40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, lore-wise it's due to his suit and his robot limbs.

He isn't as nimble as he was, so his fighting style switched to strong strikes and being less aggressive to compensate

[dapper gyro]

You hear the breath to be consistent in rhythm, you see that killing is as easy as walking with him.

[jade holly]

I wish he was still super threatening in The Clone Wars

I feel like some people forget just how much of a fucking juggernaut Vader is

[dapper gyro]

I talk more of the psychological on the viewers.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, and even in the 2D clone wars, he does commonly use ambush tactics. Hell, Dooku says to use surprise and fear because he doesn't have the force.

Personally, I just wish the 3D clone wars show didn't relegate him as a joke.

[jade holly]

Honestly, BF2 is probably best Post 2D show Grievous

He has the ambush tank Playstyle

And great Grievous players are fucking terrifying

I want a Necron destroyer lord who fights like that

A monster that loves ambushing his prey and deliberately drawing out fear in his prey

[dapper gyro]

Clone wars have its up and down.

It was supposed to be a kid show after all.

[jade holly]

1 major up, Clone characterization and the introduction of Cad Bane

[dapper gyro]

/s

The bad batch S1 was cool, but S2 and S3 are punk puddle.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I know. But it shows how his strikes are direct. It shows his precision

He is an expert

Who works with his limitations

[rocky gale]

The mistake of Bad Batch imo was turning it into a running series, it should have been a single season and ended with a tragic blaze of glory.

[opaque coyote]

And has this look of a powerhouse tank rather than what the suit actually is

That being somewhat faulty life support

[jade holly]

If we did have a more Grievous style Necron would it be an Overlord or Destroyer cultist alongside his Magnaguard?

[jade holly]

Vader’s suit is purposefully designed to be a major pain for him to use, even breathing is painful. The pain fuels his rage

[dapper gyro]

The Imperial Fists learnt some stuff from it, like inducing pain to be better at fighting...

/j

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think it's supposed to keep him alive.

With the dark side partially acting as the mechanism to do so.

And to make it so that he can't overthrow palpatine without dying due to the electronics needed

Of course Palpatine couldn't recognize the problem him doing so anyways

[dapper gyro]

Clone Commando is slick. Also one of the best unit in EABF2.

[opaque coyote]

Side note, I still find it funny that

The Dark Side literally can keep you alive if you're angry enough

Like Maul got split in half and he was still alive because he hated Obi Wan that much

I just find it funny that hating literally keeps them alive

[dapper gyro]

Then he got cut in half the 2nd time by Kenobi.

[opaque coyote]

Imagine being such a huge hater that you survive being burned alive with your limbs gone

[dapper gyro]

But this time, he doesn't hate Kenobi enough.

[opaque coyote]

Nah just stabbed.

Tbf his hatred disappeared at the time. What was once a fire was now embers

[dapper gyro]

He knows that would get hunted down by the like of Vader anyway.

[valid needle]

Inner circle companions would solo

[opaque coyote]

Because at that point, him hating Kenobi was basically just... all he knew. The only thing he had left ironically enough

[valid needle]

Especially if said inner circle companion is Knight Commander Kai

[opaque coyote]

Star Wars Rebels was a mid ass show even for kids.

But it had some really good moments

Bad Batch was really good though

It fell off somewhat at S3 but luckily they ended it

In general Star Wars works better as shows than movies in my opinion

Exploring more of the universe is great

[dapper gyro]

I think movies are good, all 6 of them.

[valid needle]

But there’s 9

[dapper gyro]

Some are weaker, but still.

[jade holly]

The sequel trilogy sucks

[dapper gyro]

Really?

[jade holly]

should’ve put more focus on Finn tbh

but nah he gets sidelined

[valid needle]

Prequel trilogy
Original trilogy
Sequel trilogy

[dapper gyro]

Are you sure that you didn't hurt your head somewhere?

If not, I can hurt it for you.

[jade holly]

Oh

I see now

[valid needle]

Should have put more focus on making Kylo ren less a wimpy crybaby bitch and more an actual Skywalker.

[dapper gyro]

The hallucination is real.

I mean, weak minded people, easily controlled.

[arctic talon]

Ngl if they wanted to make him pathetic they should have leaned into it

lol

[lament shoal]

Its been 8 fucking years since primaris was introduced, and these people still aren't over it

Like dude, your bitching ain't making it go away anytime soon

[arctic talon]

Destiny ironically nailed the pathetic person who’s still a threat

[daring creek]

What are the primaris

[arctic talon]

Marines with some extra organs

[humble shoal]

I still like the older armor

In the concept arts

[lament shoal]

New and improved marines

The firstborn were phased out in favor of them

[vagrant fox]

dredgen yor

[daring creek]

Oh. Neat.

[lament shoal]

Thank you Daddy Cawl

[vagrant fox]

Space marines with an upgrade package

it makes them slightly more autistic

[arctic talon]

Dredgen Bael is our new copy cat dredgen who’s even more pathetic

[lament shoal]

To be more specific, they're

In comparison to the firstborn

[vagrant fox]

I should take a look at the new Destiny story stuff, my old clan says it's not bad

[arctic talon]

The story these couple expansions have been good

[valid needle]

They did

[arctic talon]

Dredgen Bael is genuinely really well written and a dissection of what entitlement and being a bitter asshole leads to lol

[arctic talon]

Not enough

||Bael’s entire character motivation literally stems from the fact his mother got resurrected as a guardian, didn’t remember him and was rude to him once.

After raising him up||

He’s so fucking pathetic, self centered and whiny

[vagrant fox]

Good god Byf is still doing his nonsense, but destinypedia isn't updated. Guess I'll wait

That's funny, it's on the list for next month

[arctic talon]

The lore team being told by executives they need to insert a Star Wars reference into the expansion

(Fate worse then death)

The story + lore of the expansion very much feels amputated from the fact the expansion also has gulp shitto lightsabers

[vagrant fox]

I pity them, it's so distracting I keep not wanting to look

[arctic talon]

Don’t blame you

Oh also drifters ghost being about as foul and awful as him is hilarious

[vagrant fox]

That's good, only reason I did gambit was because I liked drifters dialogue

oh Zavala is still around too voiced by Keith Davids, you look away for a moment, almost 3 years, and things are all wack

[opaque coyote]

Daemon of Tzeentch: https://youtu.be/xVWeRnStdSA?si=RX6ItTKjdZe5UhFY

Huh Cat

[jade holly]

Clovis Bray?

[arctic talon]

Clovis bray is pretty pathetic as well

Bael is even more pathetic

[surreal nest]

I hate how the more standard models in boxes look way cooler than the specialist version you usually pick

Killteam suffers from this like crazy

[vagrant fox]

one more week for BL to release at least one Warhammer Crime this year

[arctic talon]

[lament shoal]

Imperium apologists trying to explain why serving in the guard would be "cool" and "based":

[valid needle]

I apologise to absolutely no one. Those xenos had it coming.

https://tenor.com/view/i-did-it-because-i-liked-it-i-did-it-because-i-liked-it-punisher-punisher-daredevil-punisher-court-scene-punisher-court-speech-gif-9280760464850102883

[surreal nest]

I LOVE AOS

DEATH TO 40K

[jade holly]

You know what?

I want my own signature mini that I own multiple iterations of

[valid needle]

I agree

[vagrant fox]

If only you'd said WHFB I'd be on your side, alas, you must die

[jade holly]

I’m watching a video of this guy with 10 Kharn minis

[surreal nest]

Warhammer fantasy was lame and deserved its own death

[vagrant fox]

true also

[valid needle]

Fuck WHFB all my homies love AOS

[vagrant fox]

WHFB is pure nostalgia in my brain it's where I started though so

it wins

[jade holly]

Question is, what mini do I make my signature mini?

[vagrant fox]

The one what you like the most

[surreal nest]

This is fair!

OH MY GOD MY YIPPE EMOTE GOT DELETED

WHY

[vagrant fox]

I still have my 1994 chaos warriors because i'm geriatric

Punished for overuse

[valid needle]

[valid needle]

Did you buy them in 1994?

[vagrant fox]

2004 or so

[valid needle]

Unc is old old

[vagrant fox]

Shortly before my Battle for Macragge starter box set

Mother threw that one away because I must suffer. I loved that tiny terrain piece

[jade holly]

Whenever I get comfortable with building minis and begin kitbashing, I wanna do something cool

Combining the aesthetics of 2 different armies

[valid needle]

I’m doing that with BT and DA

[jade holly]

Necrons and TS

[valid needle]

DA with bucket helms? Perfection.

[jade holly]

I would make Szarekh my signature mini but…

Uhhh, yeah

Hard pass

[surreal nest]

I know you are a fantasy head

But how do you feel about the new chaos marauders

[jade holly]

Idk why my mind immediately went to the word Draugrs

but it did

[surreal nest]

That works!

[jade holly]

They are meant to be Viking inspired right?

I’m not insane?

[wary fulcrum]

I absolutely love these guys

[wary fulcrum]

I think it’s just generic fantasy Northman

[vagrant fox]

Be careful who you call ugly in middle school

[arctic talon]

Yes sorta not really

[vagrant fox]

I think they look cool, hopefully they sell well

[arctic talon]

They’ll be harvested for AoS and whfb

lol

[jade holly]

I like guy in the middle on the bottom

I love the thick fur cloak

[vagrant fox]

the greed of aosers sicken me

[wary fulcrum]

Definitely

2 dark oath marauders, 18 dark oath Savagers, a chieftain and a ‘queen’ in there

[vagrant fox]

I would probably buy if it I had an LGS near where I live

[wary fulcrum]

Wait till you meet a Necromundite

[vagrant fox]

They'll never be satisfied

[arctic talon]

AoS can steal from any fantasy system

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-black-cat-cattok-cat-tiktok-gif-16975015739671408900

that's how it feels

[opaque coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1447779611994882048/G7UB29RXMAEUoUj.gif

(he is giving him a present regardless to spread the Christmas joy)

[vagrant fox]

destroy all 40k memes and start over

[surreal nest]

Sold out like a week ago so

[surreal nest]

Speaking of which

The musician should proxy fine for a godspeaker yeah?

I wanna use them for spearhead

[wary fulcrum]

Oh that is a fantastic shout

[young pecan]

I never understand how people let their cats get this greedy

[copper patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/bat-banana-gluttony-stuffed-face-gluttonous-beast-gif-7422105611539376827

[young pecan]

Genuinely makes me angry when I see videos of peoples' cats doing that

Even more if they're grown

[vagrant fox]

It's just a little gluttonous beast

None of mine did that idk cats are wack

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-true-eating-eat-uma-musume-gif-6958309401336282549

[sour hornet]

okay

lowkirkenuinely

why is the BA attractive man

wait, is it a geneseed thing?

[wary fulcrum]

Probably

Renaissance coded

[valid needle]

Yes actually

[wary fulcrum]

The real question is, why isn’t the space wolf’s hair white

That is their worst retcon

[sour hornet]

They get turned attractive during augmentation?

even if theyre chopped ?

man

[arctic talon]

They get made to look more like sanguinus

Mostly in facial structure

[sour hornet]

I gotta fucking sign up to the Blood Angels

[arctic talon]

There are some really fucking ugly BA tho

[valid needle]

Blood Angels are famously much more handsome than the average marine.

[arctic talon]

Like Dante’s melee instructor

[arctic talon]

GW stopped doing white hair only space wolves over a decade ago

[sour hornet]

this is the legion for me man

[arctic talon]

💀

[sour hornet]

imagine being a chopped vampire with rapid-onset dementia 🥀 🥀 🥀

[vagrant fox]

Or you turn into a gorilla bat

[wary fulcrum]

Exactly, it’s their worst retcon

I think it was closer to 20 years ago like, I don’t remember it being in the fifth Ed codex

Spoilers - sort of - for the new Necromunda book

Gw are flat out murdering characters with minis

One for sure was blown in half with a bolt pistol, one had their arm cut off and has been curb stomped by enforcers so might be alive, might not be

Another also turned out to be a robot so probably going to come back

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I think it also depends on age

And also the fact that

You're still being sent into battles

Your face is inevitably gonna be fucked

So I can imagine veterans are more likely to be chopped looking

Also things like the Black Rage make you ugly regardless so...

In general, being an SM sucks, but I think the BA geneseed is something you don't want

Even if you survive all the trials and the coin flip

[sour hornet]

Didn't Kharn have a relatively unblemished face for a while though? That guy fought quite a bit its alleged

[opaque coyote]

Well Kharn is a swell guy.

Tbh I have no idea. Every depiction of him is with his helmet

[sour hornet]

Being superhuman + mogging 99% of humanity >>>> becoming ugly bat monster and dying

[opaque coyote]

I imagine he has an unblemished face due to him being so skilled

[sour hornet]

think of the aura farming ability you will be granted

[opaque coyote]

Also, tbh, I forgot if like

The geneseeds have you look more like your Primarchs in general

[sour hornet]

BA have no shortage of badass fighters like mephiston and zephon

[sour hornet]

well, who are primarchs that are confirmed attractive?

[opaque coyote]

Like it'd make sense if you joined the UM, and your face kinda looks a bit more like Guilliman's after you survived the geneseed implantations

[opaque coyote]

All of them.

[vagrant fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648179640506122250/1453165483002953870/IMG_1386.jpg?ex=694c7551&is=694b23d1&hm=7ef02903250af92df86d64345b5af7a86ed03d0adc793c96693414571980b635&

[opaque coyote]

Like

Except Mortarion I guess?

I think Angron is also described as still being handsome.

[sour hornet]

Ur not going to tell me that ferrus manus and fucking peter turbo are galactic heartthrobs

[valid needle]

Lion El’Jonson

[opaque coyote]

Man a lot of women are attracted to fucking Konrad Curze

[sour hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/fair-baron-zemo-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-fair-enough-seems-fair-gif-22912772

[valid needle]

I would climb that fucking tree in record time

[opaque coyote]

Personally I don't get it

Konrad looks like he smells like Mortarion

[sour hornet]

I mean, only like fulgrim and sanguinius are so attractive that other dudes are like "damn he's hot"

[opaque coyote]

Then again, Mortarion's face got fucked due to the place he managed to fall to.

I like to imagine that he was actually supposed to be the most handsome Primarch, but he was just unlucky

[sour hornet]

and fulgrim isnt really an option now

[opaque coyote]

I mean

Imagine what he could do with the snake part

[sour hornet]

I do not.

[valid needle]

Fulgrim is ugly as shit

Mf looks like Lucius Malfoy wtf

[sour hornet]

I mean HH fulgrim

[valid needle]

https://tenor.com/view/lucius-malfoy-jason-isaacs-harry-potter-gif-26743337

Fulgrim in 30K

[vagrant fox]

Fulgrim was the only one to have wives -> Fulgrim was the only attractive one

[valid needle]

And now he has a husband. How the turntables turn or something.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf they were political marriages

[vagrant fox]

I mean Lee Pace as Thranduil could get it

[opaque coyote]

I don't think Primarchs have sex drive canonically

Like the SMs

Could be wrong though

[vagrant fox]

Irrelevant until I argue against Fulgrim

[vagrant fox]

Just means he's sexier

[opaque coyote]

But regardless

I think Horus was described as attractive as well

Before he got on the Chaos Juice

[valid needle]

Lion El’Jonson could get it
Rogal Dorn could get it
Konrad Curze could get it
Sanguinius could get it
Lorgar could get it
Alpharius and Omegon could get it at the same time

[sour hornet]

I mean

hes not exactly ugly even turned to chaos

[valid needle]

I can’t unsee Lucius Malfoy I’m sorry

[sour hornet]

loyalist fulgrim would probably be just a temu sanguinius

I mean, 1E Russ was something else man

[opaque coyote]

Either way, I think that Lorgar had really good drip

[sour hornet]

Ehh

Agree

[valid needle]

Lorgar was the primarch who looked most like the emperor

[sour hornet]

???

[valid needle]

Before he shaved his hair off

[sour hornet]

He's norwooding

[sour hornet]

Oh okay

[opaque coyote]

Like damn that looks cool

[jade holly]

The Word Bearers are an interesting bunch ngl

Like yeah haha they’re the religious clerics and paladins

but the idea of them

[opaque coyote]

Too bad Lorgar is probably like

Guilliman tier in terms of actually throwing hands

[valid needle]

Lorewise Lorgar is the primarch who is said to have been the double image of the emperor.

[jade holly]

The philosophy they presented and ultimately had affirmed

[sour hornet]

Word Bearers beefing with the smurfs at every opportunity is still funny to me

[opaque coyote]

I think that's partially why the Emperor was pissed at him being religious.

[jade holly]

In a roundabout way they were proven right about the Emperor

[sour hornet]

Guilliman really does get his ass beat by basically everything, huh?

Wait...

He beat that one lord of change

[jade holly]

And with Faith having power in the Imperium, that just further proves the WB right

[opaque coyote]

Guilliman isn't really a warrior

[jade holly]

Yeah but get him angry…

[opaque coyote]

He likes battling the countless sheets of excel

Not battling his traitorous brothers

[valid needle]

I mean it was a Word Bearer who rewrote the book of lorgar into the Lectitio Divinitatus used by the ecclesiarchy today.

[jade holly]

I just love how with Guilliman it’s one sight for any Word Bearers

To the point he throws himself into space to throw hands

[sour hornet]

Yeah...

[valid needle]

A loyalist Word Bearer but still a Word Bearer who basically founded the ecclesiarchy

[opaque coyote]

I swear him and Lorgar were friends before the whole

...

Horus Heresy

[jade holly]

Honestly you could argue that as the foundation of the Dark King

[opaque coyote]

Which probably is part of the reason why they're so pissed at each other

[jade holly]

I really do want the Ecclesiarchy and the Dark King to be interconnected in the lore

It just makes too much sense to me

[opaque coyote]

I mean Guilliman specifically regretted burning down Monarchia.

He still did it of course. Can't piss off dad.

[valid needle]

The Word Bearer rewrote the Lectitio Divinitatus and helped found the ecclesiarchy after the emperor first almost became the dark king.

[sour hornet]

The Emperor fumbling both Lorgar and Angron really created some of the most doggedly persistent threats to the Imperium.

[opaque coyote]

Relative to like

Angron, Russ, Magnus, etc

[jade holly]

Like is the Dark King a psychological aspect of Emperor or something that tries to possess him?

[opaque coyote]

Especially during the Horus Heresy

[valid needle]

Sure Lorgar wrote the foundations of the Lectitio Divinitatus but it was his son the Anchorite who rewrote it after the heresy.

[jade holly]

And no one killing Konrad during the entire Heresy when he was dead to rights multiple times

[opaque coyote]

To be honest, I still have the theory that part of the reason why Emps was so pissed at Lorgar was because Lorgar looked so similar.

I believe it reminded him of his old self

A lot of staunch atheists were religious after all

[jade holly]

Wasn’t E wanting atheism for a pragmatic reason too?

[opaque coyote]

It's like looking at your child self making the exact same mistakes

[jade holly]

Starving chaos?

[opaque coyote]

Also that yes

But he's also just reddit tier atheist in general

Last Church moment

"Religion is bad because it helps direct atrocities"

• says the man who would make the Imperium

[jade holly]

Is it wrong I enjoy the idea that the Dark King was a dark psyche that Big E represses but slowly loses control of as he gets worshipped as a god of violent conquest and purgation?

[opaque coyote]

This is the best summary of the Emperor in terms of how he was as a person:
https://youtu.be/AhW93Od0xG4?si=ldHa1X-rRTtw2hSy

[jade holly]

Reminds me of another video lol

[opaque coyote]

Also

https://youtu.be/CcceOOPdKZY?si=4429dAJF0hyZntch

[jade holly]

You tricked me, I thought that was 40K related smh

[sour hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[wary fulcrum]

Nah, he got Angron right

The only other realistic option was kill him

[jade holly]

You saying there was no way to remove the Butcher’s Nails?

[wary fulcrum]

If he did and it didn’t kill Angron, Angron would have killed E

Angron didn’t turn because of the Butcher’s Nails

Angron turned because the Imperium relies on the slavery of the average citizen and the Emperor is just another slaver

“We fight because the Emperor wants every world in his hands. All he knows is slavery, painted in the inoffensive cloak of compliance. The very notion of freedom is a horror to him.”

“I do these things, and I enjoy them, not because we are moral, or right – or loving souls seeking to enlighten a dark universe – but because all I feel are the Butcher’s Nails hammered into my brain. I serve because of this “mutilation”. Without it? Well, perhaps I might be a more moral man, like you claim to be. A virtuous man, eh? Perhaps I might ascend the steps of our father’s palace and take the slaving bastard’s head”

His reasons for turning wasn’t the nails, they just broke his mind.

His issue was that he saw the Imperium for what it truly was.

[opaque coyote]

If that was his actual reason then he would've turned traitor even before Horus.

Then again I forgot how long the great crusade lasted

It also definitely didn't help that Emps literally fucking took him away from the battle and didn't help the rebels

[wary fulcrum]

That’s the only benevolent thing the Emperor ever did

[opaque coyote]

I'm referring to the not helping the rebels part

[wary fulcrum]

Me too

[opaque coyote]

If Emps gave him support, their relationship probably would've been

Slightly better to begin with

[wary fulcrum]

He let them die as free men and women rather than enslaving them with the chains of compliance

It would have been just as bad

He was still a slaver, just another high rider

[opaque coyote]

That definitely was unintentional on his part though. He just didn't care

[wary fulcrum]

Only now Angron would be surrounded by his family who all saw the same thing

[opaque coyote]

"Dad those are literally my friends and family. Please just fucking help them."

"mmph, hey son want some of this popcorn?"

[sour hornet]

Maybe take the fucking butchers nails out of his skull man?

[opaque coyote]

Part of it is intent. And the Emperor definitely didn't intend that.

Hell the planet pretty much didn't change at all

Although tbf, Imperium

[wary fulcrum]

Would have killed him apparently, and E needed a primarch

[opaque coyote]

At the same time though, it definitely wasn't an intentional mercy

[sour hornet]

Emperor glaze in 025.M3 is crazy

[opaque coyote]

Bro Angron basically ruined more stuff than he did actually help, even ignoring the Heresy

In a purely pragmatic sense, killing him was the best option

[wary fulcrum]

it’s what happened though . He could have subjugated all of them and forced them to be compliant if he’d wanted

If he can force a legion to it’s knees with a thought, then a few crusty pit fighters and a hand full of of ragtags would be as easy as breathing

[sour hornet]

Big E has all sorts of special forces and undetectable assassins, yet didn't use them to discreetly eliminate the slaver leadership.

[opaque coyote]

Then again, Angron fucked things up for the Traitors as well when he joined

Which is hilarious

Istvaan would've been a quick and easy bombing run if Angron didn't go down to kill them himself

[arctic talon]

He didn’t want to

They had agreed to comply already lol

[opaque coyote]

At some point I think Angron was expecting them to bomb him.

[arctic talon]

Why give a shit about the slavers

They’re nominally loyal now

[opaque coyote]

So that he could die

[arctic talon]

They accepted imperial rule

[opaque coyote]

But they didn't

[arctic talon]

I mean the slavers did

Wait nvm

lol

[sour hornet]

Big E deserves the chair

[arctic talon]

No shit

[opaque coyote]

The Golden Cuck Throne

[wary fulcrum]

Deserves a righteous man to choke him daddy

Wait

[opaque coyote]

I mean if the Emps was any sexuality, it's definitely gay

I refuse to believe that the Emperor was ever straight

[wary fulcrum]

Shit, it’s virtuous man, not righteous man

[opaque coyote]

In his thousands of years of life, I doubt he was ever straight

[sour hornet]

40k is inherently gay i think

[opaque coyote]

Bi/Pan could be a possibility, because Sisters of Silence

But definitely not straight

[wary fulcrum]

I can’t remember the name for his kids

[sour hornet]

His father rose up within him, pouring from the staff and into every fibre of his essence. Ahriman felt himself pressed into the very frontiers of his flesh as Magnus the Red claimed him, a being of spirit newly returned to flesh. Ahzek Ahriman could not contain Aforgomon’s power and live. But the Crimson King could. Ahriman felt his body swell with the essence of a god. He was no longer in command of his flesh. That duty and honour fell to his primarch.

‘I know this body like no other,’ said Fabius, running his surgically-enabled digits over Fulgrim’s skin with a lover’s familiarity.

[opaque coyote]

The Sensei's are non-canon

But yeah

[wary fulcrum]

Ninjas
Enigmas
Illuminati

Some shit

[wary fulcrum]

That’s the one!

[opaque coyote]

Like one of the things that are actually non-canon

[arctic talon]

Illuminati are another thing

[sour hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[arctic talon]

lol

Who also might not exist now

[opaque coyote]

Also I like to believe that Big E isn't the last perpetual known at the moment who is "Alive."

That there are more that are just laying low

Like they're just waiting for this Asshole's empire to disintegrate

[jade holly]

What do we think of both a new Trazyn model and a potentially new Overlord model that both hold a Tesseract Labyrinth?

[arctic talon]

There is literally a grey knight perpetual

Who just shows up to die

[arctic talon]

Trazyn will be his own unique sculpt

Like the perpetual grey knight

Has died

[jade holly]

I know that

[arctic talon]

Every time he shows up

I find it highly unlikely GW releases another overlord mini

[jade holly]

But would you like both him and a new Overlord model holding a Tesseract Labyrinth?

[arctic talon]

They’re likely going to make a Lord

[arctic talon]

No bcs it feels redundant I’m ngl

[jade holly]

I kinda want a new Royal Warden as well

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-they-killed-kenny-you-bastards-stan-marsh-kyle-broflovski-south-park-gif-21551522

[arctic talon]

Dead ass bro has died 3 times

Obliterated by Kairos
Mogged by a horde of lesser daemons
Impaled by a keeper of secrets

[jade holly]

Did we get a new Nightbringer model?

[arctic talon]

2026

[wary fulcrum]

Soon

Got leaked

[jade holly]

Ah

[arctic talon]

It got leaked so GW had to reveal it early

Which sucked lol

Ruined the Killteam season finale

Smh

[jade holly]

So then I guess we just need new models for Transcendant C’tan and the Deceiver

[arctic talon]

Deceiver is next likely

Transcendent C’tan is newer

[jade holly]

How visually cool of an army would be one that has more elite noble units? Stuff like Immortals, Royal Warden, Triarch Praetorians, Lychgards, Overlords and Silent King?

[arctic talon]

Dead ass the deceiver is from 3e

[jade holly]

Damn

What’s the oldest model currently still in legal play?

[arctic talon]

Define legal play

Has rules in general?

[jade holly]

Not in Legends

Still salty about Zahndrekh and Obyron getting the boot

[arctic talon]

You can still run them

Deceiver, eldar support weapon platform, Ork Lootas

Oh actually

Ork warboss with big choppa beats them all

He’s from 2e

You know he’s old because he specifies what loadout he has

[jade holly]

It seems rough trying to find Zahndrekh and Obyron to buy

Let alone Anrakyr

feel like I’m better off trying to wait for updated models

In 10 years

[arctic talon]

Probably less

lol

Necrons are almost out of stuff to update

And pretty popular

[jade holly]

We need some Lord models actually

Like Necron lords

Not Destroyer lords or overlords

And maybe a Phaeron model too

[arctic talon]

Necron Lords don’t have a mini rn yeah

[jade holly]

I just saw an art of a Necron Overlord that makes me wanna kitbash one in a unique way

Floating in the air cross legged with a necklace of Resurrection Orbs

prob not the necklace part but the floating in the air cross legged for sure

[surreal nest]

Can undivided chaos devotees suffer from multiple god specific mutations at once? Or are there more generalized?

[outer wave]

Probably the former

There might be some of the latter but more from the fact they're just simply exposed to warp on a daily basis

[surreal nest]

How would that work for AoS?

[outer wave]

What, the specific mutations at once bit?

[surreal nest]

Chaos power still warps and mutates flesh right?

No just in general of presence to chaos

I know Chaos causes like corruption (from total war at least)

[outer wave]

Yeah, hence why some devotees or even chosen can become chaos spawn if their bodies cant handle the pressure of their gifts

[daring creek]

That is a good pondering.

Like does chaos undivided enjoy all of the goods and bads of chaos?

[surreal nest]

Ahhh ok I honestly wasn't sure of AoS had chaos spawns

[outer wave]

The chaos gods are described as being generous but careless when it comes to giving out gifts to their followers

I couldnt see why they wouldnt

[daring creek]

But don't chaos gods hate eachother?

[surreal nest]

I guess they would rather have shared souls than no souls?

[daring creek]

How are they tolerant of chaos undivided?

[outer wave]

You're in the middle of things, so you never become an extreme for one god (like you dont become endlessly angry despite having some Khorne in your system), but you probably never get to enjoy the extremes of each god

[daring creek]

Oh so they're centrists

Truly evil...

[outer wave]

Yeah, they all work against each other (and occasionally with each other) to grab more followers. The idea is that they try and tug you towards their side by giving you more boons more useful and/or tempting than the other gods

[dapper gyro]

Most of the time, they are undivided for a common objective that they want to be done with.

[surreal nest]

I feel like being chaos undivided is like shaking keys at a bunch of evil toddlers hoping they will latch onto you

[outer wave]

Like you might like having smarts and strength, but Khorne may give you extra oomph and better ability to use weapons over Tzeentch

But Tzeentch may give you some pre-cognition abilities

Nurgle may swoop in and give you gangrene to coerce you at the same time

Slaanesh may try and make that feel better by some weird ass purfume or something

[daring creek]

Oooh

Sounds like a all you can eat buffet

[outer wave]

It is until you realize your soul is on the line and your body might not make it through

[daring creek]

And that's why you lock in

[outer wave]

Well, that more comes from the fact that the gods need constant coddling and entertainment

If you stop trying to do the thing you're supposed to do, they can take away those gifts or worse

[surreal nest]

Can chaos daemons from seperate gods work together or will they just fuck each other up given the chance?

[outer wave]

And your peers may try to backstab you or use you to further their ends

So everyone's in this ratrace to the top where you become a legitimate slave

[daring creek]

It's not slavery

Its a life style

[outer wave]

Ive heard of stories like Skarbrand and The Masque working together temporarily, but it does end in betrayal

[daring creek]

I need to touch a chaos book

[outer wave]

So it can happen

[surreal nest]

I cant help but imagine a bloodthirster wouldn't at least knock over a blue horror while running to the front

[daring creek]

I wonder how good that newest book is

[outer wave]

It probably happens, but the chaos gods are capable of locking in when they need to

[daring creek]

Because I'm pretty sure it focuses on chaos primarily

[surreal nest]

I appreciate the chaos knowledge for my brain

[outer wave]

Chaos is interesting when you dont simply talk about the gods and their schticks

[daring creek]

About its members then

[outer wave]

Because their schticks do get somewhat boring (some more so than others)

Yeah exactly

What daemons and cultists do

[surreal nest]

Thats why I love AoS chaos warriors they are so interesting

[daring creek]

Makes sense since those are the ones that allow them to have their influence

[surreal nest]

Their motivations and all

[outer wave]

What are they called again? The ones that are basically Norsca but in AoS?

They got abandoned by Sigmar IIRC

[surreal nest]

Darkoath maybe?

[outer wave]

Yeah that sounds about right

[surreal nest]

But they are like conan bronze age barbarians

[outer wave]

Sounds like Norsca

[surreal nest]

I really dont like the route AoS went with marauders

[jade holly]

You think a Necron ever kills a TS and sees the disc they fly around on and think “joyride time”

[daring creek]

What's a good book on chaos in general

Also

[surreal nest]

For AoS?

[daring creek]

Chaos gods kind of otherlap with eachother no?

For 40k

[surreal nest]

😡

[outer wave]

No, the disc either disappears with the TS or that disc is gonna ram itself into a wall to get the necron off

[jade holly]

Well some are in direct opposition to one another

[daring creek]

I'll touch AoS when I touch AoS

[surreal nest]

Touch it now

[daring creek]

Touch my nuts

[jade holly]

Those 3 seconds are gonna be one Hell of a joyride though

[outer wave]

Ehhh better spent on other things methinks

[jade holly]

Also who’s to say they don’t just reverse engineer it

[outer wave]

They dont need to

[daring creek]

But what's a good general chaos book? I think I should touch on Eberus since hes a major player for why the imperium is what it is now

[outer wave]

Or probably want to

[daring creek]

Right?

[outer wave]

The disc is literally a warp creature made into that form

[jade holly]

Theoretically speaking it’d be a good way for a commander to get an overview of the field

[outer wave]

I sadly know jackshit about the books, so I got no real opinion of value on 'em lmao

I think that search will lead to the HH books, which from what I know are a mixed bag

[winter pine]

I'm very glad there's an appreciation for how extremely evil and malevolent Erebus is

Tired of the morally grey villians, give me more of the "I was born evil lmao" ones

For good chaos books though I like Lords of Silence for the Death Guard POV

[sour hornet]

Yes, but only as long as their goals coincide. Daemons don't even like their fellow-aligned kin, let alone rival daemons.

Still, even Greater Daemons will ally when given a reason.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Quadrifold_Abominatum

For an example of 'cardinal rivals' working together, here's one with Khorne and Slaanesh.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Brazen_Host

[arctic talon]

I’m a Big fan of the word bearer trilogy

[arctic talon]

There’s mixed chaos daemon warbands they’re great

Tons of fun

[sour hornet]

A Lord of Change once stole control of a daemon warband by literally just asking for it and pinky-promising to give it back.

Of course he didn't give it back and trapped the former leader, a Keeper of Secrets, in the Crystal Palace.

He made up for the theft to Slaanesh by trapping a Dark Eldar slaving party and capturing the Archon — before snapping her arms and legs and gifting her helpless body to Slaanesh.

[daring creek]

gotcha

[opaque coyote]

This actually fucking scared me

Like I'm not joking here, that face actually jumpscared me a little

what the fuck is that

[queen laurel]

well you certainly almost ruined my day

[opaque coyote]

This is one of the first things I see

[dapper gyro]

Get off twitter...

[opaque coyote]

Sorry it's just.

I just want to know how

and

and why

[daring creek]

Is her face a mask.

I remember seeing a woman on the train

who had a literal mask for a face

[opaque coyote]

Is there a picture of laura loomer pre plastic surgery

I actually want to know now

[daring creek]

No hate though

[opaque coyote]

give me a sec

[daring creek]

Already a stigma

[queen laurel]

Laati i don't blame you but like i genuinely didn't want to see that

like i can't exactly put it into words i just like don't wanna see

[daring creek]

it's scary yeah.

[dapper gyro]

Hey there, an ork doesn't like ugly face?

[opaque coyote]

yeah i'll justu h

delete that

genuinely I can't actually believe that a human being would choose to look like that

[celest dome]

What did you post ?

[queen laurel]

yeah but like would you want that thing staring at you 24/7?

[daring creek]

Thats a person by the way.

Not a "thing".

[queen laurel]

sorry it looks so unnatural that's the only word i can use

Look get plastic surgery when you want as long as it doesn't hurt you but like that was just unnatural

[opaque coyote]

I found some pictures of what she apparently looked like before plastic surgery

[daring creek]

Yeah it just reads as monster-izing a person for their looks

regardless of whether they chose to look that way or not

[opaque coyote]

she looked

[queen laurel]

Yeah like I understand that is completely my bad but that was just that one is just wrong man

[opaque coyote]

completely fine

[daring creek]

tbh my first assumption is she could be some kind of burning victim or smth.

or some weird beauty standards..

[opaque coyote]

tbf it helps that she's kind of a shit person, she's an active MAGA celebrity

[dapper gyro]

Ah, so a monster, but not because of the face.

[queen laurel]

OK then i I feel significantly less bad

[opaque coyote]

yeah basically

But still, this is a trend among well known MAGA women

I have no idea why

[dapper gyro]

Insecurity leading to the abuse of plastic surgeries?

[opaque coyote]

possibly

Either way I kinda feel bad now

and still slightly scared ngl

that face is gonna be burned in my memories

[daring creek]

Does that really scare yall

[queen laurel]

that's just weird i can't even say anything like why go that far

[queen laurel]

I'm not scared I'm just weirded out

[daring creek]

Huh I guess being born to a freakshow makes me used to that lmao.

[queen laurel]

I understand what plastic surgery is and stuff but like that's just a bit too much

[opaque coyote]

like plastic surgery is fine

it's your body

but also what

[dapper gyro]

I understand that not everyone are born beautiful. However, if you actively destroy your face, or life in some case... Then there is something wrong.

[queen laurel]

I'm of a firm belief that plastic surgery it's fine in moderation

you can have it i'm not gonna stop you but like don't take it too far

[daring creek]

My dads foot looks like it came out of chernoboyl

im being dead serious lmao

[opaque coyote]

elephant foot

[daring creek]

two of his toenails are fused together. He has only 4 on each foot

just the way he was born

[opaque coyote]

...I mean

At least he can clip his nails easier

+1?

[daring creek]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

not exactly.

[opaque coyote]

oh

[daring creek]

lmao

Actually I think he's even gotten cut by one of them growing too long

[dapper gyro]

If you don't take care of yourself and get obese, then trauma dump on people. I have no shame to call them out.

[daring creek]

holes in his socks

[dapper gyro]

Even if it sounds insulting sometimes.

[daring creek]

What if trauma made them not take care of themselves?

[opaque coyote]

usually i'd be fine but that was deadass one of the first things I saw on my feed

[daring creek]

His forearms are also super short

[dapper gyro]

Seek professional help

[opaque coyote]

tbf at times that isn't possible

[daring creek]

like nearly to the joint

[opaque coyote]

cause that costs

MONEYY

[dapper gyro]

I know enough people having issue, but they do things to improve the situation, not digging deeper.

[daring creek]

But surely shaming them helps lmao. Lets make obesity even more of a stigma! surely stigmatizing body shape will solve their problems

[opaque coyote]

that is also true

[dapper gyro]

Also, trauma dumping is not just about having trauma, it is also blaming other people and avoid responsibility. That's the kind of trauma dump that I'm talking about.

[daring creek]

I see

[opaque coyote]

Case by case basis basically

unfortunately we're hardwired against case by case

[daring creek]

My mother is that way for sure, in that she outright refuses to take responsibility for anything.

[opaque coyote]

our brains take a lot of shortcuts in general

[daring creek]

I pray for her coworkers.

[dapper gyro]

You blame people for your diet... but you keep eating unhealthy food... Im not even bringing the "cook food yourself" or do some physical training.

No, I have no sympathy for such case.

[opaque coyote]

what about those that continually try to improve but keep backsliding

as a hypothetical

[dapper gyro]

I don't know, if you try to talk to them to be healthier, but they keep refusing, looking for excuse from somewhere else to justify themselves... They abuse themselves.

[dapper gyro]

Honestly, it does take a lot of will power to move out of the confort zone. As long as they put in effort, I cheer them for that.

Btw, one of my buddy was 110kg (250lbs) 3 years ago. Now he is 85kg (190lbs), the guy put in the work.

He wanted to improve and did exactly that.

There is difference. I don't want to judge people, but after knowing them, yes, I will have opinion.

[daring creek]

Yes but you run a higher chance of them getting worse shaming them. People are very sensitive about their bodies...

You can also point them to an even worse life style of under-eating and over-exercising. I don't really know your experience with the people you've interacted with, so I'm not going to speak on that. but I find its much better to be sympathetic and push them in the correct direction by putting emphasis on taking small steps.

Over-exercising can be especially dangerous for morbidly overweight people, putting all the extra strain on their already strained bodies.

Sort of happened with me once. couldn't really get up comfortably for a while but I'm okay now.

Like the info on actual decent body wellness is quite sparse and well poisoned by social media personalities like gymbros

Like they could be getting fitness tips from fuckin tiktok

[dapper gyro]

Again, I don't do that just to anyone.

And no, I don't ask such people to gear up 0 to 100 neither.

I was underweight for a long time, I can't even do a pull up when I was 20.

My mistake to take abesity as an example, I thought that it is an easier one to visualize. It applies to people who don't want to try overall.

It applies to acoholic people, to addicts and many other things.

[lofty mason]

The high lords of terra can issue warrants of trade. Apparently, it's a popular tactic to "gift" one to political rivals then tell them to fuck off to one of the four corners of the galaxy.
LMFAO.

[winter pine]

These are usually super limited too iirc lmao

[lofty mason]

Also, how does naval officer to rogue trader pipeline works? I saw some Imperial officers got "promoted" to a rogue trader.

[winter pine]

The only real "I can do whatever I want" Warrants of Trade are the ancient ones signed by the Emperor or maybe one of the loyal primarchs afaik

[lofty mason]

Why do you promote a soldier into a merchant?

[winter pine]

Potential warlord getting too popular with the troops and big for his station

Send him off to die in the fringes of the void instead of cause trouble, I assume

[arctic talon]

Don’t want them to become a potential warlord

They show savy for this sort of thing

They have shown interest in becoming one

[surreal nest]

Can't tell if my tamiya glue is dying but I really do not like the chaos warrior kit 💀

[lofty mason]

ah. The good ol' 40k thing.

[arctic talon]

Are you applying too much

[surreal nest]

Doubtful

[arctic talon]

If it’s extra thin over application hates you

Yeah idk

[surreal nest]

Ive never had problems but the issue is all the arms are like

Tiny segments that u have to shove into crevices

[storm jungle]

Noble blood

the Imperial navy takes after IRL historic navies where many of the men were nobility

[median star]

also just noticed they left out the white scar from sm2 new pack thing

[storm jungle]

damn they really nailed the chubby mongol faces lmao

[lofty mason]

Still hilarious how you can "gift" someone a Warrant of Trade as a way to tell someone to fuck off 😂

[storm jungle]

I mean it makes sense

we got examples IRL of rich people giving their kids a small enterpreise on the other side of the planet so that they never see them again lol

[median star]

the equivalent of opening the doors to your gold mine thats all you can take but theirs secretly evil rapist inside

[arctic talon]

Administratum

[storm jungle]

Not L4D2.... 😭

[celest dome]

damn

will only be funny for Dilara I guess

[storm jungle]

👎

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-eddsworld-tom-eddsworld-laughing-tiktok-gif-17516035354207601087

[opaque coyote]

Glonk

[daring creek]

saving image.

Anyway

do they let you vape in the imperium

[lament shoal]

The place where the iron warriors do the thing

[surreal nest]

THEY GO SO HARD

Ok I will stop aos posting

[lament shoal]

is that skyrim

[surreal nest]

[rocky gale]

Damn they do go hard

[daring creek]

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[celest dome]

No, continue please

[surreal nest]

SIR YES SIR

[celest dome]

Darkoath right ?

[surreal nest]

Yesssir

I dont really like the darkoath models

Plus these are scaled pretty good

[celest dome]

So you're putting Slave of Darkness part in them ?

[surreal nest]

Yeah I'll be using them for S2D

Also for the darkoath spearhead

[rocky gale]

Are there some regular chaos warriors in there as well

[nocturne crest]

So odd question, but what are the chances GW kills off Bjorn?

[daring creek]

Any books focusing on the departmento Munitorum?

besides Imperial Munitorum Manual

[celest dome]

Bjorn Fellhanded

?

[daring creek]

The rusty walking mailbox yeah

[wet sandal]

There's a chance, but imo they'll come up with something to update him into redemptor scale

[hallow saddle]

bjorn is in a weird place cause he's an old box dread, narratively I think they could come up with a way to get him in a redemptor though if they wanted to

I don't see him disappearing completely, he's too good a charscter

[wet sandal]

Yeah and he does sell a lot for a box dread

[hallow saddle]

he should go in a contemptor dread tbh but they don't wanna mix heresy units into 40k

[celest dome]

Primarising a Dread

Think there are more chances to just seeing Bjorn get a more modern Chassis

[surreal nest]

Oh yeah the one in the middle is the marauder the left and right ones are chaos warriors

[rocky gale]

Are they AoS chaos warriors or are they Old World as well?

[wary fulcrum]

Could also be a spare child getting sent into the military to sort them out, then the spare becomes the heir

Having just finished House of Guinness, the youngest went into the military because there was nothing for him to do on the family business (and the drunken intrusive thought won)

[wary fulcrum]

They’re the aos ones

[wary fulcrum]

Don’t redemptors drive the occupants insane though?

I think it’s Parting of the Ways where we see Bjorn get interred, and I can’t remember if Russ designed his whole dreadnought, or just the sarcophagus, but if it’s the latter I can’t see Bjorn getting updated until Russ gets back and does it again

[hallow saddle]

yeah they do burn the pilot out, if gw wanted to though they could pretty easily handwave it away somehow

cawl makes a special redemptor

I think GW are still thinking about what they're gonna do with box dreads in general....

[wary fulcrum]

Like Primaris killing 1 in 3

[valid needle]

I think GW are dropping that whole thing

IIRC they just said it for cool factor

[rocky gale]

Yea it was probably a "this will be a neat detail" then after they realised that it kinda sucks and fucks over a lot of their potential models

So it will probably get a "that was a flaw which has now been corrected" type tidbit at some point

[raven stone]

Several ways...
(1) Genuine heroic deeds.
(2) "Kicked upstairs" promotion.
(3) Unexpected bloodline ties leading to a RT summoning them as successor (used by Owlcat's RT game and since GW keeps tight tabs on lore, this can be a thing.)
(4) Actual recognised offspring that was deliberately sent into Navy to "harden them up" before taking the position proper.

[raven stone]

TBF it is always in GW's power to say even something designed by Russ couldn't withstand the destructive powers of [insert name of weapon] , then use that as the excuse to update the chassis

[dapper gyro]

Like terminator... Because the armour is so popular that they rather keep it than introducing the missing primaris terminator concept.

Btw, the Centurion might get completely replaced by the invictor in the next edition.

Centurion is from 6e with bare minimum update and overlap too much with invictor.

[raven stone]

GW is not beyond noticing fan reactions…what chassis Bjorn would get will probably depend on how well GW thinks the fandom is receiving the Redemptor Dread. Which…I don’t think it’s that horrible a sculpt.

But yea, it is, as you point out, also possible GW just upscale the Boxnaught and call it a day.

[vagrant fox]

Selling a classic boxnought is probably good money so I can see that happening

[storm jungle]

No major character in 40k ever dies.

And no Chairon is not a major character. Shut up lol

[raven stone]

Pretty much only Horus, Emperor and Sanguinius are allowed to stay dead lol.

And even then...

[storm jungle]

Their deaths were also pre-destined/we knew was gonna happen anyway.

Then you got shit like Ferrus whos "dead" but talks with Sanguinius as a ghost lmao

[raven stone]

Pretty much if any one of those three come alive again, you will know GW is tanking either in lore quality, or financially

[storm jungle]

GW can never tank, they'll just make them for more money

[raven stone]

(or, heavens forbid, both)

[celest dome]

Their death preceded their lore exploitation

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah even Necromunda

Spoilers for the new book

||Athera, the Escher bodyguard twin, might be dead, it implied she isn’t but it’s vague about it, last we see if her shed had her arm cut off and is being curb stomped by Enforcers

Credo is a cyborg who may have multiple bodies she swaps her consciousness between

The prophet is a puppet controlled by a psychic Skeleton, Horne host gets blown up via bolt pistol but another scavenger picks up the banner after the battle and it starts again
||

[storm jungle]

Lmfao god Munda is so fucking based man

[dapper gyro]

Who is that guy again?

[storm jungle]

black guy in SM2

not to be confused with the asian guy

[dapper gyro]

Doesn't he die because there can only be 1 black sidekick to the main character?

[storm jungle]

or the white guy protaognist

[dapper gyro]

(Im joking)

You replied to fast it breaks my joke...

[storm jungle]

Peak skill issue

[median star]

but but but he was only the 78th named ultra marine that everyone also hated originally off the gate because he wasnt also a white man straight from agartha

[storm jungle]

LEGIT

Its hilarious how they praise the game for "not being woke" then instantly jump to being racist at Titus' teammates

🙏

[raven stone]

wait what's this about him being white originally?

[median star]

try reading again

[raven stone]

Oh right

yea

blind as a dingbat lol

[nocturne crest]

Is Bjorn really that major?

[raven stone]

It's really funny as well how they try to treat 40k Marine biology tech like cloning tech
"omfg Guilliman was white so if anyone takes Ultra geneseed as half clones they must be white"
Like...40k is science dressed fanatasy, bitch, it doesn't have to obey that nonsense lol

[median star]

hes more a comedic relief character everyone tries to make out as being super serious important imo

[storm jungle]

^^^^

So and so, he is loved due to Aura/Cool Moments

in reality hes a fucking bland ass character

[raven stone]

Bjorn has been retroacrviely made important by the HH novels as well, which probably doesn't help

Well, somewhat improtant ish

to the Space Wolf's arc at Prospero anyways

[storm jungle]

its hilarious tbh

they make him complain about hating dreadnaughts

then he ends up in a dreadnaught

truly tolkien tier writing

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[raven stone]

and then he starts to enjoy it :p

[raven stone]

I mean, all we are missing is GW actually inventing Low/High Gothic :p

instead of using Latin to emulate High Gothic

and English to approximate Low Gothic per se

[storm jungle]

too lazy for that

[jade holly]

In a universe of death and dismemberment you get to have extremely long naps, then wake up to do something you love and go back to having a nap

[silver veldt]

Merry Christmas brothers

[jade holly]

ITS CHRISTMAS EVE

[storm jungle]

same thing

woohoo christmas

[silver veldt]

Merry EARLY Christmas

[jade holly]

Pigs in a blanket for everyone

[raven stone]

Just for fun speculation and such
I personally think Low Gothic is Spanish based, and High Gothic is Latin based.
Just...for the obvious reason that IoM somewhat resembles the Spanish Empire in structure as a whole (Yes, IoM references every totalitarian regimes under the sun, but as it stands now it mostly resembles the Spanish Empire in attitude and structure. This hits a bit closer to home when you realise the Marines are the various Knight brotherhoods that reunited Spain, which led to Conquistadors and Inquisitors being things and the Imperium also has those.)

[median star]

merry chrysler

[raven stone]

Early Christmas to you too, brother Berry

[silver veldt]

Tyranids in a nutshell:
not even a perfectly cooked steak could satisfy theyre hunger

[raven stone]

The only thing the Hive Mind doesn't like is Necrons, and that is only because metal meals are bland :p

[wary fulcrum]

Bjorn isn’t napping

There’s a whole subplot that will probably get dropped about a siege in the warp/whateverfuckingdreamworld Bjorn is in when he goes back under

It takes longer to wake him up because he’s busy stopping the daemons eat the planet or some such

[median star]

so i know during great crusade and hh obviously the reason it was a thing but do terran born members for chapters still exist outside of fist in modern 40k

[wary fulcrum]

They do now due to Primaris

[raven stone]

Aside from the Primaris factor, IIRC Imperial Fist (first founding, granted) still has rights to recruit from Terra if they want.
I would imagine The Minotaurs (what with being High Lord's hit Chapter), and maybe Crimson Fists (same reason), have such rights too.

At a stretch, Red Hunters (for being the Inquisition's Chapter) could be given such rights if wanted

[vagrant fox]

3 hands, sus

[raven stone]

Whilst not a traiditonal chapter, Terranite born psykers could also end up in the Grey Knights.

[median star]

genestealers confirmed by dilaria live reaction

[median star]

make sticker

[spring cairn]

if genestealers become a thing in dt istg

[storm jungle]

we got that parchment decal

its joever

[celest dome]

The Curse of non-SM players, getting SM stuff as gift

[spring cairn]

yeah that thing was like a fucking jumpscare when i saw it

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

same

[celest dome]

The thing with the decal is thst how is are they gonna explain it arriving on those papers.

• Inquisition papers about Xanatos
• Moebian 53rd being revealed to be GScultists
• GScultist that are trolling and sneaked in the fort

[storm jungle]

👎 👎 👎

[celest dome]

Oh come on, are those not understandable questions

[wary fulcrum]

The other hive?

The one they don’t talk about

[celest dome]

Would have to explain it got from there to the Fort

[outer wave]

The Moebian 6th will be revealed to be former GSC that became part of the Nurgle cult for their freedom

[celest dome]

Before the Scab took over, or after

[raven stone]

eh? Wah?

[storm jungle]

It was discovered after VERY thorough arbites investigation as pictured here

[vagrant fox]

Gotta aim a shotgun at the paper just in case

[outer wave]

I wonder why that decal is found on chaos documents

[celest dome]

Ye, that's why I'm wondering how the decal appeared there.
Is it the GSC trolling, old papers from Xanathos...

[misty vector]

maybe someone doodled some runes on the genestealer section

[celest dome]

There is writing under the decal though

Doesn't look like the symbol was there at the start

[storm jungle]

^

yall mfers literally cannot make a sensible excuse for anything i swear

[wary fulcrum]

Could be a collection of local cult symbols?

Or the documents belong to the GSC and they’ve stamped their seal of approval?

[outer wave]

Id imagine it has to be former papers when the Moebian 6th were loyalist and the symbol was originally there

Easter egg trolling is funny, but I cant see Fatshark doing something like that, unless they've done this before

[dapper gyro]

Most people don't even know every symboles of the Imperium.

Let a lone the in lore population.

[outer wave]

No that is true, but isnt that moreso the civilian population?

Not so much the Guard?

[dapper gyro]

Like, you know, there is a SM chapter that use toilet seat as their emblem.

[dapper gyro]

The guards barely know anything better. If they are not deployed to a front against some kind of enemy, they might never know about them.

[outer wave]

Thought I heard somewhere that the guard were generally aware of GSCs, but maybe Moebians have fought against them before?

We need more content to find out

[celest dome]

Maybe unwittingly

[outer wave]

They had one too many threats that they had to throw a bone at the "GSC are in this game!" portion of the fan base

[vagrant fox]

Genestealer wastes in 3 years

Two hours with my family and I've heard more just straight up racist remarks than the rest of the year
Someone kill these people

[outer wave]

Christ

[young pecan]

✨ You can do it if your heart's in it ✨

[vagrant fox]

It's the 24th we're celebrating I can't ruin the mood

[young pecan]

Didn't they ruin the mood first

[vagrant fox]

Maybe for some ethnicities and people who don't want to hear that kind of thing on Christmas

[storm jungle]

When you're outnumbered in a gathering like that they'll always single you out as the weirdo that "ruined the evening."

[celest dome]

And lot of people still depend on their families, even if only a little bit

[storm jungle]

I do too but i also dont wanna hear how much my dad hates gay people lmao

[celest dome]

Yes, but it does put a halt to reacting to that.

[raven stone]

New speculation:

||Atoma is fully GSC compromised, and Moebian 6th was granted this knowledge by Nurgle for their servitude...as well as Nurgle's own agenda ofc||

||GSC cult is mainly HQ'ed in the rumoured 2nd Hive though||

||[this is so enemy types can be kept seperate]||

[celest dome]

I doubt that they would do factions thst are fully gated from each other tbh

[valid needle]

Like what for example

[vagrant fox]

Started out with all muslims are x y z

All two billions are exactly the same

Insert slurs of your choice

Civil war in England soon

[storm jungle]

LMAO

Yeah peak Default British Family, what the fuck else is new

[vagrant fox]

Sweden is lost, it was literally the chud meme

Genuinely disappointed they're so social media brainrotted

[storm jungle]

Relatable

english people say they hate muslims then go kebab eating in the afternoons

[jade holly]

Ngl, never had Kebab before. Is it any good?

[vagrant fox]

Very good

[jade holly]

I just know it as meat on a stick lol

[storm jungle]

Its great, especially if you go to an authentic muslim spot

they make the premium shit there

[jade holly]

Or is that something different I’m thinking of?

[vagrant fox]

I'll go tell my habibi Mehmed that he's a rapist when I get home. I'm not sure he knows being busy running his store

[valid needle]

I think sigs fam is Swedish

[storm jungle]

I mean same thing tbh

[vagrant fox]

Faroese, close enough

[outer wave]

I feel thats a big thing with some of those folks:

"I hate non whites!"
Proceeds to go out to eat food traditionally made by non whites

[jade holly]

Me to the Finnish person that I call Swedish

[celest dome]

Depend on where you go, but it's mostly OK

[vagrant fox]

It's all the same nordic autism

[storm jungle]

I love when british comedians joke about that shit

"I love english food! Like chinese and pakistani joints!"

[celest dome]

Love a good Kebab, but can't really find any good near where I live rn

[jade holly]

You know what I want?

Brisket

[vagrant fox]

Could go for a good kebab when I get home

[jade holly]

Damn Brisket looks good

Damnit I’m making myself hungry

[vagrant fox]

Good thing I'm eating soon, duck isn't bad

[jade holly]

I’m making brownies and Pigs in a blanket for Christmas later

[rocky gale]

The proud british tradition of ordering a chinese on Christmas Eve because you couldn't be assed cooking

[winter pine]

ogrynmaxxing rn

[hollow lantern]

I love that show

[jade holly]

The Emperor gives his biggest rashuns to his hungriest Ogryns

[hollow lantern]

I love a lot of British comedy tbh

[rocky gale]

Tomorrow I'll have turkey and stuffing etc, but tonight I shall dine on a spice bag

[winter pine]

"I love british food"
the food:

[vagrant fox]

Pey wet ain't a joke lad

I'm borderline obsessed with that wigan kebab video

[valid needle]

To be fair Christmas menu at the Chinese is fuckin bussin

Fuck I might try convince my GF to get one for dinner

[jade holly]

How cool would an Imotekh kitbash look if you made him float and used lightning from the Void Dragon to create a storm effect around him?

[misty vector]

Not scran…

[jade holly]

Trazyn doesn’t steal, he STEALs

Strategically
Transfers
Equipment to
Alternate
Locations

I took this from a comment I saw on a video

[misty vector]

He is neurodivergent and stealing stuff is his special interest

[jade holly]

Damnit

I think I’m starting to like Imotekh more than Szarekh

Nah I think I still like him more

[misty vector]

i gotta read more necron stuff

[vagrant fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555431261238198273/1446395867828326430/IMG_7667.png?ex=694ce11f&is=694b8f9f&hm=ffddeaf5ebbe27d372ef3339d5184e8245cf273325f553b41f455c57221dbbc2&

Wackass throne

[jade holly]

Damn comfy though

[burnt maple]

That supposed to be the Golden Throne?

[nocturne crest]

Is Bjorn the only named dreadnought as unit on the tabletop?

[vagrant fox]

Allegedly, from the Ashes of The Imperium

[burnt maple]

The design gets more weird with each iteration shown.

Would relics for DAoT even look gothic?

[rocky gale]

There's also Murderfang and Carab Culln

[vagrant fox]

I just wonder how Malcadors geriatric ass walked up to that thing

[winter pine]

40k equivalent of the End Times will be Trazyn somehow actually stealing this thing, I can feel it

[storm jungle]

Deffo matches the artstyle

[vagrant fox]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Blacklibrary/comments/1plinjk/ashes_of_the_imperium_artillustration/

Yea it's in there

[storm jungle]

Such a dumbass design

lmao

doesnt even look like a ziggurat

They definitely know to illustrate the lamest shit too

[vagrant fox]

In the most vague sense of a ziggurat I suppose it does but I don't like it

[storm jungle]

Yeah same

they tried to match the old design of the throne art but the artist just doesnt know their job i think lol

[storm jungle]

This is way better

[vagrant fox]

The daemon is the most interesting to me but I don't like it either

[storm jungle]

Yeah its just a generic daemon art

average bloodletter L

[outer wave]

This pic gives me a similar vibe to that one pic of the guy holding his hand up against a mirror with the reflection being a wolf man

"He's so me..."

[languid meadow]

looks like a halloween decoration

[vagrant fox]

Maybe the golden chair is just amorphous, thing just does what it wants

[languid meadow]

the boring answer is that every art piece is propaganda

the cool answer?

he's locked in a tube

[crystal forum]

i'm locked in a tube

[vagrant fox]

I did vaguely like the idea of the skeleton on the throne being a propaganda prop and the emps being inside the torment nexus

[crystal forum]

are you a tube sigsen

[rocky gale]

It's a cylinder

[vagrant fox]

Humans are basically just tubes with attachments

[crystal forum]

what's the difference

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wo-joker-joaqu-gif-23924191

[dapper gyro]

From the few things we know of, nope.