40k-lore-chat

[daring creek]

both arms actually, her name is rin :)

[arctic talon]

I love running

But having asthma sucks

[daring creek]

She's a painter

[vagrant fox]

Don't post that

[arctic talon]

Inhaler works at least

lol

[rocky gale]

Yooo Katawa Shoujo

[dark moon]

Asthmatics rise up. (But not too fast, or my vision blurs. )

[crystal forum]

asthma is god telling you that you should have died at birth

[arctic talon]

You’ve got it worse then me lol

I only suffer from it around a lot of smoke or when exercising a ton

[daring creek]

defy god

live to kill him

[dark moon]

Well, he already took my siblings from me, guess he forgot about me.

[vagrant fox]

'ate running on account of my flat feet. Nothing worse under the sun

[arctic talon]

I love running

It’s so fun

I hate treadmills tho

[dark moon]

I sometimes enjoy running.

[crystal forum]

twink lookin ass

[arctic talon]

Literal dread

[dark moon]

Depending on the day.

[daring creek]

Reading her lore, her arms are just stubs

cool!

[arctic talon]

You think I’m ashamed of how I look smh

[vagrant fox]

Runners should be destroyed or put in big hamster wheels like the freaks they are

[daring creek]

My dad is kind of like that so i actually enjoy that kind of connection

[crystal forum]

no im thirsting

[arctic talon]

💀

I’m taken

[crystal forum]

lame

[daring creek]

takin deez nuts

I wonder if my arms will ever fall off and i'll look more like my dad

[dark moon]

Probably not unless you get into a factory accident.

[crystal forum]

you'd be into that

[daring creek]

no I wouldn't lmfao!

[crystal forum]

the first part

[daring creek]

it's one of my worst anxieties lmao

[crystal forum]

losing your arms?

[daring creek]

yea

weird ocd shit

[crystal forum]

is that something you regularly think about

[daring creek]

Not as much thanks to prozac

[crystal forum]

waking up in the morning like boy im sure glad i have both my arms

[daring creek]

It's complicated

[crystal forum]

i for one take my appendages for granted

[daring creek]

what am I thinking about...

im thinking about rin

[crystal forum]

illegal things

[rocky gale]

Bros over here having no strong opinions about the number of limbs he's got

[dark moon]

The best way to describe living with OCD is that you’re a bunch of anxieties, baseless fears, and irrational thoughts, etc. shambling around in a roughly bipedal approximation of a human being.

Well, on some days. Other days are fine-ish.

[crystal forum]

it's my god given right as non disabled person to not think about all the horrible things which could happen to my body any day

i drive my car fast

[daring creek]

It's like that one Akira gif sometimes

[arctic talon]

Ngl it’s so funny how common smoking is in cyberpunk

Only bcs vaping wasn’t a thing yet

Thanks pondsmith

Cigs look way cooler

[crystal forum]

you can also just get your lungs replaced

[daring creek]

what do I want to talk about...

Listening to..Same man as I was before by Oingo Boingo

[vagrant fox]

Cyberpunk cigarettes have to pack a punch

[arctic talon]

It’s funny how the ads still have warnings for smoking

But the ads for literal synthcoke don’t

[dark moon]

I should really start taking my own armchair therapist / philosopher advice that I sometimes give out here.

But harm ocd is a tricky bastard sometimes.

[daring creek]

It happens, just be patient with yourself and do things in small steps.

[dark moon]

So true, pal. It’s just one of those days.

[daring creek]

yeeep

[vagrant fox]

Listen to something proper like Nur Geträumt by Blümchen

[daring creek]

fym this is proper

I'm listening to weird science now

fuck you sigsen!!!!

[arctic talon]

Enough of the population don’t have that sort of chrome so irl cigs would work fine

[vagrant fox]

no

[young pecan]

And a whole lot of rituals

[arctic talon]

Most chrome is pretty basic

Neuralport

And that’s it really

[dark moon]

Oh yeah, forgot about that.

[arctic talon]

Maybe something for your job

[vagrant fox]

Most people are poor cowards you mean

[dark moon]

Mainly mental rituals for me, fucking sucks.

Not as bad as it was 2 years ago.

[young pecan]

I don't think it's enough to warrant self-diagnosing myself but when I was younger especially I would have stupid rituals

[arctic talon]

chip in

Still funny how a fucking persona game helped me process my depression in middle school lmao

[dark moon]

I did quite a bit of research into OCD before being properly diagnosed with it.

You may very well have a version of it.

It takes many different forms.

[vagrant fox]

Just completely borg me up I hate everything below my knees

[arctic talon]

The issue is some people can’t take the time out of their lives or have the money to get diagnosed and get the medicine

[young pecan]

The biggest one was if there were two of the same thing I had to interact with, I would interact with one, then because the first one was first, I would do the second one twice, but I couldn't have one more than the other, so I would do the first one a second time after that

[daring creek]

Anyone else ever touch something

[dark moon]

Yeah, that sounds like OCD to me.

[arctic talon]

Hate your meat, tear it out

[daring creek]

and need to scratch it

[crystal forum]

i'll touch you

[dark moon]

Or at least OCD tendencies

[daring creek]

cuz you feel like the object itch

[daring creek]

Can I touch you with needles

[arctic talon]

One of my players is about to go cyberpsycho lol

Too much black lace and chrome

Wonder if they’ll chill out or if they want to do

[crystal forum]

only if i get to touch you with blades

[arctic talon]

the funny

[daring creek]

I sit before obsidian

unsure of what to write

[crystal forum]

build a nether portal

[vagrant fox]

They should

[young pecan]

How does cyberpsychosis work in the TTRPG? Just rolls over time?

[arctic talon]

Based on humanity + a roll

Due to some stuff

Once you go off the deep end

You lose full control lol

If you hit 0 humanity

You’re basically cyberpsycho at that point

Bcs any humanity loss will make you go cyberpsycho on the spot

If you’re negative you’ll go cyberpsycho regardless lol

[storm jungle]

this is just real life

[arctic talon]

No shit

[storm jungle]

Shut the fuck up

https://tenor.com/view/slap-rip-rhino-toy-gif-23656797

[daring creek]

I think the thing is I'm unsure if I want to actually re-write the introduction or just keep writing shit

[daring creek]

I think I should first ask myself

[dark moon]

Keep writing, iron it out later.

[daring creek]

Do I feel I've reached an end?

Thats the plan

I gottt...

3k words

idk how many paragraphs

been working on this in and out for months now

[young pecan]

So is it that the humanity is being lowered over time because he keeps adding chrome?

When is that roll made?

[arctic talon]

Humanity is lowered when you install chrome, get trauma, take severe injuries or use certain drugs

And also your natural humanity cap

• starting humanity at character creation

[storm jungle]

AUTOMATONS LETS GO

[young pecan]

Is there any way to be built diff on tabletop or is everyone vulnerable like that

[crystal forum]

the what

[vagrant fox]

You gotta get longer than that Loud House fanfic that's 12 mil words keep going

[arctic talon]

Have high humanity

lol

That’s called being built different

[daring creek]

Obsidian is writing software

[arctic talon]

David by tabletop standards would have extremely high humanity

Keeps on installing chrome with no real break

lol

You restore some humanity by resting/taking a break/relaxing

[crystal forum]

tf do you need writing software for when you have notepad

[arctic talon]

Ect.

[crystal forum]

maybe microsoft word if you're feeling fancy

[arctic talon]

Some drugs restore humanity

At the cost of other issues

[young pecan]

Yeah I guess it is

[daring creek]

Lets me organize it better

[young pecan]

Also like real life xd

[daring creek]

good interface

[arctic talon]

V would have extremely high humanity

[daring creek]

and all that jazz

[arctic talon]

• Johnny helping the strain

lol

[crystal forum]

what are you writing

[arctic talon]

actually

[young pecan]

One must imagine David with rest time

[hollow lantern]

One day I'll get to play cyberpunk and full borg myself and be a martial arts machine

[arctic talon]

V’s humanity isn’t that high based on what you installl

Technically

It’s like good

But it’s not like David

Then again you install/uninstall new shit constantly

So that’s bad for your humanity lol

[hollow lantern]

Tbf the game takes some liberties

[young pecan]

Is that canon or just gameplay?

[daring creek]

Psychic girl stalking another paranormal girl atm

[arctic talon]

Idk, I’d consider it gameplay to an extent

[crystal forum]

how horny is it

[arctic talon]

Also replacing your removed meat with meat that’s “normal” helps in restoring humanity

lol

Or with a normal prosthetic

If you can’t afford new meat

[daring creek]

None yet. Though with the same characters there was some in a different note

somewhere in google docs I think

[young pecan]

So are there cybernetics that look and act like normal body parts but are still a lot of borg when you want them to be?

[arctic talon]

Normal prosthetics don’t reduce humanity

Yeah

[young pecan]

For the sake of humanity

[arctic talon]

I.E a prosthetic hand or replacement meat arm is fine and causes 0 humanity loss

If you have a biosculpted meat arm replacement or a combat arm with integrated armor

That causes a humanity loss

Because it’s not “right”

[young pecan]

So no mantis blades hidden in a meat arm?

[arctic talon]

You can

Meat arms can hold 1 piece of chrome usually

[young pecan]

Does that fall under "not right" or "good enough"

[arctic talon]

Cyber arms vary

[young pecan]

Ohh okay

[arctic talon]

Mantis arms cause a massive humanity loss

Due to how much surgery is required to them

You basically totally mutilate and “open” your arm

Remove bones

Replace them with metal

That process can be done on a meat arm

But it causes humanity loss all the same

[daring creek]

@crystal forum What do you think of the name "Tomsa"?

[crystal forum]

sounds like tomska

[daring creek]

lol

[arctic talon]

You could do this to a meat arm fine

But it’s extremely invasive

[vagrant fox]

Tomsa makes me think of finns makes me think about getting stabbed

[young pecan]

You can see where the skin melds into the chrome

That boah ain't right

[crystal forum]

they really had to find the most complicated way to make sword arms

[arctic talon]

There’s simpler ones

[young pecan]

Also it's cool that David's ripperdoc cared about him in a messed up sort of way

No anesthetic because if you can't handle that then you can't handle the chrome

[crystal forum]

bruh

[arctic talon]

Ultimately cyberpunk is all about style

[arctic talon]

Anesthesia is extra

[crystal forum]

dies of shock

[arctic talon]

David was broke lol

[young pecan]

I thought that was just how he operated

[arctic talon]

LOL

[dark moon]

Was thinking about the previous conversation on music. Just remembered this gem:

https://youtu.be/20y47KYgen0?si=4gSx2a11vN4_FGRY

[crystal forum]

doesnt matter how tough you are boy if you're awake in bone surgery you will fucking die from shock

[young pecan]

True

[arctic talon]

Good thing this is fiction

[daring creek]

I can tank it

:p

[vagrant fox]

I could tank* bone surgery

[young pecan]

Fiction does not care about made up things such as "shock" and "real things the human body can actually endure"

[arctic talon]

Cyberpunk cares even less

On god

Thanks pondsmith

[daring creek]

I will tank it

[young pecan]

You punch an anime character in the stomach once and they puke blood on you

[arctic talon]

Funny how the generic rocker has always been female when a lot of the famous in universe rockers are male

[vagrant fox]

More cybernetics customization for the next game or I'll be mildly disappointed

[young pecan]

Rocker?

[arctic talon]

Cyberware so you can wear any size shoe

[crystal forum]

i hope there wont be a next game

[arctic talon]

Class in the tabletop

What Johnny Silverhand is

[hollow lantern]

Please god let me full borg

[young pecan]

They have classes in the tabletop too?

[arctic talon]

yes

They’re called roles

Specifically

[young pecan]

Does that restrict your borg options or something

[hollow lantern]

Give me the eclipse

[arctic talon]

Nope, just gives bonuses/off time stuff/house stash stuff/abilties

[vagrant fox]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_2

Check it out

[arctic talon]

Roles in the tabletop are: Solo, Netrunner, Medtech, Nomad, Exec/corpo, Fixer, Rocker, Techie, Lawman and Media

[young pecan]

But the game we have is Cyberpunk 2077
If that one is 2 then were are the other 2075

[arctic talon]

Least popular tabletop roles are prolly Lawman and Fixer

From my expierence

[young pecan]

Medtech sounds fun, what are they like?

[vagrant fox]

Does the cyberpunk chargen include something like benefits and drawbacks like in wod?

[young pecan]

They're not "life cleric" levels of boring are they

[arctic talon]

Combat medic/person who makes drugs. Has forensic skills and such

You’re the only person who can properly administer medicine in the heat of combat

You also

Have a gun

And know why parts are squishiest

And can also harvest people

[hollow lantern]

Imagine seeing this list and not picking Solo

[young pecan]

Combat medics that actually let you combat

So peak...

[arctic talon]

Remember if you grapple someone

[young pecan]

What is the benefit of this

[sacred ginkgo]

How hard it it to acquire a needle rifle or smth

[arctic talon]

And your medical skill is high enough

You can perform “surgery” on them

[young pecan]

Good god LMFAO that's awesome

[arctic talon]

you can harvest organs and cyberware

resell it

you're not a butcher you're an expert at this

you went to medschool unlike the rest of these savages/j

[sacred ginkgo]

Reminder that a human kidney is still a human kidney and prone to failure

[arctic talon]

well you don't always have to go to medschool

but anyone can do medicine

medtechs are just the best at it

[young pecan]

Are medtechs hated or loved by the DM usually
I feel like that's the kind of role that is usually one or the other

[arctic talon]

indifferent

[hollow lantern]

I don't think cyberpunk has an equivalent to dnd wizard

[arctic talon]

it doesn't

[hollow lantern]

Otherwise known as class that invalidates everything

[arctic talon]

netrunner is the only thing remotely close

[young pecan]

Isn't that sort of a good thing

[arctic talon]

but netrunner is also weird as fuck

lol

[young pecan]

I was gonna say

[hollow lantern]

That's a great thing

[arctic talon]

Corporate/exc + media + fixer usually have the most issues

out of combat

Netrunner has the most issues in combat

bcs they're playing a seperate game along with the normal one

[young pecan]

? How so

[arctic talon]

netrunners have to deal with something known as a net architecture in combat

to use their abilities

[young pecan]

Also is the black wall hack spamming in the game inaccurate representation

[arctic talon]

unlike how the video game presents it

you need to get past layers upon layers of security

or sometimes very few layers

it varies

[arctic talon]

inaccurate

you have to first compramise an indviduals or a net architectures ICE + security

then you can start doing stuff

[hollow lantern]

Breaching the blackwall is a big no no

In game iirc

[arctic talon]

the blackwall gateway hack in 2077

[hollow lantern]

You'll get torn apart by Rabids

[arctic talon]

is horrifying

also there's a friendly beyond blackwall AI

in one of the campaign modules

and its idea of "helping"

[hollow lantern]

Actively helping AI demons learn how to kill humanity

[arctic talon]

is horrifying

lol

it does help you

it also causes massive humanity loss

because it literally doesn't understand how humans work properly

but it is friendly

[tough haven]

Nomos if he was evil

And you made him heretical

[arctic talon]

TLDR you know how Lucy in Edgerunners

needs to do a bunch of stuff

before hacking someone with a quick hack

think that but more

[young pecan]

Examples?

[tough haven]

We just need an iconoclast runner to teach them humanity as a concept

[arctic talon]

it uploads the entire contents of a server database to you at once with all the relevant info highlighted because you ask it for information on a specific executive

it literally melts someones cortex

because they try to shoot you

[hollow lantern]

2077 netrunning gameplay would be cooler if it were more like tabletop instead of literally point and click spells I'm ngl

[tough haven]

Id love to play the tabletop

But I don’t have anyone to run it

[tough haven]

Maybe in 2

[young pecan]

The tabletop game sounds fun

[hollow lantern]

Yeah I'd also love to find a tabletop group that doesn't only want to play dnd but here we are

[tough haven]

Perhaps a group here could do it

[young pecan]

D&D is really neat and I love the lore for it

[arctic talon]

but here's an example of what the net architecture looks like

for a pretty complex encounter

i this looks like gibrish

don't worry

[young pecan]

But it's also such a fatass in terms of taking up tabletop representation

[arctic talon]

it is unless you read the rules

[hollow lantern]

I like the lore but hate the game

I dislike that the system is "be a magic user or suffer" and "the dm does all the work"

[tough haven]

I’m trying to do a “inspector gadget” tech priest character where he appears largely baseline human, but all his augments that possibly can be are installed and concealed under synth skin/plasteel exterior

[arctic talon]

but here's an example of one

thats unfilled

it "branches"

[tough haven]

Thoughts?

[arctic talon]

with multiple floors

as y ou breach deeper you get more access

[young pecan]

How do other systems remedy this?

[arctic talon]

Make magic and martials equal

[young pecan]

The second one I mean

[arctic talon]

make martials better then magic(opposite issue)

oh

[tough haven]

Like augments that outwardly look really sleek but can open up to be your typical nightmare machine

[hollow lantern]

I mean pathfinder for instance doesn't make wizards have an infinite spell list that can invalidate every other class.

[young pecan]

(The second issue not the magic thing)

Pathfinder is neat but also the only campaign I played of it I had to use a feat slot to not heal enemies with my channel as a cleric

That struck me as really weird

[tough haven]

Like fingers folding in on themselves and sliding in to expose a chordclaw

[arctic talon]

but here's an example of a net architecture that would be appropriate for a corporate kill squad

bait to "kill" the netrunner

[young pecan]

That would be really funny methinks

[arctic talon]

goes hard

[young pecan]

Imagine him as your dentist

[sacred ginkgo]

How much space does this take up in a book

[arctic talon]

The net architecture rules are like

I forgot how many pages long

[young pecan]

Go in for a first-time procedure at the dentist and instead of reaching over for a tool, his arm opens up into like 50 different tools and he cycles through which one he wants

[sacred ginkgo]

The specific encounter

[young pecan]

All tools looming over your face

[arctic talon]

Oh this is just something I cooked up lol

you'd put this all on one page

but blank

[tough haven]

It’s just “inspector gadget if he was really scarred and horrifying”

Instead of extending arms he’s got weapons that go through steel

[hollow lantern]

Ime dnd publishes exceptionally barebones books as of late

And expects DMs to bridge the gaps in them

[young pecan]

Oh that yeah

[tough haven]

I’m stumped on how I’d like to roleplay him though

[hollow lantern]

Which leads to more prep works for said dm

[young pecan]

If you want him to be creepy, part of it could be him being eager to be helpful

But be helpful in strange ways

[tough haven]

I wanna do the classic “cynical grizzled investigator” but also wanna do the classic tech priest bits

[young pecan]

I hate that they can't be bothered to put in the effort to give lore

[tough haven]

Btw he works for the collegiate Extremis

If that helps

[young pecan]

It's genuinely insane watching every single one of MrRhexx's videos and him being like "Okay so the 5th Edition Monster Manual actually pretty much doesn't tell you literally anything about this creature except that it is a ghost/beast/etc...." and lo and behold, the monster's flavor entry is like 5 sentences

[hollow lantern]

Also ime dnd serves best as the name implies, a dungeon crawl, and a lot of people want to do parties and politics.

[young pecan]

Every time he does a monster video he has to pull from previous editions because 5E sucks so fucking bad for lore

[hollow lantern]

Opening the monsters know for every single monster entry cause WoTC couldn't be fucked.

[tough haven]

EXACTLY! But no party I’ve ever played in wants to do dungeon crawls anymore

[young pecan]

Good thing for him he does videos well and the older editions are genuinely really cool about the lore

[tough haven]

Like I wanna be ground down slowly in a labyrinthine crypt

Darkest dungeon style

[hollow lantern]

All I yearn for is a dungeon crawl where we will actually utilize short rests to give martials a semblance of use.

[young pecan]

Like the lore on elves' trance ability

Nowhere

[tough haven]

Give me like a blackstone fortress type deal for a dnd campaign

[young pecan]

But it's one of my favorite little snippets of lore

[tough haven]

It would be so easy

[sacred ginkgo]

The game at my store short rests

But they also like to push their luck and just not rest

after a 40 enemy encounter

and run into a reskinned vampire lord

[young pecan]

Does the overarching plot encourage them to rush?

[sacred ginkgo]

Kinda

We are uhhh

[young pecan]

I could understand them trying to reason about not resting if so but still

[sacred ginkgo]

REALLY fucked

[young pecan]

Know your limits xd

[tough haven]

The barebones backstory I’ve got is that he worked as a private investigator in the hives of the forge world he grew up on, eventually taking in an orphaned juve under his wing, as a result of some unspecified thing related to rather extreme tech heresy, it caused this person he was protecting to die. From them on he dedicated himself to hunting down similar cases before they happen to ensure no more innocents suffer due to the hubris of man. Attracting the attention of the collegiate

[arctic talon]

dnd 5e's materials suck for DMs lol

and I say this as someone who does DnD 5e

[hollow lantern]

Yeah it does.

[arctic talon]

I don't even hate or dislike DnD 5e

lol

[hollow lantern]

I don't dislike 5e but it does often disappoint me.

[sacred ginkgo]

Locked in a less than mile side to side dungeon with:
An ancient red and ancient green
A giant fuckoff kraken whos flooding stuff
A proliferation of flesh that is slowly expanding towards "Town"
A bunch of insect people trying to open Pandora's Box (in its most literal interpretation) with a fucking Tarrasque
and the army of undead that know the exact position of a certain tome in the parties possession that they kinda want (which is its own massive can of worms to merely possess)

Oh and a demon army assaulting some dome that takes up a solid 16th of the dungeon

[tough haven]

Take a nap and deal with it in the morning

[hollow lantern]

What level is the party?

[sacred ginkgo]

13th rn

[hollow lantern]

You'll be fine.

[arctic talon]

my issue with PF2e is that it ironically swings the balance in the other direction for martial/caster bias

but whatever lol

[sacred ginkgo]

Game is forecasted for 20 but we're getting fucked by stuff

[tough haven]

I have a simple solution

[hollow lantern]

I agree but it still isn't as extreme as the disparity between every other class and wizard ime

[tough haven]

Give martials active abilities like Elden ring weapon arts

[hollow lantern]

Like it is specifically wizard that's the problem class imo

[tough haven]

Like spells but physical

[arctic talon]

DnD 4e

lol

[sacred ginkgo]

the 40 enemy encounter probably would have ganked us because there was a Merelith who could've downed a person a turn, but someone hit it with Mind Sliver into 5th level Bestow Curse

[tough haven]

Give them single use abilities that can provide a similar level of utility or flexibility

[tough haven]

Exactly

It can and has been done

[hollow lantern]

Ime people love 4e mechanics as long as you don't tell them they're 4e mechanics

[arctic talon]

Yes

[hollow lantern]

MCDM books are great

[sacred ginkgo]

Skill challenges

[arctic talon]

Insert lancer joke here

[sacred ginkgo]

Minions

[arctic talon]

lol

Jokes aside

DnD 6e whenever it happens because WOTC loves money

should take inspiration from DnD 4e

[hollow lantern]

It will

[sacred ginkgo]

The DM at the store loves the 4e fun stuff

[arctic talon]

and give martials active abilities

[hollow lantern]

On this note

Balance battle master abilities better

They're meh cause they're balanced around access at level 3

[sacred ginkgo]

Battle master getting to own the world at 15th for the funny

[tough haven]

Martials need it bad

Playing a martial in 5e is basically an idle game

Oh it’s my turn?

[arctic talon]

they don't need it if you're doing a dungeon crawl

lol

[tough haven]

You know what I’m gonna do

[arctic talon]

the issue is

most people do not do dungeon crawls

hell

even back in 3.5e lol

[hollow lantern]

Martials genuinely feel good if your party actually is forced to short rests

If your game is long rest between every combat just play wizard and spam fireball

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah the people I've played with actually short rest so I feel different about it

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Which is why I try to do short rests

however a chunk of my DnD players do not like combat that much

for reasons

lol

[hollow lantern]

Again, dnd is best as a dungeon crawler

It is simply not the system to be doing parties and politics

There is one social stat pillar

You either have charisma or you don't lmfao

[tough haven]

Charisma is always my dump stat

Unless I’m a charisma caster

[young pecan]

An ancient red and an ancient green in the same dungeon??

Are they fucking or??

[sacred ginkgo]

Its a big fucking dungeon

[hollow lantern]

How big

[sacred ginkgo]

As I said

A mile or more in width

[arctic talon]

honestly most systems aren't good for that

lol

[sacred ginkgo]

Its 16 normal ish sized dungeons

[hollow lantern]

I agree

[arctic talon]

what the fuck is the thing

that uh

critcal role helped make

daggerheart?

[young pecan]

Dragons take up huge swathes of land independently

[arctic talon]

is that good lol

[hollow lantern]

Daggerheart yeah

[sacred ginkgo]

Idk

[young pecan]

Ykw I'm not even gonna try to understand the lore of that

[sacred ginkgo]

We stock it but I haven't looked at it

[hollow lantern]

Ive never played it

[young pecan]

Random bullshit go

[hollow lantern]

Ive heard the social aspect is better

[sacred ginkgo]

The lore is that its a republishing of a book for 3.5 whose goal was to include every monster in the monster manual

The actual lore is its prison for evil immortal people

[young pecan]

Ahh okay

That's interesting

[arctic talon]

ngl is daggerheart good

it looks interesting

might be better for my parties and politics players

lol

[hollow lantern]

Ive been told a lot of the social aspects tie into characters or the other way around

Like it anchors you to the world better

Idk one day I'll play in a good dnd campaign

[tough haven]

Again, I’m sure there’s someone here who could run a TTRPG group

[arctic talon]

I would offer to run one for people in this chat

but I have too many things I run

[young pecan]

I was playing in one that the DM was pouring his heart into and then the election happened and I found out who he voted for so

[arctic talon]

srry 💀

[hollow lantern]

Atp I am simply burnt on DMing

[young pecan]

I like the idea of DMing tbh

Just have anxiety about social performance

[hollow lantern]

The singular ttrpg I've gotten to play a character in instead of DMing for in the last actual decade was the one with Eternal

[heady rivet]

I only DMed once and it was literally against my will

[crystal forum]

you played a game with eternal?

[hollow lantern]

Ive talked about it in here a few times

Deathwatch rpg

[crystal forum]

how was it

[hollow lantern]

Guess.

[crystal forum]

bad

[hollow lantern]

Right answer, but you don't win anything for guessing that.

Eternal would argue with the DM for a half hour at a time, we had a other player the DM basicslly built the entire narrative around that didn't learn the basics of the rules after months and was the reason sessions were an hour-two tops, we had another guy who kept making the dumbest possible decisions, and all me and the last player wanted to do was actually play deathwatch rpg.

[sacred ginkgo]

Has anyone here read the Stormlight system

[crystal forum]

what does he sound like

[hollow lantern]

A normal Midwestern American

Eternal is an exceptionally normal person until you talk to him about warhammer

[surreal nest]

Spikey Bits is a chud idk if anybody watched them or read their articles

[crystal forum]

aren't we all

[surreal nest]

Chud detector was fucking blaring

[arctic talon]

This has been known since 2014 lol

[hollow lantern]

Yeah tbh

[surreal nest]

I havent seen anybody say anything here

[arctic talon]

thats because they're not worth talking about

as they are a piece of shit

[surreal nest]

Idk their last youtube short is pretty bad

[hollow lantern]

Okay, stop giving them free publicity then

[surreal nest]

FREE PUBLICITY IS WHEN I CALL PEOPLE FACIST

[arctic talon]

they're already called a facist by most of the wider 40k community

and other

things lol

[surreal nest]

Ive legit never seen this

[hollow lantern]

You're saying what most people have for literally a decade+

[sacred ginkgo]

I don't even know who this is

[hollow lantern]

See?

You've now made someone else aware of their existence

[surreal nest]

Oh my god ok bro

[arctic talon]

its extremely common in like every 40k discord I'm in 💀

which is like 4

also the AoS one I'm in

[surreal nest]

Why the fuck do some of you lack object permanence not discussing things doesnt make them go away

[sacred ginkgo]

In some cases it does

This is one

Internet personalities in general fall under this

[surreal nest]

Its like saying ignoring asmongold makes him go away

[sacred ginkgo]

If they don't do anything actively bad, just ignore them and they wither and die

[arctic talon]

excuse me if I don't want to discuss the same racist facist everyone has been shitting on for every year I've been in the hobby

which is like over 10 years now

[hollow lantern]

Yeah.

[surreal nest]

You dont have to i just discovered rn

We talk about evil content creators all the time

[crystal forum]

knowing the admech, subdermal could just mean they'll stretch the skin to fit over a big lump augment lol

[surreal nest]

The inconspicuous flesh binoculars

[rose thorn]

need ot double check, do the tryanids use your souls for somehting when they eat you?

[crystal forum]

they dont even know what a soul is

[arctic talon]

No

psychophages do something

with it

but it seems to just empower themselves

[rose thorn]

yeah tahts what i was thinking

[arctic talon]

they're psychic creatures

so its likely just empowering itself

after absorbing your soulstuff

[rose thorn]

i know there is a hivefleet thta does shinnanagins with soul stuff

[crystal forum]

arent those genestealers

[rose thorn]

since they are the anti demon hive fleet

[rose thorn]

the patriarch (and other gsc psykers) get thier powers form the connection to the hive mind

which also implies that the hivemind has some link to warp magics but still\

[crystal forum]

dumb af

immune to the warp and can use warp magic

[rose thorn]

i do know the shadow in teh warp specifically blocks soul shenanigans

[rose thorn]

space wolves and eldar do the same thing lmao

[tough haven]

I mean like mantis blades in cyberpunk, something that looks relatively unassuming

not "suspiciously augment shaped arm"

[crystal forum]

what do you mean

[rose thorn]

they both block warp shit but still use warp powers

[crystal forum]

how do space wolves do that

[rose thorn]

they use runes

[crystal forum]

nids straight up jam the warp

[rose thorn]

yeah lmao

[jade holly]

New Necron dropping

[crystal forum]

runes arent the same thing

also all space marines can use runes

[surreal nest]

Made me audibly frown btw

[crystal forum]

in fact everybody can use runes if they know how

[rose thorn]

oh yeah greykngihts are immune to warp corruption

but thats a uh

different case

warp affects*

[crystal forum]

immune to warp corruption doesnt mean they can't get cut in half by a greater demon

[rose thorn]

nids still can die form demons, its just shadow of the warp stops demons froms ending souls to hell or more demons form being summoned

[jade holly]

Hehehe

[rose thorn]

which i think GSC have a similar effect? at least the patriarch does

its mentioned somewhere id have to check

but htey are affected differently

[surreal nest]

How would a necron respond to being tazed

I bet they would die instantly

[crystal forum]

kill you

they would kill you

[surreal nest]

Nope its a really strong tazor

[jade holly]

Prob something along the lines of “Fuck makes you think that’ll work?”

[rose thorn]

take a taser and tase your fridge

[surreal nest]

I did it and my power turned off what now

[rose thorn]

w

[sacred ginkgo]

Would tasing your fridge actually kill your power

[rose thorn]

reminds me of htat french guy who would do like orbies tik toks and hte clogged his entire towns water system

[sacred ginkgo]

Because the outside should be electrically isolated from your wall power

[surreal nest]

I think it depends on the fridge but it sounds unsafe

Idk power is confusing

[crystal forum]

what's the fridge's power level

[surreal nest]

Its a named space marine

[storm jungle]

Shut the fuck up imperial grognard

https://tenor.com/view/slap-rip-rhino-toy-gif-23656797

[surreal nest]

Grognard is fucking insane

[storm jungle]

Lmao im sorry but like

"wah wah wah other factins should NOT have special stuff"

suck my genes loser

[rose thorn]

Every faction gets like 1 or 2 universal bullshits

3 if you are lucky

[storm jungle]

hes an Simperial Guard fan maggie, hes not worth it

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[dapper gyro]

You do tell people to shut up a lot more often lately. You good? Such a change of mood.

[surreal nest]

Dilara has always said shut up and slop since the dawn of time

[storm jungle]

"Change of mood"

[storm jungle]

ive been like this forever

💀

[storm jungle]

[surreal nest]

If I moderated a warhammer discord I would say bad things to good people too

[dapper gyro]

Never say that you never do. It is just for frequent recently.

[crystal forum]

the faction that gets no special writer privileges

except main characters

[rose thorn]

i wonder waht my msot common word is awa

that isnt th e obiosu one

[storm jungle]

Welcome to 40k

[surreal nest]

Ermmmmm astra militarum gets unlimited cadians

[storm jungle]

^

also wins every battle they are in

[crystal forum]

they sure didn't win cadia

[storm jungle]

yeah yet cadians survived

and nothing happened to any of them

lmao

[rose thorn]

well they made ioek 5 different planets into cadia

[surreal nest]

Technically it was a draw

[rose thorn]

i wonder how many brood brothers died in that ocnflict..

[storm jungle]

LOL

[rose thorn]

probbaly none since cadia eugenics is crazy

[crystal forum]

sorry i'm just a fan of the faction that doesn't need any "erm actually my guys can suck the soul out of you and also you can't attack them with warp weapons" shit

[storm jungle]

Then get some better taste you loser

[crystal forum]

yeah we got tanks and men

and im fucking proud of it

[storm jungle]

"erm in a goofy ass sci-fi fantasy setting i just cannot bear this"

[rose thorn]

they are the cthulu faction

its kinda the meme

[storm jungle]

i dont think jay knows what faction differences mean

we need to send him to a boarding school

[crystal forum]

im proud of my faction that wins through sheer determination instead of a god's gift

[storm jungle]

your entire faction is nazis

[jade holly]

Dilara you see the new Necron?

[storm jungle]

i hope they all die in muddy trenches

🙏

[rose thorn]

whos gonna tell him...

[storm jungle]

Mid

[crystal forum]

im proud of a faction that doesnt need ancient tech to destroy planets

im fucking proud of it son

[jade holly]

Can’t believe they shoved Groot through the Biotransference machine

[rose thorn]

whos gonna tell him...

[storm jungle]

^

bro doesnt know his own lore

[jade holly]

actually now that I think about it I don’t actually know what the process of biotransference looks like

Have we ever gotten a visual depiction of it?

[rose thorn]

cadia only survived because of ancient tech lmao

ancient xeno tech*

[celest cedar]

I mean some randoms here do deserve the boot or timeout sometimes if you hang in the other channels

[storm jungle]

They literally just step into fires and burn to death

[crystal forum]

and you know what the best part is? at the end of the day my faction is just like me fr fr. not some fake xenomorph wannabe ass or some marie sue

[jade holly]

No special machines?

[storm jungle]

I mean

its in the name

bio-furnaces

[rose thorn]

what factiopn do you even liek dilaria?

[storm jungle]

lol

[storm jungle]

All of them lmao

[rose thorn]

fair lmao

[heady rivet]

Well the Guard is respectable

[storm jungle]

I think the one im just the most uninformed on is the tau because they dont interest me but i dont hate them.

[jade holly]

Except the Slopmarchs

[storm jungle]

Primarchs arent a faction so

[rose thorn]

i assumed yuou were na imperial agents gamer tbh

[jade holly]

My least interested faction are the Eldar and deldar

[rose thorn]

but thats presentationbias

[jade holly]

They’re just space elves

[storm jungle]

Yeah

[jade holly]

Like the whole Path system the Eldar got are cool

[storm jungle]

Just like how necrons are just space egyptians

[rose thorn]

the faction i liek least is all of the non codex compliant marines

[storm jungle]

No offense but nobody can have any take on a faction they know nothing about imo

[jade holly]

But outside of that their models don’t look that neat to me

[rose thorn]

i dont even hate noraml space marines

[heady rivet]

The only good faction? Jokaero. Pin this post and lock the channel, we're done here.

[jade holly]

Actually I lied Maugan Ra is fucking sick

[rose thorn]

also by association i technicallylike guard

[storm jungle]

I had a friend that hated GSC so I made him read their codexes

and 1 day later he was like

"What the fuck, down with the Imperium I love these bug boys"

[rose thorn]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[surreal nest]

How do you hate GSC

[rose thorn]

AAHAHHAHAHA

[jade holly]

GSC are technically sleeper agents in a way right?

[crystal forum]

i hate the players not the game

[jade holly]

Not in the traditional sense

[storm jungle]

They are literally every sort of revolutionary sect

[jade holly]

But in the sense of laying low until it’s time to act

[sacred ginkgo]

The propaganda worked

[rose thorn]

not understanding the fun of gsc

[arctic talon]

The GSC can be any revolutionary sect you can think of

It’s so fucking fun

[hollow lantern]

The only reason people don't like Eldar is cause they haven't bothered to read them ime

[heady rivet]

Radical Buddhism

[rose thorn]

fanged emperor be blessed

[arctic talon]

You can be extremely evil

[storm jungle]

He was one of these fucking idiots.

[arctic talon]

This person got shit on so hard lol

It was funny

[rose thorn]

lmao

[arctic talon]

Anyways

[crystal forum]

shit on by the 5 gsc players

[arctic talon]

Legalize blasting charges

[rose thorn]

one of the reaosns im trkaing like 3 genetics classes is to make better gsc shitposts

[arctic talon]

💀

[storm jungle]

jay your salt is clogging the channel

[heady rivet]

God I need to lick up some GSC vehicles

[surreal nest]

I love it when people post shit like this and they just get bullied and I get to watch it, belly full

[rose thorn]

youplay necromunda right?

[heady rivet]

Hrm, unfortunate typo

[rose thorn]

you know you can use all of the gsc vehicles in any necromunda gang

[arctic talon]

That’s prolly why they’re buying them

[heady rivet]

Yeah I've been meaning to "Escherfy" a Venator for a while but I refuse to let the pile of shame grow larger for a while

[jade holly]

The one GSC model I like is the funny tri armed gunslinger dude

[heady rivet]

Wrong vehicle I was literally looking at the pile of shame and saw mt Venator and typed it out lole

[rose thorn]

replace the guns with nightshade throwers and strap chem tanks and lepard and zebra print

[crystal forum]

you started it

stop baiting me

[heady rivet]

Meant a ridgerunner

[sacred ginkgo]

That thing was cool in RT for exactly 5 seconds

Then I cut it in half

[rose thorn]

oh eyah even eaiser lmao

[storm jungle]

i didnt start nothing

[arctic talon]

The kellermorph getting gunned down by Argenta

lol

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/kraid-samus-metroid-metroid-dread-lion-gif-3665180798431418891

this is me btw

the left is Jay

[surreal nest]

I loved that game

Such a good boss fight too

What a good game

[heady rivet]

I also wanted to nab a Goliath for the Enforcers

[rose thorn]

OH HEY DDI EDGY PACMAN EVER RELEASE

[surreal nest]

Thank you Metroid Dread

[arctic talon]

Yeah

It was bad

[rose thorn]

NOOOOOOO

I WAS HOPING EDGY PACMAN WAS GOOOD

[surreal nest]

Metroid dread more like metroid so excited to play it

[heady rivet]

Aw man I should derail chat with BedSteak.mp4

[crystal forum]

i will never play a nintendo game again because none of it is affordable

i wish i could

[crystal forum]

i love metroid

[rose thorn]

literally warhammer is cheaper than videogames now lmao

[surreal nest]

Ehhhh just second hand that shit

Everybody buys Nintendo games then sells them

[rose thorn]

i dont know hwy they are charging bsae off of playtime liek a fuckin audiobook lmao

[crystal forum]

even half price is like way too much

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/iwata-reggie-fight-smash-bros-super-smash-bros-gif-13259142

ngl its more like this whenever I see it

[surreal nest]

Metroid dread was worth every cent thats all I will say!

Also enjoying Mario odyssey but it feels like a slimy redditor game

Like huzzah this fat pervert can do 3 flips cool

[crystal forum]

legit the only nintendo series i care about

[rose thorn]

on a ismialr note i kinda wanna get into persona, my friend is showign em another gam eseries that got people nargy on twitter so iw ont mention

[crystal forum]

i got metroid prime as a kid

now i simp for blondes

though not women....

[rose thorn]

i might get persona 3 portable

[heady rivet]

Nintendo games are entirely not in my view because I refuse to buy an entirely new console just for them

[sacred ginkgo]

Persona is fun

[rose thorn]

whast taht one game that was similar to perosna

[sacred ginkgo]

Get reload p3p is a bad place to start

[rose thorn]

it was like atlus something somethign smoething

[rose thorn]

i played 2 for a bit but swapped ocmputers and lost my save

[surreal nest]

Oh legit u gotta get dread then

[rose thorn]

YEAH

METAPHOR LMAO

[surreal nest]

The recent remake they did was sick too

The first person one

[sacred ginkgo]

Do metaphor last if you want to play through persona

It is genuinely so much better

[crystal forum]

what remake

[surreal nest]

Idk

[rose thorn]

damn oka!

let me check persona stats real quikc so i can see if i can run it legally*

[surreal nest]

Oh metroid prime

[sacred ginkgo]

My freak ass recommended order of play is 5r -> 4g -> 3r-> metaphor

[rose thorn]

ive also been reallty getting into murder mystery games lately

[sacred ginkgo]

p4g

[surreal nest]

Like multi-player games or like actual puzzle games

[sacred ginkgo]

P4 is a murder mystery for like

Most of it

[crystal forum]

i wish i had the energy to do all the hobbies i want to convince myself to do

[rose thorn]

puzzle games

holy optimized

[surreal nest]

Oh my dumbass was thinking of trouble in terrorist town or werewolf or some shit

[crystal forum]

maybe i should become asexual and channel all my horny energy into hobbies

i hear it works for them

[rose thorn]

l;mao

[surreal nest]

Gotta get a copy of fallout New Vegas at this point

Get two

[rose thorn]

or be horny and asexual

[crystal forum]

that's every ace i've met

[rose thorn]

(aka become a tumblr user)

LMAO

[sacred ginkgo]

new vegas all in is 20 doubloons

[rose thorn]

literally just pirate videogames

[sacred ginkgo]

and you can catch it on sale for less

[surreal nest]

New vegas fans after I poke them in the ribs with a pitchfork

[crystal forum]

new vegas fans when the show references glub shitto

[rose thorn]

i love nv but holy shit the old obsidian team is os annoying on twitter lmao

[celest cedar]

NV fans unironically are the most annoying

[surreal nest]

Spit me some details what do these fools spout out

[rose thorn]

there is some guy apart of the old team who only makes fallut doomer posts

[rose thorn]

fr'

[rose thorn]

"bethesda HATES fallout"

[arctic talon]

but I like nv

[rose thorn]

"last tiem iw as there they werent planning to release another fallout game for 20 years"

[arctic talon]

smh

[crystal forum]

slop eaters when they can't differentiate slop from peak

[rose thorn]

"gaming is dead"

[arctic talon]

also jokes aside bethesda saved Fallout lol

remember

the last fallout game

[rose thorn]

"bethesda is a dyign company"

[crystal forum]

it is

[rose thorn]

shit liek that

[arctic talon]

pre bethesda

w

[crystal forum]

bethesda is literally dying

[arctic talon]

who wants BAWLS

[surreal nest]

You ever see one of the developers for the OG god of war? They complain that new Kratos is an effeminate push over and nobody cares about emotions in video games lmfao

[rose thorn]

i get he is mad because he didnt get his bonus

but that was litearlly over 20 years gao

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Peak game

/j

[sacred ginkgo]

MF hes just old

[rose thorn]

OH YEAHH

[crystal forum]

that was 2010's bethesda

[surreal nest]

Not even a developer btw the creator of God of War

[arctic talon]

drink up some BAWLS

[lament shoal]

Don't let them hear you say that, they'll throw a tantrum and somehow find a way to bring up how fallout 4 sucks for the billionth time

[arctic talon]

I have played fallout brotherhood of steel

I did not finish it

it is awful

I've finished every other fallout game

lol

[rose thorn]

LMAOOOO

[arctic talon]

Fallout 4's story is meh

[rose thorn]

everyone who says fallout 3 is thier favorite is the chillest mf ever

[arctic talon]

but the game itself is fine

tbh

[surreal nest]

I didnt like fallout 4 until I heard somebody describe the game's theme and design as "hopeful" and then I realized how well they did that

[arctic talon]

Anyways every fallout game after 1 is lowkey ass lol

/j

[rose thorn]

you can have alot of fun wiht fallout 4s story if you really jsut go with it

[rose thorn]

sounds right

[celest cedar]

I deadass would rather play FO4 than FNV. That game's gameplay suck ass

[celest cedar]

they did companions better too

[surreal nest]

The color pallete of fallout 4 is pretty awesome

[arctic talon]

we're getting Fallout 3 and NV remastered

which is gona be fun

[dark moon]

Them’s fighting words.

[arctic talon]

Fallout 4 is pretty

[crystal forum]

if you hit your head with a sledgehammer you can also enjoy paint drying mag

[rose thorn]

alot of 4's story is really carried and fixed by external media like wateladn warfare and the boardgames

[arctic talon]

anyone who says it isn't pretty is on meth

[celest cedar]

if the remastered has better gameplay I would play

[arctic talon]

that doesn't change it still being bleh

imo

[surreal nest]

Fo4 story sucks undeniably but their theming and world building is great

[arctic talon]

In a vaccum it is bleh to bad

[crystal forum]

the board games that came out like a decade later?

[arctic talon]

every faction is underdeveloped

[rose thorn]

yeah i said that as a con against fallout 4

[dark moon]

I should play New Vegas again one of these days.

[arctic talon]

I also dislike some other decisions in fallout 4

[lament shoal]

Rebuilding the minutemen to bring hope and safety back to the commonwealth is peak

[arctic talon]

but those mostly stem from bethesda not sticking to that shit

they really should have stuck

to some of their ideas

[crystal forum]

mag why do you want 4 to be good so badly

[arctic talon]

rather then backing out

[surreal nest]

I really dont care about new vegas and I never understood the hype

[arctic talon]

and being afraid of alienating people

[lament shoal]

Also I love how using power armor in the game makes you feel unstoppable

[arctic talon]

has the most indepth RPG story of any of the fallout games is about it

lol

[rose thorn]

i think its underrated im not saying its the best game omfg

[arctic talon]

also

it plays better then fallout 3

[rose thorn]

its just my faovrite fallout

[arctic talon]

like in terms of raw gameplay

it is a better version of fallout 3

objectively

[sacred ginkgo]

I don't like power armor

[rose thorn]

yeah

[surreal nest]

My evil opinion is that I enjoyed 3 more than NV 💀

[crystal forum]

every reason you give for it being good is just horrible im sorry

[rose thorn]

tghats valid

[arctic talon]

like the gameplay 💀

you're insane

lowkey lol

[rose thorn]

whta reason????????

[arctic talon]

but thats fine lol

[surreal nest]

Ok well no gameplay wise new vegas and 3 are terrible

[rose thorn]

i said the boardgame thing as a CON agaisnt the story lmao

[arctic talon]

I respect the opinion

lol

[surreal nest]

Some of the least fun games ive ever played

[arctic talon]

that you enjoy fallout 3

[surreal nest]

Unironically

[arctic talon]

fallout 3's story is like ass lol

Pitt is great

[daring creek]

We should let eachother enjoy things

[arctic talon]

no

[crystal forum]

no

[arctic talon]

kill eachother over minor disagreements

[surreal nest]

I loved the fallout 3 settlements a lot though

[dark moon]

Fallout 3 was eh imo, New Vegas was better.

[rose thorn]

the mian story is pretty bad after 1 playthrough but for some reason tehy cooked hard as fuck for eveyrthign elser

[lament shoal]

Pain train is so fucking fun lol

[celest cedar]

the core memory of Fallout 3 when I played it is me just wandering while blasting Audioslave in the background and thats about it

[crystal forum]

that's 4

[daring creek]

Throwing my own words back in my face 🥀

[arctic talon]

ngl

[surreal nest]

No like

[rose thorn]

peak

[arctic talon]

my big issue with fallout 4

[surreal nest]

The cities

[arctic talon]

is that Bethesda did not commit

to their fucking plans

at all

[arctic talon]

gameplay wise

[surreal nest]

I just used settlement as a word for NPC cities

[arctic talon]

They really needed

[rose thorn]

yeah thats the literal man thing that holds the entire gmae back

[lament shoal]

Dilara type response