40k-lore-chat

[vagrant fox]

this is wisdom

[urban spire]

is there a reason for primaris marines beyond making new models?

[raven stone]

Incidentally we still waiting on GW with the Chaos Ad Mech

[raven stone]

No.

Literally GW forcing Marine players to refresh their range.

[vagrant fox]

some vague justification for scaling, selling more models to the fanbase that buys all the models they get

[urban spire]

my girlfriend enjoyed painting them so i guess that's okay

[raven stone]

And also the weirdly dickish move to separate 30k era and 40k era Marines

[vagrant fox]

My only issue with them is how they were introduced tbh

[fervent geode]

James moneh

[raven stone]

I miss the days you could actually double dip and narratively it feels awesome

[vagrant fox]

It is a strange decision but I haven't bought a model in so long I don't care

[fervent geode]

Tbh if Gman hadn't returned around the same time, Cawl would probably not released the primaris lmao, they would've killed him as a heretek

And james foreshadowed gmans return 6 yrs earlier

[urban spire]

i'm never going to have the money to play 40k with official models, if i cared i'd only hurt myself

[vagrant fox]

I do find the implication that he was just sitting on an army twiddling his thumbs while the whole War of the Beast was going on next door

[fervent geode]

Who knows how long james was going to do this

[storm jungle]

they usually plan them 2-3 years in advance

it isnt some huge conspiracy plan

[abstract vector]

Kill Team models are great

[urban spire]

he is, tbf, profoundly insane

[fervent geode]

I know, but i imagine a massive refresh would have to planned even earlier

[fervent geode]

I reckon they werent ready yet

[raven stone]

Ad Mech too busy teleporting Ullanor to become Armageddon (another somewhat silly decision)

[storm jungle]

Its legit hilarious too

they were underground all that time and nobody found em

convoluted comic book ahh plotpoint

[urban spire]

i would like some more non-cawl representation for the admech

[fervent geode]

The whole war of the beast was kinda weird imo

[raven stone]

GW lore writers on their worse days just come up with really, really weak excuses.

[vagrant fox]

I tend to completely ignore it

[storm jungle]

"imo"

everyone thinks it was weird

[fervent geode]

Idk

[storm jungle]

its one of the goofiest parts of the lore

and thats saying something

lmao

[urban spire]

like the characters in mechanicus (the game) were fantastic, i want to see more of that level of diversity of thought

[fervent geode]

Ive found some insane Koorland simps

Before

[storm jungle]

LOL

your first mistake was interacting with Imperial Fist fans

[vagrant fox]

i hate the censorbot

[abstract vector]

@storm jungle you forgot the best part. Its confirmed AN ENTIRE PLANET is a Vault filled with Primaris

[fervent geode]

Probably

[abstract vector]

[vagrant fox]

just wait for darktide admech class true schizzy moments will occur, trust

[storm jungle]

Definitely

[storm jungle]

lmao yeah

its so funny

[raven stone]

The most weird thing about War of The Beast is everyone half expected HH like series.

We ended up getting something tonally similar to Grimdark Harry Potter. (And if you think HP is overused slop, yes, include that sentiment too)

[urban spire]

the word you tried to use is my actual diagnosis :)

[vagrant fox]

yea

[urban spire]

don't use it like that :)

[abstract vector]

war of the beast was interesting but goddamn the pacing and extra bullshit like backup beasts

[storm jungle]

coulrophobia?

[fervent geode]

War of the beast gave everyone the stupid opinion that the high lords were always useless and never competent

[urban spire]

no i like clowns

[storm jungle]

I mean

they arent

but still lol

[raven stone]

Backup beasts, Ork Deathstars, teleporting Ullanor to become Armageddon, wiping Imperial Fist Chapter because lols ...

[storm jungle]

wiping Imperial Fist Chapter
🇼

[urban spire]

successor chapter named imperial feet

[fervent geode]

I mean they have to be somewhat competent to run a galactic empire, the highlords guilliman faced were competent, but now everyone thinks the high lords are just 12 udin macht udos

[raven stone]

I mean, compared to a Primarch...

[fervent geode]

Obviously primarch wins

[abstract vector]

Slaughter Koorland had cool scenes

[urban spire]

you don't have to be competent to incompetently head a galactic empire that more or less runs itself

[abstract vector]

Then its a speedrun to grab Vulkan

[fervent geode]

They still make big decisions on the administratum, crusades, the tithe and laws

I am not saying that one generation of high lords cant be incomptent

[urban spire]

yep, and they make them badly

as a rule

[fervent geode]

But if every generation of high lords did this eventually the imperium would die

[urban spire]

because if they were good at their jobs the imperium wouldn't be a shithole

[fervent geode]

The imperium is a shithole on account of the fact it is too huge and constantly at war imo, they simply dont care as long as this shithole pays the tithe and fights its wars. There are nicer imperial worlds and there are ultra shitholes like necromunda and jopall

Basically yes incompetent high lords are possible, but for every udin there must be a leontus

Or else no imperium

[abstract vector]

Thing is with the Imperium that it also functions as a Feudal System too given they allowed some sectors to be decentralised

[urban spire]

being constantly at war is the baseline shitty decision

[fervent geode]

The Imperium is a massive authoritarian feudal garbage pile anyway, no helping much of it

[abstract vector]

Only thing they want is armies and sent to restore order or reconquest

[urban spire]

the imperium is explicitly feudal yes

[abstract vector]

Yeah but given how big it is. They got lucky decentralisation helps too

[urban spire]

anyway, after 10k+ years, the imperium is actually starting to fall apart

[fervent geode]

I mean id agree with their only enemy was the T'au or Interex, but the Necrons, Chaos, Orks, Drukhari, Corsairs and Tyranids cant really be reasoned with anyway

[celest dome]

It was already falling apart from its inception days

[fervent geode]

The imperium has always been since 30k, just not enough to topple it

It wouldve been pretty bad rn if Guilliman hadn't returned

[urban spire]

it's in what, 3 splinters right now?

[fervent geode]

Yeap agree, no way you are running it centralised, even in 30k the planetary governors and assemblies had autonomies

[fervent geode]

Sanctus and Nihilus

[urban spire]

he's gonna make it worse! he's gonna make his own empire! he did it before!

[fervent geode]

And nihilus is hell basically

[urban spire]

well, here's hoping anyway

[fervent geode]

The Imperium Secundus only happened because well they thought emps was dead, why make an imperium when you can inherit one

[urban spire]

thinking about it, it's really fucking funny that the emperor had no backup plan for his own death

[fervent geode]

Ye lmao, he never gave it thought ig, well theories aside

[urban spire]

the "the emperor actually planned all this" theories are complete horseshit lmao

[fervent geode]

Doesn't help the only primarchs who may have been capable of sitting on his throne are traitors

[vagrant fox]

Why make plans for your death when you haven't died for a few tens of thousands of years ig

[fervent geode]

No i agree, i mean theories that certain primarchs were supposed to be his failsafes

[urban spire]

classic hubris

[fervent geode]

Chiefly Guilliman and Magnus

[storm jungle]

Arbitrator Ian made a video on this

[abstract vector]

Even Roboute is lucky he can only reform ultramar

[storm jungle]

essentially only Magnus was needed to ensure the webway worked

Gman never was gonna be appointed for anything

[fervent geode]

Ooh i heard

[storm jungle]

its pretty good id recommend it

[fierce pendant]

nothing screams father of the millenium like viewing your sons as failsafes

[vagrant fox]

I have a cluster A diagnosis that uses the same term but if you insist, yeah no worries

[fervent geode]

Kor Phaeron states in The First Heretic that Guilliman can take up most of the Emperor's job and could succeed him if need be, I admit he may be a questionable man but still

Well except the whole golden throne part

[abstract vector]

For 40K

[vagrant fox]

crazy

[urban spire]

that's fair, i just don't think it's good to use it like that

[abstract vector]

I think GW is setting up Roboute to be Julius Nepos

[storm jungle]

Yeah tho thats out of Kor's mouth/his opinion

the Magnus thing we do know 100% since the Emperor himself says it

[fervent geode]

Julius Nepos? Who will kill him then

[storm jungle]

A happy customer is a compliant customer

[fervent geode]

Ye i agree

[abstract vector]

Probably Magnus or Fulgrim round 2

Anyway

Julius Nepos reforms but Ultramar?

[fervent geode]

I want Lorgar to but sute

[vagrant fox]

Most assuredly not I'm just used to talking to my schizophrenic friend who doesn't care

[near wasp]

Honestly just have cawl continue to research necron tech and he'll make a Pharos sooner or later

[storm jungle]

Insidious backshots

[urban spire]

i don't think the emperor's vision of the imperium woulda been that shit hot either tbh

[storm jungle]

His entire argument was "I know im right" so

[abstract vector]

It feels like the 500 worlds is GW attempt of Unremembered Empire 2

[spring cairn]

which is very hard to understand for most companies apparently

[fervent geode]

Nah Nepos lost the empire save illyria, Guilliman has half the place

[storm jungle]

[abstract vector]

EA be like

Turn anything into fortnite

[urban spire]

haven't heard anything about EA in a WHILE

[abstract vector]

or COD Clone

[raven stone]

They haven't screwed up something yet

[abstract vector]

Fifa

[storm jungle]

they are here, just now as a background force

[abstract vector]

they’re losing the license

[urban spire]

i don't think they make good things in the first place

[fervent geode]

It wouldve been better than the shithole we have now, most cities from then in places like Tallarn and Istvaan III werent the utter hell we have now

[abstract vector]

Early 2000’s EA were kinda competent or the demons are chained

2010’s?

[vagrant fox]

EA used to be the great devil after Peter Molyneux and now look at them

[abstract vector]

OH FUCK

demons are on the lose

[storm jungle]

It would basically still be a tyrannical regime

built on genocide and oppression

[abstract vector]

Emperor wanted everyone to be Psykers

[fervent geode]

Well yes, thats the imperiun

[abstract vector]

He will force everyone to be mages

[urban spire]

didn't he want no one to be psykers

[fervent geode]

It is an authoritarian shithkle

No he wanted humanity to access the warp

[abstract vector]

no no Sisters of Silence is a necessary weapon

[fervent geode]

And be free of the gods

[vagrant fox]

I imagined it in my headcopium as him seeing it as a necessary evil for a better future but the future would never come along

[abstract vector]

He wanted Every human to evolve into becoming Psykers

[urban spire]

he couldn't imagine a future where he wasn't in charge, bitch made honestly

[fervent geode]

We will never know, the creation of the Senatorium Imperialis shows he was willing to cede some power

[fervent geode]

I keep hearing this, but idk when he said he wanted us to be a psychic race

[abstract vector]

Oh right, the emperor approved and He allowed Malcadore to let the council handle planets

[urban spire]

it's not real if he can just change his mind and take it back if he disapproves, it's just delegation

[fervent geode]

He was an authoritarian dickhead but he had some vision

[abstract vector]

It was iirc in the artbook I think or was codex

[fervent geode]

Yeap, made horus a little mad

[vagrant fox]

Master of Mankind talks about it a bit iirc

[fervent geode]

True enough, but he didnt

[fervent geode]

Ooh, i should probably reread HH one more time tbh

Beginning to get a little fuzzy

[urban spire]

that's self harm

[fervent geode]

It is

[abstract vector]

oh yeah

[fervent geode]

But at least i dont have the whole series

I know some nutcases who do

[vagrant fox]

And when the Imperium shields the entire species within the laws of my Pax Imperialis, when humanity is freed from the warp and united beneath my vision, I can at last shepherd mankind’s growth into a psychic race.

yeah united beneath his vision, the funny guy

[urban spire]

i'm starving, gonna make dinner

[fervent geode]

Lmao, not surprised

He was all too human

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/man-mustache-serious-cap-soldier-gif-16954157

[vagrant fox]

what a strange gif

[storm jungle]

best i can get typing "funny mustache man"

[near wasp]

Pov you compliment Hugo boss for his clothing design

[raven stone]

You know I just realised Emps is technically also doing Eugenics (albeit about psychic doodaddles in this case)

[fervent geode]

Heh he was a massive hypocrite, and i doubt it would have ever worked in the long run

[vagrant fox]

I sorta wish there was better, read that as less, characterisation of the emps in the HH. I really just want to know he was a dictator and a dick with a plan

[near wasp]

Everybody was doing eugenics in warhammer

[fervent geode]

Not really, it would just been like a psychic awakening, but he did do eugenics outside of that

[abstract vector]

IIRC Psykers can be forced by having warp shenanigans

[raven stone]

Everyone loved The Last Church but only half the fandom understood that was criticism, not validation.

[storm jungle]

He is yeah, he basically was attempting that by trying to guide humanity to be psykers among other shit like "genetic purity" by purging mutants etc

[abstract vector]

Emperor just needed like a conduit to become psykers

More Warp corruption then more chances to become psykers

[fervent geode]

He is a dick with a plan, but he was a very human one i guess, a very flawed and egotistical man, a very cruel and unsympathetic man, but in the end a man, even if he couldn't see it, just a man

[storm jungle]

Actually, it was validation. The author says the Emperor in the end is suppose to come off as "arrogant but correct", the issue is the author did such a shit job that the Emperor comes across as a fucking reddit atheist LMFAO

[fervent geode]

I reckon Drach'nyen reminded him of it

[storm jungle]

its such a bad short story

[vagrant fox]

yeah more or less

[fervent geode]

McNeill literally admits he knows little christian theology

[raven stone]

...what.
The author fucking fails at all levels then...

[vagrant fox]

Someone better versed in theological arguements should've written it so it was 4 hour dry as fuck and boring debate

[celest dome]

Honestly that was/is the best case scenario, something done in earnest that still show it in a bad light

[fervent geode]

So emps was going to be a reddit atheist

In fact

Assuming he is real

[storm jungle]

Its good imo, it makes the Emperor look like an absolute idiot.

[fervent geode]

He is probably a r/atheism mod

[abstract vector]

Probably Criticism about religion but author cant find good arguments why religion fanactacism is wrong?

[vagrant fox]

The more they write about the emperor the dumber he gets and it's kind of funny

[storm jungle]

^

[vagrant fox]

i also don't like it at the same time for some reason

[fervent geode]

Its hard to write an alleged genius, and they just run at it sometimes

[raven stone]

I mean, more the fact that the author decided The Emperor is ultimately "correct" is just... 🤦‍♂️

[fervent geode]

Lorgar lmao

[raven stone]

They clearly did not get the satire memo from GW

[fervent geode]

I dont even think James or BL is truly decided on the satite think atp

[storm jungle]

My favorite part is hes such a badly written character due to being written by all these different authors with their different takes right, yet the fandom constantly has to do the job of the writers and go "erm akshually he was a great smart man hes just [insert convenient excuse here]" constantly.

Hes just a bad character lol

[fervent geode]

They arr just running imo

[abstract vector]

Author wanted to criticise Religions and some sort of Age of Enlightenment with humanity not needing religious fanacticism

[storm jungle]

They have made an official statement regarding 40k still being satire

its just not as in your face as say Helldivers

[vagrant fox]

There's still some good moments if you go looking a bit

[fervent geode]

But they arent even sure i mean, look at the books

[raven stone]

Which apparently their own authors don't obey lol

[fervent geode]

I still think it is

[fervent geode]

He was a hypocrite and a very flawed man at core, which even they couldnt hide

[storm jungle]

Its still at the end of the day an official statement tbh, and its not really that old either.

[fervent geode]

Yeah i dont doubt it

[storm jungle]

They try to tbh, some authors act like hes wholly correct about galactic genocide

[fervent geode]

Just saying some of their authors dk

[abstract vector]

Emperor is against religion Fanacnatism but forgets that Athesim isnt just god bad

[vagrant fox]

At this point it feels to me like a series of nonsensical decisions strung together by a name. Kind of like most of the HH books tbh

[fervent geode]

Lmao the diasporex for example, no way in the four was that justified

[raven stone]

When your collaboration authors do not communicate with each other.

[abstract vector]

I guess the only necessary evil justified is the Chaos Corrupted planets

[vagrant fox]

I just kind of wish he was portrayed at someone very clever who could have done good for humanity and the wider galaxy but decided on this weird genocide course

[humble shoal]

Also isnt the emperors plan still pretty much ripped off of dune

[fervent geode]

I remember Fidelitas Lex being crashed and it suddenly came back somehow

[abstract vector]

IIRC Aliens are not trusted because of the dark age of technology era

[fervent geode]

Yeap they did horrible shit to people

But emps kills em willy nilly

[vagrant fox]

I mean some aliens were assholes yeah but considering the weapons they had and humanity wasn't united so they likely fought each other with those things

[fervent geode]

The kinebrach and diasporex are aliens who cooperate with humanitu

[abstract vector]

Older books mentioned how Aliens who were geniuenly friendly were wiped out or betrayed humanity

[humble shoal]

I blame the eldar

[storm jungle]

Its kinda what is shown. The Emperor literally could have just made a federation of alien/human planets but chose genocide instead.

[fervent geode]

Interex and Diasporex werent and still got blasted

[vagrant fox]

i blame the old ones

[fervent geode]

I know

[raven stone]

GW never makes this clear, and I wish they did, but you can argue the stupid Xenocide decision stems from Emperor deciding to hide Demons from the Imperium, and figured the best way to then deal with that is call them aliens instead...

[abstract vector]

yeah

[humble shoal]

I bet you an elgi was to blame

[fervent geode]

Idt he couldve, wasnt in his nature

He wanted control

[storm jungle]

Well yeah hence why i said he chose not to do it lol

[storm jungle]

shut up flat-ear

[fervent geode]

They wouldve been an external variable unlike his fellow man

[storm jungle]

go bang some rocks together

[abstract vector]

Kerillian is best waifu yes

[fervent geode]

Agreed then, he was a egotist hypocrite anyway

[vagrant fox]

c'est la vie, he's a genocider redditor to me now who killed his own uncle

[abstract vector]

Paranoid too

[fervent geode]

I am not a God said God

[abstract vector]

He let the stories of old night scared him

Not all xenos are asshole

[storm jungle]

Was it you who said he kills his uncle and instantly chooses that fascism is the way

[fervent geode]

Honestly that was one of the most justified kills he did at least, his uncle murdered his dsd

[abstract vector]

isnt that Cain and Abel?

[vagrant fox]

Something like that I think, it sets a strong precedent of an eye for an eye

[humble shoal]

Thats it, its going into the urinal servitor

[storm jungle]

thats brother killing brother

[fervent geode]

ADB was referencing it yes

[raven stone]

I find it shameful GW never piles on a very simple explanation: if GW wants Emps to be anti Chaos but hides Demons from Imperium at large, he uses actual Xenocide as a cover. Would make more evil sense.

[abstract vector]

I think Master of Mankind mentioned it

[fervent geode]

He believes giving knowledge of daemons will increase their power

[abstract vector]

its mentioned he made excuses for certain empires and their xeno allies to go extinct

[fervent geode]

So he denied then like reddit atheist

[humble shoal]

I like the idea that hes a puppet made by malcador

Who controls the 100 shamans with his funny eagle staff

[raven stone]

Well not loud enough since most people still think of the xebocide thing independently from the "keep Chaos secret" aspect

[fervent geode]

But he disagrees with malcador

[storm jungle]

That wasnt the case. They only "sanctioned" 1 alien race in the lore and then drove them extinct by using their genetic data to extent the lives of some nobility

[fervent geode]

And malcador is 10000 years younger than him

[fervent geode]

Yeah he brooked no cooperation with them

[humble shoal]

Sure he is

Perpetuals are propaganda

[fervent geode]

Ollanius Persson could tell ya so

[humble shoal]

Made by big malcador

[fervent geode]

I recall Ollanius and the Emperor at Babel

[humble shoal]

Malcador made it up

[fervent geode]

When Ollanius realised his evil

His willingness to use a chaotic tower of enuncia to enact his "vision"

That was poignant imo

[humble shoal]

Anyway were you there?

[fervent geode]

Yes

[humble shoal]

Next you are going to claim birds are real

[fervent geode]

That is insane

No way are birds real

[vagrant fox]

What did I eat if not a bird then

[celest dome]

I never really understood that Enuncia being Evil thing

Like I do understand that the way that one character was trying to research Enuncia was pretty evil, but as a thing it didn't seem good or bad

Though dangerous as it could blow your mouth out

[fervent geode]

That Enuncia tower in particular was made by the Chaos serving Cognitae

It was basically a psychic hell tower

I get why Ollanius wasnt keen

[abstract vector]

Tower of Babel was hinted to be chaos?

[fervent geode]

Enuncia itself can be good or bad

[fervent geode]

The tower in 40k is not the biblical one

[celest dome]

No it was trying to repeat the process to obtain part of the language

Enuncia being older

[abstract vector]

ah

[fervent geode]

Wayy older

Anyways the Necrons deserve to win 40k so the emperor is automatically wrong anyway

[humble shoal]

Thos galaxy was promised to us 1.2 billion years ago

[fervent geode]

Earlier than that

The silent king said so when we still had flesh🗣️ 🗣️

[humble shoal]

How he say that if silent

[fervent geode]

Whispered

[humble shoal]

Thats quiet not silent

[fervent geode]

Not in necrontyr it isnt

[near wasp]

Ok I'ma say it from a two matches that I played with it. I don't like hive scum

I feel like a single pox walker scraping me and all my health is gone

[dapper gyro]

Low level ganger is very weak.

Basically psyker, but more melee and gun, only shine when you hit max level.

[fervent geode]

Same, tbh went back to vet after hitting lvl 20

[near wasp]

How am I supposed to get to max level when I'm a breathing sandbag for my team

[fervent geode]

Run from enemies a lot in my bad experience at least

Use those autopistols

[dapper gyro]

Just play low level first

[fervent geode]

And the chem grenade when you get it

[dapper gyro]

Don't have to rush to malice before hitting 10.

[near wasp]

I'm on uprising bruh I can't go any lower

[dapper gyro]

Oh.. well, keep playing I guess.

Level 30 ganger is pretty strong.

[fervent geode]

Run, scum can run like crazy

Run, kill a little and run again

But i quit the class so yea

[near wasp]

I'm just glad the commisar can't kill me for that (yet)

[dapper gyro]

At 30, you want to run into the fight, the more you fight, the more buff you get, way more than other classes.

[fervent geode]

Take whatever i say with a grain of salt

[outer wave]

^

To Dein

[fervent geode]

Heh

[outer wave]

Hive Scum goes really hard when you get to level 20

[fervent geode]

Hmm maybe i should try again

[vagrant fox]

never stop dodging move like a crackhead

[outer wave]

^

[vagrant fox]

I'm quite fond of the class, it's good fun

[dapper gyro]

Very exhausting to play though

[raven stone]

You kinda need to keep zooming around and avoid getting locked down by hordes

Ironically I find Blinders a good use for that

Running that with Dual Barettas/Desperado for crowd clearing

Also get Blessed Stimms to help clear corruption

[outer wave]

Yeah, they dont have the best staggering, but their horde clearing/cleave is really nice at least

[dapper gyro]

Combat axe with Rampage can clear anything.

[raven stone]

Pretty much. I tried doing it with tox nades but Blinders win out on being self regen

[outer wave]

I should try that next

[raven stone]

If you don't run toxic, the game forces you to decide to focus on guns or Close Combat

[dapper gyro]

Desperado is only good vs trash mobs.

[outer wave]

Ive done Ruffian with rockets and crowbar and the stagger on it isnt bad

But not the best when you're being surrounded

[dapper gyro]

Well, more than trash mobs, but bigger foes significantly reduce its effectiveness.

[raven stone]

You pretty much leave the big enemies for anyone else if you run Desperado

[dapper gyro]

If you run Rampage, don't take the rocket, because the melee is strong enough to defeat everything.

[raven stone]

The Blind nades can help stun big enemies though

...WarCom is awfully quiet today

[queen laurel]

they did buff rocket launcher to have more aoe

i reserve it as a emergency armor column buster

[outer wave]

Yeah, havent played it much since the buff

Partly due to school and finals coming up

[queen laurel]

oh it's fun if close enough you can literally one shot 3 Bulwarks

[outer wave]

Yeah that AOE buff did wonders to it!

[rose thorn]

Hell incarnate lmao

[raven stone]

WAIT IT IS FINALLY OUT

Can finally get the paints and learn how to do this for my Inquisitor

[rose thorn]

uh, this waws already avaliabel ont eh citadel paints app

for like 8 years

5 years*

[raven stone]

...oh.
But actually, yes, the PDF version for Grotmas is also out I think

In the HH downloads section.

[rose thorn]

ye

if you are looking for how gw painted somethign i suggest just checking the citadel, there is a shopping list thing ont eh app to make a list of waht paints you need

[raven stone]

Is there any difference if I do manual painting rather than airbrush?

[rose thorn]

alot

[raven stone]

Damn :/

Might need to decide on new scheme or get an airbrush...

[rose thorn]

i think the alpha legion paint style is brushed on

airbrushes paitn idfferently

and lets you apply thinner layers

[raven stone]

Hmm...I have a lot of Marines to sacrifice on the paint altar

I could see if I can manually thin it out to the same effect I guess

[dapper gyro]

You don't have to do exactly what they show though, you can develop your own technics. Slightly different in colours is not the end.

[raven stone]

True, as long as it looks close enough

[rose thorn]

alto of alphalegion apinted i know make their own bathwater concotion they dip their minis in to apint them

[dapper gyro]

Most of the pro painters have different protocol of painting, all of the painting competitors barely use any "official guide".

[rose thorn]

they prime htem with lead belcher and then drown the mini in theri wicked pot of contsrat paitnsa nd layer paints

[raven stone]

OK, yea, will just use the guide for thr colour reference

[humble shoal]

My marines are grey

and still in the box

[raven stone]

Very understandable TBH

[dapper gyro]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/8/80/RevilersPrimaris.jpg

Revilers, RG successor, specialist in disguise as mould injection plastic.

[near wasp]

My minis arnt unpainted there just unnumbered sons

[jade holly]

Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

I don’t know which damn army to start with

I wanna get a 40k army now but idk which one damnit

Right now my eyes are on:
Iron Warriors
Iron Hands
Necrons
Death Guard

Iron Hands… prob a pain to paint (those damn Techmarines)

[jagged monolith]

Necrons or Death Guard if you want an actual range

[jade holly]

I know IW and IH are just detachments in their respective codexes

I think I’m gonna not overcomplicate this and stick with Necrons

[near wasp]

Watch out for the phosper green paint if you necron

[jade holly]

Glory to the Infinite Empire

[near wasp]

It's a pain to work with in persona experience

[jagged monolith]

Profile pic checks out, good choice mate 👍

[fervent geode]

I've had much fun with necrons in kill team, excellent choice

[jade holly]

Hell yeah

Besides the codex, since I wanna start slow cause I need literally EVERYTHING

What else should I get for Necrons in phase 1

I need: the materials to paint and build (even brushes and glue), a spray painter (unless I can prime by hand), dice for tabletop, tape measure, a way to count wounds, a way to store the army

The army itself

[fervent geode]

The 40k core book, but i suppose thats a given

Besides that i'd say you know already

[jade holly]

I think for now I’ll stick with the Necron codex and the Core Book

[jagged monolith]

Maybe get the painting/building supplies first and then the gameplay accessories, probably a good way to split up your purchases

[jade holly]

Keep it simple

I know for sure last is actually starting the army

And I think I’ll get the Combat Patrol for that

but then I need to ask myself, what style of Necron army do I want

Can’t wait to get all this stuff then a new codex comes out for 11e making it worthless

[jagged monolith]

Szarekhan Dynasty? Given your name 😎

[jade holly]

Wait, why choose?

I can field them both at the same time lmao

Imotekh and Szarekh are on the warpath

[outer wave]

I assume you were talking about the Rashad using its push attack?

[rocky gale]

Another painting guide for space marines

We're all so lucky this grotmas

[urban spire]

wish my skin could look like that

[jade holly]

When are we getting a mini of this guy?

Ramatekh the Cruel

[wet sandal]

i wouldn't hold your breath

an obscure xenos character? yeah good luck with that

[fervent geode]

Yeah probably never sadly

I just want Anrakyr the Traveller back

[near wasp]

Just get a destroyer squad

Why are you niceing that

I was just telling him what to get

[fervent geode]

Fuxk

[near wasp]

XD

[fervent geode]

I read thats what you got

Lmao

Mb

[near wasp]

For my necrons I'm doing a flayer infected army with some models caked in various amounts of blood

[fervent geode]

Ooh very nice

[near wasp]

Some will be full flayers some will just have a bit

[fervent geode]

Sounds like a nice mix, i've only done gotten Kill Team Hierotek Circle rn for crons

[near wasp]

I got my buddy that for a wedding gift

[fervent geode]

Heh, you shoulda been best man for that

[near wasp]

I didn't go

I had work

[fervent geode]

Ya certainly made up for it

[arctic talon]

this is literally just the Skorpekh destroyer lord mini with the hexmark destroyer head

do it yourself

its not like kitbashing is some long lost dead art

[arctic talon]

He's a kitbash of 2 existing kits so you can just do it yourself lol

and its a simple one as well

just need to tear the head off

[wet sandal]

all the more reason there's not gonna be a separate mini

[arctic talon]

all the soulforge/Horus Heresy legion card characters

are generally doable with kitbashing and some light greenstuff work at most

lol

[languid meadow]

would be cool to get some rules for them but I understand why they don't

idk I've never played warpforge

[arctic talon]

Death to the Orokin

For the Orokin

[languid meadow]

old peace spoilers

I loved the ending sequence

[arctic talon]

Its good

||also making the whole devil thing literal||

[copper patrol]

I mean did anyone ever stop wanting to beat ballas to death? (haven't played it yet)

[arctic talon]

No

but now you want to even harder

is all I'll say lol

||all the Orokin politics in the background are great in Old Peace, genuinely wish the quest lasted longer||

||I love all the Orokin era stuff so much tbh||

[languid meadow]

seeing primer gineer was so awesome

[surreal nest]

is steam geeking for anybody rn i keep dropping connection

[arctic talon]

I love grineer prime™

[wet sandal]

thursday

[surreal nest]

isnt that tuesday bro

[wet sandal]

idk

[vagrant fox]

usually

and my steam's fine

[wet sandal]

[near wasp]

I clicked the wrong person

Mork and gork dammit

[urban spire]

its gork and mork

[near wasp]

You would say that

You clearly arnt enlightened by the great green

To the person who deleted there post. Cadians included because even though the planets gone they exported so many guardsman that millions are still around in the galaxy.

[arctic talon]

Also there’s a fuck ton of new cadia’s

[near wasp]

And they are like the default guardsman choice

[arctic talon]

This has been lore since 3e

💀

So even though Cadia blew up

They’re not gona run out

Cadians also don’t really use any weirdly patterned gear

Most of their stuff is just the standard issue

[celest dome]

You can never defeat a stick, break it in 2, and you have 2 sticks

[arctic talon]

It’s literally just the cadian pattern sentinels iirc

lol

Those are the only cadian exclusive thing

Elysians also stick pretty close to standard issue guard kit for drop troops

Aside from the guns and specific chute pattern

[jade holly]

Yeah but no special rules smh

[arctic talon]

Named characters usually suck so it’s better for you

[humble shoal]

No purple eyes means not a true cadian

[arctic talon]

Cadian racism time

[near wasp]

I mean you weren't born on cadia you wouldn't get it man

[jade holly]

Cadians are a finite amount

Together, we can wipe them out

[arctic talon]

LOL

[arctic talon]

Also of all the people to give special rules that dude is literally a nobody, there’s way more famous Necrons with 0 rules lol

[surreal nest]

And if I disagree

[copper patrol]

explodes you

[arctic talon]

You’re dumb and I sentence you to reading the necron imperial armor books so we can revive Alan Bligh from the dead so he can make Fires of Cyraxus and the necron vs dark eldar book after that

[surreal nest]

Oh my god new discord update it let's me automatically react with my favorite emote

[near wasp]

The VA of doug dimsdale owner of the dimsdale dimmadome has past

[raven stone]

PETA - the true "stop having fun" guys

Found on FB :p

[near wasp]

Peta can go die in a hole, talking about euthanizing animals. They kill so many animals

Killing people's dogs. Running kill shelters. Evil organization that claims they are the righteous

[outer wave]

Me, my wife, and my boyfriend

[dapper gyro]

Just typical light spam and heavy vs armoured.

[outer wave]

Really? I always found its cleave to be lacking

I'd at least get it if you were using its push attack

[rose thorn]

Peak

[dapper gyro]

You can run brutal momentum, or just pick the 2 cleave nodes at the bottom.

[outer wave]

Mmmmm I see I see

I may give that a shot

[plush mason]

correction their stuff is the standard issue

at least for the armor

[opaque coyote]

How to be a proper guardsman

Step 1) Wear vomit covered uniforms

Step 2) Grab a flashlight

Step 3) die

Step 4 (optional)

If you are Cadian, blow yourself up

[lament shoal]

And if somehow you end up being good enough, they'll put you in an elite regiment/unit where you'll carry out missions in which your chances of death are even higher than they were before

[raven stone]

Warhammer 40,000, where being assigned to a Suicide Squad is a glorious promotion for martyrdom.

[lament shoal]

GET OUT OF MY FUCKING FEED

WHY IS THIS SUB THERE

[arctic talon]

Block the sub

[winter pine]

I love the Horus Galaxy types who get genuinely offended when I say I hope Abaddon wins lmao

Encountered a few in the wild

[storm jungle]

this is their THIRD subreddit btw

[opaque coyote]

The Imperium gears is oiled by the blood of martyrs

With it's fuel being cruelty

[winter pine]

I ❤️ ban evasion

[lament shoal]

Already did 👍

[winter pine]

I thought they were going to leave for Facebook when Horus Galaxy got banned lmao

[storm jungle]

The most hilarious part is right, you cant report subreddits on reddit

so they literally got banned twice from word of mouth from how awful they are

[opaque coyote]

They're so unemployed they're employed to be unemployed for $0 an hour

[storm jungle]

cant happen a third time fast enough

[wet willow]

What's the one before Horus galaxy?

[winter pine]

I thought Galaxy was the first one

[valid needle]

Based lol, lmao even.

[valid needle]

It was

Horus galaxy, something something, eye of terror.

[storm jungle]

1. HorusGalaxy
2. VengefulSpirit
3. EyeOfTerror (current)

these fucking names are so fucking ironic

[valid needle]

Can tell they are chaos fans lol

[dapper gyro]

I actually like that one Cadia episode in Hammer and Bolter (despite the shit tier animation), that stated that being Cadian is no longer about the place, but about the standard to achieve.

[storm jungle]

They arent tbh, literally the entire subreddit is imperium slop

[valid needle]

Which one?

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats usually how subreddits get nuked

[valid needle]

What’s with the names then?

[storm jungle]

They are unironically acting like they are fighting against oppression or some shit

[valid needle]

The one with the word bearer or the other one

[raven stone]

Yea this is very jaundiced unless they specify PDF (and even then there is the bigger issue of, well, Imperium)

[storm jungle]

someone said it way back

[dapper gyro]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15223372/?ref_=ttep_ep_8

[valid needle]

Mfs can’t just be happy with us being the baddies.

[valid needle]

Oh yeah the other one, I liked that too.

[raven stone]

Yea look the other reason why I think some people are stupid are the ones who are convinced Chaos are misunderstood good guy rebel fighters...

[storm jungle]

Yeah but they are nowhere near numerous as imperium stans

[valid needle]

Both extreme ends are off their nut tbh

[abstract vector]

God I hate 10 frame rate animation

it looked very jank

its only carried by the story

[dapper gyro]

It is not an animation, it is a powerpoint presentation.

[raven stone]

Not as vocal perhaps, which doesn't guarantee less numbers ...

[valid needle]

It’s the two extreme ends that ruin it tbh. This server for example, I’m a non extreme end imperium stan and I get on fine with everyone here.

[storm jungle]

Nah, ive been in this fandom for 13 years. The amount of imperium stans compared to chaos chuds ive seen is astronomical.

[winter pine]

The imperium stans are usually deranged internet fascists

[storm jungle]

^

[raven stone]

Same for me, I recognize Imperium are scuffed/villain protagonists and don't think they deserve full protection from criticism (even if I am a bit more lenient out of bias)

[storm jungle]

they are WAY more numerous

[valid needle]

You cannot ragebait me

[storm jungle]

because the Imperium is the main characters + got the space-fascist vibe people love

ala Helldivers

[fervent geode]

I despise the Imperium and i agree with Corswain, alot of them are fine afaik

[winter pine]

nah I didn't mean it like that, it's specifically the Horus Galaxy types

[fervent geode]

Well those guys will be those guys

[storm jungle]

Yeah but the Imperium side still has way more chuds

we are not exactly making this up

[fervent geode]

This is probably true

[storm jungle]

the most people i ban here always got loyalist marine pfps

[fervent geode]

Lmao

[storm jungle]

I had a pic hold on

[near wasp]

You know what we are the baddies and I'm sick of pretending that we arnt

[winter pine]

Am I correct in guess it's at least 80% Black Templars?

lmao

[raven stone]

Now let's be a bit fair, Marine Chuds are the precise ones...most "Imperium Chuds" only like MAHREENS and nothing else.

Not the Guard. Not Sisters

[storm jungle]

Mostly yes lmfao

[raven stone]

They only cared about Custodes because MUH FEMSLES

[fervent geode]

They are just a caricature basically

[storm jungle]

Usually. Ive seen plenty of Inquisitor pfp users be weird too, same with Sister/Guard ones.

[valid needle]

Steel Legion > Half the marine chapters in the imperium.

[near wasp]

I'm a imperium fan. Sisters of silence and stodes are my favorite

[raven stone]

OK then now I am very sad indeed to see how deep the taint goes

[fervent geode]

Replace it with Kasrkin and i agree

[fervent geode]

Insanity

[valid needle]

I hate custodes but I respect your choice

[near wasp]

Here's where I'd put my new sos models..... If there were any!!!!!

[raven stone]

I bet you 90% of Internet Krieg Chuds wouldn't know that without Steel Legion there would be no Death Korps

[abstract vector]

Elysian Better

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/if-i-had-one-angry-yelling-fairly-odd-parents-mr-turner-gif-16322274

[sacred ginkgo]

The last one had chaser behaviors within a few hours of joining

Highly entertaining

[valid needle]

The mfs had one god damn job “protect Big E” and they fucked it up.

[opaque coyote]

The literal Crux of the Horus Heresy is that they were basically fighting to be the oppressors themselves

[fervent geode]

I like when Elysians got cooked by the Word Bearers in Dark Apostle

[near wasp]

It's ok you can lock me in a room until I repent because my next favorite is fallen

[valid needle]

Nah that’s based, you are redeemed.

[fervent geode]

They crux of the imperium is that it is a feudal authoritarian nightmare that oppresses and destroys willy nilly

[valid needle]

It’s crazy when my favourite legion is single handedly the best loyalists and the best traitors

[opaque coyote]

Asmodai after seeing someone accidentally cough in front of an emperor statue:

[fervent geode]

And somehow could be worse

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-sonic-gif-16480151311255377524

[abstract vector]

Now you get a video game too

Keeper of Secrets vs The Stealer of Secrets

[raven stone]

Do you mean Dark Angels or Alpha Legion :p (I jest, your pfp tells me the answer)

[opaque coyote]

Seriously it is genuinely a miracle that he didn't fall to Slaanesh

[valid needle]

I don’t think Alpha legion even know what Alpha legion is doing at this point

[opaque coyote]

Even among the DA, he's basically considered a freak

[fervent geode]

They really dont, they are prob more fragmented than the NL

[opaque coyote]

Tbf, that's because their leadership might as well be gone.

Most of them are basically just doing their own thing.

[fervent geode]

Akurra and most of their ilk are basically full CSM

[abstract vector]

it depends because only a Minority remembered their mission

[winter pine]

The impression I got from Harrowmaster is the Alpha Legion knows there was some kind of plan during the Heresy but all the guys who knew it are either dead or MIA

[abstract vector]

everyone else become Fireverous charron

[fervent geode]

Yeah basically

And now no one cares

Except a few dweebs like Occam or peeps lost in time like Kassar

[valid needle]

Well on that. Have you read dropsite massacre?

[winter pine]

Solomon being "fuck it who cares let's do our own thing now" was fun

[near wasp]

The funny part is the dark angels are traitors and the fallen are loyalist

[raven stone]

In b4 GW recons both twins to have split personalities as well in a ham fisted attempt to make it even more confusing!

[fervent geode]

Well not much else to do imho

[winter pine]

I'm woefully behind on the heresy books

[fervent geode]

Both twins had different characters anyway

[abstract vector]

Still weird No books for Alpha Legion 40k remembering the plans

Everything is just Do their own thing

[fervent geode]

They would have to be very old

[valid needle]

Well. Some of the fallen. The dark angels forgot that all of the loyal dark angels who went down to the surface with the lion also got sucked into the warp with Luther’s loyalists.

[fervent geode]

Since they mostly were outside the eye most of the old guard are dead

[abstract vector]

Not all of them but there should he atleast one warband who kept the mission and its passed on through future generations

[winter pine]

Next book I'm reading is the new Grotsnik: Da Mad Dok

[fervent geode]

Its possible Arkos the Faithless from the Siege of Vraks was in on it lmao

[near wasp]

None of the original alpha legion Marines are alive

[valid needle]

Well I won’t spoil it heavy but

[fervent geode]

He was Alpharius' Equerry

[valid needle]

||alpha legion are basically the reason that the Sallie’s, RG and IH survive.||

[near wasp]

It's actually unironically peak

[winter pine]

as all ork books should be tbqh

[fervent geode]

Very few are iirc

Kassar, Arkos and Carthach come to mind

[lament shoal]

I heard Brutal Kunnin is good too

[fervent geode]

But they all want different things so who knows

[fervent geode]

It is

Very orky book

[valid needle]

||in dropsite massacre it heavily hints that the alpha legion under Omegon are loyalist||

[winter pine]

Brutal Kunnin's scene were they discuss why humans leave all the good scrap out then get mad when the orks come to get it makes me laugh every time

[abstract vector]

Lore Mentioned some of the Alpha Legion from the HH still alive but they’re a minority who fled into the warp

[winter pine]

dey ain't logickal

[fervent geode]

||makes sense, omegon prob sent his guys to activate the loyal AL beneath Terra||

[abstract vector]

TFW they finally wrote ||Omegon|| being disslussioned and ||his sons try to help the imperium||

[valid needle]

||yes and it seems First Captain Pesh was loyalist||

[fervent geode]

||i always believed Omegon was the first-found, raised by Malcador, he would never truly betray them, even if he hung along with cabal||

[near wasp]

None of that matters because al are nerds you can easily punch

[fervent geode]

||he definitely was, have you read TEATD I||

Dont want to spoil what he did

[winter pine]

When you know that Omegon faked his death and stole the identity of Cypher but you can't prove it

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-surprise-mf-can't-prove-it-gif-7408854170742055240

[fervent geode]

He definitely didnt die at cursed Eskrador

Someone must be doing this

[near wasp]

That'd actually be crazy

[fervent geode]

Why would Celestine give the Beacon to an AL Captain

[near wasp]

Because he's the lesser of many evils

[fervent geode]

Why would the AL spare Mathieu when they killed all others

Why would a lone marine save Ursarkar Creed

There is a connection i swear

The Emperor has a man on their side i swear

[valid needle]

Not yet I’m still working my way through. I’ve read lions HH primarch book, Dark Angels storyline, mechanicum story line, main storyline up to fulgrim, read fulgrim, just finished dropsite massacre, just started Guillimans primarch book so I can begin the ultramarines storyline.

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[fervent geode]

Aight sounds great ngl

Tbh after the first five HH books you can go wherever ya want

Have fun readin

[fervent geode]

Me rn

Anyways the AL are dicks who shouldve been purged from both sides

[valid needle]

Using this guide trying to do each legion or faction in chronological order until I converge on the buried dagger https://gaming.kylebb.com/hhtimeline/

Didn’t think I would like mechanicum story line but lowkey really enjoyed them

[fervent geode]

Itll be alot for every book tho ngl, i just followed my legion's storyline, but i respect the effort greatly

[fervent geode]

Yeah, i didnt expect to love the ultramarines until KNF, many surprises

[lament shoal]

The ultramarines are a cool chapter when you ain't got a bitch in your ear telling you they're not

[valid needle]

I don’t read too much besides warhammer so it’s not too bad.

[fervent geode]

Ahh youll be fine then, i like other storylines or other stuff so i didnt have the time or money for everything

[near wasp]

Ultramarines are cool

[fervent geode]

They were very cool as a legion too, and Gman is surprisingly crazy for a primarch

[valid needle]

Yeah I wasn’t really a reader until I got into warhammer so it’s kind of my main thing now lol

[near wasp]

But they are definitely the poster boys for all the good and bad that comes with that

[fervent geode]

Heh, my first foray into fiction in a long time too

[fervent geode]

Yup, thats where most the hate comes from

[near wasp]

Never gonna forget dude strolling into a nuclear blast to throw hands with morty

[fervent geode]

And also the kind of hyperfixation on them

[lament shoal]

Yeah him and the Lion mellowed out after the heresy lol

[fervent geode]

Ill never forget Guilliman punching off WB to death in spess

[near wasp]

That's not a spoiler bro

It's literally a book cover

[fervent geode]

The lion was kind of a surprise to me, but gman i get, he was really mad after calth

[fervent geode]

True enough, worried our friend earlier hadnt gotten to it

[lament shoal]

Gman still has that nerd rage in him tho lol

[fervent geode]

Aurelian thought he was a dick at Khur

He finally saw Gman rage at Calth and Nuceria, lets say he was surprised and slightly guilty iirc

[winter pine]

I'm going to be very disappointed if the final enemy to the next Space Marine game isn't Word Bearers

[lament shoal]

Wasn't there a book where some ECs saw Guilliman charging at them and for the first time they felt fear?

[raven stone]

It is a clear toss up between Word Bearers and Black Legion at this point…

[fervent geode]

Me too

Although i certainly wouldnt mind Necrons as the enemy

[lament shoal]

GW forgot the word bearers existed so don't get your hopes up

Would be cool tho

[fervent geode]

Nah during the ultra mad protesy

The GW rep wore a WB shirt

[winter pine]

[fervent geode]

This mean Lorgar will return in 11e trust

[winter pine]

I love how just absurdly evil and malevolent Word Bearers are lmao

[fervent geode]

They found the truth

The four as uncaring, cruel and horrendous as they are, are the galaxy's gods

[valid needle]

Hearsay.

[fervent geode]

Heresy*

[valid needle]

Lion El’Ritchie

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/destiny_thememe/status/1999155139131670571?s=20 30 mins

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[near wasp]

Cruel

[arctic talon]

Truth nuke

[storm jungle]

PLEASE GABE I NEED THIIIIIS

MY FANDOM IS KINDA HALF-LIFELESS

https://tenor.com/view/my-mom-is-kinda-homeless-ishowspeed-speeding-please-speed-i-need-this-ishowspeed-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-16620227105127147208

[dapper gyro]

I like how Bloodborne doesn't even ask for a sequel, but just a PC port.

[fervent geode]

We are that starved, just give 60fps sony

[languid meadow]

honestly it doesn't need a sequel imo

[arctic talon]

Sony isn’t letting go till bloodborne is a dessicated corpse

lol

[fervent geode]

It is already peak enough tbh

[languid meadow]

Look at Killzone bro at most we're getting collabs

[lament shoal]

I remember playing the killzone 2 demo as a kid and having a blast

[languid meadow]

but we'll prob get uh

dark heresy or rogue trader stuff

hopefully

[spring cairn]

15 mns

[storm jungle]

It aint happening

The forces of the very universe and reality itself are against us

[spring cairn]

silence

[storm jungle]

We gotta accept it

[spring cairn]

it is happening

u chud

[storm jungle]

no u

im doing this for you Lambda

expect nothing and not be devastated

[jade holly]

Space Marine 3

[spring cairn]

i can't be devastated

[jade holly]

[spring cairn]

i'm too chill and zen

[storm jungle]

You speak to a practitioner of Dudeism

[spring cairn]

if it's not for TGA it's for early 2026

[storm jungle]

you have no power

[jade holly]

Dude…

[storm jungle]

THE Dude

[jade holly]

The Dude who dudes the other dudes

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-coen-brothers-joel-coen-ethan-coen-jeff-bridges-gif-14873468

[near wasp]

Untrue for he was still but a baby when he began killing the creatures of the dark forest

[storm jungle]

the Dark Forest is Central Park, New York in this case

🫡

[vagrant fox]

That's mildly funny

[paper haven]

I think Lion turned out pretty well considering his upbringing

[valid needle]

Mildly thank you

[crystal forum]

25 now

what a tragedy

quarter of a century

[vagrant fox]

here's to another 75 shitty ones

oh fugg divinity

[arctic talon]

Larien trolling lmao

saying "its not divinity 3"

anyways who wants valrak slop

[vagrant fox]

At this hour? Why not

Larian's a funny bunch

[arctic talon]

New Defiler is coming. Bits to customize it for any of the 5 main "gods" (undivided, khorne, slaanesh and so on)

New Mutilators with weapons options

Iron warriors CP with Havocs, legionaries, termies and a Warpsmith
iron warriors upgrade sprue is coming with helmets, shoulderpads for both legionaries and termies, a daemon hammer for marines and a powerfist for termies

Apparently 3 other battleforces for WE TS and EC. planned before end of edition

[vagrant fox]

I'll take it even if it means another thousand snoozes

[storm jungle]

More Iron Warriors?

yeah okay the Perturabo rumors might be true lol

[hallow saddle]

its just one small upgrade sprue atm thats it

its not like the night lords one apparentlky

[storm jungle]

in another earlier leak it was said IW would also be getting upgrade sprues alongside a Peter release

we'll see

[hallow saddle]

i mean that would be poggers

[storm jungle]

a traitor primarch is deffo coming that we know at least

Russ was for next edition according to multiple rumors, would also follow with the pattern GW releases Slopmarchs usually

[hallow saddle]

id probably buy the pert model

[vagrant fox]

Perturbo seems like a sensible choice

[hallow saddle]

its bound to be cool

[storm jungle]

yeah hot take but Daemon Primarchs are way more cooler than loyalist primarch minis

because they all look actually creative lol

[storm jungle]

they were aiming to connect with Vashtorr on tabletop for corporate gameplay reasons apparently

so prob more rumor onto the pile

[vagrant fox]

More lore sloppa for me

[hallow saddle]

i wonder if we'll get pert at the end of this edition and then russ in 11th edition maybe

[storm jungle]

Russ is 100% next edition

[vagrant fox]

Not sure I'm keen on connecting Perts and the IW to Vashtorr much but lets see how it goes

[near wasp]

honestly it just makes logical sense

[humble shoal]

I was looking up the old nude custodes picture

[abstract vector]

Pertuabo is probably next due to Vashtorr Story

[humble shoal]

and someehow I found a 40k thirst trap (like tabletop)

[abstract vector]

I do wonder IF they make Vashtorr a Failed God or he achieved godhood but he isn't strong enough to challenge the other gods ala Skaven God

[near wasp]

vashtor is a simple businessman

[fervent geode]

Lorgar trust

He would be the perfect antagonist for the ultras, and he is already stated to be active since 8e

[abstract vector]

500 morbillion corrupted Tech Adepts

[near wasp]

hes a nerd who wont leave his man cave because the bird

[abstract vector]

Need Corvus to return

[fervent geode]

No, the bird has become a mere legend among the legion

[abstract vector]

Corvus bullying his brother 24/7

[fervent geode]

In apocalypse amatnim says no one has seen him or heard from him in millenia

The bird is gone

Killed or left on his own accord

[abstract vector]

Reminder Corvus became a warp entity

He watches over Lorgar

[fervent geode]

He is, as a primarch being in the eye just unlocked his potential

[tough haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib25Xpx3a1w&list=PLNObDr_wLDWA6TsSYV_2Ja4XqQmMWq6SS&index=4

lyrics go hard

[fervent geode]

Amatnim says Lorgar is active and he doesn't

[tough haven]

rare to get good necron fanmade songs

or any at all

[tough haven]

All primarchs are

[fervent geode]

It was in Apocalypse of the SM conquests series

[tough haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiWBduWy0Xw&list=PLNObDr_wLDWA6TsSYV_2Ja4XqQmMWq6SS&index=76

I LOVE NECRONS!!!

[abstract vector]

Pariahs soon

Bet

[fervent geode]

Lorgar knows all of Enuncia too, i doubt the bird could counter that

[tough haven]

Theyre just so fucking badass

[fervent geode]

He always sought to deny fate

[fervent geode]

Indeed

[near wasp]

necrons slap

[nocturne crest]

No man sky won the award for best ongoing game, beating HD2 and Final Fantasy.

[storm jungle]

Well deserved ngl

[vagrant fox]

Yeah that's fair

[celest cedar]

new star wars and divinity

[abstract vector]

No Man Sky is winning and thank god they didn't just dip back then

[celest cedar]

@storm jungle ay

got anotha one

[storm jungle]

Lmao not again

[celest cedar]

so apparently theres emperor glazing there as well 💀

[storm jungle]

YEP I SAW

We had a guy like that in theorychat today so another one i guess

[celest cedar]

good god

[languid meadow]

New star wars and divinity are my highlights

[vagrant fox]

Divinity and Control had me bussin

[dapper gyro]

Tomb raider actually looks interesting.

[near wasp]

this summoned me

i will not have my faction disrespected

[storm jungle]

Timed em both out

one is going on about abetting genocide

[near wasp]

[storm jungle]

the other is being mildly sexist

i dont have time for this shit im watching Wolf Amongus

[near wasp]

furry

no no wait

[storm jungle]

hes a literal wolf

GETOU-

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[storm jungle]

🫡

[near wasp]

i keep meaning to play some darktide but i keep getting ditracted

[celest cedar]

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-amogus-singing-gif-5049958546468496340

[celest cedar]

reading all that was cringe

[near wasp]

face the wall for that gif

thats horrid

[opaque coyote]

amogus

[storm jungle]

Be sure to compile the shit the sus shit they say next time

makes the possible banning job easier

[near wasp]

why do i bother looking in gen chat

[celest cedar]

gotta put you to the wringer first yanno

[storm jungle]

Never bother, trust me.

[celest cedar]

gotcha tho Ill make sure to send more

[near wasp]

@lament shoal what have you caused

[opaque coyote]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE SPACE MARINE CLASS HASN'T BE ADDED TO DARKTIDE????

[near wasp]

i keep tryna play my orgryn but im rping so hard i keep forgetting to play the game

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I know he is running with the ball but tbh I thought he was tiptoeing

When I first saw it

[surreal nest]

Both

Its a sassy run

[near wasp]

tiptoe through the tulips begins to play

[languid meadow]

Elsa Bloodstone and Deadpool in rivals next season

[near wasp]

bro i played rivals for like a few weeks and all i did was play luna snow and get yelled at for being useless

[dapper gyro]

I'm actually surprise that they bring in Elsa Bloodstone.

I used to have a figure of her, way before she joined Deadpool in the comic.

[nocturne crest]

Damn.

E33 winning alot of awards tonight

[storm jungle]

Rivals?

[storm jungle]

also deserved tbh

[nocturne crest]

Yep.

[storm jungle]

and I dont even play or know anything about the game

[nocturne crest]

Surprisingly not voiced by Nolan North for once.

[near wasp]

wait game awards

[storm jungle]

Oh no North? Thank fuck

[nocturne crest]

Tbh, I'm just wishing Hades 2 won more awards.

[near wasp]

am i gonna have to ragebait twitter tomarrow

[storm jungle]

we're not getting a Half Life 3 reveal so yes

[nocturne crest]

There are two Tomb Raiders game. One a remake of the original trio, and a new game.

[near wasp]

ok that ragebait has lost its tang after like 20 years

[celest cedar]

lizard sex (is this too nsfw)

[near wasp]

its not gonna be like me ragebaiting twitter cause a peanut won vtuber of the year

[celest cedar]

Divinity trailer be WILDIN

[nocturne crest]

100%

[dapper gyro]

And the new game is the continuation of the old series and not the "reboot" one.

[nocturne crest]

Also, the Diablo dlc looked neat.

[near wasp]

BRO my dnd might force me to play that when it comes out.

[nocturne crest]

Showing how brutal Paladins can be.

[near wasp]

i suffered through div 2

[celest cedar]

oh Im looking forward for divinity

I should replay DOS2...

[storm jungle]

Ayo???

[nocturne crest]

Can someone ask Ben Starr for Darktide.

[celest cedar]

as someone rooting for Dispatch

[nocturne crest]

BTW, the company that made Soma made a new game, and it looks amazing.

[celest cedar]

is this how it felt like for non bg3 fans

back in 2024 💀

[storm jungle]

Yes.

Dispatch is peak imo but its not super-award worthy

[dapper gyro]

It is a good game.