40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

and then his mini is just

yeah this is a fucking marine lol

[heady rivet]

Wanted poser vs reality, is my copium

[storm jungle]

Good.

[opaque coyote]

Too bad that also includes Europe and Asia getting fucked like during that entire thing

[opaque coyote]

And yet I can't get Mantis Blades

Gorilla Arms are cooler tbf

[arctic talon]

well

you could get something resembling mantis blades

you just need to saw off your arms

they'll also be way less effective

lol

[opaque coyote]

Either that or just like

Tape a knife to my wrists

[arctic talon]

but having springloaded knives in a prosthetic arm

is possible rn

[arctic talon]

chip in you fucking coward

saw off your meat

[opaque coyote]

You make a fair point

Also I still question why the fuck the Projectile Launch system is a separate arm cybernetic

[arctic talon]

gameplay reasons

💀

[opaque coyote]

It's honestly something that should've been something you could've combined with mono wire/mantis/gorilla

Smh

[arctic talon]

its meant to be equivelent to those in power

except its way worse

lol

[opaque coyote]

PFFFTT

[arctic talon]

On the tabletop its sure as shit equivelent in power

[opaque coyote]

Worst part is that Maine makes it look like the coolest shit ever

[arctic talon]

but thats because grenades are fucking horrifying in cyberpunk

not as horrifying as they are in shadow run

but grenades are grenades

[opaque coyote]

Even though it literally only works 67% of the time (unintentional meme but that's genuinely the statistics)

It worked against the tiger claw

Failed against the cyberpsycho

Worked when he turned cyberpsycho and exploded the sacrifical pyre he made

[winged jacinth]

The projectile launch system just being worse than regular grenades is really funny

[opaque coyote]

Missile Launcher vs throwing grenades

[winged jacinth]

Also getting gorilla arms installed just to cheat at fight clubs

[opaque coyote]

Throwing grenades win

[arctic talon]

It’s not cheating tbf

It’s part of the sport

[winged jacinth]

I don't think anyone else is using them? The animal might use berserk

[arctic talon]

They are

[opaque coyote]

Only time I felt bad when it was against the guy who decided to bet his car and several eddies.

Felt bad so I just took the car

[arctic talon]

Final dude is using them

Also

[opaque coyote]

Worst part about 2077 is that less enemies are super chromed up

[arctic talon]

They used to be able to use cyberware

During the boxing

[opaque coyote]

Not even like Borg

[arctic talon]

Cdpr nerfed them

[winged jacinth]

Yeah i always take the car lol

[arctic talon]

They don’t use shit anymore lol

[winged jacinth]

Lmao rip

[arctic talon]

The Valentino had kerenzikov

[heady rivet]

The superior Cyberpunk RPG is Shadowrun. A system so German that you often needed a second DM just to make ends meet

[arctic talon]

Never has anyone claimed an edition of Shadowrun is good

[last stone]

Second dm to take over?

[winged jacinth]

I think as long as you have gorilla arms you can do it with no other augs and 3 body lol

[opaque coyote]

I feel like maybe they did that to feel like the Cyberpsychos are more special?

[arctic talon]

For the math lmao

Shadowrun is a spreadsheet game

[winged jacinth]

The crpg of shadowrun is good!

Because a computer does the math!

[arctic talon]

It’s because they wanted the player to feel powerful

lol

[heady rivet]

AND to manage the Deckers hacking shit

[last stone]

"So how did you learn Excel so well"

[arctic talon]

Cyberpunk 2077 gameplay wise is very much a power fantasy game

LOL

[winged jacinth]

Yeah lmao the decker requiring an entire interlinked misson of their own set up lol

[arctic talon]

Tbf

That’s just netrunning as well lol

Net architecture moment

💀

Gotta make a whole ass second encounter

Bcs your party has a netrunner lol

[winged jacinth]

Im convinced sit down hacker is a design antipattern

Limit it to like killing cameras with an IR blaster or whatever make them live in the real world for the games sake

Prep and play flow its just a disaster

[arctic talon]

Nah

It’s fine in RED

Flows fine

As long as your netrunner isn’t a dumbass

[heady rivet]

Real SINless stack 4 Street Samurai

[arctic talon]

In 2013 it’s a fucking mess

[opaque coyote]

But tbh I feel like they could've done that and give enemies more cybernetics.

Then again, Cyberpunk 2077 was in development hell so they probably didn't have enough time.

[arctic talon]

In 2020 it’s less of a mess but still bad

[winged jacinth]

I've only played a mini campaign of red but decking kinda sucked but maybe if you get going and have more programs and shit

I blew up a couple peoples brains

[arctic talon]

You need to get some more cyberware

It’s very slow early game

Mid game is when netrunning becomes less of a slog in terms of time to do stuff

[winged jacinth]

I ended up unjacking to go shoot people for efficiency

[opaque coyote]

No wonder the MFS sit in chairs smh

"God dammit I wanted fantasy hacking not IRL hacking!"

[winged jacinth]

Then we killed robot santa who was working for the grinch and elon musk, it was a christmas campaign

[arctic talon]

Goes hard

But honestly you don’t need to finish the net architecture as well

Is the funny thing

Sometimes you just need to get deep enough for some simple stuff

Like taking over cameras

Or turning off a lock

lol

[winged jacinth]

I actually netrunned the kill by changing the words of the poem that was making robot santa grinchlike

[opaque coyote]

I think RED mentions a S.A.N.T.A netrunner whose gifts are

Company Schematics for weapons.

With company netrunners trying to go after him but they constantly fail

[arctic talon]

Fun

[opaque coyote]

So every Christmas, Santa makes sure to remind the Corpos that they don't truly own everything

And gives it to the wonderful girls and boys...

to blow up people's heads!

[winged jacinth]

Grinchin.txt

[arctic talon]

But netrunning in cyberpunk red is balancing time in meatspace vs time in the net

Sometimes being in meatspace is just more efficient lol

[arctic talon]

If you didn’t want your head blown up you wouldn’t have connected to the net silly

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but it's due to the weapon schematics and shit he constantly leaks from corpos

Santa gives out very good gifts

[winged jacinth]

breaking into the most secure net facility safely because their legion of black ICE doesn't know how to interface with a ps/2 port keyboard

[opaque coyote]

Literally just IRL tbh

hacking into a water plant since their security system hasn't been updated for years

[winged jacinth]

"We keep trying to kill it but all it says is PATENT IBM 1992"

[opaque coyote]

I mean that might actually be the case since in Phantom Liberty. The government uses a rotary phone to contact V.

I could imagine similar things

Also love the little detail of Johnny motioning how to use a Rotary phone

[winged jacinth]

I think that's mainly because the phone line was airgapped from the net

[opaque coyote]

Yeah and Rotary Phones would be so archaic that netrunners would be like

"what the fuck??"

[arctic talon]

Tbf

Can still tap phone lines lol

[winged jacinth]

Ironically its just an analog signal

[arctic talon]

Yeah

The phone stuff would be a techies ballpark

Not a netrunner

[winged jacinth]

You just save the signal on the wire as a WAV and play it basically lol

Modern phones systems do all kinds of fucked up multiplexing and compression but rotaries? None of that

[opaque coyote]

Considering it's 100+ years tech, they might literally just never consider that

"The government must use the super advanced signal"

Type of shit

[winged jacinth]

Yeah idk its like, visually recognizable, but also maybe the government hid end to end encryption in the rotary phone lol

Its possible

No one would expect that

[arctic talon]

Rotary phones also are like

A thing that’s around in cyberpunk

They fall out of use by 2077

Obviously, but they’re around in RED

And 2020 and 2013

lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but it would be similar to like

Still using an IBM 1980's PC currently

[winged jacinth]

The funny thing about keeping rotary phones is that they've obviously invented the keypad and rotary phones suck really bad

[arctic talon]

Look

It fits the vibes

[opaque coyote]

Clearly another layer of security ||/j||

[arctic talon]

Also the phone in 2077 isn’t rotary

Iirc

[winged jacinth]

Im kinda upset that in 2077 you don't actually wear your cyberdeck

[arctic talon]

It’s a keypad phone

https://primagames.com/wp-content/uploads/pcinvasion/2023/10/Screenshot-1364-e1697561402773.png

[opaque coyote]

Should've said line phone tbh

[winged jacinth]

Oh yeah its a payphone isnt it

[opaque coyote]

Yeah in some random fucking alleyway also

[arctic talon]

Well

It’s in the back of a store

lol

[winged jacinth]

Its probably got secret encryption buried inside by an agent 30 years ago

[opaque coyote]

Exactly who TF uses those

[winged jacinth]

I get that i guess they build the cyberdecks in now but i much preferred having it on a wrist or as a tablet

[arctic talon]

They’re both

Btw

V just doesn’t have an arm mounted or external one

[winged jacinth]

I use mods that steal alts model for equipment-ex lol

[arctic talon]

T-bug and other NPC netrunners

Have external decks

V is mostly a solo using premade daemons and other packages

[opaque coyote]

That's probably because V is just a hobbyist canonically

[winged jacinth]

True

And in gameplay

[opaque coyote]

Not an actual true netrunner

[winged jacinth]

V just gets really fucking nasty premades

[opaque coyote]

A script kiddie

...

Except that script fucking sends you to AI hell

[arctic talon]

V is good at the basics

But they don’t do deep dives and shit

Which is fine

[winged jacinth]

I guess if you're a srs netrunner you need an external deck to fit more hardware

[arctic talon]

Bcs that shit expensive

If you’re a serious netrunner you have more then 1 deck

[winged jacinth]

And in your skull or not you still need a neural hookup capable of killing you

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

I kinda hope that a future game has us go deeper into netrunning

Deep dives acting as optional dungeons

[winged jacinth]

Most of the serious netrunners in 2077 do their full dives with the support of entire servers tbh

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Also it’s really power hungry in lore

lol

[winged jacinth]

Arms race

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, I'm thinking that serious netrunning should be an optional thing.

Sit in an ice bath/netrunner chair and go deep in the net. Exclusively use quick hacks to defeat foes

[winged jacinth]

I think they mention tracking a netrunner by power draw at least once

[opaque coyote]

...

Actually

I don't know how it'd work and it would be a balancing nightmare

But

Making your own quickhacks

[winged jacinth]

Oblivion spellmaking

[arctic talon]

A game built entirely around netrunning

[opaque coyote]

Basically what I'm thinking

[arctic talon]

Would prolly resemble Duskers lol

Where it’s just a very abstract terminal game

[opaque coyote]

Either that or something like Noita

[arctic talon]

With a lot of typing and thinking

[opaque coyote]

"Time to test out this new quickhack!"

Avatar explodes spontaneously

[winged jacinth]

A pure netrunner game (you could put splinter cell in between hacking sections if you wanted) would be super fun

[arctic talon]

Yeah

It would have to be built for it

Is the awkward part

[winged jacinth]

Yeah for sure

[opaque coyote]

Could also just look like Tron

If they're lazy ig

[winged jacinth]

Been done 1000 times

Saints row did it twice i think

[opaque coyote]

True. I would like a PS styled type of thing tbh

Ignore the amount of indie games that use that style-

[winged jacinth]

They should make you play exapunks

"YOU WANTED HACKING"

[opaque coyote]

Either way two things I wish for a sequel is to go somewhat deeper into Netrunning

And also Cyberpsychosis as a mechanic

[winged jacinth]

"WRITE ASM BITCH!"

[opaque coyote]

Even if visually

Or just storywise

[sacred ginkgo]

Evil

[opaque coyote]

Like a partner that slowly falls into cybetpsychosis

Cyberpsychosis in general is interesting

[winged jacinth]

Why are you, as a hacker, not doing this as gameplay https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241344278616342539/1192953719168442468/SPOILER_image.png?ex=6964c8fa&is=6963777a&hm=b0e067903e9e42cfb3e195c064d409e55f994da4c83aaae04e9c6b9764a9d505&

[opaque coyote]

Especially since there's a bit of an occult theme to it

[winged jacinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241344278616342539/1192953718728048812/SPOILER_EXAPUNKS_-_TEC_EXA-BlasterTM_Modem_193_47_19_2024-01-05-14-11-30.gif?ex=6964c8fa&is=6963777a&hm=bcf58744ec73e5a799851d21ed649665ee2e67a7fe37229a1136f7697b9fe43a&

I like exapunks

They're little computer viruses 🙂

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I like to think that something like this is what Netrunners actually see

While quickhacking is obviously meant for

Well

Quick hacking

Then again Edge runners shows Lucy basically doing the netrunner mini game to hack into shit

But extremely quickly

[winged jacinth]

This is what hacking looks like in the exapunks universe

Im writing data through a hijacked autodialer in that level iirc

[opaque coyote]

But I like to think the netrunner mini game is specifically for quickhacking

Like it's simplified intentionally so that it can be done quickly

[autumn marten]

Enjoy this modicum of Crimson Fist lore

[winged jacinth]

Its actually weirdly similar to a kind of hacking called return oriented programming (but very simplified and with gamified constraints)

[young pecan]

LMFAO

that might be my favorite wh meme to date

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, I thought it's similar to how languages like Python is high level and abstracts away complex hardware details.

While assembly is low level and directly communicates to hardware

[spare osprey]

Literally my favorite bit out of 40k.

[opaque coyote]

I imagine something similar but for Netrunner

The mini game abstracts away a lot of details for quick hacking

[rose thorn]

Bets on Monday reveal?

[celest dome]

God I do not want to learn Cyberpunk or 40k's evolution of Modbus communication

[winged jacinth]

The admech use modbus but in old english

[quasi temple]

With modern AI you may not need to

[opaque coyote]

No wonder they can't figure out their archaeotech

Good lord

[winged jacinth]

Admech networks using token ring but the token is a physical relic moved by a servitor

[opaque coyote]

"Modbus is an open, serial protocol derived from the Master/Slave architecture."

The Mechanicus took it literally

[winged jacinth]

Its all scripture

Ancient mechanicus crypt enshrining 10,000 IBM model M keyboards (they all still work 38000 years later)

[celest dome]

Using AI for coding

[winter pine]

Holy relic in the vault of a Forge World and it's an ancient IBM mainframe that somehow still keeps going no problem

[quasi temple]

Hardware made by Nokia

[quasi temple]

It makes debugging faster

[winter pine]

Forge World of Vulcanus III, powered by an IBM System/390 from 1992 that somehow still works

[quasi temple]

Avatar of the Omnissiah

Actually, honest heretical question.
Could the Omnissiah decide to end the God Emperor?

[winter pine]

I thought the Emperor LARPed and played himself up as the Omnissaih

Isn't it vaguely like Jesus being the son and mortal representive of God on Earth? I forget

[quasi temple]

He is kept alive by cybernetics and psykers

[winter pine]

UR-025 did say he met the "real Omnissiah, not the false one" though so maybe

[young pecan]

AFAIK there's no solid reason to believe Cult Mechanicus' religion has basis in reality in the first place

And there's not much powerscaling done with the Machine God other than him imbueing knowledge and perfection (also AFAIK)

[arctic talon]

Ur-025 independently speaks of the omnissiah

lol

[winged jacinth]

theres a whole variety of theories about where the cult mechanicus comes from but theres never been any indication the omnissiah exists as like, a warp entity with control over machines afaik

[arctic talon]

Yeah

But there is something pre emperor that was referred to as the omnissiah by at least one man of iron

[quasi temple]

So if the Omnissiah is real, they could potentially decide to disrupt humanity. But its not likely since Humanity is the basis of much of its power?

[arctic talon]

Ultimately GW won’t give a straight answer

Bcs it’s more fun this way

[winged jacinth]

it might be a chained up c'tan lol

[young pecan]

The Omnissiah is just the physical avatar of the Machine God

[quasi temple]

Its the first Nokia phone that just won't die

[young pecan]

For religious coexistence, AdMech relent and call Emps the Omnissiah

[quasi temple]

Oh. I thought the two terms were synonymous.

[arctic talon]

Nah

[young pecan]

Neither side is exactly happy about it though

[arctic talon]

The mechanicus have a holy Trinity

[winged jacinth]

i really like the frankly dumb lore theory that the emperor was st george and the dragon was the void dragon, and then after winning he locked the void dragon on mars (somehow?) and it became the omnissiah

[young pecan]

I'm sure it depends on where though

[arctic talon]

Like Catholicism

[spare osprey]

So the Emperor is... the Omnissiah...?
Like the equivalent to a Jesus figure to the Mechanicus?

[arctic talon]

Machine god
Omnissiah
Motive force

Yeah

The emperor is their Jesus figure

Though the omnissiah is more tied to the machine god

Then Jesus is tied to god

If that makes sense

[young pecan]

I'm sure by now there is a force created by the collective warping of millions or so AdMech that would call itself the Omnissiah or Machine God

[arctic talon]

Also

The dark mechanicum of mars

Worship the dark king as the “true omnissiah”

Specifically the heresy era traitors

[young pecan]

IIRC machine spirits vaguely exist sometimes due to collective belief

[spare osprey]

Okay, okay.
And the is the Motive Force... electricity?

[young pecan]

Or are at least theorized to

[arctic talon]

Yeah basically electricity/entropy

[arctic talon]

There’s a lot of dif things that classify as machine spirits.

Soul imprints, ai fragments, dumb AI, some basic autonomous systems

Ect.

Actual AI

lol

[young pecan]

True, but I mean things that shouldn't have consciousness

Like a plasma gun

[arctic talon]

It ultimately is left open Bcs it gives authors freedom

Yeah well that’s a soul imprint

Usually

[young pecan]

I've never heard of a soul imprint before

whassat

[winged jacinth]

yeah sometimes theres literal ghosts in the machine

that and emergent behavior from the admech not actually understanding the systems are the two main spooky machine spirits

as mentioned they'll also call a regular intentionally added control system the machine spirit too lol

[arctic talon]

Prolonged usage of an item in 40k by multiple people or even death while wielding it will lead to an imprint of the soul on an item.

This occurs with every faction in 40k

[young pecan]

Oh damn that's cool

I'm assuming it's not widely known except by maybe trained psykers

[winged jacinth]

the eldar often skip the middleman

[arctic talon]

Its why even the tau who are purely rational and sciencey, sometimes report a “ghost in the machine” when it comes to vehicles that have served a massive amount of time

[arctic talon]

Its not known aside from psykers/the psychically active and usually these things are referred to as relics/unique oddities ect.

The imperium believes they’re machine sprints often

[winged jacinth]

they're usually just considered miracles which everyone believes in

[sour hornet]

I mean, I thought so too, but the sequence of Emps landing on Mars during the HH is really weird

[winged jacinth]

hes straight up making bible references during that

you cant tell me that reddit atheist hasnt read it

[autumn marten]

Why are they called the Crimson Fists? Long Story Short: She was on her period

[winged jacinth]

"machine, heal thyself" is just "physician, heal thyself"

hes doing jesus improv

[young pecan]

"Ol' Bessie here's been with me for ages"
"He says his name is Greg, actually"

[arctic talon]

But it’s funnily enough why the tau value specific onegar gauntlet prototypes

And try to salvage them

They perform better then others for some reason

[winged jacinth]

weapon xp...

[arctic talon]

It’s weird and illogical

But they just work better

Ignore the fact the people using them died horribly

[sour hornet]

Its a weapon, a few users are destined to suffer unspeakable horrors occasionally while wielding it

carry on

[quasi temple]

So one could also argue that the "blessings" on certain pieces of technology are actually the power of operator belief

[winged jacinth]

it is a convenient way to in lore make relic weapons actually more effective

a power sword used by a bunch of heroes will actually be more powerful than a newly made one

[quasi temple]

My gun isn't magically more accurate, I just have a placebo effect going on when I hold it

[young pecan]

If you mean in relation to Darktide, yeah probably

[sour hornet]

Directly yeah.

[young pecan]

Placebo + Collective belief means you get sliiiight actuality sometimes and the former orher times

[arctic talon]

It’s also really well made and upgraded sometimes lol

It varies

[winged jacinth]

they might also be modifications the mechanicus just calls blessings

[quasi temple]

Patches

[arctic talon]

Relics vary from

“This gun was made good good”

“This tank cannon has someone’s fucking soul shoved into it and was made from the blood of martyrs”

[winged jacinth]

that too but they definitely accumulate narrative power from being used for stuff

[sour hornet]

What makes a relic power sword better than a normal one is a combo of build quality and its "spirit"

[arctic talon]

Actual guard relic btw

Lmao

Cadians got a tank gun made out of dead Cadians blood and the shrapnel picked from them

💀

[winged jacinth]

classic

[sour hornet]

One relic sword was legitimately just a normal sword until the guardsman using it got spontaneously blessed and it became a powerful relic.

[arctic talon]

Not the only cadian relic made out of cadian blood

They also got a bell made of it of it as well

Lmao

[spare osprey]

Got a real silly question.

Regular humans/guardsmen have a tenuous relationship with techpriests, yeah?
What if a guard regiment is... very, very welcoming and genuinely courteous to their Martian comrades? Like, Italian family-esque hugs, kisses, and cheers?

Would the priests of Mars flare up with their mechadentrites with an absolute 'NO?'
Would they need a cooling system over the unprecedented feeling of being appreciated?
Would they get an ego boost at least?

[young pecan]

Could go any which way

[sour hornet]

Depends. (I hate this phrase.)

[young pecan]

But if you're asking whether they can show favoritism, absolutely

[winged jacinth]

its legitimately that techpriest culture is really weird so they get along normally with forgeworld regiments

[sour hornet]

Tech-priests are typically very non-touchy so it would be weird.

[winged jacinth]

they probably wouldnt be fans of hugs thats fair

[sour hornet]

They kinda eschew, or try to eschew normal behavior like that.

[young pecan]

They would most likely not like hugs though

[winged jacinth]

hugs would fuck up all their trinkets

[young pecan]

They might like the sentiment though, if you're close to them

[arctic talon]

This is often the case with vostroyan regiments due to their ties to the mechanicus and the mechanicus tends to play favorites with them

Enginseers in vostroyan regiments are on average friendlier

[quasi temple]

A culture that deplores physical touch, so how do they uh... reproduce?

[arctic talon]

With the regiment

[arctic talon]

Vatgrown kids

Some naturally made ones

[quasi temple]

Lolol

[arctic talon]

But mostly vatgrown

[quasi temple]

The typo was funnier

[arctic talon]

Auto corrects a bitch lol

[winged jacinth]

even the natural born ones are probably fertilized in vitro

[arctic talon]

But vostroya is an imperial world with close ties to the mechanicus

Which leads to a level of comraderie

[winged jacinth]

can definitely see a biologis having a kid just to see what its like lol

[quasi temple]

Thats horrifying. So they extract the gametes and put them in a tube? Man

[arctic talon]

“THIS REALLY HURTS”

[arctic talon]

Yeah they grow them to be about 10 years old before they leave the tube

And they get sorted

[winged jacinth]

dial up noises

[arctic talon]

Into dif roles

[spare osprey]

Yeah... my silly little homebrew regiment has it engraved into their spirits to 'be thankful, dammit.'

A newer techpriest helps a tanker crew restart a Leman Russ and they get one of those picked up by the thighs super hugs. Peppered with kisses.

[arctic talon]

But for example

Cawl grew up in a tube as part of a mass “growing” batch

When he popped out he was already being curious, and annoying the genator with questions

He got sent to become a tech priest lol

Sometimes tech priests just grow one kid

If they just want a sucessor/child

Ect.

But it’s more often big batches

[winged jacinth]

i wonder if they do brave new world shit to the tube babies

making 64 deltas from one egg

[arctic talon]

They do when they do specific orders

[winged jacinth]

i guess they kinda gave up on like the gene regiments for guard and stuff

but maybe for skitarii

[arctic talon]

But there’s a dif between “I need a bunch of people”

And “I need a bunch of specifically genebulked bodies for servitors”

[winged jacinth]

geno 5-2 chilliad was the one cool part of that alpha legion john grammaticus book

[arctic talon]

Cawl was part of a skitarii batch

lol

Funnily enough

[winged jacinth]

that's pretty funny

i need to read the cawl books but libgen only let me DL one

deadlinks for ciaphas cain too 🙁

[sour hornet]

Are skitarii the jrotc kids of the admech?

Magos Biologis are the buff jocks 100%

[winged jacinth]

if by that you mean trained as child soldiers until they grow into adult soldiers yeah

[arctic talon]

They’re also religious fanatics

If following the Martian standard template

[winged jacinth]

for a fun radiation subcult!

[arctic talon]

They’re like sisters of battle but admech and both genders

[winged jacinth]

often

[arctic talon]

lol

[sour hornet]

Ahh

I see

[arctic talon]

That’s sort of how they’re treated by tech priests

[sour hornet]

Cawl was one of those???

[arctic talon]

They’re the religous muscle

Cawl was meant to be one of those

[sour hornet]

Bro is NOT religious

[arctic talon]

But he was too smart

At birth

lol

[winged jacinth]

cawl was born from a batch meant to feed the skitarii programs

[arctic talon]

Nurture not nature

[plush mason]

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[arctic talon]

Cawl was raised in a dif environment

From the rest of his batch

He also outlived them all

💀

[winged jacinth]

he outlived everyone

[sour hornet]

How can Skitarii even meaningfully show independence

[arctic talon]

They’re sentient and sapient people

[sour hornet]

dont they have brain impulse units?

[arctic talon]

Not really

[winged jacinth]

they're not servitorized

[arctic talon]

They have a specific uplink system that allows a tech priest of sufficient rank or higher ranking skitarii

To take direct control

[winged jacinth]

they can get noospheric orders as well but they mostly are like guard

[arctic talon]

And to puppet them to an extent

Aside from that they’re independent beings

[winged jacinth]

crazy cyborg guard

[arctic talon]

Religious fanatics

Highly trained

Highly motivated

[winged jacinth]

also highly equipped

[sour hornet]

Basically they're people but can be turned into ants by an officer

[arctic talon]

Yes

[winged jacinth]

they're probably the imperium's scariest infantry

[sour hornet]

Thats pretty sick

[arctic talon]

The mechanicus as a whole are a hivemind

Due to the noosphere

[sour hornet]

What's their life expectancy?

[winged jacinth]

if i were a fire warrior vs skitarii i'd be freaked out

[winged jacinth]

bad!

[arctic talon]

Similar to tempestus scions in terms of how long they live

Which is to say

They die horribly

lol

Skitarii get sent to absolute shitholes

[winged jacinth]

if you dont get killed you die of cancer too

[arctic talon]

Well

Not always

Pass the crux

And you’ll live

But veteran skitarii are extremely rare

[sour hornet]

Don't they have environmental resistance?

[arctic talon]

Yes

But absolute shitholes mean the thing they’re fighting is usually awful

[sour hornet]

🥀

[arctic talon]

They’re similar to imperial stormtroopers

Yeah

You got way better gear

Now go fight the chaos space marines

💀

[sour hornet]

💀

[arctic talon]

Skitarii are massively punching down

Against cultists and uprisings and stuff

Which is their other use

But their intended “targets” mostly end up with them punching up lol

[winged jacinth]

they also have the uh, honorable job of screening titans

[arctic talon]

Those are secutarii

Which are veteran skitarii

And also even more fanatical

💀

[winged jacinth]

tfw the machine you worship as an avatar of god accidentally steps on you

[arctic talon]

Tbf

That doesn’t happen

Bcs secutarii are linked to the princeps

[winged jacinth]

titan steps are probably pretty predictable too

[arctic talon]

The princeps knows where their secutarii screen are at all times

And if they die LOL

[winged jacinth]

im sure when titans fall over theres some squishing though lol

[sour hornet]

Or when they explode

[winged jacinth]

thats extra fun

[sour hornet]

Probably some collateral

Just a few

[sour hornet]

predictable ≠ avoidable 💀

[winged jacinth]

speaking of titans wasnt the whole campaign of DOW winter assault in order to retrieve the volcano cannon off a busted imperator? or was the imperator recoverable

[arctic talon]

I think it was for the whole Titan

[winged jacinth]

that makes more sense

i think you just use the volcano cannon for something at the end?

does make you wonder what situation results in one recoverable imperator titan being left there

i guess the planet fell to chaos and the dark mechanicus just never got around to it!

oh it was world eaters lmao that makes sense they'd let an imperator go to waste

[young pecan]

BO2 Origins says yes

[young pecan]

The mental image of Ravenor's corpse chair flying through a wall of trash is frying me

[sacred ginkgo]

What are we doing

[rocky gale]

The best version of the Legion is in the OWB mod the Alt path where Lanius goes East before the second battle of Hoover Damn, meets the Goddess Diana and realises that Caesar is cringe and founds a Roman Republic in the East to overthrow him

[jade holly]

The best faction for the Mojave is me

I will do nothing

But only things that benefit just me

[young pecan]

Which chat is this in

[sacred ginkgo]

Guess

[rose thorn]

Average 40K server

[young pecan]

Gen

[sacred ginkgo]

Correct

[rose thorn]

THAT WAS IN GEN???

[young pecan]

Always bet on Gen...

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-angry-birds-gif-14664813930774351418

[jade holly]

Honestly if I had to choose I don’t think I like either NCR or Caesar’s Legion

More often than not the Yes Man ending is the way I go

[young pecan]

The Legion is the most obviously bad outcome for the whole Mojave it's like completely satirical

I can't tell if dude is attention seeking with bait or if he's actually that dumb

[spare osprey]

"Secure trade routes."
Yeah, secure slave trade routes for they'd gladly put 'em in.
Some folk got a mighty high opinion of themselves.

[young pecan]

Love that the Khan Legion ending is just "Damn, all of our wives and children were sold into slavery. But I guess we're not extinct so there's that."

[heady rivet]

Personally I chose Legion for the sweaty himbo army and getting to share a tent with them in the desert

[young pecan]

The best outcome you have under the Legion is moderate misery or brainwashed fanaticism LMAO

Or yeah being into Roman LARPers works too

[spare osprey]

I would suggest to just join the Khans at that point, but those guys are chem fiends.

[rose thorn]

Virgin CL vs Chad Khans

[heady rivet]

The Bitter Springs massacre didnt happen and if it did they deserved it

[young pecan]

This but semi unironically

The civilians and children getting murked was bad but dude the entire faction admits that they exist to raid caravans and leech

Of course people are going to hunt you bro stop victimizing yourself

[heady rivet]

When my raiderous faction gets shot back at (Its bad now)

[young pecan]

"But you weren't supposed to do it back "

[spare osprey]

I've always been half-and-half between House and the NCR.

To me, an NCR ending just feels like living like another state in the modern-day US, flaws and all (With surprisingly a little less racism, too).

A House ending is a very ambitious one... he DID keep the Strat the Lucky 38 intact along with a decent amount of the Strip... but trusting a Libertarian sounds... eh.

[young pecan]

House is just Elon Musk except he's actually a tiny bit smart

All he wants to do is go to Mars instead of fixing Earth or something like that

His rule is very questionable as well

NCR is just America stinkism

FNV doesn't seem to have any truly good ending unless you headcanon your courier as being intelligent and charismatic in a Yes Man ending

[storm jungle]

Primarch pfp

Mortarion

dead giveaway

Also genuinely dissapointed you didnt DM so that I could nuke this guy, fucking creep lmao

[sacred ginkgo]

Oh this is death sentence worthy?

Damn

I thought it was just abysmal take

[winged jacinth]

"law and order in the mojave"

[storm jungle]

I read his other messages

guy is a literal incel lmao

[winged jacinth]

yes the roving warband that doesnt maintain its own territory will bring more law and order than the organized state or the local established warlord people like

[storm jungle]

It says a lot ngl

guy followed it up with

"I dont care about morality in video games"

"Also I killed everyone as Durge in BG3"

Uhuh...

then jumped STRAIGHT into "liberals"

[winged jacinth]

i still cant get over the law and order thing

the legion canonically leaves chaos in its wake and its only going to get worse when caesar dies in a few years even if you cure his cancer because hes old as shit

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are tribal savages that LARP as romans

[daring creek]

mfs rlly do believe profits before the people

[winged jacinth]

i hate to be the media literacy award guy but they're a literal roving pack of barbarians lmao

[daring creek]

godness

[storm jungle]

the entire joke is what i said too lmao

i love people who keep saying "i wish the original ideas for the legion made it into the game" etc etc

im glad it fucking didnt

what we have in the fandom rn is worse enough

[winged jacinth]

legitimately why would anyone side with the legion when the yes man route exists

just be the warlord if you love warlords

that way you get to be in charge!

[storm jungle]

Its because of the roman aesthetic, which is even funnier because they dress up in shitty sports gear

[young pecan]

Kirk down

[winged jacinth]

what did they mean by this

[daring creek]

hows this relevant

was kirk a roman or

[young pecan]

Incel

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-depp-captain-jack-sparrow-at-worlds-end-pirates-of-the-caribbean-movie-gif-15373113

[sacred ginkgo]

Me when my great empire's industrial base is so fucking bad that despite having guns its worse than the one from 2000 years ago

[young pecan]

Colloquially that is

[winged jacinth]

i think you might be a little behind on the news bud

[young pecan]

It's like saying Hitler Down

[daring creek]

Mussolini died

[winged jacinth]

oh

[outer wave]

Been lurking for a bit, but the fact he says this makes me think he said this to get a rise out of people; I have no real evidence on how or why, but it just has that vibe

[winged jacinth]

i get what you're going for but i dont think anyone is saying that

[hallow saddle]

chud DOWN

[young pecan]

Nobody says things until the first person does

[winged jacinth]

acting like kirk was important in any way is more respect than he deserves anyway

[hallow saddle]

kirk was a tool

[young pecan]

I don't think he deserves respect but he was absolutely influential

[outer wave]

Kirk is still a tool even after death

[winged jacinth]

one of a whole menagerie of TPUSA talking heads

[young pecan]

And not just for his public image

[winged jacinth]

interchangeable

[young pecan]

He started questioning Israel and then got slimed

[arctic talon]

Pick the enclave

Kill everyone

[young pecan]

I think that shows well enough that they considered him important enough xd

[storm jungle]

Guy's last message rn was "elden ring sucks" so deffo prob the case

the mortarion pfp gives it away

[outer wave]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

Enclave are so fucking funny lol

They’re so comedically evil

[hallow saddle]

i went down a rabbit hole recently of the seven mountains mandate (a weird evangelical/christian nationalist idea) and how it worked its way into turning point USA

its all pretty similar to what the heritage foundation have been doing

[arctic talon]

Unsurprising

[nocturne crest]

Hard to believe that Fallout 3 was the last time the Enclave played a big role in the series.

[winged jacinth]

trying to install their computer president(???)

[young pecan]

Especially since they're the remnants of the U.S. government unless I'm mistaken

[winged jacinth]

yeah

[arctic talon]

They’re the US shadow government government yeah

And they’re a bunch of psychos lol

[nocturne crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u7rkKAFUYM

[winged jacinth]

they get wiped out on the west coast in 2 then on the east coast in 3

[young pecan]

You'd think the evil rich people would try a little harder when they're actively getting prep time vs. ragtag groups like BoS and NCR

[arctic talon]

Not entirely on the west coast

Sorta

East coast seems pretty fuckin dead tho lol

[winged jacinth]

their outer heaven gets blown up right

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Posidon oil got blown up

[heady rivet]

Fallout 3 had such shit writing its unreal

[arctic talon]

By some tribal bumfuck(the player)

The survivors scattered

Also there’s enclave in the American Midwest around Chicago still

lol

They’re like cockroaches

Except 10x more violent and facist

[winged jacinth]

it seems like the west coast enclave has dispersed enough by FNV that the veterans are just like, hiding out as followers of the apocalypse and shit

[arctic talon]

Yep

[outer wave]

I seriously wish people held HF more accountable for whats been going on in the US and such; it feels as though people forget them

[heady rivet]

Frank Horrigan ( ) was nerfed so the player could win at all because he really was just That Guy

[winged jacinth]

in short the enclave was pretty well prepared and then systematically destroyed by people who thought they sucked

[heady rivet]

Shoutout to the opening movie of Fallout 2 being completely non-canon and just there to aura farm and hide a loading screen

[arctic talon]

A tribal idiot who didn’t know how to use a gun my GOAT the chosen one

[winged jacinth]

they cant be a major power anymore because everyone goes "the enclave? i'll fuckin gut you like a fish you sick bastard"

[nocturne crest]

Shame that Fallout can't move forward anymore.

[young pecan]

Project 2025 going ahead of schedule was great

I loved that

[outer wave]

Did that shit even get completed? I heard like half got completed

[arctic talon]

No

[hallow saddle]

it is still ongoing

[outer wave]

Good

[arctic talon]

It’s in progress

[hallow saddle]

actively

[outer wave]

Bad

[arctic talon]

Yeah

lol

[hallow saddle]

its not good at all

[arctic talon]

Its awful

lol

[nocturne crest]

It's falling apart.

[arctic talon]

Unless you’re extremely rich + a Christian nationalist

Then it’s good for you

[outer wave]

I meant good as in "They're not progressing as fast as they'd like"

[young pecan]

Not completed

[arctic talon]

But only if both those things are true

[hallow saddle]

Russ Vought is still the main driver

[arctic talon]

It is ahead of their schedule

[hallow saddle]

and they have a secret second part

[arctic talon]

In some places

We only know the public bits

Yeah

[hallow saddle]

its all diabolical

[nocturne crest]

Political sentence: ||Turns out no US oil company wants to invest or get involved in extracting oil from Venezuela.||

[outer wave]

OH YEAH

[daring creek]

nice cw

lmao

[outer wave]

Yeah Ive been hearing about that

What a fucking waste

[winged jacinth]

no longer popular to operate death squads to resist the guerillas trying to push you out

[nocturne crest]

Yep. Apparently Trump is pissed off about it as well.

[daring creek]

whay happened to the US being self reliant like Mr Trump wanted

:C

[outer wave]

I know he's trying to strongarm them

[winged jacinth]

which is what they used to do before cellphone cameras

[outer wave]

He's also apparently getting resistance for invading Greenland from the top brass

[winged jacinth]

reminder that coca cola operated death squads to kill union leaders in south america!

yeah invading greenland is a really fucking bad idea lol

i dont think even his cronies want that

[nocturne crest]

He and his group are trying to speed run stuff because he might be out because of the midterms.

[arctic talon]

You know another country that tried that, North Korea

[winged jacinth]

hes just stuck on that

[hallow saddle]

nato havent even issued any kind of statement on the latest greenland threats yet

imagine having no fucking balls

[outer wave]

He's already trying to fix the elections from what I know, like saying mailed votes dont count or whatever

[arctic talon]

Trumps a dumbass for trying to invade Greenland

[daring creek]

everytime I see NK it always looks like a fucking prison its so wide and empty

look on google maps

you won't see shit

144p

[winged jacinth]

denmark at least was like "yeah we cant win against the US but uh, over our dead bodies anyway"

[opaque coyote]

Even on a pure imperialistic end.

It's fucking dumb since it'll require 60-70 years minimum for it to actually be worth it

[arctic talon]

Or even thinking of it

[daring creek]

ok

[nocturne crest]

Austria have. They've said they'll take over US bases in their country.

[daring creek]

why is he trying to invade greenland

whats the gain

[winged jacinth]

mineral wealth

[dapper gyro]

Oil

[outer wave]

Yeah Europe countries have been defensive over Greenland from what Ive seen

[arctic talon]

We dunno, probably natural resources but it’s stupid

[young pecan]

What is new

[daring creek]

Actual fucking stereotype holy shit

[opaque coyote]

There's a fuck ton of resources. Oil, minerals, etc.

The problem is that it'll only be revealed...

60-70 years later.

Due to global warming

[winged jacinth]

denmark would probably force the EU into the issue as a separate entity from NATO

[opaque coyote]

That's a generous estimate btw

[hallow saddle]

ya, indivudual countires have. france talked about maybe putting some troops there. uk also foated it iirc

[opaque coyote]

Could be even longer

[arctic talon]

Also no shit the military doesn’t want to invade Greenland

[opaque coyote]

So he wants to invade a country for benefits that will be apparent...

When we're all old and grey

[arctic talon]

They’re literally part of an allied nation

Like

Mf’er

[dapper gyro]

Not chatting here for a week, thing stays the same.

[hallow saddle]

its a stupid idea from someone simpleminded

[outer wave]

I also think he's gonna end up spreading out his military too much, between South America (Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia, Cuba) and Greenland and potentially Canada, that cant be good for defense

[opaque coyote]

Even if we ignore how stupid it is to invade our allied nation.

It's difficult to invade Greenland. Especially when 90% of it is Ice.

[arctic talon]

Venezuela isn’t an allied nation, which is why the military went through with it

[opaque coyote]

And there's

One passage way

[arctic talon]

The military isn’t in Venezuela

[opaque coyote]

That barely fits any boats

[arctic talon]

They’re gone already

It was a smash and grab

And by smash and grab I mean they grabbed Maduro and his wife and dipped

[opaque coyote]

And also they're advising American people to leave because now the militias are retaking control

[outer wave]

I know, but I wonder if they may try something again, especially with Trump's threats

[opaque coyote]

Yeah totally worth the investment

[spare osprey]

Man, I just wanna worry about helpin' folk and affording to live for the next handful of decades.

[arctic talon]

Unfortunately that’s not the US you get to live in rn 💀

[heady rivet]

The military already is spread out all over, the power projection is why the US military is the number one military

[arctic talon]

If you’re in the US

Also yeah the military is already all over the fucking place lol

[opaque coyote]

I am afraid that the best scenario is me getting away

[heady rivet]

Pretty sure we have more supercarriers than the whole world combined

[arctic talon]

Yes

lol

[spare osprey]

Indeed I am.
Surprised my city remains as mild as it is.

[winged jacinth]

trump destabilizing a south american government and trying to get the oil companies to move in is weirdly 80s i dont know why he tried that now

[arctic talon]

The US’s military spending is insane

[arctic talon]

Bro pulled a Panema

But shittier

[opaque coyote]

That's because no sane person really wants this

[arctic talon]

It’s literally what bush did in panema

But shittier

[heady rivet]

Reagan took ovver his body first night in the White House

[arctic talon]

Nah

Reagan didn’t do that

[opaque coyote]

Bro Donald is worse than Reagan

[arctic talon]

He was much more uh

[opaque coyote]

Genuinely

And Reagan was already awful

[arctic talon]

In terms of foreign policy yeah deadass

lol

Regan is better

[opaque coyote]

At least Reagan had the motive to want to keep America a democracy

[winged jacinth]

got taken over by late-brain reagan

[spare osprey]

Sane and Las Vegas is something nobody could've seen coming.

[opaque coyote]

At least

[arctic talon]

When he had dementia?

[outer wave]

Trump is basically a husk of a person thats either going off of what his friends or HT tells him to do, or whatever fancies him

[arctic talon]

lol

[winged jacinth]

yeah

[heady rivet]

You are utterly INSANE if you're gassing Reagan by literally any metric

[opaque coyote]

I'm beginning to think the latter with how stupid these moves are on so many level

[young pecan]

Well that's why they're trying to speed it up

[opaque coyote]

Not even beneficial for any prospecting oligarchy

[young pecan]

Drill baby drill!!!!

[opaque coyote]

I know Project 2025 is a thing.

And I know that the US Government is following exactly that.

But Project 2025 is fucking stupid.

[hallow saddle]

reagan started the ball rolling to where we are now

[opaque coyote]

Even for a imperialistic country

Honestly we should be ashamed over the fact that they got this far

Genuinely

[daring creek]

I think hes aware of the damage he does, he simply doesn't care.

He's losing luster gradually. He's getting up in age, and is only having more and more health issues. People still look up to this rotting corpse so he's still important as a propagandic mouth piece.

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if Trump is going to try and bully the UK into not banning twitter/x, because they're talking about it with Canada and Australia now.

[opaque coyote]

Because comparing Trump to the Nazi's.

Is like comparing a Middle Schooler Basketball team to the NBA.

They're both playing the same game, but one was obviously much better at it.

And I hope that they don't get better at the game.

[hallow saddle]

honestly im pretty sure christian nationalism is going to be even bigger in the next few years. it seems to be what maga is moving towards

[outer wave]

He might be aware, but I dunno how much of him is there, you know?

[daring creek]

Fleshbag

[storm jungle]

The only country that provided any statement is Denmark and it was that if any "invaders" land they can enact an older military law where their forces can fire upon them without asking any questions.

This was i think like 2-3 days ago too so VERY fresh.

[outer wave]

My ogryn seeing a chaos spawn come in in Darktide

[opaque coyote]

Ignoring the fact that many of the liberal states™ that they rant about literally carry them.

Honestly states like California could legitimately cut them off and they would suffer because of it. But that would start a civil war.

[daring creek]

I'm not sure if he has like. actual brain deteriotation. And its really not far fetched to imagine he does

[daring creek]

Bidens Health team hid it for a whole fucking term

[arctic talon]

Trump is def sick

He looks

Really bad

[heady rivet]

He is clearly lucid and aware if you actually watch anything with him though

[daring creek]

We had a man ridden with dementia for a fucking term.

[arctic talon]

Like really really really bad

He’s lucid

[storm jungle]

He literally almost fell asleep mid speech lol

[arctic talon]

But he’s def sick

[storm jungle]

i also noticed hes kinda slurring his words a lot

[hallow saddle]

smfh. what a clown show

[daring creek]

what is he

79?

[heady rivet]

Least reactionary protestant megachurch

[storm jungle]

LITERAL imperial preacher

[arctic talon]

He’s not as physically well as he used to

[opaque coyote]

Y'know out of sheer spite. I almost hope it does succeed just to show how fucking awful it would be for everyone. I hope they cry as they realize that they can't pay for basic needs anymore.

[outer wave]

That bit of him standing up and looking at his imaginary ballroom area is wild though

[arctic talon]

It’s extremely obvious

Tbh

[storm jungle]

"IVE COOM, WITH THE EMPERORS CREED FOR GLORIOUS HOLY PROMETHIUM IN HANNnnnnd."

[opaque coyote]

I am so tired

[heady rivet]

He really is just Like That naturally

[daring creek]

lets just keep blaming minorities for all of our problems

surely

this will solve the issue

[outer wave]

Problem is his supporters wont cry; they'll still praise it and go "This is actually what we wanted" or at least the bots will anyway

[hallow saddle]

its notable by the way that a bunch of the silicon valley tech bros are moving towards christian nationalism too

like seriously moving towards it

[opaque coyote]

If the midterms don't fucking kick the Trump Administration out.

I might actually begin crying.

[young pecan]

Wrong take because cognitive dissonance always always wins

[outer wave]

You cant convince me he was like that when he was younger, because thats very unlucid behavior

[heady rivet]

Dw the Democrats will win and then continue going "Man wish somebody stopped this" 👍

[opaque coyote]

Trump's first term had actual goals and plans

The second term literally just feels like he's doing whatever the fuck he wants

[young pecan]

I may be starving to death but at least I owned the liberals!!

[nocturne crest]

He's taking aspirin in a large amount to serve as a blood thinner.

[daring creek]

As far as I'm concerned its for the algorithym but its equally as bad as them genuinely believing what they say.

But I like to think the load of them are sycophants just trying to make their crypto go up in value.

[outer wave]

Not to be cynical, but be prepared that he stays in power, because Im sure they're gonna do everything they can to stay in their spots. Not trying to be that guy, but be prepped

[hallow saddle]

im waiting for JD Vance to officially move from catholicism to evangelicalism

[daring creek]

Prepared to stay in power?

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah Vance is a catholic lol

I forgot

[hallow saddle]

hes a fake catholic haha

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[daring creek]

Dude he's gonna die in office

[opaque coyote]

The Democrats are spineless as shit. Fucking Bernie, the old crippled man that he is, has more spine than a lot of them.

[daring creek]

Voting will not save us

[arctic talon]

All the older democrats are deadass controlled opposition at best

lol

[daring creek]

[storm jungle]

Anyone who votes is a dumbass.

[arctic talon]

That’s a stupid take

lol

[storm jungle]

Democrats bomb people, Republicans bomb people

[daring creek]

voting is lwk kinda gambling

[storm jungle]

i swear you people 💀

[arctic talon]

Internal politics are also a thing

Smh

[daring creek]

you're only hoping something good happens from your vote

ultimately

its very up in the air

[storm jungle]

Cool. Call me up when problems get fixed bozo

[opaque coyote]

I know. It's just that it's either the midterms or actual violence.

And I hope it isn't the latter. Because I don't want that to happen. I really don't.

[daring creek]

and the algorithm is dedicating everyones opinions now

[arctic talon]

lol

[opaque coyote]

I only hope because otherwise it will start a shit storm that will harm even more

And I'm genuinely terrified

[daring creek]

If you really want to make change? become a social media influencer atp

[hallow saddle]

theyre all cucked by AIPAC

[crystal forum]

i hope the US invades us so i can shoot american soldiers

[daring creek]

lol

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

Okay i need someone to explain this to me

[spare osprey]

duuuuude, i go to school in MN this shit has been something

[storm jungle]

why does AIPAC exist

is that all it is?

[spare osprey]

that's the point lol

[arctic talon]

There’s a group of Christian fundamentalists in the US who have some weird beliefs about Israel

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[opaque coyote]

I heard things like classes being online cause of ICE crawling everywhere like the maggots they are

[arctic talon]

And also yeah that

lol

[daring creek]

looking it up

yes.

[hallow saddle]

it links into christian zionism

[storm jungle]

by "weird" do you mean brainwashed

[daring creek]

"More than 5 million proud, pro-Israel Americans working to strengthen bipartisan support for the U.S.-Israel relationship."

Yeah

literally

[opaque coyote]

Well weird even for fundamentalists

[arctic talon]

Yes, and also they have some weird religious stuff involved

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

thats like saying "hindu orthodoxism", what is wrong with these people bruh 💀

[hallow saddle]

AIPAC is a huuge topic in itself

[crystal forum]

i literally just finished watching his video lol

[storm jungle]

Geopold is so good man

[spare osprey]

mhm, they've been getting students at dismissals and shit

[hallow saddle]

same in the UK btw, 13 out of 25 of kier starmer's cabinet take money from israel

[spare osprey]

they've actually kidnapped two people from my uni

[heady rivet]

And nobody knows anything about the "other side". I see people call the most Democrat liberal opinions of all time a "communist" and the most milquetoast basic Conservative a "nazi" because they just jump to "You are what I labelled you as therefore you are enemy" meanwhile they have the same fuckin opinion but from a different angle

[crystal forum]

went from geography memes to politics

[opaque coyote]

My dad supports ICE. He's only beginning to start doubting them because of Renee Good

[arctic talon]

Well

[vagrant fox]

is this finally relevant

[arctic talon]

Gotta start somewhere

[arctic talon]

Yes

[daring creek]

Stirring the pot

[opaque coyote]

This man has a fucking PHd in Computer Engineering btw

[spare osprey]

shame, so many other people have died before her. it's upsetting it's taken so long for ppl to notice

[spare osprey]

I don't even know what sparked it--

[arctic talon]

Protestants are so fucking weird

[heady rivet]

Protestants believe Israel must exist because all the Jews have to return to Israel for the bilical End Times to begin

[spare osprey]

immigrants make up such a large community here too

[storm jungle]

Oh my god man im so tired 💀

[vagrant fox]

american protestants and papists you mean ☝️ 🤓

[opaque coyote]

My dad is an immigrant btw

[rocky gale]

We do?

[arctic talon]

It’s because the way she died was extremely distinct + it was recorded from multiple angels + she’s white

So

[storm jungle]

[daring creek]

It doesn't matter until a white person dies.

[heady rivet]

The Papacy has condemned Israel and its actions for like 6 popes in a row now

[valid needle]

What is AIPAC

[hallow saddle]

its more specifically evangelists than protestants in general iirc

[arctic talon]

If you’re an American Protestant yes

[opaque coyote]

Tbf some of those were actually white people too

[valid needle]

Fuck me that was quick

[vagrant fox]

It is my sacred duty as a protestant to condemn american heresies and catholics

[rocky gale]

I know Church of Ireland are a weird Protestant church, but I don't remember being told about the Israeli endtimes

[arctic talon]

Also white people have died before her

[hallow saddle]

AIPAC is the israel lobby in america

[storm jungle]

basically in 40k terms

[spare osprey]

oh i know, just saying it's so different to be living with these folks and noticing and being on the outside seeing what you're pretty much lied to about

[storm jungle]

its like if the Imperium had an Eldar Office

and all it did was support eldar

and ignore imperial help

lmao

[opaque coyote]

It's just that this one is the first that was fully recorded.

And also the fucking shooter posted his footage on social media somehow thinking that it would absolve him.

[hallow saddle]

ya its mostly Evangelists

[vagrant fox]

It's more yankee nonsense dw

[daring creek]

American Israel Public Affairs Committee

[crystal forum]

literally nothing will stop ICE short of state police going to war with them (won't happen)

[valid needle]

Disgusting

[heady rivet]

Zionist entity that openly brags about paying off US politicians to put Israels interests before America. They also brag that all the people they support always win. Aint that funny?

[spare osprey]

i went to high school in oklahoma and middle in florida and i was born in north carolina so it's been right wing shit most of my life lmao

[storm jungle]

One is based the other isnt alas

[arctic talon]

Its an American evangelist thing specifically

[dark moon]

Don’t even get me started on those Gestapo rats. I’m so fucking tired of them scurrying around here.

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah.

It LITERALLY just exists as a parasitic foreign branch to support a completely different country by leeching off of the US which is insane.

[arctic talon]

England and Ireland Protestants are pretty close to catholic despite not being catholic

[hallow saddle]

see the Seven Mountains Mandate which i mentioned earlier

[spare osprey]

my dad's a jew and zionist and i go to a woke asf school so, lotta arguments here

[rocky gale]

The fun part of Church of Ireland is that it identifies as both Catholic and Protestant, while rejecting the authority of Rome

[arctic talon]

That would mean they’re not catholic tho

[heady rivet]

Crazy that JFK died right after he denied Israel nukes and wanted AIPAC to be registered as a foreign entity

And LBJ overlooked the USS Liberty thats wild

[rocky gale]

Na but they are

[storm jungle]

Tbh JFK's death has always been 100% done by bigger parties but people flipflop between Goonrael or CIA

[arctic talon]

You need to accept the authority of the pope tho to be catholic 💀

[crystal forum]

i'm praying for the day that people start realizing they can just stand together and best the shit out of the fatass gestapo agents

[spare osprey]

BRO i went to a local band's show at a cafe here, and i posted an img of the inside and he msg'd me with a screenshot of a Palestinian flag in there and he just says "Why?"

[storm jungle]

Almost the entire crew murdered

i legit cannot believe they let this shit go