#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
languid meadow
I do want an AoS tide game
limpid granite
i didnt say age of sigmar was bad
languid meadow
because it'll get more people into AoS like it did fantasy
limpid granite
but i have 0 clue what the story is other than the world being reborn
storm jungle
but i have 0 clue what the story is other than the world being reborn
its basically WHF but people die and explode even more
limpid granite
i know there are stormcast eternal
outer wave
AoS is like a slightly more magical and noble bright version of WHF
storm jungle
Well
its "noblebright" on the surface
its really fucking awful for the most part lmao
celest dome
but i have 0 clue what the story is other than the world being reborn
Then why do you seem against TW AoS 
limpid granite
Then why do you seem against TW AoS <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
im not
outer wave
its really fucking awful for the most part lmao
Yeah its not that much more noble bright, but its slightly more so than your average Warhammer franchise
celest dome
It is more Noblebright than 40k, but so was WFB
limpid granite
but i was saying that a age of sigmar tide game would sooner be developed than an age of sigmar total war
languid meadow
I just dont think there's enough units for each faction to make Total War AOS
storm jungle
Yeah its not that much more noble bright, but its slightly more so than your ave...
tbh WHF and AOS have always been like that
because theres actual good guys
and uhhh no nazi faction
so no fascists
fucking lucky bastards
lmao
limpid granite
since age of sigmar doesnt have that grand scale like fantasy
storm jungle
I mean, it does?
celest dome
it really does
storm jungle
where did you get that from
celest dome
Hell even bigger scale than fantasy 💀
outer wave
^
limpid granite
it could also be me having 0 knowledge on it
outer wave
It has multiple realities involved IIRC based on the realms of magic from WHF
outer wave
Over 7 realms.....
storm jungle
only way between them is through realmgates which are like huge strategically important spots
wary fulcrum
Whole massive armies protect each one
celest dome
8 great realms, an interweb, and many smaller realms
storm jungle
Yeah its like a constant gamble lol
I wasnt huge on the realm-hopping shit at first but once i read up on it its really cool
wary fulcrum
They should have turned the Gnarlwood into a realm gate, but they decided to kill their best setting instead
languid meadow
Arx Terminus my beloved
outer wave
I wasnt huge on the realm-hopping shit at first but once i read up on it its rea...
Haven't read up on it, but it really sounds MtG, which makes me go "Ehhh not a fan"
celest dome
I wasnt huge on the realm-hopping shit at first but once i read up on it its rea...
WOuld be real cool if TW AoS had the 8 realm as separate but visible, and the Realm gates accessing different spot of a separate map that enable you to cross from one to another
storm jungle
Haven't read up on it, but it really sounds MtG, which makes me go "Ehhh not a f...
Havent read up on it
Forms opinion
https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-mad-caseoh-angry-caseoh-banned-get-out-go-away-gif-8419228579553039351
outer wave
I KNOW I KNOW
storm jungle
GETOU-
celest dome
Knowing doesn't make it better
outer wave
Thats why I lead up with tha--AHHHHHHH
celest dome
It make it worse
Also, while I do think that VT3, if it is to happen should be in AoS
I do not want it
outer wave
VT2 having a third game could be a bit much, but it would be kinda cool to watch
Or play
I dunno why I said watch
languid meadow
I do think if we get an AoS tide game it should be with premade characters
since it fits way better with fantasy and aos than 40k
celest dome
Death or Destruction being the tide factions in AoS
outer wave
100%
languid meadow
It'll prob be skaven and choas again
outer wave
Ogortide....
languid meadow
since beastmen are uber fucked in AoS if they were gonna add a destruction faction ogres would be it
gnoblar hordes with ogre specials/elites
celest dome
Skaven have already gotten 2 games, why not see other tide factions 
limpid granite
It'll prob be skaven and choas again
Inb4 vampire counts
languid meadow
I don't think we'll fight undead imo
celest dome
Hedge. I Call on you 
languid meadow
but maybe that's just me hoping we get an undead character
a bonereaper or something
wary fulcrum
Being chaos in an AoS VT would be cool
Instead of veteran or psyker you have Khorne or Tzeentch
languid meadow
a stormcast character that is a redeemed chaos champion
celest dome
The only way I would see a tide game where you play as a Chaos warrior would be against Lizardmen
wary fulcrum
Skills are different mutations
wary fulcrum
The only way I would see a tide game where you play as a Chaos warrior would be ...
But they’re the enemy of everyone
Including chaos
celest dome
But they don't act as Tide compared to Chaos warriors
limpid granite
a stormcast character that is a redeemed chaos champion
Is unc cooking?
outer wave
Skinks could be the tide
celest dome
Skink as the horde, Saurus as the bigger target + elites
limpid granite
unless you want a tide of sauruses
Saurian dark elf realm of man unit and someone else?
languid meadow
Is unc cooking?
but yeah if we ever got a tide game with a playable stormcast I would want this as it
it would be interesting and show one of the cooler things about stormcasts and AoS
wary fulcrum
Do it Warcry style
Steelhelms and Fusiliers as the tide
Stormcast as the boss’
There’s an Iron Golems story where they do a trade with Hashut only to find a knight Questor trapped in the cellar after wiping out the whole fort
celest dome
Skink -> Skaven Slaves
Skink Brave -> Clanrat
Saurus -> Stormvermin
Eternal Guard -> Chaos Warrior
...
limpid granite
I still think vampire counts would work the best as an enemy for a horde game whilst not rethreading nurgle
Or maybe khorne for the horde enemy
celest dome
Dreadfleet 
Vampire Count + Vampire Coast + Undead Skaven + Tomb King + Chaos Dwarf mercenaries
wary fulcrum
Any orcs would do, could even tie then together
Kruleboyz has the trappers scamper style but toxins poison hits, Iron Jaw bruiser for the mutant or the ogryns
Could even take from L4D2 and use gobbos as the rodeo head stabber guy
celest dome
Dilara doubting Dreadtide, just lacking imagination on her part 🚬
Hedda Bardinsdottir being playable would be awesome
rose thorn
a stormcast character that is a redeemed chaos champion
Which one lmao
We have like 3
wary fulcrum
We have like 3
Whole army of them, but a couple named
rocky gale
The First Marshal's Executioner is now built as well
rose thorn
The First Marshal's Executioner is now built as well
Seeing it like this I can pretend to understand why ppl like it
rose thorn
It’s where they dumped him now
I thoguht he was apart of the hollowed knights?
wary fulcrum
I thoguht he was apart of the hollowed knights?
I think he’s painted that way, but the storm cast who follow him where all redeemed
rose thorn
OHHH okay
rose thorn
I think he’s painted that way, but the storm cast who follow him where all redee...
I got redeemed confused with reclaimed lmao
That’s fun
languid meadow
Which one lmao
no just saying for a tide character
daring creek
rose thorn
Ohhhh
winter pine
rose thorn
I hate that that the iPhone blurs your background images it look like shit
near wasp
What in gods name
storm jungle
Huron Freakheart my goat
jade holly
Damn, I kinda want whatever that IW stuff is gonna be
But if it’s not limited time I shouldn’t rush
But man what a time to join 40K minis lmao new Necron stuff and a limited time box of a batch of destroyers and now this?
near wasp
You know it's bad when your lizard gf has better teeth than you
pale mist
How do tech priests find gf's in the forge?
crystal forum
https://fixupx.com/WH40kbestof/status/2012515499163222222?s=20
both for me
wary fulcrum
Lusty Taurelian Maid
celest dome
90% certain that image is some AI stuff
near wasp
That imagine is 200% ai
wintry cloud
How do tech priests find gf's in the forge?
Delete this fr
outer wave
That imagine is 200% ai
Its always that glistening effect that they got going that gives it away
rocky gale
and now The First Marshal's Seer
outer wave
90% certain that image is some AI stuff
The text just above the "FAKE PROFILE" is just chicken scratch, so yeah it is
opaque coyote
Honestly the best fucking ad they've ever made
And it isn't even a sponsor for a car insurance company
sacred bluff
the hardback version of the scouring has these neat little illustrations throughout the book
crystal forum
https://youtu.be/oZlummy-umA?si=YDpcj0gFL74lK4EH
i thought that was clancy brown for a second
the guy who voices mister crabs
spare osprey
Abominable Intelligence comes to replace the soul... or... steal a lot of water at least.
winter pine
valid needle
crystal forum
Ai slop
im legit at the point where i cant even tell if it's AI anymore
it really looks AI but how could AI write the words that clearly and it usually doesn't get faction clothes like the admech clothes right
shadow plover
It has gotten better with letters for a good while now
it still has a very clear style and visible artefacts
opaque coyote
i thought that was clancy brown for a second
Nope
But apparently John Dimaggio AKA VA for Jake the Dog
Voices Atriox
He also has my second favorite joker voice so that's another +1 from me
winged silo
I don't like how Robust Gorilla Scan made his Ultramarines have significantly more members than other chapters.
hollow lantern
GW when they write 897 successor chapters just to write first foundings like they have legion numbers anyway
winged silo
https://tenor.com/view/matpat-horse-gif-16177598081625758078
Kroot activity
tough haven
Anyone got any art of a kommando snipa boy?
winged silo
Anyone got any art of a kommando snipa boy?
No
tough haven
Damn
winged silo
I don't know what I expected when I joined this server, I did not expect The Imperial Inquisition.
tough haven
No one ever does
winged silo
Good job I suppose
So, how would I design an Imperial Psyker who fell to the T'au? Considering the T'au are all blanks, how would I draw their staff?
crystal forum
I don't like how Robust Gorilla Scan made his Ultramarines have significantly mo...
i think we all know deep down that the idea of the second founding was just a retroactive attempt to explain why there's chapters instead of just 18 legions in 40k
don't know why GW bothered to impose number limits on chapters though
tough haven
So, how would I design an Imperial Psyker who fell to the T'au? Considering the ...
Read the farsight books
theres a human psyker in his retinue
winged silo
theres a human psyker in his retinue
Oh fr?
tough haven
is even daemon possessed
hollow lantern
don't know why GW bothered to impose number limits on chapters though
So they can figure out interesting ways to get around the number limit like having a back up chapter for the wounded or simply ignoring the limit ig
tough haven
I think her name is Vykat?
crystal forum
So, how would I design an Imperial Psyker who fell to the T'au? Considering the ...
t'au aren't blanks where did you get that idea
tough haven
Yeah they just have a very low presence in the warp
its like a night light compared to a standard light bulb
its still got some light, just not much
winged silo
I'm not typing out "low Warp presence" every time I need to talk about the T'au.
celest dome
i think we all know deep down that the idea of the second founding was just a re...
Tbf, wasn't there already the many chapter before the clear Legion stuff ?
crystal forum
blanks are a specific thing in the setting
tough haven
and use that as inspo
winged silo
and use that as inspo
Alright.
winged silo
blanks are a specific thing in the setting
I know this.
crystal forum
Tbf, wasn't there already the many chapter before the clear Legion stuff ?
as far as i know yeah right? i wasn't around for long but im pretty sure legions came around because of HH
celest dome
t'au aren't blanks where did you get that idea
The Tau are less Psychic sensitive, which in theory does make them small/latent blanks, the same way one could consider all Eldars to be small/latent Psyker.
crystal forum
blanks would be anti warp no?
arctic talon
i think we all know deep down that the idea of the second founding was just a re...
Chapters existed before Legions
celest dome
Not necessarily
arctic talon
in terms of like
crystal forum
Chapters existed before Legions
that's what im saying
arctic talon
order GW made them
celest dome
It's less Warp sensitive, and the deeper blanks are repelling the Warp
crystal forum
chapters came first and GW created the second founding after doing HH lore
i think
celest dome
(hence why I disagree completely with the notion of Blanks being soulless)
hollow lantern
order GW made them
Crimson Fists my beloved
celest dome
Which one was the cursed founding ?
hollow lantern
13th iirc
crystal forum
demons still see t'au easily dont they
arctic talon
chapters came first and GW created the second founding after doing HH lore
Second founding existed already lore wise
celest dome
demons still see t'au easily dont they
Yes
crystal forum
then they aren't blanks
celest dome
Blanks have levels
tough haven
demons still see t'au easily dont they
Not easily, but yeah they can still see them
Hell
celest dome
Same as Psykers
winged silo
they're just low soul juice
Juice em' for ectoplasma.
tough haven
A water caste gets possessed by touching a salvaged gellar field device
crystal forum
i don't think just being warp dulled makes you a blank
arctic talon
just low juice
being warp dulled doesn't make you a blank correct
it just means your soul isn't as juicy and shiny
you are not a blank because you soul does not actively repel the warp
crystal forum
Second founding existed already lore wise
well whatever what i'm trying to say is that the lore was not done in a chronological way which is why it kinda has some plot holes
valid needle
Which one was the cursed founding ?
26th iirc
celest dome
There are people that are just slightly more Warp sensitive, those aren't called True Psyker, same apply for blanks
hollow lantern
Is 13th dark founding then?
celest dome
Didn't know there were so many founding
celest dome
What about it?
All the chapters of it were just weird
valid needle
Cursed founding?
Someone asked what founding cursed founding was
arctic talon
cursed founding is 21st
fervent geode
The 21st Founding was the cursed one
crystal forum
oh also we always compare to humanity as the baseline but humans are actually more warp sensitive than other species which makes humanity the outlier here afaik
celest dome
One basically became the Legion of the Damned, another just has Bone blades growing out of their limbs
winged silo
Someone asked what founding cursed founding was
Ok
celest dome
It's a whole deal
arctic talon
the reason why its cursed is because the mechanicus fucked with their geneseed
fervent geode
There were 26 foundings pre Ultima
arctic talon
to try and like
redo them
and fix shit
or upgrade them
It led to some things you could consider a success
fervent geode
One basically became the Legion of the Damned, another just has Bone blades grow...
Fire Hawks and Black Dragons
winged silo
One basically became the Legion of the Damned, another just has Bone blades grow...
BLACK DRAGONS MENTIONED RAAAAGH! THEY'RE MY FAVORITE CHAPTER RAAAAGH!
arctic talon
and other things you'd consider an absolute failure lmao
crystal forum
funny thing is there's so many chapters with unexplained foundings that it doesnt even matter how many there are
valid needle
and other things you'd consider an absolute failure lmao
Lame-nters
fervent geode
and other things you'd consider an absolute failure lmao
And also for the Dark Eldar to capture some for a bone plague to be developed
arctic talon
GW can also retroactively add more
I do think its inevitable GW is going to increase chapter size
at some point lol
crystal forum
exactly so the number is meaningless
valid needle
I do think its inevitable GW is going to increase chapter size
They already have tbh
fervent geode
UM 11th Company and all
celest dome
Do you think they'll try to give it a lore reason or just make it retroactive ?
arctic talon
Considering GW already soft rewrote it in 5e
arctic talon
Do you think they'll try to give it a lore reason or just make it retroactive ?
"guilliman said so"
easy lore reason
doesn't effect existing lore
celest dome
Simple as that I guess
valid needle
It went from 1000 max to 1000 but oh command don’t count to 1000 plus maybe 200 reserve
arctic talon
Yeah
fervent geode
Do you think they'll try to give it a lore reason or just make it retroactive ?
The Imperium is having a need for larger chapters due to the horrendous losses after the Psychic Awakening
crystal forum
It went from 1000 max to 1000 but oh command don’t count to 1000 plus maybe 200 ...
then there's dark angels
fervent geode
And the 1000 marines count doesnt include specialists like Librarians and Techmarines
arctic talon
GW when they write 897 successor chapters just to write first foundings like the...
I want more lore on the Gore golems™
crystal forum
i do like how dark angels is explained to be loopholing their way around the size rules
arctic talon
They're some random fucking chapter GW cooked up
for a Crusade book
and that name is so goddamn funny
hollow lantern
Its very uh
crystal forum
gore golems is a fire ass chapter name
hollow lantern
Khornate lol
arctic talon
they have a dude who's a deathwatch watchmaster
rocky gale
Hey Elite, you were wrong about the new Skitarii, their base isn't 40mm
rocky gale
28.5mm
crystal forum
wolf is wrong let's kill him
rocky gale
Ye
arctic talon
interesting marshal is on a 32
and they're on 28.5's
bcs Heresy doesn't do different base sizes for officers(normally)
crystal forum
HH?
crystal forum
like some named characters have bigger bases
shadow plover
and most named characters
hollow lantern
bcs Heresy doesn't do different base sizes for officers(normally)
Hey, how do Corsairs work? Are they just attached to CWE?
hollow lantern
Harlies, basically
arctic talon
yeah
hollow lantern
Alright, thanks
arctic talon
they work exactly like the FW ones did
which is to say they get shoved into your army
winged silo
like their mega tank
The Custodes got a super heavy tank?
crystal forum
just a plastic refresh
hollow lantern
which is to say they get shoved into your army
Gotcha, thank you
winged silo
just a plastic refresh
Ahh.
crystal forum
revealed yesterday
crystal forum
is it not fellblade size
arctic talon
it is
crystal forum
it looked like it
crystal forum
very small guns for how big they are
shadow plover
that's not a predator..
arctic talon
thats a repulsor executioner
winged silo
When I get into 40K, I either wanna play Adeptus Mechanicus or Adeptus Custodes.
arctic talon
which is around land raider sized lol
winged silo
I'm talking about tabletop, as I already read the lore and play the games.
crystal forum
which is around land raider sized lol
oh
shadow plover
crystal forum
ye there's a rhino
arctic talon
ignore the fact someone converted it to be tracked
crystal forum
lil whirlwind
arctic talon
or aknowledge it
crystal forum
based
arctic talon
but its a fat fuck
shadow plover
predator and rhino are same chassis
crystal forum
ye ik im not that dumb
shadow plover
arctic talon
I think them being a lil goofy is cute
shadow plover
it's an armoured personel carrier not a tank
crystal forum
and they got agrav before it was cool
celest dome
What not overcompensating does to someone 🚬
hollow lantern
I like custodes tanks tbh
winged silo
I think I'll just play Mechanicus. I'm not terribly worried about the cost of units since I'm getting my hands on a 3D printer.
hollow lantern
Very retrofuturistic
crystal forum
im happy about fellblade refresh even though it will still be way too expensive for me
more people using it means rules will be adjusted
i need to finish the one i started printing
winged silo
i need to finish the one i started printing
What are you printing?
crystal forum
fellblade
crystal forum
i was printing it when eternal was still here
it was that long ago
who are these guys anyways
shadow plover
I waited for a plastic Glaive for 5 years, got the Fellblade after waiting 2 and after finishing it in a 3 week squeeze they reveal the plastic Glaive
winged silo
https://spikeybits.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Screenshot_838.png
Those wings look baller. Mod them a little and use them for kitbashed Ptexarii.
crystal forum
nerd
arctic talon
who are these guys anyways
jump pack custodes
crystal forum
i was gonna say discount blood angels
winged silo
Custodes get wings, but Sang Guard don't
Dante doesn't either.
celest dome
Those wings look baller. Mod them a little and use them for kitbashed Ptexarii.
Might look slightly bulky on it
winged silo
Might look slightly bulky on it
Fair enough, but it's still look cool as hell.
celest dome
Dante doesn't either.
Tbf, did Dante ever have wings ?
winged silo
He deserves them though.
crystal forum
Might look slightly bulky on it
old FW painters really did stuff less shiny
i think i like the old way
arctic talon
the old FW painters did a really grungy custodes scheme
for the initial resin wave
then they started going shinier
lol
with each subsequent Custodes wave
crystal forum
i like gritty HH
crystal forum
it's supposed to be the grungier setting
arctic talon
which is hilarious
I think having bright colorful things in 40k is fun
and 30k
its kind of part of the charm
celest dome
it's supposed to be the grungier setting
Nah, just the more SM Slop-ier setting
winged silo
And besides, those Custodes wings would look good on a Ptexarii if you make them apart of a battle maniple under the control of a particularly aristocratic Tech-Priest.
crystal forum
Nah, just the more SM Slop-ier setting <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
ye and more grimslop
just looks like 40k now
arctic talon
tbf
its always looked like 40k
aside from the 1e stuff
like
original 1e stuff
mid to late 1e had similar to 40k coloring
just different technique
winged silo
When I'm in a complaining competition and my opponent is a 40k fan:
crystal forum
now FW is emulating eavy metal
arent they all using the same artists now
shadow plover
I mean there is no FW any longer
crystal forum
since FW barely exists on its own
celest dome
Have you lot seen the new golden goose of the chuds since TC tried to deny them ?
crystal forum
what happen
arctic talon
or something
celest dome
Yes
arctic talon
I fucking knew it
celest dome
It's Knoflkt
arctic talon
goddamit
crystal forum
where it kept going
celest dome
A WW2 game where it kept going and weird science was introduced
crystal forum
yup that was an easy guess
arctic talon
yeah
British got robots
American and Soviets got super soldiers
Nazis have zombies and mutants
celest dome
Russia has Ghouls, and Werebears
crystal forum
seems a bit derivative from how you explain it
arctic talon
I'm oversimplifying a bit
crystal forum
i'll need to check
celest dome
Nazi have Vamps and werewolf
celest dome
Tbh not really
winged silo
How long is a turn of 40k in lore? Because I know DnD turns are 6 seconds, how long is a 40k turn?
arctic talon
is it racist or smth
no
arctic talon
How long is a turn of 40k in lore? Because I know DnD turns are 6 seconds, how l...
however long it needs to be for the narrative
jokes aside 40k doesn't have that
winged silo
however long it needs to be for the narrative
Aight.
arctic talon
like how Pathfinder/Drawsteel/DnD have 6 second turns
winged silo
Ahh, okay.
arctic talon
and Cyberpunk Red's turns are 30 seconds each
anyways I like how the US looks in Konflikt
surreal nest
I dont
winged silo
That's neat I suppose.
crystal forum
40k isn't a role playing game so turn time doesn't really matter i guess
celest dome
It does have role playing games though 
crystal forum
i meant normal tabletop
crystal forum
you matter
hollow lantern
anyways I like how the US looks in Konflikt
I love giving these bastards a flamethrower
arctic talon
none of FFG's TTRPGs give how long a turn is
in universe
I've never played Konflikt
just looked at it lol
hollow lantern
Ive played about as much K47 as BA tbh
crystal forum
why must the name be so hard to remember
arctic talon
Italians are fun
dusky beacon
Is there any lore reason why the Sisters Of Silence are an all women organization?
arctic talon
they're split between Allied forces and Axis ones
arctic talon
Is there any lore reason why the Sisters Of Silence are an all women organizatio...
No, likely just due to some tradition that spawned from whatever existed before hand
celest dome
Didn't Rogue Trader give one for the ship combat ? Or was that from Battle Fleet Gothic
winged silo
I'm thinking about what robe color I should make my Mechanicus fellas when I start printing.
hollow lantern
I love these idiots
winged silo
So many choices, it's hard to decide!
surreal nest
A nice time worn yellow
winged silo
That sounds neat.
winged silo
Like a steampunk aesthetic?
surreal nest
Hell yes
winged silo
Sounds good to me, but I'm still thinking.
crystal forum
steampunk in admech? daring today are we
surreal nest
Thats the greatest struggle for me I will sit and just think of a scheme before I actually engage
near wasp
surreal nest
But my best painting comes from just doing it and fuck it we ball energy
Put shit on a model and if it looks cool do it more
crystal forum
gotta experiment yeah
dusky beacon
No, likely just due to some tradition that spawned from whatever existed before ...
Ah, would still probably be pretty hard to rebrand them as just "Anathama Psykana"
celest dome
steampunk in admech? daring today are we
Now now, lets be nice
winged silo
I'll have to start experimenting when I get printing.
arctic talon
its heavily implied
the sisters of silence were a technobarbarian group
that the Emperor integrated into the imperial household
and mostly culturally genocided
like how he did with the rest of the Imperial household lol
crystal forum
a time honored 40k tradition
arctic talon
Normal genocide is honestly more common
crystal forum
we'll probably get a SOS book eventually
arctic talon
Then cultural genocide
crystal forum
i mean, idk how it could be written
arctic talon
I mean
crystal forum
since none of them talk
near wasp
Sos mentioned
arctic talon
We have the POV of a few
It’s just their internal thoughts
Watchers of the throne has the main protagonists be a SoS and Custodes
near wasp
Watchers of the peak
celest dome
Was it there where the SoS is suggesting abandoning the other people and the Custode change what she is saying to avoid causing despair to the other people ?
crystal forum
would be funny if the predecessor to SOS were the opposite and they talked all the time
near wasp
Was it there where the SoS is suggesting abandoning the other people and the Cus...
Yeah in tithes
winged silo
celest dome
Malcador having had enough of the SoS yapping around and telling them to stfu
arctic talon
Funnily enough the SoS ends up talking in watchers
crystal forum
be QUIET
arctic talon
Because she thinks she’s going to die
So she decides that might as well say something rather then signing it
near wasp
Big e will forgive
crystal forum
So she decides that might as well say something rather then signing it
huh so they just choose not to talk
arctic talon
Yeah
crystal forum
weird
arctic talon
They don’t have their tongues cut out or stuff
near wasp
Its just an oath
celest dome
I don't know if you've all done that before, but if you don't talk for a couple of day, when you'll try to talk again you'll just have difficulties, if it's years...Damn that must have been difficult
crystal forum
what a weird oath though
arctic talon
I don't know if you've all done that before, but if you don't talk for a couple ...
It does say she sounds odd and weird
When she talks
Anyways she’s great
crystal forum
A vow of silence is fairly common as oaths go
usually it's a penance or something religious
but they're not religious
crystal forum
isnt valerian the first custodes
arctic talon
No
near wasp
No
crystal forum
valdor?
winged silo
No
near wasp
Even valdor isnt
crystal forum
who is it again
winged silo
Idk
near wasp
We don't know who the first was
crystal forum
huh
crystal forum
the special boy
near wasp
She absolutely hates his guts
She doesn't hate him.
arctic talon
She doesn't hate him.
She doesn’t hate him as a person
crystal forum
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1381/2481/products/Valerian-and-Aleya_1.jpg?v=...
it's funny seeing like the most powerful type of units in the imperium acting like fighting cultists will be difficult
arctic talon
But she hates that the Custodes did nothing
arctic talon
it's funny seeing like the most powerful type of units in the imperium acting li...
They have to aura farm on them
near wasp
Valerian even hates that they did nothing
arctic talon
Ignore the fact none of their guns can fucking harm them unless they’re using special ammo
winged silo
What is your favorite kind of weapon from any faction?
near wasp
Power glaive
crystal forum
Ignore the fact none of their guns can fucking harm them unless they’re using sp...
just aim for the head stupid
arctic talon
D-cannon
arctic talon
just aim for the head stupid
Kid named “from golden light they descend”
near wasp
just aim for the head stupid
They'd fucking dodge the bullet
winged silo
I like the antimatter weapons from the Necrons and the plasma stuff from the Mechanicus.
arctic talon
Jokes aside custodes and SoS refractor fields
Being a fucking flashbang
Is hilarious
crystal forum
ngl i bet custodes skin can just bounce off bullets
wary fulcrum
just aim for the head stupid
Even then, he’ll probably be alright with a mild headache
crystal forum
built different
arctic talon
Gun emplacements no
crystal forum
rifles are small arms 
arctic talon
I’m dumb
near wasp
The main gun on a Bradley is technically small arms
crystal forum
small arms is compared to like howitzers
arctic talon
Okay correction
Custodes skin and bone can deal with most things fine that aren’t anti material or designed to penetrate armor
TLDR custodes cannot eat 50 cals for breakfast if they’re naked
arctic talon
No
near wasp
Only eyes of emp are
crystal forum
does custodes armor make them stronger or is it like space marines where the weight kind of negates it
arctic talon
It makes them stronger
Same with SoS power armor
SOS and Custodes power armor is the most advanced power armor in the imperium
No external power pack
near wasp
Its very good
crystal forum
god i love how cheap space marines look compared to these guys
near wasp
Fr
near wasp
Space Marines are budget soldiers
near wasp
Custodes are priced in entire planets
crystal forum
space marines fans wish space marines were custodes
hollow lantern
The main gun on a Bradley is technically small arms
By what metric?
near wasp
By what metric?
By the metric that small arms repairman are in charge of clearing and fixing them
hollow lantern
Neat
crystal forum
i think GW has fleshed out custodes pretty well
they dont feel like bigger SM's to me
spare osprey
The main gun on a Bradley is technically small arms
Get Specialist Zach on the horn.
spring cairn
i just don't fw super human soldiers all that much
crystal forum
same that's why i like guard
near wasp
Custodes don't even feel human tbh
arctic talon
thats because they aren't
spring cairn
it's fun for a while
arctic talon
the Sisters of Silence are very much the human side of the Talons
spare osprey
I mean Astartes have far more fun color pallets than big Custards.
hollow lantern
I don't like custodes cause they have no free will last i checked
arctic talon
they basically always have to agree with the Emperor
except he's on the throne
so lol
lmao
crystal forum
admech are like space marines but you actually like the superiority complex
it's funny
arctic talon
They can even think the Emperor is wrong and stupid
but they have to agree with him
winged silo
hate your meat
Same here.
crystal forum
but they have to agree with him
wonder how emp managed to do that to them
celest dome
Truly make it seem like they're deamon of the Emperor tbh
arctic talon
wonder how emp managed to do that to them
likely part of gene alchemy
near wasp
Genetic loyalty
crystal forum
custodes are like biblical angels i guess. they don't have true free will so they dont have humanity
arctic talon
you must always be loyal and always agree with him, you can question him but can never act against them
ect.
I.E A custodes can think that this is the most idiotic idea ever, and the Emperor is a dumbfuck for coming up with it
spare osprey
**you must always be loyal and always agree with him, you can question him but c...
Good idea, sah.
arctic talon
but they have to say "yes" to it
near wasp
as baseline humans
In watchers of th throne we get baseline human. Custodes and sos pov.
arctic talon
or go along with it
but nowadays the Emperors on the throne
so this isn't really as much of an issue for them
aside from them going "marines are fucking stupid"
crystal forum
makes you wonder if the emp gave primarchs free will on purpose
arctic talon
probably yes
crystal forum
if he could just remove it from people
near wasp
Custodes don't even agree with each other most the time
crystal forum
custodes are pretty dumb so it makes sense
near wasp
arctic talon
custodes arguing about Marines
crystal forum
what a coincidence that i decided to watch rick and morty for the first time ever today
only 13 years late
arctic talon
did you enjoy it lol
crystal forum
i did not expect to but i laughed a bit
only one season in
i do think this show would have been a terrible influence on me as a teen though
arctic talon
genuinely I've never watched it lol
arctic talon
i do think this show would have been a terrible influence on me as a teen though
probably
lol
hollow lantern
The first like
2 and a half or so seasons are genuinely good
As long as no one is telling you how good it is
crystal forum
yeah i hear season 3 onwards is when it gets meh
spring cairn
In watchers of th throne we get baseline human. Custodes and sos pov.
i've only ever read the ciaphas cain stuff when it comes to 40k
hollow lantern
That being said
crystal forum
and that's because justin roiland let being famous get to his head
hollow lantern
spring cairn
and it's basically only human stuff
hollow lantern
The best Rick and mo episode isn't Rick and mo
near wasp
i've only ever read the ciaphas cain stuff when it comes to 40k
Tragic. Watchers is genuinely very good
crystal forum
https://youtu.be/v6yg4ImnYwA?si=qmVtHIPHhgVMBp8Z
i have seen this one many times and quote it constantly
arctic talon
https://youtu.be/v6yg4ImnYwA?si=qmVtHIPHhgVMBp8Z
I've watched this one though lol
crystal forum
i fucking love michael cusak
his shows never get the popularity they deserve
except smiling friends
hollow lantern
Agreed
spring cairn
that one doesn't count
crystal forum
i liked YOLO too
spring cairn
australians are just funny
spring cairn
it's so good
spare osprey
Got myself the Ciaphas Cain book and the Fall of Cadia.
I wan' all them books that follow big Robu's journey since wakin' up.
spring cairn
but every1 knows that
crystal forum
https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-smiling-friends-vanish-smiling-friends-sa...
i saw it pointed out that the pencil is in his ass
hollow lantern
Smiling Friends is the best shit on adult swim rn
crystal forum
and i cant unsee it
near wasp
Fall of cadia is before he woke up
arctic talon
spring cairn
spare osprey
Fall of cadia is before he woke up
Well, yeh. I know that much.
Buuut. Felt like a good place to start.
vagrant fox
So Jes is to blame
Smiling Friends is alright
I can't believe I watched the whole thing because of a Chris Chan reference though
arctic talon
god i fucking love the mocap moments in s3
all the rotoscoping is fucking hilarious
near wasp
Well, yeh. I know that much.
Buuut. Felt like a good place to start.
It really is tbh
crystal forum
all the rotoscoping is fucking hilarious
there's something about it that's so fucking funny
arctic talon
it looks so fucking weird and unnatural in a good way
crystal forum
arctic talon
smiling friends having such a chaotic artstyle is great
dusky beacon
god i fucking love the mocap moments in s3
Its actually Rotoscoping, pretty much just drawing over a real person doing the movements
arctic talon
makes everything stand out well
crystal forum
Its actually Rotoscoping, pretty much just drawing over a real person doing the ...
ye ik drue langlois uses it a lot
the guy who did shoebody bop
but i know him for plague roach
crystal forum
i feel like smiling friends will be hated in a few years because everybody will copy it
hollow lantern
smiling friends having such a chaotic artstyle is great
It serves the neodada horseshit going on really well tbh
crystal forum
as the cycle always goes
hollow lantern
Smiling Friends is gonna be Seinfield for animated shows for a bit tbh
crystal forum
im just happy zack hadel got a show which he should have gotten for a while
he'll go on to make a lot of good shit
he had a previous attempt at adult swim which failed if anybody remembers
maybe smiling friends was only picked up because michael cusack is involved and he has previous shows
even though none of his shows were ever really popular
anyways back to watching rick and morty
hollow lantern
I’ll take positivity over cynicism
arctic talon
https://tenor.com/view/mr-boss-mr-boss-gun-mr-boss-smiling-friends-smiling-frien...
Glep being from hyperborea is fucking hilarious
crystal forum
the deep internet references are great
rose thorn
https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-mr-boss-glep-gif-13998669893405340317
I always assumed this was just a trace of that one sniper rigle from fallout nv
crystal forum
the anti material rifle?
crystal forum
the normal sniper rifle is in 3 too
crystal forum
oh that one
rose thorn
rose thorn
Yeah
crystal forum
which references a bunch of older designs
like the old plasma rifle
plasma caster in NV
imagine if plasma rifle stayed like this
have i ever mentioned how i pictured plasma guns in 40k to be green before i saw the models because of fallout
i read 40k books before knowing of tabletop
cinder sphinx
nothing says they cannot be green.
thorn edge
The bad unqiue sniper rifle
It's really good if you do a VATS build
Well not really, but it's ok
rose thorn
Ecto-plasma weapons are green
arctic talon
Gonna need that image Elite
greeeeen
humble shoal
**greeeeen**
Clearly an apothecary
storm jungle
**greeeeen**
Gunky as hell
humble shoal
Terminator... apothecary
crystal forum
**greeeeen**
is that a minotaur
arctic talon
yeah
crystal forum
i didnt know FW had minotaur stuff
storm jungle
bro
thats literally fucking where they debuted
oh my god jay im gonna nuke you
low gazelle
I never finished the question properly. Is trazyn so strong that he can just get away with comedically stupid shit like he did at cadia
surreal nest
**greeeeen**
green plasma is just so good
surreal nest
I never finished the question properly. Is trazyn so strong that he can just get...
trazyn is mr plot
storm jungle
I never finished the question properly. Is trazyn so strong that he can just get...
Yes.
low gazelle
😭
storm jungle
anyway as i was saying
He can literally just teleport on spot and do other shit because necron tech is just super advanced
celest dome
Cursed to remain here
crystal forum
he didnt really do anything on cadia other than mess with the stuff that was already present
surreal nest
i think trazyn was a notable fighter on cadia for he did the silliest things possible
arctic talon
also didn't he save creed from cadia exploding
By telling Cawl what to do
low gazelle
i think trazyn was a notable fighter on cadia for he did the silliest things pos...
My friend mentioned how he was the comedic relief of cadia
So that got me thinkin
crystal forum
he is in the book lol
low gazelle
and was like yeah basically
surreal nest
By telling Cawl what to do
i thought creed got collected before cadia exploded
surreal nest
so whats the deal with trazyn anyways why does he seem chill with humanity
crystal forum
he just doesnt have an active hatred of humans
arctic talon
i thought creed got collected before cadia exploded
Creed got collected yes
opaque coyote
Honestly I think Halo 2 Anniversary has my favorite "infection"/Flood Infected Spartan design ever
crystal forum
trazyn just likes history no matter which species
arctic talon
so whats the deal with trazyn anyways why does he seem chill with humanity
He likes collecting shit for museum and is a hoarder
low gazelle
Honestly I think Halo 2 Anniversary has my favorite "infection"/Flood Infected S...
Ohhh HALO TALK
IM HOME
MAMA
opaque coyote
Honestly I think Halo 2 Anniversary has my favorite "infection"/Flood Infected S...
I don't know why but this looks fucking sick
crystal forum
i dont think he respects any species he just doesnt care
surreal nest
trazyn is such a breath of fresh air for necron lore
arctic talon
I don't know why but this looks fucking sick
Infection form is sticking out the skull
opaque coyote
I guess it's because of the flood mutations basically bursting out of his skull
surreal nest
i dont think he respects any species he just doesnt care
he has to respect the imperium a little bit to want to help them on cadia
well i guess not
cadia exploding hurt literally everybody
arctic talon
he has to respect the imperium a little bit to want to help them on cadia
No he doesn’t
He explicitly just wanted to grab stuff
And “play the hero” for the humans
lol
opaque coyote
Infection form is sticking out the skull
The... Tentacle? Basically mutating out of it's throat. As if it's struggling against the armor that binds it
surreal nest
He explicitly just wanted to grab stuff
bro could always do that
crystal forum
he has to respect the imperium a little bit to want to help them on cadia
he could have helped a lot more if that was his motivation
opaque coyote
I just find that fucking cool
low gazelle
Are there any books that talk about the other horrors of the warp besides the chaos gods
arctic talon
bro could always do that
I mean that’s his reasoning why he shows up
He wants to collect shit on Cadia
As it’s falling
low gazelle
Like arent there beings that just arent interested in real space
surreal nest
thats weird
valid needle
Like arent there beings that just arent interested in real space
Yes
surreal nest
this dude sounds like an evil pervert
crystal forum
he just likes collecting stuff
crystal forum
also he imprisons people against their will so yeah he's not some sane guy
surreal nest
hes a necron i was not under that impression
valid needle
this dude sounds like an evil pervert
Konrad Curze? Yes but that’s why he is daddy.
opaque coyote
He’s literally a hoarder
I'm pretty sure if somebody's wife had a rare feature somehow
surreal nest
i feel like trazyn could have done a lot more if an entire blackstone fortress didnt just get thunder cunted at cadia
opaque coyote
He would totally just swoop in, steal her, and put her under stasis
opaque coyote
i feel like trazyn could have done a lot more if an entire blackstone fortress d...
He was basically just there because nobody wants Chaos to get more of a foothold on the galaxy
Bad for collecting stuff
crystal forum
i feel like trazyn could have done a lot more if an entire blackstone fortress d...
if trazyn was actually motivated by liking the imperium he could have done something to abaddon or some shit
surreal nest
i mean he gave them battle saving information i just dont think he anticipated such an act
crystal forum
probably not
opaque coyote
i mean he gave them battle saving information i just dont think he anticipated s...
He definitely didn't lmao
arctic talon
He just told Cawl to turn on the pylons
surreal nest
isnt that important
crystal forum
nobody really expected the fuck it we ball strategy
opaque coyote
He just told Cawl to turn on the pylons
WE MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS
arctic talon
The imperium had still lost the orbital battle already
It was important
But chaos was winning the battle
Absurdly hard
crystal forum
The imperium had still lost the orbital battle already
yeah thanks imperial fists
arctic talon
By the time the pylon fields came online
surreal nest
yeah but wasnt trazyn actively sending his little goofy minions before they decided to just fuck it bomb
arctic talon
yeah but wasnt trazyn actively sending his little goofy minions before they deci...
No
surreal nest
im just saying bro sounds like a trooper to me
arctic talon
He threw out his spares of spares of spares
To stall Abby D
While Cawl turned on the pylons
surreal nest
shit i would too
arctic talon
Bcs he wanted to see it
crystal forum
trazyn was walking around the battle just choosing what to collect
arctic talon
And then he left the moment abbadon cut through his spares of spares of spares
And nabbed creed on the way out
lol
surreal nest
i think we should hold a moment of silence for what trazyn lost in his endeavor
arctic talon
Like
crystal forum
wait how did cawl even escape
arctic talon
30 marines and a custodes
opaque coyote
isnt that important
The Blackstone Fortress was also basically a fucking gold mine for weaponry and technology.
If Abaddon somehow fixed it, it would've done way more damage.
But because it was basically useless aside from possibly flying around. He decided "fuck it, just throw it at the planet"
crystal forum
i dont remember cawl escaping in the book
arctic talon
wait how did cawl even escape
He got to his lander somehow
It’s in the campaign novel
And escaped to his ark mechanicus
With some other survivors
And then Abby D tries to kill them
surreal nest
somehow, cawl returned
arctic talon
lol
crystal forum
wasnt his position completely surrounded
crystal forum
i know thats where the melta gun kasrkin dies
crystal forum
just got too cocky
opaque coyote
Happens to the best of us
Hopefully he'll respawn
Still though taking out a bunch of CSMs before dying is a much better K/D ratio than uhhh
Most guardsmen
crystal forum
what a great book man i enjoyed it
opaque coyote
God I wish Battlefront 40k was a thing.
I know they already attempted it once but like
That but good
That would be nice
arctic talon
Tldr Cawl went out the other end of the cave
well
"cave"
its a necron installation
technically
crystal forum
idk by that point in the book i had difficulty concentrating
arctic talon
but Cawl escaped through the not main entrance along with other Guard/marine/inqusitorial survivors
mostly black templars and cadians
crystal forum
black templars running away
arctic talon
black templars running away
only bcs celestine told them lmao
vagrant fox
Glave as almost him
arctic talon
Glave was close
crystal forum
oh right celestine fucking dying to the pylons was hilarious
if there isnt a bigger indication that she's a demon
storm jungle
Are there any books that talk about the other horrors of the warp besides the ch...
Requiem Infernal is the biggest one
it like
approaches that unknowable cthulu horror of the Warp
and its like VERY mindfucky
arctic talon
Any of the Dark Coil chaosy/warp books
have really weird Warp mindfuck stuff
but Requiem infernal is def the best of them
crystal forum
Glave as almost him
is glave the kasrkin
arctic talon
yes
crystal forum
rip guy
the book really does justice to the core theme of guard being mostly luck
some people just survive and become badasses because they simply didnt die
then they die for no reason
arctic talon
this art from gathering storm is so funny to me
tight stratus
just been idle in mourning star strange the things you hear. "Through steel salvation!" CHANTING "THROUGH STEEL SALVATION!"
opaque coyote
the book really does justice to the core theme of guard being mostly luck
Generally how it goes for a lot of battles in general.
With the exception of course... the legendary Plot Armor
arctic talon
like wtf are they even looking at in that art lol
crystal forum
Generally how it goes for a lot of battles in general.
With the exception of co...
other factions have a more skill based main character syndrome i feel. like space marine guy is just better than everyone because he knows how to shoot better