40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

Go my propaganda drones

Record

[rocky gale]

There's literally a whole novel about getting propaganda footage about Orks

[winged jacinth]

the tau do have invisibility technology and autonomous antigravity drones

[arctic talon]

The tau are really good at recording shit lol

Much like the mechanicus forces, every fire warrior’s helmet is a recording device

Like

[dusky beacon]

They have a decent amount of human planets under their control, it's important to remember that to a lot of human worlds "The Imperium" is a vague entity, and these blue aliens are bringing some very real food

[arctic talon]

You can get pov propaganda lol

[jade holly]

Voyeurs

[arctic talon]

Also yeah this they can always make propaganda with actual humans living in the tau empire

Like how one of the Cain book covers has a human in fire warrior armor lol

For the propaganda shot

[jade holly]

I still can’t get over how geographically the Tau empire is right next to the Sautekh Dynasty lmao

[dusky beacon]

I've started reading the Cain books for almost no other reason than it features T'au not written by Phil Kelly

[dusky beacon]

And Ultramar

[winged jacinth]

warp storms cause funny stuff

[arctic talon]

Mmmmmmmm

Warp

[winged jacinth]

the tau did jump up from a single nonindustrialized planet in like 2000 years too

[jade holly]

The funny space juice

[dusky beacon]

And there's two Hive Fleets in the empires backyard

And they're STILL going strong

[raven stone]

I want more lore about humans under T'au rule lol

[arctic talon]

We’ve got some

Not a ton

They’re the usual 2nd class citizens

With their own hierarchy

[dusky beacon]

Just don't let phil Kelly write it

[raven stone]

And, as impossible as it sounds, maybe even why some humans (rare but never none) do the very weird thing of defecting (back) to IoM

[jade holly]

I’m guessing the ones who kiss up to the Ethereals are the ones who get the most benefits?

[arctic talon]

Not really

[raven stone]

(Granted I do not expect IoM policy in general to treat the defectors well, but radical Inquisitors would see value)

[dusky beacon]

Ethereals are written inconsistently

[arctic talon]

Not really imo

Ethereals vary

Some are benevolent

Others are

Yknow

not

[jade holly]

Farsight is Fire caste right?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[jade holly]

What were each of the castes again for warfare?

Fire was main infantry, earth engineers, water medics and air the fliers?

[storm jungle]

Water are diplomats

[dusky beacon]

Water Caste have the LEAST to do with combat

[storm jungle]

^

they literally exist to get shot in books

like most diplomats IRL

lmao

[dusky beacon]

Nobody but the Fire Caste even get to learn how to fight

[jade holly]

Deserved for diplomacy in 40K

[raven stone]

OK on that note.

The Castes define function but are multi racial IIRC (except Ethereal)?

[storm jungle]

Nah. Diplomacy achieves tons.

[daring creek]

doesn't that make them vulnerable though

[arctic talon]

Water are diplomats/intel
Fire are military(ground )
Earth caste are science
Air are air warfare and void warfare
Ethereals are the ruling caste

[winged jacinth]

air caste does operate the fliers rather than fire iirc but earth caste doesnt deploy

[jade holly]

Bargains, agreements and alliances in my grim darkness?

[storm jungle]

Not really

[storm jungle]

Yes

[arctic talon]

Air caste

[jade holly]

Smh

[storm jungle]

We literally do the exact same IRL

Military branches arent diplomats

[arctic talon]

Specific water caste spooks also know how to fight

[storm jungle]

or solely control the air force, etc

[arctic talon]

But usually no

[dusky beacon]

Fighting is the Fire Castes job, and all the castes work together very closely

[arctic talon]

Air caste and fire caste both get combat training

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

It’s like irl

[raven stone]

T'au do genuine negotiations and also "negotiations" (read: gunboat diplomacy)

[arctic talon]

But with eugenics

lol

[storm jungle]

they arent entirely seperated yeah

[arctic talon]

Not everyone irl has military training

Big shock

[jade holly]

Farsight just hated the Ethereals right?

[arctic talon]

I know

[arctic talon]

He hates the ethereal caste yes

The ethereals are basically an oligarchic core

To the tau empire

[dusky beacon]

You can also take armed drones to protect you

[arctic talon]

Also tbh just because you don’t have military training doesn’t mean you can’t shoot a gun

Tau pulse pistols are pretty easy to handle

[rocky gale]

When thinking about Tau I always remember the Book of Martyrs where there's a Water Caste Tau trying to convince a Sororitas to defect, but just nothing works. Then it ends with the Sister about to kill an Ethereal and the Water Caste guy being like "If you do that there's no chance of peace, it will be war without mercy, it will not end until the complete eradication of everyone you care about" and the Sister is just like "Duh, that's what war is" and then breaks the Ethereals neck.

[winged jacinth]

the tau also have sufficient robotics to do their combat engineering remotely if they want to

[jade holly]

Do we know of any Necron overlords who saw people on his people and just went “y’all can’t rule yourself worth shit. Lemme show you how to be an excellent ruler” and just treat them like his own out of spite

[raven stone]

And TBF basic firearms training is different from full military teaining

[dusky beacon]

I really like how Elemental Council also leaned into their role as teachers and "spiritual" leaders, rather than just conniving facist politicians

[arctic talon]

Tbf

They’re both

The ones in elemental council are the examples of what an ethereal should strive to be

[dusky beacon]

Yeah and that makes them more interesting

[arctic talon]

An “ideal” ethereal

lol

[winged jacinth]

they're like a weird atheist theocracy lol

[dusky beacon]

Rather than JUST facists

[arctic talon]

Depending on what purpose an ethereal serves in the story

They can be eother

[storm jungle]

Yeah that

[winged jacinth]

autocrat bodhisattvas

[storm jungle]

This is also an example of why all tau stories generally suck

they literally live to get bodied constantly and seem like idiots lmao

[jade holly]

Too pacifist?

[storm jungle]

Yeah and its stupid

[arctic talon]

Honestly the Tau’va might as well be a state religion

lol

Elemental council has them sufficiently violent

lol

[jade holly]

I wanna watch a riptide throw hands with a knight

[arctic talon]

For an expansionist empire

[jade holly]

[storm jungle]

in reality the twist should have been the ethereal was a hologram the entire time and they just gas the room and poison the sister to death

lol

[winged jacinth]

at this point it is for the auxillary species yeah

[jade holly]

Omfg I’m so fucking stupid

[arctic talon]

They’re a bunch of jingoistic jackasses

[jade holly]

I just realized their units have naval/Aquatic base names

[winged jacinth]

i think the tau proper are still atheist but they've accepted t'au'va worship after the big fuckup at the atoll

[arctic talon]

New fire caste member just dropped

[jade holly]

Broadside Battlesuits, Riptides, whatever their vehicles are called

[arctic talon]

we will drown the imperials in a sea of ion munitions

[rocky gale]

They thought they had the upper hand and she was completely exhausted after weeks in a cell, they didn't anticipate the Sister would develop Saint powers and rip through the entire facility with her bare hands

[arctic talon]

💀

[raven stone]

Or...

The death happens exactly as written, but the story should have ended with the T'au returning with a retribution fleet and blasting the Sister to pieces.

Because THAT would be historically accurate satire of what European colonial powers would have done back in the day.

[dusky beacon]

My favorite line from Elemental Council is "There cannot be two Greater Goods" and how the book introduces the idea that even tho all the Ethereals are trying to achieve The Greater Good, they don't all agree on the shaoe of it

[jade holly]

Give me the George Patton of the Fire Caste lmao

Someone who just has one plan: Attack

[storm jungle]

Its still just stupid.

[arctic talon]

Rip puretide

[winged jacinth]

someone mentioned that t'au'va was oddly benevolent for a warp entity and i think that might be because its the only one who's worshippers arent miserable

[arctic talon]

My GOAT

[storm jungle]

Every tau story is the same with this shit

"Please join us"

"No lol die lmao"

it gets boring af

[rocky gale]

Skill diff

[arctic talon]

What about elemental council

Smh

[storm jungle]

Be quiet Bitches of the Emperor

[storm jungle]

👎

[rocky gale]

Woof

[jade holly]

Is Helbrecht still pissy over losing his hand?

[arctic talon]

Do you not like the book?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[jade holly]

Good

[winter pine]

I want some more real politicking Tau

[jade holly]

[storm jungle]

I wish Tau were more like IRL China rn

Do nothing
Win

[rocky gale]

TBF it was in the book of Martyrs, the point of which was to tell the story of the times Sisters dunked on other factions before dieing.

[dusky beacon]

I mean that's kinda what they do because they aren't a dying race and aren't actively self sabotaging

[winter pine]

give one spare clean water filter they have in the back of the warehouse, get a new planet

[raven stone]

T'au VS IoM stories should not be T'au just asking "pls join us"

They should instead focus on Cold War style espionage operations waged by Inquisition and T'au against each other.

As well as plenty of genuine diplomatic and political intrigues

[jade holly]

Is the Farsight Enclave even a major threat to the Ethereals?

[winged jacinth]

the tau get ready to do a thing
ok the guy who invented these new engines said "dont use too many at once!" so we equipped 1000 ships with them and they're going simultaneously

[dusky beacon]

No

[storm jungle]

The hilarious thing is if 40k didnt have plot armor Imperial Planets would literally just constantly implode from infighting lol

[winter pine]

The Ecclesiarchy when devotion to the failed corpsed god doesn't put food in a peasant's somach:

[dusky beacon]

They are NOTHING compared to even the Mainline Empire

[winged jacinth]

the farsight enclave is a political threat but attacking the farsight enclave would be an even worse political outcome

[jade holly]

Which is hilarious cause Farsight is like the one Tau I know lmao

[arctic talon]

No, they’re way too small

They’re a threat politically only

[dusky beacon]

Man I wish T'au had a better author

[arctic talon]

Militarily they’d get crushed

[jade holly]

Oh wait

I know Shadowsun

But that’s it

[winged jacinth]

yeah the reason they cant crush the farsight enclaves is that it would prove farsight right and that would be a political catastrophe lol

[storm jungle]

It took them 30 fucking years to get a guy that wrote Elemental Council

a book so good btw even non-tau fans recommend it

which hasnt happened since Infinite and the Divine lmao

[winged jacinth]

ignoring them is kinda winning against them from the ethereals perspective lol

[dusky beacon]

Its funny to me how whenever someone other than the main T'au author writes T'au people think it's awsome

[jade holly]

Is it bad I want Cavill to adapt that into a movie?

[storm jungle]

oh my god

[jade holly]

An animated movie specifically

[storm jungle]

SHUT UP about Cavill

fuck me

lmao

[hallow saddle]

lmaoooooo

[jade holly]

Damn okay

[rocky gale]

Which Gay Necron would he play?

[raven stone]

People outside of the 40k influence can somewhat understand how to make T'au work narratively without the bias against that faction

[hallow saddle]

cavill is gonna be doing heresy shit slop anyway

[raven stone]

I think

[dusky beacon]

Ive heard great things about Fire Caste and heard Tau get a good showing in the Cain books

[arctic talon]

They’re fun in the Cain books

But they’re minor

[jade holly]

How large are the usual battlesuits in the Tau empire?

[dusky beacon]

The XV8 crisis suit is bit bigger than a Terminator

[raven stone]

Ranging from Terminator size to Knight size

[jade holly]

Now what about Broadsides and Riptides

[raven stone]

But T'au do not have Titan sized

[vagrant fox]

I am quite fond of this kpop macarthur

[dusky beacon]

But stuff like the Stormsurge can absolutely wreck a Titan

[arctic talon]

Broadside is slightly larger then a XV-8

[raven stone]

I mean even the lore mentioned they shoved more guns onto it for that specific reason

[arctic talon]

Taunar supremacy suit

Is warhound sized lol

[jade holly]

Storm surge looks so fucking dumb lmao

[raven stone]

Ah crap my lore fail

[arctic talon]

Storm surge isn’t a battlesuit

Technically

It’s a weapons platform

[raven stone]

So out of Touch

[arctic talon]

Smh

[storm jungle]

Stormsurge is a fucking metal gear

lmao

[arctic talon]

ETHEREAL AUN’LA SEND THEM TO THE RE-REEDUCATION CAMP TO WORK FOR OUR GLORIOUS EMPIRE

[dusky beacon]

I don't accept tabletop as cannon scale but it's a pretty good idea

[jade holly]

Is the far left one Riptide

[arctic talon]

The tabletop scale is approximated

Yes

[dusky beacon]

Yes

[arctic talon]

That’s a riptide

[dusky beacon]

Riptide, Enforcer, Broadside, Crisis

[jade holly]

Tau getting ready to firing line only to see a bunch of mortars courtesy of the IG

[arctic talon]

Kid named drone strike

I love smart missiles

[dusky beacon]

They have shield generators

[arctic talon]

(No I don’t)

I hate smart missiles

So fucking much lol

[dusky beacon]

They can take a shelling

[jade holly]

Run over them with a Baneblade

[dusky beacon]

Than you gotta answer to the Riptides Ion Accelerator

Or any of the Rail weapons

[dusky beacon]

Also Battlesuits can fly

[arctic talon]

Yeah lmao

Battlesuits are funny

[dusky beacon]

I love them so much

I need a Ghostkeel

[arctic talon]

My favorite battlesuit is the enforcer

[jade holly]

Broadside’s my favorite

[dusky beacon]

It looks so down to business but also still heroic

[arctic talon]

I think the broadside is the only battlesuit that can’t fly

lol

[dusky beacon]

Yeah

Gave up the jetpack for more weapons

But it's a backline unit anyway

Basically a sniper

[winged jacinth]

yeah they're field artillery basically

[dusky beacon]

But also I REALLY wish I had a gif of a Broadside taking a swipe at a Space Marine who heard they're bad at melee and getting layed out by a Broadside swinging it's Heavy Rail Rifle

[winged jacinth]

tau was the first 40k faction i ever painted and man looking back the models were not exciting to paint (the old sculpts at least)

bad at melee (compared to a dreadnought with a power claw)

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/rhulk-disciple-of-the-witness-rhulk-kicked-ratio-destiny2-gif-25063797

[winged jacinth]

i have the yaegir killteam waiting to be painted when i finish my hierotek circle

[dusky beacon]

"Bad at melee" yeah a guardsman can only win a fistfight with a crisis suit on Tabletop, you're getting scrunched

[winged jacinth]

i dont think anywhere i want to drive to does killteam tables unfortunately

[dusky beacon]

Rhulk my beloved leggy boi

[winged jacinth]

im in seattle so my options are either going all the way out to fuckin redmond where microsoft is or crossing downtown to west seattle augh

i could play though

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195404877688602624/1460336537324486767/Screenshot_20260112_115454_YouTube.jpg?ex=69668be2&is=69653a62&hm=5bb89c3c4d7a024f5f878f404f6a9aa819a79589ed670da251545c07a8ae9b39&

Turning off the power fist just to aura farm

Smh

[rocky gale]

They gonna kiss

[dusky beacon]

God I wish that was me

[winged jacinth]

Otoh idk if the character it ships with is good or if games workshop wants to trick me into spending $45 on an alternate lol

"Oh you want to use the chronomancer that will be half the whole box's cost"

[spare osprey]

Actually buying models has always worried me and my wallet.
I don't even wanna play the game!
I want my cool little homebrew guardsmen or astartes to decorate the house...

[jade holly]

What box is the Chronomancer in?

[winged jacinth]

Standalone model

Which is why the price tag is so egregious

I mean it costs more than half an entire kt box

I think i actually spent a little more on the circle because it was new but still $45

I assume the other alternate commander is also a $45 model but i haven't looked (and you need to buy another box of immortals if you want to really complete your list possibilities 🙂

[arctic talon]

Come get yer valrakslop

• has heard that studio is refreshing track based marine vehicles for both marine flavors.
  -rhino is the first
  -every resin custodes unit will be refreshed in plastic
  -custodes refresh will be entire range, new proportions more stormcast like
  -both male and female head options for custodes
  -New Guilliman model for 40k at some point. Will be similar to current one but with better face sculpt.
  -new dorn model for 30k
  -eldar corsairs refresh of old FW infantry, new Yirel, Red corsairs upgrade sprue unit

[rocky gale]

Rule update allowing Primaris to go inside Rhinos when?

[arctic talon]

Who the fuck knows

11e prolly

[rocky gale]

Like why I gotta use an Impulsor to transport my Primaris, just let me put them in a damn Rhino

[arctic talon]

It’s entirely done for gameplay reasons

Considering GW shoved primaris in rhinos in the first books with primaris

lol

Anyways new custodes exciting

Can’t wait for them to not have squished proportions like 1e stormcast

[vagrant fox]

It's good that they're catering to folks like me who hasn't bought a model in 5 editions with new tracked vehicles refresh

[jade holly]

How many transport vehicles are you usually using in an army?

[rocky gale]

I think Most armies will have atleast one

[jade holly]

I’ve always been annoyed at knowing how many points to budget for vehicles

Like in Shatterstar yeah got 5 DDAs but what else

More DDAs?

[storm jungle]

"rhino is the first"

yep definitely legit

[arctic talon]

Varies

[storm jungle]

the custodes refresh we knew already months ago so checks out

[arctic talon]

Some run none

Some run one

[jade holly]

Like I know Iron Hands and Iron Warrior themed detachments love vehicles

And Shatterstar is where DDA truly shines

But what about other vehicles

That’s where I can’t wrap my head around it

[arctic talon]

The only one that feels potentially fake is new 30k dorn, but maybe the moulds breaking.

New Guilliman is like 💀 but also I could totally see it

[storm jungle]

Naw its deffo true

30k thing seals it

people love primarch slop

[jade holly]

New Guilliman: upgraded from a 60mm base to a 32mm base

[arctic talon]

The issue is dorn’s primarch mini is really new imo

[storm jungle]

is it?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Which is why it’s either fake or the mould is dying

[storm jungle]

when was it released

[arctic talon]

7 years ago

[rocky gale]

Old

[storm jungle]

Oh my god dude

thats old

are you insane lmao

[arctic talon]

Not for primarch minis smh

[storm jungle]

ı mean yes it is

[arctic talon]

But okay fine

[storm jungle]

loyalist gets refereshes constantly

get this guy outta here

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-mad-caseoh-angry-caseoh-banned-get-out-go-away-gif-8419228579553039351

[arctic talon]

In 30k it’s sons of Horus

Akshully

[storm jungle]

all the same to me

sloptartes

👎

[arctic talon]

lol

[jade holly]

Necrons during Horus Heresy be like:

[daring creek]

What necrons even doing

Do they really just wanna genocide everyone

[jade holly]

Sleeping lmao

They weren’t even awake yet

Well majority of them anyways

Even less of a small amount of them were awake in 30k

[rocky gale]

They took a nap and then woke up to find that a bunch of squatters moved into their house

[crisp heath]

imagine sleeping for billions of years just to wake up to this thing trespassing your house and stealing your shit

[fervent geode]

To them its more they woke up to a bunch of people (everyone else) in their house (galaxy)

[raven stone]

Or Votann

Digging for mining, but same principle.

[fervent geode]

And they now wanna kill em all

[crisp heath]

not people but rats/vermin

[raven stone]

I mean at least one named Necron wants to, so…

[crisp heath]

They see anything as insects

so waking up to your entire crib filled with cockroaches and rats everywhere

i would also want to kil everything

[jade holly]

Not just insects, but future livestock too

Well, for Szarekh anyways

You gotta get biomass somewhere

[crisp heath]

one of my favorite memes from the mechanicus waking up the necrons

[daring creek]

I love that lmfao

[fervent geode]

Yeah thats more like it

[crisp heath]

from what I gathered he still sees humans as pests/vermin but maybe having some use

the introduction on this scene was insane

[jade holly]

Yeah he needs them for reverse biotransfernce

he need biomass to make bodies

But

Before that

He needs them to help him

The Tyranids are his biggest rival, they eat all the bio mass he needs

[crisp heath]

forced to work with the thing he hates the most

[jade holly]

He doesn’t hate them tmk

He just views them as lesser

Tmk there’s only one guy he really hates

Imotekh

[crisp heath]

i am not familiar with Imotekh

[jade holly]

Greatest strategist and tactician among the Necron’s

A conqueror and a warlord

Took over his dynasty after the Phaeron died, and he views the Silent King (Sarekh) as a failure, coward and betrayer to the Necrons

Cause the entire robot situation and lack of souls in his fault

But in a form of hypocrisy, Imotekh believes their new bodies are superior to their organic forms and seeks to never return to flesh

and now seeks to eradicate and subjugate all non Necron life for his Necron empire

He even wars against and destroys other dynasties if they don’t follow his

[crisp heath]

i mean the necrons do have way more superior bodies now but on the other hand...

most of them have no consciousness

[jade holly]

They’re mentally degrading over time, most of the original civilians are just mindless drones now, they cannot remember life before biotransference and most of their original art and culture is lost to them

Chances are you either succumb to the Destroyer Curse or the Flayer Virus

[crisp heath]

damn unfortunate

[storm jungle]

Thats not really true.

You aren tdoomed to fall to these, it literally is a virus, its happenstance.

Aka can happen to anyone.

Most necrons have been around for billions of years with zero effect or issues.

[jade holly]

I’m just saying since they’re immortal there’s a non zero chance they all succumb to it eventually

[storm jungle]

Not really no.

The Twice books set it up, they are fine as long as you have hobby

Also you know, arent an idiot enoguh to catch it.

[jade holly]

Still, if Imotekh wins it’s a cultural dead end for the Necrons

No new Necrons can be made, only lost

[storm jungle]

Not really again.

Imotekh is correct in that going back to times of flesh is very stupid

Necrons literally got no common folk to worry over, their current status is perfect as a empire-expanding civilization.

He isn't dooming them to stagnancy because not every Dynasty is going the way of the dodo bird. Every Dynasty has its own share of problems or just live fine, the ones we see are just abundant because it makes it more interesting.

Its like how nobody wants to read about a Guard Regiment sent to garrison a empty colony world where nothing happens.

[dapper gyro]

Most Necrons are indistinguishable from an AI. With their tech, they can rebuild Necron casualties if they want.

[fervent geode]

Imotekh gets it, i mean he is the strategically minded one, Szarekh is burdened by the guilt of leading the necrons into biotransference and enslaving them to the C'tan once upon a time, thus his desire to redeem his "sin"

[fervent geode]

An infinite empire

[storm jungle]

Yeah their current status is perfect from a billionaire-overlord's standponit because you dont have to worry about the "proletariat"

[jade holly]

Honestly tho, props to Szarekh for deleting his ultimate control command over Necrons when he went into self exile. He honestly seems genuinely heartbroken over what he did

[storm jungle]

Genuinely a dumbass move imo.

Symbolic and noble sure but it bit him hard in the ass

[jade holly]

I mean yeah cause now civil wars left and right

[storm jungle]

Imotekh is such a little fuck

i wish he just took over his body and blew him up already

[fervent geode]

They are the perfect war machine for a tyrant like him and so many others

[jade holly]

but give a king credit to give freedom to his citizens

[jade holly]

Imotekh does a little trolling

Like attacking the Pariah Nexus

[dapper gyro]

That's just a flex on the Imperium.

[storm jungle]

My favorite part is him ACTIVELY IGNORING imperial forces as well.

[jade holly]

“They’re not worthy enough to die by my hand” ahh ego

[storm jungle]

Real. Bro wants to aura farm way too much.

but nah it isnt ego

its to piss of Szarekh

[dapper gyro]

To be fair, the imperium spent way to much resource to defend that region.

[storm jungle]

because the imperials are also destroying pylons

[jade holly]

Can you blame him?

[storm jungle]

[fervent geode]

Szeras gets it tbh, ascending to forms of pure energy would theoretically give their entire race C'tan like power to consume life whilst being able to enter living metal when necessary. Even better for tyrants like Imotekh if they have the necron hierarchy still and the non-nobility are mindless energy soldiers

[heady rivet]

Man...

[jade holly]

Is that seriously still their newest model?

[celest dome]

The Kill Team

[jade holly]

Are both Skitarii and Gun Servitors their Battleline?

[celest dome]

Only Skitarii

[storm jungle]

Nestle™

[rocky gale]

Really makes me wanna play OWB mod, but the Rustbelt Rising submod hasn't updated in like a year and half of the best submods are reliant on it

[vagrant fox]

It should update soon

They said end of this month or beginning of next

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/resurrection-resurrect-back-from-the-dead-coffin-gif-17046161

[languid meadow]

Yeah RBR and ECR are getting updates very soon

So peka

[vital ginkgo]

Which of the loyal 1st founding chapters would be most likely to fall to chaos in the 42nd millennium?

[crisp heath]

Nestle is truly one of the companies with a CEO who actually looks and think like a villain

[crisp heath]

Black Templar due to extreme zeal that could be devastating to the chapter if Emps wakes up and decides he needs o reset or Blood Angels with the black rage

me thinks

[storm jungle]

[vital ginkgo]

They're 2nd founding

[crisp heath]

where is going

[storm jungle]

[crisp heath]

then only BA

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-rip-rhino-toy-gif-23656797

[dapper gyro]

Spare me more pixel please

[daring creek]

Good day to you blood bags

Foxy Shazam is nice

@storm jungle is there a chapter you actually like

Im guessing it's going to be heretical

[storm jungle]

Raptors, Mentors and Iron Snakes for the Top 3.

Contrary to popular belief I dont detest Mairnes I just hate them from a commercially and wank-lore aspect.

I literally got 5 Successor Chapters lol

[daring creek]

Understandable yeah. Especially when they're pumped merchandise and bravado lore for money

[jade holly]

Ammentar looks so fucking cool

[daring creek]

Feels artificial

[rose thorn]

Wait is he that big?

[jade holly]

Well yeah he’s on the same base size as the C’tan shards too

[daring creek]

Itd be cool if there were chapters allied w xenos

[rose thorn]

Wait

Dark angels

[storm jungle]

For you.

[daring creek]

yes

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/for-you-bane-the-dark-knight-rises-tom-hardy-gif-21912820

[rose thorn]

Dark angels are allied with a xenos

[storm jungle]

Also yeah I just prefer to also like somewhat niche Chapters.

instead of

OMAGERD

BLOOD RAVENS

DAWNOFWAR

[hallow saddle]

i like imotekh hes poggers

[storm jungle]

OMAGAWD LAMENTERS

[hallow saddle]

hes leading my necron army

[rose thorn]

Shout out to chapters with 1 paragraph of lore and 20 year old art

[jade holly]

He’s sitting his ass away from battle on my Homebase giving me Command Points

[valid needle]

Blood Angels

[jade holly]

[hallow saddle]

i bring him right to the front with 10 lychguard with spears

it looks fuckin badass

(im not good at playing 40k)

rule of cool every time

[valid needle]

Well actually nah the lion has kind of adopted Blood Angels so maybe not but without the lion then blood angels

[hallow saddle]

with a monolith on the field too

[valid needle]

Ravenguard could go either way depending on if Corax has become a warp daemon and if he returns

[jade holly]

@rose thorn I found the full art…

[hallow saddle]

although last time i tried to gp up against my mates votann land fortress with the monolith and i got absolutely pwned

[rose thorn]

I’m glad 40K is taking trh AOS pill with making giant unqiue heroes

[opaque coyote]

"Take the Sigmar pill"

[hallow saddle]

im glad we have a choice because i prety much prefer the regular sized heroes every single time

[valid needle]

Dark Angels technically

[jade holly]

A space marine is 8-9’ tall right?

[hallow saddle]

imotekh, fabius bile, lucius

[valid needle]

The watchers are xenos

[opaque coyote]

Highly dependant. But generally yeah.

[jade holly]

Then That makes Ammentar like 30 feet long

[opaque coyote]

I don't think there's an exact size... well one that isn't defunct anymore

[jade holly]

Maybe even longer

[opaque coyote]

I think there's old lore saying they're 6 feet tall unarmored

Definitely 7-8 feet armored though.

[daring creek]

Ain't alpharius one of the tallest among marines

[hallow saddle]

7-8 feet sounds right

9 feet is honestly too big

[valid needle]

No he’s one of the shortest

[crystal forum]

40k fans are really obsessed with height differences

[opaque coyote]

I feel like atp you're going into custodes territory

[jade holly]

I just like scale

[daring creek]

Its for the yaoi

[opaque coyote]

I want a big strong tall man to lift me up

[valid needle]

Omegon and Alpharius were the shortest, it was how they were easily able to pass off as space marines and have their sons switch places.

[crystal forum]

imagine star wars fans talking about if darth vader is taller than palpatine

[opaque coyote]

I am honest.

[jade holly]

I like seeing how fucking ginormous something is so I know whether I’m gonna be crushed into red mist or given a slap on the wrist

[opaque coyote]

Tbf he is

It's clear

[jade holly]

He’s like 6’8 no?

[hallow saddle]

more like

[jade holly]

Don’t

[opaque coyote]

If we only had books for SW, SW fans would definitely argue about that tbf

[hallow saddle]

is kit fisto taller than plo koon

[opaque coyote]

But because we have movies

It's clear which is taller

[hallow saddle]

is glup shitto taller than slave leia

[opaque coyote]

Depends if it's his brother or not

They have the exact same name

[crystal forum]

are clone troopers taller than storm troopers

makes you think

[opaque coyote]

Apparently it's tradition for the shitto race.

[daring creek]

Should I watch star wars

[hallow saddle]

is luke skywalker wearing a stormtrooper outfit shorter than the averager stormtrooper

[opaque coyote]

Yes

[crystal forum]

yeah watch the star wars movie

the one

[opaque coyote]

Just watch the trilogy

[hallow saddle]

watch the OG ones yeah

[opaque coyote]

The original trilogy firstly

Obviously

[valid needle]

Storm troopers are conscripts so can be any height whilst clones are all the same height as fett, so I’d say no.

[hallow saddle]

u cant really go wrong with those

[jade holly]

And then tbe shoes and prequel trilogy

The sequel trilogy isn’t real

It can’t hurt you

[crystal forum]

start with the christmas special

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, I'm gonna say yes purely based on average.

95% of clone troopers are literally the same person with zero variation while Stormtroopers are human and thus have variation.

And Clone Troopers are pretty tall.

[daring creek]

Ill shave you

No

[crystal forum]

you're assuming jango fett wasn't a manlet

[jade holly]

Just look at Jango Fett

Whatever height he is the clones are

[opaque coyote]

There are some defects/variations that have different heights

Along with even a couple of female clones

Bad Batch have different heights

[crystal forum]

imagine getting cast as the actor who plays an entire army of identical characters

job for life

[opaque coyote]

But yeah it should just be whatever the fuck Jango's height is. Along with adding or subtracting like 1 cm.

[crystal forum]

also the fact that all clone troopers are from new zealand

[opaque coyote]

Dee Bradley Baker

Honestly he actually makes them somewhat distinct

[crystal forum]

does he voice them in the animated show

[hallow saddle]

is he the voice actor?

[opaque coyote]

Yup. All of them

[hallow saddle]

ah yeah hes good

[opaque coyote]

Across 7 seasons

[crystal forum]

it's not like he's some A list actor so i guess he's not above that sort of stuff

[opaque coyote]

Including the Bad Batch I believe

[crystal forum]

isn't he cast as an old clone trooper veteran in one of the recent shows

homeless guy or something

i wonder how boba fett feels about the clone troopers

imagine there being an entire army of millions of clones of your dad

[opaque coyote]

He voices all of them

Every single clone soldier literally has his voice

[storm jungle]

Genuinely one of the most insane casting feats imo

[opaque coyote]

Even ones like Commander Cody, Bad Batch, etc.

[storm jungle]

he literally voices EVERY SINGLE one

and yet they somehow all sound unique

i dont get it

lmao

[opaque coyote]

Again, the thing that surprises me the most is how distinctive they sound

[storm jungle]

I just said that bitch

you're banned

[opaque coyote]

Especially ones like the Bad Batch

[crystal forum]

what the fuck are these commonly searched words

[opaque coyote]

I was typing it out when you said it

[storm jungle]

Sex, Breasts also Nova Troopers

it says right there

[storm jungle]

Die.

[crystal forum]

why is there a page on breasts

[storm jungle]

Because its important

[crystal forum]

is it because star wars fans need a wiki to explain to them what breasts are

[hallow saddle]

me searching for A

[storm jungle]

we are making a page on the 40k lexi for it now too to compete

the space marine section on the page is gonna the longest

[opaque coyote]

Nova trooper

[crystal forum]

marine honkers

[opaque coyote]

Helldivers looking ahh

[storm jungle]

no thats Shocker from Spiderman

[hallow saddle]

the hekk are nova troopers from

[opaque coyote]

Star Wars Galaxies apparently

Huh 2011

They're technically canon

Apparently they board ships specifically

No not 2011

Oopsie

My inner 40k fan took over and I didn't read

2011 is when the servers closed, it was released in 2003

A $15 monthly subscription back then.

[crystal forum]

wait why did the republic decide to clone jango anyways

[opaque coyote]

Jango good warrior

[crystal forum]

his memories and skills aren't cloned and that's like the entire reason he's a badass

[opaque coyote]

Make a lot of them

[opaque coyote]

They basically didn't think about that

They thought the base along with some training would be good enough

[crystal forum]

oh so the clones are regarded in universe as a partial failure

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, even before Palpatine took over, the Republic was definitely decaying as you can see.

That's why the whole clone wars is even a thing. A lot of outer planets wanted independence

[crystal forum]

yeah i know about that part

[opaque coyote]

Man this hits too close to home

[crystal forum]

but wouldn't mass conscripting people be easier

since they're just fighting a numbers game

you know i prob shouldn't care since the entire clone wars thing comes from a single throwaway line from the first movie lol

[opaque coyote]

Eh. Not really given that they could basically spam them.

They were better than mass conscription because of their fast aging

You can get one into the battlefield shorter than conscription

And more importantly, it won't cause people to be pissed that their son have to be sent to fight a war

[crystal forum]

damn

[opaque coyote]

Of course, the separatists used droids.

For similar reasons but it was also much more expensive

[crystal forum]

wait why didn't the republic just use drones too

[opaque coyote]

Too expensive

[crystal forum]

you're telling me the roger roger ass dudes are expensive to manufacture

[opaque coyote]

The reason why the Separatists used droids was partially so that they can give themselves the moral upper hand as well

[opaque coyote]

No, but ones like the droidekas are

Also they had to constantly reset them because they kept gaining sentience

[crisp heath]

the republic also didnt want to use droids because they werent living beings

and that could give the wrong impression for other planets

they were peace bringers and not militarized people like the separatists

[opaque coyote]

Also more importantly.

Droids are still robotic

[crisp heath]

yeah

more menacing and cold hearted

[opaque coyote]

In fact, it's frequently shown to be used against them

Clones can think on the fly

Adapt in the moment

And with the chip. They physically cannot betray you

Order 66 moment

[crisp heath]

it was better to have a face under the helmet that was familiar to the people the republic helped bring to peace rather than droids who give off military vibes

dont interact

less trustworthy

etc

[crystal forum]

oh right because this is SW and it's way more black and white than 40k

[opaque coyote]

Basically both droids and clones had their pros and cons.

[crisp heath]

yes

[opaque coyote]

In fact, the Separatists claimed they were more moral

Because they didn't use clones

They literally aren't alive.

[crisp heath]

such a fucking idiotic take its so fucking funny

[opaque coyote]

Ignore the spontaneous sentience that can happen

[crisp heath]

we are more moral!

cut to them conquering a planet to use them as test subjects for a bomb that melts off skin

[crystal forum]

but the B1's have a personality no

[opaque coyote]

The Separatist cause is actually correct...

But that's ignoring the sith manipulation and war crimes

[opaque coyote]

They don't initally

Again

Spontaneous sentience

[crisp heath]

yeah

[opaque coyote]

As the war went on, the periods between resets increased

[crystal forum]

commando drones are so cool

[crisp heath]

droids eventualy just kinda found a quirk/personality

[crystal forum]

they're like if B1's were main characters

[opaque coyote]

And so they turned from cold emotionless beings to...

"WAAAHHH OH MY GOD!"

slam

[crisp heath]

yup

[opaque coyote]

Still did their job though

Just with more screaming

[crisp heath]

i still remember the b1 droid that had boston accent in one of the prequel movies

"sir we have located the swamp"

[opaque coyote]

Basically the prequel period is actually much less black and white

Became black and white when Palpatine completed his plan

[crisp heath]

Pre Order 66 the galaxy was pretty colorful than black and white

then order 66 happened and the galaxy was in such a bad state and it slowly got worse

SWTOR is whats up

[young pecan]

Are there any books that have very good representations of Nurgle

[crisp heath]

lords of silence

the bile triology also has

representation of all the chaos gods

iirc

is iteven a triology i forgor

[hallow saddle]

eyah its a trilogy

and also i dont think it does?

it kind of has slaanesh

[opaque coyote]

Genuinely I think the most fascinating period in both Disney and Legends canon.

Is the clean up work after Palpatine died

[storm jungle]

Dont listen to any excuse regarding the reasons on why the droids didnt win stuff, its literally just "Palpatine planned it all and the game was rigged from the start"

a robotic army like the CIS would realistically always somewhat win over the Clones lol

[crisp heath]

literally

Palpatine orchastrated every single part of the war

[crystal forum]

why would they win

[storm jungle]

I said so

[crisp heath]

every win or loss was his choice

[storm jungle]

they look cooler

shut up jay

[crystal forum]

were the droids better than clones idk

[storm jungle]

they are twink robots, basically your type

you gotta agree with my side

[crisp heath]

Palpatine needed a group to demonize so he went with the droids, which are more easy to hate since they arent people

[crystal forum]

imagine if B1 droids were all commando droids

[crisp heath]

then the clones were thrown out and then he created the stormtroopers

[opaque coyote]

Possibly the worst decision he had made tbh

[crisp heath]

it really was but it was for propaganda reasons

[crystal forum]

well the empire definitely didn't fear mass conscriptions so that makes sense at least

[arctic talon]

Commando droids are my favorite battle droids

[crisp heath]

"an empire where the people can join" kind of thing and then it turned into mandatory service anyways

[opaque coyote]

Yup and also to be aligned with the trilogy

But that's the doylist side of things

[crisp heath]

i just hate how disney made canon stormtroopers have bad aim just cause they were written to never hit the protagonists because plot

old movies suck

[opaque coyote]

Said a lot, but some of the instances had them intentionally miss under Vader's orders

[heady rivet]

My favorite Palpatine fact is he made Human supremacy part of his policy as a PURE grift. He didnt believe any of it. He had multiple non-human lovers. It was purely political and pragmatic racism

[crisp heath]

he was racist

so there is that

he didnt like aliens

[heady rivet]

Never ask a racist the race of his gf

[crystal forum]

they have one of the best episodes in the animated show

also they're fucking terrifying

[opaque coyote]

The only instance I did actually chuckle at one "bad stormtrooper aim" joke is during Rebels where Rex was like

"How the fuck do they aim with these helmets?"

[crystal forum]

the animated show gave me nightmares as a kid in some episodes

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-wars-confederacy-of-independent-systems-separatists-commando-droids-gif-11803953589326743638

[crystal forum]

like that assassin droid that uses a clone trooper corpse as decoy

[arctic talon]

lol

[crystal forum]

fucking kids show

[heady rivet]

He was completely neutral on them, its just human supremacy made a good base for the Empire. His TOP GUY was non-human (in both canons) and he was chronically addicted to an Umbaran woman

[arctic talon]

Watching the Umbara stuff in middle school was funny

lol

[opaque coyote]

"Vader. I am... colonizing the alien races from... within."

Kuuu...kssssshhh

"Could you please at least get sound proof walls. I can hear it from inside my maintenance tube."

flashback to Anakin floating in the repair goop trying to sleep

"UNLIMITTEEEDDD POOWWEEERRR"

"maybe I should have let Obi Wan kill me"

[heady rivet]

Palpatine breaking out the plunger for this baddie

[crisp heath]

idk the way he talks to yoda in the prequel movies during the last fight sounds pretty racist

and also uhhh

racism will give you infinite soldiers in a galaxy as big as star wars

[arctic talon]

Massive galaxy

Most common race is humans

[crystal forum]

a human being racist towards just one alien race in a setting with thousands of races is a very funny idea

[opaque coyote]

It's definitely a mixture of grift and genuine racism.

But mostly grift

[arctic talon]

What did George Lucas mean by this

[heady rivet]

Ome-third of the entire galaxy, iirc

[crisp heath]

some are very fucking deserved
like the tuskens

https://tenor.com/bkB3z.gif

[crystal forum]

also the empire being like 99% human

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/XH1Ou5MKhnU?si=G2EcM2a233OI0F7d

[arctic talon]

Tbf that’s because they’re racist

[crystal forum]

actually is there a single alien empire guy in the original trilogy

[heady rivet]

Its moreso Palpatine being a Sith that only cares about himself so really his racism is misanthropy

[arctic talon]

No

[crisp heath]

he gotta recognize credit where is due
Thrawn was too much of a goat for him to kill

[arctic talon]

Only expanded universe stuff

[crisp heath]

maybe if you consider the spy

that follows han

[opaque coyote]

If you think about it.

The first Star Wars movie isn't about Luke becoming a Hero.

It's about him getting out of the hood.

[crisp heath]

in the first movie

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

Oh that dude

[heady rivet]

And Mas Amedda was his TOP GUY for decades and he's just some tailhead

[arctic talon]

Yeah that’s our single non human empire member

lol

[crisp heath]

during when he was pretending to be the good guy tho

[crystal forum]

empire is evil
empire is racist
empire is clearly fascist stand in

"but their uniforms are so cool!"

[arctic talon]

I’m palpatines top guy

[opaque coyote]

Genuinely wonder what happened to him.

Cause Bad Batch still has him around Palpatine

[crisp heath]

that's literally every fascist reign

[arctic talon]

There are very few facist empires with lame looking uniforms

[opaque coyote]

Before you destroy the lesser races.

Firstly you gotta have drip.

Very important

[crisp heath]

dont ask hugo boss who they served in the 1940's

[heady rivet]

And the Empire

[crystal forum]

just riffing on the average star wars fan lol

we're 40k fans we're even worse

[crisp heath]

i forgor he was stil there during the initial phases of le empire

[heady rivet]

They didnt design the uniform they just produced em btw

[heady rivet]

What DID the writers mean by this?

[crisp heath]

"we were just following orders"

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think Clone Troopers generally look cooler.

The stormtrooper helmets do look a bit dumb

[arctic talon]

@crystal forum what about the empire from hit game battle nations

[crisp heath]

this isnt a hear me out its a pull me out

[heady rivet]

God that game made middle school bearable...

[crystal forum]

I SPOTTED YOU IN THE SERVER MONTHS AGO

[arctic talon]

It’s back btw

lol

[heady rivet]

I am aware

[languid meadow]

"Hear me out" and it's a conventionally attractive person

[crisp heath]

thats why i said its a pull me out

[arctic talon]

Rue return of my childhood mobile game when I have disposable income

[heady rivet]

Had a FOUNDATIONAL effect on what I thought was cool looking

[crisp heath]

read the entire message

[arctic talon]

I can finally get the shitty premium stuff I wanted

When I was like 9

[heady rivet]

Being a kid and staring longingly at cool tanks and raptors...

Ah, the nostalgia

[opaque coyote]

Death Troopers do admittedly look cool as fuck.

[crystal forum]

yeah it's great. now i can finally hate the game as an adult

[arctic talon]

I do not understand how I as a child endured how ass resource management is early game

lol

[crystal forum]

i was a very dumb teenager too

i do remember watching the office for the first time while playing BN

so that was fun

[opaque coyote]

Had a lot less to do

Clash of Clans is dog shit for F2Ps

And when I came back, I definitely felt that

Holy shit, whoever the fuck decided to make the timers last for days should die

I fucking hate mobile game timers

[crystal forum]

what's your guild wolf

[opaque coyote]

Whoever originally started it

I hope you burn

[arctic talon]

UWU lmao

[opaque coyote]

UwU

[arctic talon]

Not the comp branch

The casual one

[crystal forum]

lol i almost joined that one because i had an argument with one of the members and we made up

they were using art without credit as their discord banner and it annoyed me

then the shitass server mod came in and said i was right but i was being annoying about it so he muted me

[storm jungle]

Jay you are right but you are being annoying so im muting you for 1 week

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-wall-invincible-invincible-meme-omniman-gif-17498721321987612331

[crisp heath]

mod aboose

[arctic talon]

Imagine if they make the next boss strike naval for the ultimate torment nexus

[storm jungle]

Timed out for 60 seconds 🫡

[arctic talon]

1984

[storm jungle]

that'll teach him

[crisp heath]

dilara

can you time me out for 67 seconds

[storm jungle]

no

[crisp heath]

ahw

[crystal forum]

my mammoth battleships and ironclad are ready

[arctic talon]

Honestly next boss strike is either raiders again or silver wolves

[crystal forum]

nah it'll be the tank guy

[arctic talon]

Because I think rebels would probably chew up the player base and spit them back out lol

[arctic talon]

Oh that dude

[crystal forum]

there was a bug before last boss strike

where we could see the boss strike banner

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah

And he showed up

[crystal forum]

which might mean we'll get mega tanks before next boss strike

[arctic talon]

What was the rebel dude they did a boss strike for once

And then never again

In the past

[crystal forum]

idk

[arctic talon]

1 Level increase for mega tanks + ancient sentinel only would be hilarious

[crystal forum]

im still trying to level my vets for AS

shit will be annoying af

[arctic talon]

Ngl

Why do vets normal guns do explosive damage lol

[crystal forum]

armor damage or some shit

what was your score last boss strike

i want to know how much of a degen you are

[arctic talon]

I don’t remember deadass

[jade holly]

Pixelated but this is how big Ammentar is on tabletop apparently, I have no idea if this image is leaked or officially shown so if I need to delete it I will

[arctic talon]

It was like mid as fuck

[crystal forum]

at least a million?

[arctic talon]

Nah lower lol

It was like

[crystal forum]

mine

[storm jungle]

Nobody cares about "unlawful" leaks here

[crystal forum]

add me wolf

[storm jungle]

post at your whim

[crystal forum]

i run my VF's all day

free gears

[jade holly]

Noice then

[storm jungle]

[jade holly]

Here’s the full image then

[arctic talon]

I was like 150k or something. I was like level 25 when the boss strike started lol

[crystal forum]

yeah this isn't some pussy ass partnered server

[arctic talon]

I’ll add you

[jade holly]

The one Space Marine getting ready to throw hands with the Nightbringer with just a chainsword

[hallow saddle]

mmmm the nightbringer

sick model

im more jazzed about him than the new guy

[jade holly]

I can’t tell whether Ammentar looks taller or shorter than I thought he’d be

[crystal forum]

i love servers that are like "oh we're partnered so we need to ban literally every swear word known to man"

THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT BY DISCORD

[jade holly]

And the game the server is for has violence, gore and swearing

[crystal forum]

i looked it up

[hallow saddle]

nightbringer looks taller by quite a bit

[crystal forum]

nowhere does it state that swears need to be banned

so fuck you random mod guy in the enlisted server

[jade holly]

Yeah he’s a C’tan shard model

Ammentar is still an 80mm base though

[hallow saddle]

ammentar is pretty much the rtight size by the looks of it

[arctic talon]

5e reference

[hallow saddle]

did anyone see daz latham's custom nightbringer sculpt from like a year ago

id love to see them both side by side

obviously his is sick af

oh wow it was 3 years ago

hes the king of hobby

[crystal forum]

thigh?

[hallow saddle]

the president of hobby

[heady rivet]

Cop in a city where public urination is allowed

[storm jungle]

[dapper gyro]

My man skips no leg day.

[misty vector]

Oooh thats cool, is this a necron unit?

Love the colors

[nocturne jetty]

So many RACES!

[young pecan]

And all of them hate each other

[languid meadow]

4 of them are human

even more if you count the smaller ones under the imperium outside of marines

and admech

[storm jungle]

Its just like real life!

[young pecan]

They still hate each other

Yeah

LMAO

[storm jungle]

[surreal nest]

Got a new gundam set

[young pecan]

Show the class

[surreal nest]

Ummm a master gwade

It was either that or this

[young pecan]

That long ass minigun seems unwieldy

[rocky gale]

Perfect for a Gundam

[jade holly]

I like how they’re all fairly normal

Then Necrons are just

Fuck you looking at?

[young pecan]

They keep getting woken up from their naps

You can't say you wouldn't give the same glare

[hallow saddle]

ya it's darren latham's own personal sculpt of the Nightbringer from a couple years back (way before they announced the upcoming new version)

• painted by him

[jade holly]

Grandpa’s brought his beating stick this time

He’s been woken up too many times

[arctic talon]

Michigan my GOAT

My favorite probable war criminal

[dapper gyro]

Having Songbird alone makes it one of the stronger ACore.

[arctic talon]

Honestly of the preset loadouts

Ligertail is nasty

[jade holly]

Wait Armored Core has model kits??

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[jade holly]

[rose thorn]

I thought armored core was apart of gundum? (I never played AC)

[arctic talon]

Nah

[dapper gyro]

I have the NightFall Acore.

[jade holly]

It’s a FromSoft IP

[rose thorn]

Ohh

[arctic talon]

Armored core is fromsofts mechaslop IP

lol

And it’s great

And by great I mean don’t play any of the games before 3

[jade holly]

You can make your mech a tank and drift it

With quad miniguns

[arctic talon]

4, 5 and 6 are all very worth playing

3 is worth it if you’re okay with esoteric nonsense

6 is the only one available without emulation tho

[jade holly]

Isn’t patches and the moonlight greatsword somehow in Armored Core?

[dapper gyro]

It is their pocket IP when they want to slap people around.

[arctic talon]

Patches originated in armored core lol

[jade holly]

We can never escape him lmao

[arctic talon]

Moonlight greatsword also originated in armored core

It’s kind of mid in AC6 tho

Can’t use it to slap people around

Only shoot out beams

[rose thorn]

Looks neat

[jade holly]

Wait

What if Alpha Legion

Are just clones of Patches

[dapper gyro]

Btw, Gundam is genrally 20m tall, while most main combat Acore are only about 10-12m range.

Urban combat cores (Acore5) are 6-8m.

[arctic talon]

Nvm my bad moonlight originated from Kingsfield

NEXTs are slightly bigger at around 15m iirc

I could be wrong

Still funny how the final boss of verdict day is a NEXT

Hope AC6 gets either a dlc or is connected to AC7

I like the corporations they’ve setup and it would be a shame to only get one game with them

[dapper gyro]

Fromsoft games all use the same dimensional scale in their games. Next is about the same size.

[quasi temple]

Im imagining a death robot 50 m tall.

Metal Gear

[sacred ginkgo]

Did a perfect grade after surgery last month

[dapper gyro]

Funny enough, that includes Kingsfield.

[arctic talon]

Fun

Honestly hope AC7 does away with ACS and repair kits lol

[dapper gyro]

Unfortunately, metal gears are not usually that big.

[arctic talon]

Repair kits should just be baked in HP wise tbh

ACS I just dislike for personal reasons but whatever

I think the stun is weird and kind of ruins the flow of combat lol

[quasi temple]

Ah. Ill be honest, paying attention to the story in any of the metal gear games was... difficult.

So i had just made an assumption thag Metal Gear was big

I do recall in Revengeance the metal gear was like 5 stories tall

[jade holly]

Which CSM models would realistically rep which chaos undivided legion?