40k-lore-chat

[surreal nest]

But im just debating on the building more than 2 musicians bc of the reinforcement rules

40 miniatures so I can do 4 10 mans or 2 20

[rocky gale]

Think most people build 4 musicians because they can be done either way then

Since you don't actually lose anything from making them a musician

Like you won't gain any extra benefit to having 2 in a 20 man, just means you can run them as 20 or 10

[remote widget]

Did you know

The wh40k logo, isn't centred?

[valid needle]

Fuck it

[storm jungle]

thanks i hate it

[vagrant fox]

it's a reference to the chaos gods being evil

[rocky gale]

It's a subtle reference to me not caring

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1452721332587462798/ahhhh.gif

[vagrant fox]

I don't like that thing

[storm jungle]

Its just like you

tiny and freaky

[vagrant fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1027716679817502781.webp

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/vampire-awake-gif-13648027

You really don’t have to do anything since it has the alloptions for the darkoath mauraders and fellriders

[plush mason]

why did you do this to us?

[jade holly]

Wait wait wait wait wait wait

All this time

Malum Caedo was a FUCKING FIRSTBORN???

[plush mason]

yes

he is a legend of the sternguard

the sternguard being first company veterans

[arctic talon]

Fun fact it was never centered since the first iteration

AoS is the only centered warhammer logo

Anyways this is AoS and if it isn’t I’m killing myself

[plush mason]

this makes me unreasonably angry

just, why

[arctic talon]

[vagrant fox]

Just to get at dweebs

[celest dome]

Watch it be new Brimstone horrors /s

[arctic talon]

lol

If it’s new brimstones only

[rose thorn]

Insert dilara chart

[arctic talon]

I will be killing someone else

[arctic talon]

I’m ngl the fire doesn’t even look interesting

It just gives AoS vibes

With the like thing it’s projecting out of

[rose thorn]

There is a face in the fire

Hey are the 40K warhammer horror books like any good lmao

It seems like they might only be good if you are new to 40K

[celest dome]

The horns on the side make me think it is inside of a fire hearth

[rose thorn]

“Oh it’s a demon” or “oh it’s xeno”

[rocky gale]

Fire breathing Tyranid

[outer wave]

Only heard of the one Watcher in the Rain being good, dunno about others

[rose thorn]

Yeah i heard, mainly because of the twist

Is saying there is a twist a spoiler in 2025?

[honest trellis]

But yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh

canonically the rejects are getting massacred I think

the psykers have bling

[outer wave]

I have no clue, but probably not

[honest trellis]

so the 6th def had psykers

past tense

I imagine their new priests gave a bunch of suggestions

[jade holly]

Damn

I got myself obsessed over the idea of the Dark King and Star Child warring for control over Big E’s body

Which will lead into an Imperium wide civil war

[surreal nest]

Ahh ok yeah that adds up. I'll do that thank you

[rocky gale]

Yea since there's no restriction saying you can't have 2 in a unit of 20

Because they're 1/10, so it's a may as well either case

No downsides unless you don't like the way the musicians look I guess

[vagrant fox]

Yes 👍

[arctic talon]

They’re all pretty good

I like bookkeepers skull

Also dark coil as a whole has a ton of horror in it

But it’s its own thing

[vagrant fox]

I've had no opinions on Annandale but I like how he gets weird in Warhammer Horror

[jade holly]

I still can’t figure out if more Necron books besides The Infinite and the Divine and Twice Dead King exist

[vagrant fox]

Bleeding Stars might be decent

Short story though

[wintry cloud]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Honestly almost all of them are great, like 95% lol

they are like twilight zone episodes, tons of "Oh what the fuck" endings

[plush mason]

ye

[vagrant fox]

There's a twist in the House of Night and Chain I didn't that's straight up Twilight episode now you mention it

[honest trellis]

The body's cooked

[honest trellis]

For now yeah

GW's blood feud with mk 7 means they'll enshittify him

Internalized setting brainworms are wild

You can get people to agree with anything

just by making the viewpoint characters do

[lament shoal]

BOO!

[storm jungle]

Malum Shitdo deserves it

[lament shoal]

Primaris armor doesn't even look bad, stop whining

[hollow lantern]

Idk how to articulate how I feel about it outside "lacks charm"

[copper patrol]

more blood pact representation honestly, need more nonmarine chaos

[vagrant fox]

Brother I wish

[sacred ginkgo]

Damn this post anesthesia high is kinda non existant

[wet sandal]

Dear loyalist, you claim not to worship Nurgle, but your flesh is literally decaying at all times

Curious

[storm jungle]

Mid, Mid, Miiiiiiiiid

[storm jungle]

I legit cant believe these were Charlie Kirk stuff

i just assumed it was some ancient ass political thing

[languid meadow]

also ben shapiro

these are like from 2016 to 2022

[storm jungle]

two fascists in a pod

[wet sandal]

Primaris obviously looks better than firstborn though and everyone who disagrees is huffing copium

[languid meadow]

they do but the biggest problem with firstborn was their proportions

with that fixed (horus heresy) they look just a good imo

[lament shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

I will not be ragebaited

[wet sandal]

Horus heresy models do look good

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Its literally just firstborn armor with extra segments and exposed asscheeks

[wet sandal]

And entirely different proportions

[storm jungle]

"looks better" mfer they are new molds of course they look better

bad argument

L take

next

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-cat-shoo-biscuit-gif-8024642674144447563

[wet sandal]

Ok? So if they look better what's the problem with primaris. "Uuuuh the lore is... le bad" the lore was never good pipe down

[tiny nova]

What I don't like about primaris is they took common player strategies people would do with existing models and then make a full kit based on that, I just like the idea of a tactical squad with varied weapon loadouts

[arctic talon]

Primaris on the tabletop don’t even function like they do in lore

[honest trellis]

SHUN

[wet sandal]

That's fair, but more of a gameplay decision

Personally I don't mind it

[honest trellis]

The vibes are shit

[wet sandal]

Your vibes are shit

Stfu

[honest trellis]

They look like chatgpt

[wet sandal]

They look cool and firstborn look goofy

Enough said

[honest trellis]

firstborn art is infinitely better in every way

the only good thing about primaris is the scale

[wet sandal]

Idc about firstborn art

I'm talking about the models

[honest trellis]

Primaris are creatively bankrupt

lazy

[tiny nova]

I think Firstborn looking goofy is good because it's just further proof that the emperor was going to eventually make them go the way of the thunderwarrior after their purpose was served

[honest trellis]

the design is so bad even the video game tries to downplay the design elements so much as possible

[arctic talon]

That’s literally not true?

[wet sandal]

Crazy how they look better even while being creatively bankrupt

[arctic talon]

Whatever

[languid meadow]

I like... both

https://tenor.com/view/dog-silly-dog-propeller-dog-gif-1891484567429125876

[arctic talon]

500 more years of primaris discourse go

I’m so sick and tired of it

[honest trellis]

Compare the SM2 loyalists to traitors

[arctic talon]

I’ve been hearing this shit since 8e

[vagrant fox]

Not possible, pick a side coward fencesitter

[honest trellis]

I just want a firstborn kit from GW so I don't need to care about the shitty ai generated marines

[arctic talon]

Truth nuke

[honest trellis]

bigger marines have better proportions

news at 11

[wet sandal]

Primaris haters will forever continue coping because they lost

[honest trellis]

Primaris simps are just whales with no taste that will buy the same kit six times

[arctic talon]

They’re literally made by Blanche still 💀

[arctic talon]

All marine players do this

[honest trellis]

Blanche gave alpharius a red mohawk, the man can fuck up

[arctic talon]

Im going to be honest here

[honest trellis]

No like

[arctic talon]

No

[honest trellis]

there are repeats and then there's literally the same fucking kit no details changed

[arctic talon]

[honest trellis]

Primaris is a practical joke played on the fandom

[arctic talon]

Whatever I’m tired of this argument nowadays, I don’t even like marines that much

[honest trellis]

Like. My own hate aside, they literally just sell exactly the same intercessor/reiver

[arctic talon]

I’m just not going to engage

[honest trellis]

with a diff gun

[arctic talon]

💀

[honest trellis]

the older style changed up accessories and had more design variation

[storm jungle]

How about i pipe you down with an actual pipe

[wet sandal]

Ok but that has nothing to do with how the actual models look

[honest trellis]

they look bad

[storm jungle]

Too tacticool

another L take

[honest trellis]

the tacticool is a symptom

[storm jungle]

someone take this guy to Arkham Asylum

[wet sandal]

Being tacticool is cool actually

Cope more

[storm jungle]

no its not

you need to stop huffing copium

you are genuinely worrying me

someone disconnect his supplier

[arctic talon]

It’s all mine

I get all the copium

[tiny nova]

Anyway, I am bored and want to make a multi-leveled battlemap on a chaos corrupted feudal world, what kind of building/complex should it be?

[arctic talon]

Feudal world means cottages and more fantasy buildings and such

[wet sandal]

Why would I huff copium, the thing I like is winning. And dogshit firstborn is being phased out

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/OpDeathEaters/status/2003466191734505540?s=20 thought you all would enjoy this

Anonymous (@OpDeathEaters)

The Epstein files on the DOJ website allow you to highlight the redacted text, copy it, and paste it into another document, which reveals what was hidden. You can also press Ctrl+F and search for “Trump ” (with a space) to see his name appear more than 600 times. #OpDeathEaters

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[arctic talon]

If you want higher tech stuff make it some industrial adjacent things like a fancy windmill

[tiny nova]

Yeah, I am aware. I want a specific set piece and am looking for inspiration/ideas

[arctic talon]

Ah

[storm jungle]

"Erm primaris are cool guys ermmm "

[arctic talon]

I’d go with a castle or fort with a mix of archaic feudal world stuff

And like random imperium tech

[queen laurel]

aight homie give me some slime for that shit

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[wet sandal]

"le tacticool" no amount of buzzwords will stop them from looking cool and you from seething

[arctic talon]

Have a like cogitator next to a Ye Old catapult

[languid meadow]

erm yeah they look like GI Joes who are good guys

[storm jungle]

Not even seething kiddo, im helldiving and enjoying myself, im just here to pipe you down a bit and teach you some actual taste

[arctic talon]

Attack bike or primaris atv 💀

[storm jungle]

WRONG. COBRA ARE THE GOOD GUYS.

[languid meadow]

I like tacticool marines

unironically

[vagrant fox]

Needs a tollgate with a satellite on it that does nothing

[queen laurel]

ok Dilara get ready to hunker down someone might wander in here

[arctic talon]

Genuinely

Attack bikes are like

Supremely shit as a mini

But the ATV is as bad if not worse

💀

[hollow lantern]

I like tacticool stuff and they don't do it for me tbh

Like the Firstborn DW Vets were Tacticool

Primaris just

They exist lmfao

[vagrant fox]

The biggest mistake with primaris were hovertanks

True facts

[arctic talon]

Primaris are like

Pre 6e/7e non vet marine kits but new lol

Which is to say all the basic infantry look the same and use the same base mini lol

[storm jungle]

I like tactical stuff
they dont do it for me

[vagrant fox]

I'd like to see some more variety but also w/e I don't care

[storm jungle]

get out

[hollow lantern]

They're not tacticool

[near wasp]

[arctic talon]

More variety is happening as of Leviathan and also the space wolf shit

lol

Anyways

Admech release end of edition 100%

I’m not on cope

[vagrant fox]

I should maybe keep up with the tabletops more

[arctic talon]

Valrak slop has chosen me

[near wasp]

You are valraks strongest soldier

[arctic talon]

Much like how it has chosen me earlier with more eldar stuff

I’m not

I just copy the summaries

💀

I lowkey cannot stand his videos

[outer wave]

Ive been hearing about this; its wild how incompetent the DOJ or whatever is at doing their actual jobs

[arctic talon]

Might be intentional incompetence lol

For this

[vagrant fox]

Admech in this economy? GW needs profits they should release more space marines

[languid meadow]

I love admech but I would never buy their models because they kind of scare me

[outer wave]

You think those lower on the totem pole just want to release these in a malicious incompetent way?

Its possible

[arctic talon]

Yes

[vagrant fox]

It'd be really funny if it was the case

[outer wave]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Oh we’ll get more space marines

[vagrant fox]

It's inevitable innit

[arctic talon]

No like

We are getting more with the end of the edition prolly

lol

Chaos space marines rather

Corsairs vs corsairs

[wet sandal]

unfortunately teaching taste is impossible, as evidenced by noone teaching you any in your entire life

[near wasp]

Nobody can

[honest trellis]

What's funny is this is the cleaned up version

This is what they thought was completely purged of the receipts

[storm jungle]

Its good of you to practice telling this to yourself in the mirror, you'll learn one day

[honest trellis]

so that begs the question of just what evidence was already destroyed if this is what they thought was safe

[vagrant fox]

Doomrider return

[copper patrol]

real

[languid meadow]

why is it greyscaled

goner image

[storm jungle]

terrible

[rocky gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1452721332587462798/ahhhh.gif

[jade holly]

Well if Dark King gets too much influence then yeah, Star Child… idk

Personally, I want DK to win

[valid needle]

DK?

[jade holly]

Dark King

Not Donkey Kong

[vagrant fox]

This thing is so full of malicious energies I want it hanged

[valid needle]

Necrons are cooked if he does though

[jade holly]

Gonna be funny as Hell

[valid needle]

Infact everyone is cooked if the Dark King rises

Humanity included

[jade holly]

I linked a short yesterday in here that summarized how I wanted him to be

The idea being that the Ecclesiarchy’s fervent worship of him turned him into the chaos god that many feared

[storm jungle]

I really doubt its gonna end the entire universe

[valid needle]

Dark King is probably how they’ll end 40K and move on to the next iteration kind of like fantasy and AOS

[jade holly]

Tbh where do you go after 40K?

[storm jungle]

or if they'll ever even follow this plotpoint

[storm jungle]

Everyone is on their own

literally current 40k but the IMperium is shattered

lol

[jade holly]

Also what do people expect the Dark King to look like?

[valid needle]

Black

Smoke

Idk

[winter pine]

There was that alternate universe called "The Shape of the Nightmare to come" that kind of guessed what happens after 40k

[valid needle]

It’s the emperor

[jade holly]

cause I like the idea of the Emperor’s corpse reanimated as it is draped in ragged and torn cloth surrounded by psychic energy enveloped in a black smoke

[winter pine]

Fun but old and clearly something a fan wrote up

[valid needle]

So emperor plus black and Smokey

[storm jungle]

that fanfic is terrible because it doesnt understand the tabletop comes first

and that you need a reason/excuse for people to still play their armies

[winter pine]

yeah admittedly I read it at least over a decade ago now

[storm jungle]

same lol

[valid needle]

Oh well he would be fully regenerated, so he won’t be a corpse anymore.

[jade holly]

Nah

Emperor’s body is tattered and torn now

I don’t want it magically repaired

[valid needle]

Yes until he regenerates

[winter pine]

Can he even still regenerate?

[valid needle]

That is how it works

[valid needle]

Yes

[winter pine]

I get the impression the golden throne has just totally messed his mind and body up

[valid needle]

He can’t right now because he is fighting to keep the Astro on and the webway closed

[tiny nova]

Yeah his mind was very sound before going on the golden throne

[valid needle]

But if he stops or gets off the throne he will regenerate and possibly become the dark king

[jade holly]

Whatever he looks like, I find the idea that the “god” the Ecclesiarchy calls the Emperor was the beginnings of a chaos god they fed through worship and sacrifice. Making him the chaos god that feeds on hope and compassion

[valid needle]

I think he has always been a chaos god

[near wasp]

He's the god of conquest and fire

[valid needle]

I mean others say he is the god of order

[celest dome]

There is no hope or compassion that go or come from the Ecclesiarchy

[arctic talon]

He’s encroaching ruin

Smh

[jade holly]

Hope in being saved by the Emperor, compassion through their love for him

[valid needle]

wtf is encroaching ruin

[celest dome]

A Chaos Domain

[jade holly]

Very selfish versions of hope and compassion

[near wasp]

Compassion is just killing you most the time

His domain is the rusted city

[winter pine]

Part of the supposed emerging chaos pantheon

Was it a Horus Heresy rulebook that had those domains?

[near wasp]

Still vashtoor is cooler

[arctic talon]

Horus heresy pdf

• imperial agents codex

[valid needle]

Personally I think he has always been a chaos god and the Dark King is just him dropping the illusion he puts up of an angelic god.

[jade holly]

The short I watched had a quote that really hammered home what I want from Dark King:

“I am the god you made me, and you made a cruel and merciless god”

[valid needle]

No one has ever seen the emperors true face

I think when he nearly became the dark king was just his illusion dropping.

[jade holly]

I see the Dark King and Star Child as shattered fragments of his psyche

[storm jungle]

Youtube Short

cooked

[jade holly]

It was an animated comic dub thing rather than an actual lore blurb

I know it’s not canon

I just find their interpretation to be cool

[celest dome]

That does explain his "hope and compassion" take

[winter pine]

I just want confirmation on The Emperor being Turkish and if he met Asena the she-wolf

[storm jungle]

even worse

[celest dome]

Anatolian

[storm jungle]

you are getting propaganda'd

[jade holly]

Smh

[valid needle]

He was born in Anatolia or something

[storm jungle]

He was born in the bed of the Sakarya River, aka literally modern day Turkey

[celest dome]

Way before the Turkish identity was established

[storm jungle]

he was a Hittite yeah

[jade holly]

Didn’t he throw hands with a Void Dragon shard too?

[winter pine]

I keep forget he's way before that, oops

[arctic talon]

Bro is prehistoric

In a literal sense

[valid needle]

Lowkey would be cool if he had a Turkish or ancient Turkish whatever accent instead of a random British one.

[opaque coyote]

Hope granted by the blade
Compassion slicing through their bodies.

Only then will the Xenos, mutant, and heretic be forgiven.

[winter pine]

I am convinced short form video like Shorts and TikTok put holes in the brain

[vagrant fox]

Erda was Asena

[tiny nova]

A turkish delight is the emperor's mercy

[valid needle]

“Habibi Come to da palace” - The God Emperor of Mankind to Erda M30

[storm jungle]

we dont say "habibi"

uninformed fucks

thats arabic

lmao

[celest dome]

So Turkey is a country of ||Furries||

[vagrant fox]

You do now

[jade holly]

Give compassion to the Xenos by ending their malformed existence

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-turkey-map-turkey-flag-turkey-spin-country-gif-6213830421899144675

[valid needle]

Well what would yall say

[storm jungle]

[opaque coyote]

turkey

[vagrant fox]

How else do you explain the Space Wolves

[storm jungle]

Aşkım, Tatlım, Sevigilim, Kölem, idfk anything theres a lot

[opaque coyote]

Out of curiosity, what holidays does Turkey celebrate, and what do you think about your country?

[valid needle]

I imagine he used them all when rizzing up his perpetual baddie baby momma.

[storm jungle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_Turkey

[winter pine]

Big E Money seeing this video be like:

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/the-alpha-is-typing-sigma-beta-alpha-gif-15085961505239595360

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-turkiye-kaan-ozdil-ocean-gif-19328259

[opaque coyote]

didn't answer the second part

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-guy-turk-chad-fast-buff-gif-17075645

[opaque coyote]

thank u tho

[vagrant fox]

Chat has been turkified

[storm jungle]

Just like every person should, I hate my country

lol

wish i was in New Zealand instead

[jade holly]

Before I pull a stupid like how I forgot where the Incan empire was yesterday, Turkey counts as part of the Middle East right?

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

Asia and Europe

[jade holly]

Oh interesting

[storm jungle]

its right smack dab in the middle

[arctic talon]

It’s in southeast Europe

Approximately

[storm jungle]

but its GENERALLY considered a part of asia or middle-east

[opaque coyote]

divorce leads countries into dark places...

[vagrant fox]

5% in europe according to my arbitrary european borders

[jade holly]

The main thing I know about Turkey is the Ottoman Empire and how they butt heads with Greece

[storm jungle]

no

[opaque coyote]

yes

[arctic talon]

Fuck

You beat me

[jade holly]

Turkicentralism

[tiny nova]

Turkey is whatever benefits it most for any given topic

[valid needle]

Why so?

[vagrant fox]

But what about gay turkey, turkmenistan

[opaque coyote]

The Emperor was Anatolian, which is in Turkey.

[vagrant fox]

turk men in stan? Workshop it for me

[opaque coyote]

Therefore the Emperor is Turkish

[arctic talon]

💀

[jade holly]

But did the idea of Turkish as we know it exist then?

[opaque coyote]

And turkey is the best country clear-

[opaque coyote]

no lmao

[vagrant fox]

Turkey is eternal

[opaque coyote]

But the region of Anatolia included Turkey

[storm jungle]

Nationalism sucks and we just all wanna blow up each other even more

[tiny nova]

You can pretend to be european asian or middle eastern, but in reality we know the truth of Turkey's balkan nature, how else would the emperor be the ultimate war criminal?

[vagrant fox]

Being a shit dad too

[arctic talon]

Which Balkan country has the song about how their dad is a war criminal

[valid needle]

Ah that’s unfortunate

So here’s the question

[tiny nova]

wouldn't be surprised if it was Serbia

[valid needle]

If Big E was Turkish. Where is the palace meant to be? Compared to real life.

[storm jungle]

I mean

its in Nepal

[winter pine]

Was it the one from the 1990s?

[arctic talon]

No clue

[arctic talon]

The palace is in Nepal

[arctic talon]

The palace complex as a whole prolly occupies the entire modern nation of Nepal

[valid needle]

So mount ararat is Nepal too?

[storm jungle]

No

Ağrı Dağı is turkey

[jade holly]

Is the Golden Throne in Istanbul?

[arctic talon]

No

[storm jungle]

its way off

[valid needle]

You mean Constantinople?

I joke I joke

[jade holly]

Consistanbulanople

[storm jungle]

Same thing

idk why people get so caught up on the naming

its a boring ass metropolis

[jade holly]

It refers to the same place

[storm jungle]

I should know, i lived there for 20 years

[opaque coyote]

...

So basically the Emperor decided to execute all of the Thunder Warriors in the mountains of his homeland.

[jade holly]

We can call it Bob for all we care

[opaque coyote]

Huh

[storm jungle]

no

Im also gonna kill you there Laati

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177312780030853271/1452761836192796703/hampter.gif

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/battering-ram-hamster-hamter-gif-27601682

[valid needle]

I haven’t been to Istanbul personally but I’ve been to Antalya, that was pretty nice.

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-cat-cats-cat-hug-cat-love-gif-9176149428765300540

[storm jungle]

not much to miss in Istanbul

its like London with a Turkish skin

its busy as fuck

tons of traffic

lot sof sights but you'll never reach them

etc etc

[storm jungle]

way beter to visit the more cooler rural locations

[vagrant fox]

The ruins on ruins on ruins is neat, that's about it I've heard

[arctic talon]

Every big city ever

💀

[valid needle]

Wasn’t like that when I went

[daring creek]

Happy Halloween everyone

[opaque coyote]

I am convinced Hell is just a traffic jam that lasts forever

[storm jungle]

No like

Istanbul traffic is hell

yall got no idea

[spring cairn]

it's heaven actually

[vagrant fox]

Guy I know said about that much and he had a better time yachting away but I don't know personally

[spring cairn]

no rules

only the strongest may drive

[daring creek]

Not if you have a monster truck

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/truck-china-crazy-accident-traffic-gif-14539901

[daring creek]

[tiny nova]

I know its like top 5 on the planet for bad traffic

[arctic talon]

Jfc

[rocky gale]

I feel like that would be worse

[tiny nova]

Chicago is pretty high up on the list too

On average I think each year like 80 hours is lost in traffic here?

[rocky gale]

Like it's an old city, so there's probably lots of stupidly narrow roads to deal with

[daring creek]

There's no traffic if every car is flattened

[storm jungle]

^

its literally the roads thats the problem

and the government does nothing to fix it

its literally irrecoverable

[arctic talon]

lol

Taipei has worse traffic then Istanbul

Somehow

[arctic talon]

I see

[vagrant fox]

I imagine it's hard to fix for a car specific purpose
My solution is walking only zones

[tiny nova]

Drivers lose 118 hours each year driving in Istanbull due to traffic (average)

[arctic talon]

Honestly old cities traffic is always evil

[arctic talon]

I mean reducing car demand would make traffic less bad in any old city

[tiny nova]

Boston is really bad for that reason

[arctic talon]

The issue is people want their cars

[tiny nova]

Chicago is proof that adding more lanes doesn't help though

[copper patrol]

shits hard when the city has existed through what like 5 different empires/countries

[tiny nova]

More room to crash your car like an idiot

[rocky gale]

Old Cities...... Boston

[arctic talon]

More lanes is always a mistake

Lol

[daring creek]

No

More lanes good

More lanes means more space for cars

[tiny nova]

old cities that were designed for carriages, boston fits that bill with all the "historic" sites and such

[daring creek]

Bike lanes are so pointless in America. Like your chances of dying are so 50/50

[rocky gale]

Just funny when talking about Istanbul a city that's like 16 centuries old and then Boston comes up

[arctic talon]

Tbh it’s the same end result even if they’re centuries apart

[tiny nova]

I wonder how close boston is to original boston vs current Istanbull to original Istanbull

[jade holly]

Are the Leagues of Votann laconic in their culture?

[copper patrol]

not even comparable

well it is

[tiny nova]

I am sure Istanbull has been ran through enough times in it's 16 centuries

[copper patrol]

but like istanbul has been being built upon for so fucking long

it;s building ontop of build on top of building at this point

[daring creek]

We need more roads like this in Amerikkka

[copper patrol]

you can go in people's basement and see the layer of soil from the roman era

[winter pine]

This state part would look so much nicer with a giant road like that on it, for sure

[daring creek]

I bet its impossible to sleep living next to a fucking highway

[jade holly]

Come on, we just need one more lane to fix traffic

[daring creek]

Yep

[jade holly]

Just one more lane

[daring creek]

5 more lanes

[winter pine]

just one more lane bro and traffic is fixed...

[daring creek]

Infact

[winter pine]

just one more lane

[daring creek]

That whole area should be lanes

[vagrant fox]

This is terrible

[tiny nova]

I used to live like a block and a half away, it's not too bad

It really depends on what kind of infastructure you have to deaden noise

[daring creek]

At the mercy of the cities competence

[tiny nova]

not from the picture, but to a different highway

[daring creek]

Look at how it's fucking bottle necked

[tiny nova]

more than anything, being under a highway is what gives you hearing damage, more echo. Sometimes they try to put parks underneathe and it's a terrible idea

[rocky gale]

Like this is the kinda goofy shit you can find in old European cities, this is technically a road in London

[tiny nova]

Boston looks like that too sometimes

[daring creek]

💀

[outer wave]

Me in my tiny car going down the thin ass road

[daring creek]

Paper thin vehicle

😭

[tiny nova]

I got a paper cut closing my car door

[rocky gale]

I like that they put a post in the middle to stop people trying to drive through it, but still have the yellow lines indicating that it is a road

[daring creek]

How

[opaque coyote]

If I remember correctly, I think Prague is the name of the city?

[daring creek]

Is your car made of paper

[tiny nova]

It's so thin that it sliced my hand

[opaque coyote]

Like that is noted to be basically Los Angeles

in terms of traffic tier

and how unwalkable iti s

[rocky gale]

No it's Crawford Place in London

[jade holly]

Just watched a video on the Votann

They seem neat

But man am I not that big of a fan of their visuals

[winter pine]

love my funny dwarves analogue

[copper patrol]

I'm like almost there

[arctic talon]

The shit is a foot path lmao

[copper patrol]

half of it goes insanely hard the other half is just like

tf is this

[jade holly]

Their armor just seems like more bulky and rounded Tau style armor

[arctic talon]

I do not like their big armored dudes

The exo armor

I love the normal armor tho

[rocky gale]

The funniest part is the double yellow line is to indicate that you're not allowed to park your car there

[arctic talon]

Who the fuck is able to fit a car through there

A motorcycle I guess

[copper patrol]

a very drunk british man

[jade holly]

Eddie Hall

[rocky gale]

100% they had to put that post in the middle because people kept trying to drive through it and getting stuck

[languid meadow]

did chat see the cancelled warhammer mmo

https://mp1st.com/news/cancelled-warhammer-40k-mmorpg-jackalyptic-screenshots-surface

[rocky gale]

Another one for the pile

[languid meadow]

the burning of Prospero

[celest dome]

So there was both a AoS and 40k MMO in the work

And both ironically were cancelled

fun

[rocky gale]

Studios always underestimate how much work needs to go into creating an MMO that will actually attract and keep players.

Even after GW has like 8 failed Warhammer MMO's under their belt at this point

[winter pine]

MMOs aren't really novel anymore, I dunno why they keep trying to make new ones

The peak had to be over a decade ago now

[celest dome]

Cause WoW is just a money printer

And basically any MMO that manage to become stable can be the same

[languid meadow]

WoW, final fantasy, warframe, PoE

if you can get one to work

it's a lot of money

just look at SWTOR old as balls and still played

[winged jacinth]

Im reading the backscroll and come on just say you've never watched any of the old gundam series
This mfers mind would have exploded looking at Big Zam

[celest dome]

That person is not here

Thankfully

[winter pine]

malkavianamerican 🤔

kind of suspicious name

[rocky gale]

Were they smoted?

[celest dome]

He was an Imperium apologist

[winged jacinth]

Yeah this was a point in what was looking like a pattern of "umm this is/isnt like [thing] because [reveals they don't know anything about what they're talking about]" lol

gundams always look like samurai
the gundam mech in question

[humble shoal]

Show me the cool green guy

[storm jungle]

MMO in a place like this? I can see it already

[humble shoal]

Only gundam I like

[storm jungle]

I pick thousand sons

[winged jacinth]

Zaku?

[storm jungle]

I shoot at the space wolves

all I hear is "RDM RDM RDM RDM"

[humble shoal]

Probably

Never watched gundam

But he was cool

[storm jungle]

Why is he mewing

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-11905852304112868072

[valid needle]

Grand Masters can do that

That’s his official art too

[winter pine]

little known battle of the Horus Heresy on the world of RP Downtown

Who actually enjoyed DarkRP in Gmod? Lamest shit ever in a Source Game

[jade holly]

I want a faction or some subfaction of AI machines in 40K that are jut transformers

literally just them

[winged jacinth]

Its important darkrp admins had somewhere to vent their insanity

[storm jungle]

Nobody, yet everyone plays it

[copper patrol]

I've literally only seen it be fun with youtubers who are already funny and entertaining

[storm jungle]

its like life

[winter pine]

I only really played Trouble in Terrorist Town, I miss that mode a bunch

[rocky gale]

DarkRP is funny

[storm jungle]

The best part is Space Wolf users would absolutely be the type of dipshits to do that, imagine the admins telling you that you cant fight back against them or something during the Burning lmao

[valid needle]

DA have AI battle automata if that counts

[jade holly]

Do they transform between robots and war machines or guns?

[arctic talon]

I’m ngl the AoS rpg being made by Nexon gave me 0 hope

Because

It’s fucking nexon

lol

[storm jungle]

"You are breaking RP"

SIR THEY ARE BURNING MY LIBRARIES

[rocky gale]

Me and some friends set up a drug operation, but we were idiots and some guy broke in and was just like "Damn you guys suck at this" and then spent the next 4 hours teaching us how to do it properly and buying us better gear.

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-let-him-cook-cook-cooking-breaking-bad-gif-27522167

[valid needle]

I don’t know it’s not explored beyond they have them sitting in their vault.

[winter pine]

[valid needle]

The Ironwing also used AI war machines

[rocky gale]

My friend then got elected President and made us all his Secret Service, but there were 4 of us and only 3 Secret service job so it was first come first serve and I got there last, so as a civilian I glitched my way into the Presidential offices and started running around and hiding for about an hour while they tried to hunt me down and beat me with stun sticks.

Good times

[vagrant fox]

Hell no, no one did besides admins powertripping

I had some fun on that weird elitist taco n' banana by not taking it seriously

Having to do a job interview to play cops is really funny in hindsight

[tiny nova]

It's my 4th rooftop admin sit with magnus this week

[storm jungle]

bold of you to assume the admin isnt a guy in a Leman Russ model physgunning you instead

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-funny-ironic-gmod-rp-gif-20786714

[tiny nova]

I ran a dark rp server on gmod for 6 years, it would definitely be a Magnus player model, the donator class would be Leman Russ.

[vagrant fox]

Small rp servers were really funny, total server destruction over like 5 people feuding and dragging their friends into it

[tiny nova]

On a side note, dark rp and gmod servers are probably the scummiest cash grabs I have ever seen that take advantage of children. We took donations to keep the lights on but there are servers where there are kids paying over 1k for custom assets on servers and other servers where there are people grooming children. It's a very nasty game now

Like on the harry potter rp servers before they got taken down, there were staff/donators abusing their power on squeakers in really off putting ways. It's honestly the perfect example of power corrupting at a smaller scale, there are millions of people capable of becoming disgusting CEOs, waiting for the opportunity to do so.

[jade holly]

Like that one Reddit mod that mods over 200 servers and steals people’s memes then bans them if they bring it up?

I wish I was lying

[tiny nova]

Yeah interacting with the internet at large is a bad thing

[tough haven]

wish I had the image of the zealot screaming at the Seer and theres a thought bubble of him and the emperor holding hands
might be my favorite image ever

[vagrant fox]

There's some wackass people on the Internet who need a strong father figure

[dapper gyro]

The alcoholic kind? I can supply you.

[vagrant fox]

Like my dad who give you a cuffing and tells you in no uncertain terms to be normal

Alcoholic too, yes

[jade holly]

I was talking about what a new Trazyn model would have in another server and we came up with a new detachment idea: the Miscellaneous Menagerie

[opaque coyote]

Lion (the Primarch) would totally be the type to dine and dash

Even though he could pay it easily

[paper haven]

It's because he was raised by warp mutated jungle monsters

[jade holly]

Danse Macabre seems a pretty fitting term for Necrons now that I think about it

If you consider warfare and conquest a dance anyways

[copper patrol]

I am sure some fancy pants necron has said that at least once

[jade holly]

A Danse Macabre in the Silent King’s name, let them fall as the dance rages onward

[gloomy solstice]

As someone who knows nothing about 40k, what’s the difference between the god emperor and your average Psyker

[jade holly]

Psykers have tiers to them

I forget what they are all called

Lemme find the chart

[celest dome]

One is able to create a ball of fire and the other to break a planet

Actually average Psyker is more create a candlelight.

[outer wave]

Are psykers that manipulate fire that rare?

[winter pine]

Wonder which one of these my Loner Psycker is, maybe Zeta Epsilon?

[celest dome]

Nah, just use fireball as a easy depiction of their power

Pyromancy is one of the standard discipline.

[jade holly]

Yeah probably Zeta

[gloomy solstice]

Which tier are in this game

[celest dome]

Yes

[jade holly]

Someone like Tigurius is probably a Delta or Beta Psyker idk

[spark sorrel]

Hey guys i'm new at the lore and stuff, and watched some 40k loretubers. But can I ask what's Sgt. Morrow doing with the Inquisition? He said there's only one war that mattered in Armageddon, is he from the first war of Armageddon? The one where the Inquisition wanted everyone dead and the Space Wolves tried to save the people's lives?

[jade holly]

Zeta most likely

[spark sorrel]

Why would Sgt. Morrow help the inquisition, shouldnt he hate them or something?

[celest dome]

1st war of Armageddon is the Ork one iirc

[arctic talon]

He likely got picked out pre purge

[signal bramble]

He’s been psychically conditioned.

[arctic talon]

^

[outer wave]

Theres lore that talks about him in the Mortis Trials, but basically: he was contacted by the inquisition during Armaggedon to join them, but never did. He was taken and put into cryo sleep and Rannick only found him somewhat recently.

[arctic talon]

Also that

His minds been tampered with by sefoni heavily

[spark sorrel]

Haha, Darktide is all over the place

[outer wave]

Also yeah his mind might not all be there

[copper patrol]

also it's the inquisition

you don't really get to say no

[outer wave]

Mhmmm

[signal bramble]

And Rannick even says he’ll probably have her do more to Morrow’s brain as well in another Mortis trial memory.

[outer wave]

Also reasoning for him getting into contact with an inquisitor in the first place? He took out a corrupt commissar before he could do any lasting damage to his regiment.

[winter pine]

Mortis trials sounded like it has some great worldbuilding for the Mourningstar crew

[outer wave]

It does

[spark sorrel]

What's so special about Morrow then? He doesn't seem to be that... idk very unique

[copper patrol]

||chaos corrupted|| specifically

[spark sorrel]

oh so this is the reason?

[jade holly]

He’s not phased by anything

[winter pine]

Think it might just be he's a very skilled general and wrangler of a force of press ganged convicts

[outer wave]

He's a perfect spy: he says yes to any order while also able to do what needs to be done on the down low. Its how he managed to take out that corrupt commissar in the first place.

[signal bramble]

He’s a solid dependable leader with a strong sense of morality that stepped up to do what was right. Killing a commissar is a huge deal.

[outer wave]

Also yeah hes a good leader

[jade holly]

Bro could watch Guilliman walk up to him and he’d just go “What’s all this now?”

[copper patrol]

Innit

[outer wave]

"Can I help you, sir?"

[jade holly]

Ah, you’re back

[winter pine]

Guilliman in nervous awe of turning a bunch of stimhead criminals into daemon stomping elite squads

[jade holly]

THEY KILLED HOW MANY BEASTS OF NURGLE IN ONE OPERATION??

[spark sorrel]

While we're at it, what's with Guilliman and the 500 worlds huh? A youtuber implied this is almost like implying he's getting ready to seccede from the imperium

[copper patrol]

they killed a beast of nurgle with a what? a sharpened pair of scissors?

[storm jungle]

You need to not listen to youtubers

its literally a liberation campaign lol

theres no "seceding"

[winter pine]

Alterate history version of the Heresy were a few Ogryns hit Horus in the head so hard with the rock he dies

[jade holly]

If anything he’ll take it over from the trash ass Eeclesiarchy

[storm jungle]

theres nothing to take over

Ultramar and its realms belong to the Ultramarines

[spark sorrel]

Throughout the game though I don't really feel anything from Morrow more than the others, I mean he's interesting for sure, but it's not like he cares about the rejects any more than Hadron or Rannick

[winter pine]

Why didn't the Emperor just send a team of Darktide Ogryns? Is he stupid?

[storm jungle]

I mean he does

[outer wave]

^

[storm jungle]

have you been listening to the stuff he says

[copper patrol]

Rannick couldn;t give any less of a fuck

[storm jungle]

"They are only Rejects when they can hear me."

hes an absolute team dad

[copper patrol]

Hadron idk sometimes,

[spark sorrel]

oh I didn't know this ?

[outer wave]

He's basically that boss thats hard on you during work, but off hours and at a bar, hes chill to drink with.

[winter pine]

Hadron tries to hide it I think

[copper patrol]

I think she enjoys it to some extent

[jade holly]

Morrow is the dad that stepped up, Hadron is our grumpy gun loving Grandma

who secretly enjoys spending time with us when we visit

[spark sorrel]

Still makes me laugh that in the lastest mission, if the rejects complete the objectives she's basically like "I'm very proud of all of you, I take full responsibility"

[storm jungle]

You need to play some of the later missions with him as the vocator, its all pre-scripted randomized dialogue theres a ton of stuff he says.

For example he personally confided in Grendyl and vouched for us as a team to remain which is kinda huge and not something he does for everyone.

[jade holly]

Speaking of Grendyl

What’s that lunatic’s next big idea

[outer wave]

He also calls us the same thing as he did to his former squad: his No Hopers

Theres definitely some amicable connection there

[spark sorrel]

I'll do that then. Just bought this game two weeks ago. Better than I expected. And the music is just... unexpectedly good too

[jade holly]

Jesper Kyd

You ever play Borderlands 2?

[spark sorrel]

oh that's interesting

[spark sorrel]

Sorry I don't like any of the Borderlands game, don't like the gameplay foremost

[winter pine]

Somehow contacting Eisenhorn to deal with an imminent genestealer conflict

[jade holly]

Then nvm

[storm jungle]

Oh man yeah that explains it, the game has as per the devs over 95,000+ voicelines/banter from all the characters.

The game has been out for 4 years and theres still interactions people have sometimes never heard of between players

[spark sorrel]

man that's insane

[storm jungle]

thats what you get with such a huge cast of talented unknown voice actors, you can get them back almost any time compared to useless celebrity or famous VAs

[outer wave]

Think I heard part of a conversation today between the Heavy and Authoritarian that the Heavy is abrasive because he wants respect.

[winter pine]

I really like the new dialogue with the commisar and bragadious knight commander on the hourglass mission

Want more of that dynamic tbqh

[jade holly]

Not to mention the line are completely golden

[spark sorrel]

I played during the free weekend, I enjoyed it and my PC could handle it well, so I bought it and the Arbites DLC. I chose the Maul voice, and I don't regret it. Both Badass and Unintentionally hilarious

[jade holly]

“Watch, learn, then shoot yourself”

[storm jungle]

You probably bought the game at the best state imaginable

some of us have been here since launch, the state of the game rn is fantastic

[outer wave]

Favorite is still when Bully witnesses someone getting eaten by a BoN:

"Hahahaha!! NOMNOMNOMNOMNOM!"

[copper patrol]

💀

I remember old crafting

[spark sorrel]

You might be right, this game is really fun. I'm glad I bought this, no regret at all.

[outer wave]

I remember old crafting

[jade holly]

One of my favorites is the Fanatic killing a sniper

“No more Sniper, alas alas”

[storm jungle]

Enjoy yourself and stick around for as much as you want pal 🫡

[copper patrol]

Fanatic my beloved

[spark sorrel]

Well, at the first few days I kept having backend connection issues, I thought I was going to be one of those that complained about unresolved connection issues - almost made me not go with buying it

Somehow it fixed itself though

and I can play with no desync in a while

[copper patrol]

oh the connections issues are a fatshark thing

[winter pine]

Was taking a break with Arc Raiders but ngl I want some more heretic krumping soon

[jade holly]

I’m still waiting for a Tech Priest class

[spark sorrel]

think it was related to the free weekend thing?

[storm jungle]

The game has a ton of shit going on due to how massive it is yeah so those errors still happen here and there but they always go away.

[outer wave]

Sadly theres some instability issues. If you ever have some, look around on the forums (tentatively because they can be VERY toxic) or the subreddit (ditto) for tips if you're crashing or dealing with frame rate issues.

[copper patrol]

somewhat that, somewhat just servers being what they are

[spark sorrel]

thank you for the suggestions guys

[storm jungle]

Also someone checked out the programming for banters and some happen under EXTREMELY specific circumstances, related to health, if the personality/player helped you or did something specific or not etc

its autistic af

[vagrant fox]

It's probably a busy time of year is all

[storm jungle]

also yeah that

[outer wave]

Holy shit I never knew that!

Good ol Euro autism

[storm jungle]

Same, it probably explains how its been 4 years and people still hear new banter lines

[vagrant fox]

I've still not heard half of the medicae servitor lines I'm sure

[outer wave]

I guess I have to get into weird positions to hear everything

[jade holly]

Does anyone have a screenshot of that new set of minis painted as IW for the Horus Heresy?

I don’t know what that is actually called

[copper patrol]

there is a crazy rare line from the professional where he talks about seeing what I assume is a daemon of khorne in a dream

[spark sorrel]

A lot of banter keep repeating though. Like with the cadian veteran and the other veteran "Gotta admit, you're pretty good at this!" "That's high praise coming from you!"

[copper patrol]

i've literally only heard it once

[outer wave]

You get alot of that yeah

[copper patrol]

the killing spree dialogue gets a lot of repeats yeah

[outer wave]

Sometimes you even get a character trying to start a conversation, but no one follows up

Or it gets swamped out by the announcer

[spark sorrel]

"I wanna kiill something" "That's normal, right?" "YEEAA"

[spark sorrel]

yeah, this happens. feels bad when it's something I never heard before and wanted to hear

[outer wave]

Same

That earlier example I talked about bugged out so the Heavy didnt respond back for some reason, but the conversation kept going

[storm jungle]

Yeah killing spree ones are the ones you'll hear the most

banter is different where its actual dialogue

will mostly last between 5-7 lines between two characters

[outer wave]

I HAVE MUCH TO TEACH, IF YOU WISH TO LEARN

WATCH, LEARN, THEN SHOOT YOURSELF

[copper patrol]

I am pretty sure there are some lines that only appear while leveling too

[storm jungle]

YEP

Theres actually a lot lof level dependant dialogue

which is a huge shame

[copper patrol]

like Fanatic starting being nicer to ogryns etc

[spark sorrel]

woah wait a minute, in the darktide fandom wiki, it says Morrow is from the 2nd war of Armaggedon

[vagrant fox]

Sounds about right

[copper patrol]

I remember hearing the " do abhuman's have souls" converstation alot early on in DT's life

[outer wave]

He is from the war where World Eaters got involved on Armaggedon

Least from what I know

[outer wave]

I remember hearing so much of Morrow going off about how Tertium is a bit o' a wondah

[spark sorrel]

Oh so it's not from when the Space Wolves butt hjeads with the inquisition?

[outer wave]

I dont know my HH lore well, so it could be?

[storm jungle]

Second War is Ghaz

First War is Angron

[signal bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

[storm jungle]

Also yeah thats because it was pre-mortis trials where we got his backstory s othats wrong lmao

one of the "downsides" of a story and cast that evolves with updates

[outer wave]

Were orks ever encountered on Armaggedon before or during the first war?

[signal bramble]

Yes yes they were.

It used to be a major ork world.

[spark sorrel]

Ah, alright thanks for clarifyhing

[signal bramble]

Ullanor iirc.

[copper patrol]

it's Ullanor right?

[signal bramble]

Ye.

[copper patrol]

not sure if it's just implied to be or is outright stated though

[outer wave]

I remember when the Dark Ritual and story update came out, people were complaining about the plot hole of how Rannick didn't know about the Admonition earlier

[storm jungle]

Yea its Ullanor

its outright stated

it got teleported to where it is now

[copper patrol]

wuh

[outer wave]

I like that they kept it to him being kinda dumb

[lament shoal]

don't trust fandom, like ever

[storm jungle]

Unknown to the greater Imperium at large, Armageddon was in fact originally the world of Ullanor, made famous by the Ullanor Crusade during the time of the Emperor. 1,500 years after the Horus Heresy during the War of the Beast, Ullanor became the capital world of The Beast and was thought destroyed by the Mechanicum. In truth, the Mechanicum simply teleported Ullanor into the Armageddon System.[8]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Armageddon#First_War_of_Armageddon

[jade holly]

Finally found the image from earlier in this channel

[copper patrol]

" In truth, the Mechanicum simply teleported Ullanor into the Armageddon System" wuh

why

[vagrant fox]

You question the logic of the beneficent Adeptus Mechanicus?

[winter pine]

I think it was fascination with some of the Ork technology

[copper patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1452721332587462798/ahhhh.gif

[spark sorrel]

I didn't know the Mechanichum could just teleport planets

[outer wave]

Didnt know that either

[copper patrol]

they normally can't pretty sure

[storm jungle]

they cant

they were obsessed with the ork telyporta tech in teh war

LMAO

also fun fact

[vagrant fox]

Just turn on the ork tellyportas and send it somewhere other than the sol system

[storm jungle]

they tried to teleport Mars away using it because they thought Terra was fucked

which is fucking hilarious

[jade holly]

Does every faction have their own Gestalt field?

[copper patrol]

OH, ok that ties it together

[storm jungle]

No they dont

[jade holly]

I know Imperium have Faith and Orkz have the funny Ork thing

[storm jungle]

Orks and Nids do

Faith isnt really gestalt

[copper patrol]

the funny ork thing and nid thing are a bit different then warp stuff

[storm jungle]

Orks are pure Warp

they are a psychic race

just not on the level of eldar

Nids are more non-corporeal as they all serve and share the Hivemind

if a Gaunt sees you that means the entire tyranid hive would know where you are

etc

[copper patrol]

there warp stuff kind has it's own rules though I thought

[storm jungle]

Nah they are fully Warp

because Gork and Mork are literally in there

[copper patrol]

fighting all the time

[storm jungle]

so the Orks just like humans with Faith get their own psychic monopoly

but the orks is much more dominant

as they are all somewhat interconnected due to it

whereas humans arent

[outer wave]

How many entities make up the Hivemind exactly, and do individuals simply return to the Hivemind when they die?

[copper patrol]

unknown and unknown pretty sure

[outer wave]

Sadge, but expected

[winter pine]

I think this is entirely unexplained

[storm jungle]

A hivemind is a single entity.

its just gigantic

[jade holly]

Meanwhile Necrons are completely no warp lmao

[copper patrol]

there is hints at there being splinters of it or something

[jade holly]

in fact they set up an entire system that negates Warp effects

[copper patrol]

but nothing really concrete to state that there is multiple hiveminds

[storm jungle]

The hivemind controls EVERY SINGLE tyranid organism in the milky way, it isnt a physical thing, its corporeal you cant see it because its literally between every tyranid being in existence

its a single "being"

[outer wave]

Oh I thought Hiveminds were individuals for each Hivefleet

[storm jungle]

Nah its the same entity

[outer wave]

I see I see

[copper patrol]

you mean the Norn queens?

[storm jungle]

a Hivemind wouldnt be a hivemind if there were multiple

[jade holly]

Does the Nids have any actual named units?

[storm jungle]

Some

[daring creek]

hm

[outer wave]

Old One Eye is one

[daring creek]

If its just one entity

is it atleast a person or

[queen laurel]

Death leaper

Swarmlord

And old one eye

[jade holly]

Old One Eye vs One Eyed Magnus

[outer wave]

Its probably equivalent to a god but not warp based nor with the actual abilities of an actual god

[vagrant fox]

🗣️ The Doom of Malan'tai

[jade holly]

Speaking of gods who’s the strongest C’tan?

[outer wave]

Wouldn't be much of a fight, unless there were multiple Ol One Eyes

[copper patrol]

thought the hive mind has expressed hatred towards a singular person before

[jade holly]

Mag’ladroth?

[copper patrol]

but I remember people not liking that lore

some eldar pissed it off a lot and it threatened her

[storm jungle]

A hivemind is a hivemind

its a collection of things

its basically in the name itself

[dapper gyro]

I was in a GW store, with their big poster. I look at it and remember like Dilara's remark, the modern shit looks too clean.
Things look like they are posing for a picture rather than in the middle of action.

[vagrant fox]

afaik Tigirius and Mephiston both connected with it and confirmed it just hates everything ever

[daring creek]

Frankly I was wondering if there was any actual character to be pry'd out of tyranids beyond just ravaging

[jade holly]

I just realized what I want in the Necrons

[hallow saddle]

the good thing about the models is that u paint them urself

[jade holly]

General Grievous

[hallow saddle]

so paint them grimy

[dapper gyro]

Gravemind in Halo is also a single entity.

Despite making up of the biomass from many other sentient beings. The gravemind is the same one that corrupted the galaxy before the rings were built.

[storm jungle]

I think he means the artwork

[jade holly]

Is there any Necron who’s similar to Grievous?

[storm jungle]

Imotekh probably

[vagrant fox]

The very cool OC you make for your dynasty ☝️ 🤓

[storm jungle]

minus the goofy ass cartoon shit

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/general-grievous-clone-wars-clone-wars-2003-lightsaber-gif-7321145832527776152

[jade holly]

2003 Grievous was the shit

Goofy my ass

[surreal nest]

Does GW still sell war mammoths?

[jade holly]

He was the damn boogeyman

[vagrant fox]

Whyd he do that he has 4 arms

[jade holly]

He didn’t need to reveal them yet

[storm jungle]

I meant the clone wars one lol

[jade holly]

Why reveal the ace up your sleeve when you have the upper hand

[vagrant fox]

This is why Shaggy escaped

Goofin around like that

[storm jungle]

Escaped??? HE GOT SMUSHED

[jade holly]

Ummm…

He was the first to die

Lmao

[vagrant fox]

How else did he do Scooby Doo afterwards 4head

[jade holly]

I think Grievous post 2003 works best as an ambush assassin character

Funnily enough Battlefront 2 made him exactly that

[storm jungle]

Ah yes

the negotiator

[jade holly]

“I have been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dookuuu”

gets shot in the heart

[storm jungle]

man

too soon

[jade holly]

https://tenor.com/view/general-grievous-star-wars-clone-wars-seperatists-villain-gif-24892836

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-shaggy-general-grievous-death-squish-gif-5804374746551392971

[jade holly]

POV: Inner Circle DA trying to charge a Skorpekh Destroyer alone

[opaque coyote]

Grevious is so sad since his back stories in both Legends and the Disney canon (which are basically the same) are great.

He had so much potential and yet he was designated as comic relief

[dapper gyro]

To bad the dude got killed by force enhanced blaster shots.

[jade holly]

I mean that’s the point with him. Each of the villains in the prequel trilogy are meant to be a mirror to Anakin

[dapper gyro]

The force can deflect shots and also gives you true aim.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but unlike Vader, he doesn't have that threatening presence.

Part of the cool thing about Darth Vader is that even if you only watched the three original movies, he's clearly somewhat disabled.

His breathing, both an intimidation tactic, but also similar to those in the ER.

His stiff movements (although it's probably not intentional)

[opaque coyote]

Etc.

Like it's clear that he isn't in his prime. The stiff movements, the ragged breathing, etc.

But that's also terrifying since despite the fact that Vader isn't in his prime. He still is a threat that everyone tries to go around if they can

And whenever he does show up, until the final battle all they can do is RUN

Grevious lacks that fear factor of sorts

[dapper gyro]

Stiff movement, yet killing with efficiency.

[jade holly]

The argument for this is he’s not a dark side powered force of nature after he gets crippled by Mace Windu. He has to resort to being an ambusher than a force of nature (that and George Lucas nerfed him to Hell)