#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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Entirely depends.

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Custodians exist as a tabletop faction and you can literally make a Shield Host whos job is anything, same with pre-existing Hosts who can just be anywhere for any reason as long as it makes some sense.

arctic talon
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Shield host who’s main job is to find really pretty flowers for the emperors garden

queen laurel
celest willow
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Custodians are weird tbh

languid meadow
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you have 10 chapters worse of numbers of them go wild

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goatstodes

rose thorn
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If they reveal underworlds in the 26th I promise I’ll buy it

storm jungle
celest willow
storm jungle
celest willow
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I just find them interesting

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like they make u realize how shoddy and brutish space marine production is

storm jungle
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I mean their production is awful too its just more intricate

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they literally experiment on a infant child with genetics and alchemy

arctic talon
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Mmmmm gene alchemy

languid meadow
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well yeah maybe dont be a baby abandoned at the doorstep of the palace it's dat shrimple

celest willow
languid meadow
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also bulgaria just joined a channel I saw it pop up

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wtf

celest willow
storm jungle
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Its ceremonial and also gives your family boasting-points yeah

celest willow
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Meanwhile space marines just kidnap random slum orphans

storm jungle
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Beggers cant be choosers

languid meadow
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pretty sure it can be both but the random babies is more rare

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hold on

celest willow
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Imagine a navigator space marine or custodian

storm jungle
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Thats not really how it works

arctic talon
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Not possible as far as we know

storm jungle
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a navigator baby will always be in a navigator family

arctic talon
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Yeah

storm jungle
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they'd kill an entire city before letting a navigator child escape

celest willow
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Nothing is stoping the inquisition from stealing the genetic makeup of a navigator

queen laurel
storm jungle
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Also other imperial institutions

languid meadow
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Navis have tons of pull

storm jungle
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^

languid meadow
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even more than the inquisition

arctic talon
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The navigators will fucking kill you

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Lol

storm jungle
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They are literally massive mercantile empires

arctic talon
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You are cooked

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You cannot do shit against the navigators as a whole

celest willow
storm jungle
arctic talon
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This would violate too much

storm jungle
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^

arctic talon
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Unless they wana retcon stuff

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Which is fine

storm jungle
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"Anything is canon" doesnt work when the idea itself is too silly/convoluted

arctic talon
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But also in the current state no

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Also besides we know marine conversion process doesn’t work on abhumans

storm jungle
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but GW also has shown the retcons they do largely dont effect anything

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so lol

arctic talon
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Genetic incompatibility

storm jungle
celest willow
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Just everything about that guy

storm jungle
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I mean so?

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Malcador isnt a navigator marine. So its unrelated.

arctic talon
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You cannot shove geneseed into a navigator likely

celest willow
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am just saying a navigator custodian would be cool

arctic talon
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They’ll prolly just die

storm jungle
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I mean why though

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whats the point

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A navigator does their job fine

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lol

arctic talon
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Bcs using the third eye as a weapon is my guess

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lol

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The lidless eye™

storm jungle
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Just have a relic that can do that lol

celest willow
storm jungle
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This is like "My guardsman is a superman that can just shoot lasers from his eyes because its cool."

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theres no need for it

celest willow
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counterpoint: everything WH40k

storm jungle
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I mean no?

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lol

celest willow
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like buzz saw swords

vagrant fox
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Dilara make a Tighten meme edit, there are no blank marines, there are no navigator marines, and there is no good guy marines
Get to it 👏 👏

storm jungle
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a navigator marine is a literal political crisis

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same with a custodian

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it would make navigator houses on terra rebel or worse

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You dont encroach on a monopolised territory of another faction in the Imperium

celest willow
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Where there is a will there is a way

young pecan
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That makes me wonder how tech marines even became an acceptable result

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Admech are SO stingy

limpid granite
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Couldnt navigators simply be incompatible because of their mutations?

storm jungle
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Yeah that is the case.

storm jungle
celest willow
storm jungle
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No?

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what

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LMAO

limpid granite
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Uhh

storm jungle
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Abhumans literally cannot become Marines.

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they are too mutated

celest willow
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you sure?

storm jungle
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Yes?

celest willow
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Hol on imma google it

young pecan
storm jungle
limpid granite
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You cant deviate from the human dogma too far before you become incompatible with the marine process

celest willow
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Bruh

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Nvm am wrong

storm jungle
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Bruh

young pecan
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I'm sure a genius could engineer the geneseed to make ogryns and navigators compatible

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But no

storm jungle
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where the hell did you think ogryn marines existed lol

limpid granite
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Also techmarines fit because its smart to have a combat ready engineer

celest willow
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Ig I confused drugged ogryns for marine ogryns

storm jungle
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💀

limpid granite
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But often theyre disliked by both marines and admech

storm jungle
young pecan
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I'm just surprised Admech was fine sharing their secrets with marines at all

storm jungle
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I mean they arent

celest willow
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Man a navigator psychic custodian would be cool

storm jungle
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they teach them the basics

limpid granite
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Most likely just the basics

limpid granite
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Like appeasing the machine spirit field repairs and such

celest willow
storm jungle
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its goofy

limpid granite
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Hard repairs and machine spirit shutdowns would have to be fixed on the battle barge or command base

celest willow
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sometimes what a girl needs is the WH40k equivalent of a Trex with a minigun strapped to it

young pecan
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I feel like techmarines get more than just bare bone basics considering they train away from their chapter for years

storm jungle
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Nah, they get basics, the lore says as much.

young pecan
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I'm sure they don't get the full scoop regardless

storm jungle
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The basics themselves are extensive as it is anyway

limpid granite
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Techpriests would never divulge their secrets

storm jungle
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Vehicles, weapons, fixing that shit, machine spirits, yada yada

celest willow
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Btw techmarines are extremely propaganda fed by the admech iirc

storm jungle
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Depends.

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They worship the Omnissiah usually but as ever theres no monolith.

young pecan
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Oh well for things that are still very advanced for a normal person still fitting under "basics", yeah true

limpid granite
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They probably get more information than a tech adept

young pecan
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It does make sense that AdMech are only fine with the whole thing because they temporarily nab and indoctrinate the marines in question for some years

storm jungle
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A basic engineering course is like 4-5 years.

Now imagine that but you also get taught everything about military vehicles, aircraft and every little thing of what makes them tick.

That alone would be even more years ontop of that.

storm jungle
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they also need each other

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its a beneficial transaction

celest willow
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The admech ain’t gonna hand u secrets without injecting ur brain with 8TB of Omnissiah chants

young pecan
limpid granite
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I do wonder if forgefathers are allowed secrets or if they have their own methods

storm jungle
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again no monolith answer

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this is like asking "is a cop gonna help me if i get stabbed in the street"

arctic talon
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Tech marines(usually) hold more loyalty to the chapter then the forgeworld they’re trained on

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Emphasis on usually

storm jungle
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who the fuck knows whos where and what lol

arctic talon
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In the US the cops legally don’t need to help you if you’re getting stabbed to death 💀

young pecan
vagrant fox
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Speaking of tech marines which story is it where one meets his former admech mentor?

arctic talon
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The police also technically don’t need to help you if you get robbed

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Ect.

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It’s kinda goofy lol

celest willow
young pecan
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Insert eight morbillion instances where cops look at something that obviously happened and went "No it didn't, and if it did then I don't feel like dealing with it"

celest willow
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who wins

celest willow
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United States cop VS walnut

arctic talon
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It was an acorn

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Actually

young pecan
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If a crime has a price attached to it, it's only a crime for the poor

arctic talon
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SHOTS FIRED SHOTS FIRED

young pecan
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AM I HIT

arctic talon
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almost shoots the person they fucking arrested

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And other people

celest willow
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Proceeds to magdump care like a idiot

arctic talon
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And the other cop

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💀

storm jungle
arctic talon
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That dude should have prolly gone to prison

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But since he’s a cop he doesn’t

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lol

storm jungle
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insane how you literally can just walk after doing the most horrible shit if you got a great lawyer

young pecan
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I don't know that was pretty poor performance

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You can barely say "almost"

arctic talon
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No for discharging their firearm like that

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But whatever

storm jungle
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also second favorite thing

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"Oh the upcoming witness obviously was killed off-court? WELP too bad!"

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💀

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thanks guys very helpful

celest willow
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Didn’t they say he has mental health problems as a excuse

storm jungle
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Basically anything really

celest willow
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Like bro shouldn’t even be on the job

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Actually brain dead tbh

storm jungle
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but it doesnt matter, hes a cop as elite said, they always walk

vagrant fox
arctic talon
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Cops need to do some insane shit

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To actually go to trial often

young pecan
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The bagel he had that morning was laced with opiates (poppy seeds) he couldn't control himself

arctic talon
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In the US

arctic talon
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Weapon of mass destruction: fent

celest willow
arctic talon
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I mean yeah

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If you’ve got the money

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And can hire a lawyer

storm jungle
celest willow
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if ur broke or a minority ur screwed

arctic talon
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And don’t mind the biggest criminal organization in the US

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Police unions

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Are like

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Actual fucking gangs lol

vagrant fox
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I'm very puzzled by US police, do they really need all that military surplus to not deal with school shooters?

young pecan
storm jungle
storm jungle
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I MEAN

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school shooters

arctic talon
storm jungle
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^

young pecan
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KILL HIM

arctic talon
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The police as an institution need a total fucking overhaul in the US lol

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Not enough training

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Trained to escalate

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Also

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So much fucking military surplus

celest willow
hallow saddle
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i read its just 12 weeks training for a police officer in US

arctic talon
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You do not need a goddamn breaching vehicle from the gulf war

hallow saddle
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LOL

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thats fucking nothing

arctic talon
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Lowest known is 1 month

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Btw

vagrant fox
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I read some of the police have M113s like what the shit for

celest willow
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Gotta be atleast 2 years + mental health checks

hallow saddle
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all the gear & no idea

arctic talon
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Oh also

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Some police precincts

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Don’t Hire you if your IQ is too high

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You literally cannot make this shit up

hallow saddle
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haha yeah i read that too

arctic talon
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The person who didn’t get hired sued and lost in court over it

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Bcs “it’s not discrimination”

storm jungle
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literally just Adeptus Arbites

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lmao

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holy fuck

arctic talon
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The arbites get more training smh

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They’re just like 2x more violent

storm jungle
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"2x more"

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yeah uh

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i dunno about that one looking at US cops

vagrant fox
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Genuinely what the hell for, crushing orphans? Running over some homeless people?

storm jungle
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Holy shit

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space marine rhino!

arctic talon
celest willow
rose thorn
storm jungle
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idk why people object to this

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lmao

arctic talon
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Because it’s yucky

rose thorn
storm jungle
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Because rich irredeemable piece of shit plutocrats should be disgusting.

celest willow
storm jungle
arctic talon
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Lol

arctic talon
storm jungle
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"its yucky"

rose thorn
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Rites of passage

storm jungle
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mfer this is 40k

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lmao

arctic talon
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People get grossed out by incest in fictional settings

celest willow
arctic talon
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Not my problem

vagrant fox
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It can be handled with style and swag, see the Kress twins

storm jungle
storm jungle
rose thorn
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They are like “for the first time in millennium our biomagus have decided to allow external couples”

arctic talon
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Wait wrong image

young pecan
vagrant fox
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Hwat was that

arctic talon
storm jungle
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Elite is a freak

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get him

arctic talon
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No I’m not

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I’m being framed

queen laurel
rose thorn
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Remeber like 2 years ago when people got into an internet wide argument over which game containing incest was better?

rocky gale
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Go into the Game of Thrones community and you'll find people arguing in favour of incest

storm jungle
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LOL

celest willow
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Really it is just a mirror

storm jungle
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it is

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people are just lame

rocky gale
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and they'll explain to you why a certain person is less suited to be King/Queen because they're less incestuous than another option

rose thorn
celest willow
rose thorn
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I might be dyslexic

storm jungle
vagrant fox
storm jungle
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here

rose thorn
rose thorn
arctic talon
celest willow
rose thorn
celest willow
arctic talon
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GW should bring back IG suicide bombers

celest willow
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lack of taste smh

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Literally the hottest primarch

rose thorn
celest willow
rocky gale
arctic talon
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Not again 💀

rose thorn
arctic talon
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Only if they’re child soldiers

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Again

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Then we have a deal

celest willow
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nothing can beat the 10ft golden haired twink of 40k

rose thorn
storm jungle
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hes literally a fucking atlas statue

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LOL

rose thorn
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Stormcast peak spicystormcast

celest willow
storm jungle
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Sang is like a bodybuilder

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lol

rose thorn
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I am devoted to the 4 armed emperor of course

arctic talon
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Anyone who calls sanguinus or stormcasts twinks is sentenced to execution

rocky gale
celest willow
storm jungle
celest willow
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twink can be buff bruh

storm jungle
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if you have muscles you arent a twink

storm jungle
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thats a fucking Twunk

rose thorn
storm jungle
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bro does not know his classifications

celest willow
storm jungle
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its a literal term

celest willow
storm jungle
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get this guy out of my sight

storm jungle
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human is human

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idc

celest willow
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ok buddy

storm jungle
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GETOU-

vagrant fox
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Twink twunk otter know the difference, it could save your life

celest willow
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Twunks fall under twinks

storm jungle
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nope

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completely different

celest willow
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It is like a sub species

rocky gale
celest willow
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Blud what are you on

rose thorn
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Non binary stormcasts peak

valid needle
storm jungle
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also "Otter" is crazy btw what the fuck

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LMAO

queen laurel
# storm jungle

I really thought Jay would be the one who would be carrying something like this

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keeps it around like a bingo card or something

rocky gale
# storm jungle

Oh damn, no one told me they were reintroducing Wolves to the gay community

heady rivet
rose thorn
vagrant fox
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Bull is giving some unfortunate associations in my mind

storm jungle
rocky gale
storm jungle
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I mean it is

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they are literally tiny chibi-people

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you should throw them

valid needle
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Anyways The Lion is the hottest.

heady rivet
storm jungle
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aw hell nah

celest willow
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Anyways twink or not sanginus is like the hottest primarch

rose thorn
celest willow
rose thorn
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The bear and the bull

rocky gale
celest willow
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Bro has the personality of A4 sand paper

heady rivet
vagrant fox
rose thorn
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LMAO

rocky gale
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Men aren't my speciality, so whatever

storm jungle
celest willow
# vagrant fox

For real had like no clue what bro was telling me the whole DLC

heady rivet
queen laurel
rose thorn
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All the men I like are built like….

Nvm I can’t say that

rocky gale
valid needle
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I’d set a new record time, that’s all I’ll say.

storm jungle
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Im not sexist but youtube comments sometimes make me wanna consider the extermination of the male sub-species sorry guys.

vagrant fox
queen laurel
heady rivet
celest willow
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Darktide players magically becoming male after joining this server

storm jungle
# celest willow Crazy work

I was watching a short on a bear attack last night and the top comment was like 11k likes with a guy going "And women say they would rather be trapped in the woods with these" and 600 comments were just nothing but sexist garbage

rose thorn
storm jungle
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the human species MUST EXPLODE

storm jungle
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biden

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idk

rose thorn
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What’s a fu.. fujieo?

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Finishing?

storm jungle
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Its some japanese fetish thing probably

arctic talon
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Women who likes BL stuff

storm jungle
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kill that guy

rose thorn
heady rivet
storm jungle
celest willow
storm jungle
vagrant fox
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Woman what likes big homo men (thins only)

rose thorn
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Lmao

arctic talon
celest willow
rose thorn
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OHHHHH

rocky gale
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A Fujoshi means "Rotten woman" it's a woman who obsesses over gay relationships

arctic talon
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The drawn kind usually

rose thorn
storm jungle
heady rivet
# arctic talon Say gex

BL is Boys Love which includes romance, in all fairness. Not all of it is smut. That being said, the average fujo is a degenerate pervert woman

storm jungle
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"Hm yes i love women being violently disemboweled"

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guro

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💀

celest willow
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Yk we should Combine yuri with yaoi

rose thorn
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Or mlm

celest willow
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Might do something

vagrant fox
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Shit I trawled the reddit nsfw subreddits recently out of boredom and I'm worried now

arctic talon
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lol

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Why

rocky gale
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There's an anime I watched where the main character is a Fujoshi and a harem of guys all fall in love with her, but she doesn't care and keeps trying to make them be gay and date eachother.

vagrant fox
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There's some genuinely insane things there

heady rivet
arctic talon
storm jungle
rose thorn
celest willow
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I should have not brought up twinks damn

arctic talon
# storm jungle >guro

True equality will be reached when the amount of male art and female art is in equal quantity for this

arctic talon
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/hj

storm jungle
rose thorn
vagrant fox
rose thorn
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Wait am I a fu.. fuejijieo cat_soul_stare

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Fueoji

celest willow
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I wana draw but my brain feels like spilled milk

arctic talon
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Idk are you

rose thorn
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I gotta check the professionals

arctic talon
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lol

heady rivet
arctic talon
heady rivet
heady rivet
vagrant fox
storm jungle
rocky gale
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You'll find strange things

heady rivet
vagrant fox
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Idk slap them

heady rivet
rose thorn
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Back, the professionals say it’s a self identity thing

rocky gale
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I don't even wanna talk about some of the things I've seen

arctic talon
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pixiv

rose thorn
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So me and my polyamorous yaoi are safe

arctic talon
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Turn the filter on

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Or don’t

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You’ll prolly regret it if you don’t though

rose thorn
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There is amazing AOS art there lol

vagrant fox
rose thorn
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Let me log in

rocky gale
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I once stumbled across a group of trans people who's fetish was transphobia, it was an experience.

vagrant fox
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Them hoes crazy

tough haven
heady rivet
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Most racist guy I ever met had an Asian gf, then a hapa gf, then Maori gf

rose thorn
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NOOOOO THE AOS ARTIST I LIKE DELETED HUS ACCOUNT

vagrant fox
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My oldest brother isn't exactly a welcoming sort and he's very fond of southeast asian women

rose thorn
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Nvm used the wrong tag

arctic talon
tough haven
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Everyone’s racist till they see foreign women

rose thorn
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I lvoe that I don’t speak this language

vagrant fox
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Extremely racist Icelander I knew who was into haplogroups and shit had a Taiwanese gf it was really funny

heady rivet
arctic talon
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most racist “normal” person in the game
name is literally measurehead

vagrant fox
arctic talon
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What did disco elysium’s writers mean by this

celest willow
# heady rivet

Nah they’re just purifying the other races by making them more white trust me guys

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they are totally not hypocritical

vagrant fox
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Measurehead is very funny, he talks like every pseudo intellectual racist I've talked to on minor chans, krautchan especially

arctic talon
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It’s intentional

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Also he’s never been to the place he espouses the racial supremacy of lol

arctic talon
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Nah he’s a black supremacist

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You meet him after 2 white supremacists though

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💀

heady rivet
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Its insane the NOI founder just vanished btw

plush mason
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ngl its one of my favorite tropes in both sci fi and fantasy when the characters find info that proves the entire world history is a flat out lie and or completely wrong

arctic talon
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💀

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He was the third racist I met in my playthrough, the lucky racist who was going to grant me 3 wishes

plush mason
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huh

plush mason
arctic talon
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Necromunda Pusher can explain more

plush mason
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wait its from a real fringe cult?

arctic talon
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yes

winged jacinth
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/political movement but yeah

plush mason
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wow

plush mason
arctic talon
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Also they murdered Malcom X

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The moment he left them

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And said they weren’t Islam

celest cedar
arctic talon
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And were misleading people

celest cedar
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the video I posted (aside from the finno korean hyperwar) is just actual NOI lore 💀

heady rivet
# plush mason btw who the fuck is this Yakub? i have this gif for years and still have no idea...

The Nation of Islam is a Black supremacist cult that, despite the name, is more like scientology. They believe that the Black race is superior and also used to have magic. They also believe that an evil scientist named Yakub created the other races to create the most evil race of all, Whites. In the process, he created the "Browns" and "Yellows" (Their words). He did this on the Greek island of Patmos.

They also believe Moses was a Black man who tried to civilize Europe, realized they were TOO EVIL, and then blew up a bunch with dynamite.

NOI gained prominence during the civil rights movement, with Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali, etc.

Malcolm X went on hajj to Mecca, was like "Holy shit this isnt Islam" and converted go REAL Islam. Then the NOI assassinated him for speaking out against the leaders having child sex harems. The picture of him looking out the window with his gun is taken during the period of his life when he just distanced himself from them.

Its also extremely patriarchal, homophobic, basically every type of bigoted

plush mason
arctic talon
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Yes

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Also they worked with the American Nazi party

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During the 30s

languid meadow
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Oh shit NOI discussion

heady rivet
rose thorn
arctic talon
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Genuinely insane how the higher ups of the NOI got away with having someone assassinated in broad fucking daylight

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Then again Scientology also has

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So fuck

winged jacinth
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the three letter agencies werent exactly too interested in stopping it

heady rivet
arctic talon
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wtf

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I thought it fell apart

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After the 50s

heady rivet
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It did not

arctic talon
heady rivet
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Because the American Nazi Party and Malcolm X (At this point) had the same end goal. Segregation. Malcolm X didnt want Whites in a Black society and Rockwell didnt want Blacks in a White society

heady rivet
arctic talon
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Crazy how after he stopped being as radical he got shot and killed

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💀

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Like you cannot make this shit up

heady rivet
arctic talon
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Yeah

heady rivet
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Rockwell, for the record, got shot and killed by a Greek guy he was gaslighting into believing he was Aryan until it mindbroke him because the other Nazis thought he was too "swarthy" to be White

arctic talon
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💀

celest cedar
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look at that

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whites and blacks supremacist sitting in the same room together

arctic talon
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They both don’t want to be in the same society

heady rivet
zenith remnant
#

Both want ethnostates. Apparently unaware of the inevitable failure of ethnostates as demonstrated by [gestures vaguely at human history]

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It's like wanting to structure your company in the image of an open Ponzi scheme

languid meadow
plush mason
rose thorn
#

It was from like, the 2010s

honest trellis
jade holly
#

My whole paradigm has shifted

#

I don’t believe this

#

I’ve been living a lie

#

I’m not in America, I’m in the Lower 48 of Alaska

celest cedar
opaque coyote
#

...

#

So we have questions about eating Tyranids

#

But fuck it, it's time to go even further

#

If you eat a genestealer cultist

#

Do you become a genestealer cultist?

#

Like would it have the same effect as a kiss?

#

Since apparently Tyranid cells are hostile, would it be the same for Genestealer Cultists or...

winter pine
#

Seems like one of those many leave it up to the writer or GM things

opaque coyote
#

Honestly thought of like an incident where a GSC was turned into Corpse Starch

arctic talon
#

the kiss is a specific injection

#

of specific cells

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

you'd def get sick though

winter pine
#

I could have sworn there was a bit of lore from Necromunda of fermented corpse starch made from ground up psykers that could get someone both high as shit and open a warp portal

#

So maybe a ground up genestealer could do something similarly insane?

opaque coyote
#

I believe it would depend on the phase tbh

#

Patriarch and early generations definitely

#

Late gens/"basically human" would probably just get you sick

winter pine
#

I'm always in favor of "when it doubt, go with the coolest or wackiest explanation" for lore in a tabletop / video game

winter pine
#

Corpse starch of a genestealer patriarch? bro you are getting fucked up and mutated so bad

opaque coyote
#

Honestly I thought of like you basically becoming braindead because you just connect with the hive mind

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And Psykers already die from that

#

So imagine a regular person basically connecting with them for a second

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So your brain would probably turn into liquid

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And because it's 40k, I will make it literal

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Their brain just fucking leaks out of their ears due to it actually melting from the Hive Mind

winter pine
#

I think a lot of 40k enjoyers forget that GW leaves stuff unexplained as plot hooks for either a wargaming campaign or TTRPG hook

opaque coyote
#

Yeah but also like

We love answering mysteries

#

Even when it's lamer if it's answered

winter pine
#

What's a matter, 40k fan? Afraid you might write your own conclusion for an unexplained mystery?

opaque coyote
#

Also a couple of things shouldn't really be mysteries but that also depends on personal taste

#

Like c'mon just have Lorgar stop aura farming already

#

Let him actually do something Jesus christ

#

He only just stopped meditating and even then it is a rumor

winter pine
#

I wish I could remember which alternate heresy it was someone drew fanart of Lorgar burning Erebus in an eternal torch was because it was so kino

opaque coyote
#

Bro is fucking Jiren with how much of nothing he did in-between 30k and 40k

#

Bald too

#

At least Lorgar looks cool

dapper gyro
#

Bald discrimination, how dare you.

opaque coyote
#

Gonna be crucified for this but I genuinely think his design is actually pretty good

winter pine
#

Bald in Warhammer 30k / 40k = evil

dapper gyro
#

Vulkan...

opaque coyote
#

You see

#

Eldar child

#

Jk

#

Still bad but in the same way the rest of the Imperium is

dapper gyro
#

Mercy to the enemy of the imperium?

winter pine
#

Vulkan when he sees Yvraine go to Guilliman's palace on Terra be like:

dapper gyro
#

"I feel the urge to burn something"

winter pine
#

Do NOT ask the human supremist Primarch or Astartes what species his gf is, worst mistake of my life

dapper gyro
#

Nor the Custodes.

winter pine
dapper gyro
#

Well, who ever created the eldar shouldn't have made them so attractive to to human standard.

opaque coyote
#

But ig the old ones are like

#

"okay yeah so hot got it"

fervent geode
fervent geode
fervent geode
jade holly
#

Are Iron Warriors the most loaned out chaos marines in 40k?

#

Among the other chaos factions

arctic talon
#

no

vagrant fox
#

Shortass day at work but I don't want to go, Lai Bai save me please

vagrant fox
#

I can confirm that Li Bai is the guy to worship

urban spire
#

imagine being capable of working

sour hornet
#

Can human psykers use eldar staves and such? Or is it too much of a difference

urban spire
#

humans can learn to use eldar stuff

vagrant fox
#

There's examples of humans using eldar equipment with no problems so I don't see why not

celest dome
#

I don't think k we have examples of Psyker using Eldar force stuff, but there isn't any known reason it couldn't work

#

Though might be more tricky

vagrant fox
#

I figure it might not work as well but we have that one inquisitor with a better shuriken pistol than any eldar ever or what it was

daring creek
#

Gandalf the grey and gandalf the white

#

And monty python and the holygrails black knight

vagrant fox
#

Do the kids know ultimate showdown

daring creek
#

We should

#

If not

#

Something is deeply wrong

vagrant fox
#

You're kids?

celest cedar
plush mason
#

huh

#

also isnt hyperborea just fucking Ireland?

rocky gale
#

That'd Hibernia

crisp heath
#

I still see copium about female custodes and i found this gem

shadow plover
#

I saw a glimpse of that image earlier today but the TL autorefreshed and I didn't get to see any of it but now I'm happy that I got to read it

storm jungle
#

these people genuinely do NOTHING but make whiny posts

celest dome
#

So I recognize Grumz, and I guess that next to it is (Former-)Arch(Warhammer), but who are the other 2 ?

crisp heath
crisp heath
#

Literally just reskinned grifters

celest dome
#

fair

#

Better to not make them more noteworthy

storm jungle
plush mason
storm jungle
plush mason
#

they really dont

crisp heath
#

If I was hit with that and somehow lived I would simply never get up again

#

I'd just lay down and not move ever

plush mason
#

idk it looks like the guy's knee hit the wall

#

which is a lot better for Peacemaker than it hitting his face

misty vector
#

its ok he's a tough guy

misty vector
#

knee to the jaw is brutal though

vagrant fox
#

I could tank it
Does anyone know if the new helldiver bond is bad yet

raven stone
#

This...actually looks like it might not be slop

misty vector
#

c4 and mine grenade seem cool but idc about stealth stuff

rocky gale
#

He literally says in the interview that a hard part of the job was in getting past all the memes and exploring what the Krieg actually were

#

So there might be hope

rose thorn
#

“Not enough shovels, they made krieg woke”

#

If they make gsc vs krieg I might read it

raven stone
raven stone
rose thorn
#

We can use krieg surprisingly this edition

raven stone
#

Yep

rose thorn
#

Idk if it’s very goood

#

But

raven stone
#

Hence the thought.

Through the Krieg HQ choice you even steal a Commissar (that normally you won't have access to) if I am not mistaken

rose thorn
#

Yeah we get commissars I believe now too which is weird

raven stone
#

I mean, GS kiss is kinda a catch all explanation ...

rose thorn
#

Yeah but commissars come from the school pregenium (I spelt it wrong) so the only reason that makes sense is that we just killed the commissar and took his clothes

#

So warcrimes

raven stone
#

Or Commissar got GS kissed during line of duty

rose thorn
#

But they wouldn’t mutate to be a 4th generation

#

It’s not how that works

raven stone
#

Iirc as long as you have been "kissed" or "infected", you will auto-tune to hive mind

#

So you can be a normal human

raven stone
#

Then "kiss-converted" to a 4th gen operative in essence

near wasp
#

What timeline have I entered

#

This chat excited for dkok

rose thorn
#

Im excited for dkok fans to be mad

raven stone
storm jungle
#

"went"

celest dome
#

I'm fairly assuming he wasn't crazy as a baby

rose thorn
#

When you are under the kiss, you don’t auto tune into the hive mind really. Your baiscally told “have kids have kids have kids” and your reproductive cells are reprogrammed to make your child gsc

near wasp
#

Fkkkkkk

near wasp
#

I just spilled monster all over my phone

rose thorn
#

It’s one of the reasons you don’t see 100% humans on tabletop

celest dome
#

Doesn't it boost your parental instinct too ?

rose thorn
#

That too

rose thorn
celest dome
#

The "Kissed" also don't appear cause they'd be somewhat redundant, I do think that if FS did pick GSC, they'd explore those people more due to needing unwitting civilian as the lower rungs

rose thorn
#

It says suppress their consciousness

raven stone
#

But yea back to the point...it feels like GW is trying to update the lore just a little so it isn't impossible for normal humans to fall under Cults

#

Just very rare

rose thorn
#

Fair

#

Humans aren’t really apart of the cult, they do join the rebellion obviously lol

storm jungle
raven stone
#

We were discussing as to whether infected humans are immediately under full cult control per se

#

Given how Brood Brothers can now take Commissars

celest dome
#

Tbh, from the moment their DNA is changed by the kiss, they're no more normal human

storm jungle
#

I read a short the other day where the Patriarch does a straightup tongue-throat of some normal human farmer and he instantly turns

#

so ummm

rose thorn
#

Also gsc are heavily dependent on the literal cult part

storm jungle
near wasp
#

Hot

storm jungle
#

LITERALLY BTW

#

IM NOT KIDDING

raven stone
#

🤣

tough haven
rose thorn
#

Yeah

storm jungle
#

context, this agri worlder protag gets caught in this plot by at first "rescuing" a child a lady passes her which you see instantly is a GSC baby.
He raises it a bit for 2 days before having to escape his home, its revealed at the end that its a Magus-to-be because she literally wrenches his gun out of his hand as a baby still and lets the other GSC gangbeatdown him and capture him

storm jungle
#

that compliment was so smooth even im shellshocked

raven stone
rose thorn
# storm jungle

Is thsi why gsc haters think gsc is like an alien zombie thing lol

raven stone
#

(A mostly IoM fan criticising IoM)

storm jungle
heady rivet
storm jungle
heady rivet
rose thorn
#

Adrian please write another gsc book Adrian Tchaikovsky

raven stone
rose thorn
#

Adrian tchaikovsky do you hear me

storm jungle
#

its like imperial zealotry but pre-installed lol

raven stone
#

But yea.
GSC infected Death Korps is the funnies.

Twice as funny if it was Cult of the Four Armed Emperor, since both are digging themed

rose thorn
#

People get really bad when you talk about gsc death korp

storm jungle
#

LOL

raven stone
#

Oh good, I found the army to piss off right wing nut jobs

rose thorn
#

Lmao

raven stone
#

And it is thematically fitting no less!

rose thorn
#

I’ll make my krieg kt into gsc once brood guard get rules

jolly summit
#

if the Imperial Fists have rogal dorn's hand, could they not simply regrow their primarch from the hand

celest dome
#

That would require it still having DNA material, and cloning has issues in 40k

rose thorn
#

Like every legion has tried it and failed

#

It requires OG’s soul too

#

Who’s the guys trying to clone Horus again?

raven stone
#

Also complicated by...
(A) Primarchs being human-shaped Demon Princes of sorts
(B) Imperium hates clone tech.

Fabius Bile trying to clone Horus

fervent geode
#

Fabius Bile

rose thorn
#

Oh yeha creations

fervent geode
#

The clone of Horus may have been imperfect too

#

It was a little off i recall

rose thorn
#

They all died horrible deaths lmao

#

Especially because there is no soul of horus

fervent geode
#

Cloning is implied to do something bad due to the unnaturalness

#

Look at the Afriel Strain

dapper gyro
#

Warp energy is needed to create primarch. The warp energy must be pure, which is hard to obtain with how rampaging chaos is.

rose thorn
#

You know what faction has had successful cloning?

fervent geode
#

A warp anomaly related to true soulessness imo

#

Votann

rose thorn
celest dome
rose thorn
#

GSC!!!

fervent geode
#

But LoV are based so forget about it

celest dome
#

With Old One Eye

raven stone
fervent geode
#

Oh yeah

rose thorn
#

Twisted helix clones their patriarch

celest dome
#

LoV is closer to Vat grown stuff than clones

fervent geode
celest dome
#

Esher is actually the closest to semi-successful cloning faction iirc

#

Like outright cloning and stuff

rose thorn
#

Oh yeh

rose thorn
raven stone
#

Though IIRC from the Eisenhorn novels, IoM does also have tech to clone body parts

rose thorn
#

Besides in killteams

#

It doenst correlate with any unit lmao

raven stone
#

Ohhhh kill team...yea that one is a toughie

#

Thought you meant big 40k

rose thorn
#

I mean the KT has no rules conversion in 40K, so I call them brood gaurd since that’s what the KT calls themselves in the rules lol

#

More nightlords on warcom

dapper gyro
#

Cloning body part is nothing too crazy.

#

Creating sentient beings using clone tech is where it gets sloppy.

celest dome
#

What would be the difference between vatgrowing body parts and cloning them tbh

storm jungle
#

same outcome different process

dapper gyro
#

Cloning is a 1:1 copy, or as close as the original can get. Vat grow is using a mixture of necessary ingredients, the result varies.

#

More like the same process, similar goal, but different outcomes.

raven stone
#

An...interesting...thing from Dark Heresy alpha

celest dome
#

I wouldn't call it unfair

jolly summit
#

Ogryn wins once again

storm jungle
plush mason
storm jungle
#

the thicc female model came later

plush mason
#

every Magus i see in media is a women so wasnt sure

storm jungle
#

yeah because shes more popular

#

for obvious reasons lmao

plush mason
#

ofc

storm jungle
#

GSC got no single-sex roles

celest dome
#

Aberant 👉 👈

raven stone
storm jungle
#

they are literally mutated gorillas so like lmao

celest dome
#

No no no, meaning I want Aberant lady

storm jungle
#

bro....

celest dome
near wasp
#

Oooo dark heresey

#

Do we know if it'll be coop or not yet

tough haven
#

I find it Batshit insane that there’s no guard at launch in DOW4

#

I think lion and the dark angels ate them

#

Or maybe marines finally just killed them to take operational control of kronus

raven stone
#

I was about to make a Fallen joke but remembered Lion isn't into that

near wasp
#

Its ok hell fall for them eventually

raven stone
#

On other news

#

GW making more HH blackbook lore public stuff now

heady rivet
tough haven
#

I know

raven stone
#

Thramas crusade lore drop/dump

tough haven
#

Dow 1 is the only one I played

#

2 dlcs before guard

heady rivet
daring creek
plush mason
languid meadow
#

Wellll iirc the trailers say they return to kronus which implies they haven't

#

Unless I missed something else

plush mason
#

they controlled it by a small force aided by proxy PDF and serfs i think

#

so their "return" is the return of a major force

#

or they might have given control up to local/imperial forces at some point

languid meadow
#

We'll see, imo I don't think anyone really won dark crusade, every but the necrons leaves the planet when defeated

#

They get wiped out completely

plush mason
#

canoncially the blood ravens win

#

per both soulstorm and DOW2

languid meadow
#

When it comes to dawn of war games I'm not gonna take anything they say as gospel

#

Since they weren't really even "canon" in the same sense, the same way space marine 1 was

#

DoW4 will change that go course but idk if they'll keep everything

plush mason
#

fair, btw is it confirmed if the warboss in DOW4 is Goreguts?

plush mason
#

this fucker is old as shit huh

languid meadow
#

He ork

plush mason
#

and he really doesnt like the blood ravens

languid meadow
#

Generational hater

queen laurel
plush mason
#

right

plush mason
# queen laurel

omg he looks so good, back to his real self after the whatever that was in 3

queen laurel
#

His design in dawn of war 3 is unique

plush mason
#

it is but he just looked like some hunchback mekboy

#

ofc he wasnt the warboss at the start of dow3 iirc so it makes sense he got a downgrade

queen laurel
plush mason
#

fair

queen laurel
#

like this if he's had something different, his claw is both a grappling hook a flail and a bashing instrument that's cool

raven stone
#

That arm looks a bit too big, but otherwise nice design

plush mason
#

yeah the problem was how he moved

#

used the claw as a third leg

near wasp
#

Bros topheavy

queen laurel
raven stone
#

An Ork that skipped leg day

near wasp
#

If he trips he's never getting up

queen laurel
#

and he can swing it like a flail he's an ork

#

they are totally the type of race to do something like that

plush mason
#

the one thing that need to change was his other arm imo, give him the gun arm and it would have been perfect

queen laurel
#

Like this was fun because it was a unique take for him

#

that's why i'm just a bit disappointed on his dawn of war 4 design

#

too damn basic

plush mason
#

fair

#

maybe his claw still has the flail feature

#

will have to see in the actual gameplay

crisp heath
#

Smh

#

Missus unlocked the illiterate title

#

4_SMH shake my head

near wasp
#

Missus might be outsmarted by an orange cat

tough haven
# queen laurel

What fucking clan is gorgutz, they can’t ever make up their mind

#

I’d put money on bad moons by design

#

But they change it every time

queen laurel
#

he switches but currently he's a bad moon

honest trellis
#

DOW4 deleted all the unique designs anyway

near wasp
#

Idk why I never thought they could switch clans

misty vector
# queen laurel

he is like the prettiest girl at the ball, all the clans want him

jade holly
near wasp
#

The goffs are waagg purists

plush mason
#

so bro just bounces around till he find a clan and or wagg to take him in or take over

daring creek
#

And I'm kinda having it hard right now and trying to have mostly positive feelings. Even though its kinda hard to feel anything majorly positive

#

Just need to wait

#

aaaaannnd wait.

crisp heath
#

waiting for whar

daring creek
#

For side effects to go away

#

Ill be speaking w my psych soon

crisp heath
#

oo

last stone
vagrant fox
#

why does the yankee get a therapist but me, a noble european, doesn't

near wasp
#

Because we need therapy for all the Bs we put up with

plush mason
#

dont worry therapy in the US is little removed from your local bartender in both function and effectiveness

near wasp
#

Also that

#

Liquors cheaper than therpy

plush mason
#

and one can argue the bartender has a higher success rate

near wasp
#

Fax

dapper gyro
#

Success in both ways.

#

Either to help the person or to help the business.

vagrant fox
#

it's time

storm jungle
#

Ian the Goatian