#40k-lore-chat

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arctic talon
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was the same year

wary fulcrum
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Of of the first death of US servicemen in the European theatre was a black soldier killed by US mp’s because British pubs refused to segregate

daring creek
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Were they gathering Japanese people in camps because they thought there were spies among the population?

heady rivet
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Same country that didnt think the Irish and Italians were White btw. America has been dominated politically by WASPs (White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant)

dark moon
arctic talon
dark moon
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So 1945

arctic talon
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And yeah

plush mason
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yeah between the Nazis working to spread other Nazi parties around the world and the extreme isolationism there was a moment where the US might have even been an ally of the Axis powers

arctic talon
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it was after peral harbor

rocky gale
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People forget how much influence the Nazis were putting into the US before WW2

daring creek
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ooooh.

arctic talon
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yeah

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the American Nazi party was like

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actually politically relevant

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as was the British one

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ect.

heady rivet
plush mason
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just like in WW1 the main thing that lead us to back the allies was money

arctic talon
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also

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Japan

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lol

plush mason
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that got us into the war outright

arctic talon
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Japan attacking pearl harbor killed any chance of the US joining the Axis powers

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during WW2

heady rivet
# heady rivet Correct. A major contributing incident that FDR cites for this is when a Japanes...

The Niʻihau incident occurred on December 7–13, 1941, when the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service pilot Shigenori Nishikaichi (西開地 重徳, Nishikaichi Shigenori) crash-landed on the Hawaiian island of Niʻihau after participating in the attack on Pearl Harbor. The Imperial Japanese Navy had mistakenly designated Niʻihau as an uninhabit...

arctic talon
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The US was selling to the Germans and Italians

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less then Britian

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but the US was selling

daring creek
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just commodities in general or weapons?

rocky gale
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Like there was a period in the 30s where the US considered the greatest threat at the time was the British control of Canada, not the Nazis.

arctic talon
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well

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the japanese americans harboring the pilot

heady rivet
wary fulcrum
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My grandad was one of the boats we leased

When we returned it, after the war, the crew got confined the their ship because they kept fighting the US soldiers over the fact two couples had been lynched off a bridge nearby

My grandad and his friends couldn’t understand how they’d all lost friends da trying to stop specifically that process

arctic talon
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the husband was like

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the only one heavily in on it

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iirc

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but the Interment camps were very much racist lol

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and a majority of the people sent didn't harbor any loyalty to the Japanese Government

heady rivet
arctic talon
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prolly like 99%

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Yeah

heady rivet
heady rivet
arctic talon
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and a lot of the people sent never got their land or houses back

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or property

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ect.

heady rivet
# heady rivet They had soldiers *from* the camps

The 442nd Infantry Regiment was an infantry regiment of the United States Army. The regiment including the 100th Infantry Battalion is best known as the most decorated unit in U.S. military history, and as a fighting unit composed almost entirely of second-generation American soldiers of Japanese ancestry (Nisei) who fought in World War II. Begi...

arctic talon
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the one state on the west coast least effected by the internment camps

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was ironically hawaii

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because way too much of the population had Japanese ancestry

heady rivet
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My mom used to live in Hawaii and her job was to be a pretty Blonde American woman for Japanese businessmen on vacation to drink with alwayrember

arctic talon
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for the US to even try doing it the way they had in California/Oregon/Washington(state)

heady rivet
daring creek
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Oh shit

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Interesting.

rocky gale
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and then the after war period where quite a few GI's returns from the Pacific with Asian wives and faced constant harassment because people just assumed they were Japanese

rocky gale
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They were quite a few Japanese wives later when people stationed in Japan after the war ended started to return a couple years later, but a lot of the earlier ones were from other East Asian and Pacific island countries

heady rivet
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Shoutout to that time the Aussies rioted because the American men were too popular with women (Among other reasons but point and laugh)

languid meadow
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the battle in the UK that was racist GIs vs Black US troops and UK MPs

valid needle
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Prided themselves on immigration? Whilst they still had segregation and whilst they were equally prejudice against their Irish people?

heady rivet
languid meadow
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Irish people werent "white" until the 40s

valid needle
heady rivet
valid needle
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even today just look at how Irish Americans are portrayed in television and movies, scruffy, dirty, drunks. It’s still very apparent.

rocky gale
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It's also in a lot of little phrases people don't even think about like "Irish Goodbye"

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Which if you've ever met an Irish person you'll know is not something we do

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Saying goodbye as an Irish person is a 9 step process

heady rivet
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Perfidious Albion strikes again

rocky gale
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It's an American invention actually I think

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The English used to call it a French Exit, while in French it translated to "Leave as the English do"

heady rivet
quasi temple
languid meadow
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Image for the earlier convo we had around GW

plush mason
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it really shows how the stock market actually works that they posted record half year profits and their stock still went down 3%

quasi temple
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Economics makes no sense

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Disliked the class, dislike the subject.

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Everything always seems to be a "well, actually.." kind of answer

plush mason
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it does once you learn that its all bullshit speculation trading and barely disguised money laundering at least as far as the stock market goes

storm jungle
fervent geode
winter pine
plush mason
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yup

fervent geode
winter pine
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Just don't pretend the post-ww2 order is over and AI is bullshit no one wants, the number will keep going up if we don't say anything

arctic talon
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Stock market isn’t really real lol

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It’s very fake

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Actual economics makes sense

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In terms of

crystal forum
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you can call it fake but it will still affect your life

arctic talon
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When people want stuff

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More stuff is made

heady rivet
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The US economy is 8 companies moving the same billion dollars that dont exist around

arctic talon
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So learn the basics of the extra fancy slot machine and gamble

fervent geode
plush mason
fervent geode
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So ueah

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It did kinda make sense

heady rivet
arctic talon
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If you have a stock market you have a bunch of “fake” money that’s real

plush mason
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frankly stock trading hasnt been an actual part of economics for like 20 years

arctic talon
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It isn’t

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It’s basically its own thing

plush mason
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yup

arctic talon
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You can use it as your own degenerate casino to print out cash if you want

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It’s what I do

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It’s also what my parents do

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💀

heady rivet
crystal forum
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it's what most people who want long term investments do wolf

arctic talon
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Yeah

arctic talon
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It’s just as degenerate as every other one

plush mason
arctic talon
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But the Chinese government puts their finger on the scale sometimes lol

winter pine
crystal forum
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if you want to play roulette you gotta do way more volatile investments like crypto

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now that's where the addiction is

arctic talon
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Also yeah the stock market isn’t good for instant return

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If you want instant return you do crypto shit or actual gambling

winter pine
heady rivet
plush mason
fervent geode
arctic talon
plush mason
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note by instant i mean return within the same quarter they invested in

winter pine
arctic talon
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Deng deadass turned China into what it is now lol

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To think he almost got executed

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💀

fervent geode
arctic talon
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Wonder how that would have went

winter pine
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I'm fascinated with Deng because he was so good at building up China

fervent geode
winter pine
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Like in terms of modern head of a nation he's top 5 at least, right?

fervent geode
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They killed his buddy Liu Shaoqi and he was next

arctic talon
arctic talon
plush mason
arctic talon
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But uh I don’t like him very much for other reasons

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lol

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🇹🇼

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Anyways jokes aside Deng did like an infinitely better job then Mao

fervent geode
winter pine
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Xi Jingping on his way to piss away whatever advantage he might have from the great satan's collapse

heady rivet
arctic talon
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He got buried alive

fervent geode
fervent geode
arctic talon
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Unsurprising LOL

heady rivet
fervent geode
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This man is a poet

arctic talon
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Chinese warlord era

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Is highly entertaining

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It’s also a horrid period of time

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But it’s so interesting

winter pine
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Warhammer 40k lore when actual Chinese history walks in the room

heady rivet
fervent geode
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Its when any sicko in a uniform with some experience could potentially become a warlord like its spring and autumn period again

arctic talon
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Yeah

heady rivet
crystal forum
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history could have gone so differently if one warlord or another did things slightly differently

fervent geode
heady rivet
# fervent geode I recall when the garrison of a city being sieged by rebels in the an lushan reb...

The siege of Suiyang was a military campaign during the An Lushan rebellion, launched by the rebel Yan army to capture the city of Suiyang from forces loyal to the Tang dynasty. Although the battle was ultimately won by the Yan army, it suffered major attrition of manpower and time. The siege was noted for the Tang army's determination to fight ...

arctic talon
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Wrong period

fervent geode
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But still

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I also recall when the huanghe dams got breached and flooded to deny japan easy times and keep them out of sichuan

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That was in 1938

crystal forum
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can i say how much i despise how many subscription services exist

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i have to get like 10 different add ons just to watch a movie

fervent geode
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It sucks yeah

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I gave up

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All thats left of my subscriptions is like spotify premium

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Basically all the companies now want exclusives for their platform so you throw money at them

dark moon
winter pine
tough haven
crystal forum
tough haven
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Idk I just blindly post memes without fact checking as an agent of chaos

arctic talon
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@crystal forum

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on page 4

fervent geode
arctic talon
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also We have also agreed we will be maintaining a strong commitment to protect our intellectual property and respect our human creators. In the period reported, we continued to invest in our Warhammer Studio - hiring more creatives in multiple disciplines from concepting and art to writing and sculpting. Talented and passionate individuals that make Warhammer the rich, evocative IP that our hobbyists and we all love.

fervent geode
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Honestly good work james, hope they stick to it

crystal forum
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i wonder what reason they have for this

fervent geode
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Well ppl being happy and buying stuff so big money and good PR leading to more money

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The anti AI pushback has made some companies actually think about this

crystal forum
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i doubt that's the reason when it comes to GW

fervent geode
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Which is good because even if its all money in their mind its saving creative jobs

winter pine
fervent geode
crystal forum
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they do straight up say it's for IP reasons which makes sense since IP ownership is muddled when AI is involved

fervent geode
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Maybe everyone at hames genuinely hates abominable intelligencechadgryn

fervent geode
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Its an issue everywhere

crystal forum
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GW might just want to be 100% sure they legally own the models they have

fervent geode
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Makes sense

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Either way, whatever motives they had im glad this happened

arctic talon
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They already banned AI anything at golden demon

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No AI background art for dioramas and stuff

heady rivet
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It helps that literally every other company using AI has been repeatedly (and rightfully) given shit for it, always called "slop", etc

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Someone earloer saod just the act of saying you dont use it is great PR

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Plus GW actually values artists LainWao

crisp heath
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dawg

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my nvidia drivber updated by itself out of nowhere

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i genuinely believed my pc died mid game and it was just the driver

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what the fuck

heady rivet
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Which is to say my computer blewd up

crisp heath
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it's not the first time it happened either

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hopefully it isnt palantir stealing all my porn data

crisp heath
crystal forum
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for national security reasons

crisp heath
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You won't like them.

quasi temple
heady rivet
crisp heath
spare osprey
opaque coyote
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He just like me

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He just like me fr

languid meadow
opaque coyote
dark moon
opaque coyote
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Also I just realized that it's likely that the reason why Vortigaunts are the cooks in the resistance

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Is probably because they likely already know how to prepare Xen wildlife

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Hell, it's probably an improvement for them to be with the resistance

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Also yeah, during the elevator ride down Black Mesa East. You can Vortigaunts wearing chef hats cooking a headcrab

spare osprey
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Galunga!

honest trellis
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yeah in the way a slaughterhouse values pigs

shadow plover
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if you are referring them not crediting their artists (which sucks) there's a reason for it, they stopped crediting any creatives by name after people got very shitty about Matt Wards codex writing, at least that's what most people think is the reason, we've of course never heard this being confirmed by themselves

honest trellis
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let's be real, they're not heartbroken about not having another duncan, nor have they improved with the litany of creatives they either fired for standing up to fash or drove off (Reynolds)

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Or for that matter the studio model designers themselves...

shadow plover
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First time I've heard them firing creatives

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or like, I'm sure that has happened for some reason or other myriad of times across the years but you know

crystal forum
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i was under the impression that GW sculpters are all like 30 years into their career

honest trellis
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The one that did the solar auxilia storm sculpt resculpts and some necromunda was not a fan of how his work was treated

glass drum
rocky gale
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Can't have the government finding out what you jork it to

winter pine
crisp heath
glass drum
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Definitely stealing corn data is 100% what their after

storm jungle
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hand it over

glass drum
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pretty much everywhere

storm jungle
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Yeah idk why people expect corporations to be honest

glass drum
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No such thing as Data privacy

storm jungle
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Yeah its why I laugh when people are like

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"GRRR THIS ONE SPECIFIC COMPANY STEALS MY DATA"

rose thorn
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Guys

glass drum
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Honestly...some people just wanna be heard ig

rose thorn
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Furries are now canon

storm jungle
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💀

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STOP IT.

glass drum
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Brothers

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I havent seen depictions of Beastmen in 40k but i just recently read it in Son of the Forest that they've existed since GC era

storm jungle
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They literally had a killteam

glass drum
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then again my lore isnt that big

storm jungle
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ban this guy

glass drum
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Oh they do?
I dont own or buy the table top models either KEKW_ogryn

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I do like the books

storm jungle
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I mean

glass drum
storm jungle
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I dont either

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but I know they exist

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Anyway look here

heady rivet
glass drum
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Yeh my lore isnt as vast

storm jungle
shadow plover
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beastmen should be forgotten and die in a ditch

heady rivet
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The 3 people that like Beastmen loved that KT

storm jungle
queen laurel
storm jungle
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"I will not fufill ANY of my promises to you if I become president."

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Chad.

glass drum
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Yeah i definitely havent seen alot of these guys KEKW_ogryn

heady rivet
shadow plover
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Beastmen have had one cool depiction and it was in the early Gotrek & Felix books

glass drum
shadow plover
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no it's a kitbash

storm jungle
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Its... a dog

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A dogman if you will

glass drum
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Look like someone just combined a servitor and a dog

storm jungle
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wdym "servitor" 💀

rose thorn
glass drum
heady rivet
storm jungle
storm jungle
vagrant fox
heady rivet
glass drum
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Some lore ik are just from lore videos lmao

rose thorn
glass drum
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Age of Sigmar?

rose thorn
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And some xenos stuff

storm jungle
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jesus christ

rose thorn
storm jungle
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what an awful intro into the setting

heady rivet
rose thorn
storm jungle
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30k literally has nothing to do with modern 40k

heady rivet
glass drum
storm jungle
heady rivet
storm jungle
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30k prepares you for like nothing in 40k

heady rivet
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Alright here's what you're gonna do

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You're gonna pick up Eisenhorn

glass drum
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This one

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Well i am liking it so far

storm jungle
# glass drum

I GAVE THAT BECAUSE I ASSUMED YOU ALREADY KNEW 40K STUFF

rose thorn
# storm jungle No?

When I was getting into 40K faction books it suggested “oh the top warhammer 40K books

Fulgrim
Etc etc

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You can guess

storm jungle
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theres 40k ones next to them as well

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this isnt a "source" its a random store maggie 💀

rose thorn
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LMAO

glass drum
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Oh generally like 30k transition to 40k is definitely from lore vids 🤣

rose thorn
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It was some fuck ass website for book reviews

glass drum
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Think tbh i've started getiting into 40k staff maybe 6 months now

rose thorn
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I now just type a faction name into Apple Books and find one I like

glass drum
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Lore is pretty crazy

glass drum
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EC pre-heresy were cooler

shadow plover
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I mean it's not inherently wrong to start with 30k, you'll just miss a lot of the nuance of the world in general

glass drum
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Well i do like to learn how it got to 40k first too imo

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So taking my time

shadow plover
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a friend of mine did the same and it has been pretty fun to listen to his theories and ideas what might happen along the way without any proper knowledge of the 40k universe

storm jungle
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Thats the thing though

heady rivet
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My go-to suggestion for 40k starts is always gonna be like, Eisenhorn as a great intro in. Even the Ciaphas Cain books are better for 40k than any 30k book. 30k works better as a retrospective, almost. But Eisenhorn, while being great, is really "Babys first 40k", its like the Batman Year 1 of 40k book suggestions. Or more like Long Halloween

storm jungle
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the HH doesnt really cover the main parts of 40k like at all

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it took us 51 books for it to be finally over

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now only the NEW Scouring series is covering the transition to 40k

rose thorn
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40K books I suggest

Assassin kingmaker
Luther
Lords of silence
Day of ascension
Spear of the emperor

AOS books I suggest

Almsot any of them
Dominion (good lore intro)
Beast grave
Godeater’s son (read this much later)
Dark harvest
Skaventide

heady rivet
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HH is a fun side thing for Astartes fans

storm jungle
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^

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its superhero slop media

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it doesnt cover ANYTHING of the Imperium's transition to 40k

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like, at all

rose thorn
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Lmao

storm jungle
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minus maybe like the webway project and the astronomican?

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thats literally all i can think of it lol

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the actual transition shit is all in teh scouring and that just has 1 book rn

heady rivet
glass drum
rose thorn
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Can’t wait to stop hearing about hytale in like 2 weeks

heady rivet
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What is that

storm jungle
rocky gale
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Warhammer has too much lore for one to learn, you must simply be born with the innate genetic memory in which it is stored

storm jungle
rose thorn
storm jungle
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Yeah uh ill stick to Minecraft i think

heady rivet
glass drum
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Make minecraft great again

shadow plover
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should I know what is the hypixel team

heady rivet
storm jungle
shadow plover
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map makers for what

storm jungle
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also redstone techpriests

glass drum
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Idk if its official i heard notch? is planning MC2?

shadow plover
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ah

storm jungle
rose thorn
storm jungle
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hes also like a transphobe asshole so

rocky gale
glass drum
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Oh lol

shadow plover
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Notch is a turbo loser

heady rivet
glass drum
storm jungle
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yeah MC is not going anywhere because the game is great as it is

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like- theres no need for a "sequel" lmao

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its one of THE most successful video games in human history

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like unironically lol

heady rivet
glass drum
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Best sandbox game anyway

storm jungle
celest dome
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What ever they do in a MC2, it'll end up worse than just updating MC

glass drum
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Endless possibilities

storm jungle
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tho i do love the new shit they usually add

rose thorn
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My favorite part is seeing streamers play the game and they are like “woah- I did not see that guy coming” and then talking about the most basic game play elements

heady rivet
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Making 2 mobs and then saying "You can only have one" for literally 0 reason was peak dripfeeding

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Tbf

storm jungle
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Nah thats shit yeah

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but they also made amazing stuff

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the cave updates for one example

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i love going to the depths of literal hell

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: )

glass drum
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RL craft best mod|
fight me

storm jungle
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auuuuugh

heady rivet
storm jungle
glass drum
rose thorn
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The old mob vote mobs

storm jungle
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Yeah im glad they did that shit

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i remember when the game had like 20 mobs

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now its like 70+

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Peak

glass drum
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Saw the new baby modes tho

storm jungle
crisp heath
storm jungle
crisp heath
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Hope they cry at what they find

storm jungle
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Voltz memories

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nuclear armageddon in MC is peak

heady rivet
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This kills the cow

storm jungle
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💀 💀 💀

glass drum
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Ish's social experiment videos are actually pretty peak too

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recent one

shadow plover
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me when they get me

storm jungle
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BRUH

rocky gale
heady rivet
rocky gale
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Her eyelashes are fierce though

shadow plover
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awfully specific

storm jungle
rocky gale
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Her eyebrows too

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Who's this cows stylist?

storm jungle
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STOP IT

glass drum
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What?

rocky gale
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I'm not the one who made the cow so glam

rose thorn
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Glad to see cell theory exists in AOS

glass drum
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AoS & wh40k are in the same universe right?

rose thorn
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They are utterly unrelated they just share khorne nurgle Slaanesh and tzeenthc

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Otherwise they have zero connections

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Age of sigmar is an extremely high fantasy post apocalypse (times 4) setting

celest dome
storm jungle
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Cacti do not start

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and muddle up the goddamn topic lmao

celest dome
rose thorn
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In lore 90% of people are servants of chaos

celest dome
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Let me be the chaosy imp that I deserve to be

rose thorn
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for context warhammer 40K originally existed in a snow globe in nagash’s office but that was retconned

celest dome
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Not a snowglobe

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Also not Nagash's office

glass drum
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So AoS has giant rats and talking dinosaurs?

sleek vale
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Hi

celest dome
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But a bottle in a Wizard's Tower

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But not what I was gonna speak about

sleek vale
celest dome
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Go dig a trench

sleek vale
celest dome
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Then go sleep in it

sleek vale
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I am currently digging a trench while besieging a single house

sleek vale
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For I am the finest Kriegsman

sleek vale
storm jungle
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also having read the books thats what Horus did to him instead lol

sleek vale
storm jungle
celest dome
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The 2 material realities are separated.
The 2 Magic realms (Realm of Soul >< Warp) are separated.
This is the only thing that matter.
But outside of it, the different setting are part of a multi-verse, and Chaos basically invade the Magic realm then the material ones

storm jungle
sleek vale
storm jungle
celest dome
storm jungle
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take the roleplaying to gen-chat

sleek vale
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I’m not even roleplaying I’m joking bro 💔😭

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Holy lock in

storm jungle
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Are you alright? 💀

sleek vale
celest dome
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No staregryn

storm jungle
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No lol

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"heresy" and "muh emperor" and "krieg" jokes are like 2012 humor bro, i need you to lock in

sleek vale
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Boooooorrrriiiiiinnnnnngggggg

sleek vale
storm jungle
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lol

sleek vale
forest orbit
storm jungle
celest dome
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Krieg fans truly are one and the same

heady rivet
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He's even dying on a pointless hill he's a FANTASTIC Krieger

forest orbit
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I do love the transition of

Comes in
Says unfunny LARP memes
"HEHEHOHO DONT HATE ME GUYS HEHEHOHO"

storm jungle
sleek vale
rocky gale
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We're a very aggressive people

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And highly territorial

sleek vale
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💔

heady rivet
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Like the noble Great Ape

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We will tear you asunder

celest dome
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Is it really us that are aggressive when the 2nd comment is just standard "Heresy" accusing ?

sleek vale
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Man dare dabble in pleasure for but a moment and he is to be struck down

raven stone
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This has been happening quite a bit lately…

sleek vale
raven stone
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lol

rocky gale
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Soccer ball? Kill him

sleek vale
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I forget I am surrounded by Europeans in this server

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Well I should say the entire world outside USA

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But mostly just Europeans

dapper gyro
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And? You want Americans to be treated differently?

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Btw, your nickname for this server is the most antithesis to the Krieg of 40K. Fake fan.

storm jungle
celest dome
shadow plover
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Americans should be treated differently (worse)

quasi temple
dapper gyro
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Among the regulars, kind of. There are more as well, but they never say anything about their origin. Though, with some pattern on their convo, they are pretty sure to be Americans.

heady rivet
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How that message felt

storm jungle
rocky gale
# quasi temple Only 4 others besides me?

Oh you asked the stages of saying goodbye as an Irish person, so first you sort of make sounds like you're about to get up, like an exhale of breath or muttering "boys a dear" your host should pick up on this and say "suppose you should be heading off" at which point you look at your watch/clock/phone and go "is that the time" and mention how long you've been chatting etc, you then make your excuses for what needs to be done and why you've to go and make your first goodbye, you'd then stand up and begin to leave, they go with you while still talking to you, you will potentially mention seeing them again soon and will stop at the door where you will remember something you meant to say and you'll discuss it for a few minutes before saying "now I really must go" and saying goodbye again, they will then open the door and you'll step out and have a wee chat again, they'll also leave the house and stand outside with you while chatting some more and then finally you'll say one final goodbye as you leave, while they stand waiting, then as you get in your car to drive off you'll turn around and look at them, they'll still be standing there and you wave and call out "bye" they will do the same and then and only then will you leave, they will watch you leave while waving and only after you've left will they go back inside and close the door

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This process can take anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour

dapper gyro
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It happens a lot with my group of co-workers.

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An hour is kind of the standard

rocky gale
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The jist is essentially the guest is instilling that they don't want to leave and are only doing so because they have to, while the host is acknowledging that they don't want to leave but accepting they need to and insisting that they wish they could stay as well but can't

vagrant fox
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Work more or less the same at home

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Someone goes ajú or nå and then talking goes on for another 15 minutes and then leaving takes another 45 minutes

sleek vale
outer wave
near wasp
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A fellow American but he's a kriegs man fanAku

rocky gale
crystal forum
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damn if only the thing made by british people had more americans involved

languid meadow
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HATE

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Also

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New episode is pretty good

crystal forum
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also hot take but patriotism is gay in a metaphysical sense

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a country is nothing more than a vague concept created by the aristocrats of old so the peasants would fight for them

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also americans are sub human

storm jungle
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the thing is it can very easily veer towards jingoism (aka most of America rn lol)

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imo theres a difference

quasi temple
crystal forum
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i think you have to make a difference between being proud of culture and being proud of the country you live in

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i don't think patriotism is in any way good for anything

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and pride is an easily exploitable feeling

languid meadow
quasi temple
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Well I've often been confused about the difference.

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Lots of people seem to use country and nation interchangeably

crystal forum
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no, patriotism is related to a country or state

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you cant be patriotic about your culture

young pecan
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Reminds me of how some people in the US actually get in the military to "serve the country" instead of grabbing free education and a bunch of money to set you up

outer wave
young pecan
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The only thing you're serving is children to landmines bro 💔

quasi temple
crystal forum
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notice how ads for the army are always about shit like helping during environmental crisis

young pecan
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As long as you learn that's the important part tbh

crystal forum
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as if helping people is the main purpose of the guys running around with guns

young pecan
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Making it ACTUALLY look like CoD LMAO

crystal forum
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that's when they're being actually honest at least

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here the ads are all about the scenery you'll see and the friends you'll make in the army like it's a vacation

quasi temple
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Most American military service results in bouts of intense training followed by very long periods of boredom

young pecan
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Try not to frag challenge difficulty impossible

languid meadow
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it's weird

crystal forum
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i've seen it in the US too

quasi temple
crystal forum
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i've seen some pretty hard cope from ex army guys talking about how the experiences made the whole thing worth it

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as if you can't make friends at a normal job

quasi temple
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Thats part of what gets people to go back

humble shoal
quasi temple
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Especially combat guys. Lots of them have trouble adjusting to a different workplace culture

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Bonus points if they joined the job at a younger age

humble shoal
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There are also the people in the USS mercy that literally go around the world giving medical care.

quasi temple
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Anyone seen The Hurt Locker? Kind of like that

crystal forum
humble shoal
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And a couple other jobs that arent murdering people

crystal forum
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like sure it's something they can do

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but it's a military

humble shoal
humble shoal
quasi temple
crystal forum
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the main point of USS mercy is to help the US military

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it's not some benevolent force of good

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it exists to serve the war machine just like the rest of the military

humble shoal
quasi temple
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But at ita head sits the God Emperor of Manki- i mean the presiden- i mean that one guy

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LISAN AL-GAIB

humble shoal
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But still helps people shrug

crystal forum
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during a time of war i can guarantee you its beds will not be used by civilians

humble shoal
rocky gale
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Id unironically buy this

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Peak

crystal forum
humble shoal
crystal forum
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you said it was inefficient

humble shoal
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No I said the national guard was faster

dapper gyro
quasi temple
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Military Industrial Complex for the lose

humble shoal
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Because they are under local control, instead of federal

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Its not an efficiency thing its a distance thing

crystal forum
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there could be local things is what im telling you

humble shoal
quasi temple
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I think their point is that we use a military outfit for disaster relief when other countries have organizations independent of their militaries that do the same

humble shoal
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Like we just have both

quasi temple
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The fact that we use the national guard evokes certain questions though, questions which can't be invalidated by "ita the American way"

humble shoal
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Not to mention a military is likely to help out with a natural disaster anyways, because they have manpower that can help

dapper gyro
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Many countries use the military for disaster assist.

quasi temple
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Perhaps Im missing the point too then

dapper gyro
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Look at all of the countries with high number of storms.

crystal forum
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japan doesn't afaik

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and they have very good disaster relief

humble shoal
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No?

dapper gyro
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All of the SEA countries deploy their militaries during storms.

languid meadow
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Militaries have been used for disaster relief for millennia which makes sense, having a reserve of well bodied people who can do stuff in a coordinated manner helps with that

quasi temple
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So is the point that the US leveraging he zeitgeist for its military by using it for disaster relief produces incorrect ideas of patriotism, or am I completely off base here?

crystal forum
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wait why am i arguing about this i don't even care. my original point is that the army will make you believe you're joining to help people in times of crisis yet when shit happens you will be the first to put a bullet through somebody's skull when ordered to

crystal forum
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doesn't matter how much they help, that's just the state using assets at their disposal

dapper gyro
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African countries, Australia/New Zealand, Central America and Mexico.

dapper gyro
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Hell, even Canada

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We deploy the army to assist with fire fighting.

crystal forum
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the worst is you might even be shooting your own countrymen as an american national guard these days

quasi temple
humble shoal
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Since they have conflicting command structures, no agency and all of the accountability

quasi temple
humble shoal
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Governer tells you to resist federal authority, but you are still accountable to the feds

crystal forum
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i don't trust military personnel to not follow orders. that's just contrary to how a military works

quasi temple
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Granted.

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The hope however, would be that individuals recognize their personhood before their military status

humble shoal
quasi temple
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Historically low statistics there, but hope is hope

crystal forum
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i don't want to make a direct comparison but the werhacht was given many illegal orders during WW2 and the rate of german soldiers not following orders was super low

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not to mention you'd just get sent to concentration camps if you dissented which is a different situation

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we're not at that point yet

quasi temple
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No no, we are at the concentration camps already

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'Twas even mentioned in the infamous Project 2025

humble shoal
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The us also had concentration camps

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They just didnt kill the people in them explicitly

languid meadow
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Legit everyone was doing it during the war (doesn't justify it but puts into perspective on how horrific the germans one were to already horrible places)

sleek vale
humble shoal
crystal forum
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in a british IP

quasi temple
humble shoal
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God I hate the double tap auto emote response

crystal forum
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yeah why does it pick the most random emoji too

rocky gale
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It's your most used I think

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Or it's supposed to be

crystal forum
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but that one isnt

humble shoal
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Yoy can change it

crystal forum
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my most used is Kek

humble shoal
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Dont remember how

quasi temple
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And what's worse, the culture has declined far enough that everything touches on a socio-political issue, and many of us have great difficulties abstaining from false attribution error

languid meadow
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My goat is in the new fallout episode

crystal forum
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i assume he won't be funny at all

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wild wasteland shit worked because the rest of the game was pretty depressing

languid meadow
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He's there for like 5 seconds

crystal forum
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is he funny

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or just another reference

heady rivet
languid meadow
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Also doesn't help that the kiregsmarine was just

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gone basically by the end

heady rivet
crystal forum
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to be fair the navy's orders to sink civilian merchant vessels was given by the command

languid meadow
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Donitz was charged with something

crystal forum
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it was their doctrine after all

heady rivet
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Like the Kriegsmarine started the war helping survivors from ships they torpedoed until the Allies used that chance to fire on them. You dont have to go far to find examples of Allies being like "Yeah there were a lot of survivors in the water from a German/Japanese ship so we just left em/steered the ship through em"

languid meadow
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"Karl Dönitz was convicted at the Nuremberg Trials primarily for planning and waging aggressive war (crimes against peace) and war crimes related to unrestricted submarine warfare, specifically ordering U-boat commanders not to rescue merchant ship survivors, which violated international law. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison, serving time for allowing slave labor and directing attacks without warning, but acquitted of crimes against humanity, largely because the Allies used similar tactics"

crystal forum
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japanese navy commanders though should have all been executed

heady rivet
crystal forum
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also just unit 731 and how it was basically acquitted on all charges

heady rivet
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And the Soviets and Americans racing to scoop up every scientist in Germany

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The Space Race was Germans racing each other

quasi temple
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And everyone lost

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And we continue to lose today

heady rivet
crystal forum
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the fact that the US could send man to the moon in 1969 proves to me that the only reason tech is so slow is because no money is being put into research

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it's insane how they pulled it off with 60's technology

heady rivet
quasi temple
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Fun fact: the Musk rocket that can land itself after launching emits a SPL of over 140 dBA at a kilometer away.

languid meadow
crystal forum
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like i know this is pretty obvious but imagine if the budget was still like this instead of all fucking going to israel

quasi temple
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We have fancy rockets that can move people and things, but it will destroy cars, houses, and people's hearing

quasi temple
outer wave
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Ahhh

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Fuck thats high

quasi temple
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Yeap!

languid meadow
# heady rivet In what ways?

Rare earth minerals in asteroids and on the moon, helium 3 on the moon (which is why China is so interested in it)

crystal forum
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NASA these days just serves as a grant funding agency for companies

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i am no joking

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that's how spaceX even started

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it's all thanks to NASA

heady rivet
crystal forum
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so public taxes go to an agency who gives grants to companies so they don't immediately crumble and then those companies then charge the same tax payers money to use their services

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i fucking hate capitalism i swear to christ

languid meadow
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we have prototypes for moon to earth stuff the most expensive part would be getting it all there, at a certain point the value of the moon cannot be ignored by most nations

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China is already gonna beat us there

quasi temple
crystal forum
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yeah instead of whatever makes the most money

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because private services like railway and healthcare are proven to work /s

jade holly
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So that new Jaghatai Khan model

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That looks sick honestly

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But I don’t usually get JoyToy figures

crystal forum
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now cue in starlink and that shit is so expensive that it only caters to a very specific niche of rural people who can afford it

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i genuinely have no idea how spacex is still making money

languid meadow
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gov contracts

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that's it

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Tesla and SpaceX are heavily subsidies by the US gov and that's why Elon had to pussy out of his political shit and suck on the tits of turnip back in June

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because he threatened to pull those contracts

heady rivet
crystal forum
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yeah gotta coup some south american countries

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clearly the most pressing issue

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at its peak NASA only had a little over 4% of fed budget

heady rivet
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Another thing is PR. Nasa went to the moon so much the novelty was gone. The later Apollo mission launches struggled to even get time on the news

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So the American public was just "whatever" about it whatthefuck_heresy

crystal forum
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yeah the reasons are obvious it was always about the politics of making the commies look bad

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because we can't have noble goals as a species i guess

quasi temple
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cough funding from dictatorships who want to weaponize the tech cough

crystal forum
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i don't believe spacex's stuff can be weaponized

quasi temple
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Trump and Musk were really buddy buddy at one point.

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And then suddenly they werent

humble shoal
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Starlink seems to have been neutralized anyways

languid meadow
humble shoal
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As an asset there

heady rivet
crystal forum
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spy satellites have already existed for a while

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and low earth orbit is not good for them anyways

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they work better in geosync

quasi temple
humble shoal
crystal forum
heady rivet
humble shoal
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Hardware wise

quasi temple
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America wants to try its hand at that, except the ethnic minority of choice is any non-white, but particularly hispanics

crystal forum
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oh i didnt hear of that

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i wonder how they managed that

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iran of all places

humble shoal
quasi temple
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Hmm

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Curious

humble shoal
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With help from russia and china

quasi temple
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sarcasm

crystal forum
humble shoal
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Russias been trying out jamming it in ukraine

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And chinas been working on it as well

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For a future military exercise

heady rivet
crystal forum
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now im really curious how you can jam a collection of LEO satellites

humble shoal
quasi temple
heady rivet
humble shoal
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By sending a bunch of connection requests

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Or use a radio jammer to stop leos from getting the output

crystal forum
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other than like shine lasers at them since they all communicate between eachother through light

celest dome
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You jam the ground recievers and not the satelites I'd guess

heady rivet
#

You Ace Combat 7 the entire satellite network

celest dome
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You send some money to Musky

humble shoal
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Some older satellites may also have vulns

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That can be exploited

crystal forum
quasi temple
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Whatever the method, it sure smells Musky

winged jacinth
languid meadow
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god turned off non-historical ai....

crystal forum
winged jacinth
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Not that many though

languid meadow
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insane to me the amount of pro shah flags flying around the protests/revolutionaries

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Legault resigned?

winged jacinth
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And you only need to hit the subset with coverage over the target area

languid meadow
#

what

heady rivet
crystal forum
languid meadow
languid meadow
crystal forum
#

receiver is on the ground right

humble shoal
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Yeah

crystal forum
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well wouldn't it be very far away

winged jacinth
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Starlink isnt like gps where it talks to satellites on the horizon the range to the reciever is limited by beam coherence iirc

languid meadow
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If the crown prince ever returns it's a coin flip on whether or not he'll be just as bad as his father

humble shoal
spring cairn
#

dude

languid meadow
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or actually reform and grow

heady rivet
spring cairn
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they're gonna execute the south korean president or some shit

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wtf is going on

languid meadow
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yeah I saw that

heady rivet
humble shoal
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But yeah it needs a lot of bandwidth

spring cairn
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literally

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i didn't even know they still had the death penalty there

crystal forum
heady rivet
quasi temple
languid meadow
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SK hasn't executed anyone in 30 years

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this would be the first

heady rivet
humble shoal
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Its pretty much the same as wifi jamming just with way more power Im assuming

languid meadow
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considering the soldiers that showed up there to "help" were cleary not in on it

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yeah

winged jacinth
quasi temple
winged jacinth
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Its a problem from a different angle than astronomy

crystal forum
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they all interlink between eachother

languid meadow
spring cairn
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scary

winged jacinth
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If you're a nation jamming all the sats that can talk to an operation area is doable
Doesnt matter if they can talk to each other if none of them talk to the ground

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I really need to shower and leave the house im gonna be late

crystal forum
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dont shower embrace stink

quasi temple
raven stone
quasi temple
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Don't embrace, shower Nurgle

humble shoal
heady rivet
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Its 100% fake but

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They still do execute a lot

languid meadow
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That's fucking hilarious

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Looney Toons ass death

quasi temple
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But..

humble shoal
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They have amusement parks 10/10 no lines

spring cairn
#

wile e coyote ahh death sentence

quasi temple
#

Can a hot air balloon get that far?

quasi temple
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Wouldn't it require lots of fuel to overcome the temperature gradients?

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And the pressure changes too

languid meadow
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it would have to be a space balloon

quasi temple
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So its nit a linear function

spring cairn
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hot hair balloons are so scary mang

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how do u trust that shit

humble shoal
spring cairn
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i saw a vid of a crash and it was traumatizing

quasi temple
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I'd like to go into a hit air balloon just once

spring cairn
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the ppl aboard just jump out

humble shoal
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There was the one dude who went up to the assisted breathing required section from what I remember

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He survived somehow....

quasi temple
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And if I get the gall to go a second time im bringing a parachute or a wing suit and im flying home

spring cairn
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i'm scared of heights anyway so your not making me get into that thing

heady rivet
spring cairn
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don't forget the whistle

quasi temple
spring cairn
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you're not right in the head Goat_Tickler97

crystal forum
celest dome
#

I think I might have found an even more senseless chain weapon than the Chain Flail

humble shoal
quasi temple
crystal forum
humble shoal
#

Who beat the cool dude like a month after

crystal forum
quasi temple
crystal forum
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yeah

quasi temple
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Oh yeah. I remember this now

languid meadow
dapper gyro
#

Redbull stunt, but it is an actual stunt and record.

crystal forum
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they used a weather balloon i think

quasi temple
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And if that was a balloon then my entire schema of "hot air balloon" os incomplete

humble shoal
crystal forum
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one of those ballons that go insanely high

celest dome
heady rivet
quasi temple
#

HE IS A PROGRAMMER??!!

languid meadow
#

Tana.... Tuva...

quasi temple
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Lmao, you just never know who!!

heady rivet
crystal forum
humble shoal
dapper gyro
#

With enough money, you can do anything.

quasi temple
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Im a little impressed. And, not defending his wealth, but us poor people can't afford the time or practice for a stunt like that.

crystal forum
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i'm as impressed as somebody who climbs mount everest

humble shoal
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Also had a bunch of velocity reducing stuff

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So fall was way slower

dapper gyro
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However, you need to be smart, otherwise you end up like that submarine trying to do the Titanic tourism.

humble shoal
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Than felix

crystal forum
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like ok you risked death but also it wouldn't be worth doing to you if everybody had a chance

quasi temple
dapper gyro
#

The thrill of speed is part of the game.

quasi temple
heady rivet
quasi temple
heady rivet
crystal forum
#

more like stockton crush

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get it

rose thorn
# languid meadow

opens discord
opens darktide server
go to 40K-lore-chat
4chan insanity political memes

Oh it must be Wednesday

dapper gyro
quasi temple
daring creek
#

My favorite corporation

quasi temple
#

Im sorry

crystal forum
#

BRICS is such a hilarious concept

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all those countries hate eachother

rose thorn
# daring creek My favorite corporation

I saw “”””people”””” commenting on the post about gw being against ai that were like “well maybe they will change their mind once they start losing money” and “genie is already out of the bottle” and saw one guy who was like “I’m okay with this as long as they no longer do retcons”

heady rivet
crystal forum
#

the warsaw pact?

heady rivet
#

CSTO

quasi temple
#

Why is the number in parens?

daring creek
#

Getting my teeth cleaned

heady rivet
quasi temple
#

...the number eas in parens because you're at the dentist?

heady rivet
#

Thats not me gramps

quasi temple
#

I know.

crystal forum
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why is south africa in BRICS anyways

heady rivet
#

I'm the one with toesies

crystal forum
#

does it think it's too cool to be in the commonwealth

quasi temple
#

Just musing on the timing of their comment

heady rivet
crystal forum
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granted the commonwealth is just a vague concept that doesnt really mean anything

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but still just having south africa next to china, russia and india is funny

heady rivet
#

And turns out blaming 100% of the issues on a system that collapsed 30 years ago while you have been in power basically the whole time since then isnt a valid excuse for why you managed to go backwards

languid meadow
#

corrupt nations... strong together

dapper gyro
#

It is not corruption if we are part of it.

languid meadow
#

BRICS is just hilarious to me

jade holly
#

Any new information today or do I gotta wait for the 16th?

heady rivet
#

Shoutout to that BRICS waifu post that destroys every serious discussion

languid meadow
#

4 of the members all hate each other

crystal forum
#

having india and china agree to be part of anything is wild

crystal forum
#

brazil hates argentina

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russia hates everybody

languid meadow
#

China is literally sucking Russia dry from the war

dapper gyro
#

That's a cat.

daring creek
#

Captured

crystal forum
#

obtained

crystal forum
heady rivet
#

I knew someone couldnt resist

heady rivet
dapper gyro
#

I want to see if you dare.

languid meadow
dapper gyro
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And you chicken out.

heady rivet
dapper gyro
daring creek
#

Can someone tell me why every fucking clinic, DJ or motherfucking restaurant plays the same music from 2014

heady rivet
daring creek
quasi temple
crystal forum
daring creek
#

What if I want

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Good music?

crystal forum
#

listen to your own

quasi temple
#

Also the idea that such music will be familiar, enjoyable, family friendly

jade holly
daring creek
dapper gyro
#

Make your own music, Missus.

crystal forum
jade holly
#

Music peaked in the 80’s with rock and metal