40k-lore-chat

[hollow lantern]

But

[vagrant fox]

Isn't it a rambling mess or was that another manifesto

[heady rivet]

Thats every manifesto

[hollow lantern]

Somehow drastically more literate than current day manifestos

[vagrant fox]

or manifestos in general

[arctic talon]

It’s a rambling mess

It’s self contradictory

It’s not like he’s stupid either

But he’s definitely insane

lol

[hollow lantern]

I don't think I've ever read a manifesto and then gone "yk what this guy was spittin"

[heady rivet]

Guy whose manifesto has "AND ANOTHER THING" 14 times

[arctic talon]

Columbo

[vagrant fox]

My friend is very yeah he's right but I've never looked into it much

[arctic talon]

Yeah they’re basically all batshit insane mumbling

[arctic talon]

Force him to read it

If he’s remotely not racist or sexist he’ll probably disagree with it like

1 page in

[vagrant fox]

I'm pretty sure she has too, which strikes me as odd if it's like that

[arctic talon]

Okay

So she agrees with what he says about women???

💀

Crazy

[vagrant fox]

That's what I'm wondering now 🤔

[heady rivet]

Ted is right purely in the sense the modern world is completely soulless and sucks but he pretty much was on a mission to bomb people and then found an idea he could use to justify it to himself

[vagrant fox]

I know she wrote a letter to the guy so maybe she's one of those serial killer folk, she's pretty lefty and not racist

I'll cause some drama later when I'm bored

[arctic talon]

LOL

[heady rivet]

I almost wrote a letter to him on behalf of a friend

But he died so

[arctic talon]

oh yeah nvm

he wrote a letter called "Apology to Women"

when he was in prison

LOL

[near wasp]

[heady rivet]

"I was not familiar with your game"

[vagrant fox]

that's quite funny

[arctic talon]

we're talking about insane peoples manifesto's

[vagrant fox]

I should write a manifesto

[arctic talon]

LOL

[heady rivet]

Guy who writes a manifesto and commits terrorism but his manifesto is just a fan theory and he didnt know how else to get people to read it

[vagrant fox]

Yeah, I've gotta include a bit about how AoS killed Old World for big pharma

[opaque coyote]

You open up the manifesto.

"Listen... Giltchtrap was actually Burntrap-"

[rocky gale]

My manifesto is gonna be leet

Gonna bury it in my walls for future generations to find

[heady rivet]

Remember that girl that forgot to unprivate her Google doc manifesto? EMBARASSING

[storm jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Rmt6ycNnAnk?feature=share

Huh so there IS fail state like Super Urf invasion

[vagrant fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648179640506122250/1469003724985864367/r0ck-kin-HD.mp4?ex=698613d4&is=6984c254&hm=9415e788755f0eaa8b19e26d2ea03e1ff433fe709d4bcdb33fc838f237464e97&

this is quite good

w/e tell me when we reach cyberstan so I can warcrimes

[arctic talon]

Yeah I’m hoping we either fail or we fail to take over Cyberstan lol

[storm jungle]

Same

tho i do love the uh

"they will make more factory worlds"

mfer thats gonna happen even if we win, Arrowhead doesnt waste map types lol

[storm jungle]

Though what i dont get is

why are people raging over this bar

[opaque coyote]

Khorne found it entertaining

[storm jungle]

like, these are barely even casualties

lol

[opaque coyote]

Clearly it's dissident lies made to make Super Earth look bad

[arctic talon]

I don’t get it either lol

It’s a fucking game

You don’t always win

💀

[storm jungle]

Yeah the comments are so unhinged

blaming Bugdivers again like people just can want to not play bots lol

[arctic talon]

people can play whatever they want lol

[opaque coyote]

Says the traitors, Super Earth always wins

[arctic talon]

its inane that people care so much

[vagrant fox]

as long as it's not squids naturally

[opaque coyote]

Okay that's enough super earth related jokes

[arctic talon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/helldivers-automaton-3

[storm jungle]

super earth propaganda jokes are some of the lowest form of humor ive ever seen

and im a 40k fan

[outer wave]

Too many tryhards in today's gaming scene it feels

[storm jungle]

that says a lot

[vagrant fox]

I'm a little puzzled by helldivers discord

[arctic talon]

I never joined it

[storm jungle]

What are they doing now

or do you mean in general

[opaque coyote]

We can go lower

[outer wave]

Never joined their discord either, not that I can

[storm jungle]

❌

[outer wave]

Phone verirfication sucks

[vagrant fox]

It's pretty funny

It's a very serious debate

[storm jungle]

????

are these people like

aware of how awful super earth is lol

[vagrant fox]

I don't know why I joined it in the first place but lurking results in some funny things sometimes

[opaque coyote]

after Super Earth arguably causes all of the factions to be aggressive towards them

[storm jungle]

Yeah thanks for confirming my suspicions that this place is just a fascist drinking hole

[outer wave]

Aliens that are like the Qu

If the squids were actually like the Qu, Im pretty sure Super Earth would be one giant bundle of living flesh by now

There would be no war

[opaque coyote]

Although I forgot what was the Illuminate's problem with Super Earth

Like specifically

[outer wave]

Just desperate flailing

[storm jungle]

Yeah and remember they genocided the Illuminate so hard they literally turned them into Dark Eldar

lmao

[outer wave]

IIRC, they tried to be friendly but Super Earth Govt wanted their tech and thought they were weird or something

[vagrant fox]

Like, it's very funny to look at in the very least

[opaque coyote]

Yeah we just pissed off all of the factions

[storm jungle]

????

metal gear's warning wasnt AI

it was information control

[outer wave]

THEY HAVENT TAKEN OVER THE MEDIA THOUGH

[storm jungle]

aka literally wahts happening now

lol

[outer wave]

THEY'RE NOT IN THE MEDIA

THEY DONT RUN IT

[vagrant fox]

something tired joke wall now

[outer wave]

Basically yeah, maybe except Terminids, because bugs

[opaque coyote]

I think they only did like a few "You are doomed, surrender or die" broadcast

[vagrant fox]

Terminids weren't so bad until Supa Erf

[opaque coyote]

I mean the bugs arguably have done the worst crimes since at least the other factions kept their sentience

It's the equivalent of enslaving and genociding people and turning them into livestock

[outer wave]

Yes, but its not like we pissed them off in any particular way; I know none of the HD1 lore, but I imagine it just wandered in and we needed to stop it

[opaque coyote]

Except the people are bugs

[storm jungle]

I highly suggest reading their main fandom wiki page. Basically the Illuminate were watching earth as far as now in the 21st century waiting for humanity to develop, then by the time super-urf made themselves a space faring society they extended a hand of diplomacy which super-urf spat on and denied.

Then they declared war on them after learning they had WMDs (which wasnt even true) then they completely destroyed their civilization, stole all their technology and essentially stripped the Illuminate of everything and sent them beyond the galaxy to die in the void as a race.

You can see why by the time they come back in HD2 they are completely hellbent on destroying humanity.

[opaque coyote]

wmds

Man I wonder what that's a reference to. Surely not another country beginning with I...

[vagrant fox]

Yeah terminids used to be sentient beings and just lived on a planet until Super Earth discovered they're oil and now we're here

[shadow plover]

here you go making gaming political again..........

[outer wave]

Yeah I dont blame them

[opaque coyote]

It's nice to know that some things never change

[storm jungle]

They also like

bio-fucked terminids EXTREMELY hard

they are barely even "sentient" now

they are basically hyper-bred monsters lol

[vagrant fox]

Yeah they got pugified

x10

[storm jungle]

^

[outer wave]

Oof thats rough, but I wonder if they're still senitent. Its not like we've seen them yet and apparently the terminids can get pretty big

[storm jungle]

So far we dont know

[opaque coyote]

So would it be equivalent to like

Turning humans back into homo erectus or some other earlier evolutionary ancestor

[storm jungle]

they are way more animalistic and barely look like their HD1 counterparts which were more oceanic/crab-like

they were in super earth slaughter farms for 100+ years

[outer wave]

Jesus

[storm jungle]

as Sig said they got pugified to absolute shit for harvesting purposes

[opaque coyote]

Also proves that Carcanization is clearly the peak of evolution

[arctic talon]

the tunneling bugs

[storm jungle]

its the same with the Illuminate being on exile outside the galaxy for that long

[arctic talon]

are more crab like

funnily enough

[opaque coyote]

That's why they reverted

[storm jungle]

and Cyborgs being enslaved for a century

[arctic talon]

they're becoming crab again

the Cyborgs aren't even genocidal

lol

[storm jungle]

with the promise that if they did "good service" under slavery they would be "free"

which never happened

[opaque coyote]

I think the Automatons are but not the original Cyborgs. They basically just wanted to be left alone.

[storm jungle]

Automatons follow the Borgs

so their wants is not really critical

[arctic talon]

The automatons are the Borgs subordinates

[storm jungle]

^

they are their rebel children

[arctic talon]

Them being violent and brutal in war is about what is expected bcs so is super earth

Super earth also recycles the dead

They do the same

The automatons and cyborgs are a mirror of super earth society

Just

Less evil

Marginally

They still have a bunch of propaganda indoctrination stuff

But whatever

[storm jungle]

Automatons also being brutal being brought up as a point is hilarious because super-earth literally does all the shit they do.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

Down to melting their enemies into trophies

or materials

lol

[arctic talon]

I literally said that

[storm jungle]

: )

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-dusk-nian-bean-gif-11284461232767828623

[rocky gale]

They also melt down their enemies to make trophies

[storm jungle]

Also turn automaton corpses into toilets

[arctic talon]

They just use dead bodies as trophies

Oh wait

[storm jungle]

which uh considering they are sentient is lmao

[arctic talon]

You meant super earth

lol

[lament shoal]

"It's not bad when super earth does it because they're the humans." Or "super earth doesn't do that."

[storm jungle]

Yeha basically this.

[arctic talon]

Reusing corpses is whatever

[opaque coyote]

HEART!
(STEEL!)

WE
(KILL!)

GET UP!
(ONTO WAR!)

CYBERSTAN!
(CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN!)

LEGION GO
(ONTO DAWN)

CYBERSTAN!
(CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN!)

GET BACK UP!
(ONTO DAWN)

[hollow lantern]

That one armor made out of melted automatons is pretty peak looking tho

[arctic talon]

It’s not that abhorrent

Tbh

[storm jungle]

Its the same reason say people never talk about how Native Americans got slaughtered to near extinction and were treated with nazi-tier warcrimes.

[arctic talon]

By sci fi standards

[storm jungle]

When you "win" nobody cares what you did.

[opaque coyote]

The Automatons are just more honest and don't bother hiding it

[hollow lantern]

Does the trail of tears even get taught in schools anymore

[storm jungle]

More or less.

[lament shoal]

Till now I thought they were saying "diver scum" instead of cyberstan for that one part

[storm jungle]

Now? Definitely not

MAGA regime is actively redacting history

[opaque coyote]

Me too honestly

[storm jungle]

and removing "woke" elements

[opaque coyote]

It depends on the state

[storm jungle]

Still happens so it doesnt largely matter on the State

[opaque coyote]

Florida and Texas? ❌

More blue states like California still have stuff like Trail of Tears

[storm jungle]

Same thing

[outer wave]

They're taking down historical monuments to native Americans like the Navajo radio talkers

[storm jungle]

Yep because again "DEI"

Anything the white man didnt build is bad

[outer wave]

What an insecure administration

[opaque coyote]

We should rip out all wheels from cars then

We should also not drink Coffee anymore

[outer wave]

We should take peanut butter off the shelves

[opaque coyote]

And Alcohol

[storm jungle]

like to give you an idea

[lament shoal]

Tacos for everyone, órale

[storm jungle]

this shit is so bad even Helldivers is parodying it lol

which is fucking insane

[rocky gale]

Saw a textbook where they basically reframed the forced resettlement as a good thing which protected the natives

And that it was all willingly done

[storm jungle]

The best part about "protected the natives" is even when Natives complied with resettlement and reservations they were just sometimes still simply slaughtered by white bandits, criminals and the army

even when you complied it didnt matter

its why i dont really blame some just went berserk

[opaque coyote]

The biggest problem is that you could argue the first point... sort of.

Okay not really.

You can argue that due to the USA's expansion. That it was an inevitability due to the government being assholes.

Not a justification just... "Hurr durrr might makes right".

The second point doesn't even have this flimsy justification

[hollow lantern]

Protected the natives from who? Said to the tune of "states rights to do what"

[storm jungle]

The Natives were basically living in their own little world tbh

[vagrant fox]

this is how it happened definitely don't google the beothuk people

[storm jungle]

god that illustration

genuinely sickening lol

[hollow lantern]

Man what the fuck

[opaque coyote]

Basically. With their own bloody conflicts, cultures, etc.

Were they all good? Fuck no.

But like people, they were complicated, and we basically disrupted that

[lament shoal]

This has gotta be a 90s era book or something lol

Maybe early 2000s

[hollow lantern]

I'm glad I had better history teachers who were passionate about history that actually happened

[storm jungle]

Yeah but it very much wasnt Aztec-tier. Tribes killed, feuded and did other stuff with each other but so has literally every single civilization even Europe since the dawn of time lol

[vagrant fox]

10 years ago

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I genuinely remember shit like that back in elementary school.

We also sung a Thanksgiving song that had children dress up as both settlers and natives. Singing together with handholding.

[lament shoal]

Yup, early 2000s, called it 💀

[storm jungle]

theres a reason my favorite parts in Red Dead 2 are the Native american missions where you slaughter US Army troops, those cocksuckers deserved worse lol

[opaque coyote]

Singing about thankfulness in general

...

Yeah I participated

[rocky gale]

That wasn't 10 years ago

[opaque coyote]

I wore a Native outfit

And by native I mean uhh

A feather headdress

I was like 8?

[vagrant fox]

There we go, I knew it was there. Same book

[storm jungle]

holy shit man

[lament shoal]

2016 is early 2000s to me

[opaque coyote]

Yeah this is basically my elementary school textbook

[rocky gale]

That's late 2010s man

[opaque coyote]

Like I think I had the same shit

[opaque coyote]

Although it isn't deserved. To play devil's advocate for a second.

How would you explain genocide to elementary schoolers and the complicated parts of American history?

[rocky gale]

Wasn't referring to you

[vagrant fox]

We had a native american themed thing in my kindergarten, I wore a fur vest like that slayqueen I was

[opaque coyote]

I know

This is more just

In general

[rocky gale]

Then why ping me!!!!

[lament shoal]

"Our government killed people and did a lot of other bad things to expand territory."

Easy

[opaque coyote]

Shai dhwjwidjjdrhw

Snskakks

[lament shoal]

Don't sugarcoat it

[storm jungle]

^

you dont hide history

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's definitely the best way. The problem is that some parents are apache military helicopters

"HOW DARE YOU EXPOSE MY CHILD TO VIOLENCE"

[lament shoal]

Be the javelin you want to see in the world

[rocky gale]

99 times out of 100, the answer to "how do we explain it to X" is to tell the truth

[opaque coyote]

The best way for that is to simply tell them to fuck off.

But the problem is that is...

We can't

[storm jungle]

I remember reading a statement from a wikipedia editor and he said editing/writing the pages regarding what happened to Native Americans was one of the most depressing and awful shit he ever had to read and document

[vagrant fox]

Acknowledge it, it's not like the kid reading it personally took part in it. Unless the child happens to be a trucker on the Highway of Tears

[languid meadow]

Kids aren't THAT stupid they can understand heavy topics

[storm jungle]

^

[opaque coyote]

Imagining a 5 year old whipping American natives now

[storm jungle]

Adults are the ones always thinking kids cant understand this stuff

[opaque coyote]

God I hate my imagination sometimes

[storm jungle]

Natives got treated worse than some world war victims in a few scenarios, its fucking awful shit

[outer wave]

Looking at all this, Im lowkey glad I was taught about the residential schools and Canada's pretty sketchy history with its civvies

[vagrant fox]

It's better than what actually happens at least

[outer wave]

Particularly with the First Nations and Metis

[storm jungle]

I have read accounts of US troops literally smashing babies to rocks and cutting the genitals of male/female natives and wearing them around their necks as trophies

and all this was documented by other troops who didnt wanna take part in this shit

💀

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, adults have the tendency to try and hide the darkness of the world to kids.

Especially if it's their own kids.

Problem is that the world is dark. And kids can generally understand at least some of it

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[outer wave]

Im glad someone documented it at least, but Jesus

[opaque coyote]

But due to our instincts, we always think "We shouldn't expose them to it."

[storm jungle]

He noted it by saying it made him question his faith in god lol

[outer wave]

It'd do that to anyone seeing that

[storm jungle]

and he just didnt do anything because he knew his teammates would probably kill him

which is uh 💀

[opaque coyote]

Yeah judging by the descriptions.

...

Yeah I would think God wouldn't exist

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[vagrant fox]

It's wild to me that Blood Meridian is based on true events

[storm jungle]

Same.

Like its funny in memes sure

but when you read the book man

it made me question a lot of things

Holden saying he just tempts/enables people to commit these atrocities is the most striking part

literally the most timeless message

still happening now

[opaque coyote]

Y'know, on a semi unrelated note.

I once questioned why people even had the idea of racism.

Then I read Nanking

...

I no longer question where the roots come from

Just blame the people that spread it

[storm jungle]

Because humanity has an inbuilt evoutionary quirk of hating stuff they dont understand or looks weird.

everyone in the world could look the exact same and we'd still find reasons to kill each other

[opaque coyote]

Worked when we were banging rocks together and tying them to sticks.

Doesn't work now

God dammit mother nature

[storm jungle]

[vagrant fox]

It's fairly evident we're quite closely related to chimpanzees in so many ways

[storm jungle]

yeah that

[opaque coyote]

Cause the worst part is that generally the more intelligent the animal is

The more cruel and racist they become

Dolphins

[storm jungle]

at least chimps didnt invent white phosphorus i suppose

[opaque coyote]

We were just (un)lucky enough to be intelligent enough

[vagrant fox]

Those fuckers would if they could

[opaque coyote]

Intelligent enough to be stupid.

[outer wave]

I think chimps would abuse it if they knew how sadly

[vagrant fox]

I really like, in a morbid way, that chimps have their own wars

[opaque coyote]

"A mouse wouldn't create a mouse trap" (referring to nukes)

Bitch if mouses had human level intelligent, they wouldn't just create mouse traps

They would create Mouse guns

[vagrant fox]

Once again, Khorne is proven the wisest and most correct god

[opaque coyote]

Also don't forget Ants

Who basically already live in 40k

"THERE IS ONLY WAR"

[outer wave]

Right now there is apparently a continent sized war between two species of ants

I think its happening on the west coast of Cali and BC?

Might be longer than that

[opaque coyote]

"FOR THE GOD QUEEN!"

"OUR MARTYRED LADY!!!"

[vagrant fox]

Yeah argentine ants have yuge supercolonies across hundreds of kilometers

One of the most invasive species too

[opaque coyote]

I wonder if God is just somebody with the equivalent of a glass Ant colony in their room

The ant colony being humans of course

[vagrant fox]

I'm too chad to be an ant

[opaque coyote]

He looks down

"Oh cool, what are they going to war over this time"

a tiny voice shouts out

"WMD's! WMD's!"

"Oh that's new."

[opaque coyote]

As a Californian

I will say that our ants will win

Clearly

The Los Angeles processed food and filth will mutate them soon

Soon, Ant space Marines will become a thing

With our Antmirachs

[outer wave]

I recall that at least one of them is invasive to the point that they pushed out local ant populations

Its BAD

[opaque coyote]

Skill issue ||/j||

Actually would that technically be what the Imperium did

Antperium

...an ant based tabletop actually sounds fun shit

[outer wave]

April Fools joke for GW where all models are replaced by ants

[opaque coyote]

Lmao

[celest dome]

Only race that could be even more war minded than human

[opaque coyote]

Genuine question for all of y'all.

So I thought of a scenario where like... a DAOT ship crashes into a Daemon planet due to bad luck + warp time travel to the future.

I'm thinking that they'll eventually all... well not die but... suffer from Nurgle.

But I need to ask three questions.

#1) How durable do you think they would be against daemons. Just give your idea or rough estimate. Like would DAoT era humans have defenses against possession?

#2) any descriptions of DAoT ships? Mainly to describe how it looks.

#3) How durable are Nurgle diseases? Like against common ways to get rid of or filter out germs and bacteria.

Things like air filters and all of that.

Cause I was thinking that they would actually be fine-ish against daemons attacking directly due to having DAoT tier weapons.

But Nurgle's diseases would basically slowly make them be incapacitated one by one.

[tough haven]

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amy ⚢ 🐦‍⬛ (@sister_ames)

nasa posting the Eye of fucking Terror

QRT: NASASpaceAlerts
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[opaque coyote]

Basically the DAoT ship would be a military one. Along with a ship based AI

Who would basically be the POV

And also be extremely fucking disraught at having all of their crew basically become shambling zombies begging for death

Enough to make a deal of sorts

[vagrant fox]

Vaguely, generic sci-fi seems to be the aesthetics

The shelf of rock – the surface of a small asteroid – finished seventy metres away, rearing up to form one side of a small cave. A mangle of structures, ice and rubble made up the majority of the rest, but one component stood apart from this; a spacecraft of a kind totally unfamiliar to the Space Marines. The greater part of the spaceship was buried in the mass of debris, but the side of it presented to them was undamaged by time or the shifting crush of the agglomeration. His sensorium could not penetrate its gleaming hull, but Galt estimated it to be around three hundred metres long, small by Imperial standards. It was clean of line and unembellished, which made the craft appear strange to Galt’s eyes. No Mechanicus runes marked its outer surface, nor were there any statues or artistic flourishes of any kind, yet in its functionality there was a clean aestheticism. It did not appear like any ship crafted by men, but Galt knew instinctively that this vessel had been built by human hands.

But, you can also have it look however you want. I'd look at Van Saar and Votann aesthetics and puzzle something out

[opaque coyote]

Yeah judging by the description, I am thinking of it being like clean and sleek like the USS enterprise

Or a Star Destroyer from SW

[vagrant fox]

it's not a ship but

`The Titan’s form was more elegant than the brutal designs of the Adeptus Mechanicus—its head rose above its shoulders instead of jutting from its chest as most Titans did and was protected by a high curved collar of armour. The collar swept out to form shoulder guards. Its face was featureless save for the eyes, but those were more than enough, burning with an intense green flame that licked up into the air above it. The plates covering its torso and limbs were a strange pearlescent grey-white and they wept rivulets of moisture, giving the Titan a sickly biological sheen. Instead of hydraulics and complicated joints, the Titan’s moving parts were connected by dense bundles of black fibres that contracted and expanded like muscles. It moved with a stately grace, every motion calculated and efficient.

It was as if every other Titan was a crude imitation of this one, replacing its alien-looking technology with crude mechanics. Alaric couldn’t imagine any forge world being capable of building such a thing. Even the most advanced xenos species, like the eldar or the creatures of the Tau Empire, couldn’t have fashioned a war machine so obviously superior to Imperial technology.`

It's a lot of room to play in, you could take 40k ships and just make them sleep and sci-fi instead of gothic

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I also thought of little touches like how most of the ship is managed via automatic systems

And how the Imperium using slaves is essentially a crude replacement

That is barely a quarter as efficient

I also thought of it being Nurgle infected. But in a weird way.

While walking within and looking outside. It would still look clean and pristine. Like brand new. But as soon as you look in the walls, it's completely infected. Like black mold.

Also would still function like it as well...

If you ignore the obvious shambling zombies and occasional blood writings pleading for help

[vagrant fox]

that's proper

[opaque coyote]

The AI would also basically still be saneish...

Okay not really but she won't be screeching at you and trying to kill you immediately

Only if you try and free their crew from their suffering

[jade holly]

THE WARP IS REAL LET’S GOOOOO

HORRORS BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION

[opaque coyote]

Basically the AI loved their crew and still loves them

But they love so much that they can't let go

Although they tried when they were more sane

But they cannot die. Not really.

Their life is tied to the AI.

The AI doesn't know this because Nurgle basically caused that.

[vagrant fox]

also this for the diseases and containing them but it also depends™
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/fnwp9m/excerpt_dark_imperium_how_guilliman_and_ultramar/

[jade holly]

Should I have gotten the 500 worlds books as a Necron fan?

[storm jungle]

Nope

the lore in it is very boring

The necrons in it are also Ammentars aka zero personality

[jade holly]

All I know from it is Titus did a dumb and released Ammentar

[storm jungle]

Nah he didnt release him

he just helped him get a piece of the Nightbringer fast lol

[jade holly]

That

Is worse

[storm jungle]

the book is very boring

[storm jungle]

the best part is

a dynasty was leaving on a ship WITH the shard KNOWING Ammentar was coming

so Titus stops it because racism

[jade holly]

Fucking whoops

[storm jungle]

and is gonna destroy the shard but a totally not heretek techpriest is like

NOOO WAIT CAPTAIN TITUS

TRUST ME, I CAN WORK WITH THIS XENOTECH :))

"Um okay"

fucking moron

lmao

[languid meadow]

We have another #racisim moment

[opaque coyote]

3rd time in a row

[storm jungle]

THEY LITERALLY TAKE IT PLANETSIDE

ANDLET THE TECHPRIEST WORK ON IT

[jade holly]

So does this mean the Destroyers are heavily intertwined with Aza’gorod?

[storm jungle]

THE AMMENTAR TAKES IT AT THE END OF THE BOOK

🥀

[opaque coyote]

Titus literally let someone trick him

3x

Now

[storm jungle]

YEAH

THE 3RD TIME

god what a fucking idiot

[jade holly]

If I had a nickel for everytime Titus was tricked with a Techpriest

I’d have 2 nickels

[opaque coyote]

Honestly if I was Titus. I would be absolutely fucking paranoid at this point.

[wintry scarab]

In 40k, who would you say is at the very top of the imperium? What party controls it/has the most power?

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Destroyer_Cult

Its suspected as a theory by 1 dynasty but its not confirmed.

[opaque coyote]

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

Fool me three times, fuck you.

[jade holly]

Leandros from the sidelines no doubt ecstatic

[storm jungle]

Guilliman.

[wintry cloud]

Titus doesn’t need a brain he just needs plot armor

[storm jungle]

Hes Imperial Regent

[arctic talon]

Guilliman is in charge rn

Also Titus is genuinely stupid

lol

[storm jungle]

hes such a moron

holy shit reading this book was painful

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I was thinking of the AI trying to cure the crew but uhhh

Failing miserably

[vagrant fox]

accurate to gamer standards

[opaque coyote]

Leandros proven right once again

[jade holly]

My fault Leandros, I wasn’t familiar with your game

[vagrant fox]

Yeah if it's one of them soul diseases there's not much to do I reckon

[wintry scarab]

Whos below guilliman then? The ecclesiarchy?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah basically. And the AI ain't exactly familiar with rituals and shit

[storm jungle]

High Lords

[arctic talon]

The high lords

[vagrant fox]

Custodes, High Lords of Terra

[storm jungle]

^

[languid meadow]

everyone

[arctic talon]

Inqusition as well

Technically

[languid meadow]

Gman is only 2nd to the emperor to 90% of people technically

[opaque coyote]

Again DAoT so they're really good at technology but don't know shit about the arcane aspects of the warp. Besides basics.

I'm unironically planning for the AI and the crew to call the daemons "hostile aliens of the warp".

[languid meadow]

but some don't see it that way

[jade holly]

Honestly there’s a layer of oh fuck in the idea of the cult of Necron’s hellbent on nihilistic destruction of all things life working with/for the literal personification of death

[storm jungle]

its explained in the codex

they are just attracted to him like locust

they dont really give a shit, they just wanna kill stuff

[jade holly]

The flayer virus was retconned into a curse by a C’tan too wasn’t it?

[storm jungle]

No it wasnt

it was always a c'tan curse

[jade holly]

Oh

[opaque coyote]

"me when I kill organic life because I am bored"

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Lexicanum.

Its over there

[vagrant fox]

necron is bugs

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-bee-spin-spinning-gif-23536667

[languid meadow]

bes

[opaque coyote]

bes

[wintry scarab]

Wait, so does guilliman even do war anymore? Or is he just exclusively a politian now?

[jade holly]

Show him a Word Bearer and he’ll do war

[storm jungle]

Yes and yes.

[vagrant fox]

Guilliman does war

[storm jungle]

He literally mutitasks

read his lexi page

hes juggling like 4-5 warzones

[vagrant fox]

kind of a -2 +2 hybrid

[languid meadow]

God that lion el johnson image fucking flashed in my head

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/nicolas-cage-wickerman-bees-gif-11008157

[storm jungle]

bad meme

[opaque coyote]

Love me a meme that is two decades old

[languid meadow]

I love how this no longer makes sense since Lioney is now doing random shit on Kronus

anyway all in on blood ravens being dark angel successors

[opaque coyote]

Actually would be a good explanation for the amount of artifacts they have

[languid meadow]

it was my first thought when they revealed him 2 months ago

I don't know why else he would be there outside of meta "we need to sell da model"

[opaque coyote]

Although personally

Tsons for the W

((please Emps I need this, my Legion's kinda corrupted))

[jade holly]

How often are the IW reveals happening?

[vagrant fox]

traitor geneseed for loyalists is strictly forbidden in my warhammers I'll have you know

[opaque coyote]

But yeah DA successors is much more likely

[languid meadow]

every monday since the 26th of jan

it seems

[opaque coyote]

Since if they were Tsons successors

[languid meadow]

since the first was 26th and the last was the 2nd

[opaque coyote]

Well... we would all be questioning why they don't suddenly get flesh changed

[languid meadow]

so next one is the 9th

[jade holly]

Which is most likely the new Defiler

[languid meadow]

9th and 16th are the next reveals is my bet

perty is prob the last one

[arctic talon]

it will be AoS legal

source: it came to me in a dream

[jade holly]

Are we even sure he’ll get one?

[arctic talon]

Prolly

Leaks are certain he’s coming

Maybe he got delayed

[languid meadow]

They seem deadset on getting all the primarchs back

[jade holly]

I’m so tempted to buy him when he releases and just keep him in the box until I actually start my IW army

But that would be a such a waste of time

[languid meadow]

also because one of the previews has his weird little shoulder rims

[vagrant fox]

someone should farm super credits for me

and kill perturabo

[languid meadow]

oh yeah they're finally adding the turkish dude that was teased all the way back in 2016 💀

10 years baby

[storm jungle]

2016???

he was no way even conceived at that point lol

the oldest planned hero here is Brigitte's cat

which Hammond the Fuckhead Hamster took its spot of at first

[languid meadow]

He's straight up in one of the oldest images for overwatch lmfao

[storm jungle]

Dude

[languid meadow]

He's now cybernetically enhanced and suffering from cyberpsychosis

[storm jungle]

that was just a fucking random team member

lol

LIKE HALF THE PEOPLE IN THAT PHOTO

you can tell because he barely even looks like Emre

[vagrant fox]

you're just mad because he's turkish

[storm jungle]

Well yes

but thats unrelated

anyway yeah thats all bullshit

they just picked that guy on the pic and wennt "yeah thats Emre trust us"

lol

[languid meadow]

He's always been refereed to as that

anyway

where's Mama Hong

where is she blizzard

[storm jungle]

No he never has

im an old overwatch grognard

you aint tricking me

And if he was again he was just an NPC character like everyone in that picture, that image is like 15 years old lol

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-valve-steam-meme-ai-gif-11963374429514166959

[languid meadow]

everyone in that photo is a character in the game you numbskull (except the black woman)

Idk who taht is

[storm jungle]

No they arent

SHES JUST A RANDOM PERSON

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE

[near wasp]

Guys guys this will make overwatch the number one hero shooter again we swear

[storm jungle]

raRAAARGHHHH

[near wasp]

Fr more people know about overwatch for its animators than about the actual game

[languid meadow]

design revealed in 2016
name given in 2018
name and face connected in 2023

SUCK

MY

NUTS

[storm jungle]

design reveal

GET OUT

[languid meadow]

I refuse to argue with you because you are SOULLESS

[storm jungle]

FUCK YOU

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-away-gif-13653609800890535042

[storm jungle]

Its like people saying Sojourn was completely totally planned from teh start

AND WAS JUST NOT A FUCKING AVATAR PICTURE IN THAT CINEMATIC REEL

GETOU-

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786208719200583710/1458483379686080532/wawawawawawawawawawawawawawa_bnuy.gif

[languid meadow]

who the hell is steve jobs

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-nite-owl-screaming-watchmen-gif-7626041

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-lake-coffee-drinking-relax-black-and-white-gif-12547460540050172657

[languid meadow]

unity has returned

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-mad-skeleton-gif-10886506202898815019

[vagrant fox]

dilaras was slightly desynced

[opaque coyote]

Skyrim Skeleton my beloved

[languid meadow]

https://vxtwitter.com/ExtremeBlitz__/status/2019205497824698729

duck (@ExtremeBlitz__)

https://t.co/GFk0j2wEi3

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Feb 5, 2026, 12:24 AM

[heady rivet]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/3e874568e2d076716a12bdbf54c1caca/2891c4266e6519e0-40/s400x600/3cd3e120b3989f23c13713604bf206ead5543da1.gif

[opaque coyote]

||real||

[storm jungle]

Brainrotplier

hate that guy

[opaque coyote]

I want to watch the Iron Lung movie

[near wasp]

You hate everybody

[opaque coyote]

If only out of curiosity

[storm jungle]

Well yes

[opaque coyote]

Dilara is actually just Skarbrand typing on a laptop

[near wasp]

Fr

[heady rivet]

You look like this rn

[storm jungle]

Hell yeah i love him

[opaque coyote]

God it's been a while since I saw his content

[storm jungle]

no because i got actual braincells

[opaque coyote]

Lemme check out his channel

[vagrant fox]

what the fuck is this

It's like the final boss of rantsonas

[opaque coyote]

His last video was 11 months ago and it's for Destiny 2

💔

[opaque coyote]

The channel is literally called I Hate Everything.

Ironically pretty chill

[wintry cloud]

Oh yeah you missed this

Heres your goat

[vagrant fox]

hate that

[opaque coyote]

Archaon was only there TO CONSULT WITH THE CHAOS GODS THAT HE IS GOING TO KILL

[wintry cloud]

Hey man after your kill count hits infinite you stop being the victim

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but he ain't no diddler smh

[wintry cloud]

Tru

He has an army of them though

[opaque coyote]

Archaon shouting from the cliffs

"GO MY DIDDLER ARMY"

[heady rivet]

Named P. Diddy
He diddles people

Did Kojima write this shit

[lament shoal]

The Man who Sold the Kids 💀

[opaque coyote]

It's even funnier when most historical names are basically just

Saying what it is

Like it usually translates to something like

"giant monster"

"big fuck off snake"

"mountain that kills you"

I mean

We call our planet dirt

The Kojima who wrote the world

[vagrant fox]

I do like how Jörmungandir basically just means big magic/spirit

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-gif-17503922776313795765

Weakest AOS W

[rose thorn]

God I lvoe this art so much, it’s so good 40K chuds use it in their videos when talking about Slaanesh

[opaque coyote]

Second guy is truly living the high life

Bro even has a tentacle to hold his drink

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it shows exactly what Slaanesh is about

Along with how powerful they are (even though in AoS their God is locked in the gooner cage)

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/anteater-southern-tamandua-cute-t-pose-animal-gif-24807270

[crisp heath]

Re-reading Horus Rising and I noticed a mention that (this is 1 year before Horus went traitor i think?) that terminator armor was still recent and some legions still didn't have access to it
It's probably the Saturnine pattern but I found it a pretty curious lil fun fact in the book that I forgot

[rose thorn]

its os funny because AOS slaanesh is much more graphic than in 40k

[crisp heath]

They had already gotten to the mk 4 power armor but terminator was just now being made for the legions? Kinda silly

[daring creek]

Yeah I think it was avaliable to mainly the emperors favorites

[rose thorn]

in the gardne of pleasures you encounter the slaanesh sex slave dungeon

[crisp heath]

The Luna Wolves were the first ones to receive it due to well, Horus being the warmaster
If I had to guess Blood Angels and the Dark Angels were probably the other ones to also receive it

Since to them being the other big favorites

[daring creek]

Where kevin hart kicks you in the balls, everyday.

[storm jungle]

Saturnine Armor was not even a concept for the Heresy when Horus Rising came out

you dont need to fill gaps the authors had no idea about

[daring creek]

Mhm

Probably the Imperial Fists too

[crisp heath]

Oh yeah I know, I'm saying that after Saturnine turned canon concept

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[storm jungle]

It was always canon, just uhhh not that well used

[crisp heath]

Probably not since they were called back to Terra to fortify the defenses

[daring creek]

Oh right

[crisp heath]

A shame because Saturnine is probably my favorite terminator armor mark tbh

I love how big they look

And cartoonish rotund

[rose thorn]

new lumineth rules

[crisp heath]

Just a lil shadowed by the Cataphratii pattern

Because that one goes hard

[daring creek]

I need to finish horus rising

I keep having these arcs of reading and not reading :(

[fervent geode]

The early terminator heavy legion was ironically the Death Guard iirc

They fought in many Zone Mortalis wars and Space Hulk boardings wherein Terminator Armour was effective

That's why we have Grave Wardens and Deathshroud

Also Terminator Armour is very good for ENDURANCE

[crisp heath]

I get it but mine has been re-awakened by my 40k hyper-interest

Stopped reading the silly Judge Holden book to re-read the Heresy

Will see if I can get back to Fulgrim and then look at some other books I can read

[daring creek]

HR is prolly gonna be the only horus heresy book I read

[crisp heath]

Where did you stop at

[daring creek]

Im half way thru

I plan on continuing it

Man I love transit

So fucking reliable!!!!

[crisp heath]

My favorite part is still the first time Samus is talked about

And Keeler going "I heard it, and I don't have a vox."

[daring creek]

5 minutes
suddenly its 6 minutes

Fuck offff aausehehehehdjd

[daring creek]

Yeah lmfao

[arctic talon]

Those go hard

[wintry cloud]

Magic for magic it is

Man these look hilarious

Big birds are finally wizard 3

[crisp heath]

How likely is to write a chaos space marine warband to steal the corpses of fallen enemy astartes to reproduce the primaris surgery on themselves

[fervent geode]

They have retrieved Primaris corpses

For examination and potentially experimentation

[crisp heath]

But any actual success?

[fervent geode]

The Alpha Legion warbands in Harrowmaster and Fabius Bile are both known to have done so

[fervent geode]

Replicating the surgery is a much more complicated affair

[crisp heath]

Then my homebrew warband shall be the next

[fervent geode]

As far as we know they haven't

They lack the knowhow and the technology used in the Primaris induction process

Its possible Bile could

If anyone

[crisp heath]

I mean they could probably find it since they have compromised an entire forge world by making deals and partnership with the main fabricator

[fervent geode]

A Forge World wouldn't have it chances are

Cawl is a maverick who keeps away from the rest of the Mechanicus

That's why Bile had to attempt to raid the Zar Quaesitor itself

[jade holly]

Alpha Legion is like the one chaos legion that could have Primaris marines purely due to the fact how many are currently slithering about within loyalist territories ngl

[fervent geode]

They don't as far as we know

At least in Ultima Segmentum

[crisp heath]

Oh I see that kind of complicates things

[fervent geode]

Yeah Primaris Tech for chaos is quite difficult unless Fabius works something out

[opaque coyote]

Sad tbh

We can't get the true slaaneshi™ experience

[fervent geode]

And Fabius' services do not come cheap, nor is it confirmed he has worked out the Primaris Induction process despite numerous experiments and tests on living subjects.

[opaque coyote]

Aka the probing that aliens do in 1950's movies being considered the foreplay

[arctic talon]

Fabius also seemingly isn’t super interested

In making primaris

He just wants to work on his New men

[crisp heath]

How strong are primaris against like firstborn marines again?
Like one primaris is worth at least 2 firstborns isnt it? I remember when they were first introduced said they were at least worth 5 firstborns but that was watered down iirc

[shadow plover]

Lemme gush a moment; same sculpt by the way

[fervent geode]

Something like that iirc

[crisp heath]

For how he spoke to Cawl himself about it he surely was disappointed by it and probably why he hasn't actually really tried to mimic it

[fervent geode]

We see CSM struggling with their increased size and capabilities in Harrowmaster

[opaque coyote]

Fabius being a better father to his New Men than the Emperor was to his sons

It

[fervent geode]

And Apocalypse

[opaque coyote]

Speaks a lot about the Emperor tbh

[jade holly]

What if the IW started creating special Daemon engine infantry to replace legionaries?

[fervent geode]

The Emperor hasn't sold his sons to Slaanesh nor the Drukhari so

[arctic talon]

No point

They do also have smaller daemon engines

But they’re for specialist roles

[crisp heath]

Yeah but I figured they can still hold their own for a bunch of reasons
Either mutations, old weaponry lost to the Imperium and "cowardly" strategies

[opaque coyote]

He actually explicitly refused that. He himself submitted to Slaanesh under the condition that the New Men could decide their own fate.

[fervent geode]

He sold their worship to Slaanesh iirc

And he has given up several to the Drukhari

[arctic talon]

Also

Primaris aren’t that much better then marines

[crisp heath]

I lowkey believe they wouldn't do that to the fact they might see themselves above the daemon engines and just use them as specialized tools

Instead of actual front line forces

And because lowkey they're more expensive to make than new marines

[fervent geode]

Basically yeah and also 10k years of experience fighting in hell

[fervent geode]

Yeah Firstborn can fight them off

[crisp heath]

I mean not every csm is a heresy vet but they still hold

[fervent geode]

They still have experience fighting in hell

And daemonry/sorcery as seen in harrowmaster

[crisp heath]

Just making sure
They were told to be the equivalent of 5 firstborns when they were first introduced but then GW backtracked for obvious backlash
They're just a lil better but not that to completely outshadow firstborns

Because some chaos space marines would just die out

[crisp heath]

True
Still would like to have some of my characters in the warband to try to mimic the primaris in their story for the shits n giggles and write their failures and how they some times just find out some neat specific mutations

[fervent geode]

Wdym mimic

[crisp heath]

Copy the rubicon surgery

[rose thorn]

.... huh?

[fervent geode]

That would be very hard uh

The Rubicon wasn't that safe for a while even for loyalists

The organs required for the Rubicon would also presumably need to be cultured and obtained with the help of an apothecary with knowledge of the Rubicon Primaris

Chances are its a painful death

[opaque coyote]

Excerpt from Manflayer. It seems that Fabius's intentions was to keep them untouched. Although of course, I don't expect the Chaos Gods to really honor that deal. It was at least his intention for them to be merely protected.

He leaned close, and Fabius could smell the celestial rot beneath his perfumes.

‘You come here to ask for my help. This is my price. This is Slaanesh’s price. Do as you are meant to do, and your creations will be spared the coming storm. We will take them under our wing, Fabius. We will teach them and guide them. I was the greatest of teachers in my day. I look forward to tutoring them in new ways to shout, revel and kill.’

‘You will do nothing of the sort.’

Fulgrim reared, as if in shock. ‘But that is the bargain.’

‘The bargain is for their safety. From you, as well as my other foes. My creations – all of them – will be left unmolested, to find their fate as they see fit.'

‘And if they choose to serve us, as dear Melusine did?’

Fabius was silent for long moments. ‘Then that is their choice.’ He looked up at Fulgrim. ‘Unlike you, Father, I have learned from my mistakes.’

Fulgrim smiled. ‘And that is why you are mya favourite, Fabius. Rather than making the same mistakes over and over again, you make brand new ones. It keeps things ever so interesting.’

He turned, head tilted as if listening to some voice that Fabius could not perceive. A moment later, he turned back.

‘Agreed. A good bargain.’

‘Very well.’ Fabius turned. ‘I will take my leave now.’

'Oh no. Not yet.’ Fulgrim swiftly encircled him. ‘First, a sign of fealty is required.’

'What sort of sign?’

Fulgrim’s smile was wider than his face. A moment later, the garden ceased to be. It blew away like dust, taking with it Fulgrim and Melusine, leaving only the black and the stars between.

[crisp heath]

Yeah which is why I'll just have them make some of their test subjects either die or just grow out mutations from it

[fervent geode]

Hmm interesting thanks

I seem to have forgotten

[fervent geode]

Fair enough then

[opaque coyote]

Yeah he made this deal to specifically protect them from the Deldar also

[fervent geode]

He cares for them as a species

To replace man

[opaque coyote]

Yup. He doesn't really care for them as individuals tbf.

[fervent geode]

Ofc

Why bother with one new man over all of em

[opaque coyote]

Although it's still interesting how he accepted that he would die if they were to ascend to become the replacement of man

But also fully accepted that and welcomes it

Which is awfully weird for Bile

[fervent geode]

It was his lifelong project, the next evolution, he would be completely vindicated and would have won in a sense

[opaque coyote]

But this is what makes him the interesting, hypocritical, and arrogant mad scientist he is

Love him

[fervent geode]

Insane yet sane

[opaque coyote]

...and also still more care than the Emperor had for the primarchs

[fervent geode]

Really depends on the Primarch

[opaque coyote]

True

[fervent geode]

Those were individuals

[opaque coyote]

I can see Emps sacrificing himself for like

Pre-fall Horus

Maybe Sanguinius

Definitely not the others

[fervent geode]

Sanguinius, Guilliman, maybe even

Mortarion

[opaque coyote]

Pfft

Nah not Mortarion

[fervent geode]

He put himself in a situation Mortarion could've wounded him very badly

In Lantern's Light

[opaque coyote]

Oh true

He does have future sight though

So maybe he was like

"nah he totally wouldn't"

[fervent geode]

And in Daemonology he through Malcador let Mortarion in on the true purpose of the throne

[opaque coyote]

Okay damn

[fervent geode]

He describes to Ra Endymion as trying to cross the English Channel

He can try to see whats there but he cant be sure or know how

[opaque coyote]

Ofc the Emps uses the English channel as an analogy

[fervent geode]

Yuh lmao

He once cared a lot for Fulgrim too

His favoured son

[opaque coyote]

I feel bad for Malcador the most tbh

Like

Bro had two bad dads

[fervent geode]

Wdym?

[opaque coyote]

He never even got the CHANCE to get a good parental figure

[fervent geode]

We dk who Malcador's parents were

Or much about his past

Besides Brahm al Khadour

[opaque coyote]

Firstly has his shithead adoptive dad.

Next the Emperor, who even though he favored Malcador, he uh... wasn't exactly the best dad even at his best.

And finally Nurgle

[fervent geode]

Oh Mortarion

[opaque coyote]

Sorry not Malcador

Mortarion

[fervent geode]

The Emperor really tried with him

[opaque coyote]

Brain short circuited

[fervent geode]

He listened to his advice at Nikaea

He had a dad talk with in Lantern's Light

[opaque coyote]

...that was probably the worst place to hear out Mortarion's advice ngl

[fervent geode]

Saved his life on Barbarus

[fervent geode]

Eh but he it shows he did hear out the Pale King imo

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Magnus didn't help his case either

Because

Magnus

[fervent geode]

I blame the "Amon" entity most

[opaque coyote]

I mean the Emperor still isn't exactly the best dad even when he's trying his best

Which could be forgivable... if it weren't for his other sons

[fervent geode]

Probably

But unlike with Angron, Curze or Lorgar

I think he loved Morty, in his weird way

[opaque coyote]

"Hmmm, I want Lorgar to stop venerating me as a God. Gasp I know what to do!"

[fervent geode]

Smash it all up

[opaque coyote]

"Guilliman!"

"Yeah dad?"

[fervent geode]

And call him a failure

[opaque coyote]

"BURN DOWN MONARCHIA"

"DAD WHAT THE FUCK"

[fervent geode]

Basically

[opaque coyote]

"Okay shouldn't we evacuate the citizens?"

"NO."

[fervent geode]

Wait they did

They evacuated the vast majority

[opaque coyote]

I swear people still burned down

[fervent geode]

They did

Those who refused

[opaque coyote]

Oh

...still awful

[fervent geode]

Yeah true

[opaque coyote]

Hm

Alright I guess I will upgrade Mortarion in "Emperor's favorite sons" tierlist

[fervent geode]

I think he cared for: Horus, Ferrus, Dorn, Mortarion, the Lion, Guilliman, Fulgrim, Sanguinius, Vulkan, Leman, Magnus and Corax

The rest not so much

Wait

[lament shoal]

He was willing to try and work things out with Magnus after his mistake, before Horus and Russ fucked it up

[fervent geode]

Yeah i remembered that

And him offering redemption to Magnus at the siege

Not to mention their psychic communication before they even found Prospero

Malcador ironically seems to have had a good relationship with Alpharius, Leman and possibly Lorgar at some point lmao

[fervent geode]

Ironically the Khan who was never too close with stood with him in the end

At least he healed his fatal wounds

[opaque coyote]

I find it funny that Corax is there

Despite kinda him and Khan basically being in the

"I would rebel but Chaos sucks ass"

Club

[fervent geode]

I mean he did, show more attention to Corax

Corax was never against his ideals like the Khan was

[opaque coyote]

Which is kinda stupid tbh

[fervent geode]

Corax is uh, funky

[opaque coyote]

And is why the Khan is easily the most based

[fervent geode]

Among the loyalists defo

[winter pine]

Wasn't Corax just kind of huffing copium on "sure the emperor is an asshole tyrant just like the slavers on Delivervance but it'll totally be worth it in the end"

how'd that turn out for you buddy

[fervent geode]

Yeah he was

Except iirx

He saw dad as different

From the Lords of Kiavahr

He saw all the Imperium shit as a necessity

[opaque coyote]

...in my opinion the Khan Heresy would've been more interesting

[fervent geode]

Since the God-Emperor explained the warp and chaos to him upon their first meeting

[opaque coyote]

God dammit Horus

[opaque coyote]

Yet he didn't explain it to his son who fucked with the warp the most

[fervent geode]

The Khan wouldn't turn because of wtf the traitors were becoming and choaz

[opaque coyote]

[opaque coyote]

Yeah was more so thinking of him starting the Heresy

[fervent geode]

He had high expectations of Magnus, very misplaced ones

[opaque coyote]

Instead of Horus

[fervent geode]

Hmm maybe

But he had few friends unlike Horus

[winter pine]

Khan seemed more like he'd just go AWOL and vanish with his legion instead of leading a rebellion

[fervent geode]

Yeah sounds more like him

He knew the Imperium was full of shit

[winter pine]

retiring to some backwater middle of fucking nowhere plant to hold motorcycle races year round

[fervent geode]

But he wasn't an idiot

[nocturne crest]

So odd question, but which table top units in 40k look like civilians the most?

[winter pine]

reserving my laughs in advance for when GW brings him back and the backstory is that he did just fake his death and go AWOL, somehow

[nocturne crest]

I'm wondering if it's possible to do an admech or necron army that looks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYw_gTWYssM

[storm jungle]

Most of the Munda range

id say go to the store and handpick

[nocturne crest]

You can do that?

Or just look at the box sets in store?

[storm jungle]

theres quite a bit of singular models in there

[nocturne crest]

Really?

[storm jungle]

Yes lol

go and look

[nocturne crest]

Huh.

Also, off topic, but they're selling Doctor Who tv props in an auction, if anyone is interested.

[heady rivet]

Hive Scum from Munda are just dudes. TONS of hanger-ons too. Of course everyones a little armed, but thats to be expected in a lot of the Imperium. For a totalitarian state, they're also that militarist that Jimmy the slag-shoveler is packin heat

Also the hanger-on minis are just generally peak

[winter pine]

Corpse Grinder guy in that last image?

[rose thorn]

I lvoe the look out he’s just chill af

[heady rivet]

Cadaver merchant, sell corpses to whoever wants em

Docs, cannibals, what have you

[solid horizon]

Man these necrons need to slow down on ozempic

[arctic talon]

Gsc and necromunda

[heady rivet]

Everything GSC has is just industrial equipment and its a killer aesthetic

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Their aesthetic is industrial workers rising up

[lament shoal]

The killdozer

[heady rivet]

NEED to grab one day

[arctic talon]

The funniest shit is the guns are not added on

The thing comes with them

[near wasp]

Glory to marvin

[solid horizon]

Too bad it's jeanstealer cult

[arctic talon]

Run it in munda

Coward

[heady rivet]

Civilian vehicle with dual fifty cals

[arctic talon]

Alright the mortar and guns that aren’t 50cals are extra lol

The only one it’s meant to come with is the rocket launcher

lol

[heady rivet]

Its like the worlds most easily "anything you want" vehicle you can just not out the cultists and their symbols on

[heady rivet]

Recreational.

[arctic talon]

The missile launcher comes out of the box smh

[heady rivet]

That mortar is medicinal, Arbitrator

[arctic talon]

The mortar and laser are not

[rose thorn]

PEAK, JOIN US

[arctic talon]

Me explaining to the Palanites that my inferno pistol is an emotional support tool

https://tenor.com/view/gun-show-off-gif-6471047879258699468

Average gang champion tbh

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/boston-police-epic-slide-epik-gif-5506523414108829490

Sir put your hands on the Tauros

[arctic talon]

I am a loyal member of House Orlock and I will not be harassed by Helmwar’s goons

[solid horizon]

true true, but still

[wary fulcrum]

Necromunda has the best minis, won’t lie

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-unmatched-power-of-the-sun-sun-power-cop-gif-22776276

[solid horizon]

heretek and criminal doc guy go hard

[heady rivet]

Gentleman...this is Imperium manifest. What is the charge? Drinking some Wild Snake? Some some succulent Wild Snake?

[wary fulcrum]

The Fixer?

[arctic talon]

There’s like

4 fucking rogue doc minis

💀

[wary fulcrum]

Two are rogue docs, the others are character rogue docs

[solid horizon]

doctor arachnos

[heady rivet]

Fixer looks like a guy walking into his shitty office job after the check engine light came on in the parking lot

[arctic talon]

my stupid chud ground car

[wary fulcrum]

‘The fuck do they mean the .50’s need replacing? Charging 500 credits is spidershit’

I love the Eightfold Harvest Lord’s lore

Dude literally vibrates in and out of real space

[storm jungle]

speaking of

can Ozzy wake up the Ancient Gods™ yet

I need that fat fuck Trumpmawr to die, NOW

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[wary fulcrum]

Nah, he got better

[storm jungle]

I read the book. I hate it.

[heady rivet]

Another 20 trillion to Hive Secundus

[wary fulcrum]

The ancient gods are on Helmawr’s side

[storm jungle]

What gets me is like

you exect Ozzy to actually be a proper discrete ruler

but NOPE

[arctic talon]

Ozzy like

💀

[storm jungle]

• Day 1 in office

[heady rivet]

Final boss of hype moments and aura farming

[storm jungle]

• Renames planet to Aranthus Prime

[arctic talon]

Tbf

[storm jungle]

• Makes people worship him instead of the Emperor

like

are you fucking crazy

[arctic talon]

He’s putting it back to how it should

[storm jungle]

no wonder he got ousted

[arctic talon]

Jokes aside yeah

He kind of went hog wild

[heady rivet]

Exterminatus Speedun any%

[wary fulcrum]

I like the idea he absolutely had no idea how big the imperium was

[arctic talon]

Tbf he fucking doesn’t