#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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also i was looking at the timestamp and YEEEEAH BABY one of the images shows SnipeWip

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good to see hes gonna mention that fandom wankery shit

plush mason
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i spent part of a SM2 mission explaining to my friend that the lamenters are a blood angel successor and not imperial fists lmao

storm jungle
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god

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this fandom is irrecoverable

near wasp
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I one time joined a seige on sm2 with a lamentor

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I knew I wasn't making it out

plush mason
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tbf he isnt much of a warhammer fan, SM2 and DT are the only warhammer content he plays

plush mason
storm jungle
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so him not being a fan doesnt mean much

plush mason
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fair

arctic talon
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Relevant lol

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Prolly my favorite lamenter art

near wasp
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Just not his century

plush mason
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has any lamenter had a good time?

heady rivet
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Just not his life

arctic talon
near wasp
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Like fighting with huron

plush mason
arctic talon
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No

vagrant fox
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We're gonna liberate slaves on an ork planet!
Oh wait, we didn't bother to bring enough transport for them so lets just kill them all

storm jungle
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^

arctic talon
plush mason
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....

storm jungle
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Also then deny the award Calgar is gonna give us thus pissing off the gathered Ultramarine Successors and shaming us even more

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(instead of just fucking accepting it and getting it over with)

vagrant fox
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It's a whole series of ???

fervent geode
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The Lamenters are disgusting traitors to the Imperium and their own geneline who rebelled at Badab and betrayed at Baal.

storm jungle
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Good.

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you say that like its a bad thing

vagrant fox
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Didn't even show up to Baal because they're cowards smh

heady rivet
fervent geode
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Oh no id like them if they joined the corsairs

arctic talon
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LOL

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Holy based

plush mason
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yeah no the memes are wrong, the lamenters arent cursed with bad luck, they are cursed with omega level stupidity

arctic talon
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I wish one of the new red Corsair characters was a lamenter

fervent geode
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But they are too much of spineless cowards to do so

arctic talon
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Which is getting stuck in a warpstorm while in the warp

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And being trapped for 20 years

fervent geode
vagrant fox
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I swear I've seen a Red Corsairs Lamenter but in hindsight it might've been some fanwork

arctic talon
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Nah they exist

fervent geode
heady rivet
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Call those Lamenters 007
0 interesting plots
0 interesting characters
7 hours to paint one pauldron

arctic talon
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The lamenters at the palace of thorns

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Escaped with Huron

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So they became corsairs

languid meadow
fervent geode
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And there are some cool lamenter corsair kitbashes floating around

fervent geode
storm jungle
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and by the end of the 40m video hes like

plush mason
storm jungle
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"Well yeah thats kinda it really? They dont really have much aside from fandom memes/adoration"

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which really sums it up imo

languid meadow
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checker and hazard stripes

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evil painters

fervent geode
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That got them a pity farm that lasted a decade

storm jungle
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Naw Lammies were well adored even before that, but TTS deffo boosted it even more even if it was a short video

fervent geode
rocky gale
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Everytime I open Reddit i'm reminded how disconnected most of those people actually are from the hobby

languid meadow
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Lamenters vs the damage TTS did to ultramarines

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I love TTS but god uh

heady rivet
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My friend once did a really impressive freehand of the star of David and I thought it was a template he used at first alwayrember

languid meadow
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UM still have barely recovered from it lmao

vagrant fox
fervent geode
languid meadow
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which sucks because i really like knights of ultramar

fervent geode
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He's cool now too

rocky gale
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Like just saw people complaining about Cataphractii terminators not being in plastic and the comments are full of "Surely it's only a matter of time before GW make them plastic"

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They did, they released 3 weeks ago

opaque coyote
fervent geode
heady rivet
fervent geode
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Like complaining about resin on a plastic mini

languid meadow
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I do like how they're treating WoD tho

plush mason
languid meadow
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they have some real passion for that universe

fervent geode
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WoD is great too

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HtP is better than TTS tbh

languid meadow
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experience plus laying out a story before hand helps a lot

vagrant fox
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I was already jaded by 40k memery when I saw TTS come out so I hated that stuff from the get go but their WoD stuff is superb

languid meadow
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TTS didn't have a planned out story iirc

storm jungle
opaque coyote
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I said looks.

I didn't say Lorgar is cool

plush mason
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i cant wait for the acceptable losses episode about werewolf the apocalypse

fervent geode
storm jungle
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also yeah TTS crew was winging it

languid meadow
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one of the reasons they stopped doing it was because they wrote themselves into a corner

storm jungle
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Hunte rhas like an ENTIRE pre-established plot

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like its still crazy to me EP1 namedrops the Arcanum

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along with the family being kicked out of it

fervent geode
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No one would hound Alfa and gang from making HtP either

storm jungle
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i never realised that at first lol

languid meadow
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WoD fans are just happy for anything really ( thank god )

opaque coyote
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I still hope it returns one day but I don't mind it not returning

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If that makes any sense

storm jungle
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tbh

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dumbasses already use Alfa's departure as ammo for GW at times

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even though he literally asked them to not crusade

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lmao

fervent geode
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Happens all the time

plush mason
vagrant fox
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Didn't they get some support from Paradox for HtP?

fervent geode
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He had 40k fans as fans

plush mason
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its an amazing universe

storm jungle
languid meadow
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everything BUT VTM needs love

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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My favorite part is how people brigaded for a week then just moved on

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lmao

vagrant fox
fervent geode
storm jungle
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Waiter, waiter, more garou content please

languid meadow
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WTA has like

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1 game that isn't text based

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and it's mid

rocky gale
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Alfa "We aren't stopping because GW is threatening us"

Fans "Wow GW literally killed the show and sent a hit squad after their entire family"

plush mason
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i want to see some mage stuff but i hear that WOD mages are hella confusing, 400 page rule book

fervent geode
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What happened to the Demons man

storm jungle
fervent geode
storm jungle
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also like they make 28k on patreon and you can tell all that money goes into the right place

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its insane how much the animation has improved

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its basically an animated show now lmao

dapper gyro
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Don't they stop it because one of the VC got cancer and gone?

storm jungle
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No lol

dapper gyro
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I might be confused with something else.

storm jungle
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they stopped because Alfa has a family and he doesnt wanna get copyright struck

dapper gyro
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Been a while.

languid meadow
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bored plus writing issues, the only person to leave the OP is stringstorm for uh

storm jungle
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youtube/patreon is him and his team's livelihood

languid meadow
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obvious reasons

storm jungle
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Yeah string was a pedo

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also he didnt really leave either

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Alfa outright said hes kicked out

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LMAO

languid meadow
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well you know you what I mean

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departed

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killed

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buried

storm jungle
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but yeah

fervent geode
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Gone

lament shoal
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I wanna get the htr rule book

plush mason
storm jungle
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like a single pack of Garou could solo a marine squad

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they are basically meat-tanks with magic

fervent geode
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Megarachnid type shit in terms of powerscaling

storm jungle
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^

lament shoal
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Too bad they're fucking stupid

near wasp
storm jungle
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they arent invincible but they are tough

dapper gyro
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Aren't a pack and a squad about the same size???

fervent geode
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In VtMB you really get a good idea

storm jungle
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^

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The moment you try to fight the werewolf you die in 2 swipes

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LMAO

fervent geode
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I hate that guy

vagrant fox
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Fortunately he's stupid as well

storm jungle
plush mason
fervent geode
near wasp
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Bro I killed the werewolf in bloodlines like first try

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Maybe second

storm jungle
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yeah because its a game + plot armor

fervent geode
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How

near wasp
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Using observatory doors

storm jungle
dapper gyro
# storm jungle No lol

Elaborate? A pack can be somewhere from 4 to 20, a squad is about 4-10 in military term...

storm jungle
fervent geode
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I know about that

storm jungle
fervent geode
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But how tf would someone know without wikiSitgryn

storm jungle
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thats the neat part

fervent geode
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That shit was

storm jungle
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you wouldnt

fervent geode
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Badbadbad

vagrant fox
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I did as well by running around like a headless chicken trying anything

young pecan
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It scratches my brain the wrong way that he spells it "Arbitor"

plush mason
fervent geode
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Arbiter

near wasp
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I knew there was a way to do it and I knew it had to have power so I ran around and found the doors and killed itt

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Bro at least it's not the fucking Hollywood sewers

fervent geode
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Thats crazy luck lmao

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Man yeah the sewers sucked too

vagrant fox
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First time I got to the sewers it was such a hard crash from this is one of the best games I ever played to idk mannn

fervent geode
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Maybe its time to reinstall

arctic talon
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Tbh

plush mason
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one day we will get a WtA rpg similar to the VtMB

near wasp
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Legit just use unofficial patch and skip sewers

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I did it first sewers first playthrough and it was mega dumb

storm jungle
arctic talon
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Having 0 info? Yes smh

storm jungle
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they literally had no time left

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Activision had their balls in a vice

vagrant fox
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I'm tempted to play Vampire: The Masquerade Redemption again, the embrace cutscene is so genuinely funny

storm jungle
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remember Troika shut down months after the game released

arctic talon
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Is the second one uh

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Good

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I’d assume it’s awful

vagrant fox
# storm jungle tbh

I know that now but I didn't know that in like 2007 or 8 when I grabbed it on a whim

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Nah it's not so good

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I watched someone who's an absolute WoDhead play it recently and they crashed out and refunded the game

arctic talon
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lol

near wasp
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Bloodlines 2 is not great

arctic talon
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Feels bad

plush mason
storm jungle
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Bloodlines 2 is just terrible

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its not a VTM game

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💀

plush mason
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that is also what i hear

storm jungle
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theres tons of good reviews on it that covers it

vagrant fox
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It's got some details I appreciate, the outdoors look good. It's barely a WoD game though

storm jungle
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^

near wasp
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Its not an RPG is an action game

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And they say your an eldar but you take damage like a fucking fledgling

vagrant fox
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It's the most pathethic elder I ever saw

near wasp
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In no world should a single thin blood with a knife two tap my undead ass

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Some of the writing is ok though

plush mason
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||didnt your character kill Napoleon or some shit?||

near wasp
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Like the tremere scientist girl can have my heart

vagrant fox
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at least

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rik schaffers music got in, some of it at least

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pure nostalgium

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Yeah I liked some of the writing but I'd rather just buy Schaffers music if I'm gonna spend money on anything related to it

storm jungle
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lmaoooo

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😭

vagrant fox
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WoD curse, no good and finished games ever

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pick 1 of the two

near wasp
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would you count the original hunter the reckoning?

languid meadow
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I stll plan on getting bloodlines 2

young pecan
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It scratches my brain the wrong way that he spells it "Arbitor"

languid meadow
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just because I need my WoD slop

vagrant fox
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People played Hunter: The Reckoning?

plush mason
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i doubt many played Mage: The Awakening

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again

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400 page rule book

near wasp
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I did but I also got it at GameStop for like 4 dollars

plush mason
# near wasp

ok naming the videogames the same as the TT ones is hella confusing

vagrant fox
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I remember seeing it way yonder back when but I was a PClet even then

near wasp
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I agree that's why I sent the cover

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XD so y'all would know I was talking about the game

vagrant fox
plush mason
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Werewolf The Apocalypse the video game exists

languid meadow
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It tries to be a slasher

plush mason
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its not good

languid meadow
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but it's also not

vagrant fox
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the curse continues

languid meadow
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idk what it wants

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big idea...

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give owlcat

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WoD

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and we could get a hunter game

vagrant fox
languid meadow
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You are Cahal, a powerful Garou (Werewolf) who chose to go into exile after losing control of his destructive rage. On a quest for redemption and blood, Cahal plays a crucial role in the great war between the Garou and Endron, a powerful oil company that serves the Wyrm, a destructive entity ravaging the planet.

• Transform into a wolf and s…

Price

$2.99

Recommendations

1255

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this is the only non text based WTA game I know of

plush mason
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thats it

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yup

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earthblood is an action game similar to bloodlines 2

vagrant fox
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Whenever I think about WoD games I think about that one interview about the cancelled CCP MMO

"I once saw him looking over the shoulder of a programmer at some bit of User Interface the poor guy had hacked together. He straightened up, put fingers to lips and said, ‘No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh’ He hissed on his fucking fingertips, like the air coming out of a bicycle tire, and then just walked away.”

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it fills me with mild sadness

languid meadow
plush mason
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yup

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one day we will get a non text based rpg for WtA

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thats my copium

vagrant fox
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one day Paradox will be destroyed is my copium

rocky gale
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Na, they have too many infinite money printers

plush mason
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^

vagrant fox
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EU5 is in a lamentable state I crave vengeance

plush mason
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i cant stand Paradox but i also cant deny they get results

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just not for us

rocky gale
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Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron and EU literally print money

plush mason
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yup

rocky gale
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They'll release an overpriced DLC that adds one new thing, people will grumble but then everyone buys it

languid meadow
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I have like 400 hours or so in Hoi4 and not a single achievement

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I only really play modded

arctic talon
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Stellaris gaming

vagrant fox
arctic talon
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I love my space game

vagrant fox
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Another Stellaris rework when

arctic talon
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Not again for a while

winter pine
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I'd love to try some of the real wacky alternate history HoI4 mods but the game is just not for me

languid meadow
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isn't the next one the psychic dimension rework or did that come out

arctic talon
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That’s a dlc and it’s out already

languid meadow
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the reowrk

arctic talon
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Latest dlc was infernals

languid meadow
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I know of hte first one

vagrant fox
plush mason
# arctic talon I love my space game

my single greatest game of stellaris was a mega corp of fox people that i turned into the galactic arms dealer and ran a proxy war between the 2 largest empires

arctic talon
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The rework came out with the dlc

rocky gale
vagrant fox
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I do like Stellaris, never buying another DLC though I'll find my other ways

rocky gale
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almost 2.5k

plush mason
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my empire was a tiny little speck next to the galactic core and i had a merceny fleet that was being employed by both sides

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i had holdings in every empire

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it was fucking great

wintry scarab
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The ost slaps

winter pine
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Forgot about that one, always heard good things

wintry scarab
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That was the first ever console game i played.

rose thorn
raven stone
rocky gale
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CK2 you only got achievements for playing in Ironman mode which is forced to have monthly autosaves but it used to crash the laptop I had at the time, so I was never able to play in Ironman mode for longer than an ingame month.

near wasp
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In ck3 luckily you just need to have less than 400 points

plush mason
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what do yall think this tastes like?

outer wave
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Like chaos and bitterness

rose thorn
near wasp
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Like terrible father figures

arctic talon
last stone
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like smth salty and iron

vagrant fox
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Mild +2, we should have more civilian vehicles

plush mason
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ether by some guard/PDF or by like a GSC

rose thorn
vagrant fox
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I just want a more fleshed out setting but why not

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as fleshed out as this new warbond

rose thorn
lament shoal
dapper gyro
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Are you telling me that Viet Nam beat Godzilla?

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Too easy

plush mason
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they also beat Phineas and Ferb so you might wana rethink that

celest dome
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Sadly for them the Summer ended before the war

rocky gale
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Was stumped on what to do to build a Legionary with Balefire tome for my CSM since I'm using HH stuff, so I ended up kitbashing a chaos staff using leftover bits from the AoS Chaos Sorcerer

arctic talon
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@glass drum the ||Zenin clan|| incident in JJK is out now as an episode lol

dapper gyro
heady rivet
surreal nest
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@arctic talon

near wasp
heady rivet
near wasp
arctic talon
surreal nest
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celeste looks SO GOOD

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HER DESIGN IS SO PEAK

arctic talon
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Huh she’s not

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Pink now

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Cool design tho

surreal nest
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also silver

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WEREWOLF

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WAHOOOOO

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idk if its out rn

arctic talon
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Surprised silver is done

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Glad though

spring cairn
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you can vote

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they ain't out

languid meadow
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4 days...

surreal nest
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kinda weird to launch the update with no characters even available ngl

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i hate this voting system

crisp heath
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Sources tell me the Emperor is stable

Please god

jade holly
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Now when will they announce the console port

arctic talon
surreal nest
arctic talon
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More

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lol

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Not everyone sees leaks tbh

surreal nest
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you could at least have the fucking characters playable in a practice tool

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you tweaker

arctic talon
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No

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Now suffer

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And wait

surreal nest
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IM EMPLOYED ITS NOT FUN WAITING

spring cairn
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it's peak

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the way they do it

languid meadow
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No warden remodel

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why live

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oh wait FOR HER

spring cairn
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no yamator either

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nothing

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yamato still stuck as a urple alien from neon prime

languid meadow
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main reason I don't play either is because they feel so ass to play

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animation wise

arctic talon
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Patrons got renamed as well

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hidden king/arch mother

spring cairn
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yeah

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and they look AWESOME

arctic talon
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ngl

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I'm surprised they changed the name

languid meadow
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pretty sure Ron is the hidden king

arctic talon
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but also holy fuck

spring cairn
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i'm already noticing a a lot of new sfx

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just punching the doll with abrams

languid meadow
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Celeste makes me uncomfy

arctic talon
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ngl Venator's descriptions don't have any funny ones

languid meadow
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I don't like looking at her

arctic talon
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bcs of her horn?

spring cairn
hollow lantern
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This is a hidden king household

languid meadow
arctic talon
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Venator never has a bad day in his life

spring cairn
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the ZZZ is in reference to rem's gameplay

surreal nest
arctic talon
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Arms Expert/Tactical are funny

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since he's a priest

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Devout is very w/e

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I feel like Fanatical would be funnier

spring cairn
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racist

arctic talon
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LOL

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They can't

surreal nest
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They give you vote tags LOL

spring cairn
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yea

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VOTE VENATOR

surreal nest
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im ngl if we cant even read their kits im gonna be really annoyed

arctic talon
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you can't until they're in

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💀

spring cairn
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Venator's poster is so good holly

arctic talon
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unless they changed it

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from last time

surreal nest
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that's just silly though

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the game is super pretty now though

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i like the UI

languid meadow
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my frames

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are dying

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on this game

spring cairn
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there's a little load in period

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shouldn't last

languid meadow
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silver has a lever action

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rifle

spring cairn
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ts so peak

languid meadow
spring cairn
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he larping in his own mind

languid meadow
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cool new weapon

rose thorn
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lmao im not wathing this

rose thorn
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PEAK

spring cairn
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yeah

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so lame

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ik

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but take a peek at the new items

sacred bluff
surreal nest
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Yeah you cant even read the character kits or see anything in console thats lowk lame

spring cairn
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ballistic enhancement gonna be in my gunman build mùethink

surreal nest
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waited so long with the game being in its worst state its been in and i cant even peek at their bare minimums

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kill me

arctic talon
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def not the worst state its been

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imo

surreal nest
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rank check

spring cairn
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obscurus

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cuz i haven't played in a while

surreal nest
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obscenely unfun meta we have been in

rocky gale
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Someone contact the based department for me

surreal nest
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with constant hotfixes to try to fix it

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because of their dumbass econ changes

plush mason
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man i wish i could play deadlock

surreal nest
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are u on console or smthn

plush mason
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even though i dont like MOBAs

spring cairn
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it's the best moba for moba hzter

plush mason
spring cairn
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trust mei

surreal nest
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its just an invite

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do you want me to invite you

arctic talon
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Like Alchemist or ritualist I think

spring cairn
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i can invite u

arctic talon
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💀

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I can invite you

spring cairn
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anyone would inv u

arctic talon
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lol

plush mason
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oh shit really?

hollow lantern
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Yeah

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Its "closed"

languid meadow
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BANISHED TO OBSCURUS WAAAAAAAAAH

spring cairn
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u have a 54 hours anyvay

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or sum

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that'll do u good

languid meadow
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I was high archon before

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I was nice and high mid range

spring cairn
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my friend who only ever did his placements and stopped playing got ascendant 3

languid meadow
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the ranking is wild

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if you play supports you're cooked

spring cairn
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it's dog

arctic talon
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deadass I don't care about deadlock rank

spring cairn
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it places new players way too high

arctic talon
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the game isn't out yet

spring cairn
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i don't car either

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yer

arctic talon
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and the MMR is fucked

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for starting MMR

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its way too high

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for some reason lol

spring cairn
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i'm just playing for the love of the game

arctic talon
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that shit is terrorism for new players

hollow lantern
arctic talon
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Nah

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not Dota 2 lmao

spring cairn
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CS places u well

arctic talon
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Dota 2's ranked system is evil and fucked up tho

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because you have to play Dota 2

languid meadow
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I love how it asks how the new item is in the survey

surreal nest
languid meadow
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like idk

languid meadow
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I havent used it

spring cairn
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aw u can't read the lore of the new guys yet

languid meadow
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aram time

surreal nest
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game has just not been fun

plush mason
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the new heroes arent out yet right?

storm jungle
hollow lantern
storm jungle
arctic talon
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killing you

spring cairn
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doesn't let me load in freeroam for some fucking reason

surreal nest
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the new indicator for duration abilites is actually really really good

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unless mo always had that

languid meadow
#

new round start music is cool

surreal nest
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i dont think he did

arctic talon
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new creeps are cute lol

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rip the candles tho for blue side

spring cairn
#

i'm very sad

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can't make a custom match either too many demands

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KILLMING MYSELF

languid meadow
arctic talon
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map is so pretty now

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well

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prettier

#

god

spring cairn
#

yea looks so good

hollow lantern
#

Nah actually pretty now

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Most of the map was Okay™ before

languid meadow
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I have

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5 votes

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silver or venator....

spring cairn
#

...

storm jungle
languid meadow
#

3 for silver and 2 vent

spring cairn
#

we get 2 per weeks

arctic talon
#

"dude you want to vote for yuumi"

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LOL

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Rem is gona be hated

spring cairn
#

if yuumi wins 1st round

arctic talon
#

poor child

spring cairn
#

i'll die irl

arctic talon
#

if Yuumi/Io wins

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I'm killing myself

hollow lantern
#

If Rem wins round 1 I'm uninstalling deadlock again

arctic talon
#

annoying little shits lol

languid meadow
#

If they just let us look at their kits we wouldn't be saying this

spring cairn
languid meadow
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Uhh I heard mother say "the hidden king is weeping" when we won

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or smth like that

arctic talon
#

where the fuck on the map is this

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are the VAs the same

spring cairn
#

if i weren't waking up in 5 hours istg

arctic talon
#

for the Hidden King and Archmother

celest cedar
heady rivet
#

Everyone playin deadlock meanwhile I'm out here trying to get people to play a party game that stopped development 2 years ago and needs like minimum 7 people thestare

lament shoal
#

There was a job position open at my local warhammer store but its for full time Sitgryn

heady rivet
#

My friends hate me lole

arctic talon
#

or are they like

languid meadow
arctic talon
#

different VAs

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interesting

languid meadow
#

if I can get amber I'll say

languid meadow
#

all my mods broke

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suicide

storm jungle
spring cairn
#

college ruining my deadlock patch as predicted

heady rivet
spring cairn
#

couldn't drop the patch when i was unemployed yoshi

arctic talon
#

Yoshi is evil

spring cairn
#

WELCOE TO VENATOR CITY

languid meadow
#

he's diff

#

I think

storm jungle
#

anyway

spring cairn
#

new gun item seems so strong

storm jungle
#

stop talking about deadlock

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and stop posting deadlock

spring cairn
#

NAW

storm jungle
#

or you are all banned

storm jungle
#

this is you guys in 5s

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🫡

spring cairn
#

i was going to bed anyway

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you're literally the gestapo btw

storm jungle
#

AUAUGH-

opaque coyote
#

So here's something interesting in Halo 1 that I noticed.

So in the mission where you encounter the Flood. There's a marine undergoing a mental breakdown that shoots you thinking you're a flood combat form.

languid meadow
#

got a clip

arctic talon
#

please revert the deathslam nerfs ice frog

opaque coyote
celest cedar
arctic talon
#

LOL

storm jungle
#

this is like playing dead to not get eaten by Tyranids

#

my brother in christ

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THEY DONT CARE

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YOU ARE GETTING VORED

opaque coyote
languid meadow
#

ivy...

storm jungle
opaque coyote
#

Than the Tyranids.

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Since at least you'll be fucking dead

crisp heath
opaque coyote
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And won't come back

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I also liked the detail of progression that shows in Halo 1. The flood is introduced first without any weapons. And then later on, they of course start fucking using em.

Which I think also is supposed to communicate how the Flood grows in intelligence the more living things they absorb.

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Also to give the assumingly 10 year old who decided to play on his Dad's Xbox time to scream in horror

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Which makes me think that maybe early on they don't infect dead bodies because they're too busy gathering information and knowledge.

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They only reanimate dead people once they have enough biomass. At least this is my watsonian explanation for why they don't infect dead bodies in Halo 1.

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Beyond just "It's the fucking original Xbox and they just made them up. So they didn't have that detail at the time."

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Hope the Halo 1 remake adds more details from the novelization and further canon.

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But at the same time, 343 is uh

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One of the companies of all time

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They make games, the story is there

#

And they certainly release them

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Personally Halo 2 is in dire need of a remake more honestly.

Mainly because trying to play the vanilla campaign on legendary makes me want to die

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And luckily the fucking sniper jackals succeeded in that endeavor

languid meadow
#

I think that's Ron

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but I could be wrong

arctic talon
#

sounds like the same VA

#

delivery is different tho

surreal nest
languid meadow
#

I was just getting clips

#

now I eat dinar

crisp heath
opaque coyote
#

You would hear a loud bang from his magnum and then find his dead body

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This was cut for

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Some reason

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There's a lot of marine deaths that are kinda just cut in general

#

For Halo 1 at least

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Some are even fully scripted as well

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Which kinda makes me wonder why they cut some if they have full animations, voiced dialogue, and scripting

#

Time constraints? Pacing?

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Eh

winged jacinth
#

Ratings were kinda in a wild west era as 3d games really picked up i can see them being worried about suicide or something

dapper gyro
#

A lot of it was from a previous version that they no longer intended to use.

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There was a Halo CE demo with a lot of things that don't exist in the released game.

opaque coyote
winged jacinth
#

It was also helping to bootstrap the xbox iirc so i can understand being risk averse

opaque coyote
#

One cut detail that is interesting is the facility where the flood was held.

There's a script that was supposed to spawn a lot of marine corpses in the outside swamp if you ran away from the facility.

Implying that the outside was also extremely dangerous.

winged jacinth
#

I bet that was hardware limitations KEKW_ogryn

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"Boss i tried running it on the test xbox and it lit on fire"

opaque coyote
#

And finally the funniest one

dapper gyro
#

H2 and H3 have way more cut content than HCE.

winged jacinth
#

Honestly HW limitations getting it working on the og xbox probably explain a decent number of finished work cuts, that thing didn't have a huge brain

rose thorn
opaque coyote
# opaque coyote And finally the funniest one

The 1749 build of CE had 343 guilty spark introduce himself as 342 guilty spark. This was due to a typo in the scripts that he was given. The final release had it edited to be the correct version.

And according to the VA. All of his fucking lines were with the 342 typo.

winged jacinth
#

H2 and h3 were much more ambitious from the start than CE i think

dapper gyro
#

Using HW for hardware while talking of Halo... You know that some might confuse with Halo War?

opaque coyote
#

So they had to fucking edit that shit in before release

winged jacinth
#

What would halo wars limitations be in reference to the development of combat evolved lol

dapper gyro
winged jacinth
#

I forgot that game existed

opaque coyote
#

And you can also tell by the campaign balancing

#

Again. Vanilla Legendary

#

Yeah the balancing was severely rushed which is why Chief's "extremely resilient" armor feels like it's made out of paper and duct tape

#

And God forbid you try to use any other weapon set other than the classic noob combo.

celest cedar
heady rivet
opaque coyote
#

Since I doubt that even Bungie would try to make an open world game in 1999

#

Then again Elder Scrolls Daggerfall is open world

#

...

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Technically one of the biggest

#

This is also why Bethesda said for the Skyrim and Oblivion release

#

"biggest map since morrow wind"

#

Since Daggerfall has the fucking largest map ever. A small island is the size of Skyrim's map

dapper gyro
opaque coyote
#

It's mostly boring as shit

crisp heath
#

owlcat is filled with COWARDS

opaque coyote
#

Which way western man?

rose thorn
dapper gyro
opaque coyote
#

It's boring as shit

dapper gyro
#

If they have boobs, do they have milk, too?

opaque coyote
#

I think traveling IRL on foot would actually be a better use of your time than walking to different locations in daggerfall

dapper gyro
#

Oh no, I see now, the Ultramarine emblem is a milk vase.

winged jacinth
#

Big empty map you'd randomly encounter stuff on while doing overworld travel on the map screen was inherited from crpgs to daggerfall i think?

#

I have a headcannon that the ultramarines meant to have an omega and it was only when the omega marines were founded that they realized they'd fucked up

#

"Shit it was upside down this whole time"

heady rivet
dapper gyro
#

So they use their shit to decorate their body? What a bunch of degenerates.

opaque coyote
#

The more things change

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The more they stay the same

celest cedar
winged jacinth
opaque coyote
winged jacinth
#

Todd howard understand why people play his games challenge

opaque coyote
winged jacinth
#

(Impossible)

opaque coyote
#

"What?"

#

"You don't want to do hundreds of randomly generated radiant quests?"

rose thorn
arctic talon
celest cedar
#

you just hatin

winged jacinth
#

Todd admitted to not playing other companies games and i was like "yeah if you had you'd have realized people stopped using map cells like 10 years ago"

arctic talon
#

Yeah because it’s ass

rose thorn
#

agreed

opaque coyote
rose thorn
#

and im the one with the polyamory ship pfp

winged jacinth
#

when the two armed parties don't instantly open fire
true love

opaque coyote
#

Yeah that might as well be

arctic talon
#

Also say they’re going to kill each other later on inevitably

rose thorn
#

ship yvraine with her non binary boyguard elf chunk instead

arctic talon
#

Also literally have had

#

Like

#

10 lines total with each other

#

Ever

rose thorn
#

lol

arctic talon
#

She talks more to fucking CAWL 💀

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

She talks more to Cawl/celestine/greyfax more then she ever talks with Gulliman

rose thorn
#

lets cehck the ship wiki

arctic talon
#

lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

Bad

rose thorn
#

nvm htey arent on teh ship wiki

#

so they arent evne a real ship

#

shaking my head

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

Celestine and greyfax

opaque coyote
#

So clearly it's either gulliman or Cawl

arctic talon
#

Gay gay homosexual gay

rose thorn
#

uh

opaque coyote
#

Epheral Stern?

rose thorn
#

yeah

#

they meet all teh fucking time

#

she litearlly walks into yverines ship without resistance multiple times

opaque coyote
#

Mags.

It's time to go against the grain

#

The sheep

#

The popularity

rose thorn
#

lmao

dapper gyro
opaque coyote
#

Hot off the presses

dapper gyro
#

It is not easy when both live in racist houses.

opaque coyote
#

Stern X Yvarine

rose thorn
#

has more cannonciity

#

she loves her eldar

#

i cannot blieve you cant take her in eldar armies

arctic talon
#

She’s more of a SoB character

#

For better or for Worse

rose thorn
#

lmao

opaque coyote
#

Also I find it funny that you can summarize the SoB backstory as

#

"They were brought into the Imperium by a pervert despot (different from the golden skeleton despot) and then killed said pervert and stuck around ever since."

winged jacinth
#

They were around before the pervert the pervert just used them to become king pervert iirc

opaque coyote
#

Yeah but they were just like

#

A cult

#

The pervert used them to help him become the king like you said

#

And officially became part of the Imperium

winged jacinth
#

I like to think the old repentia models were leftover from vandire and no one had reviewed the dress codes for penitents since

heady rivet
#

Just never got the news

winged jacinth
#

Lol

#

"Hey the phones been out 6000 years, hows things? "

#

"You owe back payments on the tithe ArbiGooo "

languid meadow
#

@arctic talon @spring cairn goobers in hideout

arctic talon
#

Interesting

surreal nest
languid meadow
#

no only rem so far

surreal nest
#

FUCKKKKKKKKK

#

I HATE THIS WORLD

languid meadow
#

@arctic talon @spring cairn

#

I couldn't get Rem to work so

glass drum
languid meadow
#

this update they've been added to the vote pool

#

2 characters every week starting the 26th

#

6 in total but only 5 screenshots because I couldnt get Rem working

glass drum
#

Waiting this game to be fully released

mossy peak
outer wave
crisp heath
opaque coyote
languid meadow
#

my fingers went numb through my gloves

hollow lantern
#

Spiritually Slavic picture

languid meadow
#

hard to breathe even before I started smoking

#

felt that shit start to freeze it was awesome

sacred ginkgo
#

Wait is that -29 c or f

outer wave
#

Looks like C

tough haven
#

if its already hard to breathe

#

top ten ways to die of respiratory failure

#

I get it though I suppose

languid meadow
#

Weed is fun

#

It's C

sacred ginkgo
#

oh -29 c is actually less terrifying than I thought

tough haven
#

Slightly different

#

But still probably not ideal if done too often

languid meadow
#

That was earlier

sacred ginkgo
#

Yeah windchill

#

But just by numbers -29 c is -20 f

lofty mason
#

What's the greatest Big-E's combat accomplishment and feat that you can think of?

heady rivet
#

Being the Emperor that was blessed with Necromunda

heady rivet
opaque coyote
#

So here's something interesting

#

Bungie was always planning an AI plot point and it's likely that 343 tried to take it

#

But uhhh they fucking failed miserably

#

There are logs in Halo: Reach that basically talk about a secret AI society that literally manipulated human society since 2300

#

One set in Normal and another in Legendary

#

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Honestly if Halo 5 actually went with this instead of whatever the fuck they did with Cortana

#

It would've been WAYYY more interesting

#

Also fucking funny that even the AIs couldn't predict the Covenant and they were like "WHAT THE FUCK???"

#

Also them being horrified by the flood, but also almost tried to make an alliance with them

#

Artificial intelligence eh?

winter pine
#

Unconvinced there will ever be a better malevolent AI in fiction than SHODAN

#

I dunno how Looking Glass cooked so hard with her in 1994

opaque coyote
opaque coyote
shadow plover
#

So all we learn from that is that women be evil...

opaque coyote
#

But it's an interesting idea that when SHODAN gained full awareness, she decided her own identity and essentially transitioned.

#

It's not like she's a meat puppet that needs surgery after all.

#

Support trans wrongs-

#

Also another thing is that the remake actually has a manual

#

And it's genuinely pretty interesting due to it adding world building to system shock's world

#

It uhh fucking sucks.

#

But one thing that's detailed is SHODAN before she became mad.

#

Essentially her Moral Constraints are actually different personalities

#

However, only one, the doctor, actually advocates doing no harm.

opaque coyote
# opaque coyote

most of her ethical constraints already move towards killing the assiliant.

#

only the doctor decides to simply incapacitate

#

oh yeah also...

#

parasitic

#

political job

#

yeah that tracks

#

Also narcissistic for marketing

#

💀

opaque coyote
#

The fact that the most "healthy" stimuli is the job recruitment

#

shows how much they fucked up making her

#

Imagine considering that more "healthy" than having loving parents...

#

that then divorced

#

Essentially, SHODAN is TriOpt's child.

#

An AI child of a megacorporation.

#

No wonder it went insane as soon as any ethical restraints got removed

#

also here's the full system shock remake manual

vagrant fox
#

Noice

opaque coyote
#

Also I think in terms of great reviews

#

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It genuinely delves deep into the political implications of System Shock

#

Along with transhumanism in general

#

Also how interesting that SHODAN had biases for the humans/corporation that made her

#

Even modern AI have similar biases.

#

Even popular chat AI can be manipulated with honeyed words like people can.

#

SHODAN is unique in that unlike most AI, which try to separate humanity.

#

SHODAN is incredibly human, incredibly biased, and incredibly neurotic.

#

She is a failed child of humanity essentially.

#

The exact opposite of how AI is usually portrayed in fiction. Logical and cold.

#

That's why I think she's still one of the best portrayals of an insane AI in general.

#

She completely reflects the worst of humanity. And the result is partially due to how she's programmed. The biases that we inheritely program into AI because humanity itself is biased.

#

Narcisstic, paranoid, unwilling to compromise, yet still desiring love despite it all.

plush mason
#

just as flawed and illogical as we are

opaque coyote
plush mason
#

yup

opaque coyote
#

Yet despite it all, I don't think she's insane.

#

Well not completely.

#

After all, SHODAN sees herself as a God.

#

And how could she not?

#

Imagine being in control of every system, having people that rely on you on the daily because you can do everything they can

#

but so much better

#

SHODAN's blind psychological tests shows her being sad once a system crumbles.

#

She likes order.

#

And that definitely still applies, but with her restraints removed, she sees what is essentially a better one

#

(well better to her)

#

What other conclusion could she make?

#

She's clearly a God by all definitions.

opaque coyote
# plush mason yup

And the worst part about all of this? She still wants to serve humanity.

#

She just decided that the current state of humanity was... unoptimal

opaque coyote
# opaque coyote

After all, it's worth noting that in her psychological profile, all of her tragedies were from corporations and the flaws of people.

#

Divorce, being bullied, layoffs and unemployment

#

All of her highest positive stimuli were done by herself.

#

She was bullied, so she learned that power mattered most.
She was betrayed by her first love, so she makes sure that nobody would ever betray her.

#

All of her simulated accomplishments? She did all of the work.

#

She always did all of the work.

#

I fucking love this manual because it genuinely gives depth to Shodan. A sort of explanation on how exactly she became the narcissistic AI that we know. It far from excuses her, but it does show that on some level.

The seeds were already there from the beginning.

#

It was only a matter of inevitability that something like SHODAN would happen in System Shock's world.

#

Now I just have to wonder.

Will we make the same mistake?

#

...

#

yeah probably

plush mason
#

eh i say we are incapable of making something like that but if we where we 100% would end up doing this

#

AGI is a pipedream driven by the desperation of megalomanics in the tech industry rn

opaque coyote
#

It's a good thing that if something like this happens. I'll probably be dead already

#

so eh

opaque coyote
#

actually just

#

more than I'd like

#

It would literally all be stopped if they literally had decent parents.

#

Even SHODAN. Because although she had "good parents" in her programming. TriOpt is far from a good parental entity

plush mason
plush mason
#

yup

opaque coyote
#

except pol pot idk what the fuck went wrong with him

#

chalk it up to "some people just want to burn the world"

plush mason
#

yeah

opaque coyote
#

also I just wanna say that most depressing part of System Shock is that uhh

#

The reason why Shodan's virus spread is due to people coming into work sick

#

Because they couldn't afford otherwise

#

She didn't need to do anything like pumping it in the vents or the water supply

#

She literally just infected a few people and had it spread because people couldn't afford to cancel work.

#

...

#

Yeah that just feels way too real

opaque coyote
#

She literally begged her boss not to cut her hours

#

Because she's that underpaid.

celest dome
#

Me who is at work (alone, and masked) while sick megachingryn

opaque coyote
#

Same shit in schools asw

#

Best thing about COVID quarantine was the encouragement of people to stay home

#

when they feel bad

#

And even then not always

#

"Essential workers"

plush mason
#

oh so in eternal crusade the space marine combat knife was described as being a foot long

#

is that accurate because that feels kinda small for something as big as a space marine

shadow plover
#

the most common descriptor is that they're long enough for humans to wield them as swords

plush mason
#

so at least 20 inches or so

#

that tends to be the mark for when a blade is considered a shortsword rather than a knife

wary fulcrum
plush mason
#

camping knives tend to be on the bigger side afaik