40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

genuinely insane

[rocky gale]

That would be a Roman Catholic

[spare osprey]

i was able to convince him it was sudan lmfao

[rocky gale]

We have the distinction between Catholic and Roman Catholic

[outer wave]

Feeling that, I almost wanna see America do a French Revolution but minus the Reign of Terror

[opaque coyote]

I swear this shit is why people became fucking anti-Semitic.

By the way, if it wasn't obvious, don't be anti-Semitic. Thank you.

[heady rivet]

Reminder that Israel has repeatedly awarded Israeli agents for attacking the US. See the Lavon Affair, where Israel admits they did it and praises the agents

[storm jungle]

All people do is record ICE agents and sometimes herd against them to scare them off

no one punches them

no one hits them

no one does anything

fuck me

its depressing

[opaque coyote]

That's because if you do.

You get shot

[storm jungle]

Doesnt matter

[heady rivet]

The real kicker too? This is the same America that was in Vietnam for the Gulf of Tonkin

[valid needle]

Mr Trump happened

[opaque coyote]

Nobody wants to get capped in the head

[spare osprey]

tbf if you do nothing you get shot too, as proven recently

[storm jungle]

if ICE tried that shit in turkey we'd beat them to near death with wooden clubs

[opaque coyote]

Or get them and their families arrested

[storm jungle]

its fucking embarrassing

[outer wave]

Also the fact that the admin will use that as a justification to fully become a police state not that it wasnt one already

[dark moon]

Based Turkey moment.

[storm jungle]

Yeah it makes no difference lol

[crystal forum]

watching a fucking HORDE of american bystanders yelling shit while the agent calmly cuffs the innocent person is so annoying

[arctic talon]

I just got a crazy algo pull

lol

[storm jungle]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

[arctic talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcaDoq44Lag

[storm jungle]

Yeah like I know "easier to say this behind a keyboard" but like god sakes DO SOMETHING

[crystal forum]

but whatever at least the yelling actually intimidates the ICE fuckers sometimes and it makes them back off

[spare osprey]

you ever seen those vids of ppl doing stupid shit outside the detainment sites? saw some folks doing fucking yoga to protest

[arctic talon]

people don't want to get shot is why 💀

[hallow saddle]

theres a reason trump declared a national emergency on his first day in office (after 90 days he can invoke the insurrection act if necessary - which is hanging over everyone's heads at the moment)

[arctic talon]

mostly

yeah that also

[spare osprey]

like what are we doing these are NAZIS

[arctic talon]

people are afraid to escalate bcs of that

[storm jungle]

So you just let people get sent to prison and die from infection and starvation instead, ingenius lol

genuinely dont know what will it take at this point

[arctic talon]

never said it was a smart decision lol

[dark moon]

Ironic, considering he was at the head of an Insurrection back in 2020.

I never forgot

[opaque coyote]

True

But then they would hit back.

It would become a situation where exponentially more people are harmed. And nobody wants to be the Pariah.

[spare osprey]

Folk are afraid to do much more.
Plenty got a lot to lose.

[storm jungle]

ICE could prob murder 30 people in a protest and JD/Donald would gaslight the entire public that "it was nothing"

[spare osprey]

idk if anyone does tbh with you

[heady rivet]

Israel needs to foster this so they can claim they need to exist. Its why all anti-Zionism is "Anti-semitism". Israel has been implicated in carrying out bombings of synagogues in Europe btw to push this narrative

[outer wave]

The government shooting into protestors and being labelled terrorists

[hallow saddle]

everything they do is fucking hypocritical

[storm jungle]

Doubt that ngl

[spare osprey]

there's a big feeling of helplessness

[opaque coyote]

They're labeling Renee Good as a terrorist btw

[heady rivet]

Shoutout to current events in Iran btw

[storm jungle]

part of a "woke militia" too lol

[opaque coyote]

And that she deserved it

Which pisses me off

[opaque coyote]

Conservative estimate of 2000 people

Jesus Christ

[crystal forum]

when there's literally nothing left to lose and people stop clinging to the hope that they can be comfortable while the world is burning

[outer wave]

Oh and she was gay, so therefore she DESERVED having 3 bullets into her head

[dark moon]

I honestly believe that those bastards stole both the 2016 and 2024 elections.

All the evidence in 2020 shows that they were trying to rig it anyways.

[storm jungle]

Yeah, i guess 3 more years of tyranny and maybe people will then get the hint.

[spare osprey]

Fox news: she had pronouns in her bio btw

[storm jungle]

And thats a huge maybe.

[spare osprey]

i genuinely hate these ppl

[hallow saddle]

same bestie

[spare osprey]

They would.

I just gotta finish Uni.
Take care of this damn town and my moms. Pray there's a chance something big happens and help where I can.

[crystal forum]

like most people still do not understand that THIS is it

[heady rivet]

Theocracy where less than 10% attend mosque services. Bad times for the Ayatollah

[hallow saddle]

like an actual burning hatred

im not even american

[crystal forum]

this is the pivotal moment of the century

[storm jungle]

All you can do really at this point unfortunately yeah 🤝

[spare osprey]

i've lived around them my whole life and know there's no excuse for their hatred

[storm jungle]

Like i live in a shithole 🇹🇷 too but im glad our government is just a few notches below the Maduro type of government. Id genuinely stuff myself into a barrel to escape if i was in the US rn

[rocky gale]

They see themselves as Catholic because they claim to be the continuation of the Celtic Church of St Patrick (Insular Christianity) which was a pre reformation church which had a tenuous relation with Rome, basically they were their own thing and ignored anything outside Ireland (including the Pope), only coming under the sway of Rome due to English conquering Ireland and forcing them to pay Tithes. So when the Reformation happened they adopted some of it's traditions while also saying "We're still the Insular Church and we technically never actually swore to Rome, so we're both Protestant and Catholic"

[opaque coyote]

All I wanted to do was have a life.

That was too much to ask for

Clearly

[spare osprey]

and i should say, idk why more people didn't see Renee good coming

[heady rivet]

Oh he absolutely didnt. The stolen election narrative exists to excuse the failings of Democrats, similar to what he played in 2020. Its also cope that the incredibly American moment isnt "REALLY" what America wanted. He really did just win, thats bad enough and denying it helps nothing

[spare osprey]

when ICE was on my campus they pulled their guns on our campus police and shoved them to the ground

they followed the kid they took from his house to the school

[opaque coyote]

Cause half of the country watches Fox fucking News

[spare osprey]

they've been looking for a fight

[arctic talon]

I see, interesting

[storm jungle]

What the fuck man

[arctic talon]

Nah Trump absolutely won the election legitimately

the average US voter is like

genuinely a semi sentient amoeba

there's a fun website

[crystal forum]

i genuinely want to clobber some of these ICE agents to death

[arctic talon]

to guess what a person voted for

one moment

[dark moon]

Oh I know the Dems failed, they continually let the Republicans walk all over them. I was so fed up with it all after the 2 impeachments went nowhere in spite of all the evidence.

[storm jungle]

I was watching a Bernie video where he visits a failing coaltown in the US's "trumpy" side.

[storm jungle]

And hes asking people why they voted for him

and they say shit like

"Did he do that?"

"No."

💀

[outer wave]

Remember when he'd make groceries cheaper and he'd end the Ukraine war in 1 day?

[spring cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231286447131328544/1459033975581577318/FAX.gif

[outer wave]

Not just one day, the first day of office

[spare osprey]

yeah videos of that shit spread a ton, then our school tried to word their official response in a way that it made it seem like the kid didn't get taken

[opaque coyote]

The only thing he did was make like some medicines cheaper

[arctic talon]

play this game lol

https://www.americansurveycenter.org/quiz-beyond-the-ballot/

This shit is so fucking funny

[spare osprey]

AND THEN DHS LIED ABOUT THE KID

[dark moon]

I’m tired boss, so fucking tired of it all.

[spare osprey]

oh my god i'm remembering all this shit

[outer wave]

Didnt he also just make insulin so much more expensive?

[arctic talon]

ICE also got in a fight with campus police at my college campus 💀

[spare osprey]

DHS and the head of it Krist Noem lied about the fact the kid had a criminal record

they said he was a sex offender

[dark moon]

Hope your campus police beat the shit out of the Gestapo.

[heady rivet]

Everything is FUCKED and Copmala Harris comes in like "When I have power (has power) I will keep everything the same. Here is Dick Cheney to endorse me" and then was shocked she lost

[rocky gale]

Dem's continueing their solid plan of saying "Hey! Stop! You can't do that!" for the next 3 years while Trump dismantles the nation piece by piece infront of their eyes

[spare osprey]

but he was an education major, something you literally cannot study for if you're on the registry

[storm jungle]

Bro imagine your literal classmate getting fucking abducted like that

id legit dont know what to do at that point

💀

[arctic talon]

They in fact won 💀

[arctic talon]

bruh I knew someone who got abudcted by ICE, they're also an american citizen and they got released 2 weeks later in bumfuck nowhere

[opaque coyote]

Playing devil's advocate here.

Partially this is due to them in the minority.

But at the same time, they could still do more to stop it. They just aren't.

For fucks sake they're still funding ICE

[arctic talon]

like they didn't even drop him off around where they nabbed him

not actually in the middle of nowhere

but still

like ???

[spare osprey]

the first kid they took here we still don't know what happened to

[rocky gale]

"If you break the federal and state law, while overstepping your remit of executive power a dozen more times, we'll start getting really upset Mr"

[hallow saddle]

sending a few more strongly-worded letters

[crystal forum]

it's straight up complacency at this point

[hallow saddle]

its really gonna make a difference this time

[spare osprey]

i hate dems so much

[outer wave]

Not surprised; ICE is comprised of mainly untrained, unfit individuals

[heady rivet]

Aw well, another geriatric Democrat old enougb to vote against the 1964 Civil Rights bill oughtta fix this

[dark moon]

Seeing this bs over and over was what opened my eyes to the fact that no matter what we do, nothing will ever really matter. Everything’s already controlled by either lobbyist groups, corporate interests, and various “political elites” in the country.

[daring creek]

I don't think they really gave a fuck. More people looking for money at the end of the day.

It's another business.

[spare osprey]

Man.
I am the greatly demoralized.

[arctic talon]

oh my god bruh, legendary pull on this quiz

[storm jungle]

We live in bad times

[crystal forum]

do you hate minorities?
do you have anger issues?
if yes to both, welcome aboard

[opaque coyote]

The first 10 amendments are growing more important

[storm jungle]

idk anymore either

[spare osprey]

Someone.

Tell me 'bout the felinids, y'all.

[spare osprey]

i hate super super left morons too tbf. like you can't be so revolutionary that you think voting does nothing, but also so compliant to think voting is all you need to do

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah guys

[opaque coyote]

Kroot's are scared

[storm jungle]

can we uhh move to a bit more positive topics rn

[opaque coyote]

Of them

Apparently

[arctic talon]

Okay

[outer wave]

They absolutely are

[arctic talon]

lets do something funny

[storm jungle]

as much as i usually encourage this stuff

lets not get too depressed

[daring creek]

real yeah

[opaque coyote]

Yeah sorry

[outer wave]

Mhmmm

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-silly-silly-cat-gif-1731118170300952818

[heady rivet]

They're called Felinids and they're from a planet called Carlos Mcconnell

Thats it. Thats all the lore.

[spare osprey]

we all looking forward to the super surprise fallen reveals in four days

[daring creek]

Lets think about kitty cats

[spare osprey]

El gatos.
:]

[opaque coyote]

Fallen moment

[opaque coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248972334327791616/1243096785103097856/togif.gif

[hallow saddle]

lets go to a live morrow reaction:

[outer wave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747995745247953097/1330031215394164756/togif.gif

[daring creek]

Theres a grey cat across the street, his name is smokey I think

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/209843216227368962/1459768234306834442/Screenshot_20260110_223417_YouTube.jpg?ex=6965235c&is=6963d1dc&hm=8592ca5ce21a1e679588d5df5d8b90c40d4b3ef5e19c063b9b8818af3420e0ea&=&format=webp

[spare osprey]

i just need smth man

[daring creek]

I knew him since he was small

[woven lily]

Why are we talking about politics in the lore channel anyways? Wanted to see some esoteric Warhammer lore, not real life lore.

[crystal forum]

"even if it raises prices or costs jobs"

those poor oil rig workers, wherever shall they go now?

[opaque coyote]

Sorry we're moving on that now

[daring creek]

Like he used to sleep behind the glass window

[arctic talon]

this happens randomly sometimes

DOn't worry about it

[outer wave]

^

[arctic talon]

Anyways esoteric 40k lore

catachan face eaters

[daring creek]

he was so tiny..

[arctic talon]

amiright

[daring creek]

He was like

[arctic talon]

did you know they have a piece of offical art

[daring creek]

the weight of a feather

[opaque coyote]

Still would

[arctic talon]

behold, the face eater in question

[spare osprey]

Should I believe the female Seer when she says they're actually quite beautiful?

[arctic talon]

uhhh

maybe?

[outer wave]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[opaque coyote]

What the fuck is that

[arctic talon]

Grekh says they look like normal humans and have footlong claws

[daring creek]

need

[arctic talon]

and fur

But Grekh is a kroot

and he also says all humans look the same

including ogryns

[heady rivet]

Named, by pure chance, after a guy named Face-Eater (No relation)

[arctic talon]

so maybe not the best pov

[crystal forum]

tell your pfp artist that boobs dont look like that

[arctic talon]

Its a catachan face eater

it eats

faces

well

it eats your whole head, but it eats your face first

[crystal forum]

gravity defying boobs annoy me

[daring creek]

what is ur pfp

[outer wave]

Womon

[rocky gale]

It's very distracting

[daring creek]

Suddenly, I want to read a particular manga.

[spare osprey]

Shush.
I have seen boobs like that in my dang workplace.
Some hospital staff are just built different.

[heady rivet]

Imported to Necromunda too, in a world class move

[crystal forum]

giant mahonas

[daring creek]

if I can fucking find it

[rocky gale]

[arctic talon]

On the Death World of Catachan, a planet known for its hostile lifeforms, the Catachan Face-Eater is considered to be one of the most unpleasant. In its natural environment the creature hangs from low branches, near water sources, or anywhere prey is known to travel. When a prey creature comes in range the Face-Eater will drop, or use its powerful muscles to fling itself in the direction of the creature's head. Once attached it will not only suffocate its prey but also use powerful digestive acids to begin to feed as it slowly kills. The creature is difficult to remove once attached as any damage dealt to it naturally travels to the prey it is attached to.

Once it has succeeded in killing its prey the creature lays a clutch of eggs which hatch in a matter of hours as larva-like maggots. These maggots then feast upon the remains of its parent's kill.

[crystal forum]

huge knockers

big hooters

[rocky gale]

[opaque coyote]

My personal pet headcanon (ba dum tss) that I've mentioned before is that

Felinids shed their coats in higher temperatures and look like the anime cat person.

In colder temperatures they grow fur and look more like furries.

This constant temperature adaptation has lead to confusion. Combine that with the administratum being the administratium and that's why we have no photos.

[dark moon]

These are my favorite lore memes. :)

[spare osprey]

Besides.
I'd look like her if I could.

[outer wave]

Gravity defying doesnt annoy me as much as "boobs that are somehow bigger than the character's arms"

[vagrant fox]

post the excerpt for a grot finding a human larvae. That's a real happy one

[opaque coyote]

Tbf

That can happen

[rocky gale]

Wouldn't we all

[crystal forum]

where's the sag???

[arctic talon]

I'm quite happy with how I look

smh

also I found the autopistol the hivescums is based on

[dark moon]

Magnanimous honkers?

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/195404877688602624/1460074760581939244/Voss_Autopistol_modified.png?ex=69659815&is=69644695&hm=e6df8d66ea4d776ce130343e3f72ed4b54712b2fb10236fbb75daa1848d02a62&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

its from vraks

lol

[opaque coyote]

Silenced

[crystal forum]

there's nothing wrong with big boobs they should just look the part

[heady rivet]

Some genius thought having this on Necromunda would help with rodents

[spare osprey]

She's from Haydee 2.
I... forget the artist...

[arctic talon]

I mean it did eat them

[outer wave]

Oh I love big boobs, but I get peeved when they get huge to the point they look disproportionate to the rest of the whole body

[arctic talon]

it also eats people

[heady rivet]

[arctic talon]

but yknow

it did exterminate the vermin

it also just

is now eating humans

[crystal forum]

mfer it's the first result on the lexi how did it take you this long

[arctic talon]

Idk

[crystal forum]

i recognized it the moment the update came out

[arctic talon]

I don't actually read Lexi very often

bcs I have the actual sources

lol

in PDF form

[crystal forum]

it's literally munda

[rocky gale]

Sometimes you gotta take the scenic route to knowledge

[opaque coyote]

Imagine they only ate their faces and not the rest of it.

For some reason, the face eater only eats faces. No matter the size of their prey

[heady rivet]

Another tourist mogged

[heady rivet]

The babies eat the rest

[storm jungle]

You should. I work on these pages a lot

[storm jungle]

"Lets stop talking about the brutal suppression of thousands of innocents to instead talk about the fictional brutal suppression of thousands of innocents"

[arctic talon]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GxdjtDdWIAA19YB.gif

[opaque coyote]

Delicious

[rocky gale]

I always get distracted by how pretty the Nurses eyes are

[outer wave]

Im gonna say one thing pertaining to that, but I noticed how once we changed topic, they dipped

[daring creek]

everytime you ask a question without reading the lexicanum page

[storm jungle]

Theres a whole sub-group of Trials fans gooning over that nurse

[daring creek]

dilara cries

[storm jungle]

I do love evil doctors so.......

[opaque coyote]

Dilara crying more than Magnus

[valid needle]

Konrad Curze was less corrupt than this government

[vagrant fox]

They're out there gooning for gooseberry it's a nightmare in there

[crystal forum]

these people only post here to say that they disagree with the topic

[heady rivet]

Konrad Curze did nothing wrong ever

[arctic talon]

they like lurking

lol

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/209843216227368962/1459745784395333794/IMG_6938.png?ex=69650e73&is=6963bcf3&hm=804276b9345d56ec573205e4449d0015e66f41eb994b2f74b8d0844405ecc296&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=961&height=960

[crystal forum]

no they just dont like the specific politics being discussed

that's not lurking it's being a shithead

[outer wave]

Remember Heretical Nerd? Were you there for him, where some grey name came in saying we should be banned for talking about Charlie Kirk, then said that he just wanted to have a good debate or some shit, then tried to get the mods here to ban us? After, never said a thing and I think they left

[arctic talon]

Ammentar should blow up the setting

[spare osprey]

I moderately agree.
Do like naturally big individuals.
But.
I am a whore.
I like Haydee from her hit video game.
And I like Graciebon.
So.
Mnyeh.

[opaque coyote]

ZAMN

[crystal forum]

makes me cringe every fucking time i see this space king shit

[crystal forum]

it's literally a fucking gang sign

[arctic talon]

yeah

[valid needle]

Sir that’s a Nightlord

[crystal forum]

like a real gang sign

[arctic talon]

yeah

lol

[heady rivet]

And?

[spare osprey]

Are Bloods still around?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

the bloods are still around

same with the crips

both are just much less prominant now

[outer wave]

How are those guys still around

[rocky gale]

Gangs tend to do that

[crystal forum]

which makes even less sense

[valid needle]

Drug dealing makes money

[heady rivet]

Biggie and Tupac shot and killed each other its just that Biggie took longer to die because the bullets had to go through his fat

[arctic talon]

wdym how, they're gangs they have a ton of staying power

[crystal forum]

anyways pasty white guys doing actual fucking gang signs because they saw it in space king

[arctic talon]

for better or for worse a lot of people growing up in the environments they fester

lead to them joining Gangs for a sense of some sort of order

[valid needle]

Its just a meme it’s not that deep bro

[arctic talon]

to how fucked their lives are

[storm jungle]

Big Smoke ahh lore

[outer wave]

I wonder how many got shot for doing that sign in public as a joke

[crystal forum]

also comedically like the blackest fucking gang that could be chosen

[opaque coyote]

Aren't most NL criminals and gangers mainly?

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-sa-gta-san-andreas-grand-theft-auto-san-andreas-gta-grand-theft-auto-gif-17464590

[crystal forum]

the bloods of all gangs

[valid needle]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Basically any incel they can find

[valid needle]

The legion was heavily corrupted

[spare osprey]

Getting gangbangers come through my ER is such a trip, man.
Talking to them like they're normal human beings just... pacifies 'em.

[arctic talon]

for the Legion yes

[crystal forum]

anybody who doesn't recognize it's a real gang sign doesn't go to places where they can get shot

[opaque coyote]

...so all SMs

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

Low hanging fruit had to pick it

[arctic talon]

a lot of people in gangs irl really are victims of circumstance

[opaque coyote]

[heady rivet]

Incels dont exist on Hive worlds thats why there's Hives. Society needs a sexless caste. Bring back the court eunuchs 🗣️

[storm jungle]

[daring creek]

I thought space marines only recruited kids

[valid needle]

Not Dark Angels, Dark Angels are very le progressive big nice and caring chongus marines

[rocky gale]

When is it Incels ascend to become Wizards?

[arctic talon]

Criminals and gangers can be kids

this may shock you

lol

[daring creek]

I know but I assumed like

[opaque coyote]

DA as soon as they get a whiff of Fallen:

[daring creek]

under 10

[crystal forum]

wdym they're still pretty big

[arctic talon]

They're way less prominaint then they used to be

[crystal forum]

gangs have only gotten bigger since the 90's

[arctic talon]

not saying they're not around

but they're much less prominant now due to other gangs

popping up

[heady rivet]

So you can recruit adults. Guilliman straight up says this. Its just easier to indoctrinate kids. During the Great Crusade they would take pretty much anyone that could survive the process

[crystal forum]

yeah because there's just more gangs

[arctic talon]

yes

the bloods and crips are less prominant because of that

literally nothing I said earlier was wrong

[heady rivet]

Guilliman basically says all these weird rituals loyalists do for their novices is completely uneccessary, its just a culture and mindset thing

[arctic talon]

I mean children/preteens are best for conversion into marines

the survival rate is better

[crystal forum]

anyways annoys the hell out of me to see a real gang sign used in space king like it's so fucking wrong

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/got-to-go-running-run-run-fast-bye-gif-16162030

[outer wave]

Question: is it possible for SMs to have flashbacks to their previous lives as humans, despite indoctrination?

[crystal forum]

people die for that stupid fucking sign

[valid needle]

Luther being one

[storm jungle]

Yeah this is a thing people forget

[heady rivet]

Yeah but the Great Crusade Imperium had the resources to spare to just mass produce and deal eith the failures

[spare osprey]

I've yet to meet any sort of OG.
Young fellas with babydaddy energy and a poor kid that came in with a bulletproof vest on, but that's about it.

[dark moon]

I believe there is lore precedent for that, yeah.

[valid needle]

He was well into his 40s by the time he became a space marine

[opaque coyote]

Also I think it's generally harder for the adults to accept geneseed

Even ignoring the whole indoctrination

[heady rivet]

Many do. Space Wolves brag about banging women for literal csnturies

[outer wave]

Would be funny if it turned out Titus was a ganger from Ultramar or something

[opaque coyote]

And how it's harder on adults for obvious reasons

[outer wave]

Damn

[arctic talon]

mostly because they're not the ones going out and shooting people

they

aren't the footsoldiers

[heady rivet]

Ultramarines recruit from military academies

[arctic talon]

the UM have a lot of dif sources of recruits

lol

[heady rivet]

Ultramar nobles brag about having sons and cousins that got in and shit

[spare osprey]

Eh. Yeah.
Fair point.
Too busy with fent zombies...

[valid needle]

Not all chapters wipe their memories but yes.

[outer wave]

Yeah I know some chapters dont wipe memories

[heady rivet]

They also lowkey swipe from successors sometimes

[outer wave]

But I was wondering for the ones that do

[arctic talon]

genesis chapter

lol

[opaque coyote]

I think there's a book scene where a dreadnought flashes back to his childhood

[arctic talon]

yes, sometimes they get flashbacks

sometimes near death

Dante when he's dying sees his dad

[crystal forum]

yeah what wolf said. you dont get to that point by getting into shootings

[arctic talon]

and goes to tell him how "he became an angel"

[opaque coyote]

To be overly romantic.

No matter how grinding the wheels of war are.

Some things can never be conquered

[arctic talon]

before the sanguinary priests start shoving his organs back in lol

[valid needle]

I believe there was a story about a marine who accidentally killed a woman and then remembered she was his birth mother.

[arctic talon]

Thats from Nightlords stuff

[outer wave]

Jeez

[arctic talon]

also it was on purpose

he killed his mother and father

but he didn't remember who they were until he looked at their mangeled corpses for a bit

[valid needle]

When he barges past her?

[arctic talon]

and had an inkling of a oh yeah thats my mom and dad

oh

dif incident lol

[valid needle]

💀

[dark moon]

Any of you read a good book lately? Warhammer focused or otherwise?

[opaque coyote]

I think it's primarily because it was too painful for him to actually be reminded that he was human.

So he shot them because well...

It's easier to become a monster when there's no connection left.

[spare osprey]

Still not gonna forget about that poor, foolish, young man.
I don't know WHAT he did, but he came in with kevlar, thumping his chest to fight the pain, and kept asking about his mama.
Arrested afterwards.
Poor bastard.

[valid needle]

Descent of Angels.

[dark moon]

Been reading Don Quixote and I’ve been enjoying it quite a bit.

[arctic talon]

I read this lmao

dry as fuck

[dark moon]

Lmao

[opaque coyote]

That looks like something I would fall asleep after an hour of reading

[storm jungle]

holy shit Caesar's Legion bull

[opaque coyote]

And then never read again

[dark moon]

I was reading Cicero’s “On living and dying well” last week, was also dry as the Sahara desert. Man takes forever to get to the point.

Epictetus was enjoyable though.

[outer wave]

I was reading a bit of Day of Ascension, but Ive stopped at around page 22

[arctic talon]

the bear and the bull the bear and the bull the bear and the bull the bear and the bull the bear and the bull the bear and the bull the bear and the bull the bear and the bull the bear and the bull the bear and the bull the bear and the bull the bear and the bull the bear and the bull

[opaque coyote]

...ik it's not the definition of well used

But it's ironic that it's dry because of it

[arctic talon]

O

[celest cedar]

I hate that character

[arctic talon]

I'm still deadass wondering if the caesers legion having a bull

was an intentional choice

[outer wave]

Personally I think the Bear is better; they got stronger muscles and alot of fat. Personally, S tier.

[arctic talon]

to joke about bear/bull markets

lol

[opaque coyote]

100%

[arctic talon]

he's not that bad

I don't like him

but I don't hate him

he's interesting

lol

[heady rivet]

Twinks when you ask them their type

[storm jungle]

NOOOOOOO

[opaque coyote]

I like him because he's a hypocrite

[arctic talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZAlt_KA_K8

[outer wave]

Well Ive heard of bears but never of bulls, so yeah they also win on that front

[heady rivet]

My friend thinks Lonesome Road is good

Heartbreaking

[opaque coyote]

Like if he ever appeared IRL

I would punch him

[celest cedar]

time to put em down

[opaque coyote]

I think Lonesome Road was the most fun in gameplay.

...

You can put me down now

[spare osprey]

Bull-bull-bull. Bull-bear.

[heady rivet]

You are utterly insane

[opaque coyote]

Still better than dead money

[arctic talon]

dead money is fun

lol

Dead money is deadass super fun

[heady rivet]

Bait used to be believable

[dark moon]

I actually liked Dead Money

[opaque coyote]

I also just generally like the apocalyptic aesthetic

[arctic talon]

the only issue is the radios are buggy

lol

[arctic talon]

but I think dead money is really fun

[heady rivet]

Everyone does, its fucking amazing

[arctic talon]

Nah some people hate dead money

lol

which is fine

they're entitled to their opinion

[opaque coyote]

Honestly not even saying it isn't

Although if I accidentally implied. I'm sorry.

It's just that sometimes shit like the radios get annoying

[dark moon]

Fair and valid

[heady rivet]

Playing a post-apocalypse game: "Damn I'm getting some apocalypse vibes from this..."

[vagrant fox]

they're wrong, kill them

[celest cedar]

dead money is aight

[spare osprey]

Loved Dead Money's atmosphere and story.
But did I like being stripped of my M1 Garand? Nuh uh.

[dark moon]

Old World Blues was alright.

[spare osprey]

Fuck Dean Domino, though.

[opaque coyote]

Real.

But tbh it's the most apocalyptic NV ever gets.

And I fucking love how God damn ruined it looks. Genuinely the MOST apocalyptic the series has ever looked.

[heady rivet]

Dead Money is about letting go but the 37 gold bars in my colon disagree

[dark moon]

Them’s fighting words.

[urban spire]

i still don't understand how the legion, with spears and leather armour, performs military conquest in a setting where guns are fairly normal

[celest cedar]

learn an important life lesson vs getting rich

[spare osprey]

I'll suffocate you, you whale.

[celest cedar]

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE

[opaque coyote]

Me laughing as I basically slow walk towards the exit

[dark moon]

I’m more of a stick bug, but go ahead pal.

[opaque coyote]

Let go...

Except for these gold bars. I'm fucking rich

[heady rivet]

Then hanging around with that Contreas guy for 4 in-game months to sell em all

[arctic talon]

because they use guns in lore 💀

ingame they don't use guns as much to make them distinct as an enemy type

[celest cedar]

hearing Elijah crashing out as I carry the gold bars is darkly hilarious

[urban spire]

lore is for nerds

[heady rivet]

They use actual Roman tactics which happens to be actual Boko Haram tactics now

[arctic talon]

Also some of them use guns

ingame

[opaque coyote]

Besides I think only the new recruits get the shitty stuff

[arctic talon]

yes

its mostly new recruits

[celest cedar]

boko haram 😭

[arctic talon]

who get thrown in the meat grinder

[spare osprey]

Then enjoy moobs, reprobate.

[arctic talon]

they literally use human wave tactics

[opaque coyote]

And even then it isn't completely shit cause the Legion mostly fought tribes

[dark moon]

There are worse ways to go.

[opaque coyote]

The NCR was their first true adversary

[arctic talon]

yeah the Legion mostly was fighting random tribals/raiders

[opaque coyote]

And they lost

[arctic talon]

yeah their first time round against the NCR's expeditionary forces they lost lol

[heady rivet]

Legion fights with a front of human wave recruits with melee and shitty guns, then primes with good melee and okay guns, then veterans with REALLY good guns and REALLY good melee

This kills the NCR conscript

[celest cedar]

did the new episode came out?

[arctic talon]

yeah ultimately

the poor NCR conscript with their service rifle

can only fire so many bullets

before they need to reload 💀

and the Legion literally doesn't care

how many people it sends into a meatgrinder

[heady rivet]

Caesar ingratiated himself eith the first tribe by teaching them how to maintain their guns, and actual military tactics

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's their main flaw

It's also why they lost Hoover Dam

The most ironic thing about the Legion is that

The Romans prided themselves first and foremost

On being advanced, on adapting to their enemy

The Legion is the opposite

[arctic talon]

the legion doesn't adapt, they just drown you in bodies

and when they run out of bodies they go beat on more "savages" to get more bodies

[urban spire]

i don't think rome used human wave tactics

[arctic talon]

yeah

I mean

they kind of did lol

Rome kind of would just

send entire generations of people to die 💀

[heady rivet]

Caesar wants to end reliance on old-world tech because he thinks its what made the old world that lead to all of this. He only uses it pragmatically, and selfishly. He's almost a primitivist

[arctic talon]

and then replenish

and do it again

in major wars against peers

[heady rivet]

But even the Unabomber had a gun, so eh

[arctic talon]

tbf Caeser and his praetorians

got the uh

[heady rivet]

Power fists, correct

[arctic talon]

Displacer Glove

[vagrant fox]

Damn another legion lost to Hannibal
Send out another few legions that'll do it

[heady rivet]

His primitivist shit is more "In an ideal world"

[celest cedar]

love that one time most of the legion got wiped out thx to a storm in the sea

[opaque coyote]

Like I said

Deeply ironic that Caesar chose a Roman theme.

It is very much intentional that he unintentionally goes against a lot of Roman Philosophy

No wonder he's dumber than a mole rat

[arctic talon]

the Romans absolutely used something that could be considered human wave tactics irl

[celest cedar]

and they managed to replenish their numbers anyways

[urban spire]

i mean, roman troops had state of the art equipment for the time

[arctic talon]

that isn't to say they didn't use strategy

they did

[spare osprey]

I go eat borgor now.
Y'all have a lovely day!

[urban spire]

the legion refusing to give their fodder even pistols is nuts

[arctic talon]

they do

tho

shitty 9mm pistols

[urban spire]

didn't see much of that in new vegas

[opaque coyote]

Literally btw

Snuffles has a higher INT than Caesar in S.P.E.C.I.A.L

Caesar has 4 INT

[celest cedar]

i mean tbf wasnt it cuz of the brain tumor

[urban spire]

huh, guess they did then

[heady rivet]

The hastati-princeps-triarii thing is straight up what Boko Haram does in Africa now.

Child soldiers get gunned down and waste ammo, your good child soldiers provide fire support, and then when the (usually ambushed) government forces counter attack they run into your adult soldiers. You can find video of Nigerian soldiers under fire where they just keep yelling "HOLD, DONT CHASE THEM. STAY" because they'd run right into a bunch of AKs

[daring creek]

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[arctic talon]

They usually don't use them bcs their melees are higher DPS

and the AI in FNV is just like that

It goes for whatever thing does the most hurt

[daring creek]

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2004394203368116224/vid/avc1/360x360/7nmrRwaCwrnUzU5j.mp4?tag=21 for those who want to download it

[arctic talon]

unless t here's an exception

[daring creek]

kitty kato

[heady rivet]

And while you, Courier, face tank a cowboy repeater the poor lore-accurate NCR conscript gets no-diffed by .357 in the chest

[urban spire]

i do think new vegas is kinda bad

[arctic talon]

New vegas has

so many fucking issues lol

but I still enjoy it

[nocturne crest]

I'm surprised they didn't give the legion bows or slings.

[arctic talon]

Look, sometimes the armor can catch it

[celest cedar]

this is me

[urban spire]

i just can't find joy in actually playing it

[heady rivet]

(Assuming they have any)

[arctic talon]

most of the NCR in FNV are

pretty poorly armed and armored lol

go my NCR conscripts with no body armor

[heady rivet]

This would have created a supernova in the engine that swallowed all life as we know it

[celest cedar]

the gameplay inherited from fallout 3 yea, its not enjoyable. And the fact you need to run a 4 gb patch just for the game to run more stable on modern PCs

[urban spire]

i played it when it came out, i didn't enjoy it much then either

[young pecan]

Let go... of poverty, watch this Elijah

[heady rivet]

My favorite Fallout 3 fun fact is the best way to play it on a modern PC is to play it in Nee Vegas

[celest cedar]

TTW...

[arctic talon]

I've never seen this NCR ranger concept art lmao

[heady rivet]

Which is peak btw

[urban spire]

it's peam

[vagrant fox]

Where's it from? It's banging

[urban spire]

art book prob

[celest cedar]

i fw C

[crisp heath]

tried a lot to find reasons why the red markings on the fist for Night Lords but they say its because its a sign of shame
thought that was only to Ultramarines? Or am I confusing it with another legion?

[arctic talon]

Art book

They uploaded it on the wiki

[celest cedar]

brother look like he's straight out of the ww1 british army

[arctic talon]

UM was red helmet

NL was red hands

[crisp heath]

Ohh

Got them twisted

[nocturne crest]

Fair enough

[heady rivet]

Lots of Chapters use color markings for a ton of reasons. Ultramarines use Red Helmets for liutenants for example

[crisp heath]

welp now I know not to include the red hands on my OC i thought it meant a mark of cool act

[urban spire]

hang on, why?

[rose thorn]

Them wearing pilot helmets is pretty sick

[crisp heath]

isn't lieutenant red helmet with white marking? red is sergeant, no...?

white line*

[celest cedar]

aaagghhh, upholding weird practices for the sake of traditions 😩

[heady rivet]

Throwing a frag at a barrel can crash the fuckin game I aint gonna go through the battle for Hoover Dam with arrows flying through the air

[arctic talon]

Red is sgt

Lt. Is blue helmet with white red stripe

[crisp heath]

yeh

[heady rivet]

Oopsie

[urban spire]

but it's the same engine that runs oblivion

[heady rivet]

Yes but by 40k logic this does work. And a 40k marine is 1:1 better than a 30k marine so eh

[heady rivet]

New Vegas is basically a total overhaul mod made in 13 months

[celest cedar]

aaah, anecdotal experiences

[crisp heath]

weird how in the heraldry pic for 30k NL their helmet wings are purple and then in other arts their helmets have red wings

confusion

[urban spire]

sure, if you pretend fo3 didn't already do most of the work

[hallow saddle]

Gamebryo moment

[crisp heath]

i fuck with this guys skin mask, holy aur

[celest cedar]

yea but Im never playing FO3 again 💀

[urban spire]

same

[celest cedar]

this goes to FNV too, but if I have to choose between the two. Its FNV

[nocturne crest]

I will admit, I'm interested in how Season 3 of the fallout TV show will go, seeing how they'll either go back west or continue eastwards to the commonwealth.

[urban spire]

fnv is more fo3 but it's normal piss instead of green piss

[celest cedar]

well theres a persistent subtle yellow piss filter on fnv

takes you back to mexico aint it

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if a winter themed fallout will have a white or blue filter on it?

[urban spire]

operation anchorage

[arctic talon]

It has a blue + green filter

Operation anchorage

[crisp heath]

Just saw Shaq doing a commercial for a brazilian brand of something and he spoke portuguese looking at the screen saying "I have my eyes on you" and it shocked me

[crisp heath]

Why is he there

[arctic talon]

Also the Chinese general commits seppaku at the end

lol

[urban spire]

i forgot how dogshit power armour looks in fo3

[nocturne crest]

Oh, that dlc which is based on a general's imaginations.

[celest cedar]

oh its been a longtime since I play that 💀

I forgot that actually happens lol

[arctic talon]

It’s like a generals insane imagination

Of the real event

There’s like some stuff that’s real

And the rest is just the generals deranged ramblings

[hollow lantern]

My unironic take is that (from memory) basically all of Fo3s dlcs are bad except The Pitt

[nocturne crest]

Like that tank with screws for wheels.

[urban spire]

he just wanted to make a movie

[hollow lantern]

Broken Steel too ig

[urban spire]

in vr

[arctic talon]

Broken steel and Pitt are good imo

The rest are bleh

[hollow lantern]

Zeta is cool exactly the first time

[hallow saddle]

broken steel unfucked the ending big time

so its automatically good

[arctic talon]

Anchorage is fun bcs it expands on the outcasts

[nocturne crest]

What about fallout new vegas's dlc.

[hollow lantern]

The writing is still dogshit

[hallow saddle]

yeah it is, haha

[hollow lantern]

I like all of them except Dead Money

Which is also only cool the first time

[celest cedar]

love that the game guilt trips you for.....sending the immune companion to the radiation hotbox

[heady rivet]

Shoutout to Anchorage where the propaganda simulation shows them executing Chinese POWs

[celest cedar]

oh you need to be a hero and do it yourself

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE BETHESDA

[arctic talon]

Could have been fixed by having your companions get cut off

[opaque coyote]

If there is one thing I appreciate

It's how consistently dog shit the Chinese is

[arctic talon]

lol

But no

[arctic talon]

It’s so fucking funny

[nocturne crest]

Fair enough. Honestly, I think the one I didn't like the most was lonesome Road

[heady rivet]

Dw you can pay them extra for a good ending

[arctic talon]

I forgot can you change the FO4 protagonists skin color lol

[celest cedar]

yea

[arctic talon]

and if so does fathers skin color change

[hallow saddle]

yep

[arctic talon]

Neat

[opaque coyote]

They even continued it in the TV show

The propaganda has dogshit Chinese but they actually hired proper Chinese actors outside of those

[heady rivet]

Which does nothing but make Shaun look like he's in brownface

[arctic talon]

I mean it makes sense lol

[arctic talon]

Yeah that sounds about right

[opaque coyote]

Yup. And it's nice

[hollow lantern]

I like a lot of LRs gear, really fun weapons in it

[young pecan]

I felt that way but just about Honest Hearts

[hollow lantern]

Idk, the best NV dlc is OWB by a large margin

[hollow lantern]

HH is entirely carried by funny bandage man

[young pecan]

Yeppers

[rose thorn]

This is what all warhammer fan comics look like to me

[hollow lantern]

And the fact that it gives me survivalist's rifle

[dapper gyro]

Most people remembered Fallout 3 as a reskin of Fallout 4...

[urban spire]

siding with the institute in fo4 because finally after 200 years there's a faction that uses soap

[vagrant fox]

Point Lookout had good atmosphere, the concentration camp is still taking up space in my brain

[young pecan]

Joshua, put a cap in general Gobbledigook here

[nocturne crest]

Also, odd question, but seeing how old t'au lore had humans paint themselves blue to match, would they have also tried taking silver to turn their skin colour?

[urban spire]

what the fuck does that sentence mean

oh wait no i get it

you mean most people upscale it in their memory

[dapper gyro]

They thought that Fallout 3 looks like Fallout 4.

[arctic talon]

lol

[nocturne crest]

I don't think I have actually picked that option before.

[outer wave]

Thank you Cammy from Street Fighter 🙏

[urban spire]

yeah no, not me, the dogshit animations are burned into my memory, i just wasn't thinking about PA

[nocturne crest]

Has anyone played Fallout London?

[arctic talon]

PA looks like shit in the Bethesda fallout games pre 4

[vagrant fox]

Genuinely did not like it myself

[arctic talon]

It looks great in 4

[urban spire]

4 nailed PA

[hollow lantern]

PA is like

The singular thing 4 has going for it and I still dont wear it

[vagrant fox]

Shooting feels better too imo

[urban spire]

idk 4 is better than 3 in pretty much every way

[dapper gyro]

Power armor in Fallout 4 is kind of weak.

[hollow lantern]

Guns feel exceptionally samey

And weapon variety is bad

[urban spire]

still better than fo3

[nocturne crest]

If you don't mind me asking, but why?

[hollow lantern]

That's not exactly saying a lot

[rose thorn]

The fallout 4 fan has joined the chat

[nocturne crest]

It had to be. People would have been just staying in power armour all the time

[young pecan]

Do you take Sneering Imperialist?

[hollow lantern]

Power armor vs the railroads dumbass ballistic weave mod

[rose thorn]

Yeah the PA was nerfed really bad because they wanted to allow players to have access to it from the start

[arctic talon]

I mean that’s fine

Imo

[young pecan]

If not, that's the only way you can get that

[nocturne crest]

I think so?

[rose thorn]

I have to read the design documents again

[rose thorn]

The racism perk

[arctic talon]

No the mini gun and power armor are nerfed down bcs you get them early

You’re correct

It’s just sad they’re so weak lol

[rose thorn]

Yeah

I believe it was an early decision too

[arctic talon]

They’re really should be an upgrade to make the mini gun not shit

T-45D is the only T-45 worth using in 4

[hollow lantern]

Its called playing the game long enough to get an explosive one to drop

[rose thorn]

IMO I would ahve replaced the minigun with the assault rifle

In that part

[arctic talon]

They should have stuck to their guns

And done the PA only weapons idea

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah

[arctic talon]

Along with normal weapons

lol

[rose thorn]

It’s one of the hundreds of half implemented ideas lmao

[urban spire]

a lot of people hate the AR in fo4, i like that it looks designed for PA use

[rose thorn]

Like you can’t use unarmed weapons in power armor

Power*

[nocturne crest]

The assault rifle looked so bad.

[vagrant fox]

I can't quite put my finger on it. They did a great job but I couldn't make myself care about it, nothing grabbed my attention. The enviroments looked very good but they felt clunky and bothersome to navigate a lot of the time. I think it's a lot of small things adding up

Great job with the VAs though

[arctic talon]

The AR looks awful unless you’re in power armor

Tbh

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Then it looks better

[urban spire]

which is the point

[rose thorn]

I don’t hate the AR

[urban spire]

those rifles were made for PA goons

[hollow lantern]

I wish 4 had a pump shotgun

[rose thorn]

I believe strength requirements were highly considered but scrapped early or mid way

[arctic talon]

It shouldn’t be the only AR and they should have done their original idea

Tbh

[vagrant fox]

I do wish they'd gone with a different design and kept it has a PA heavy gun but w/e

It looks fine when you're stomping around in PA

[nocturne crest]

There was the combat rifle.

[urban spire]

the magazine is too narrow though, no way there's 5.56 in there

[nocturne crest]

Honestly, should have just named the combat rifle to assault rifle, and had the PA ar be heavy assault rifle.

[arctic talon]

Tbf if we talk about unrealistic guns in fallout we will be here till we die

[dapper gyro]

5.56 is quite small.

[arctic talon]

lol

[nocturne crest]

Also, I hope they never bring back pipe guns again.

[hollow lantern]

Fo4 did get me to actually use the laser rifle

Cause every other gun looks like ass

[arctic talon]

Good concept horrid execution

lol

[nocturne crest]

Yeah.

[arctic talon]

For pipe weapons

[vagrant fox]

I did see a pretty interesting alternative for the AR that made it look like a BAR on steroids. It was quite cool

[arctic talon]

Just because it’s the apocalypse doesn’t mean shit has to be ugly

[urban spire]

i mean

it's right there

[arctic talon]

I love pipe guns conceptually

[rose thorn]

They 100% extended it there

This is a meme

It’s gotta

[nocturne crest]

Also, ngl, but I feel like the brotherhood are going to become the enclaves replacement.

[sacred ginkgo]

No its just that long

[celest cedar]

max grew on me as a character in season 2

[arctic talon]

Nah

Not racist enough

lol

[celest cedar]

he was eh he's there too ig back in season 1

[sacred ginkgo]

The BOS ones in the show are extended

[nocturne crest]

This is just based off vibes in the tv series.

[arctic talon]

The enclave are the enclave

Also yeah the shows AR is longer

Then the ingame ones

Which makes them look cooler

[nocturne crest]

They have one bos chapter that ban women from speeching.

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[celest cedar]

yea 💀

[sacred ginkgo]

They probably have them extended so they look a bit less silly and because knights can carry that water jacket

[arctic talon]

The enclave aren’t sexist, also I think it’s fine shows how far they’ve defeated on the west coast

[nocturne crest]

Honestly, you can't rule out there being a racist BOS chapter.

[celest cedar]

was it the Coronado chapter

[urban spire]

the BOS was always kinda fashy

[hollow lantern]

Every faction with power armor is a bunch of dorks

[nocturne crest]

Hell, they split up in 3 because one side thought they weren't doing their goals.

[urban spire]

not a lot of good guys in fallout, generally

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/brotherhood-outcasts-gif-14919734484387010788

[hollow lantern]

Followers best faction

[urban spire]

followers is such a non-faction

[celest cedar]

the black and red is certainly on the nose

[urban spire]

railroad ass organization

[nocturne crest]

They could have taken inspiration from real life pipe guns, like the sten or the guerrilla shotgun.

[hollow lantern]

At least they actually make sense

[arctic talon]

Railroad and minutemen still should have been one organization imo

[hollow lantern]

Tbh

It would make them both better

[nocturne crest]

Yep.

[urban spire]

problem is minutemen is the fallback for if you want to be omnicidal

[hollow lantern]

Cause the rr has interesting npcs but a dog msq and actual reason for existing and MM have a good msq with good reasons for existing and horrible npcs

[nocturne crest]

BTW, off topic question, but would GW come down hard if someone attempted to mod 40k into Halo MCC?

[vagrant fox]

Perhaps as an optional path, letting you at least lead a little as general instead of getting told what to do

[urban spire]

fo4 got the same shit for having essential npcs, but truthfully it barely has any at all, you're free to murder basically everyone EXCEPT preston garvey, who's there to make sure you can actually finish the game if you do decide to be omnicidal

[arctic talon]

As long as they’re not making money off it

I really do think that it’s stupid that the railroad and minutemen are their own organization

[nocturne crest]

I'm just wondering, because someone made a working battlefront mod for Halo MCC

[urban spire]

however, preston's the first guy most people run into, so when testing for essential npcs, they kill garvey, see him take the essential npc kneel, and conclude it's the same shit as always

[arctic talon]

And the railroad are focused entirely on synths

But whatever

[nocturne crest]

Yeah, they is even a divide in a railroad about that as well.

[arctic talon]

Slavery isn’t a huge thing in FO4

They should have made the railroad more benevolent in general and made them part of the minutemen

[rose thorn]

t elast the BoS aren’t sexist

[hollow lantern]

One dumbass fo3 quest expanded into a god awful faction idk

[arctic talon]

Well some of them are 💀

The institute could have been good

But they’re wasted

[nocturne crest]

Should the first and second gen of synth be rescued as well, instead of the normal human looking 3rd

[rose thorn]

Oh are we talking about my second favorite faction in fallout 4?

[hollow lantern]

Synthetic fuckin gorillas

[rose thorn]

And my favorite fallout faction

The institute

[arctic talon]

They suffer from the same issue as the legion

Where they don’t get enough development at all

lol

[rose thorn]

I LOVEEEE THE INSTITUTE!!

[urban spire]

institute is clownish, however they do happen to be the only organization in the entire wasteland that cleans anything

[nocturne crest]

Also, why the hell do the railroad blow up the institute?

[hollow lantern]

Illusion of choice

[rose thorn]

To stop synth production

[nocturne crest]

Damn you Bethesda!

[arctic talon]

To stop synth production is the given reason

[nocturne crest]

Just turn off the machine.

[urban spire]

and after however many hours of fallout games where everything is covered in dust and filth, a clean bedroom is too good to pass up

[rose thorn]

…. ?

[urban spire]

have to side with the institute

[nocturne crest]

The machine that makes the synths.

[urban spire]

i can change them from within or whatever

[arctic talon]

I hate how dirty everything in the wasteland is in every fallout game aside from 2 lol

Like cmon

It’s a apocalypse yeah

But people still clean trash

[rose thorn]

“Why don’t the NCR just stop letting the legion get slaves”

[arctic talon]

And wash their bed

lol

[nocturne crest]

It's been 200 years.

[vagrant fox]

I get why people might not want to live in some moldy asbestos ruins but at least sweep a little

[hollow lantern]

Bethesda refuses to let there be a developed society ime

[arctic talon]

Ignoring the fact FO2 is kind of a shit game

lol

[urban spire]

fallout 2 was like "yeah so of course society recovered by now and has started rebuilding" and then fallout 3 comes along and slams the setting back into mad max mode

[arctic talon]

Tbf black isles were also gona hit the fucking reset button in van buren

So not a Bethesda only thing

[nocturne crest]

Wasteland all the time. Basically 1950's mad max with no cars.

[arctic talon]

But yeah I hope

That the next fallout game

Is cleaner

Like, in developed city interiors

lol

[nocturne crest]

Nah

[urban spire]

HEY OK LISTEN UP

VAN BUREN LOOKED LIKE SHIT

[hollow lantern]

I hope the next fo game isn't dogshit but ik better than that by now.

[nocturne crest]

You're getting 76 content instead.

[arctic talon]

Van buren was prolly gona be shit

I agree

[urban spire]

YEAH IT'S UNFINISHED BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT WAS GONNA BE GOOD

[nocturne crest]

They'll never release another single player fallout.

[arctic talon]

I don’t think 4 was that bad

Tbh

I don’t think it was that good either

But that applies to every fallout game but 1

To me

I’m ngl

[hollow lantern]

The genuine only thing I truly like in 4 is far harbor

[arctic talon]

I think FO1 is the only FO game I think is like

[nocturne crest]

Hasn't it been nearly 10 years since they announced the next elder scrolls?

[vagrant fox]

Some cool concepts came out of Van Buren and that's good enough for me

[arctic talon]

Really good

Writing wise

[arctic talon]

Far harbor is literally the best story in that game

And they make me play fucking MINECRAFT DURING IT

AAAAAAAAGH FUCK

god

[hollow lantern]

Yeah lmfao

[arctic talon]

Far harbor is good

I wish the writing in far harbor was in the basegame

[hollow lantern]

The base game should've been FH story tbh

[urban spire]

imo fallout 2 kinda fucks the dog on a lot of the writing tryna be edgy

[hollow lantern]

There's actual weight there

[arctic talon]

Far harbor shows Bethesda can do a really deep and good and compelling story

[nocturne crest]

I think it was the first dlc that took you out of Boston.

The other two were still set in Boston.

[arctic talon]

FO2 is just pop culture reference + edge lord humor with a decent story

[nocturne crest]

And nuts world.

[arctic talon]

But the pop culture reference + edgelord humor drag it down badly lol

[sacred ginkgo]

Thats what I like about shady sands in the show

[hollow lantern]

I like postal so maybe that's why fo2 being edgy doesn't bother me

[hallow saddle]

i thought Dima in far harbor was goofy as hell

[urban spire]

also playing a female character in fo2 is a painful window into what a gen x nerd thought being a moderately attractive woman is like

[arctic talon]

Anyways the Chosen One gets to become a 16 year old adult film star if you want 💀

[hallow saddle]

but it was a good dlc

[sacred ginkgo]

For all 5 seconds you get to see it it's just a normal city

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if a BOS made up of robobrains could work.

[arctic talon]

Tbf it also looked normal in fallout 2

Regarding shady sands

[nocturne crest]

Like that vault in far harbour.

[arctic talon]

The boneyard looking like shit is part of it’s aesthetic I’m ngl

[rose thorn]

“I wish fallout 4 was more like 2! It was so dark and griddy”

“Did you even play fallout 2?”

“No did you?”

“No”

[arctic talon]

Fallout 2 is not dark and gritty lmao

I do love the enclave though

They’re hilarious

Good villains

[hollow lantern]

Fo2 is pretty fuckin zany ime

[arctic talon]

FO2 is extremely zany and goofy

[rose thorn]

CHUDS use fallout 1 and 2 as their puppets

[arctic talon]

And edgy

[young pecan]

Enter NCR barracks
Every single bunk bed is horrifically rusted, including the springs inside the mattress which are poking through

[arctic talon]

I actually like fallout 1

Tbh

Story wise

[rose thorn]

CHUDS

OMFG

[rose thorn]

CHURS

CHUDS

[urban spire]

far harbour had such a fucking genius idea putting robobrains in clothes

[rose thorn]

AUTO CORRECTTTT

[vagrant fox]

FO1 is a bit clunky gameplaywise

[hollow lantern]

I will say fo4 feels like it has no edge whatsoever until the raider dlc and that feels like bad edge

[urban spire]

fucking enlightened

[rose thorn]

I hate auto correct

[arctic talon]

FO4 isn’t edgy at all aside from nukaworld

And nukaworld is

Really edgy

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

In a lame way lol

[hollow lantern]

NW feels so out of place

[rose thorn]

It’s great trash if you wanna just be an ass

[arctic talon]

NV and FO3 regarding the edge in those games was fine

[rose thorn]

I am so mad that nuka world didn’t come with a main game ending

[arctic talon]

It was cringy at times

but its like

Eh

[urban spire]

take any faction in fallout, replace all the people with extremely dramatic robobrains wearing the faction's clothes who act like they don't know they're robobrains? people are gonna be talking about it for years

[vagrant fox]

Only reason to side with the raiders is to get the infinite ammo gatling laser otherwise just kill them and have nothing to do

[arctic talon]

You forgot the drug lab

[young pecan]

The worst writing FO4 had was making you meet Dogmeat at Red Rocket

[arctic talon]

lol

FUCKING KILLLLLLL

[hollow lantern]

3 and NV have a level of edge that feels understandable to the world they're placed in, 4 feels like, sterilized

[rose thorn]

Oh hey I remember this from far harbor

[arctic talon]

NATE THE RAKE MY GOAT

[hollow lantern]

Love me psychojet

[arctic talon]

Okay jokes aside infinite drugs is the best reason to side with raiders

[rose thorn]

I really wish dog meat wasn’t in the game

[arctic talon]

Nora took it recreationally
Nate takes it to remind him of the good ol days in Canada

[vagrant fox]

I barely ever use the drugs so

[rose thorn]

It’s stupid Reddit “can you pet the dog” pandering

[hollow lantern]

Nah like

[vagrant fox]

I should perhaps do a full nate the rake playthrough

[arctic talon]

Dogmeat is in the game because dogmeat is in every numbered fallout game lol