40k-lore-chat

[vagrant fox]

Which commissar was it mentioned yesterday who executed a guardsman who survived an ambush for having spent no ammo

[storm jungle]

Not even a medic, it was a normal guardsman dragging a comrade back during an artillery barrage and Wolfer watched him shoot the guy

[storm jungle]

Raine, the female postergirl commissar

Yes.

the Imperium doesnt reward sense, it rewards cruelty and unquestioning dimwittedness

[vagrant fox]

ah yes

[humble shoal]

swore it was a medic which makes it even worse

[storm jungle]

Doesnt matter in their eyes, "not one step back"

[humble shoal]

yup

[daring creek]

[humble shoal]

there are 3 commisars in darktide

[daring creek]

Eisenhorn is very kind then

[humble shoal]

all of them are assholes

[storm jungle]

Oh hes super kind

[humble shoal]

cain is a saint

[storm jungle]

[humble shoal]

because his gf is glwoing him up

[plush mason]

||literally in the first few pages of Xenos he puts his stubgun down the throat of a heretic and fires, very kind indeed||

[storm jungle]

She'll see soon

[humble shoal]

kind

you still on the first book missus?

[daring creek]

Okay hold on

[vagrant fox]

wow thats spoilers don't read that

[storm jungle]

Got em

[daring creek]

||Eyclone literally intentionally opened up those cryochambers and caused them to wake up too early and sacrfice those souls to pontius glaw to resurrect him...somehow. And it wasn't his own stubber. It was his associates weapon. He literally avenged her. ||

I don't remember the death count

[storm jungle]

You're a good man, Gregor Eisenhorn...

[daring creek]

||But there was a woman begging Eisenhorn for help. He would've shot her dead because she was suffering. I think her skin was melting||

[storm jungle]

[daring creek]

KIND FOR AN INQUISITOR

[misty vector]

Surely he would never cross a line

[storm jungle]

Man

[daring creek]

[storm jungle]

You're a good man, Gregor Eisenhorn......

[copper patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-smile-reaction-animal-whiskers-gif-11804569840536280540

[daring creek]

I'm like 200 pages in. Baaah

[crystal forum]

egg

egg

egg

[daring creek]

Eggs?

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

egg!!!

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/fulanoide-memes-gif-25260009

[crystal forum]

EGG

[daring creek]

Well atleast I know Eisenhorn is going to do something bad or smth

Either way

[vagrant fox]

no he's kind

[daring creek]

It will be entertaining!

[misty vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139339368327286856/1402260391198855258/mossyseals_-_1952453960582807811.gif

[crystal forum]

40k character doing something bad? 🙀

[humble shoal]

kind of a dick gottem

[crystal forum]

i am shocked

shocked i say

[storm jungle]

"know"

bro

[vagrant fox]

no the emperor was kind

[storm jungle]

this girl is cooked

[crystal forum]

i fucking love seals

[daring creek]

EXTRA BAD. OR WHATEVER.

BAAAH

[vagrant fox]

canadoid statement

[daring creek]

Were you not implying that

[crystal forum]

no i dont want to kill them

[misty vector]

https://tenor.com/view/aguhiyori-agu-seal-agu-cute-seal-seal-clap-gif-7994364550587801526

[crystal forum]

i have never seen a seal

[misty vector]

So seally

[crystal forum]

because canada is fake

none of us live in the north

[humble shoal]

I've given one a pat

[valid needle]

Seals are cool

[daring creek]

Their skin is rough right?

[humble shoal]

he accepted a pat for some processed fish

[vagrant fox]

when I lived in Greenland in an apartment block my upstairs neighbour would hunt seals and skin them and leave it to hang on his balcony and it'd drip down on our balcony and I've never forgiven seals since

[humble shoal]

sorta

[crystal forum]

you're not supposed to touch seals because of germs i think??

[valid needle]

My GF and I went to aqua land and she got to go meet them and one called Bruno gave her a kiss.

[crystal forum]

i thinks seals are very germ ridden

[humble shoal]

that is possible

[daring creek]

Germs? I'm built different

[humble shoal]

he came up to me and it felt required

[crystal forum]

unlike dolphins where touching them i think degrades their natural oily skin or smth

[valid needle]

Wild seals sure but ones who are being looked after will be fine

[crystal forum]

who keeps a pet seal

[young pecan]

Not a pet, but zoos

[valid needle]

Aquariums and aquatic people

[crystal forum]

"check if the seal has a collar"

i just know you're not allowed to touch wild seals

[daring creek]

I grabbed a rat in my apartment once

And won

[crystal forum]

for whatever reason

i grabbed mice too

when i worked in a reservation

[valid needle]

Absolutely wild

[crystal forum]

with my bare fucking hands

[daring creek]

And got bit

But I went to the ER and I'm just fine :p

[crystal forum]

i wore my tactical mechanix gloves smh

[humble shoal]

asnd I did it right by noaaa

[crystal forum]

was it in california

[humble shoal]

no

[crystal forum]

where then

i need to

[humble shoal]

northeast

[crystal forum]

hunt you down

[humble shoal]

[crystal forum]

seal team 6 is coming for you

get it

[humble shoal]

likely out of atstute of limitations

[valid needle]

I think dolphins like the attention

[vagrant fox]

Another gay jay moment

[humble shoal]

since it was over 10 years ago

[crystal forum]

im quite intoxicated

[humble shoal]

fireball

[crystal forum]

no

vodka

[crystal forum]

idk i never met a dolphin

[vagrant fox]

I've heard dolphins are perverts

[crystal forum]

my general rule is treat all wildlife like it wants to kill you

never approach it

this is good for both you and the animal

[storm jungle]

🪞

[valid needle]

Dolphins seem very curious

[daring creek]

Dolphins remind me of the strange case of dr jyckl and mr hyde

Mr sam hyde...

[storm jungle]

they are complete psychos

[daring creek]

Because I always imagined mr hyde looking like that sergeant from Inside job

[daring creek]

Are they in comparison to other mammals

[humble shoal]

unironically dolphins

[daring creek]

Or even animals in general

[daring creek]

Dolphins are not the only ones you know

[humble shoal]

I know

otters too

[daring creek]

Well.

[young pecan]

Pink river dolphins

[storm jungle]

Yes

[humble shoal]

dolphins are very smart

[young pecan]

Do NOT ask what they do to fish they catch

[storm jungle]

Ducks are also worst

Like, to give you an idea

[dapper gyro]

All of them sound delicious.

[young pecan]

Literally evolving in an arms race to SA better and make your vagina a maze to be SA'd less

[winged jacinth]

Ducks were the first case study of what evolutionary biology calls a "genital arms race"

[storm jungle]

Duckban Penis Crisis

[humble shoal]

dont forget the worst part ||the males penis will fall off, and it regrows based off of relative competition in the area||

[dapper gyro]

This one has some parasite, you have to cook very well done before consumption.

[young pecan]

At least we don't have any mammals that do what ticks or bedbugs(?) do

[humble shoal]

bonus: ||barnacles have the highest penmis to body ratio||

[dapper gyro]

Don't you want to be a part of your partner?

Forever!

[winged jacinth]

Cetaceans are maybe unique besides humans in their ability to be intentionally cruel

[young pecan]

I don't want to impale my partner's back with my penis, no

[vagrant fox]

bunch of dang poiverts in this chat smh

[winged jacinth]

There's snails that have what are called penis darts

[humble shoal]

all of the statements I made were in my marine biology textbook

in HS

[daring creek]

Freak biology textbook

[young pecan]

In the name of "science", a woman studying dolphins gave one a handie

[vagrant fox]

Ah yeah dolphin house

[winged jacinth]

Do not scroll my phone camera roll back to when i was taking animal biology for majors

[humble shoal]

blue whales are funny too

[young pecan]

And there's at least one video of a dolphin attempting to uhhh get with a woman

I don't like dolphins as a species

[humble shoal]

there are 10s of hours of footage of that in a house

[crystal forum]

dont look at my saved pics at all

unless you want to

[winged jacinth]

Dolphins torment pufferfish for fun

[young pecan]

For the high IIRC

[humble shoal]

to get high *

[winged jacinth]

They don't eat em or anything they just beat them up

[storm jungle]

You're banned jay

[crystal forum]

racist!!!

[tough haven]

Really shows how much content exists for tau though, same two animations

[crystal forum]

you won't ever see them then!!

[storm jungle]

[young pecan]

If I say yes then what

[daring creek]

Don't look through my writing

[young pecan]

Yeah I'm a dolphin hater

[daring creek]

(Please do)

Mean

[humble shoal]

what about orcas

the main predators of moose

[winged jacinth]

I don't save fucked up pics just because but i haven't deleted my like 500 labeled dissection images lol

[crystal forum]

then im finding you

[young pecan]

They're alright, it's messed up that they torture and slap seals around dozens of feet into the air, even if they're doing it to hone their predation skills

[humble shoal]

they're dolphins

[dapper gyro]

Do you guys write in cursive?

[young pecan]

I think their whole language thing they got goin on is neat

[winged jacinth]

I write in half-cursive

That's how you know i work in the sciences

[young pecan]

So by that logic, you also hoot and holler and throw feces while jumping through trees?

[humble shoal]

well orcas are literally porpoises

[winged jacinth]

Dolphin is a much wider group than human

[valid needle]

BLACK TEMPLAR FAN

[crystal forum]

i write in full cursive

thats how you know im a crazy person

[winged jacinth]

There's like 4 independently evolved species of freshwater dolphin

[young pecan]

Doesn't change the fact that orcas are very different from dolphins as we colloquially know them

[humble shoal]

they are literally giant dophins

[crystal forum]

we should kill all water mammals to restore the fish balance

[winged jacinth]

Its kinda funny that mammals weren't happy conquering the land and have decided to become the dominant sea creatures too

[young pecan]

Are normal sized dolphins also a matriarchy without gang 🍇 and localized language patterns

checkmate liberole

[humble shoal]

yeah?

[winged jacinth]

Orcas are more closely related to, say, the bottlenose than the bottlenose is to the yangtze river dolphin iirc

[humble shoal]

at least bottlenose have localized language patterns

anyway

best dolphin

anyway dolphin is a genus

[young pecan]

Important note that I'm talking about bottlenoses when I slander dolphins

[humble shoal]

false killer whales need no slander

[young pecan]

Because that's the first thing most people picture when you just say dolphin

[young pecan]

I think I've heard of these ones before

[young pecan]

What are some fun things about them

[humble shoal]

nothing really, they are just goofy guys

they do eat other dolphins though

and I think are allied with whales in the gang wars

since the blue whales are at war with the orcas (who are allied with the bottlenose)

[young pecan]

Do you watch that Casual Geographic guy

[humble shoal]

occasionally

[dapper gyro]

Cachalot (because sperm whale is a stupid name) was one of those apex predator as well.

[humble shoal]

but had heard of the whale fights before from hs biology

[daring creek]

Cars should explode after honking too many times

[vagrant fox]

if the lights too bright they should also explode

[valid needle]

It’s about to go down in SM2 server💀

[vagrant fox]

This will keep being a thing forever and ever it seems

[outer wave]

Dumbest shit

[storm jungle]

Here we go

lol

[valid needle]

It’s roughly the time SM2 mods are asleep too

This may get wild

[storm jungle]

Yeah. This is what happens when you dont cull the bad parts of your server lol

[storm jungle]

Dont engage, just watch

the usual shit we are used to by now

[languid meadow]

"Space Wolves can't be black"

[wary fulcrum]

It’s an absolutely insane reaction

[lament shoal]

"Ultramarines can't be black."

[wary fulcrum]

Worst part is

Fenris being a fire planet is literally from their first introduction in white dwarf

It’s been repeated multiple times throughout multiple codecis, 3rd ed had how their gene seed make them ‘tan and leather like’ which after seeing the colour my grandma went when she tanned always made me think ‘PoC’.

The fifth even explains how the South Island tribes are “dark of skin and temperament”.

It’s been a possibility within their lore from their introduction.

[storm jungle]

Its also like-

humans intermix all the time lol

ESPECIALLY in sci-fi settings

the straight up unapologetic racism this fandom is obsessed with is genuinely crazy

[vagrant fox]

crazy that a wholeass planet can have different ethnicities that look different

[storm jungle]

I love the logic for that too

"Well all norse people were white so fenris might be too"

lol

[languid meadow]

I do wish we had art for the southern islands

because it's described as being more temperate

like iceland

with volcanic activity

polish my orb

[vagrant fox]

White skin in humans came along like 10k years ago or something, afaik. 40k got plenty of time for people to change even if they started one way

[lament shoal]

Mfs acting like snowy weather prevents black people from being born 💀

[storm jungle]

Werent the first humans literally almost all tanned or something

[languid meadow]

Caucasians as we know are around 8000ish years old iirc

[storm jungle]

jesus thats almost nothing

lmao

[vagrant fox]

I've seen some very tan Inuits in Greenlands summer months too

[languid meadow]

should see my grandpa 💀

he's tanned out the wazoo

the reason Inuit are more tanned that other peoples who lived in the north like Caucasians is because the sun doesn't go down for months on end so they have similar skin to people near the equator

it's very cool

[vagrant fox]

Yeah it's extremely bright all of the time

Sunburnt lips are very cool most assuredly

[storm jungle]

Always just boils down to racism at the end of the day yeah

this is ignoring space wolvs and seeing how people react to even other marines with no helmets lol

[spring cairn]

fenrir has fallen

(good)

[vagrant fox]

the real shame is that the space wolves are dorks no matter their skin colour

[spring cairn]

(i hate sw)

[wary fulcrum]

To be fair, the juxtaposition of ‘South Island Tribes’ with dark skin and nomad sea farers did make me lean more Polynesian than African, but it’s also vague enough to go either way

The main issue is the fact he has black hair, that means he’s young as fuck. Space Wolves hair goes grey or white over time.

I also don’t love the eye patch in a setting where bionics are relatively easy to come by

[languid meadow]

"Put on your helmet brother"
"He wont because his breath stinks"

[lament shoal]

Salamanders accidentally making the poor guardsmen shit themselves after removing their helmets

[storm jungle]

I dont really think a mono-culture planet would have Polynesians

thats Space Sharks which also has its iffyness

[languid meadow]

there's also another chapter inspired by them iirc

[storm jungle]

English writers not take foreign cultures and apply them to white people moment

[wary fulcrum]

I mean racially rather than culturally

[jade holly]

Aren’t Salamanders the only chapter where all the Marines are the same because they exclusively recruit from Nocturne?

[storm jungle]

theres a reason tribal orks got nuked lol

[storm jungle]

Skintone yes, but Sallies got multiple ethnicities

African, Caucasian, Asian etc

[abstract vector]

They have different ethnicities too

[vagrant fox]

GW flesh out the Obsidian Jaguars more and do a really insensitive moment it'll be really funny

[languid meadow]

skintone is from their geneseed

[storm jungle]

^

[jade holly]

I had trouble wording what I meant lol. That’s why my question sounded weird

[storm jungle]

yeah the charcoal skin is not an ethnicity

its a geneseed effect

[languid meadow]

normal nocturnies have a wide variation of ethnicities and race

[storm jungle]

^

[lament shoal]

99% of the time they recruit exclusively from their homeworld, but there have been very rare exceptions

[storm jungle]

You are among friends here dont worry lol

[valid needle]

I thought it was the radiation

[storm jungle]

Eh same shit idk

[wary fulcrum]

SW recruit from one planet too

The Salamander skin is Black 2.0, or Vanta black rather than racially black

[abstract vector]

Asian, African and Caucasian. Culture wise not sure about Nocturne

[languid meadow]

it's how the radiation interacted with their geneseed

[storm jungle]

my favorite trope

[languid meadow]

iirc the early sallies weren't charcoal black

[storm jungle]

radiation can just do anything

[lament shoal]

Nocturnian culture has some greek elements

[storm jungle]

They werent yeah

[vagrant fox]

It's quite weird but ig sure, radiation does that yeah

[storm jungle]

it came later

Arbitrator Ian has an entire video on it

[jade holly]

Mmmm spicy air magic

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/tgeJS_4xpLQ

very fascinating video

[lament shoal]

Fantasy radiation my beloved

[storm jungle]

also later on covers the entire thing of representation in 40k

and how GW for years was afraid of doing non-white characters

its very funny

[jade holly]

Mfw anyone uses Heliomancy should realistically be giving everyone cancer

[lament shoal]

You can do anything with it

[abstract vector]

High Radiation usually gives you cancer when you get older

Yeah

[storm jungle]

Mmmm yummy yummy radiation

https://tenor.com/view/radiate-positivity-fallout-radiation-gif-11056273986022428252

[jade holly]

do Necrons use radiation at all?

[vagrant fox]

Best not do another pygmy moment I suppose

[jade holly]

I know they suffered from it lmao

[abstract vector]

Probably Nocturnes biologically evolved to become immune to radiation

[lament shoal]

Radiation is green, which is the same color as vegetables. Therefore its good for you

[abstract vector]

or atleast high tolerance

[jade holly]

In Borderlands it’s yellow

[abstract vector]

Weapons wise No?

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah, I do remember at the time trying to broaden my horizons and then binning a couple of minis that were basically just racist because it was really hard to do without being bad at the time

I know a couple Eavy Metal painters avoided it for the same reason, but I don’t know if that applies to everyone

[lament shoal]

Corn colored = healthy

[storm jungle]

Generally no, but the Thokt Dynasty (blue glow, grey-black metallic bodies) famously are very radioactive.

[abstract vector]

I read alot of Necron novels and there are no whats the word residue?

[storm jungle]

Yeaaah it was bad, only after the 2018 IP reboot that did GW actually broaden their horizons abit

[wary fulcrum]

Trace?

[jade holly]

Speaking of Necron novels

[storm jungle]

its kinda insane it took them 30 years to do a black marine with an actual mini

[abstract vector]

Like every time someone get shot near them or war for decades against the necrons dont have radiation

[jade holly]

Do I need the other Dawn of Fire books to read The Silent King?

[storm jungle]

fuck no

[languid meadow]

It's not great for us

[storm jungle]

dont read any of them

[languid meadow]

ngl

[storm jungle]

Dawn of Fire sucks

[abstract vector]

Traces or Residue yeah

[languid meadow]

it's a space marine book first and foremost

[jade holly]

Not even The Silent King?

[languid meadow]

yeah

[vagrant fox]

Isn't there like two good Dawn of Fire stories

[storm jungle]

No lol

yeah out of like 13

[abstract vector]

I hated dawn of fire because for a split second I thought it was new name for dawn of war years ago

[storm jungle]

[wary fulcrum]

I remember the first ever kill team in…5th or 6th ed rule book

And they had a black catachan guy in the back, and the buzz about how to finally do it without being racist was something I took for granted at the time

Fucking YouTube culture wars ruining everything

[vagrant fox]

chapter house is behind it I just know it

[abstract vector]

Catachans had a lot of African Americans in the art even back then given vietnam war aesthethics

[storm jungle]

Nooot really

[vagrant fox]

The outrage is just so boring, waa someone is melinated

[storm jungle]

there was literally like

[jade holly]

Emperor TTS ruined my view of Catachans lmao. Now all I can think of is the Barking Toad

[storm jungle]

1 black catachan guy, ever

lol

people really misremember it

they are entirely all white people in artwork

[abstract vector]

dont they have mixed arts too with Darker Skinned catachans back then?

[storm jungle]

Not really

let me get some art

alot of older 40k art has zero black people

its all white folks

[vagrant fox]

Some of the art has them a little bronzed but not much iirc

[wary fulcrum]

Apparently the mini I’m after is in the 4th Ed rule book

[jade holly]

Is it still available?

[abstract vector]

Ebay

[wet sandal]

I mean catachan are just Rambos, so Americans in Vietnam

[abstract vector]

but its a minefield

[wary fulcrum]

Surprisingly cheap on eBay tbf

[abstract vector]

Very Old models in ebay is 50/50

💀

[wet sandal]

And some of them were black obviously, but that's not the stereotypical American in Vietnam

[abstract vector]

I got a friend bought fw models and it arrived broken

💀

[abstract vector]

Meanwhile Audiobook dont give them distinct american accents

[wet sandal]

Well because everyone in 40k is british

No avoiding that, sorry

[lament shoal]

We need more latino marines fr

[storm jungle]

this is just some example of old catachan art

out of all of them theres just 1 black guy

[wet sandal]

Total British victory

[storm jungle]

lol

[abstract vector]

ah nvm

[storm jungle]

thats also entirely because Carl Weathers was in Predator

https://tenor.com/view/dillion-predator-gif-20171296

[abstract vector]

Closest ones is Crimson Fist

[storm jungle]

if he wasnt they'd be all white

lmao

[lament shoal]

MORE

[jade holly]

How possible is it to have an outskirt fringe planet sect of Imperial Guards that are just cowboys?

[sacred bluff]

what world were gaunts ghost from

[storm jungle]

Would be weird

[abstract vector]

He doesnt remember last time i remember

[storm jungle]

But its possible

[abstract vector]

Commissars are always raised in scholas

[storm jungle]

Tanith

[wet sandal]

Scotland but the forests move

[abstract vector]

He isnt loyal to any homeworld

[sacred bluff]

tanith>catachan

[abstract vector]

wait my bad

I thought you meanr Gaunt

[jade holly]

I just don’t know what factions would better suit just tried and true cowboys

[abstract vector]

[jade holly]

I know Admech has some cowboy esque models

[abstract vector]

The ghosts are from Tanith

Its blown up like cadia

[jade holly]

And GSC has that one guy with three hands and three guns

[lament shoal]

Genestealer cults

[wary fulcrum]

Coteaz isn’t a marine, but I can’t decide if he’s Spanish, Latino or South African

[storm jungle]

Hes a white guy with a spanish name

Crimson Fists are Latino tho yeah

[wary fulcrum]

Several

[abstract vector]

IIRC Crimson fists have mix Spaniards and Latin American sounding names last time I heard

[vagrant fox]

Modify the Arkan Confederates a bit and you're almost there

[jade holly]

I wanna see a Necron Dynasty be more focused on the Mesoamerican side of their inspiration ngl

[storm jungle]

Arkhan Confederates

guh

[vagrant fox]

smile

[storm jungle]

Necrons are full egypt

theres no Mesoamerican

[jade holly]

Guh huh Banjo riff

[abstract vector]

Lovecraft easter eggs

[storm jungle]

....

no

lol

[lament shoal]

The kelermorph model literally has a western style poncho lol

[storm jungle]

they are literally fucking confederates

[jade holly]

A Mesoamaerican styled dynasty would still be sick imo

[storm jungle]

I guess?

necrons are cool already

[wary fulcrum]

Would that not be the fan expansion for Rainbow Warriors?

[jade holly]

Oh yeah ofc

[abstract vector]

you mean how they build their Monoliths?

[vagrant fox]

They're racists, they've got the names and are based on the right time period. Just make them kill natives and you're there

[storm jungle]

Thats all made up

[abstract vector]

Its kinda Mesoamerican design wise?

[sacred bluff]

40k stole everything from lovecraft and starcraft

[jade holly]

I mean in general of the entire culture of the dynasty

[storm jungle]

Rainbow Warriors basically got ZERO lore

[abstract vector]

ah

[storm jungle]

their Mesoamerican thing is fandom created

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah that’s why I said fan expansion

[vagrant fox]

Obsidian Jaguars are just based on Aztecs and no one cares about them

not that there's much to them either

[wary fulcrum]

I blame the name, it’s pretty clunky

If it was Space Jaguars they’d be fine

They can join the Space Wolves and the Space Sharks

[vagrant fox]

Clunky either way imo

[lament shoal]

Obsidian Jaguars sounds cooler tho

[storm jungle]

Gay as hell

no aztecs for you losers

[vagrant fox]

Another proud Ultramarines successor though

[storm jungle]

nothing wrong with that

[jade holly]

May I negotiate the Incans then?

[storm jungle]

[wary fulcrum]

So do Vylka Fenryka and Carcharadon’s

But we all know what they really are

[vagrant fox]

No nothing wrong with it, I want more weird successors

[wary fulcrum]

Minotaurs are Iron Warriors

I did like the theory they were World Eaters but alas

[vagrant fox]

shoo

[lament shoal]

Space sharks is literally just the official "slang" term for that chapter

[jade holly]

Oh I’m a fucking dumbass lmao

[lament shoal]

Carcharodons is the primary name

[jade holly]

Wow I severely misunderstood where the Incan empire was located

[humble shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/sob-arnold-gif-12406885

[jade holly]

I definitely need to do my research on them lmao

[wary fulcrum]

That’s the joke, that space jaguars would do better because of the space wolves and space sharks

Like Space Wolves is the imperial name for the chapter but they call themselves Vylka Fenryka. Space Sharks is the translated name for Carcharadon Astra

[humble shoal]

incans spanned a wide range no?

[vagrant fox]

Inca Empire was pretty cool all things considered

A lot of Peru and then some afaik

[jade holly]

Yeah but it’s nowhere near where the Aztec and Mayan civilizations were from what I’m seeing

[humble shoal]

yeah

[vagrant fox]

They've just got weird little mummies around the place because that area is way too dry

[humble shoal]

also from what I remmeber a gian tunnel system that is off limits to tourists

[vagrant fox]

A lot of monumental architecture was around yea, too bad the Spanish decided to show up

and the nefarious yankee

[jade holly]

Which Necron models still need updates?

I know of Trazyn, normal Lokhust Destroyers and Zahndrekh and Obyron

[humble shoal]

incas didnt make it to the spanish

they were already in shambles ala rome with the goths

[vagrant fox]

Pizzaro didn't help things much

[humble shoal]

aztecs on the other hand

don't think anyone

should be too sad the aztecs got nuked

[vagrant fox]

have a cool

They were cool, sad so see a real G gone

One day I'll go see a real ball game played in the old fashioned way

[fervent geode]

Much bigger, and also potatoes

[fervent geode]

The Aztecs were fked up for the standards of the time

There is a reason why every so many tribes fought with Cortes

[humble shoal]

I know lol thats why I said what I did

[storm jungle]

yeah the humane way is shooting, SA-ing and pillaging while dressed up

[fervent geode]

Js agreeing

[fervent geode]

Nah dont get me wrong cortes was a mutinous dickhead too

But the Aztecs killed and enslaved on the daily

Like more so than usual by alot

[humble shoal]

The industrial amount of human sacrificing was probably one of the main reasons most trides sided with the spanish

[abstract vector]

Thats what happened when centuries of just grabbing other tribes and use their hearts for rituals

[storm jungle]

Tbh spanish did the same too

[fervent geode]

Yep

[storm jungle]

both of them sucked

one is just more feral about it because... well they're tribesmen

the other are killers in "civilized" clothes

[humble shoal]

I'd agree with basically any of the other empires the spanish destroyed

[fervent geode]

True enough, js saying that if the aztecs were less fucked up maybe the tlaxcala and tarascans wouldnt want to kill them more than cortes lmao

[humble shoal]

but nah the aztecs were specifically that bad

[fervent geode]

But iirc

[humble shoal]

[fervent geode]

As bad as the spaniards were

[humble shoal]

They were in it for the love of the game

[fervent geode]

The aztecs were worse

[humble shoal]

chaos style

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/spanish-empire-boat-sea-gif-16814788

[humble shoal]

not the spanish the aztecs

[vagrant fox]

top text

[fervent geode]

Spanish were in it for money and shiz

[abstract vector]

Warcraft III gameplay

[fervent geode]

The aztecs were basically pre great crusade cadia

[abstract vector]

Yeah and dont forget Spanish El Dorado

[vagrant fox]

Personally I'd rank the conquistadors worse but that's me

[fervent geode]

Yep, moeny

[storm jungle]

Savage is a savage

[humble shoal]

they were pretty much world eaters

[fervent geode]

Too civilised

[abstract vector]

Spanish Empire Greed and hunt for the gold made a disney movie

[fervent geode]

Even if the civilisation was based on human sacrifice, mass enslavement, cannibalism and genocide

[humble shoal]

peak spanish propoganda

[fervent geode]

The spaniards were dicks for what they did to the inca

The aztecs and spaniards were douche on douche

[humble shoal]

also its 2 more days before slaaneshmas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqFmt9XYeYo

[storm jungle]

TTS

garbage

[humble shoal]

this is still one of the best parodies of the ric andre show

[storm jungle]

its terrible

legit earsore

you really can tell the period this video was made in lol

[humble shoal]

thats fair

[abstract vector]

TTS should have announced they drop it than called it Hiatus

Its clearly they want to stop

[vagrant fox]

like 80% of the population dead in 150 years is genuinely staggering to think about

[humble shoal]

this land was promised to me by god

[opaque coyote]

It's funny that the T'au empire treats the Enclaves like the Imperium does to the T'au

AKA: "We could totally conquer you. The problem is that if we try that, then all of our other enemies would jump our ass, so you get to live... for now."

[lament shoal]

Watch out for this channel you guys

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I think most of that is from diseases rather than murder

But it's still substantial

[humble shoal]

clearly from this picture the khan was white

[opaque coyote]

I swear that non-mongolian white scars exist

[vagrant fox]

A lot of it was diseases but they were also wiping out culture and going around massacring people

in 30k they had that one who was born with the most fake scandi name on Terra

Torghun Khan born as Haren Svensellen, thats the lad

[humble shoal]

any black marines are just marines that were stationed on planets with stronger suns

melanin is lioterally useless cuz they cna change skin colors based on environments no?

[vagrant fox]

Born Haren Svensellen in Terra's Scandinavian region, Haren dreamed of joining the Luna Wolves and had a great reverence for their Primarch, Horus. However, due to his cadre of aspirants passing more candidates than their target, Haren was reassigned to an under-strength legion, the White Scars

funny guy

[near wasp]

thats rough

but at least then he would not have to die on istivan

[sacred bluff]

No backwards step

[lament shoal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/a7xSoX2pTNQ?si=zSpY02Y6E4NW6gwz Abelard wishes you a merry Christmas

[celest cedar]

with a name like behind the grind its already a clue on what they are

also a space marine pfp

[lament shoal]

The stereotype creates itself at this point

[young pecan]

The amount of times I've seen the first picture used in complete sincerity defending genocide

[vagrant fox]

absolutely

[abstract vector]

I remember him accusing another space marine 2 youtuber for aimbot

in reality he uses Aim Assist due to being an Xbox Player

[fading tangle]

guys, is there any lore on how each class deals with diarrhea

[abstract vector]

Take anti-Diarrhea pills

wait shit

I thought irl

[vagrant fox]

Uh, like hippos do

[abstract vector]

In the HH novel he becomes Great Khan

[fading tangle]

idk i was just thinking cause ogryn probably just lets it out, arbites dog eats it

[abstract vector]

(Company Captain)

[abstract vector]

IIRC they probably have medical Pills to handle sickness

[abstract vector]

They do in Horus Heresy Book. Terran Marines are described to be different ethnicities compared to the ones living in Chogoris

But in modern 40K IIRC GW mixed in None-Asians in the White Scars painting guids iirc

[lament shoal]

This guy needs a punch in the teeth

[opaque coyote]

Yeah and although SMs usually use their home planet, I think SM chapters also collect aspirants from wherever generally

Usually planets that are (more than usual) destitute which means that their aspirants are tough!!

[abstract vector]

Like the context was (forgot his name) Content Creator was a console player and he had aim assist on. BTG accuse him of aimbotting in his videos because he gets consistent headshots. People pointed out that Aim Assist is on because on consoles it auto adjust to where you point at

[abstract vector]

Yeah, I think Salamanders are kinda the only ones exclusively from Nocturne because they used an Apprentice System to recruit new marines.

They find anyone worthy to mentor in their homeworld and then let them do trials

[opaque coyote]

So by that logic, a lot of SM chapters should have a variety of ethnicities

[abstract vector]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

Not all of them ofc

But ironically enough, I think chapters like the Black Templars would be very diverse

"I'm not racist, I'm just xenophobic"

[abstract vector]

Imperial Fists canonically are the only chapter allowed any recruit to keep their culture than assimilate

[opaque coyote]

Allowed to whar

Ah

[abstract vector]

sorry I type fast

[opaque coyote]

Salamanders also have this thing called uh

Actually having them keep a relationship with their families

[abstract vector]

Its canon Imperial Fists allowed Gangers, Nobles, Stone Age Warriors or even Bronze age style culture in the chapter

Cultural tatoos and ganger tattos are not forbidden

its encouraged

[abstract vector]

clans system

[glass drum]

White scars does it better

[abstract vector]

Salamanders are the only ones allowed to see their families and even they are encouraged to mentor the new generations

[glass drum]

[abstract vector]

Vulkan allowed his sons to visit their mothers and I dont remember reading white scars seeing their families again

[lament shoal]

Inviting Uncle Ra'shan to the annual family BBQ

[opaque coyote]

Now I'm imagining a Imperial fist being like

"I learned this as a kid.."

Shoots their bolter sideways with one hand

[abstract vector]

You know we never have any story featuring caveman recruit and hive ganger recruit story as a comedy

imagine the shenanigans entails when doing shit for the chapter

[glass drum]

True but they replace it with something deeper
They view the legion/chapter as their new family
"The Legion is their people now"

[abstract vector]

true, like what vin diesel said. Family is the strongest

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, a lot of guardsmen in general are recruited from various different cultures.

Each with a different way of worshipping the Emperor

[glass drum]

Bond stronger than blood
Tbf whitescars were pretty meh to me but learning more about them

[opaque coyote]

Essentially, canonically, the Emperor is different to each culture

For some, he's a sun god, others maybe a God of War

Etc. etc.

The only similarity being their praise of him and their servitude

So... I can imagine some wild religious arguments

[abstract vector]

it is actually

It just GW wont give us upgrade sprues

💀

[glass drum]

White Scars are by far the best legion/chapter. The books, the lore, the the way they preserve their culture, the methods of war.. all of it. Huge fan of the White Scars. Only the Black Templars can compare imo.

[opaque coyote]

I like the Chaos legions better

[lament shoal]

Counter point: nuh uh

[opaque coyote]

Loyalists generally don't interest me that much

Idk why

Maybe it's because I like the spikes

[glass drum]

Loyalist 40k are kinda stale

30k now were talking

So yeh chaos for sure are currently the most interesting in the current setting for me too

[opaque coyote]

Listen, the typical "My faith is my shield" is fun

But I really like

"BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD."

"SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE."

Has a better ring to it

[abstract vector]

Traitors have more varied backstory than loyalist

thats why ALOT of people enjoy chaos

[glass drum]

For sure the traitors have wayy cooler warcrys too

[abstract vector]

the warbands can be varied in ideology and philosophy compared to the loyalists

[glass drum]

Hydra Dominatus

[opaque coyote]

Chaos and the warp is something I wish GW went deeper into.

There also exists minor gods of the warp. Chaos and one non chaos

[abstract vector]

I AM ALPHARIUS

[abstract vector]

Warhammer Fantasy explored it

sadly they removed it

[glass drum]

Ave Dominus Nox

[opaque coyote]

Yeah and that was cool

Too bad 40k has jack shit

[glass drum]

Night lords, alpha legion, and death guards my top 3 for sure

[abstract vector]

[glass drum]

Drip alone there one of the best

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I like to imagine that the Eye of Terror has an... Approximately annual fashion show

Hosted by Slaaneshi daemons, it's time for people to strut their fashion!

[abstract vector]

Word Bearers have same too

[opaque coyote]

Also I think the only Chaos faction that is dripless is the dark mechanicum

And that's because...

They look almost the same as regular

[arctic talon]

The only difference is some spikes and mutations

Lul

[abstract vector]

They have more now in Legions Imperialis

but its not allowed on 40k TT

[arctic talon]

The dark mechanicum being a descendent of the mechanicum doesn’t help

They still have the same culture and traditions

lol

More recent traitor mechanicus are funkier

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think they should at least have differently colored robes at least.

Since they still wear red robes

[arctic talon]

They don’t want to lol

Why the fuck should they

They’re the TRUE MECHANICUM

THEY’RE THE REAL MARTIANS

[opaque coyote]

And it's not like you can tell by how fucked they are since well...

The Mechanicus already look like abominations. It's hard to go further

[glass drum]

Werent they bringing new lore to vashtorr

[arctic talon]

Martian dark mechanicum wear red

Because mars is there’s

[arctic talon]

Vashtorr has had quite a bit of new lore

Issue is he hates mortals

He fucking despises them

It’s one thing kept consistent with his character through all authors

Mortals are the weakest chaff to fuel his ascension

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I thought of maybe having their robes be a form of orange.

Similar to Mars currently.

[arctic talon]

And he despises them, they’re inefficient

[arctic talon]

That would be ryza dark mechanicum

[opaque coyote]

"THE FLESH IS WEAK"

[arctic talon]

If they didn’t all get slaughtered

lol

Ryza number 1

[opaque coyote]

Well that's just sad

[abstract vector]

Not sure how will they transfer Legions Imperialis into 40k

[arctic talon]

Ryza slaughtered them all

They literally tortured the ringleaders to death and hung their corpses up

lol

[opaque coyote]

Again, dark mechanicum is dripless as a result since they barely look any different.

At least daemon machines are cool as fuck

[arctic talon]

They won’t mini wise

They’ll be dif minis

For 40k and 30k

[opaque coyote]

Sounds about right

[opaque coyote]

So he barely interacts with them presumably because he hates them

...

[abstract vector]

true

[arctic talon]

No he interacts with them

He just fucks them over with his contracts even harder

[opaque coyote]

It's horribly passive aggressive isn't it

[arctic talon]

He makes his contracts more convoluted for mortals

[abstract vector]

But part of me thinks MAYBE they port one HH model and legally allowed in 40k in terms of one unique unit from Admech

[arctic talon]

He pulls this shit on Abbadon lol

Where he fucks if the moment it’s fufilled

[abstract vector]

after that EVERYONE is reskinned admech

[arctic talon]

All of the admech and Mechanicum range is in both time periods aside for. The castellax

[opaque coyote]

Would he be pissed if a mortal actually successfully notices all of the pitfalls he wrote in

[arctic talon]

Which is obnoxious

[opaque coyote]

Somehow

[arctic talon]

No

He’d be pleased

[abstract vector]

Castellax is broken

[arctic talon]

Because it proves they’re not entirely worthless

[abstract vector]

Holy Fuck it can kill a titan

[arctic talon]

More so too many of them went batshit insane during the heresy

Castellax automata cannot kill a titan lore wise

They lack the proper firepower unless massed

And it’s gona be a lot of them

[opaque coyote]

...

Vashtorr is growing higher and higher in my "Warp gods that are interesting" list.

But I have to ask.

Who are a majority of his worshippers then?

[arctic talon]

N/A

mortals who don’t know better

He steals power from the other Gods

He literally feeds off the chaos gods

They pay him

He gives them stuff

He tricks other daemons into contracts

[abstract vector]

Vashtorr is basically contractor

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Also he steals other gods daemons and enslaves them in an endless debt loop

The gods do not like this but he gives them shinies

So they’re okay with it

[opaque coyote]

I assume Tzeentch daemons are a no go for him then

[arctic talon]

They are

[burnt maple]

... I would say something now...

[arctic talon]

Not all of them are perfect

[opaque coyote]

Either that or are very entertaining

[jade holly]

Do it

I dare you

[burnt maple]

Hell naw bro.

[opaque coyote]

Damn Vashtorr truly is built different

Literally

[arctic talon]

@opaque coyote laaFor a full list of lesser chaos gods btw

The Raptor god(ess)? Only gets referred to with feminine pronouns or none definitive ones

Vashtor the arkifane

Malice

[opaque coyote]

Isn't Belakor one?

[abstract vector]

Tau?

[arctic talon]

No

[opaque coyote]

Or would he just count as a Daemon Prince

[abstract vector]

Daemon Prince

[arctic talon]

Tau’va might not be a chaos god

And might just be a warp god

These are actual Chaos gods

Oh also the dark king

[abstract vector]

Tau?

[arctic talon]

But he isn’t awake yet

[opaque coyote]

Huh.

Didn't know the raptor god was possibly female

(Zamn!!)

[arctic talon]

They get referred to as she/the huntress like

Twice

Ever

[abstract vector]

isn't the Tau a chaos god?

or just entity?

[arctic talon]

No

The tau’va is a warp entity

Unclear if it’s a chaos god or not

[opaque coyote]

Most likely something similar to how the Eldar gods are

[jade holly]

Is it bad I kinda want the “Emperor is the Dark King” to happen

[abstract vector]

it would interesting thing or dan fucks up

Imagine Star Children plot line is just beserk or Anime Shonen Protags using the power of friendship to beat their dad

[jade holly]

Right now is it correct to say the paths for the Emperor is set up to be either the Dark King or the Star Child?

[abstract vector]

Both

I want what Dan is smoking and the type of crack he is willing to mix in.

Its The Collective Evils of Humanity vs Emperor’s Empathy and Compassion into descendants

[jade holly]

I mean

Since we know Faith has power in 40K

And the people worship him as a malevolent god of conquest and human supremacy

And we feed him 1k Psykers a day

Wouldn’t the Dark King become the chaos god of sacrifices?

[abstract vector]

yeah

Its gonna be dark souls level of how The Evils of Humanity is over powered and the Human Empathy and Compassion is a level 1 Ashen One

[jade holly]

Bruh

I searched Dark King on YouTube and I keep getting videos about Rayleigh from One Piece

[abstract vector]

Dan Abnetts true plan

He will finally finish one piece

wait a minute

🤔

[jade holly]

A new short came out recently that I think really summarizes what I want Dark King Emperor to be like

https://youtube.com/shorts/Olty_pfqYhY?si=4o53hzXika3DLx8a

[abstract vector]

Man his animations hit hard

[jade holly]

Ppl watch this and understand why the Terminus Decree exists

Whatever gets up off that throne ain’t gonna be Big E

[lament shoal]

No it will be. But like stated in the video, it will be a cruel god of their own making

Still big e but different now

[jade holly]

Faith has power

[daring creek]

Guys

question

[jade holly]

And they made him something worth fearing

[daring creek]

read Eisenhorn and drink chocolate milk

[jade holly]

That’s not a question smh

Way to get my hopes up

[daring creek]

or watch Hunter The Pareting and drink chocolate milk

It's hard to choose

both sound great.

Each episode only gets cooler and cooler.

I think I'm going to first clean off my table then decide.......

Hunter is making me wanna start reading Carmilla

PLUS D is going to be in this episode

and I have to hear his insanity.

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, again, I prefer that he just breaks into several shards

One of them being a "growing" dark king

Given that the Emperor has so many different interpretations by so many different planets

It would make sense that he can't really have a defined form anymore as a result

So he splits

[jade holly]

Who’s to say that isn’t already happening with how some BT get visions from him, Psykers could be in contact with him (seer), and his mind seemed heavily fragmented when he met Guilliman

[opaque coyote]

Because the thing about the Chaos Gods is that they have a defined domain.

[jade holly]

The Dark King and Star Child seem like the main two fragments that are at war with each other

[opaque coyote]

Yeah exactly

Along with the star child's existence. I think it would be interesting to have a bunch of mini-emperors essentially.

Could also explain why he's so inconsistent

He was always a collage of thousands of years of identities in one body

[abstract vector]

Honestly with the rate we're going

[jade holly]

The Dark King represents Humanity’s violence and desperation, and the Star Child represents their hope and heart

[abstract vector]

Maybe GW is preparing the Imperium is gonna get split

[jade holly]

I’m def expecting some sort of Primarch v Ecclesiarchy civil war

[opaque coyote]

I mean it already is but I think it is interesting if the Imperium officially shatters

[abstract vector]

We got Roboute, The Lion, Governors and etc

[abstract vector]

It is

[opaque coyote]

Basically uh

The Imperium finally falls to mankind's oldest phenomenon for nations and empires

Balkanization

[jade holly]

I do expect one more primarch to return before any declaration that would start the civil war begins

I hope the Leman Russ Odin theory is true

[abstract vector]

The Lion Wins

because he has blood ravens

he can steal the enemies relics

[jade holly]

THOSE ARE DA THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME???

[opaque coyote]

...I really want to post a specific meme but I'm pretty sure I would be banned so have this instead

[abstract vector]

No no

[daring creek]

Are we ever going to achieve the point where the Imperium like actually collapses on itself

[daring creek]

real

[jade holly]

It is, just extremely slowly

[abstract vector]

Remember Dawn of War IV has Blood Ravens working WITH the Dark Angels

there is not confirmation we're the Lions sons

[daring creek]

but faster with the emperor waking up and choosing violence.

[abstract vector]

Its just that The Lion Saving the Blood Ravens means my Chapter owes him a favor

[opaque coyote]

When GW needs more money

[jade holly]

Well technically he is awake, he is just chair bound right now like he’s taking the hardest dump of his life

[abstract vector]

Yeah

It feels like GW wanted to mix things up

With Opressive shit balanced with hope for a better future

[opaque coyote]

He isn't dying because of the throne or Horus's wound

He's just taking a shit that he spent the entirety of the great crusade holding it in

[abstract vector]

Robute is kinda trying to reform the Imperium

[jade holly]

Personally I see it like this: Corpse boi on the throne is the conduit for the all the fragments going through the warp, guiding people and reaching the people of the Imperium.

Dark King is the one guiding the Ecclesiarchy and more fanatical believers in God Emperor

[daring creek]

elite shitters

[abstract vector]

thats a good point

[jade holly]

Competitive shitting

[opaque coyote]

How the fuck does Calgar like

Hold things

That are small

[daring creek]

very gentley.

[opaque coyote]

He always seems to be in his terminator armor

I can't imagine him trying to write

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-franky-franky-one-piece-cyborg-robot-gif-1615050089034196838

[jade holly]

Dark King needs worshippers, and goody goody for him the Imperium is ripe fanatical, self sustaining worship. Not to mention they feed him powerful Psykers everyday feeding him more warp energy

[opaque coyote]

Maybe he has something like this

[abstract vector]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

[jade holly]

The Imperium is speedrunning the creation of a new chaos god (not as fast as the Deldar did tho )

[abstract vector]

now that I think about it

With Grimm's comment

[opaque coyote]

Tbf objectively the Eldar took longer

We're getting a new record

[abstract vector]

maybe Dan is writing both incase GW does wanted to have reformed imperium vs dark king's vision of the Imperium

[jade holly]

Do I believe one day Big E will get off the throne? Yes. But right now there’s a warp war happening between the fragments to see who gets to claim the body

[opaque coyote]

Basically they existed for millions of years and only caused Slaanesh to be born around the very late 20th millennium?

[jade holly]

and if Dark King wins…

Let’s hope the Grey Knights can actually do something

[opaque coyote]

I think Emps has a plan to fucking shit himself and explode his body if that happens

[jade holly]

And that is what I believe the Imperium civil war will ultimately be about

Both sides doing what they believe the Emperr wants them to do

[opaque coyote]

Terra might be the homeland of humanity, but it ain't worth it if there's a dark king

[jade holly]

But each side’s “Emperor” is a much different one

[abstract vector]

Roboute is gonna consildate the Imperium

First Founding Chapters would be split

[opaque coyote]

So humanity is actually pretty fast at making a Chaos God LMAO

[abstract vector]

I know Vulkan's Sons, The Khan's Sons and Corvus sons will do whats right for the citizens

[jade holly]

If we count DK (hehe) being made the second he sat on the Golden Throne

That’s like what?

10k years?

[abstract vector]

everyone else will stay loyal to the Emperor's Vision

[opaque coyote]

It would be wildly funny if the Marines Malevolent somehow stayed loyal even with the Dark King

Like they somehow haven't fell to Chaos

[jade holly]

They’re pragmatic

Not heretical

really… fucked up… pragmatic

[opaque coyote]

...

Sure

Let's go with that

[jade holly]

They make Iron Hands look sane

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/hunter-the-parenting-alfabusa-pyotr-vampire-lick-eye-gif-26074219

[opaque coyote]

Hide the game of "kick the kids"

[daring creek]

hilarious

[jade holly]

Though if they were to pick a side

Def Dark Kong

fuck

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/andy-dwyer-donkey-kong-dk-andy-gif-1067968411783685778

The dark king

Circa 50th millennium

[abstract vector]

Donkey Kong wins GOTY

he becomes the dark king

[jade holly]

Banana Slamma the other Chaos gods into dust

[daring creek]

hm

[jade holly]

Wait

[daring creek]

How much longer will gw milk 40k in its current setting

[jade holly]

Wait

Big brain

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/slapping-face-donkey-kong-mario-the-super-mario-bros-movie-striking-gif-27210838

[jade holly]

Russ will return wisened after meeting with the Star Child

He’ll return like an Odin esque figure

Embracing his Psyker powers

[opaque coyote]

Imagine this scene.

He comes back with a long beard, looking full of wisdom

And then he shouts

[jade holly]

THE ONE PIECE

[opaque coyote]

"WHERE THE FUCK IS MAGNUS I WANNA KILL HIS ASS"

[jade holly]

Wait wrong story

[jade holly]

I feel like as he begins to accept his Psyker powers he’ll sort of understand why Magnus did what he did tbh

[opaque coyote]

It would be funny if he learned absolutely nothing

He's still the same as he always was.

[jade holly]

You know what would be interesting? If Omegon is secretly working with the Star Child. Getting close to chaos partly because of his brother (rip bozo) and partly to use the tactics of deception, espionage and sabotage to fight them and stay close to the Star Child

Cause, ya know, Alpha Legion is about deception and infiltration at the end of the day

[opaque coyote]

I think it would be interesting if when Alpharius died.

Omegon got a piece of his soul before he disappeared

He is now

Alpharius Omegon!

...

God that was cheesy

[jade holly]

One became two and then two became one

Now we have 3

Or is that 4

[jade holly]

Damn we killed chat