindset

[rocky gale]

and then in HD2 they just have 9 million hit points

[arctic talon]

anyways here's more of the creepy ass cultist squids from a more recent leak

judging by leaked footage

they're way squishier

then current illuminate

[rocky gale]

Now that looks dope

[arctic talon]

but they just fucking murder you instead lol

with magic

[outer wave]

What are those zombie like things in the middle?

They're not voteless

Or they could be

[vagrant fox]

If they had some of the gimmicks hd1 squids it'd be fun
I love inverted controls

[spring cairn]

they do

[rocky gale]

I would rather have squishy magic nerds than 5 gorrilion mobs that each take 5000 shots to kill

[arctic talon]

They're revived dead illuminate corpses

they die super fast

[spring cairn]

but first

[arctic talon]

but they get spawned in blobs

[spring cairn]

cybertsan

[languid meadow]

istg there was an old screenshot of squid leaks with human cultists

[arctic talon]

oh also this thing

[spring cairn]

u hallucinated it sorry

[storm jungle]

bruh

[storm jungle]

the robes imply it has sentience

[spring cairn]

i can assure u

you did

[storm jungle]

maybe some form of punished outcast like HD1?

[outer wave]

Im surprised the Illuminate would be willing to use their own dead when the Voteless are already present

[vagrant fox]

Irrelevant but wolf do you happen to have the dancing MacArthur video on hand

[storm jungle]

I think its to show how fucked they are mentally

[arctic talon]

that thing is alive

[storm jungle]

the first galactic war absolutely ruined them

they are like psychotic now

[arctic talon]

also

they were originally labled

"The Enlightened"

[storm jungle]

Interesting

[arctic talon]

you can do what you wish with that information

[arctic talon]

one moment

@vagrant fox

[vagrant fox]

Tyvm
Top tier video

[outer wave]

Yeah thats a good point, but pragmatically, you already have Voteless; why grab Illuminate corpses on top? Wouldn't you want to instill more fear by using the enemy's dead?

[arctic talon]

if you want to hear my deranged theory, I think the Illuminate found something when flying in the deep black void of space.

And thats why they're so much creepier now, like not the voteless/overseers

which are human hybrids

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

the actual illuminate themselves are way more fucking gaunt/necrotic looking

this isn't an artstyle change, they have physically been mutated and altered by something

beyond being mad at Super Earth for genociding them

they literally have become cultists to something greater

[storm jungle]

A big theory is that yeah, they discovered or delved into some dark sort of magic to get revenge against super earth hence why they are so much more eldritch now, compared ot HD1 where they were basically a more peaceful Protoss-like race

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[spring cairn]

they're a mix of biotechnology

[storm jungle]

^

like i said basically diet Eldar/Protoss

[spring cairn]

like the combine in Half life

[storm jungle]

its prob the best comparison

or that yep

[spring cairn]

look at the strider in half life

[arctic talon]

like with the leaked footage

[spring cairn]

literally their tech is like that

[outer wave]

Maybe we can see Illuminate versions of fleshmobs.....

[arctic talon]

you have illuminate praying infront of these weird fucking portals

that are like

whispering

[storm jungle]

Aw hell nah

[arctic talon]

and the ones praying in front of it

[spring cairn]

even their ground attack aircrafts are biotech

[rocky gale]

You lose GI

[arctic talon]

don't react to you killing them either

like

[spring cairn]

even the warships

[arctic talon]

they keep on praying as you mag dump them

[storm jungle]

aw HELL NAH

[storm jungle]

also this yeah

the leviathans too

[arctic talon]

There's something seriously fucking wrong with them now lol

[storm jungle]

they are literally alive

[languid meadow]

GLORY TO CYBERSTAN RAAAAAAAH

[spring cairn]

i'm playing with my bff rn and i'm waiting at extract

[arctic talon]

deadass I think the illuminate are trying to "ascend"

[spring cairn]

i can hear a patrol stomping around

[arctic talon]

in some manner

[languid meadow]

has the illuminate boss theme been used yet?

I know the bot one is gonna be used on cyberstan

[spring cairn]

there is ?

[storm jungle]

boss theme?

[languid meadow]

here

[rocky gale]

https://youtu.be/w3VeKnW9cNo

[spring cairn]

i don't think the illuminates have 1

[arctic talon]

oh my god someone got them rendered properly lol

the original model leaks

[vagrant fox]

Maybe the squids are the good guys now

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/3u1HyU1kFjo?si=0vEafwBkZeBZJ_RQ nvm it was for harvesters but I never hear it ingame

[languid meadow]

when the squids were getting leaked this was always "boss theme"

[storm jungle]

these are so sick

[rocky gale]

Why they kinda...

[storm jungle]

they tryna be-

[arctic talon]

Anyways this is more evidence for my theory that the current illuminate ingame

aren't actual illuminate

the Illuminiate are trying to "save" humanity in their eyes

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are mutated humans put in wraithbone suits or something right?

[vagrant fox]

They do look a bit fucked up now

[arctic talon]

the overseers are imo heavily mutated humans while the voteless are in the begining phases of transformation

and meatballs are the "failures" of transformation

harvesters/stingrays/leviathans are just illuminate tech

[languid meadow]

that'd be cool

honestly interesting as well

[storm jungle]

based theory

[languid meadow]

reminds me of humanity lost

[rocky gale]

Lemmie know if they need anymore human hybrids

[arctic talon]

but yeah thats my theory on the illuminate faction

[languid meadow]

if anyone knows that

[arctic talon]

they were just mad about losing initially

and then they found something in space

and they were changed

[storm jungle]

yeah like a lot of their tech units are entirely unmanned "creatures" almost

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/TQGGBPfNxvY?si=aIW4ghLcg-5hsBVy also this theme is finally being used on cyberstan can't wait to explode horrifically

[storm jungle]

Lambda ironically was onto it comparing them to Combine synths i think

they literally bleed blood and shit

[spring cairn]

yes

the overseers bleed the same blood the harvesters or everything else does

[storm jungle]

yeah like that dark blue iirc

[languid meadow]

yea

[arctic talon]

but yeah the illuminate cultists(when they're working) have bright blue blood, can teleport and all have personal shields

even if they're shitty ones

[vagrant fox]

They're pretty combine adjacent

[arctic talon]

aside from the zombies

[languid meadow]

honestly I can't wait for the squid stuff after cyberstan but idk where they'll go outside of the ruins and prison arc

[spring cairn]

commando missions with 2 randoms are hell man

how are we supposed to stealth

should've privated that shit

[arctic talon]

they'll introduce the cultists with the ruin stuff I bet

[storm jungle]

We'll see tbh, HD2 has its issues but the narrative team ALWAYS cooks

like the MO is a fuckfest rn

[languid meadow]

real

[storm jungle]

but the narrative side is still amazing

that kinda shows tbh

[arctic talon]

tbh their writing team is great

lol

[languid meadow]

I don't care if we get railroaded to GET to the new stuff

[storm jungle]

^

[spring cairn]

same

[languid meadow]

however we should be allowed to fail the stuff

[spring cairn]

just gimmie

[arctic talon]

cyberstan has a fail state

btw

[languid meadow]

like super earth has the fail condition in the files that was unused

[arctic talon]

for both not reaching and failing to invade it

[spring cairn]

we can fail and will still get it

[languid meadow]

we'll 100% fail imo

[arctic talon]

yeah

[spring cairn]

they'll have factory worlds on other planets

according to the leaks

if we fail

[languid meadow]

oh yeah

the bot timer

wonder that is

tmr

[storm jungle]

cyborg reveals iirc

[vagrant fox]

People are going to get very mad if we don't reach Cyberstan

[storm jungle]

mfers pretending like 80% of the playerbase doesnt know the cyborgs already lol

[spring cairn]

i mean

[languid meadow]

shit if I was the devs i'd be mad too

[spring cairn]

they showed the face of a cyborg in an official video

[arctic talon]

oh also the cultist names are as follows

Xenobites(for the slim ones with staffs), Outcasts(for the ones who look like HD1 outcasts), Zealot for the giant freaky wizard with a whip, Prophet(for the illusionist replacement), Sentinel(for their harvester equivelent)

[cerulean trellis]

i know robute and lion are back but apparently so is leman russ, when did that happen?

[arctic talon]

Ghouls for the zombies

[storm jungle]

I mean more that when we usually have leaks its like hidden away in subreddits or folks like you post em around.

THIS was straight up them posting shit on youtube days prioer to the update lmao

[arctic talon]

Russ is not back yet

[storm jungle]

Russ isnt back, thats madeup.

[storm jungle]

Yeah called it with the Outcasts

was gonna say the robes give it away lol

[arctic talon]

also the Magus

which is a fucking wizard

and newly added

[languid meadow]

someone made art of pasqual on cyberstan killing helldivers and someone went "he would not do that"

[rocky gale]

Russ is coming, don't let them fool you

[cerulean trellis]

I see, thought i was outta the loop again xD

[storm jungle]

He absolutely would LOL

[arctic talon]

Russ is coming next edition

not this one

[languid meadow]

yeah he would lmao

[arctic talon]

Pasqual would side with the cyborgs lol

[cerulean trellis]

I do wonder if we will see corvus corax coming back or not

[spring cairn]

based

[arctic talon]

He'd probably hate the fucking Automatons

[outer wave]

Hope the Illuminate just kinda haunt the players throughout the map, even if passively

[arctic talon]

but absolutely cyborgs

[storm jungle]

its the same as morons thinking Super Earth and the Imperium would get along, mfer the Imperium would annihilate super earth and they'd instantly butt heads ideologically lol

[spring cairn]

my life for the collective

[languid meadow]

I wonder if we can win this new major order

[arctic talon]

Super Earth and the Imperiums philosophy's are not identical

Aranthas continuity is the super earth of Warhammer 40k

[storm jungle]

BASED

[arctic talon]

and they got fucking obliterated

[vagrant fox]

Eventually yeah likely

[spring cairn]

there's a new one ?

[arctic talon]

and genocided

by the Imperium

so yeah

LOL

[outer wave]

But this cool AMV video made by WERMACHTLOVER8869 showed me that they would!!

[spring cairn]

i thought there was still time on the current 1

[cerulean trellis]

I also kinda missed what happened to dorn after he worked on the golden throne

[arctic talon]

Dorn goes missing in the 3rd black crusade

or dies in the 2e version

[late verge]

what actually IS soulblaze in lore? is it pyromancy? Doesnt pyromancy imply actual fire? Idk

[arctic talon]

depending on what edition

[rocky gale]

He went missing, left behind only a hand

[arctic talon]

pyromancy

[late verge]

ok

[arctic talon]

soulblaze is just pyromancy that is blue

which is a thing psykers can do

[languid meadow]

@spring cairn this came with a new major order which is get 1m kills with the flag I assume

[storm jungle]

its obviously made to be rigged/a joke unfortunately

[rocky gale]

All that's left of him is a fist, his imperial fist

[arctic talon]

they can control what their magic looks like

[languid meadow]

also give me lil charms

[late verge]

so its not psychic energy channeled into a gaseous form its literally just blue fire?

[vagrant fox]

Killed by chaos cultists or vanished. Pick one until GW decides

[spring cairn]

i didn't catch that we just chained missions, thats sick actually

[arctic talon]

its psychic energy used to generate blue fire

[cerulean trellis]

Didnt know there were multiple versions about what happened to him

[arctic talon]

there's 3 technically

[spring cairn]

let me look at it in game

[cerulean trellis]

3?

[storm jungle]

you ned to kill someone with the flag first

[arctic talon]

2e Dorn gets mobbed by cultists and killed
3e Dorn gets mobbed by Khornate bersekers and goes missing
3.5e Dorn gets mobbed by Cultists almost dies, then the Cultists arrive with more of them + CSM and he goes missing

and all thats left behind is his hand

[storm jungle]

I like 2e one more

dumbass primarchs

[vagrant fox]

Correct opinion

[cerulean trellis]

Poor dorn xD

[arctic talon]

if I had a nickle for every Imperial Fists player/someone who plays a successor who wants dorn to have died, I'd have 3 nickles

[storm jungle]

I love how you can tell with each edition they wanked it up further and further too lol

[arctic talon]

which isn't a lot

but its weird its happened thrice

[languid meadow]

I want another warbond that's more cybernetics after cyberstan, we haven't had armour with major cybernetics (outside of a hand) since democratic dentation iirc

[arctic talon]

they are as follows, 2 IF player, 1 BT player

lol

[vagrant fox]

I really, really want to see one of the primarchs officially get devoured by a swarm of normal humans

[arctic talon]

one of the IF players running a homebrew thing

but they used to just be normal IF

till they wanted to do more shit with them

[spring cairn]

we'll ge the trench stuff first ig

[storm jungle]

AH cashing in on that sweet WW1 slop money (id do the same)

[arctic talon]

I think trench will coincide with the new illuminate stuff

after we finish cyberstan

[storm jungle]

deffo because there was A LOT of stuff lol

[arctic talon]

I think my tier list of factions I like to fight in HD1 is
Illuminate, cyborgs, bugs

then for HD2 its
Automatons, Illuminate, bugs

[daring creek]

https://youtu.be/fsjXOr-hbTw

[arctic talon]

can you tell I don't like bugs

[spring cairn]

peak

[arctic talon]

I really don't like bugs

they're boring to fight

[languid meadow]

idk what the 2nd armour set is I hope it's good

[vagrant fox]

Does it count if the IF were my first favourite space marines

[arctic talon]

yeah surew

[daring creek]

@storm jungle Is it possible to get in trouble for renaming my arbitrator to FUCK ICE?

[storm jungle]

No because that isnt a fascist statement as a name

[daring creek]

HELL YEAH

It's basic but yeah.

I need something more creative.

[storm jungle]

god speed

[arctic talon]

might get in trouble for the fuck

lol

but aside from that no

[vagrant fox]

Correct list for both games

[rocky gale]

I'm telling you, Perturabo is going to come back and do Iron Cage pt2, he'll bate the Imperial Fists in by revealing he has Dorn captured in Stasis and they need to come and face the Fortress alone without the help of Guilliman and the others or he'll execute Dorn. Then at the climax as the Fists are getting slaughtered Dorn will somehow escape from Stasis and get into a fight with Turbo and then after learning Dorn's no longer captive Guilliman and the Ultramarines will swoop in to help.

[arctic talon]

genuinely praying for Illuminate cultists in HD2 to be cool

[surreal nest]

This guy hasnt used a mounted turret against bugs AND IT SHOWS

[arctic talon]

I have

and I still do not like bugs

I like it when my enemies shoot back

[surreal nest]

How many hours you got?

[storm jungle]

Lord Dripku will feed us more content

[arctic talon]

278 hours

[spring cairn]

not textured

[surreal nest]

Oh yikes

[arctic talon]

I didn't like bugs when the game came out either

[surreal nest]

Woah

[arctic talon]

they are a very 1 note faction

[storm jungle]

Jay prob has 50 hours

[arctic talon]

thats not Jay

💀

[storm jungle]

tbh they are the same person to me

catboy and catboy

[daring creek]

LuckFice?

[surreal nest]

Empirically false

[rocky gale]

All pink names look the same to Dilara

[arctic talon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mizutsune-palico

[vagrant fox]

Bugs just annoy me, I can get ragdolled like a thot by the bots and I'll have fun but one little dork bug comes near me and my day is ruined

[arctic talon]

I sentence you to bubble blight hell

[surreal nest]

Heaven forbid I donate to these bums

[languid meadow]

it's gonna be heavy armour slop sadly so I prob wont run it

[surreal nest]

What does heavy armor slop mean

[languid meadow]

also the china diver armour has siege ready and it's medium

[languid meadow]

just heavy armour in general

[vagrant fox]

Ice cube pun is mandatory

[storm jungle]

oh my god i saw that piece of shit armor

[spring cairn]

yeah but iz okay

the medium is peak

[arctic talon]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

welp

[surreal nest]

Siege ready is gas

[spring cairn]

next superstore armour

[arctic talon]

🇹🇼 time

[spring cairn]

confirmed

[cerulean trellis]

New vet drip xD

[spring cairn]

• a year of the horse cape

[storm jungle]

erm certainly you mean 🇨🇳

[vagrant fox]

The Chinese have it too good, warlord era 2 now

[arctic talon]

no because 🇹🇼 number 1

[languid meadow]

I don't have hope that the backpack flamethrower will be good

[arctic talon]

GENERALISMO

SEND HER TO THE LABOR CAMPS

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-gif-1360455632945049216

[surreal nest]

I still gotta use the sledgehammer

[storm jungle]

Sorry Elite. Its time to go.

[surreal nest]

Too busy grinding deadlock

[spring cairn]

celeste tomorrow twin

[surreal nest]

Did you hear the massive news that changed the world

[arctic talon]

I sstill wonder what happened to that guy lol

[storm jungle]

Same

[surreal nest]

I am ascendant 1 now

[arctic talon]

bcs they got dragged away by someone else

before yknow

it started

[storm jungle]

likely executed tbh

[spring cairn]

nice

[languid meadow]

I've been trying to play HD2 but I keep getting matched with sub lvl 50s

[storm jungle]

the fate of most people braver than us lol

[vagrant fox]

People see one brodie helmet and suddenly it's all fallslop

[surreal nest]

Wtf

[young pecan]

Fuck Lice?

[daring creek]

shutup

[arctic talon]

Ngl

[languid meadow]

Lesath was hell btw

[arctic talon]

I think I’m sddicted to the quasar

[arctic talon]

LOL

Rip viscous

[rocky gale]

Quasar is peak

[arctic talon]

Quasar slop

My beloved

I’m a pig eating my slop cannon

[vagrant fox]

Is this really how it looks in motion, it's tf2 all over again

[rocky gale]

Laser Primary, Laser revolver secondary and then Quasar on 3rd slot. Living life

[spring cairn]

u can always hmu if u wanna play if i'm not doing anything i'll let u know

[arctic talon]

They don’t have proper death animations yet

So yes

[young pecan]

Lifestrike on Silver vs. Lifestrike on Billy feels like that one HR meme

[arctic talon]

It’s likely they’ll give characters death animations bcs the creeps have them

[languid meadow]

I can prob play rn, my friends are taking a break from deadlock to do stuff for a couple of hours methinks

[arctic talon]

Flirting vs sexual harassment

Billy is sexual harassment the character

[spring cairn]

i can't rn tho srry

[young pecan]

Yeah

[vagrant fox]

There's perverts in the game too, double tf2 confirmed

[languid meadow]

I LOVE BILLY ! ! !

[spring cairn]

i have exams tomorrow i neeed to sleep

[young pecan]

I hate Billy

[arctic talon]

He’s fun

Genuinely love playing him

[young pecan]

I'm sure he's fun to play but he isn't to go against

[arctic talon]

Lash, Billy, Geist are my mains

I have been called an Austrian painter a few times

Mostly bcs of lash

[young pecan]

It must be nice being able to take 80% of your health in damage before you even start fighting and still win

[arctic talon]

It’s so hard to get people into fountain now

[arctic talon]

Open bottle laws are bullshit

Smh

Funniest Billy line

Tbh

[spring cairn]

"this jacket can fit so many beer bottles"

[young pecan]

I am a Silver main, I land every shot on the head, I combo optimally, I play at the perfect range until I am ready to let loose. And if I miss a single ability or bullet I kill myself

[languid meadow]

I love playing billy, silver, and drifter

[rocky gale]

I tried playing with friends, went Paradox and could do nothing all game. Then cried

[spring cairn]

i played my first standard of silver today

top score easy

lost game

many such cases

i press 1 in human form insta wolf

i scream in the mic

[arctic talon]

Wonder how much they’ll change paradox’s design

[languid meadow]

also chud @spring cairn

[arctic talon]

Since she’s using her neon prime model rn

[young pecan]

That's where you failed
You tried to do something
When you are Paradox you are a 4 monkey, NEVER forget your place no matter how much of a soul lead you have

[spring cairn]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Paradox’s gun is pretty good tbh

[rose thorn]

i accidentally posted my pathfinder character n the wrong chat

[languid meadow]

I just want silvers human form buffed and her werewolf nerfed, the human form plays so shit

[arctic talon]

But yeah most of her power budget is on 4

[languid meadow]

it's so unfun

[arctic talon]

Unfortunately

[spring cairn]

this is a relaxing clip

[rose thorn]

gonna kms

[spring cairn]

it feels me with joy

[rose thorn]

i posted my little red riding hood pathfinder character in teh zelot chat

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/rem-rem-deadlock-deadlock-lash-lash-deadlock-gif-7384772685200041820

[spring cairn]

i love the heartbeat mechanic on drifter

until i want to play with music on

[arctic talon]

Literally Warwick from league

Anyways I want them to change the sickle

[young pecan]

I'm debating trying Drifter

[arctic talon]

To use the same style of laser

As the trident

No changes damage wise

I just want the same laser style where it’s a beam

Instead of pellets

[spring cairn]

i tried to the unsafe sickle whatever the name is

and i like the sfx better

[spring cairn]

fun lowtier

need buffs

[young pecan]

Feast or famine, right

[rocky gale]

The Trident is good, but I just want a laser DMR

[languid meadow]

I miss stacking melee items on drifter and it being good....

[spring cairn]

it's still okayish u just gotta go hybrid first

[arctic talon]

Drifter got way overnerfed

Tbh

[spring cairn]

yea

[arctic talon]

But they’re kind of a noob stomper

[languid meadow]

his release

https://tenor.com/view/drifter-deadlock-drifter-deadlock-gif-7483497942060926526

[spring cairn]

you can tell this is a prehistoric clip because crushing fist drifter

[languid meadow]

LMFAO

yeah

let his 1 scale with meleeeee

like billy

[spring cairn]

it dooooooes

[languid meadow]

NOT ENOUGHHHH

[spring cairn]

they should just have it do heavy melee at max tier

[languid meadow]

feels like im using a worse bashdown when using it

[spring cairn]

bashdown has the pull downward thing so it'll always be bttr

[rose thorn]

MADNESS TAKE ME

[languid meadow]

dude is exhausted

real

[languid meadow]

oupy

[rose thorn]

i have been obsessively... changing pixels until i get it eprfect

im currently trying to figure out the nose

[young pecan]

I think the two pixel nose is better than the one pixel

[outer wave]

^

[rose thorn]

oka uwu

[young pecan]

"las weapons are as strong as modern tanks"

[raven stone]

Are you sure the person wasn’t talking about Lascannons :p

[young pecan]

I feel like I remember them saying las-rifles

Especially because 40k cannons being at least as strong as modern cannons should go without saying imo

[rose thorn]

i mean, i shouldnt use crosses at alll

butttt

the aura

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/U2M-0t4mFC8?si=WGlYeLthIJmz9-W4

bro we get it

there will be cyborg unit

[storm jungle]

they really think they are slick

[opaque coyote]

Now then

Where Voteless Helldivers

Jk

Mutant Mind-controlled Divers would be cool though

[rose thorn]

Hey how’s the dark angels successors?

[storm jungle]

They are very hilarious

i suggest reading up on a few lol

some are straight up "genocide everyone"

[heady rivet]

Huh, Void War is back up on steam after a GW DMCA

[storm jungle]

Damn shame

AI art slop too

also just straight up copying 40k shit lol

[heady rivet]

The reviews are made up of lobotomites

[storm jungle]

YEP

Another wave of "HUR DUR GW CRUSHES ALL CREATIVITY IP BELONGS TO THE FANS"

Shut the fuck up

lol

[arctic talon]

The game plays exactly like FTL

[storm jungle]

if fans ran warhammer this IP would crash like the fucking Hindenburgh

[arctic talon]

Aside from boarding

Where it rips off an FTL mod

lol

[heady rivet]

"Legally distinct"

[storm jungle]

"blatantly rip off"

[arctic talon]

They literally just said “remove this one shot from your trailer”

That’s it

💀

[storm jungle]

Again, people dont read

[heady rivet]

Void War devs got pissy and were like "Our artists CREATED this work" like okay I could draw Mickey Mouse but I still cant just use him in my viudeo game

[arctic talon]

That shit is too close to a marine in that shot

Everyone fucking knows it

lol

GW literally just hit them with a pillow

And that’s it

[solid horizon]

fanart artists when you tell them fan art is technically not commercially usable since it's an infringement to copyright laws and intellectual property

[heady rivet]

I am suing Alan Moore.

[storm jungle]

YEET

[storm jungle]

same happened with Flashgitz lol

idk what the fuck they expected selling outright Black Templar merch

[raven stone]

It wouldn’t crash. It would go bankrupt

[heady rivet]

20 dollar game btw

FTL is TEN

[storm jungle]

YEET

[storm jungle]

People really need to realise Warhammer as an IP literally only remains relevant because GW is brave enough to change and adapt to modern times and have been doing this for 30 years

[raven stone]

Wait GW finally got them!?

[storm jungle]

this franchise went under like 4 times in the mid 2000's lol

[storm jungle]

This is way back

its what caused them to make Space Shit

[raven stone]

Ah sad

[storm jungle]

lol same

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[raven stone]

I was expecting GW to act on SPESS KKK

[storm jungle]

Alas no dice

they follow the key rule when you ripoff 40k

rename it to something else

make it visually distinct enough

[solid horizon]

warhammer lore

[arctic talon]

GW are insanely generous

[heady rivet]

0.2 hours, he spent 20 dollars to shit on GW and didnt even care about the game

[arctic talon]

For ripoffs lol

[solid horizon]

me when green terminator skellies fight white and purple xenomorphs

[arctic talon]

The game is literally just an FTL ripoff

Mechanically

With boarding mechanics taken from FTL multiverse

Which is why I pirated acquired the game legally

[storm jungle]

they deffo hate the 3rd party printer mini stuff so many sites are doing but they very much cant do anything as they know its a very stupid case to take to court lol

[raven stone]

If nothing else FTL creator should sue :p

[storm jungle]

LOL

[arctic talon]

They prolly won’t

lol

[solid horizon]

I mean

[arctic talon]

They’re too busy doing whatever the fuck

[solid horizon]

maybe they should start by lowering the prices

[arctic talon]

Also can’t patent game mechanics really

[raven stone]

And one wonders why Void War creator couldn’t approach GW and ask for permission to do the thing for money.

[arctic talon]

FTL is cheaper then Void War

Lol

[solid horizon]

because 50 bucks avg for 5 dudes is waaaay to much

[arctic talon]

It’s half the price

Oh GW

They’re not lowering prices unfortunately

Curse of inflation + them wanting to make money lol

[solid horizon]

nobody's gonna buy

[arctic talon]

GW’s always been pricy as fuck compared to other mini companies as well

[raven stone]

For better or for worse GW does keep factories in UK

[arctic talon]

This is blatantly untrue for better or for worse

lol

[raven stone]

Surprisingly.

[heady rivet]

"When they come for Space King, we riot"
It HAS to be satire

[arctic talon]

Yeah GW keeps all their shit in the UK production wise

So that also drives pricing up

[solid horizon]

imagine spending your whole salary for a couple dudes that will be wrecked in one turn without ever being able to do any action

[raven stone]

So they have to obey UK laws and stuff

[arctic talon]

Aside from rulebook printing

For like

[wintry cloud]

i like the game because i like anything like warhammer

big bulky men

[arctic talon]

2 years

[wintry cloud]

little demons

[arctic talon]

This applies to every wargame

lol

[solid horizon]

yeah but

[arctic talon]

GW’s prices are higher then other ones

[solid horizon]

still

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

also like

[solid horizon]

im going to complain because I can

[arctic talon]

But it’s kind of always been the case

[storm jungle]

people just do not care

[arctic talon]

Fair

lol

[storm jungle]

which is fine lol

[arctic talon]

I will also complain

[storm jungle]

1k for titans PLEASE WAITER

[solid horizon]

44 bucks for 5 flayed ones is monstruous

71 BUCKS FOR FIVE PTERAXII WHAT THE FUCK

[arctic talon]

But GW isn’t really ripping people off(comparatively) as much as I want to say they are

Oh also

Fucking warmachine

Costs more then 40k now

💀

[heady rivet]

You know whats not expensive?

[arctic talon]

I’m not joking

[arctic talon]

Necromunda

[storm jungle]

DO NOT say Munda

[solid horizon]

chinese recasts and proxies

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-kylo-ren-ben-solo-ben-swolo-adam-driver-gif-18172410183960697461

[arctic talon]

Is this Australian

lol

[storm jungle]

F U C K

[arctic talon]

Warhammer East

[solid horizon]

Euros

[arctic talon]

Why are they more expensive in Euros

Then USD

What

[solid horizon]

because most of europe is in financial crisis and willing to hide it

[hollow lantern]

I still don't get the appeal of titans tbh

[arctic talon]

They’re 51 euros

[rocky gale]

Because perfidious Albion

[arctic talon]

Are you blind

Or are you in the wrong money

[hollow lantern]

"Here's my big fuck off model I will most likely never use in a game"

[arctic talon]

I am staring at the price rn

It is literally 51 euros for pteraxii

[heady rivet]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/3e874568e2d076716a12bdbf54c1caca/2891c4266e6519e0-40/s400x600/3cd3e120b3989f23c13713604bf206ead5543da1.gif

NECROMUUUUUNDAAAAA, ONE GANG FOR THE PRICE OF ONE 40K UNIT RAAAAAAAAH

[storm jungle]

Big robot

[solid horizon]

maybe im mixing up, but that was definitely not the price in my shop

[arctic talon]

brother you are getting scammed

[solid horizon]

pteraxii skystalkers

[arctic talon]

if you are buying them for 75$

They are 51 euros from GW

[solid horizon]

not sterilyzors

yes but

shipping fees

[solid horizon]

and tax

national tax is big money

[arctic talon]

What country

[solid horizon]

fr*nce

[arctic talon]

they're still 51 euros

in france

[solid horizon]

well

they weren't

[arctic talon]

shipping is free at 100 euros spent as well

[solid horizon]

im not spending 100 bucks for flying dudes

[arctic talon]

if you are paying 75 euros at a brick and mortar store

you are being fucking scammed

they should cost under 50 Euros due to GW's discount program with LGS's

[solid horizon]

well

[arctic talon]

excluding tax

[solid horizon]

im not being scammed because I dont buy them

[arctic talon]

I don't know how much france taxes for that

[solid horizon]

taxes are big

[arctic talon]

Okay but why the fuck did you say the price was 71 euros

????

[solid horizon]

because I was checking price tags

[arctic talon]

that is like

a 50% tax

[arctic talon]

where? also I thought prices included tax in the EU

bcs you aren't ass backwards like the US

[solid horizon]

but also brexit

[arctic talon]

GW literally eats the tariff costs

explictly

GW eats the tariff costs as a producer

which most companies don't do, they literally talk about it in their investor reports

[solid horizon]

I was checking price tags at the store

[arctic talon]

44 euros is accurate for the flayed ones

well 45 euros

[solid horizon]

it's not an official/exclusive GW store so it's less expensive, but still expensive

[arctic talon]

They are literally scamming you

an actual GW STORE IS CHEAPER

[heady rivet]

@storm jungle What minis do you even own

[solid horizon]

would you believe this one isnt

[arctic talon]

IT IS LITERALLY CHEAPER FOR YOU TO GOT TO AN ACTUAL WARHAMMER STORE 💀

[solid horizon]

nah

[arctic talon]

YES

PTERAXII ARE NOT 71$

AT A GW STORE

[solid horizon]

the warhammer store there is not cheaper

literally no one buys anything there because its too expensive

[arctic talon]

Online prices are the same as in store prices for GW stores

so you are literally just lying now

[solid horizon]

I would like to clarify I maybe mixed price tags up

[arctic talon]

a store should not be charging 71 euros

for a fucking Pteraxii squad

[solid horizon]

pteraxii might have been 60ish euros

71 might have been a dunecrawler

[arctic talon]

they're still charging more then they should then?

dunecrawler is 67 Euros

[solid horizon]

tax I suppose

anyways

I got 2 secondhand pteraxii for five bucks so im happy

[arctic talon]

Import taxes are included

from GW

According to them

you are literally being scammed by that store

if these prices are real

well not scammed

[solid horizon]

nah fam im being scammed by the state

[arctic talon]

but you could be getting it cheaper

nah the store is scamming you lol

[solid horizon]

govt is in economic crisis and they're gaslighting themselves into thinking it's not the case

[arctic talon]

you're getting buttfucked by the small business instead of the big business 💀

[solid horizon]

you know what

next time I go there ill take photos of the price tags

[arctic talon]

please do

I'm curious

bcs GW pricing is the same online and instores always

[solid horizon]

it's not like anyone buys new minis anyways

[arctic talon]

so the store prices are accurate online for France

[solid horizon]

they have a pretty good secondhand mini store

[arctic talon]

actually wait

thats why

LOL

they want you to buy second hand

so new is more expensive

[solid horizon]

second hand is legit much better

[rose thorn]

i think they are done for now...

[solid horizon]

the randomness of what you can get is also neat

thats how I got my OG necron custom for christmas

[arctic talon]

I don't read french

but I think that says delivery to stores is free

[solid horizon]

that's still very expensive for a dunecrawler

[rose thorn]

why the fuck is it called an onager dunecrawler???????

[arctic talon]

based on English stealing words from french

[rose thorn]

what does onager even mena

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah GW is expensive

[solid horizon]

that was roughly the price I got my whole "start collecting" skitarii kit when it was released

[arctic talon]

Mule/Donkey

The Onegar is a converted STC template from the M.U.L.E

get it

[solid horizon]

vinegar dunecrawler

[arctic talon]

yeah well inflation is a bitch unfortunately

and I hate it

[solid horizon]

or as I like to call it

[arctic talon]

everything costs more now

[solid horizon]

dunager oncrawler

[arctic talon]

and people don't get paid more

God this used to be 85$ USD lol

I hate inflation

[solid horizon]

yeah I remember when I was little I dreamed about getting Imotekh one day because I kept seeing the price tag in white dwarf magazines

it was like

what

17 bucks back then ?

imotek must cost roughly 37 now

[arctic talon]

hey I got a question, what the fuck happened to the Euro

why does it look like that

inflation wise

[tough haven]

Man is it just me or does battlefleet gothic just feel a lot less fun after playing starsector

[arctic talon]

actually it happened with USD as well

what the fuck happened

wait no it was covid

goddamit

[solid horizon]

idk im not a professional gambler in a suit

[arctic talon]

I'd like to thank covid

for fucking up wealthy inequality even harder

whatever

I shouldn't complain

I have a job

even if its a shit one I hate

[solid horizon]

I like how the dunecrawler looks huge on this photo

IRL its a tiny vehicle

[arctic talon]

I mean its pretty fucking big lol

in terms of base size

the actual vehicle isn't that big

the base size really does make it seem way bigger then it is

[tough haven]

Like one of these games does fleet command way better

[solid horizon]

either I lost the base or one wasn't provided with the kit becuase mine doesn't have a base

huge base makes it hard for you to hide it on a tabletop game

[arctic talon]

probably lost it

It always came with a base

I remember seeing it in 7e and thinking wow that is a stupid huge base for a vehicle that small

and then getting obliterated by the Neutron laser's blast template

10/10

GW never balance like fucking 7e again

I love AP3 and powercreep

[solid horizon]

neutron laser is op but it's easy to miss

but also yeah I sitll have the skitarii booklet

wtf were those stats man

vanguards can just obliterate toughness if you attack them in melee

[arctic talon]

Neutron laser is normal

tbf

7e was just the final boss of powercreep

the edition

[solid horizon]

phosphor blaster is better because it shoots a lot of stuff

[arctic talon]

like it was very obvious GW did not give a shit lol

Phosphor is better rn

but its usually shit

I just like the neutron laser

lol

[solid horizon]

I've played different dunecrawler settings against knights

shooting more is better than shooting big

[arctic talon]

it is

bcs invulns

[solid horizon]

because if you miss one shot, you lose your turn for this vehicle

[arctic talon]

I just like the neutron laser

tbh

its that simple

also tbf the neutron laser has 3 shots

[solid horizon]

yeah but its easy to miss

its strong tho

[arctic talon]

yeah

but I don't care

If I wanted to play for meta I'd run phosphor

but meh

I can win fine with neutron

[solid horizon]

dunecrawler has good anti aircraft but who tf even uses aircraft nowadays

[arctic talon]

no one

the daedelus array is better at mulching marines anyways

arguably

[solid horizon]

eradication beamer looks funny but it's another one of those gambling guns

[arctic talon]

tbf

most big guns are casino guns

[solid horizon]

arguably ad mech's faction ability is very unbalanced

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

because our army's datasheets all fucking suck

lol

They had to give us the most broken army rule in the game