40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

Probably because I wasn't alive during the 90's

This is also why wild wasteland exists

[solid horizon]

fallout 2 is a bit silly ngl

[crystal forum]

i think NV outshines 3 due to the writing but without 3 there wouldn't be NV

[opaque coyote]

And it unfortunately kinda dates the game even further

[solid horizon]

probably the most parodic fallout out there

[solid horizon]

I was lynched on instagram for saying this

[opaque coyote]

I would unironically kill for a remake of the first two Fallout's in the open world style

[solid horizon]

NV fanboys are crazy madlads

[crystal forum]

3 did all the hard work with the coding and sruff

the engine

a lot of the models

[opaque coyote]

NV was basically a large mod for FO3 let's be fair here

[arctic talon]

Bethesda deadass made fallout much more aesthetically interesting

there's some stuff the old games did that was cool

[solid horizon]

man I remember playing fallout 3 for the first time when I was in middle school

[arctic talon]

but bethesda really made it into what it was aesthetically

lol

[crystal forum]

i just dont like where they went in 4 but im hoping 5 will shift the series to something else

[solid horizon]

and it blew my mind aesthetically

[arctic talon]

4 is like

a mixed bag for me aesthetically

[crystal forum]

4 aesthetics are too cartoonish

[arctic talon]

I love some of the stuff in it

and hate other stuff in it

[opaque coyote]

Bethesda basically saved Fallout in general.

Since the last release before that was uh

Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel

Because clearly when you think of Fallout, you think of fucking Slipknot and Linkin Park

[crystal forum]

like i think boston look terrible

[arctic talon]

you forgot Bawls

[solid horizon]

fallout 4 is kind of the mike myers version of fallout 3

[arctic talon]

Tourist

smh

BAWLS

[vagrant fox]

Bethesda, as much as I don't really like Fallout 3, did a pretty good job all things considered

[arctic talon]

ARE THE REAL ENDGAME

OF BROTHER HOOD OF STEEL BABYYYY

[solid horizon]

90% of the content is paraphased stuff from fallout 3

[opaque coyote]

B a w l s e n e r g y .

Truly what the series is missing

[crystal forum]

3 is depressing and dark. a wasteland shouldn't be full of bright colors

[arctic talon]

I think its fine

that Fallout 4 is so colorful

[solid horizon]

Fallout 4 stopped being moral

[arctic talon]

I think some other aesthetic stuff I'm more iffy on

but I think the color was not one of them

[opaque coyote]

How do I say this

Fallout 3 looks like it went through a nuclear apocalypse.

Fallout 4 looks like Detroit or Cleveland

[solid horizon]

fallout 1 2 and 3 had very moralizing messages

[arctic talon]

Tbf

Fallout 3's moralizing message kinda sucked

[solid horizon]

my hometown looks more apocalyptic than fallout 4 ngl

[arctic talon]

LOL

[surreal nest]

I like the aesthetic of fallout 1 the most

[arctic talon]

Fallout 4 looks like a warzone

[solid horizon]

the main quest yeah maybe

[arctic talon]

not an apocalypse

[solid horizon]

but the sidequests were the real deal

[arctic talon]

aside from the glowing sea

the glowing sea is

absolutely an apocalyptic shithole lol

[solid horizon]

far harbor is probably the only good thing in fallout 4

[arctic talon]

fallout 1 is the only good fallout game and all other fallout games are bad/j

[solid horizon]

if only it didn't have the long ass hacking sequence

[surreal nest]

Thank you finally someone with bawls

[arctic talon]

anyways relevant to fallout 2

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/209843216227368962/1461402787677077605/IMG_6755.png?ex=697e3368&is=697ce1e8&hm=706592e536b530d6fca9fd540cf0d68c5da33cb00a2d7d0f7a5468363eef6449&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=461&height=929

[opaque coyote]

Yeah 3 honestly has the worst writing for the recent games. Especially pre-broken steel.

I am also including 76 btw.

"Hey Fawkes, you grabbed the GECK for me right?"

"Yeah?"

"How about you input the password in?"

"Nah it's your destiny!"

"Destiny? I don't wanna fucking die!"

[solid horizon]

fallout 1 is super easy

[crystal forum]

i really like point lookout in fallout 3. it's such a bleak landscape

[solid horizon]

average ogryn dialogue

[solid horizon]

what about the pitt

[lament shoal]

WIP

[solid horizon]

escape from new york mad max

[crystal forum]

also i think fallout 2 had amazing gory death animations

[arctic talon]

very cool Kasrkin

[opaque coyote]

Worst part is that even after they included it.

The ending slide calls you a fucking coward

[lament shoal]

Ty!

[crystal forum]

yeah it's good too

i unironically enjoyed the DLC's more than main game in 3

probably because brotherhood wasnt involved

[vagrant fox]

As you should, they're the better part

[arctic talon]

Fallout 3 ending in a nutshell

[solid horizon]

same energy

[arctic talon]

brotherhood of steel and brotherhood outcasts are deadass both boring as shit

in Fallout 3

[opaque coyote]

Something that I wish would be in the modern Fallout games but probably won't be.

Is more detailed gore basically.

Like being able to shoot people's arms off. Or slice them in half.

But likely due to open world + Bethesda + Creation Engine.

It likely won't happen.

[arctic talon]

they're more interesting in 4, marginally

[crystal forum]

they're just generic good guys in 3

[arctic talon]

well

[opaque coyote]

The creation engine isn't even bad btw

[arctic talon]

you learn they're racist if you go to underworld

lol

but thats about it

[opaque coyote]

It just has a lot of weird limitations

[solid horizon]

they were generic good guys in 1 too ngl

[arctic talon]

yeah

[solid horizon]

master bad

[opaque coyote]

Like every other engine

[arctic talon]

aside from being assholes

lol

[solid horizon]

dudes in armor in their sand castle good

[crystal forum]

i have to give credit to 4 for at least not glazing the brotherhood all the time

[arctic talon]

they're being the good guys™

[rocky gale]

That's already in Fallout 4 for Ghouls

[opaque coyote]

And sending you to a literal death mission where their soldiers didn't come back

And clearly didn't expect you to

[rocky gale]

There's mods which apply it to humans too

[arctic talon]

thats being an asshole part

[arctic talon]

imo they didn't expect you to try doing it

not that they didn't expect you to live

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it's funny how they were like

[solid horizon]

"I heard you guys eat alive babies"
-whatever makes you feel good I suppose."

[arctic talon]

4 and NV have the most critical depictions of the brotherhood of steel

lol

[opaque coyote]

"Oh God damn you actually succeeded."

[arctic talon]

1, 2 and 3 are all

yeah they're like not evil

and good guys

mostly

they're kind of assholes though sometimes

[solid horizon]

I liked the thing in fallout 1 in junktown

[crystal forum]

NV specifically has a shitty outcast sect of the brotherhood so it barely counts as being critical

[solid horizon]

when you save the good guys the city dies

[opaque coyote]

I think 4's direction makes sense. It's just a tad bit boring even compared to 3.

Feels like bootleg 40k space Marines honestly.

[arctic talon]

eh

they've always been that way

lol

I think FO1 having them be part of the world and trading with outsiders

is the most unique they've been lmao

[crystal forum]

i havent seen the show wolf, how are they depicted

[opaque coyote]

Somewhat true but it's especially exaggerated in 4.

All they need is to purge the heretic

[solid horizon]

full metal jacket marines

ad mech

[arctic talon]

This branch of the brotherhood are explictly a bunch of fucking dumbass losers

so

[crystal forum]

i hope we get a depiction of the brotherhood where they're straight up evil lol

[arctic talon]

they're depicted as a bunch of jocks and nerds

Scribes and some squires are 🤓

[solid horizon]

isnt that the enclave tho

[arctic talon]

The Knights are all a bunch of crayon munchers

[crystal forum]

i think fallout van buren was supposed to have an evil brotherhood

[vagrant fox]

There's a comment about how it's a weirdass chapter, which it is

[arctic talon]

yeah

[crystal forum]

pretty much yeah

[arctic talon]

van buren had the brotherhood be actively hostile

yeah

but van buren also sounds like it would have been ass

lol

[vagrant fox]

Washington Brotherhood lets goooo

[solid horizon]

elder lions el johnson

[arctic talon]

oh als

[crystal forum]

its best contribution to humanity was inspirations for OWB mod

[arctic talon]

also

they had another NCR leak from the set

for the show

lol

[crystal forum]

how many episodes are left

[arctic talon]

1

there's going to be another season though

[opaque coyote]

Honestly trying to make a homebrew fallout setting for giggles.

Evil BoS is one of the factions.

I wonder if I should have it take place in Ohio or Nebraska.

[arctic talon]

I'm assuming this episode is going to end the season on a cliffhanger

[solid horizon]

CHICAGO

[crystal forum]

that's a given

but the real question is where the next season will take place

[arctic talon]

Probably New vegas(still) with some stuff in California

[solid horizon]

🗣️ BACK FROM THE LAND OF CALIFORNIA, TO MY SWEET HOME, CHICAGO

[arctic talon]

oh also

[crystal forum]

imagine they go to colorado and just straight up rip off OWB

[arctic talon]

they reused the T-45 prop

for more prewar stuff lol

[crystal forum]

i just think that would be the funniest timeline

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, yeah I also thought of it taking place in multiple states. But generally around lake Michigan + others

[solid horizon]

I like the show t45 is slimmer than fallout 4/76 p,e

[arctic talon]

I like how the shows power armor looks in general

not how it moves that much

but how it looks is really good

[crystal forum]

the show creating new lore in unused states would be wild

[solid horizon]

fallout 4 retconnned the whole thing of t45 being the first power armor and not really having a proper exoskeleton

[arctic talon]

I way prefer it to the anorexic power armor in 3 and NV

[crystal forum]

what if they head east to arizona

[arctic talon]

and the way too bulky Power armor in 4 and 76

[crystal forum]

legion land

[opaque coyote]

Nah wasn't the first part still canon?

T-45 being the first

[arctic talon]

They might, they had an ending diorama in Arizona

with legion tents and shit

but the Ending dioramas are non canon

[opaque coyote]

I know they reverted the exoskeleton part but it's still the first

[gilded tinsel]

I thought it was T-51

[arctic talon]

T-45 is the first

[solid horizon]

yes but my point is that they wrongly made it bulky

[crystal forum]

i mean of course 4 added way better power armour mechanics

[opaque coyote]

Nah came after

[arctic talon]

T-51 is the first actual good power armor

[solid horizon]

t45 was supposed to have a different frame system

[arctic talon]

Yeah but its too big imo

[gilded tinsel]

T-51 is criminally underrated

[rocky gale]

I think Chicago is like one of the last known areas where the Enclave has any real presence

[solid horizon]

which was used ingame (fallout 3) as recon armor

[arctic talon]

could just come up with the excuse the T-45 in the show and fallout 4 are retrofitted

to use the T-51 and 60 frame system

bcs the T-45 we see in the show isn't the first deployment

its not T-45D either

[opaque coyote]

Headcanon is that the T-45's were retrofitted later on with exoskeletons

[opaque coyote]

Like in-between inventing the 51

[solid horizon]

literally a t45 armor frame

[crystal forum]

im not a fan of the show depicting a lot of pre war america but whatever

[gilded tinsel]

Power armour in 4 is pretty similar to the show

[arctic talon]

Its slimmer in the show

[gilded tinsel]

T-45 and T-60 look fine

[arctic talon]

compared to 4

[crystal forum]

like grrrr you're not supposed to show pre war stuff

[gilded tinsel]

T-51 helmet is massive

and I'm sorry Enclave fans, the X-01 is butt ugly

[arctic talon]

There's no T-51 in the show aside from the ending diorama with a dead person

how dare you CALL advanced power armor ugly

KILL THEM

[solid horizon]

t45 was also famous for not being really useful or protective on top of having terrible mobility in canon lore

[gilded tinsel]

I meant in F4

Still my favorite armour though

[solid horizon]

I like t45 because it's iconic ? would I wear it ? heck no

[arctic talon]

it now also in canon literally freezes up randomly sometimes before T-45D 💀

lol

[gilded tinsel]

The only good part of X-01 is the helmet

[vagrant fox]

It seems sorta halfway inbetween the old iteration of skinny PA and chunky FO4 PA and T60 seems proper chunky

[crystal forum]

also vault tek being blatantly tied into the nuclear war kinda ruins it. it's supposed to be something a player discovers very slowly in other games but the show just explicitely tells the audience

[vagrant fox]

if my memory works anyway

[arctic talon]

its not

its explictly not blatantly tied

its an idea thats floated

in the meeting

but its pretty explict vault tek is not tied to the nuclear war

[rocky gale]

The show tells us that Vault Tek plan to drop the bombs if needed, while implying that they didn't

[arctic talon]

House also straight up says it this season in pre war stuff

^

[crystal forum]

oh good ok

[vagrant fox]

Ultracite T51 is the only one that deserves to be slandered

[crystal forum]

i dont want it to ever be revealed why the war started

[opaque coyote]

Die.

[crystal forum]

there shouldn't be a reason

[opaque coyote]

[solid horizon]

enclave fans when you tell them their silly bald eagle shaped pile of metal is ugly

[gilded tinsel]

bug face

At least my power armour doesn't look like a super mutants testicle

[rocky gale]

Too bad, the OG creator of Fallout said that China Nuked the US because they found out about the FEV research which was illegal

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think the best way to show it is simple.

Have both America and China fire the nukes at the exact same time

[gilded tinsel]

[arctic talon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/enclave-fallout2

I don't want them to show it ever

also the fallout 3 and 2 bit with the aliens maybe starting the war

[crystal forum]

idc still not cannon

[arctic talon]

was stupid

[opaque coyote]

For no reason

It's not stated

Just a video of both sides pressing the button

At the exact same time

[crisp heath]

where is this from

[solid horizon]

everyone knows the war started because US wanted greenland real bad

[opaque coyote]

As both nukes fly into the air

[solid horizon]

dawn of war, the game that shames you for exitting the game

[crystal forum]

mothership zeta feels like a fever dream

[crisp heath]

i dont remember that screen on it weirdge

[crystal forum]

cant believe it actually exists

[opaque coyote]

Zeta is Bethesda really just fucking around tbh

[arctic talon]

Mothership Zeta is Bethesda hitting the Good shit™

lol

[rocky gale]

Know what they should do. Have a Solar flare disrupt the early warning systems causing both sides to think they've already been nuked, so they both launch retaliatory strikes at the same time for no reason.

[opaque coyote]

Bethesda said that they didn't take the setting seriously

Zeta is an example

[solid horizon]

betty & barney hill on steroids

[crystal forum]

it's like a family guy cutaway that lasts way too long and is not funny at all

[opaque coyote]

Because God damn did they not take that shit seriously

[opaque coyote]

At least the weapons are fun

So eh

[arctic talon]

Fallout 3 was pretty serious

tbh

Compared to 4 lol

Aside from Zeta

[opaque coyote]

Somebody get Emil out of the writers chair please dawg

[crystal forum]

the whole series has become more comedic over time i feel

which is eh

[arctic talon]

I think 2 and 4 are the most comedic

[crystal forum]

it takes itself less seriously

[arctic talon]

with 3 + NV being inbetween 1 and 2/4

1 is the only game that takes itself seriously

[opaque coyote]

More like a hill.

FO1 was dead serious.

FO2 wasn't

Fo3 took itself more seriously

FO4 didn't

[crystal forum]

76 is pretty goofy

[arctic talon]

oh yeah 76 lol

76 is FO4/2 teir

FO2 does not take itself seriously at all

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I kinda count it as a side game

[arctic talon]

aside from the main quest

which is mostly serious

aside from some stuff

[solid horizon]

even the main quest was goofy

[crystal forum]

fo2 does take itself seriously most of the time i feel

[arctic talon]

Like Enclave dialogue

[opaque coyote]

I do miss some things.

Like the talking deathclaws.

[arctic talon]

I disagree

[solid horizon]

like wtf are those talking deathclaws, am I high on jet ?

[arctic talon]

its extremely jokey

[crystal forum]

like you feel actual stakes during 2

your tribe gets murdered

[opaque coyote]

Chris Avellone hating the talking deathclaws

[arctic talon]

Fo2 has so much humor in it

[opaque coyote]

Is proof that he is just no fun

[solid horizon]

tim cain too

[arctic talon]

which is fine

[opaque coyote]

I like them genuinely

[crystal forum]

having humor doesn't make it unserious i feel

[opaque coyote]

I wanna see em again

[young pecan]

FO4 felt like it was trying to take itself seriously

[opaque coyote]

Give me Goris

I want Goris...

[arctic talon]

the type of humor is very much the unserious edgy humor of the time

[crystal forum]

like NV has a lot of jokes but the tone is pretty serious

[solid horizon]

it was very goofy anyways

the whole enclave is goofy parodic shit

[opaque coyote]

True but it fails so miserably

[arctic talon]

I think anyone who thinks FO2 isn't goofy needs to do all the side content in the game

lol

oh also the

[young pecan]

Yeppers

[arctic talon]

"I'm not part of the problem, I am a republican"

lmao

[opaque coyote]

The ghost questline

[opaque coyote]

Literally word for word from a politician I believe

[arctic talon]

yeah

[solid horizon]

fallout's parody of diehard american conservatists illustrated by their own take on the star wars empire

[arctic talon]

that dude entierly quotes

politicians

[crystal forum]

maybe it's just been a while since i played 2 but i remember it not being overly goofy

[arctic talon]

Which implies that the democrats and republicans survived until the fall of the USA

and that the president of the Enclave is a democrat

and the vice president is a republican

[young pecan]

I feel like while they were making the Institute they were like "wait, we're making a faction that you have absolutely no reason not to pick other than bias, let's make them evil for no reason"

[arctic talon]

The Institute literally is not finished

they got rewritten like 4 fucking times

[solid horizon]

man the institute could have been so much better

[arctic talon]

Fallout 4 had a god awful development cycle

[solid horizon]

instead they gave use corporate hospitalcore

[young pecan]

And their hub area makes it feel like there was supposed to be a lot more going on

[arctic talon]

and they kept on rewriting it

[young pecan]

So empty

[opaque coyote]

The Institute and Colonel Autumn is wasted potential tbh

[crystal forum]

bethesda's error with 4 is it thought fallout was known for its gameplay instead of its writing

[solid horizon]

the institute was sold as much more menacing in fallout 3

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it's known for both

[crystal forum]

the gameplay in 4 is an overall improvement over the previous games

[opaque coyote]

At least by 3 and NV

[arctic talon]

genuinely the plot would be improved

by tying the Railroad and minutemen together

[opaque coyote]

Same

[arctic talon]

as one cohesive organization

lol

[opaque coyote]

I agree

[young pecan]

It only makes sense

[arctic talon]

because you already need to go to the fucking Railroad if you're doing the minutemen questline

[crystal forum]

i think 4 was just too ambitious and didn't have good enough focus during development. like it has better side content than main content

[solid horizon]

railroad being a major faction is kinda silly ngl

[young pecan]

The Minutemen's colonial shtick with the Railroad's liberation shtick makes them feel cohesive

[arctic talon]

4 suffers from a hellish development cycle

and it really shows

All the power armor specific weapons

[young pecan]

Both stand for freedom or sumn Idk

[arctic talon]

being usable outside of it is goofy

[crystal forum]

like why did they waste time making the settlement system

what a waste of time

[arctic talon]

oh also

make minutemen a major faction
don't give them proper equipment scaling or the AI to use their main gun properly

??????

what did bethesda mean by this

[solid horizon]

minutemen is like

[arctic talon]

Minutemen are fine

[solid horizon]

hunt showdown soul survivor mode

[arctic talon]

they're perfectly servicable and I actually like them from a on paper standpoint

[crystal forum]

minutemen feels like a last minute addition to the game to make settlements actually have purpose

[arctic talon]

they were the second faction made for the game

but they again

[young pecan]

Minutemen feel decent actually

[arctic talon]

got rewritten like

thrice

[solid horizon]

blowing up the BoS zepplin with cannons was funny I admit

[arctic talon]

so we ended up getting an amalgam

[young pecan]

But like every faction, they are undercooked

[arctic talon]

the only main faction

that didn't undergo major rewrites in 4

was the BoS

[young pecan]

Except for muh BoS yay I luv BoS woooo

[arctic talon]

because they were the last faction added

lol

[young pecan]

shlorping noises

[crystal forum]

i think the game would have really been improved if one of the DLC's did a fallout 3 and continued the main quest

[young pecan]

I hate chudderhood of steel

[arctic talon]

nah my stupid chud Knights are hilarious

[crystal forum]

like ngl i think the mechanist could have been entirely scrapped

what a boring dlc

[arctic talon]

I like the rust devils

[young pecan]

Whatever, go my racist knights

[arctic talon]

fun idea for a raider gang

[storm jungle]

guys

[arctic talon]

yes

[storm jungle]

would the Kings survive 40k

[arctic talon]

Yes

[young pecan]

FNV Kings?

[solid horizon]

would elvis ?

[crystal forum]

the kings creating a new warp god called the king

[arctic talon]

yes

[solid horizon]

I mean orks exist alright

[arctic talon]

if I had a nickle for every gang in a sci fi setting that copied elvis

I'd have 2 nickles

which isn't a lot but its weird its happened twice

[solid horizon]

dress your orks in greasers and pompadour haircuts and job's done

[crystal forum]

i really wonder about fallout 5

[storm jungle]

He'd die in the first drug den he finds tbh

[arctic talon]

I think bethesda learned from fallout 4's basegame + story

[solid horizon]

dreadnought elvis

[arctic talon]

looking at far harbor

[crystal forum]

i dont think bethesda ever learns

tbh

[arctic talon]

aside from the DIMA minecraft shit

DIMA minecraft

is awful

[young pecan]

Just give it to Obsidian again and let them cook but for longer

[crystal forum]

obsidian isn't what it was when NV was made

[solid horizon]

woah mama this corpsestarch and rations sandwich is baller

[storm jungle]

Hes ALL fucked up

[arctic talon]

elvis is a true champion of slaanesh

[young pecan]

Pass me sommathat Iho, sugar

[storm jungle]

also worst part of growing up was finding Elvis is a fucking hack

[solid horizon]

elvis would be No 1 slaneesh adept

[crystal forum]

which part

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[crystal forum]

the part where he just stole blues or

[solid horizon]

the part where he likes em young I s'pose

[crystal forum]

people dont often know that rock comes from blues

rock used to be called hard blues or smth

[solid horizon]

rock come from the ground you idiot

[crystal forum]

oh

[crystal forum]

what even is rock

[solid horizon]

elvis started as a country singer

[crystal forum]

nobody can answer this question

[solid horizon]

his producer made him cover popular r&b songs

[crystal forum]

country just means pop except southern these days

truck truck whiskey beer boobs guns

[solid horizon]

if you're american maybe

[crystal forum]

wdym if you're american

it's an american genre

[solid horizon]

country doesn't touch us europeans

[vagrant fox]

I wish

[crystal forum]

no shit

[solid horizon]

wait I read the sentence in the wrong order

silly me

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

[storm jungle]

SERIOUSLY

oh my god what is it with famous people being pedos

[young pecan]

Wdym there are plenty of good country artists, such as

and

there's also

[solid horizon]

fame therefore power gives them ability to do anything with barely any consequences I s'pose

[arctic talon]

14 year old when he was 24

[vagrant fox]

You gotta be a lil' fucked up to hustle like that

[solid horizon]

pretty much every commercial music nowadays is overproduced and hyperprocessed simple sounds

[arctic talon]

NCR on set leak, part 3.

[solid horizon]

me when the billionth pop song has ear-shattering loud bass and loud claps

[crystal forum]

fr i just listen to my own shit. i haven't heard a single popular modern song in the last 5 years

[solid horizon]

and guitar that feels like undercooked chicken breast

[crystal forum]

i straight up cant name a single current pop singer

[solid horizon]

me neither

[arctic talon]

I don’t listen to that much pop music. It’s mostly just metal and EDM shit for me lol

[crystal forum]

people who say modern music is bad just think there's like 10 people in the world making music or smth

[solid horizon]

as a musician is it easier for me to feel represented in older music because they tend to feature more of my instrument or at least the way I play it

[crystal forum]

just find music you enjoy

[young pecan]

What instrument you play

[solid horizon]

keyboards

but like

organ

electric

organ

[young pecan]

Oooo sweet

I used to play the tuba

7 years 👴

[solid horizon]

nowadays I'm more oriented on electric pianos with effect modulation

and it sounds like darktide ost farts

[crystal forum]

synth hell yeah

the best instrument invented

[young pecan]

I think that's more a compliment than anything

[solid horizon]

I have this 70s early analog electric piano (not to be mistaken with electric pianos like wurlis and fender rhodes) I got for 50 bucks new

it's heavy as shit so I dont move it much

long story short it's more or less muffled square waves

[crystal forum]

why do you call it an eletric piano like you're wendy carlos or smth

[solid horizon]

I run it through a ring modulator

[crystal forum]

it's just a synth

[solid horizon]

because it's uhh

difficult to categorise

[crystal forum]

if it's not an actual mechanical piano then it's a synth imo

[solid horizon]

analog instruments often refer to keyboards that use transistors for sound production

technically a synth but it's not modular at all

[crystal forum]

you could modulate the output

[solid horizon]

you could theoretically call a hammond organ or a vox continental a synth for example

but they're organs

it's like calling a ukulele a bass because it has four strings

instrument terminology is uhh

weird and specific

as I like to call it, said piano is poor man's wurli

I have a clip of it

not modulated tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1142909815555887252/1401936524332765204/VID_20250804_163421.mp4?ex=697e1322&is=697cc1a2&hm=471ef6492d7afa93c2c1cc42442c2f34b90388594a6c6d701279a93958c55524&

[crystal forum]

that has a good sound

sounds more like a piano than i expected

[crisp heath]

I honest to God think the richer they get the more they start thinking they are untouchable and start slowly get pulled into fucked up life

[solid horizon]

it has brighter presets that sound uhh like

harpsichord but with C64 sound tech

[young pecan]

"thinking"

[crystal forum]

i wanna get into hardcore modulation but i need to learn how to play a synth first

and im lazy

[storm jungle]

Thats basically the case yeah

[young pecan]

How many years did Epstein go unphased again

They KNOW they are untouchable when they get in a lil like-minded cabal

[young pecan]

I would snap a finger and plant a boot to this

[solid horizon]

I did this for a MC mod some months ago, you can hear 2 different presets, piano in the rhythm section and bright/harpsichord for the melody

[crystal forum]

now this i can get behind

[young pecan]

I can't play it

[solid horizon]

basically Offworld Auspex but it's 1969 and you took a lot of lsd

[crystal forum]

that's the sound i crave

[crisp heath]

SOME of them kinda get fucked over with the law with something eventually

[young pecan]

You compose too or just played it?

[solid horizon]

I wrote it and played each instrument track, except the drums which are a midi track

because I dont have a drum kit or the skills to play one

[crystal forum]

idk if you'd be able to tell me how to get a sound like this soviet era synth inspired thingy https://youtu.be/Vzp9sAfIMTo?si=jeluY-Xyj_ibsTsr

[solid horizon]

originally, it was something I would play for my cat

but i decided to recorded it because it sounded psychedelic and alien enough

[solid horizon]

probably ARP synthesizers

but idk

[crystal forum]

i love how distinct synth sounds can be

so many flavors

[young pecan]

That's sick, I used to consider composing before deciding that I don't know enough how to tie things like that together

[solid horizon]

it's experience really

I have another recording where I used said keyboard but this time modulated with a ring modulator (aka the thing used for dalek voices) but it's much less serious

right ear keyboard

[vagrant fox]

How queer to see the guy who designed the FO4 deathclaw saying not to get freaky with them

[solid horizon]

oh yeah jonah lobe

I once randomly stumbled on his instagram page

[vagrant fox]

Sounds funky, +2

[solid horizon]

I told him I worked and did the models of a mod that would recreate fallout 1-3 in minecraft

he checked it and approved it

[vagrant fox]

I just found his youtube channel

[solid horizon]

he then proceeded to invite to some sort of preview comitee or something

but I was way too intimidated and impressed and accidentally ghosted him

[young pecan]

That's what I was starting to think

I really only have the bass/supportive perspective

[solid horizon]

hey that's already essential

[young pecan]

I think if I ever got more into it it'd just be recreationally

[solid horizon]

like drugs

[young pecan]

Hub music to a groovy game type beat

Reminds me of that one rhythm beat-em-up

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh

Hi-Fi Rush

[solid horizon]

I remembered I have another example of the keyboard but it's uh

politically incorrect ?

to the uneducated ear 🍷

[celest cedar]

wyll said ⁨Fuck ICE⁩

[daring creek]

sick shit

[storm jungle]

Fucking peak

also wait i got one to go with it

[celest cedar]

the irony that Cassian got merked for something as simple as....jaywalking (?) while previously he had robbed an entire cash vault

[daring creek]

Why the hell did they even like

even go up to her in the first place

[storm jungle]

To abuse their authority essentially

[daring creek]

Ok, ma'am exit your vehicle, now. yanks on the door handle, attempting to open the door

Like

jesus christ, actual government thugs

[storm jungle]

Literally yeah

the fact that they straight up lie about what even happened is crazy to me

[daring creek]

Like

[celest cedar]

yea

[storm jungle]

really no one cares huh

[daring creek]

She didn't even get the opportunity to even process what was going on

[celest cedar]

Pretti got his gun removed when he wasnt even brandishing it and then promptly executed for legally protesting...

[daring creek]

It happened all in like 5 seconds and for some fucking reason that guy pulled a gun

literally just cops

How can you still say "back the blue" at this point?

after seeing the video for yourself

[storm jungle]

Republicans are brainwashed

they'll say anything to cope with it

[daring creek]

It was just flatout point blank murder

It's not "don't resist" its "avoid them, at all costs. take the long way"

[storm jungle]

and the same one happens days later

governments have been overthrown for less lol

[daring creek]

If anything, I think this teaches people that if they want to protest, they'll have to be willing to give their life.

[young pecan]

We are at the point where "Do not believe your lying eyes" is being tested at full throttle

And we're passing with flying colors

[outer wave]

At the very least, some people seem to be waking up and willing (apparently) to defend their neighborhoods. How well its went I dunno

Still, another No Kings march in March is not gonna help

[daring creek]

I really want to say something

but part of me knows I shouldn't.

[outer wave]

You can DM it if you want

[jade holly]

Always trust your gut I say

[outer wave]

I just hope Canada can stay more staunch about this stuff

[storm jungle]

||He gets suicide bombed by an escapee immediately after saying this||

🥀

[daring creek]

erm

woaw..

[plush mason]

if i have learned anything about republicans its that there is no limit to the amount of mental gymnastics they can and will do to make themselves the victims and the good guys

[storm jungle]

literal Imperium citizen tier delusion

[plush mason]

yup

[storm jungle]

Biden has been out of office for like 2 years now

and they STILL fucking blame him for EVERYTHING

[outer wave]

People have legit been predicting that an annexation of Canada will lead to some of the worst insurgency fighting the US will have to deal with, which is funny, but I dunno how complicit we'll actually be if it actually happened

[storm jungle]

Honestly i doubt an invasion will happen because actual US officials would likely rebel

like not all of them but some

troops largely do what they are told so i doubt theyd give a fuck massacring canadians tbh

[outer wave]

We DID hear that military officials were REALLY against the Greenland invasion

Which probably prompted Trump to try and take it via buyout

[storm jungle]

Yeah Donny tried to make them run simulations or something iirc

and they were like "Are you fucking crazy"

[outer wave]

Yeaaaaah

[outer wave]

I cant imagine it'd be that popular even amongst the grunts

[jade holly]

This is why I stay out of politics, too much stupidity in all of it

[outer wave]

At least for the ones that fought with us in wars

[storm jungle]

Politics are everywhere you go so you cant escape forever

[storm jungle]

Yeah like theres ar eason the US has always invaded countries nobody cares about

[jade holly]

I’m aware but if I let myself get sucked in I stress out to the point my life begins falling apart

[storm jungle]

because when they bomb a south american nation no one will care or do anything

[storm jungle]

[daring creek]

unfortnately

[jade holly]

So I stay a healthy distance away from it whenever I can

[daring creek]

I dislike exposure to politics, well. at least the sort that stress me the hell out

[jade holly]

Yeah I had a massive mental breakdown during a final exam once in college because of politics

Was

Not

Pretty

[daring creek]

mainly from my father

yipee, daddy issues.

i need to put my mind on something else lmao

[outer wave]

Politics are hardly a happy issue overall

[storm jungle]

When was this lol

[celest cedar]

thats what theyve been doing ever since the killings yep

[jade holly]

Around early January of 2025. Got terrified of the idea that if I ever wanted to visit a nation that isn’t in the US I’d get harassed or antagonized for being American. Yeah in hindsight it’s stupid but I was not thinking rationally then

[lament shoal]

With everything that's been going on, I can never keep myself from imagining the things my parents would likely say to justify these things if they ever came up in conversation. It saddens me, because they really are good people, but they're just so brainwashed

[storm jungle]

You really wouldnt man lol

the most xenophobia towards americans in most places is:

[jade holly]

Like I said in hindsight it’s stupid

[storm jungle]

"Oh you are american you must be a dummy"

[jade holly]

But I overthink way too easily

[outer wave]

Yeah what Dilara said

[jade holly]

and I let thought ruminate

[storm jungle]

No one is gonna kill you for it lol

[outer wave]

You could still find good connections and friends in other countries in spite of it

[storm jungle]

^

[outer wave]

I think someone on this server talked about something like that

[storm jungle]

if it makes you feel better they usually hate any foreigner

[jade holly]

I hear Germans don’t even say anything, they just stare judgingly lmao

[outer wave]

They got heckled in a friendly way for being American or something like that

[daring creek]

I honestly don't blame the stereotype

We are fat americans

[outer wave]

I REALLY understand the stereotype now

No offense to anyone here

[jade holly]

Fun fact: I lost like 25 pounds since I graduated from college and got off my campus

[daring creek]

Like. Legit.

[jade holly]

Fucking somehow

[daring creek]

America is full of dumbasses.

[celest cedar]

how likely though a white american vs non white american face judging looks in other countries 🤔

[jade holly]

I barely changed what I do in a day

[daring creek]

ran by dumbasses

[queen laurel]

That chocolate milk comment does not help your society I am going to be honest

[daring creek]

Wait what

When was this

[storm jungle]

Man i should try being depressed more

[daring creek]

was it the

[jade holly]

You never heard about this?

[daring creek]

poop conversation

[jade holly]

Chocolate milk comes from brown cows

[daring creek]

LOL

IT WAS

HAH

[queen laurel]

All the way back to 2017 if I remember

[young pecan]

Not enough 2A usage for me to feel happy about it

[queen laurel]

Good chunk of Americans believe that chocolate milk comes from brown cows

[young pecan]

It should not be controversial for me to say that but here we are

[daring creek]

?

No fucking way

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's real like that actually happened

[daring creek]

I thought that was just a meme

[jade holly]

I’ve been using a little website where I have to click on countries based on the name and map given to improve my geography ngl

[young pecan]

It is

[jade holly]

Eastern Europe fucking sucks

[young pecan]

Americans are stupid but we're not that stupid

On average...

[daring creek]

Fucking

god

[outer wave]

The future gen isnt gonna be particularly smart

[daring creek]

I want chocolate milk now

:/

[jade holly]

It is the best milk after all

[celest cedar]

me watching that video of asking americans geography

and thinking Africa is a whole ass country..

[outer wave]

Id like some after this workout which Im hardly doing

[daring creek]

Unless we strip them of phones yeah.

[jade holly]

Ngl, kinda wanna visit Tunisia or Morocco

[daring creek]

A lot of this is by parents not parenting.

[outer wave]

Which isnt the best way of doing things, judging from how Aussie kids are taking it

They went straight cold turkey with no social media

Parents need to do better

[daring creek]

the next one at the very last.

Kids have gone through legit phone withdrawal lmao

[outer wave]

We cant let government teach our kids

[jade holly]

I blame how parents raise kids these days, or the lack thereof

[young pecan]

The ones raised by avoidant parents and iPads, no

[jade holly]

I hear kids these days are absolutely horrible to teachers now

And they’re really stupid

[lament shoal]

Parents just need to step up and do their fucking jobs, thats all

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/busy-scrolling-addiction-gif-1518657498429821789

[outer wave]

Ive been hearing things from teachers about how uninterested kids are in terms of socializing or doing anything

[celest cedar]

this is me

[outer wave]

Its scary man

Like Im not a paragon or anything

But shit Im way better than that

[young pecan]

I have a conspiracy theory that I made up five seconds ago where it is actually integral to the US government's plan for YouTube kids to be so fucked and brain rotting

[jade holly]

Then the lack of parents doing their jobs means companies try to do it for them and then we all suffer for it

Stupid fucking AI age verification bullshit

[young pecan]

This works in tandem with erasing planned parenthood and lowering purchasing power so parents are more likely to do that to their kids

[outer wave]

Make it a little less conspiratorial for you: its likely just so happens to be the way companies wanna keep you online and engaged with their products

[young pecan]

Also true

[lament shoal]

We should set fire to AI data centers

[jade holly]

More like make them spend more than they make

[lament shoal]

Fuck you for making gaming even more unaffordable

[lament shoal]

That's already happening lol

[queen laurel]

Same here I'm not good at outside socialization but I have a few circles I willingly talk in here and there

[jade holly]

Speak with your wallet as they say

Microsoft is hitting the panic button saying they need to use AI for something people want to use it for

Like Hell that’ll happen

Also apparently it’s AI’s fault

[lament shoal]

The company that runs chat gpt predicts they'll go bankrupt by 2027 if they don't start making enough money or receive funding soon

[jade holly]

THAT GAMEPASS ULTIMATE IS NOW THIRTY FUCKING DOLLARS A MONTH

AND FIRST PARTY GAMES ARE $80

[celest cedar]

good

[outer wave]

Same, Im also glad Im in school again just because Ive met so many good people and it allows me to practice socializing more

[jade holly]

Because guess how much Microsoft spent investing in AI

Apparently

300 FUCKING BILLION

[lament shoal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/8ZfPMXrQpF8?si=ZVjoC7jZ_Gi2J8b4 it gets worse

[winter pine]

mashallah we're in the scenario were OpenAI dies and takes Microsoft with them

[jade holly]

“You will own nothing and you will be happy” ahh plan

[jade holly]

Apparently Microsoft is screwing up Windows 11 even more too

[winter pine]

https://tenor.com/view/new-world-order-klaus-schwab-world-economic-forum-parody-r-u-ready-4-ze-new-world-order-gif-10007432617932751756

[outer wave]

Learn linux

[jade holly]

I’m Xbox

[outer wave]

Oof

Buy a PC off FB marketplace

[arctic talon]

Linux isn’t that bad, aside from the parts where it is

[outer wave]

I havent tried it yet but Im willing to give it a shot

Only thing Im worried about is backing my data up, being overwhelmed by its applications, and not playing certain games anymore

[jade holly]

Bruh this is sick

Highguard added a 5v5 mode

[lament shoal]

Is that really a reliable site to buy one from? I feel like a pc from there would be full of roaches or something lmao

[outer wave]

Theres multiple distros, versions that derived from Linux, so hard to say

Reddit might be your best bet on that

Just to ensure you got the right site and shit

[winter pine]

OpenAI's only real path is hoping the US government bails them up but them failing and wrecking the economy means that's probably not happening

[outer wave]

Im worried the government will ultimately use AI to push false agendas

Like thats happening already but most are still suspicious about what comes out from them and other social media platforms

But if it gets just good enough? World's the oyster and shit

I hope it popping means they'll pivot away from it and it loses traction

But I dunno how realistic that is

[winter pine]

Unfortunately the real problem with AI slop is that there's a huge demand for made up, delusion validating bullshit

[outer wave]

Yeah

Though I imagine its mostly pushed by actors and bots

And the occasional useful idiot

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-exploding-so-silly-gif-15918586977293620068

[daring creek]

the bar is somewhere in hell.
it's already being used as propaganda

by the

[surreal nest]

I HATE LINUX USERS

[daring creek]

US Government.

[arctic talon]

Just run Linux and Windows dual boot

[surreal nest]

Learn linux learn how to dribble and meet me on the court son

[outer wave]

IM NOT A LINUX USER, IM JUST THINKING ON IT

[arctic talon]

Best way you can use Linux

lol

I don’t like Linux tho

I just know how to use it bcs it’s mandatory for people in my industry

[surreal nest]

bro is in the lame loser industry

https://tenor.com/view/dunk-gif-21755298

[arctic talon]

Yes that is what the tech industry is

[surreal nest]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-goty-the-game-awards-the-game-awards-2025-diablo-gif-1352433554911783208

[outer wave]

I mean more in the sense that they can make Obama say he rigged the 2008 elections

That low of a bar

[surreal nest]

uhhhh yeah, i uh did do that. rigged it all. obama wins

[outer wave]

Let me be clear: I, uh, rigged the 2008 elections in my favor

[surreal nest]

i know he wasnt a good person but i miss how he talked

[outer wave]

Let me be queer: Trump is hot and sexy but I dont like him

[surreal nest]

cant stand how the current dementia ridden fuck talks

he talks like he is offering riddles with conflicted contradicting answers

[outer wave]

You are fake news! I hate ABC news, worst news. You talk too much! Anyway, my wife, she has uh... nice pussy... kinda like Greenland, kinda like Greenland, yeah... we dont have the papers for Greenland, so I own it... heh, yeah...

[arctic talon]

He’s a better person then our current president and the president before Obama

[opaque coyote]

Hell nah bruh he looks like a fucking ghoul

[arctic talon]

Or was bush before Obama

I forgot

[surreal nest]

bush was before obama

[outer wave]

Bush before

[arctic talon]

Actually bush was awful as well

[outer wave]

He looks so ragged

[arctic talon]

Bush and Clinton bar is burning in hell

[outer wave]

Like 10 years have not been well to him

[arctic talon]

I mean

Yeah

No shit

He’s old

[surreal nest]

im telling you he died

its weekend at bernies

[outer wave]

I know but you can still age gracefully

He didnt

[arctic talon]

There gets to a certain point where you can’t

[surreal nest]

im gonna be a model forever

[arctic talon]

I could strangle my grandma to death for beating me when I was a kid no problem now

5 years ago she probably could have still beat my ass with a switch no problem though

But age makes you frail

It’s sad to see

Even if she’s a horrid woman

[outer wave]

I wonder how Trump's family feel about his dementia

[arctic talon]

It’s not that bad(yet) if it is dementia

[outer wave]

People think its Alzheimers IIRC

[arctic talon]

But there’s def cognitive decline

Can we have a president who doesn’t shit dust next

[outer wave]

Next up is JD Vance so kinda

[surreal nest]

venom snake for president

https://tenor.com/view/mgsv-mgs5-mgs-metal-gear-solid-metal-gear-solid-5-gif-7889838534933531334

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/jd-vance-freaky-gif-12383307270061891675

He looks like he shits dust

[arctic talon]

The man with less spine then a jellyfish

[surreal nest]

and brains

[opaque coyote]

This goes for like

A majority of the USA's politicians atp

[surreal nest]

MAMDAMI FOR PRESIDENT

[arctic talon]

Nah he’s not an idiot unfortunately

He knows how to play the politics game

It’s why he’s got less spine then jellyfish

[opaque coyote]

Thank god he's unattractive enough that even the most alt right MFS prefer to model themselves after Gavin Newsom

[surreal nest]

i feel like if put a rubix cube in front of him he would chew on it

[outer wave]

I sure hope so, because that means he'll get pushed over by hopefully the sane people

Its wild that Erika Kirk is fucking him

[opaque coyote]

"But I see some similarities of my husband... in JD."

https://tenor.com/view/vance-jd-vance-jd-vance-meme-shrek-meme-lollipop-gif-17549988863987064614

[outer wave]

Erika after giggling about how much money she made off her husband's corpse

[heady rivet]

Epstein files confirming that he watched FNAF porn so every satire site needs to shut down and give up its OVER

[opaque coyote]

...har har har har har

I don't even know how to react to that genuinely

[outer wave]

The fact that the Epstein files got leaked and there's so much worse stuff than what we knew initially is harrowing

[opaque coyote]

Consider that right before this he asked for the arrest of Obama. I think he was trying to distract people

[outer wave]

He probably was

Not to mention the emergency with Cuba being a threat and Alberta wanting sovereignty

[opaque coyote]

"State of the Union: The president said his predecessor had attempted a coup during the 2016 presidential election."

When Obama was president, during 2016, he instigated a coup...against himself, I guess.

[outer wave]

Considering how unredacted it all was, are we actually sure it was distraction or him being a doofus dumb dumb again?

[opaque coyote]

Maybe both

[outer wave]

Possibly

[opaque coyote]

Also Jeffery Epstein was banned from Xbox live

Very useful knowledge

Seriously though how the fuck did he even get banned from there? Have you heard the shit spewed in MW2 lobbies?

Did he try to "recruit" more children while playing CoD or something??

Why am I even talking about this?

[outer wave]

I imagine he was trying to lure kids yeah

And they, being around parents or others hearing this going on, probably threw on reports against him

[opaque coyote]

Also Ghislane Maxwell was apparently one of reddit's top mods

Satire truly is dead

[outer wave]

Been seeing also that the owner of 4Chan was also involved with Epstein

[opaque coyote]

She also apparently was one of the first to get 1 million karma

[outer wave]

How much of our social media has been like this since the get go? Jesus fuck

[winter pine]

Moot or the Japanese guy who bought it from him in 2015ish?

[outer wave]

M00t

According to some tweets anyway

[winter pine]

As far as I know moot basically feel off the face of the earth after he left google

[opaque coyote]

How the fuck is this gonna be explained in the history books

[winter pine]

Things got too boring and stable so people voted to kill it for no good reason

[outer wave]

The empire suicide switch turned on

[winter pine]

Horus and Guilliman viewing the United States killing the good thing it had going in M31 and screaming

[jade holly]

I’m reinstalling Street Fighter VI

Alex looks interesting

[arctic talon]

Funny they made him a full on heel wrestler

[jade holly]

look at this man

[arctic talon]

He was always an asshole

But they’re really leaning into him being one now

Even if it’s for the crowd

[jade holly]

No no he was a New Yorker

Smh

[arctic talon]

LOL

[jade holly]

Also they got Kenny Omega to mocap for him and even gave Alex some of his moves

Including his One Winged Angel move

I need to get GamePass soon so I can play him online

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/waBC1jhR1F4?si=SFabuEjU4bitHNKq

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/silver-deadlock-deadlock-lesbian-werewolf-werewolf-lesbian-gif-4488584269912462752

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/venator-priest-priest-deadlock-venator-deadlock-vote-for-venator-gif-3384277709574118908

[rose thorn]

Isn’t venator literally in friends to humanity?

[arctic talon]

Unclear, the original iteration yes

the current one seems to be working for the church and unrelated

TLDR who the fuck knows at this point

anyways its fine if he's a literal racist anyways

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

we have a serial killer who eats people
and two vigilante's who've murdered so many people they could probably fill a mass grave

I think a racist asshole who murders people is fine

Like I'm not even kidding tbh, a not insignificant chunk of the deadlock cast are horrid people

Geist and Drifter are both serial killers
Infernus was a murderer and involved in the mob
Seven has murdered people and is planning to reach "apotheosis"
Haze' and Calico's jobs are both murdering people
Yamato murders people and is the leader of a Yakuza clan
Kelvin did something in the past that was incredibly horrific according to Seven
Viper is a career criminal who murders people for fun
Bebop kills people for money
McGinnis is part of Magic Lockheed Martin and doesn't care how many people her creations kill
Shiv was a murderer

[rose thorn]

I can excuse murder but racism is where I draw the line!

[arctic talon]

LOL

also Grey talon is bigoted slightly

towards Golems

lol

Grey talon also murders a bunch of people

but he's murdering the friends of humanity so its morally justifable bcs they literally lynch people

same with Vindicta

funny how both the sniper characters are friends

and hate the racists

[hollow lantern]

And Lash? Jacob Lash is an asshole.

[arctic talon]

Lash is truly the most evil person

its true

I saw him call a baby stupid

[hollow lantern]

I like his charity lmfao

"Jacob Lash's charity for kids who kind of suck" or something

[arctic talon]

“It’s important to give back. That’s why I’m taking 3% of my winnings and donating them to Lash Back. My charity dedicated to children who, uh, kinda suck.”

voiceline is stuck in my head lol

he says it whenver he gets a bunch of souls

[hollow lantern]

Lmfao

[jade holly]

And then we have Paige

Who likes books

Ergo she is worse than all of them combined

[hollow lantern]

Gun Paige was pretty fucking deplorable for awhile there

[arctic talon]

yeah

[celest cedar]

Lash being creeped out by Vyper is morbidly funny 💀

like tf kinda letters she sends him

[jade holly]

She matches his freak and even goes beyond

[arctic talon]

the one time Lash breaks character

is because Vyper is too much of a freak

and stalks him

[jade holly]

Vyper has the worst line I’ve ever heard in game

[arctic talon]

"you smell even better when you're awake"

[jade holly]

YOU BEAT ME TO IT

[arctic talon]

Lash is absolutely an asshole

But he’s also playing up his assholishness even more

[celest cedar]

is cool that valve didnt just go for making the vile characters just being edgelords

[jade holly]

He helps out orphans

So he can’t be all that awful

[arctic talon]

Yeah the vile awful people actually have depth

Tbh

Seven isn’t some crazy mad scientist, he’s polite, cordial and is indifferent to murder

[celest cedar]

like theres certain relatability and sympathies you can have with them while still reminded that they're killers and bad people

[arctic talon]

Which makes him creepier

He doesn’t like to kill people

[jade holly]

Friendly reminder Dynamo was willing to hire Mo n Krill to steal a book, the only reason they didn’t steal it is cause he has a teacher’s salary

[hollow lantern]

I do so hate that deadlock has all these fascinating characters with a great artstyle and it's wasted on being a fucking moba

[arctic talon]

MOBA fun smh

[jade holly]

[celest cedar]

Grey Talon telling Holliday to just embrace hunting down Troubadour for revenge was peak defiance of the whole ⁨revenge is meaningless⁩

[arctic talon]

Geist is also like

Interesting tbh

[jade holly]

Not to mention her thing with Abrams

[arctic talon]

Grey talon is built entirely around how revenge isn’t for the dead, it’s for whoever survives.

It’s corrosive and awful

But it makes him feel good

[jade holly]

So he’s a sad old man who justifies murder in that it makes him feel good

[arctic talon]

Vindicata is literally a revenant

So I’m not sure if she can do anything but murder the people who killed her lol

[jade holly]

I also like how literally everyone calls out Billy

no one likes him

[arctic talon]

Billy is a political science major/j

[hollow lantern]

Billy is a poser

With obscene levels of scout energy

[jade holly]

Bro read half of Animal Farm and made it his whole personality

[arctic talon]

He’s also shockingly smart

[jade holly]

He’s a fucking NERD

[arctic talon]

He’s a poser yeah but there’s something in that brain

Yep LOL

[hollow lantern]

He strikes me as like

Gifted kid burnout tbh

[celest cedar]

Vindicta calling him out was really funny

[arctic talon]

He knows Shakespeare and other weird random philosophical shit