#40k-lore-chat

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crisp heath
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I think the solution will be "warp stuff because he's a mutated raptorae"

outer wave
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Ooof

arctic talon
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Oh if they’re a warp talon or raptor it’s easy as shit lol

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They get way weirder esoteric shit

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You can just say their pack has been mutated due to blessings by the raptor god

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lol

storm jungle
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Krieg

  • Dead Men Walking
  • Krieg

Cadia

  • Fall of Cadia
  • Creed: Ashes of Cadia
  • Steel Tread
  • Cadian Blood
crisp heath
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Now I need research in how weird I can make them

arctic talon
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Raptors are fun

crisp heath
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My objective is for this guy to be basically Starscream but he at least doesn't want to usurp my other OC every single second

arctic talon
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They’re their own weird sub cult

storm jungle
arctic talon
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Who worship their own obscure minor chaos god

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Raptor cults are so fun lol

crisp heath
arctic talon
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The Raptor god is a fun bit of lore that I hope doesn’t get too much elaboration

crisp heath
arctic talon
opaque coyote
arctic talon
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They’re extremely weird

rose thorn
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Speak of the devil

arctic talon
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They worship their own God, are extremely insular

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And have their own odd mutations

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Also their God doesn’t mind sharing

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So Raptor cult members can occasionally have other god marks

crisp heath
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They sound chill asf

arctic talon
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Well

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They’re also usually batshit insane

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lol

crisp heath
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True true

arctic talon
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Warptalons especially

crisp heath
queen laurel
arctic talon
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Some warptalons get “blessed” enough to literally slip into the warp

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Momentarily

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This is obviously very bad for their brain

arctic talon
queen laurel
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Damn

arctic talon
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Raptors more then any other CSM thrive on terror and “the hunt”

rose thorn
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Oh when did cult of the spiral dawn get an audiobook?

opaque coyote
# crisp heath They sound chill asf

You basically become a cool lizard man with cool spikes and shit.

You become batshit insane but that also goes with like

Literally every Chaos god ever.

Only real downside is that you'll probably never become a Daemon prince. But tbf the chances of that are like 0.00001%

arctic talon
crisp heath
rose thorn
arctic talon
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They literally tear the veil open somehow

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Before it seals itself shut behind them

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Also the other issue of, sometimes they literally don’t come back

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lol

crisp heath
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Oh so they theoretically can pretty much just use their hands to make a "tearing" handmovement and it opens a warp portal

arctic talon
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It doesn’t elaborate on how it’s torn open

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Let’s you imagine it lol

crisp heath
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I like the idea of them physically being able to grab reality and force it open

arctic talon
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Thank you Kibellah

rose thorn
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Sigmund, which is the same length, is only 18 usd

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And the Martyrs tomb, which is the same price, is twice as long

crisp heath
tough haven
storm jungle
young pecan
jade holly
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Just got off Cosmic Rewind, in line for it again KEKW_ogryn

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Third time I’m riding it today

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It’s just so damn fun

heady rivet
crisp heath
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I saw a video that said something insane and I gotta verify if this is true
It makes sense in concept and I already imagined this was the case but still

heady rivet
crisp heath
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Fair

storm jungle
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also stop watching slop Shorts and read the lexicanum

valid needle
languid meadow
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why does he look like Matt Walsh

celest dome
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The Chaos Gods are just interloper in the Warp

young pecan
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Biggest warp entity in existence is just a fat fuck whose mouth is so big other things just go into it so he constantly grows

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That's my headcanon

crisp heath
storm jungle
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😔 violence

crisp heath
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Tell my star wars figures and my blood angel intercessor i love them

young pecan
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What is the most taint-resilient person we've seen in lore so far?

storm jungle
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Basically every single space marine character lol

young pecan
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I could have worded that better

young pecan
storm jungle
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it even gets funnier when you get to gary stues like titus

crisp heath
young pecan
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Other than leftnutaint titus

storm jungle
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whos corruption resistant because uhhh we still dont know lol

young pecan
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Yeah

storm jungle
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thanks writers

crisp heath
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Forgor his name

young pecan
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He has built diffium in his blood ofc

crisp heath
young pecan
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In terms of compelling characters

crisp heath
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named ultramarine

crisp heath
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Fuck meee

young pecan
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So humans or other races, who have been resistant

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Who dun it best?

celest dome
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Tyranids

young pecan
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You know what I mean angry_face

crisp heath
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Erm

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Orks

celest dome
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Nah they can become.mutated by chaos

crisp heath
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Yeah but im not sure they can worship chaos

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Or they can?

celest dome
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Blanks

crisp heath
celest dome
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Any Blanks would be the best bet

crisp heath
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They were literally built to counter it

celest dome
crisp heath
celest dome
young pecan
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Okay I should say that I don't mean who has the best hardware, because blanks and other things that are warp-resistant or straight up immune aren't really impressive when they resist the warp

crisp heath
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Yeah not my best comparison

celest dome
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Or that Queen that just ate 3 Keeper of Secret so Slaanesh made her a DP

young pecan
celest dome
young pecan
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He just really likes pretending he's not xd

storm jungle
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Yeah basically

celest dome
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Many Slave to Darkness delude themselves into not being Slaves

storm jungle
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the big reveal at the end of his trilogy is that hes just a hypocrite and fully embraces Slaanesh somewhat

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also that yeah

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Bile is delusional, its why its kinda funny when people act like hes some doubtless gigachad

young pecan
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He's not wrong in that daemons are Technically* not Real*

celest dome
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God I need a 1h hammer weapon in DT 🙏

young pecan
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But the warp is real and daemons are made of warp so they may as well be called real

celest dome
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Deamons are real

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Though

sacred ginkgo
young pecan
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It's all semantics anyway

sacred ginkgo
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Its a 1h hammer for all intensive purposes

celest dome
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Shovel aren't as cool though

young pecan
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Typical "heh, I am only using the gifts, I am in control" mf

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Clearly someone hasn't used shovel enough

sacred ginkgo
young pecan
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Nurglings playing basketball with your soul and you have the audacity to say you're just Him

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Ooooookay buddy

daring creek
storm jungle
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they exist, therefore they are real

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its not like hes talking to fucking empty air

crisp heath
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i think the point is calling them daemons and gods empower them and instead just refer to them as xenos Hmm

spring cairn
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I love all the Fabius artworks with him wearing a fedora

raven stone
crisp heath
raven stone
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Also nobody likes that theory because it sounds like it is justifying Emperor’s actions, so I usually have to add the bog standard disclaimer of “Emps was xenocidal to begin with, this was just an additional excuse on top of that.”

crisp heath
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maybe not their legions but just the primarchs would've been enough

raven stone
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Yea definitely…he communicated really poorly with all his sons, whatever colour they eventually went

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And even the loyalist ones recognize Emps has Poor Communication Skills (TM)

young pecan
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Dude had dozens of thousands of years to understand how to talk to people

languid meadow
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Ok so like possibly MASSIVE spoilers for the next episode of fallout ||The "on next" video dropped and I think there's a shot of a pre war deathclaw? which would be the first time and a full conformation of the in universe theory that were indeed pre war||

young pecan
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He could have been such a chill therapist on the side

heady rivet
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Big E tried to contain the warp by "starving" it, not catching until it was too late that the best way to fight Chaos was with worship of him. Being worshipped in 40k actively empowers your soul

storm jungle
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its like having a breach in a dam and just duct-taping one crack of the entire damage

heady rivet
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Ironically the BEST possible thing he could have done is sell himself as a God-Emperor

storm jungle
crisp heath
young pecan
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Can we get Powerwolf x God Emperor fanart

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Please see the vision

heady rivet
raven stone
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Also in general, Emperor’s Atheism is very much a criticism of (somewhat specifically) American Atheism I feel. As in, science cannot answer humanity’s emotional and spiritual needs (which we are somewhat told is what Imperial Truth is - Emps wanted humans to embrace all the learning and science to advance the species, which he thinks can mean people are automatically happy 24/7 without thinking about spiritual or emotional questions which are a hinderance to progress or “progress”).

heady rivet
raven stone
young pecan
raven stone
storm jungle
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its just shit writing

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yall really need to read The Last Church

storm jungle
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the Emperor's understanding of religion is literally reddit tier

storm jungle
young pecan
storm jungle
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you cant take that away from them

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its all made up but it helps them at the end of the day

young pecan
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Oh yeah I mean don't just rip it away

raven stone
young pecan
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When you feel uplifted by your church, that's just the bond of community, when you feel resolute after committing yourself, that's just the satisfaction of having found something to devote yourself to

raven stone
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I thought Warp resonant with everything that has a soul no?

heady rivet
young pecan
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It gives you a foothold which paths into things that actually help

crisp heath
raven stone
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So yea.

storm jungle
storm jungle
crisp heath
storm jungle
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accepting things the way they are can be a very dangerous thing

crisp heath
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but amusing

young pecan
young pecan
heady rivet
storm jungle
young pecan
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You think horse flies feel humble?

storm jungle
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the thing is this sect of buddhism teaches you to just take it easy and go with life

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not ignore its problems constantly

rocky gale
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Cult of the Supreme Being all the way

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Which was basically a religion based on "We acknowledge that God doesn't exist, but as humans we need God to exist so we have invented one" and it's tenants are essentially "Be good to eachother"

raven stone
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(To be fair I am not sure which exact sect I fall under anyways, but well, it’s getting late for me to comment on centrism issue lol)

storm jungle
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insert joker clip here

young pecan
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Vaguely related I didn't like the chakras thing in AtLA

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"You must let your close friend die or you are cucked from enlightenment forever"

storm jungle
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Based.

young pecan
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Why do I have to not care about things to be enlightened

raven stone
rocky gale
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They recognize the existence of the Supreme Being and the Immortality of the Soul.
They declare that the best service of the Supreme Being is the practice of man's duties.
They set among the most important of these duties the detestation of bad faith and tyranny, by punishing tyrants and traitors, by caring for the unfortunate, respecting the weak, defending the oppressed, doing unto others all the good one can, and not being unjust towards anyone.

and their virtues were Truth, Justice, Modesty, Friendship, Frugality and Fidelity

arctic talon
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more so you need to let go of your earthly attachments

rocky gale
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Unfortunetly things didn't turn out too good for the old Cult of the Supreme Being

storm jungle
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People will always find some reason to dislike each other

rocky gale
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People sort of misunderstood what the premise was and thought that it's leader was calling himself the Supreme Being and trying to make himself be worshiped as a god.

raven stone
storm jungle
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people in turkey here say syrians are at fault for everything then i see 2 of my countrymen stealing a kid's bike

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lmao

young pecan
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Unless that's actually accurate to the religion

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Which in that case that aspect of the religion is goofy

raven stone
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Let’s go back to something we can all collectively dunk on

valid needle
young pecan
raven stone
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I genuinely believe and predict non-nuclear WW3 roughly a decade from now.
Non-nuclear because everyone will not be wanting to occupy wasteland.

arctic talon
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you need to not crave or desire anything

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ect.

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Aang was in love with Katara

young pecan
arctic talon
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you cannot be in love if you want to escape Samsara

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I mean the point of buddhism is that these goals are basicially impossible to attain, you should strive for them but you don't need to like

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go all in on it

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unless ur a monk

raven stone
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It’s chill like that.

arctic talon
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in which that case

young pecan
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Oh I'm still not advocating for blowing up religions don't worry

arctic talon
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yeah you're gona be persuing that shit lol

young pecan
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Well, some of them

arctic talon
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Buddhism somthing that explictly says not to shove it down peoples throats

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has religous extremists

young pecan
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But chill ones that actually function relatively healthily is great Nice

arctic talon
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💀

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which is like

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deranged

heady rivet
raven stone
raven stone
young pecan
# young pecan Well, some of them

I'm not going to name names but I think it's not a very good foundation to make your primary role model a prophet who married a dozen children

heady rivet
raven stone
# heady rivet I think you're just an insane doomer man

Eh, not really? I admit even if I do believe what I do, I am not exactly thinking it is fully inevitable (and if events eventually prove me wrong all the better :p)
but yea it’s just the trend line that has me believing it for now.

young pecan
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All it takes is a deranged powerful man on his deathbed who wants to take the world down with him, or settle a gripe, and just a couple of Yes Men

raven stone
young pecan
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That's all it takes stare

raven stone
# young pecan That's all it takes <:stare:1080224883469991966>

Putin is the most likely candidate hovering around that. Xi…the last I heard he is still healthy, and the CCP (being what it is, oddly enough) will actually be having a field day if someone else can snatch Xi’s position.
(it should be noted the CCP is just a modernised Chinese dynastic court. Meaning yes, if the top guy goes crazy, the supposed Yes Men will turn into power-grabbing No Men).

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Putin, on the other hand…he has genuine Yes Men around him.

young pecan
young pecan
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The orphan blood transfusions will only keep him breathing for so long /j

heady rivet
# raven stone Eh, not really? I admit even if I do believe what I do, I am not exactly thinkin...

There is no trend for this, none whatsoever. If you truly believe that anyone is going to randomly decide "Eh, time to collapse all society to nobodys benefit, LEAST of all my own" and then at least several thousands of people agree to that you need to check into a hospital lmao. No world leader is just insane. Like it or not, things and people have a reason. Trump, Putin, or Xi have 0 interest in ending the world.

And if anyone in this chat genuinely believe the world would let China touch Taiwan you are either grossly misinformed or blind. Especially TRUMP of all people. And nobody can "give" Putin Ukraine because Putin cant even take it. He took this long to get to the point he is now (slower pace than WW1) fighting a country that didnt have a fuckin military 12 years ago and gets given mothballed shit from the 80s

In conclusion you all need to touch grass and stop being doomers about your madeup scenarios

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I know life is a lot easier when you live in fantasy lands where the bad guys are just crazy but

raven stone
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And even if we are wrong, right - I don’t know, it seems you are a bit too…angry…about how we might be wrong.

heady rivet
raven stone
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I mean, I still live my job without worrying about it.

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It’s the emotion, not the posting, that makes a doomed attitude.
I am merely speculating here. Obviously I am still going to live my life.

storm jungle
storm jungle
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I was confused because its like someone here is caps-lock shouting about how nuclear armageddon is coming

young pecan
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I didn't say it was likely, I just said that was all it takes

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Am I wrong

raven stone
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Speculation of bad things =/= doomer if the poster isn’t actually emotionally worried is the key point.

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And I am not worried about it actually happening because I can’t worry about it anyways, still gotta live life.

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Come what may.

storm jungle
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At the end of the day some world leaders do stupid things.

If I told people here Russia would be invading Ukraine or the US would kidnap Venezuela's president everyone would call me an idiot theorist lol

heady rivet
heady rivet
heady rivet
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They arent just "fuck it"

storm jungle
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if i said it before this all happened id get the complete opposite reaction lol

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"erm theres no reason for this to happen" etc

raven stone
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Hindsight is perfect 20/20 ye.

storm jungle
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^

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People always assume the opposite until it finally happens.

raven stone
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You tell anyone in 2024 Trump with kidnap Venezuelan President.
By your logic that is doomer talk.

storm jungle
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Nobody a few months ago was ever talking about Venezuela being a "narco-state that needs raiding"

young pecan
heady rivet
storm jungle
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We basically at the end of the day live in strange times.

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Its prob only gonna get weirder from here lol

raven stone
young pecan
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You couldn't have convinced 2024 me that it was a realistic toss-up between whether Trump gave oral sex to Bill Clinton or to a horse

plush mason
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if it even was a kidnapping, his own cabanit might have went to the US to help stage a coup

heady rivet
storm jungle
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I mean it would be.

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America has barely ever had a presence in South America for decades.

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unless we count all the CIA plants lol

young pecan
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Are the people in power not selfish

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Still not likely but it's possible

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Bad faith optimism is just as bad as hopeless doomerism imo

raven stone
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And again, speculation of bad things should not be auto doomerism. It’s the attitude.
I mean, an actual doomer will just quit their job, find a nuclear bunker to hide in, be emotionally upset etc.
I am not doing any of that, I am still going to go about my normal life :p

and if speculating about bad things is doomer or wrong, you might as well say economists should never try to predict when the next market crash might happen, or scientists should never try to predict when the next pandemic nigh hit, because an incorrect speculation is “doomerism”

heady rivet
# young pecan The reason that I said was one of the nuclear bearers with little in the way bei...

Again, you made up a fantasy where there's some God-Emperor like loyal inner circle that will honor that wish for NO reason, a bunch of soldiers who will just go "oh okay" when history has shown that they always question or delay any launch order at all and insane people in charge of nuclear powers. You can call them insane but thats plain coping for the fact that Putin, Trump, Xi, whoever, all have very clear plans and goals and they arent waking up with a new personality every day. Its not optimism, I'm just pointing out that you're selling a movie plot as a real life potential.

These evil men have goals. Like it or not, but literally none of them are "If I cant have THE ENTIRE WORLD nobody can!"

storm jungle
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Some definitely are.

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Again, giving people too much credit

young pecan
storm jungle
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the actual masterminds are people we got no idea prob even exists

young pecan
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Of course they wouldn't say "I want to take everyone out with me"

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And do you really think tyrannical leaders are going to let people who oppose them be in important positions

heady rivet
storm jungle
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Again, knock it off

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the political superiority complex is very annoying

young pecan
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Especially when it's dunking on someone just saying what's possible kek

heady rivet
young pecan
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I think it's more likely Trump will be some dork loser overwriting pre-existing historical landmarks, like he already has, to glaze him before he dies

storm jungle
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I mean

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hes already doing that

young pecan
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Exactly

storm jungle
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Reminder that this man literally proposed painting/replacing half the buildings in central D.C with fucking golden paint and other shit

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i dread whoever puppeteers this man because id probably kill myself on day 1

young pecan
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Bruddah has interacted with too many reddit doomers and is taking their anger out on us

raven stone
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Also I see the statement about economists and scientists predicting market crashes/pandemics incorrectly as doomerism being dodged, so…I would assume that means there is a misunderstanding as to what doomerism actually is.

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Predicting possible bad things is not doomerism. Even when incorrect.

young pecan
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I doom within reason sunglesus

raven stone
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How the reader reacts to said bad prediction determines whether it is doomerism or not.

heady rivet
storm jungle
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Jesus christ man, enough lol

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why are you so upset over this nonsense

young pecan
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Is your attention span too low to do both at once

raven stone
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It’s their job to do so…

storm jungle
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They are planted by the CIA... 😔

heady rivet
storm jungle
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Anyway seriously move on from this shit

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30m of fucking arguing because someone just wanted to make an assumption

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lmao

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of all the things, i swear

heady rivet
storm jungle
plush mason
young pecan
plush mason
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both men are most likely just snakes looking to ride Trump's popularity into power mind you, but for now they are sycophants

rose thorn
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talking to my freind about pathfinder and kinda realizd something

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when are wands like

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ever cool

raven stone
plush mason
sacred ginkgo
rose thorn
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oh

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haryr potter

plush mason
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ye

rose thorn
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i only really see it looking cool in like a child hands

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since its teh size of their forearm there

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lmao

hallow saddle
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cool well now we've got this out of the way, lets talk about israel

rose thorn
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with an adult it looks like a weir dpen

hallow saddle
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💀

storm jungle
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Back to warhammer everyone 😩

sacred ginkgo
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Wands never look cool

rose thorn
sacred ginkgo
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Staves and orbs are where shit is at

heady rivet
rose thorn
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?

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cant wait for space mariens to ahve more detachments than units in my army

storm jungle
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UP

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ABOUT DETACHMENTS

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LMAO

raven stone
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It’s GW. They will produce as many detachments as they want.

rose thorn
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MY ARMY ONLY HAS LIKE 2 USABLE DETACHMENTS

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ITS MY STARCHILDREN GIVEN RIGHTTTT

hallow saddle
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i like that the necron guy is like if you take lucius the eternal's datasheet and improve literally every single thing about it 💀

raven stone
arctic talon
hallow saddle
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Losercius taking a huge L

arctic talon
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ngl

rose thorn
arctic talon
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the new Necron dude feels like he'll be like

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really fucking points heavy

hallow saddle
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yeah true

arctic talon
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just based off of profile + abilities

rose thorn
raven stone
rose thorn
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i already ahve them, i will convert them when i get another uprgade sprue for brood brothers

raven stone
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Nice

arctic talon
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or some specific characters

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anyways AoS 4e needs more flavor smh

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GW please

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give me some meth

winged jacinth
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go to check how much that 500 worlds batallion costs
$170 Sitgryn

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the combat patrol is really expensive too 🙁 i might buy a different kill team

outer wave
rose thorn
jade holly
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My day at Disney is over

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And what a day

daring creek
jade holly
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Got my first ever ride on Rock n Roller Coaster

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Rode Guardians 3 times

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Test Track twice

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Space Mountain once

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Got on Pirates of the Caribbean

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And got a chocolate milkshake chadgryn

jade holly
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Damn what a beautiful roller coaster train

vital ginkgo
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Are there any space marine chapters based on African tribes like the zulus?

jade holly
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I heard the Celestial Lions had some African influences to them but in reality idk for sure. Could be wrong, idk much about the Celestial Lions

vital ginkgo
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I think they were just black sons of dorn not like tribal types. I could be wrong though I don't know much about them either

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Their rank structure has the most of it

vital ginkgo
arctic talon
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yes

vital ginkgo
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Oh neat

arctic talon
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Warleader: captain
Pride Leader: sgt
Pride:Squad
chaplain: death speaker
librarian:spiritwalkers
Apothocaries:Lifebinders

vital ginkgo
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Didn't know that

arctic talon
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again

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not a ton of lore

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but still

young pecan
young pecan
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A lot of boomers are just like "holy shit"

languid meadow
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Kiwi..m

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But yeah it's better they ask instead of just believing it like toddlers

jade holly
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I could touch the ceiling in some spots staregryn

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I love Space Mountain but it gave me a cramp in my leg Sitgryn

viral halo
raven stone
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Morning lore chat

crystal forum
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amazing

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im officially a grass avoider

rocky gale
daring creek
rocky gale
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Feel like the blessed blade option is kinda doodoo

shadow plover
rocky gale
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Giving up your ranged weapon option for an extra 1 AP and 1 damage on melee

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I also kinda hoped they'd be a bit more durable

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No scout, no infiltrate or other mobility based ability, not very durable and no major survivability

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Don't see them being super helpful tbh

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Feels like any melee army is going to outfight them and any ranged army is going to gun them down before they get into melee

shadow plover
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lethal hits is nice with 3 attacks each

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and making them precision is also nice

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I doubt they'll do any heavy lifting but in a correct situation they can be quite effective

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of course they're a flavour unit being anti-psykers so it kinda doesn't do much in most cases

rocky gale
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Yea like they're only really useful if you're facing Thousand Sons or Grey Knights tbh

shadow plover
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lethal hits precision is still very nice against anything not turbo tanky like a terminator captain etc

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even then ap -2 isn't too bad

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though most of those tanky characters will have an invul as well

rocky gale
#

I'm just not feeling their stats

shadow plover
#

6 attacks with the blade will most likely kill a normal MEQ character

rocky gale
#

Oh wait

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Didn't realise you rerolled hits against your quarry as well

shadow plover
#

yeah you can fish out those 6+ rolls even if you hit the roll which is very nice if the situation requires it

rocky gale
#

Actually pretty good then, basically just charge in, use your regular models as ablative wounds and then hit hard with the blessed blades

shadow plover
#

I'm not sure how miracle dice work nowadays but can't you utilize those as well for it?

rocky gale
#

Yea, they're basically a pool of pre rolled dice you can use instead of rolling

shadow plover
#

Excellent

rocky gale
#

I just need a friend to start collecting KSons so I can Ragebait them with 3 squads of Insidiants

crystal forum
#

cant think of a 40k joke i just like this video

storm jungle
#

Extra Marines?

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And rid the setting of all other factions!

#

All other factions?

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And fill it with even more space marine products!

#

More space marine products? HEY JIMMY, GIVE ME A 40K WITH NUTHIN

crystal forum
#

nuthin???

daring creek
#

Ice spice marines

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I have to read my books

#

Why do I keep flipflopping between doing things and not doing things

daring creek
daring creek
valid needle
# storm jungle 👎

No but Dilara you don’t get it we need more space marines so we can delete the other factions and I never need to play tabletop anymore because we deleted everyone it would be so good you don’t get it

daring creek
#

I hope the spoce maines wack harytacks with some nice big o power shovels!!!!

valid needle
#

Chaos Enjoyers and Imperium Enjoyers both mogging everytime space marines get 10 boxes and xenos get 1.

daring creek
#

Krieg marines

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Yes...

valid needle
#

Alright that’s enough discord for today

daring creek
#

No come back

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Keep chatting on discord!!!

valid needle
#

I’m not a big fan of krieg

#

Steel Legion are just better krieg

daring creek
#

They don't have shovels

valid needle
#

That’s what makes them better

daring creek
#

Shoebill <3

raven stone
rose thorn
#

They gave space marines a deep strike and a cross fire detachment

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I cannot

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Fucking believe it

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They gave space marines fucking cross fire

raven stone
#

...remind me who originally had cross fire 😅

shadow plover
#

it's not quite as powerful as crossfire was but yeah

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GSC

raven stone
#

ROFLMAO

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GW really be determined to make Marines masters of all warfare like in lore...

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Mary Sue levels off the charts now

shadow plover
#

this one's basically just if you hit a target with one battleline unit, another battleline will hit it easier

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crossfire was almost any units and you hit and wounded easier

rose thorn
#

And they gave space marines host of ascension, before the army got utterly reworked to hell

shadow plover
#

Deepstrike list is cool and thematic though

raven stone
#

Good throne they allow deep striking Land Raiders too

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Yea Drop Pod list is the mostly thematic and alright addition

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But they allow vehicles to deep strike outright which to be fair Thunderhawk Carriers are a thing

rose thorn
#

Tbf we get sustain hits and ignore cover

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And they get reroll hit rolls of one

raven stone
#

Might be more accurate to say GW is tuning Marines to be the super soup beginner's faction

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Then based on what newcomers like

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They pick a faction with the even more specialized version of it

rose thorn
#

No fucking way

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They gave space marines

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Redeploy

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We don’t even have redeploying anymore

raven stone
#

....yea ok

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That is GW going overboard on Marines love lol

rose thorn
#

Cannot believe they gave space marines GSC’s old tricks

rocky gale
#

Deep strikes 30 heavy intercessors in your backline

valid needle
#

I’ve seen so many shovel memes I’m wishing for the day some xenos exterminate the entire krieg and they cease to exist💀

rose thorn
#

WHO IS BUYING THESE

raven stone
crystal forum
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i wish steel legion was still cared about. orks and guard go so well together

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both are ridiculous over the top factions with an over reliance on numbers and big industrial machines

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also just the sheer size difference between an ork and a guardsman is hilarious. space marines fighting orks is boring because they're both huge but a tiny guy trying to bayonet rush an 8 foot tall greenskin is peak 40k

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iconic

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HOLD THE FUCKING LINE

radiant lance
#

Is it bad that Rupert Girlyman is my favorite primarch

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I just really fucking love logistics irl

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And I just want to get shit done
Fuck all of the fru-fru bullshit

celest dome
#

Ultramarine a fairly popular

radiant lance
#

Yeah but now I'm just a basic bitch

celest dome
#

And there is no shame to have a favourite character even if it is a quite popular one

radiant lance
#

I am a natural maverick and abhor just being a basic bitch

crystal forum
#

how can you like logistics while also not liking procedures

radiant lance
#

I'm not sure when I mentioned procedures

crystal forum
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i was getting the impression

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from the getting shit done part

radiant lance
#

Procedures are useful until they fail their objective
I think Gorillaman also embodies this like with how he tried to switch imperial fleet doctrine from big ships to a lot of small ships

crystal forum
#

girlyman making all chapters follow his bullshit codex rules for literally no reason

radiant lance
#

I mean he had a good set of reasons
I have no issue with creating procedures and rules provided they have purpose

#

Following procedures and rules for ineffective purposes and not meeting goals is different

crystal forum
#

were his reasons for the codex ever really good though

#

as if the loyal chapters would turn traitor after fighting a whole civil war on the emp side

radiant lance
#

Not having Heresy 2.0 and breaking the imperium as well as tactical things like Marines being focused on singular roles seems like good purposes

crystal forum
#

again heresy 2.0 is just a bullshit reason

#

he just ended up pissing off his loyal brothers

radiant lance
#

There were severe issues with this and inefficiencies imposed by this ridiculous chain of command breaks, but nonetheless needed

radiant lance
#

From his perspective, there is risk of this

crystal forum
#

like where does hurdygurdyman get off telling the imperial fister himself that he can't be trusted

radiant lance
#

"from my perspective the Jedi are evil"

crystal forum
#

the guy who was actually there during the siege

#

unlike bluepants

#

also he literally nearly caused the heresy 2.0 himself!!!

radiant lance
#

Chaos corruption is really way more than just "oh they hate the imperium now"

crystal forum
#

i think it was a dumb move regardless of how you hindsight it

#

also dark angels just ignored it

radiant lance
#

I really think a singular person having full control of major forces with no oversight is just ridiculous for accountability

#

Astartes chapters really have 0 accountability and oversight and we just hope the leader isn't a dick

crystal forum
#

oh also dont forget that ticklyman wanted to branch off from the imperium if things got too shitty. like he himself is less trustworthy than dorn

radiant lance
#

Secundus was entirely justified if you consider this was a measure because he had no idea if Terra fell
It's like the Byzantine empire

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If Rome/Terra fell, you still want to survive

#

Secundus immediately dissolving is exactly what should have happened

crystal forum
#

he spent time and effort preparing that crap when we all know that if terra fell then his shitty pocket empire wouldn't have lasted a century

radiant lance
#

Secundus popped into being because he had no idea if Terra fell from the massive warp storm

crystal forum
#

that's disloyalty by 40k standards

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if terra falls you fight till you fall too

#

there just isn't a concept of humanity outside of terran control

radiant lance
crystal forum
#

but without the emperor then it isn't the imperium

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and without the imperium girlyman is meaningless

radiant lance
crystal forum
#

that's how 40k works

#

im saying by the logic of the setting girlyman is still in the wrong

radiant lance
#

Yeah, and it's dumb, and I applaud Robot for breaking procedure and dogma

#

Which is really my belief of "why are we doing this shit if it doesn't have a good set of goals"

#

Gorillaman is only in the wrong if you believe "you must follow the Emperor and procedure" which is flawed in my opinion, so yeah. I like Girlyman

crystal forum
#

i find him boring. why go in a wacky setting to enjoy a character who's trying to be grounded

radiant lance
#

Yeah he's boring, but I'm not interested in flashy
I'm interested in just "get shit done"

#

He's my spirit animal for a reason

crystal forum
#

may i interest you in iron hands

#

they're like iron warriors but without the annoying fanbase and lame motives

#

and also they arent flashy like ultramarines

#

they just get shit done

radiant lance
#

I mean we're discussing chapters/legions now instead of the primarchs

crystal forum
#

yeah because fuck primarchs

radiant lance
#

I'd fuck Sanguinis

storm jungle
#

then the Gunn movie comes out and people are proven right that Superman is a great character because hes just a good person

#

dont let peoples' opinions sway you from such ideas lol

radiant lance
#

Too late. I've already ordered my Starbucks and bought a labubu

crystal forum
#

who knew that when zack snyder isn't touching something it becomes good

#

has zack snyder ever made a movie that you don't forget immediately after watching it

near wasp
storm jungle
#

because we went through an era where a lot of people hated him for being a "boring" character.

#

with the Starman meme phase and the release of the movie we went back to a way better normal period afterwards which im glad for tbh

crystal forum
#

also that's what batman is there for already. you can do so much with batman with goofy or edgy

#

anyways heroslop needs to die already

storm jungle
#

Dont let what the MCU does ruin the entire media

raven stone
#

I do think the fact that people do not believe in genuinely happy characters says more about the despondent state of the audience

jade holly
#

My day at Disney is over

raven stone
#

Rather than the happiness of the character per se

jade holly
#

I return today

#

And just in time to preorder Necrons

raven stone
#

How was the mouse land?

jade holly
#

My legs fucking hurt

#

Got a cramp on space mountain cause my legs are too damn long, went back and forth between Magic Kingdom and Epcot

#

Rode Cosmic Rewind 3 times, Test Track twice, got on Pirates, Space Mountain

#

And rode Rockn Roll for the first time ever

raven stone
#

Damn, hope the cramp got better eventually

jade holly
#

It did

#

But holy damn does walking for over 12 hours do a number to your legs the next day

raven stone
#

Oof

languid meadow
#

New episode is peak

radiant lance
#

Or some other third option

storm jungle
#

👀

rocky gale
#

Don't tell me you've got Conformity Gate mindvirus?

languid meadow
storm jungle
#

thought it was Hammer and Bolter

languid meadow
#

hammer and SNORElter

#

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jade holly
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I’m honestly excited for the Rock n Roller Coaster retheme

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This is gonna be fun

winged jacinth
#

They're making a demacia show? That seems like a terrible idea unless they made them way more interesting since i last followed league

arctic talon
arctic talon
#

It’s for the new ranked season

winged jacinth
#

"What if a whole country had the vibe of stormwind from WoW"

#

Ah

arctic talon
#

Also tbf

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Demacia did implode due to a civil war

#

And mages

#

lol

winged jacinth
#

Hey that's new

arctic talon
#

With 3 distinct groups by the last update of it

winged jacinth
#

By the time i stopped paying attention they were just figuring out how to market an ensemble cast

languid meadow
#

I only wanted the weird bone plate nose reduced but now she doesn't have the same chiseled jaw anymore

winged jacinth
#

With stuff like "maybe... lux secretly dating ezreal? Will that get the tumblrs posting?" (It was still tumblr time)

arctic talon
#

lol

winged jacinth
#

I thought that was the nox place

arctic talon
#

tbh

jade holly
#

Rip dragon woman

arctic talon
#

no

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Noxus loves magic

#

lol

winged jacinth
#

Isnt lux like the princess or some shit

#

Shes just marisa from touhou

languid meadow
#

Noxus loves when you use anything to get ahead

arctic talon
#

Lux is just part of a rich noble family

#

lol

jade holly
arctic talon
#

To an extent

#

lol

jade holly
#

Based on that one LOR cinematic?

arctic talon
#

Noxus hates slavery

#

post coup

languid meadow
winged jacinth
#

It took like 4 name changes for lux's ult not to be named master spark one way or another lol

arctic talon
#

Shyvana's new design I will judge once we get the splash art

#

lol

jade holly
#

Ofc the VGU would ruin her face

arctic talon
#

its called like final spark lol

arctic talon
#

what

jade holly
arctic talon
#

I mean

jade holly
#

same face syndrome tbh

arctic talon
#

she was way prettier pre face update

#

again

#

Splashart

#

ingame faces all kind of look shit

#

I'm ngl

winged jacinth
jade holly
#

I’m saying her face is generic now

languid meadow
#

The older version was def more dragon, the only awkward part was teh nose plate which should've been toned down imo it looked a bit weird. But I will miss her chiseled jaw

arctic talon
#

Its literally less generic then her original face

arctic talon
winged jacinth
#

There's a LOT of touhou references in league actually lol

arctic talon
#

I generally dislike using ingame models as a reference

jade holly
winged jacinth
#

Should be called Youmu's half-ghost blade

jade holly
#

Like I get it’s a human form but scales to tie it to her actual dragon form

arctic talon
#

I'm ngl lol

jade holly
#

Guess I’m just spoiled by Smite models

arctic talon
#

you are

#

you are greatly overestimating how much Riot can do with the current engine for ingame models

winged jacinth
#

You won't even look at the in game model from the front in league

arctic talon
#

And how much we can even see

#

yeah

#

the only time you'll see shyvana's face in this manner ingame is either during recall animations or emotes

jade holly
#

Isn’t that why they use a more exaggerated Squash and stretch animation too?

arctic talon
#

which are short

winged jacinth
#

The in game models are designed for you to look down on them

arctic talon
#

The perspective requires it

#

Which is why I always dislike riot showing off like

#

ingame models lol

winged jacinth
#

They got a taste of the gooner money with the kpop skins and its all downhill

jade holly
#

The biggest sin in League models has to be Kai’sa tho ngl

#

No one looks like a flawless super model coming back from what she came back from

arctic talon
# winged jacinth Hey that's new

Demacia during the later part of the Civil war has essentially 3 major factions

Pure Anti Magic Camp + put the mageseekers in power over the royal family

magic is fine + royal family loyalists

magic is fine + remove the entire noble system

arctic talon
#

lol

winged jacinth
#

I guess kitty katarina was the beginning of the end of video games in a way...

arctic talon
#

LOL

#

are we not considering they added Miss Fortune

#

who has a outfit is so bad she's had it redesigned

#

in every apperance

#

or had another outfit

daring creek
#

I see we're talking league

winged jacinth
#

Og miss fortune looked terrible lol

arctic talon
#

her current design still looks stupid

#

lol

#

well

#

not her current design in lore, but default splash art is

#

eh

winged jacinth
#

I remember for the entire time i played league people were demanding a kitty katarina rerelease

#

Im not innocent i owned battle bunny riven

arctic talon
#

you are weak

#

undisciplined

#

smh

winged jacinth
#

I used her lcs skin when that got released until i quit

arctic talon
#

when did you quit lol

winged jacinth
#

Start of season 3 or 4?

arctic talon
#

I c

#

MF's ingame outfit looks a lot better as an actual complete top

#

like, I'm deadass

daring creek
#

She looks like a pirate in a stage show

winged jacinth
#

I thought she was intentionally piratess via andrew lloyd weber

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

the design riot never uses

#

ever

#

in any official media aside from ingame

daring creek
queen laurel
arctic talon
#

she doesn't even dress like that in lore

winged jacinth
# arctic talon I c

Im from the old times when we could buy 3 stack stats on kills infinitely items and ruin games as jax

daring creek
#

im ill but not that ill

#

not yet

arctic talon
#

her current outfit is like this lol

#

you get the ruined king cinematic

#

bcs I can't be assed to find the splash art

winged jacinth
#

Ruined king is really funny to me because its the only part of league lore even after all this time where im really like "yeah no clue what that is or what led up to it

#

Evil guy makin people green

arctic talon
#

the game is literally stabbing viego until he goes back to sleep

#

lol

#

the ingame event literally got retcon'd by the lore team

#

bcs it didn't get written by them

#

and they hated it

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

thats her ingame talking model

#

so sure whatever

#

but Riot uses the Captain Fortune design in like 99% of media nowadays

#

which is good bcs it looks cool lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
# winged jacinth Lmao

Why did you write this character this way which is weird because you don't write them this way

#

we did not write this event, this was literally the skins team

#

also we are retconing it so only the broad strokes are true

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

lol

vital ginkgo
#

Which chaos marines would be the easiest to serve under as a normal human?

rose thorn
#

OH SHITTTT

arctic talon
#

Red Corsairs

rose thorn
arctic talon
#

because Huron

#

yahar

rose thorn
#

AQUILIAN BROTHERHOOD AND PRAETORS OF ULTRAMWR

arctic talon
#

huron is the least racist one

arctic talon
#

but they had no scheme

arctic talon
#

ngl

#

I like the Praetors of Ultramar symbol

rose thorn
#

Me too

arctic talon
#

Aquiloan brotherhood is just

#

????

rose thorn
arctic talon
#

LT. Genericus is cooked

rose thorn
rose thorn
vital ginkgo
#

Easiest

valid needle
#

Easy life or easy to get into?

vital ginkgo
#

Easiest life. Like the most comfortable

valid needle
#

None of them

#

Maybe

#

Iron warriors

vital ginkgo
rocky gale
vital ginkgo
#

I know they all suck lol

valid needle
vital ginkgo
#

That's surprising but makes sense

valid needle
#

They don’t suffer fools though but if you are no fool then they are kinda chill

#

Their dad is a fucking dick though just pray it’s a warband that doesn’t see their dad.

arctic talon
#

anyways releavant to the recent nerf

valid needle
arctic talon
#

I want to edit it to Vitrix is dead

#

but I'm too lazy

valid needle
#

Sigismund is dead

valid needle
#

How goes the imperium books missus?

daring creek
#

I'm just going to read Eisenhorn today

#

I dont wanna read horus rising

#

its lwk a bit mid

#

I understand the point is to portray the imperiums state as like. well. imperialist, colonizing, normal 40k shit. but

#

its boring

#

the remembrancers are nice

#

but

#

it

#

it kind of feels like glazing

#

but then again its space marines vs a primitive civiilization

#

soooooo

#

yeah

#

though last I read

#

I got to a really interesting bit

#

jubal offed his bros

queen laurel
#

If you want more imperial history that's literally it

#

or you know you can just do the thing everyone does research

languid meadow
#

legit just read through like

#

a spark notes of the horus heresy

#

or not

#

it's not needed for 40k AT ALL

#

outside of knowing the primarchs

daring creek
#

Okay but

storm jungle
#

to get HH you literally need to read like 12 books out of 54 in total.

#

GW has literally made a fucking omnibus

#

out of this entire fact

#

lmao

daring creek
#

I'm reading just this fucking book and possibly mechanicum cuz it looks neat and I'm interested in admech

#

IF thats a good book on learning the admech

#

Also

#

I want to...complete this book....

languid meadow
#

That's a wolf question because I have no idea

queen laurel
daring creek
#

Awesome

daring creek
#

things get interesting

#

when you

queen laurel
daring creek
#

GET TO BOOK 5

#

FUCKING HELL

#

OKay okay

#

I knew it had this many books

#

but

vagrant fox
#

just read the first 3 and then skip to the siege it don't matter

daring creek
#

I'm not doing that shit dawg

queen laurel
#

Take it from us genuinely just read snippets of it if you want history

daring creek
#

⚰️

queen laurel
#

and like our clown said

vagrant fox
#

actually skip the siege and just read teatd

daring creek
#

my nose is runny

daring creek
#

I have a stupid fucking mindset where I'm like "I can't do y until I do x" and then I'm just fucking STUCK not doing anything cuz I nerver get around to X!!!!

#

and the x is reading at least half of H Rising before returning to eisenhorn

#

I have one more chapter

#

I read slowly

#

and

#

My attention span is not the best!

#

though eisenhorn grabbed me for hours

#

hm

#

I think im gonna try and stay up

languid meadow
#

I totally didn't realize this was J4 @arctic talon

storm jungle
languid meadow
#

that's just Demacia

queen laurel
#

homie how are you dripless

languid meadow
#

Silver Wing captain it seems

#

Also Garen looks like a gears of war character lol

#

I can't unsee it

queen laurel
#

he's always been built like Marcus fenix trained his ass

languid meadow
#

I know but I mean like

#

his neck

#

hold on

#

He's kind of uncanny lol

queen laurel
#

he looks really weird when he is not wearing his armor

#

yeah i can see it

languid meadow
#

dude looks so bad that the unnatural proportions of the Serans look good

queen laurel
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storm jungle
#

god the mocap is so bad

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

otherwise okay trailer

wintry cloud
rocky gale
languid meadow
#

Still coping will get an eldar trailer

#

I feel like joker with my necrons

#

without eldar immortality has no punchline

queen laurel
daring creek
#

me when im orking it

rocky gale
#

Dawn of 4