40k-lore-chat

[jade holly]

[surreal nest]

bro is an arbites main

[jade holly]

Damn it got freaky in here

[heady rivet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/349377872240181248/1100215280187216013/95FE4B0F-115C-4C7D-90BC-56647BDE73C2.gif

[queen laurel]

You're really new here or something we do this every time?

[crystal forum]

homelessness is a serious crime in terium

[queen laurel]

this place is random but it's mostly 40K lore

[jade holly]

I just never usually see this part lmao

That or I forget it

[surreal nest]

i think the new deadlock update needs to drop or I start stacking bodies

[jade holly]

I’m waiting for Deadlock to come to Xbox

[heady rivet]

Everyone buy a Necromunda gang NOW

[crystal forum]

deadlock manifesto

[jade holly]

like that’ll ever happen

[spring cairn]

evil sheitan sentence

[crystal forum]

i hope consoles skyrocket in price because of ram

[jade holly]

Well we know building PCs did

[crystal forum]

i hope nobody buys consoles anymore

[surreal nest]

bro they already skyrocketed without ram

[crystal forum]

i hope microsoft dies

[surreal nest]

switch and ps5 climbed to like 200+ dollars after launch

[crystal forum]

and then half the gaming industries dies with it

[surreal nest]

not my super lord gaben!

[wintry cloud]

We stay freaky king

[spring cairn]

my second semester about to start and it's still not out

life is bleak

[queen laurel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/HZWWVbaBNmM?si=BInruF5ZV4wq522l

[spring cairn]

kms soon

[jade holly]

I just hate the CEOs that are trying to act like GenAI is the Ai to be focusing on

I hate it so much

[heady rivet]

Alright everyone time to dole out your assigned gang please line up

[wintry cloud]

Ai lowkey makes me anxious

[jade holly]

There’s so many better applications of AI to help actually refine the company but no they want to use the worst one

[wintry cloud]

It doesn’t stop

[heady rivet]

It will be based on vibes

[wintry cloud]

It just keeps growing

[crystal forum]

https://youtube.com/shorts/e2Kz0FEZMus?si=eIPznn_Drb0G_RQc

[jade holly]

The bubble’s gonna pop. Some companies are already realizing people don’t like the AI services they give

[wintry cloud]

I hope so

[crystal forum]

works every time

[jade holly]

not to mention how people can easily use AI for bad and lead to legal problems

[crystal forum]

just raise price

[queen laurel]

I am a firm believer that AI can genuinely help people if used properly but used properly isn't usually what people are thinking about when using it

[heady rivet]

@jade holly Congrats, you get Delaque as your gang. Congrats

[jade holly]

That’s why I specify GenAI. So many fields where it actually helps like detecting cancer early in people

[wintry cloud]

In theory yeah it can definitely be something that can help humanity

If only humans weren’t the way we are

[heady rivet]

@queen laurel You can vibe with Goliath I feel. Got a great vibe here

[crystal forum]

kill all AI no matter the use

[jade holly]

But I must emphasize this:

Disney invested $1b into Ai and allowed Sora to use their characters. We have been given the opportunity of a lifetime.

[crystal forum]

my honest moderate position is every AI datafarm should be blown up with nukes

[queen laurel]

Yeah but I don't have money and i also like the ashwaste nomads

[heady rivet]

Its a full playable gang for the price of one unit in 40k

[jade holly]

I’m just hoping people get sued over AI to the point legal restrictions get put in place to contain it

It’s the Wild West right now and some people are already getting in trouble with it

[crystal forum]

the US federal government has literally made it illegal to sue AI

[heady rivet]

Valid opinion as well, but Goliath is the closest to some boyz imo

[winged jacinth]

Democract lawmakers in DC watching all this shit going "i wish SOMEONE was in a position to take a stand 😢"

[jade holly]

Not sure where you heard this. Just looked it up and found an official .gov site talking about actions being taken against the use of AI in deceptive ways

[heady rivet]

Democrats are the controlled opposition. AT BEST they're Uvalde cops, but thats too much credit

[wintry cloud]

I love my government

We got pedophiles one way and bystanders the other way

[winged jacinth]

'Alas as a 10 term senator i am weak and powerless because of my decaying bones"

[queen laurel]

i mean they are giant ab humans that are just as strong as a naked space marine if not stronger with certain drug uses

So like yeah I like them not a surprise on that part

[crystal forum]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crmddnge9yro.amp

[winged jacinth]

I don't even vote in my senatorial elections because i've had the same 2 for 30 years lol

[crystal forum]

states rights only when it matters

and when it's about slavery or smth

[jade holly]

Yeah not a fan of that

[crystal forum]

dont you just love when presidents proudly show off their signature like a kid showing their drawing to mom

[winged jacinth]

https://i.imgur.com/QrrdCqg.png

Hes really a special little guy

[crystal forum]

lmao

[heady rivet]

He's like if someone with Main Character Syndrome really was the Main Character

[crystal forum]

i mean it's a nobel peace prize

those things are worthless

[arctic talon]

didn't they give one to obama the same year he drone striked a bunch of people lol

[winged jacinth]

He wants one for exactly one reason
Obama has one and he doesnt
That's all

[arctic talon]

I'm aware

[crystal forum]

they gave one to henry fucking kissinger

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah thats right

LOL

💀

[crystal forum]

the vietnamese counterpart was supposed to get one too but he declined it for moral reasons

forgot his name

kissinger gladly took it ofc

i hope there's a hell sometimes

[arctic talon]

Kissinger's a power hungry piece of shit

who pretty much directly led to millions dying lol

due to his actions

[jade holly]

Did Kissinger die?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

yeah

[arctic talon]

he died of old age

[jade holly]

Last year?

[crystal forum]

few years ago

[jade holly]

Damn time’s flying by

[arctic talon]

he died at 100 years old

💀

[crystal forum]

i looked up a 2023 meme and people are already feeling nostalgic for it

are people really so fed up with 2025 that 2023 is nostalgic

[winged jacinth]

"Once you've been to cambodia you'll never stop wanting to beat Henry kissinger to death with your own hands" -Anthony Bourdain

[languid meadow]

FUCK NO

I rather 2025 over 23

[jade holly]

Kids these days will never know the bonkers existence of Ugandan Knuckles

[languid meadow]

I HATED THAT SHIT

[crystal forum]

i hope people pee on his grave regularly

like they do for thatcher

[jade holly]

2025 had shitty memes

It’s all garbage brainrot now

[arctic talon]

so was 2023

its always brain rot

[crystal forum]

2025 was a shitty year for me but only for personal reasons

[storm jungle]

Nope

[crystal forum]

2024 was a great year for me

one of the best

[storm jungle]

theres eras where bad memes outweight good ones

shut up you fucking spy

or im coming to thailand to kill you

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-oguri-uma-musume-umamusume-squishy-gif-14372802265437813043

[crystal forum]

give me your personal information

i will not send it back to glorious north korea

[storm jungle]

AAA-

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-hartwell-white-sr-walter-hartwell-breaking-bad-meme-gif-27113588

[crystal forum]

my name is sussy baka

i live in your head

[storm jungle]

Jay

I dunno man

you've been seeming sus lately

its almost like theres an impostor among us

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-hankshrader-realization-smh-gif-26343260

[languid meadow]

what year is it

2020

[jade holly]

They’re talking like they don’t realize Electric Mayhem will become the face of Rock n Roller Coaster

[languid meadow]

I hope not

[jade holly]

[crystal forum]

honestly the fact that he figures it out on the shitter will never not be funny to me

[jade holly]

Hank shit where he ate

[crystal forum]

the most pivotal moment in the series

on the toilet

did you guys watch puribus yet

[languid meadow]

naur

[jade holly]

Nope

[languid meadow]

not even time

EWNOGUh

ENOUGH

[crystal forum]

you have time

[jade holly]

Also I’m not joking

[languid meadow]

no im dying tmr

[jade holly]

[crystal forum]

stop dying

or i will kill you

@daring creek i rewatched the last episode

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/siegfried-gbvs-gbvsr-die-verdrängen-gif-17943989853454082534

also I don't like plurbius that much, I get if people like it tho

[crystal forum]

i didnt realize that the signal gets fucked up when he yells at the collective guy

[arctic talon]

having watched it

💀

anyways you can kill me now

lol

[crystal forum]

you play lol so your opinions are shit by default

[wintry cloud]

Nah 67 is unmatched

Only thing that rivals it is (you know who) fication

[crystal forum]

im so lucky to not have 67 ingrained in my head like sus was

[jade holly]

Everytime a kid says 67 the desire to bash my skull into a concrete pillar grows

[wintry cloud]

im cooked

My friends wont stop saying it

[crystal forum]

get better friends

[wintry cloud]

Infact we stepped it up further

We have 67
Then we go

“EIGHT NINEEEE”

[storm jungle]

My favorite part is how it literally means nothing

[arctic talon]

Why the fuck is Agartha mainstream now

[storm jungle]

its kinda why I just entirely ignore it

lmao

[arctic talon]

thats the weirdest meme of 2025

lol

[wintry cloud]

Bro agartha makes me wanna kms

[arctic talon]

the fact at the end of the year agartha became a mainstream like

[crystal forum]

we truly live in a postmodern era

[storm jungle]

White people. Hello?

[arctic talon]

"neo nazis are stupid thing"

[storm jungle]

I only know agartha from cod zombies

🙂‍↕️

[arctic talon]

Fuck this I'm moving to hyperborea

[wintry cloud]

I still dont know what agartha is

[crystal forum]

AYOOO

[wintry cloud]

I just see diddy and trump flying through it

And epstein

[crystal forum]

we gotta send samantha to agartha dilara

[arctic talon]

It was a hollow earth conspiracy theory co-opted by white supremacists

which now gets mocked relentlessly

by like

everyone with 3 brain cells

[jade holly]

If Hollow Earth is real my man Kong is ruling it smh

[heady rivet]

White Supremacists (Chileans), for who popularized it among esoteric Nazi circles

[wintry cloud]

And also the “where have you been” rihanna epic orchestral mix with kirk leading the pedo right wing avengers

[crystal forum]

conspiracy theorists are often racist af

[wintry cloud]

I see that man EVERYDAY

[winged jacinth]

the TLDR of the original agartha conspiracy was that dinosaurs didnt go extinct they moved inside the hollow earth

[wintry cloud]

I SEE HIS FACE EVERY SINGLE DAY

[jade holly]

The Kirkification of Ai was hilarious though

[wintry cloud]

It is

[crystal forum]

we are

[outer wave]

Charlie

[winged jacinth]

and then nazi "archaeologists" had all kinds of fun ideas about atlantis and agartha and giants and magic

[wintry cloud]

KIIIIIIIRK WE CAAARRRRRYYY THE FLAMEEEEEE

[winged jacinth]

indiana jones is a documentary besides the magic being real

[crystal forum]

i love how atlantis is literally just fanfiction from plato

and people think it's real

[outer wave]

I love how nazi theories and conspiracies have been turned into some weird wacky dumb shit

[arctic talon]

I don't get how white supremacists didn't co-opt fucking hyberborea yet

lol

considering Agartha

[winged jacinth]

atlantis might have been inspired by submerged minoan ruins

[arctic talon]

was the thing they went with

[crystal forum]

the finno korean hyperwar

[winged jacinth]

they did decades ago

[arctic talon]

💀

why the fuck did they stop

[crystal forum]

it's entirely an allegory for why plato hated his era

[winged jacinth]

hyperborea has white supremacist roots iirc

[crystal forum]

like plato was the original "older music was better" kid

[heady rivet]

Its just how Ancient Greeks referred to whats likely Scandinavia and then it got out of hand really

[arctic talon]

brother hyperborea is from Herodotus

💀

and probably just scandinavia yeah

[heady rivet]

Part of the whole Aryans being Aryans invading india thing Himmler believed in

[jade holly]

Herodotus sounds familiar

[arctic talon]

he's a greek dude

who wrote a lot

of stuff

[crystal forum]

i love wacky shit like nazi moon bases because i wish it was real

[jade holly]

I know that part

[arctic talon]

Its real in Persona 2

[vagrant fox]

Having browsed some interesting 'chans I've seen way too much discussion of Hyperborea

[jade holly]

I’m just trying to remember where I heard him from

[arctic talon]

along with Nazis in Alaska

and hitler living

[jade holly]

Was he in Assassin’s Creed Odyssey?

[heady rivet]

Historian that gets his "Insane anti-Barbarian propaganda" proven correct like 5 times a year

[heady rivet]

Ye

[crystal forum]

i wish there was nazi time machines so we could see goering just appear in the white house

[jade holly]

Alongside Socrates

[heady rivet]

He is one of your boat buddies

[crystal forum]

it would be so fucking funny

[jade holly]

Wait wasn’t he the one who always got real freaky?

[winged jacinth]

doesnt believe in the nazi moon base
has never been to the moon
😏

[jade holly]

That does not narrow it down actually

[heady rivet]

He's the one that tells you about the history of an island or location as you sail past while the sailor tells you the myths focused in and around it

[crystal forum]

although fun fact the first pictures from space were taken on a V2 rocket

it was aimed straight up and fired

[arctic talon]

THEY USE HUMAN SKIN FOR THEIR QUIVERS

[heady rivet]

And he was RIGHT

[winged jacinth]

the classic atlus games were beautiful

[heady rivet]

Also Scythia had the best kush according to him

And would hotbox their tents

[winged jacinth]

i dont want to RP as a japanese highschooler me and jack frost need to kill hitler

[arctic talon]

funny that his contemporaries were like "this is literally not true"

gets proven right somehow

[winged jacinth]

with dante from the devil may cry series

[arctic talon]

you kill hitler as a like 20 something year old Japanese college student tbf

[heady rivet]

Another Herodotus W

[crystal forum]

i wish more games had killing hitler as its main goal

we dont have enough

[jade holly]

I just remember a mission in Odyssey where you see Socrates stare at a horse and you go to see the horse thief and it turns out the dude is a complete psycho lmao

[heady rivet]

Jarvis I'm low on karma

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-gif-15735703222063336145

[arctic talon]

Dante was never in persona unfortunately, bro's only in Shin Megami Tensei 3 Nocturne™

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/nordic-hyperborea-agartha-viking-gif-9573023894945166641

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/smt3-dante-smt-shin-megami-tensei-gif-18955930

[winged jacinth]

yeah but iirc you're not dating you're busy because you unleashed hell on the living world

[arctic talon]

they should just remove dating from Persona 6

it'll be funny

[winged jacinth]

i did say atlus not persona!

[arctic talon]

yeah but you kill Hitler in persona

smh

not SMT

and HItler is being empowered by the root of all evil

[winged jacinth]

persona has fully converted into a visual novel with a weak jrpg it makes you play tbh

[jade holly]

Isn’t Hitler in Lupin as well?

[winged jacinth]

case in point persona 5 is maybe the easiest jrpg i ever played

[arctic talon]

tbh its always been a visual novel

Even with persona 1 and 2

The only persona game thats hard is like

1 because of jank lol

[winged jacinth]

they still had some gameplay even if it wasnt nocturne hard

[arctic talon]

2, 3, 4 and 5 are all piss easy if you understand the system

aside from getting SMT'd

[crystal forum]

please tell me the root of all evil is a literal tree root

[wintry cloud]

Yall know what a foid is?

I dont

[spring cairn]

yea

[jade holly]

Nope

[spring cairn]

it's incel speak

[heady rivet]

Femoid

[arctic talon]

ehhhh kinda? this is the form it takes

[spring cairn]

for woman

[wintry cloud]

Oml

[crystal forum]

kinda turns me on

[heady rivet]

There's also Moid

[spring cairn]

used ironically now, which is a uh

[storm jungle]

[spring cairn]

idk how to feel about it

[jade holly]

No I won’t hear you out

[winged jacinth]

i cant remember what the challenge was but i know a guy who was playing all of the SMT games from all generations and he got stuck on forneus in nocturne for like 5 hours

[crystal forum]

AYO

i didnt know you were freaky like that dilara

[heady rivet]

Guy that says "Men and females" and his girlfriend who says "Women and moids"

[arctic talon]

Nocturne deadass has so much random BS lol

even though its my favorite SMT

the game is literally unfair at times lol

[jade holly]

That’s stupid

[spring cairn]

incel and femcel toxic romance

[heady rivet]

Silence, moid

[winged jacinth]

shoutout to the persona games for still having Mara the penis demon as a summonable unit

[arctic talon]

Mara getting censored

in P5X is the funniest shit ever

[winged jacinth]

RIP

[crystal forum]

incel and femcel romance can't exist because both people only exist to lower the sanity of their own gender

[jade holly]

Huh?

[arctic talon]

I'll just post the censored one

[winged jacinth]

after playing the original p5 i decided no more persona games

[crystal forum]

WHAT

THATS A DICK

[arctic talon]

if you want to see the uncensored one google SMT Mara

[winged jacinth]

they gave his helmet a helmet

[jade holly]

Oh that thing

[arctic talon]

or Persona Mara

lol

[heady rivet]

I'm in a tru femcel group where they keep me around as :one of the good ones"

[arctic talon]

I'm not posting the uncensored one

[jade holly]

Coward

[winged jacinth]

yeah the hat is legitimately covering a penis tip lol

[arctic talon]

unfortunately persona 3 portable was my first ATLUS game

when I was in like

middle school

[winged jacinth]

buddhist demon of lust iirc

[arctic talon]

so I'm tied to this forever

Persona 6, just a year away

(its never coming out)

[crystal forum]

weird creatures on a bed

[heady rivet]

The only good video game to look forward to is Ace Combat

[rose thorn]

People are still trashing people for playing tau in 2026????

Not like a ‘meta chaser way’

But a ‘tau are weeb commies you shouldn’t play them’

[winged jacinth]

i guess in buddhism mara would be the demon representing the Body in the Six Desires

[arctic talon]

yes

[jade holly]

TW40k for me

[arctic talon]

this will never die

lol

[jade holly]

Never played a Total War game before

[arctic talon]

Truth nuke

[heady rivet]

400 years in samsara

[jade holly]

So just a light nap got it

[jade holly]

You play tau cause you like anime style mechs

I play Tau because I fucking love Zoners

We are not the same

[heady rivet]

Not what that means but I'll take 200 off for the enthusiasm

[crystal forum]

votaan are just better tau

my hot take

[jade holly]

A grudge shall be removed the book

[arctic talon]

Votaan play nothing like Tau

that goes in the fucking book

THE DATASLATE OF GRUDGES

[shadow plover]

wildly different flavours of factions though

[crystal forum]

idc my take is purely vibes based

[jade holly]

Recorded within the Votann itself to remember every slight, every insult against the Kin

[arctic talon]

LoV share more in common with SoB then with Tau

lol

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[crystal forum]

as the "small faction with good tech" group

votaan is better done

[arctic talon]

they're not small though

lol

[jade holly]

Votann are more than Tau

[arctic talon]

The LoV literally aren't small

they aren't big either

but they're not as small scale as the Tau

[heady rivet]

This is lore chat, you expect people to know the lore?

[arctic talon]

No

[crystal forum]

idk how much space does votaan even own

[jade holly]

That’s going in the book

[arctic talon]

because Jay doesn't read/j

[heady rivet]

Trvth nvke

[jade holly]

They don’t own space, they’re a subterranean faction

[crystal forum]

thats not how it works

i hate you

[jade holly]

they’re within the planets at the Universal Core

[arctic talon]

an incomplete collection of their operations from the 9e codex

[crystal forum]

votaan mined so far down in the earth that they got an integer overflow and ended up in space

it's true

[surreal nest]

damn stellaris games never end

[crystal forum]

damn all these guys were just chilling in the core

[arctic talon]

and then here's some of their territory in the galactic core

[crystal forum]

the core must have been really cramped

[arctic talon]

don't worry about the space anomalies

they just want to give you a hug

[surreal nest]

are there giant space krakens in 40k

[crystal forum]

i wont because space anomalies are rarely elaborated on

[storm jungle]

yes

[crystal forum]

imagine what the starscape looks like in the core

must be so bright

irl i mean

and in 40k i guess

[arctic talon]

They give a few examples like “sentient black holes” and “predatory nebulae”

In the codex lol

[crystal forum]

you cant just drop sentient black hole and not elaborate on it

god i hate that

[arctic talon]

Well they did

That’s the one that has lore

[jade holly]

Well one news story just crossed my feed on YouTube that surprised me

[arctic talon]

They also have a miniaturized one contained as a hand grenade

[crystal forum]

yeah imperium has vortex grenades too

[jade holly]

Not even the first time I’ve heard of a sentient black hole

[crystal forum]

what was the first

[jade holly]

Also not the first time I would’ve fought one

Alepsis Taura in Remnant 2

A boss fight

[crystal forum]

never heard

[jade holly]

You kill it and you get gauntlets that you fire a beam of energy made from a black hole and a star

[arctic talon]

No the black hole actively seeks out more mass to consume, and can “think”

The LoV just negotiated with this one so they could shove it into a grenade

lol

And it’s fine with it

As long as it gets let out to feed

[crystal forum]

isn't that basically a ctan

[arctic talon]

No

Because it’s an actual fucking black hole

[jade holly]

You fight this

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/black-hole-gif-black-holes-space-universe-stars-gif-24154051

[crystal forum]

lore accurate black hole

[winged jacinth]

sentient black hole is such a dumb concept lol

[crystal forum]

YOU THINK

[winged jacinth]

object that can only have 3 properties
"yeah this can probably think"

[crystal forum]

next you'll tell me psykers aren't real

[winged jacinth]

hey at least thats like magical realism

[jade holly]

When you fight it though it looks more like this

[arctic talon]

It’s probably not a black hole specifically

[crystal forum]

and faster than light travel isn't possible through the realm of literal hell

[arctic talon]

It’s just what the LoV assume they are

lol

[jade holly]

I love Remnant lmao

[arctic talon]

They just call them sentient black holes

Because they act like black holes

And are fully sentient

[winged jacinth]

they'd have to be

black holes have no hair

[crystal forum]

sounds like warp creatures

[winged jacinth]

they're like electrons

[arctic talon]

They’re not warpy

Is the thing

[queen laurel]

this guy always catches me off guard

[arctic talon]

They don’t have a soul

[crystal forum]

WE KNOW YOURE SMART SEYTHI

[winged jacinth]

🙂

the sentient black hole things being cousins to the ctan makes sense

the ctan presumably have a relationship to the necron subspace stuff

[crystal forum]

there's like a million different creatures in 40k that could be the deceiver so who tf knows

[arctic talon]

Both the persona 3 velvet room attendants flirt with you if you have it in your list of personas 💀

[crystal forum]

the emperor is the deceiver

[arctic talon]

Truth nuke

[crystal forum]

horus was the deceiver

[jade holly]

I am Alpha- the Deceiver

[crystal forum]

we're all the fucking deceiver

[queen laurel]

Bro

[arctic talon]

Both Theodore and Elizabeth do it lol

[queen laurel]

They are atleast honest with it

i think

[winged jacinth]

they should make Igor the secret final boss of persona 6 then end the franchise

kill your son or nuke the velvet room

[arctic talon]

lol

Still insane to me how metaphor Refantazio has a better Lucifer fight

Then any SMT game

lol

[crystal forum]

i was wondering why you turned hawaiian

can somebody explain to me alpha legion lore

im feeling like learning how the lamest original chapter works

is omegon dead

[arctic talon]

They like espionage and armored spearhead assaults

Omegon is alive

Alpharius got his head sawn open

https://tenor.com/view/watermelon-cool-slice-eat-awesome-gif-6907584580864404028

[celest dome]

And all is falsehood but that is a falsehood

[arctic talon]

But the alpha legion basically imploded

After Alpharius died

[jade holly]

Alpha Legion are loyalist

This is a lie

[crystal forum]

yeah so they're just a shittier version of night lords

[jade holly]

Alpha Legion are traitor

This is a lie

[arctic talon]

They’re not cowards

[jade holly]

They don’t do the edgelord stuff

[arctic talon]

[crystal forum]

womp womp

[jade holly]

They’re saboteurs

infiltrators

they play the long game

[arctic talon]

You forgot the part where they love massed armored spearheads

lol

And terminator armor

People always forget this shit

[jade holly]

That’s for when they get to have fun

[arctic talon]

lol

[crystal forum]

so they're like if raven guard used terminators

[arctic talon]

The alpha legion as a whole prolly have some of the most terminator armor

Of the traitor legions

[jade holly]

I like to imagine they send the spearhead in after planting spies into other legions to weaken them

[arctic talon]

But it’s all split up between dif groups

[heady rivet]

Alpha Legion being both loyalist and traitor is genuinely the funnest part of the HH whackiness

[arctic talon]

Doctrinally no, when they’re doing an armored spearhead there is no more subtlety lol

[crystal forum]

alpha legion always seemed to me like GW had 17 legions and needed to quickly invent an 18th for a round number

[arctic talon]

It’s either more subtle shit

[crystal forum]

like it's such a weird legion

[arctic talon]

Or all out assault

[jade holly]

Basically if you see an AL spearhead coming your way, you’ve already been infiltrated 50 years ago

[arctic talon]

They’re very w/e

Imo

I get why people like them

They do sneaky shit

[crystal forum]

their paint job is cool

arguably the most detailed paint job of the legions

since you got scales and shit

[arctic talon]

the scales are sculpted

on the armor

[heady rivet]

NL you gotta paint the lightning in

[crystal forum]

it's still a neat shade of

blue?

turquoise?

[arctic talon]

teal?

they used to be blue

like really blue

lol

[crystal forum]

hey wolf

[crystal forum]

do you know what ultramarine means

[arctic talon]

blue

[crystal forum]

beyond the sea

ultra marine

because greeks imported the dye

[winged jacinth]

the imperium should study how the ultramarines manage to fight in 10,000 simultaneous battles at company strength with only 10 companies

if they can figure that out they'll win it all

[crystal forum]

why doesnt the imperium just make everybody unto ultramarines are they stupid

[misty vector]

Misplaced paperwork, they have more than 1000

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

Fuck that got me

[crystal forum]

space marines losing like 80% of their infantry every single battle yet never stopping to recoup their losses

[jade holly]

Guilliman clearly just has way more than 2k points of Marines in strategic reserves obviously smh

TO, ban Guilliman for cheating

[winged jacinth]

his own damn codex...

[crystal forum]

gman himself not following the codex would be the funniest thing

like even he hates it

[winged jacinth]

"1000 marines what the fuck was i thinking"

[jade holly]

Look at the ever growing size of Necrons, Orks, CSM and Tau

Maybe 1000 only isn’t a good idea

[winged jacinth]

just make more chapters (that dont interoperate or communicate in any way)

[crystal forum]

i think we all know that 1000 is just a pathetic amount of troops to do any kind of war in the setting

[jade holly]

“Just add more lanes to the highway” ahh response

[winged jacinth]

i get that they wanted to avoid the traitor legion problem but instead they just have a trillion chapters they cant watch for heresy lol

[crystal forum]

and it prob just sounded like a cool number

for whoever wrote that in

[jade holly]

Not even irl wars were fought with just 1,000 troops

[crystal forum]

im pretty sure there's more than 1000 people in the US delta force alone lol

like even for special forces it's a tiny number

[winged jacinth]

1000 would make sense if marines always fielded at chapter strength in their intended role as tactical assault troops but it still doesnt make sense as an organizational size lol

[arctic talon]

GW is going to expand chapters to 10,000 max within my lifetime

I know it

Lol

[winged jacinth]

instead theres a war with 1 million guardsmen and they send like 50 marines

[crystal forum]

and like 40 of them die

[winged jacinth]

and the marines decide it all every time!

[jade holly]

That’s still too small lmao

[crystal forum]

but i guess when every enemy can be defeated just by teleporting ultramarines to the main base and killing the leader then it works

[arctic talon]

Marines aren’t the only force fighting ever

[crystal forum]

it even works with nids somehow

[arctic talon]

So it’s fine

Go my billions of guardsmen

Die for the poster children

[crystal forum]

SM2 cough cough

[arctic talon]

The way it happens in SM2 is stupid

The synapse doesn’t work that way

[crystal forum]

just send in 3 fucking space marines

[arctic talon]

lol

I get why the game designed it that way

But the hive lord dying into all the nids dying is literally not how that works

[jade holly]

The codex Astartes does not support this decision

But fuck it, we ball

[arctic talon]

All the non synapse nids would go feral

[crystal forum]

i think the game clearly only had nids because of 10th edition marketing

[rigid dune]

Is there a lore reason why hive scum just can't stick the stim into another person?

[crystal forum]

like it could have just been orks

in fact im sure they wanted orks

[winged jacinth]

drug addict

[arctic talon]

And the other synapse nids would reconnect them

[shadow plover]

greedy

[arctic talon]

Would you let a random crack addict inject you with their secret mix

If your answer is no

[crystal forum]

dirty syringes can transmit AIDS

[arctic talon]

There you have it

[rose thorn]

Aw no kitbashes using the Titus kit on warcom

[jade holly]

I have been told I shouldn’t answer this

[arctic talon]

Yeah the on parade stuff is always just paint schemes

Like with the night bringer

I liked the meat nightbringer

[winged jacinth]

in 40k we call it Nurgles Autoimmune Pestilence

[crystal forum]

space aids

[jade holly]

NAP

[winged jacinth]

treated with incense

[jade holly]

Take a NAP

[rose thorn]

The gay bringer!

[crystal forum]

marble fade c'tan

my brain is so cooked from cs2

[storm jungle]

Why would you share your supplies with another guy

especially as a crack addict

[rigid dune]

Im just saying, if the situation requires it. It would be fun to see what would happen if you would stick the ogryn with it instead of certain death

[storm jungle]

Gameplay

[arctic talon]

I want to make a guard army with the most egoistical asshole of a general ever

[storm jungle]

I love how BL makes the effort of trying to show the Guard has "good people" in it when these people are literally the Imperial Japanese Army on crack

"muh relatable humans"

[arctic talon]

I want to base them on MacArthur from Chinese propaganda movies

[storm jungle]

YES lmao

those are so good

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/war-wwii-world-war-2-ww2-korean-war-gif-15967808105451073784

[storm jungle]

I love how much people hate these movies as if the west hasnt made a literal EMPIRE of propaganda war movies

[arctic talon]

Nah the movies are funny as fuck lol

They’re propaganda but who gives a shit

99% of war movies

Are propaganda

[storm jungle]

Again, same as any hollywood movie

[arctic talon]

There’s like

Almost no war movie that isn’t propaganda in some manner

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hello-chat-korean-war-macarthur-the-battle-at-lake-changjin-gif-16436274735539533878

[storm jungle]

I also love the whole "Where do they even get these american actors"

like-

[jade holly]

“Extermanatus the heretics Commissar”

“No”

“Dude, Extermanatus them”

“No”

“You’re no fun”

[storm jungle]

yall do realise most actors dont give a shit right

and are just here to get paid?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

lmao

[arctic talon]

It’s like

Not a hard gig

Lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah ask it to like any japanese or german people they hire to play Axis in WW2 movies

or like muslims as terrorists in films

lol

[arctic talon]

Get that bag

[storm jungle]

^

Just shoot your scene and get your couple of bucks

[jade holly]

When we getting Top Gun in 40K

[storm jungle]

Already have

theres like 4-5 plane novels in 40k that are just Top Gun lol

[jade holly]

Now what about Top gear

[heady rivet]

All this Marine talk when 99% of their deployments are warping in, murdering everything within a 10 mile radius and leaving with nothing exciting and no damage worse than scratched paint on the armor and it all happens in the background

We only see the notable shit

[arctic talon]

For orks

[heady rivet]

The answer is they get Russians and Europeans that do shitty American accents but the Chinese audience doesnt notice because whens the last time an American audience was like "Hey this Iraqi terrorist speaks Egyptian Arabic!"

[jade holly]

Now Jermy WargSon is out here putting da shiniest bitz on ‘iz new Snazzwagon

[storm jungle]

Nah theres americans out there who take these jobs while living in places like china

[jade holly]

Me Smartz scares me I fink

[storm jungle]

its like on literal interviews, "I just want the money lmao"

[heady rivet]

North Korea has two White guys born from a defector and his kidnapped wife

And one of them just does movies

[storm jungle]

yeah but that movie is also peak

lets goooo

[arctic talon]

It’s usually Australians

[vagrant fox]

god I wish I had a white monkey job in China. Just gotta be white and stand around

[arctic talon]

For Chinese white actors

who speak English

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-money-rich-gif-26085286

[jade holly]

Smh no love for my Ork Top Gear joke

[arctic talon]

The community has made so many

I’m immune to them

[jade holly]

I remember seeing a series on YouTube of the top Gear guys in dark souls

[storm jungle]

anyone that does Ork-Speak will be sent to Mr Electric's office and banned

🫡

[crystal forum]

wtf even is a generalissimo

[jade holly]

I fink ‘derefore I Iz

[crystal forum]

i hate that word

[storm jungle]

❌

[jade holly]

Rats

[crystal forum]

it's like an italian trying to speak english

[jade holly]

Foiled again

[storm jungle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalissimo

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/blee-raspberries吐舌頭stick-out-tongue-gif-11966212

[heady rivet]

Shut the fuck up gringo

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-cat-funny-cat-meme-cute-gif-4770784610413068186

[crystal forum]

generalissimus

[crystal forum]

so it's a fake ass dictator position

[arctic talon]

Yes

[storm jungle]

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/mao-zedong-hello-chat-mao-gif-22461031

Would be a shame if someone marched into that camp

[crystal forum]

young mao got me acting unwise

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/chiang-gif-22385832

[jade holly]

This implies the existence of General-forte

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-mao-goodbye-chat-gif-22718979

[crystal forum]

gotta love how mao just embrace baldhood

[heady rivet]

if I was a Chinese peasant I would have been his TOP guy

[crystal forum]

and made it a focal point of his haircut

mao's hair just shows off his baldness

the sheer convidence

[rose thorn]

If you all were to get into a ww2 tabletop game what irl nation would you get?

[arctic talon]

I already have US army/marines for bolt action lol

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[heady rivet]

The beautiful nation of Switzerland

[rose thorn]

I’d like to get India

[vagrant fox]

I think Bolt Action has the French, so probably them

[arctic talon]

Remember, if someone is running SS or normal Nazis in a WW2 game. They’re probably not a Nazi

[rose thorn]

What’s it called in bolt action, the something something British untied something

[arctic talon]

If they’re running Afrika Corps

Gotta keep an eye out

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[crystal forum]

soviet union of course

[surreal nest]

china

[crystal forum]

because i love soviet tanks

[heady rivet]

I'm running that one SS unit that was 3 British guys that sat around and did nothing ever

[winged jacinth]

why would you do this when you can hire rob schneider

[crystal forum]

and i love winter camo

specifically early war stalingrad period soviet union

[arctic talon]

Bolt action has Hitler youth in it

[crystal forum]

i like their equipment

[arctic talon]

You can run them on the table

[heady rivet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Free_Corps "At no time did it reach more than 27 men in strength."

[arctic talon]

And they get an upgrade

Which is bikes

As in like

Normal ass bikes

[winged jacinth]

i'd play the nazis but i'd intentionally lose every time

[arctic talon]

💀

[arctic talon]

LOL

[winged jacinth]

thats what we call "praxis"

[crystal forum]

bike units have existed in history

[arctic talon]

Yeah but it’s for a bunch of kids

[crystal forum]

dont shit on fast cheap transport

[heady rivet]

Guy who is suspiciously good at winning as Germany

[surreal nest]

i dont get bolt action fans, are the rules good or what?

[arctic talon]

Yes

lol

The minis do look like shit tho

The rules are good

And fun

[crystal forum]

it's like the only other big war game that isn't owned by GW

[arctic talon]

And unironically well balanced

They don’t have an ally or axis bias

Like a lot of ww2 wargames

[winged jacinth]

hardcore roleplay (being an incompetent general)

[surreal nest]

just looks boring to me but ill read the rules

[arctic talon]

Take meth

[crystal forum]

it's WW2

[heady rivet]

Glorious Stalinium

[arctic talon]

Before every bolt action game

As Nazis

[heady rivet]

Already there, whats next

[crystal forum]

what else do you expect but WW2 wargame

[surreal nest]

big like commerical or

[winged jacinth]

WE'RE BRINGING BACK PANZERSCHOCOLADE

[surreal nest]

i know millions of very popular agonistic games

[winged jacinth]

the only good nazi invention

[crystal forum]

amount of people playing it but i dont know anything

i just hear of it more than others

[arctic talon]

It’s the biggest historical

[surreal nest]

it would be funny if bolt action had less nazi fans than 40k

[arctic talon]

Still behind battletech and all the warhammers

But still

[surreal nest]

but its also probably true

[heady rivet]

Me when I dont known anything about literally any other wargame

[arctic talon]

It’s got more % wise

lol

[hollow lantern]

germany is probably the most popular ba army ime

[crystal forum]

like in most WW2 games

[jade holly]

What time period is Bolt Action?

Oh it’s WW2

[crystal forum]

fuck you

[hollow lantern]

its a ww2 game

guess

[arctic talon]

Germany is def the most popular army line lol

[heady rivet]

Ancient Rome

[arctic talon]

then its prolly like

Britain

[jade holly]

I just peeked in didn’t get all the context clues

[hollow lantern]

warlord has one of those actually

[arctic talon]

No one likes the minor axis powers or allied powers

lol

[jade holly]

Are the Smoking Snakes in BA at all?

[hollow lantern]

tbf unless theyre finland they kinda suck

[winged jacinth]

minor powers are for paradox game challenge runs

[crystal forum]

germany suffers from pop history portraying it as the most powerful army which means it has more fans in games

also nazis

[arctic talon]

minor allied powers are

fineish

China isn't bad

[hollow lantern]

idk i play america

[arctic talon]

But yeah FInland is the only good one lol

[surreal nest]

does bolt action even have china as a faction

[arctic talon]

same

[crystal forum]

finnish? but they're axis

[arctic talon]

yes

[hollow lantern]

yes

[crystal forum]

trollface

[surreal nest]

im surprised

[hollow lantern]

you can run the pacific front

[arctic talon]

why are you surprised

[hollow lantern]

like all aspects of it iirc

[winged jacinth]

Japan vs China match
have to add special war crime phase

[jade holly]

Is The Soviet Union popular for it at all

[crystal forum]

how many WW2 games include china

[heady rivet]

When the WW2 game has one of the major powers of the war:

[crystal forum]

not that many wolf

[surreal nest]

because chinese represenation is scarce

[crystal forum]

not that many

[jade holly]

I’m wondering if they got the Night Witches

[hollow lantern]

partisans are unironically really fun tbh

[arctic talon]

though for China you do need to do some kitbashing

using german/american/chinese kits

for some stuff

there's also the korea war supplement

[crystal forum]

playing as romania lmao

[arctic talon]

so if you wana do PLA stuff

its a lot easier

[rose thorn]

I was thinking China too tbh

[crystal forum]

like a shittier italy faction

[surreal nest]

oh so in other words the major power of the war isnt as majorly supported as every other faction which is why I asked

[hollow lantern]

italy is pretty fun for a minor faction tbh

[surreal nest]

scratching head thats so weird

im scratching my head thats so weird!

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/mao-zedong-hello-chat-mao-gif-22461031

[rose thorn]

Oh Poland or China

[arctic talon]

they're supported better then Italy lmao

[crystal forum]

poland and partisans being a different faction?

[arctic talon]

I'm not even joking

[fervent geode]

Hi NRA here

WW2?

[arctic talon]

Italy does not have a complete lineup of stuff

lol

China does

even if its PLA stuff primarily

[crystal forum]

who wants to play as italy in a wargame anyways

[fervent geode]

zamn

[hollow lantern]

i liked playing free italy sometimes tbh

[rose thorn]

https://warlord-community.warlordgames.com/bolt-action-army-list-downloads/

Here’s all the bolt action armies

[arctic talon]

Ultimately you have to do a lot of kitbashing lol

for bolt action

for any of the factions that aren't called

Germany or Britain

[hollow lantern]

or you can play the superior game

[arctic talon]

[hollow lantern]

konflikt 47

[arctic talon]

Flames of war?

oh

lol

Yeah Konflikt 47 is a thing

[crystal forum]

the good news is militaries used such similar equipment that it isnt even that hard for WW2

[rose thorn]

Nvm thsi is missing the big ones

[arctic talon]

yeah

Like

[vagrant fox]

I would if it was a WW1 one and it was all 12 battles for the Isonzo

[crystal forum]

like you can do a canadian army just by repainting some british

[hollow lantern]

tbh there are absolutely 3rd party models of any BA army you want

[arctic talon]

yeah

[shadow plover]

Eeehh, more so forced co-belligerents with the germans against the ussr

[arctic talon]

its a historical

[crystal forum]

and china is just like all countries

[hollow lantern]

theyre normally better sculpts than warlords too

[arctic talon]

Yeah warlords sculpts are

[hollow lantern]

like dont buy warlord tanks

[arctic talon]

how do I put this

[surreal nest]

whats the scale for bolt action

[crystal forum]

HAHAHA trollfaced

[arctic talon]

not good

[surreal nest]

28m?

[fervent geode]

Luigi Cardonamaxxing

[hollow lantern]

ye

28mm

[surreal nest]

interesting

[arctic talon]

28 or 26mm

I forgor which one

[surreal nest]

thats a cool scale

[arctic talon]

ultimately since its a historical you just pick the prettiest model range you can find

LOL

[surreal nest]

i cant get over the buttfuck hideous models

[hollow lantern]

perry has some great minis for ww2 stuff

[crystal forum]

dont worry i have too much knowledge about the winter war and continuation war because it's possibly one of the funniest parts of WW2

[surreal nest]

perry miniatures are so perfect and beautiful

i got their hundred year war ones

[hollow lantern]

iirc BA has scenarios for both of those

[crystal forum]

small country beats up major superpower

using SNOW

AND SKI

[fervent geode]

China having mainly PLA stuff is a little odd but if US and Germany have full lines NRA kitbashing shouldnt be to hard

[vagrant fox]

The next one will be a breakthrough I swear it on my mommas mia

[fervent geode]

trust me 12th time's the charm

[surreal nest]

damn its like 30 bucks for 42 perry miniatures

so cool

[hollow lantern]

perry has amazing sculpts too

[crystal forum]

im guessing a chinese army is just taking all major power models and banging them together

[arctic talon]

prettiest warlord sculpt

[surreal nest]

so is bolt action model based or unit based

[hollow lantern]

would highly reccomend their stuff

[arctic talon]

they have their own stuff

but for vehicles yeah

its Imperial Japan/Soviet/US vehicles

alongside some like

domestic vehicles

but not tanks

[crystal forum]

bruh that stuff is like 80% stolen designs lol

[shadow plover]

then the other co-belligerent force is forced to leave and burns half of Lapland

[fervent geode]

it would be a kitbash of french, soviet, american and german

we had alot of help

there were some domestic productions from local arsenals

[hollow lantern]

individual models in a unit have seperate rules to their unit if thats what you mean. like a squad has a NCO/riflemen/machine gunners/ etc normally. some armies have squads mostly composed of a unit type tho.

[fervent geode]

but yeah its mainly ripped off stuff

[crystal forum]

imagine being issued some weird ass interwar gun with a weird cartridge and having to fight on the front with people who all use different calibers

[surreal nest]

yeah thats what i pretty much meant. That's cool

[fervent geode]

it was kinda ass

[surreal nest]

im gonna watch some vids now and pray to god i dont get into another wargame

[fervent geode]

early on in the war the best divisions were the german trained ones (basically kmt wehrmacht)

[hollow lantern]

snipers get to target individuals inside of a unit, its pretty cool

always run a sniper

thats my BA advice

[arctic talon]

iirc China for tanks gets like

the Stuart, the stolen Japanese tank

and the uh

Panzer 1?

[hollow lantern]

do not run tanks, thats my other BA advice lmfao

[crystal forum]

finland should take back the land it lost during the continuation war treaty ngl

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah tanks are

not good in BA lol

[crystal forum]

now that russia is occupied

[hollow lantern]

very few are worth their points

[arctic talon]

I love snipers in bolt action

[fervent geode]

Panzer 1

italian tanketts

[arctic talon]

Do they get tanketts in bolt action?

genuine question lol

[shadow plover]

I mean I guess but what it's worth at this point

[fervent geode]

NRA actually had some soviet issued t26s and bt5s

[hollow lantern]

american snipers specifically are one of my favorite units

[arctic talon]

truth nuke

[fervent geode]

no idea lmao

[arctic talon]

I kind of want to play with the Chinese rules

in bolt action

[surreal nest]

the shooting in bolt action looks a lot more tactical than 40k

[hollow lantern]

i love that they get smgs

[crystal forum]

all the fins who were born and died there and are still buried there

[hollow lantern]

theyll win close combat pretty often cause of it

[fervent geode]

i mean im talking nra, pla was alot more soviet stuff and stolen japanese stuff

less tanks too

[crystal forum]

i want to see a chinese vs japanese game in bolt action

that legit sounds fun

[fervent geode]

very fun

war crimes and all

[vagrant fox]

No T-26? I hate that thing. Then again I think they had double digits amount of the things

[crystal forum]

i mean without those lmao

[hollow lantern]

japanese unbeatable 150 stick man army go

[crystal forum]

japan's tanks actually being useful

because china had none

[shadow plover]

I guess but the land itself is quite poor

[fervent geode]

they had t26 bt5s

[arctic talon]

the PLA in Bolt action are like

very weird lol

they're more like the partisan stuff

[hollow lantern]

bolt action is a fun game ngl

very easy to get into

[arctic talon]

the nationalists are like

[crystal forum]

omg t-26 mentioned!!!!