40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

And you're frustrated because you thought you got them all

But no, you're missing one collectable

Time to go back and search all over for that ONE FUCKING COLLECTABLE

[signal bramble]

They’re so petty, evil, and spiteful that it loops back around to being comical in some ways.

[zenith remnant]

They aren't even secret chaos worshippers. They're just dicks.

[jade holly]

Is there any cool way to write the BT besides “Heretic and Xenos killing knights”?

[zenith remnant]

That's kind of their entire thing.

[signal bramble]

“Devoted warriors determined to erase everything big E finds disagreeable.”

[wary fulcrum]

When you hear ‘Captain we have to go back, there’s a civilian down there’

😍

When you see it’s an MM

😨

[zenith remnant]

Like. You're asking us a similar question to, "What if a Space Wolf wasn't a space viking"

[jade holly]

I meant in a more philosophical and symbolic way

Cause yeah they be knights who kill

But how does it get shown? Like from a civilian point of view

[signal bramble]

I mean granted nothing else can be the “most evil” so long as the Drukhari are around but the MM are up there.

[wary fulcrum]

There was a short story years ago, a small BT army was fighting a huge Khorne horde led by a dude with power scissors for an arm

Tensions were flaring because the ranking sergeant kept pulling them back and shooting rather than charging in

Eventually the Khorne turned on each other trying to get any kind of fight and the BT swept up the rest

[opaque coyote]

"Khorne what about you?"

"They torture people. Ew"

"Slaanesh?"

"Their torture methods are boring."

"Nurgle?"

"They're healthy."

"...Tze-"

"No."

"Alright, what about you Dark King- oh right you haven't manifested yet."

"...so how do we attract them to Chaos?"

"Uhhh-"

[wary fulcrum]

You could write them whichever way you wanted

Focus on the Euro central propaganda for the crusades. They genuinely believe they’re saving the souls of the planets they liberate and keeping people safe

They can be kind to humans whilst still murdering any psykers they find

[opaque coyote]

I honestly think that the best way to counter Chaos is to be content.

Like actually fully content.

[jade holly]

To me, idk if this is actually how they’re being written right now, but I see the BT as indiscriminate destroyers. Hellbent on wiping out Xenos and heretics to the point any humans on the planet they show up on would be damned by association

[wary fulcrum]

How do you turn them to chaos? Show them a salamander chapter badge

[opaque coyote]

Corruption would still happen, but you can't be tempted if you're genuinely happy about your life

[opaque coyote]

Considering they casually killed a person who just had a different eye color

Yeah, right on the money

[jade holly]

They act like honorable knights, yet slaughter anyone who is on their warpath

Extremists who value the idea of killing Xenos over protecting humanity

[opaque coyote]

Not just killing xenos

Xenos, mutants, and Heretics

[jade holly]

Just pure unbridled religious zealots who became what the Emperor despised in the Word Bearers

[opaque coyote]

So Abhumans, even sanctioned, have their life span shortened even more if they hear the Black Templars are coming

[jade holly]

and this time no Big E to stop it from growing

[wary fulcrum]

To be fair, ‘abhor the alien, the mutant, the heretic’ is pretty much the motto of the imperium

[opaque coyote]

The Word Bearers think they're crazy

That's how crazy they are

[jade holly]

I like to imagine each of the main space marine chapters represent one flaw or trait of humanity

[late verge]

the most depressing part is that they do this with humans just as often lol

[opaque coyote]

This is basically a good summarization of them tbh:

https://youtu.be/F4FBKOL29no?si=_bF4TgSkX3SJoVor

[jade holly]

Iron Hands are the apathy and indifference of humanity, Salamanders the determination and compassion, BT the view of when humanity has nothing left to cling to but faith

[opaque coyote]

Also on a related note

[signal bramble]

And the MM are that part of us that wants to stop someone from merging so they miss their turn.

[jade holly]

Is it weird I view the Imperium of man as a more symbolic thing?

[opaque coyote]

"I will torture his body so that his soul learns to be humble" is something I can definitely see being said by people in the Imperium

[jade holly]

Like it’s designed to show different aspects of humanity pushed to the extreme

[opaque coyote]

Oh 1000%

Chaos is even more symbolic tbh

Each of them capitalize on a human failing

Or even just suffering

[jade holly]

Slaanesh about man’s strive for perfection, Nurgle is humanity’s fear of decay and disease, Khorne is unrelenting and wild bloodlust, Tzeentch is sporadic and unguided change?

Is that about right?

[opaque coyote]

Nurgle is also depression, hopelessnees, and toxic family

Toxic literally and figuratively

[jade holly]

I always found him to be the creepiest

[opaque coyote]

He is the definition of an abusive parent

[jade holly]

He’s positive to a toxic degree

[opaque coyote]

Somebody who causes you pain and then love bombs you later on

The parent who beats you

While shouting

[jade holly]

Tzeentch is the one I know the least about

[opaque coyote]

"Look at what you made me do"

That is Nurgle

The dating partner who immediately beats their other when they dare go out with other friends

Nurgle commonly uses abuser tactics

Even more so than the rest

And the scariest part is that he makes them forcefully content

Like a kid raised on abuse

Thinking that being beaten, starved, is normal

They're normal!

"I got X and I'm fine!"

But they're not fine

Everyone else can see it as clear as day

But they can't

Not anymore

They don't want to

[jade holly]

Like how he got Morty to join him

Cause Typhus pulled a Typhus

[opaque coyote]

He infected all of his sons

[wintry cloud]

Slaanesh are all the crackheads who can no longer humanly function on the streets, leaning over constantly

[opaque coyote]

And Morty couldn't even kill them

[wintry cloud]

More drugs pls

[opaque coyote]

He had an ultimatum

[jade holly]

Slaanesh is the sins of the flesh no? Overindulgence, strive for perfection, desire for more

[opaque coyote]

The god of extremes is probably the best description.

Since it also includes perfectionism

[wintry cloud]

Its never enough after all

[opaque coyote]

Over-dedication

[wintry cloud]

Or you could say

Excess

[opaque coyote]

Over-dose

[jade holly]

I still don’t know much about Tzeentch besides Magic and change

[wintry cloud]

Tee hee

[opaque coyote]

Etc.

[opaque coyote]

Gaslighting and pride

[wintry cloud]

Treachery
Scheming
Narcissism

[opaque coyote]

I mean Magnus fell partially because he thought he was good enough

...

[wintry cloud]

We do a little trolling

[opaque coyote]

He really wasn't

And he was at the same time

[jade holly]

Tzeentch is always in motion, is that about him?

[opaque coyote]

The opposite of true intelligence.

Stubbornness, arrogance, etc

While thinking that you know better

[tough haven]

Obsession of any type

[jade holly]

Which is why Magnus did nothing, wrong

[tough haven]

Knowledge, especially forbidden knowledge, rebellion, entropy

[jade holly]

So he’s mostly about the collection, manipulation and use of information?

[opaque coyote]

Basically, he'd be the type to make a bunch of bot posts and false information

Tzeentch is basically

M Y P U S S Y I N B I O

[opaque coyote]

I have thought about making good "shards" of the Chaos Gods.

And an idea is that part of Tzeentch's mind constantly rebels against even the rest to try and prevent the damage that his evil schemes do. Along with that shard being genuine in wanting to prevent his schemes from hurting people.

But Tzeentch planned for this and that shard only keeps the game from having a winner

Using said "good shard" to keep the game going.

Just as planned.

[jade holly]

I could see others having good shards too ngl

[opaque coyote]

In general I imagine Tzeentch's mind is just chaotic ba dum tss.

[jade holly]

Khorne’s being tactical and efficient warfare, the Athena to his Ares

[opaque coyote]

Yeah. But they would be too small to truly affect anything. And possibly even help their whole

[jade holly]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

(unintentionally)

[jade holly]

That or the Iron Warriors shoved em in an engine already

[opaque coyote]

I thought of Khorne's "good" shard being

The grim necessity of war and battle at times

To fight for what you actually believe in

To defend your family

Friends

Loved ones

[wintry cloud]

Some art

Fanon art

[opaque coyote]

I can easily imagine this being in a feudal world

Some cultist made this art

[wintry cloud]

Lmaoo

True

[opaque coyote]

Because the original idea of the "virtues" of Chaos was literally spouted out by a crackhead cultist

Tbf it is an interesting idea, Chaos Gods are embodiments of concepts pretty much

[opaque coyote]

Also thought of them being styled off of a typical soldier

Like if Khorne looks like a warrior king, sitting on top of a throne of skills

The "good shard" would look like the grunt in the trenches

[celest dome]

Isn't is just Fan lore though

[opaque coyote]

Most of it is, but I swear the idea came from what were canonically crazed ramblings of a cultist

[signal bramble]

In the dawn of fire books, a Khorne Berzerker is chasing down a group of Militarum soldiers. When their sergeant rallies them for a firing line, the marine stops and spreads his arms so they can shoot him.

They don’t manage to hit a vital point with their lasguns and then Berzerker says something along the lines of “in recognition of your inferiority, honor demands I allow you one chance to kill me and you failed. Now I’m going to kill you all.”

[wintry cloud]

Just like religion in real life, its multifaceted on which khorne guy views how or what to do to worship

But mostly getting skulls

[celest dome]

Doesn't mean that Khorne is honourable, he only want blood, and doesn't care from wher the blood come from

Be it babies or warriors

[copper patrol]

khorne has been flanderized out of being actually honorable

[signal bramble]

Yeah yeah I’ve heard that before. But I’m firmly convinced that the actual warriors themselves do have some martial pride.

Like if one spent all his time butchering nothing but babies and civilians, Khorne might not care, but I do think his peers would consider him a weak coward afraid to fight anything that can hit back.

[opaque coyote]

Imagine somebody just shoots him in the middle of his speech

Every time he tries to continue somebody just fires

[signal bramble]

To be fair, they were terrified of the 8 foot tall giant with a chain axe bigger than their torso.

[opaque coyote]

I would do that

Primarily because best case scenario somehow I hit him in the dih and he died

Worst case scenario, at least I tried

[wintry cloud]

That or your fight or
Flight goes into flight

[opaque coyote]

Pretty much

[opaque coyote]

The others care about variety in their skulls

[signal bramble]

Eh we’ve seen quite a few of them want the 1v1.

Oh hey my name isn’t gray anymore.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I doubt the others would care if you slayed babies.

Just being only a baby killer would probably be seen as wasting blood

Also babies have less blood

...

The conversations we have here

[signal bramble]

But anyway, that’s the only time I can think of with a Khorne warrior showing some honor in some way.

[opaque coyote]

Basically

In general Khorne works off of getting as much exp as you can

Which is funny

"WHY HAVEN'T YOU SLAUGHTERED THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN? YOU'RE ONLY SLAUGHTERING THE CHILDREN. THAT IS A WASTE OF BLOOD GALLONS PER HOUR!"

[signal bramble]

Also the Angron red angel book shows how an aspiring warrior gets himself some butcher’s nails. You rip them out of the skull of some guy what has them.

[opaque coyote]

God why does this remind me of RuneScape

"This exp training method is inefficient"

• RuneScape players and Khornate warriors

[signal bramble]

They’re not all that crazed tbh.

Even with the nails in some cases.

[opaque coyote]

RuneScape play

Oh

[signal bramble]

I recommend the Angron book if you’re curious. It shows some nuance to the world eaters we hadn’t seen before.

[opaque coyote]

But yeah a lot have other hobbies

Which is funny

I think a world eater is a gardener

[signal bramble]

The newer one. Red angel.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the plants are both carnivorous

And feed off of blood

But still

Gardening

He also has regular plants asw

[opaque coyote]

But yeah I prefer slightly more nuance in my Gods of chaos and destruction

Mainly because they're still concepts

They should embody all of it

[signal bramble]

Lords of Excess has some decent Slaanesh stuff.

[opaque coyote]

Even if their concepts are mostly bad

Murder bad???

[signal bramble]

Don’t read perfect son though. That book is trash. It made Fulgrim boring.

[opaque coyote]

Holy shit you read??

Books??

No way

Jk

Welcome

[signal bramble]

Nah. I do audiobooks.

[opaque coyote]

Ah

Now you're a true 40k fan

[signal bramble]

Listen to them on my commute to work and home.

Probably consumed more 40k books than most.

[shadow plover]

one book will get you the "most" status

[opaque coyote]

"Books? Nah. I get my lore through Tiktok"

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-oguri-uma-musume-umamusume-squishy-gif-14372802265437813043

[signal bramble]

[wintry cloud]

Ik im late but

https://youtu.be/U3NWP5n5p4w?si=ZmCEd9hpLOmTyvv5

This is fire

Excellent

[jade holly]

Could a potential story where a Necron overlord loses his entire tomb world to a flayer virus and goes off on his own in a very “The Man with No Name” style story work?

[shadow plover]

Have you read Twice Dead King?

[jade holly]

Not yet

Want it for Christmas

Same with the Infinite and the Divine

[shadow plover]

It's great, wont say much else to not spoil anything

[urban spire]

gladius any good?

[jade holly]

I’m guessing my idea is very similar to Twice Dead King?

[shadow plover]

The game? it's pretty eh

Let's say it involves the flayer virus

[urban spire]

is that bad?

i just want to play admech

[jade holly]

Damnit I’m forgetting

Is Lord or Overlord the one in charge of a tomb world

[shadow plover]

Overlord

[jade holly]

Alright I had it right nice

[shadow plover]

i mean it can be good if you're really into that type of a hex based strategy games

[jade holly]

I still think the idea of an Overlord losing his entire tomb world and having to be on his own would be sick

[shadow plover]

but it will not shine in any areas

[arctic talon]

It’s mediocre

[urban spire]

shame

[rocky gale]

I enjoy it, but it's rough

[mossy peak]

https://x.com/sigmarxism/status/1998764605229903934?s=46

Sigmarxism (@sigmarxism)

servitorising my groyper son and donating him to the wokest astartes chapter i can find

X · Dec 10, 2025, 2:39 PM

[urban spire]

i'm playing the gladius people's other game and that's pretty alright

[opaque coyote]

https://fixupx.com/zoerosebryant/status/1998607870280257931?s=46

zoë rose bryant (@zoerosebryant)

hilarious in hindsight that he tweeted “your body, my choice” with a body count of 0

Quoting Complex (@Complex)
︀
White supremacist Nick Fuentes admits to being a virgin at 27, citing women as challenging. Read more: www.complex.com/life/a/backwoodsaltar/nick-fuentes-says-hes-still-a-virgin

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FixupX · Dec 10, 2025, 4:17 AM

[outer wave]

Didnt he suck Destiny off?

I swore this guy has had sex with Destiny

[rose thorn]

Well that’s the last of the grotmas detachments for now, I sure do hope space marines needed 4 more detachments!

[daring creek]

This bitch ain't a virgin he gets with MEN

[outer wave]

Thats what Im saying!

[daring creek]

He literally streamed gay porn

Speaking of grifters

Alex Jones is a pedophile

[outer wave]

How am I not surprised

[daring creek]

Literally sent STUFF to his lawyers during the sandyhook trial

It was found in the files

Actually insane

[outer wave]

Christ why even send that to anyone you dont trust?

[surreal nest]

No...it cant be.....the pedophile is a....no....pedophile....god....

[plush mason]

today i learned i was born on the same year that Ian Watson's 2nd warhammer book came out

[opaque coyote]

• Neo-nazi's

[daring creek]

Accidentally

[opaque coyote]

Ian Watson's stuff is honestly weird.

And some of it is just "this isn't even barely disguised". Because..
He was a fetish writer

But I think his depiction of the Emperor's children is one of the best

[outer wave]

Thats a big accident to have happened tbh

"Whoops I slipped in my cheese pizza into the emails for my lawyers!"

[surreal nest]

Next you'll tell me Nick Fuentes is a virgin disregarding the innumerable hams slammed with men

[surreal nest]

The lawyers sent over his entire phone basically

Like gigabytes upon gigabytes of just everything in his phone at once

You should watch LegalEagle's breakdown of his court case

Its awesome

[outer wave]

Oh god

Worst bit IMO is that I doubt much will come of this to him

But perhaps Im just cynical

[surreal nest]

Idk he already lost everything

[plush mason]

yeah they sent his phone in during discovery thinking it had been wiped iirc

[surreal nest]

He has no protections now no money

He going to jail!

Although, I havent actually heard of anything about illegal material being on his phone

[outer wave]

Did he lose all his money? I thought he got some

[surreal nest]

He liquidated his entire company

Bankruptcy!

[plush mason]

^

he lost the case and the judge ruled he had to pay

[surreal nest]

He owes 1 billion dollars to the survivors of sandy hook iirc

[outer wave]

Oh hooray!

[outer wave]

I think I was thinking about how his company was almost bought by The Onion

But never was

[daring creek]

Nick Fuentes gets slammed by atleast 3 dudes a week

[outer wave]

Nah you don't understand, those are the Islamist extremists that are doing this

[plush mason]

the text messages basically sealed his fate afaik

[surreal nest]

I believe it is due to go for sale again but idk why they won't let onion buy it

[surreal nest]

His lawyers gotta lose their license lmfao

[plush mason]

they where very damning in proving he knew he was lying about the school

[opaque coyote]

I doubt he has any even counting hams slammed

[plush mason]

not their fault, Alex thought his friend had wiped the phone

[surreal nest]

They still neglected to suppress the documents tbh

[plush mason]

couldnt

[opaque coyote]

Genuine justice is rare.

This does put a smile on my face.

[surreal nest]

Yeah because they gave over their evidence a year late

[plush mason]

it was for the discovery part of the trial

[opaque coyote]

Even if it was long overdue

[surreal nest]

The judge gave them shit for not handling their discovery

[plush mason]

yeah

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I can't imagine being handed your clients phone

And then

"Oops, cheese pizza!"

[surreal nest]

Oop one of his lawyers did get suspended for the phone incident but it was because it had confidential medical records on it

[plush mason]

oof

[surreal nest]

I wonder how this works for the families. Will they even see the money?? No way Alex jones is worth a billion dollars

[plush mason]

he cant use backruptcy to avoid paying afaik

so literally everything he owns and makes for the foreseeable future will have to go to paying the families

[urban spire]

oh gladius is 90% off, guess i'll just try it

wait i already own gladius? since when?

[young pecan]

Maybe it was 90% off some other time

[opaque coyote]

And said amount is a billion dollars

And his company is bankrupt

[young pecan]

Rare evil person L

Unfortunately

[opaque coyote]

His children will have to pay it off

If he has any

[plush mason]

yeah we need a lot more of them and on bigger fish than Alex "gay frogs" Jones

[opaque coyote]

Or it'll just die with him

[opaque coyote]

Please the entire MAGA cabinet

Please

God

If you exist

I beg of you

And also Kim Jong Un

And Putin

...

And a lot of people actually

Jesus christ

[plush mason]

the world is run by despots and wana be despots

is it any wonder things have gone so bad so quickly?

[opaque coyote]

I think it's due to the fact that wanting power to rule means you're power hungry for one reason or another

Like you could still be benevolent but you still want the power to make those reforms and actions in the first place

Even the most benevolent leaders are technically power hungry, they just get full and decide that they have enough

Some have bottomless stomachs though

Like Trump... figuratively and literally

Seriously, even if he was a good president (somehow), I would be concerned by the amount of McDonald's he eats

[young pecan]

A sentiment that I see often is people saying that the world and people sucks these days, but the world and humankind's treatment of itself and said world has almost always sucked imo

[plush mason]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-threatens-new-icc-sanctions-unless-court-pledges-not-prosecute-trump-2025-12-10/ this just screams "i know i am guilty of a lot of crimes so i need to cover my ass now"

[opaque coyote]

"I AM NOT GUILTY"

"CLEARLY. JUST LOOK AT MY NOT GUILTY ACTIONS."

"LOOK AT MY NOT GUILTY DEMAND TO PRIVE IT"

"DID I MENTION I AM NOT GUILTY???"

[valid needle]

Ultimate power corrupts ultimately.

[young pecan]

For emotionally unintelligent people without a backbone, yes

[rose thorn]

Peak

[urban spire]

power doesn't corrupt, power reveals

the more immune you are to consequences, the more you show what kind of person you are without consequences

ok seems gladius is mechanically the same as the other game they made but the UI is just way more rough

zephon has a really pleasant to look at ui, gladius feels like it was made in 2001

[median star]

average inquisitor

[humble shoal]

gw official christmas music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3NWP5n5p4w

I don't think this kid is gonna survive

[dapper gyro]

I don't think the marines is surviving.

[humble shoal]

i mean the planets gone

[abstract vector]

reminder one time they gave Gladius for free to keep

Its around 2021-2023

[urban spire]

prob

[abstract vector]

Now the issue is dlcs

[tepid glacier]

Guys i was wondering about Siggy, do you think is stronger or weaker than the average custodes

power scaling can sometimes be confusing in Warhammer 40,000

[trim meadow]

Sig can fs fight an avg custodian hes the emperors champion and has done some crazy impressive stuff

[tepid glacier]

i see, and he was not even a primaris impressive

[arctic talon]

he's probably getting cooked imo

he's impressive but Custodes are superior to marines

in pretty much every way

siggy was just really good with a sword

[tepid glacier]

mmm he fight agains Abbadon while he was old, seems really strong if i'm not wrong abbadon destroy a custodes party

[dapper gyro]

Siggy can match the average custodians.

[arctic talon]

Abbadon wasn't juiced up yet

when he fought Sig

[dapper gyro]

Though, the dude is an exception, not the rule.

[arctic talon]

idk

maybe I underestimate him too much lol

[tepid glacier]

I wonder if we'll have similarly powerful Astartes in the future, perhaps Titus in his prime?

obviously not counting the boltgun guy cause that seems crazy

[dapper gyro]

Titus is not that exceptional aside from warp bullshiteries.

[arctic talon]

Titus doesn't do the stuff he does gameplay wise

1 to 1

[wet sandal]

Titus' power comes from being an ultramarine protagonist

[tepid glacier]

this seems like something very overpowered to be honest

[arctic talon]

mostly because its literally impossible in lore lol

[wet sandal]

But he's just a guy really

[arctic talon]

like

you literally cannot kill a carnifex with a bolter in lore

[abstract vector]

Titus is run by pure luck

[arctic talon]

I do not care how good you are that shit is not happening lol

[dapper gyro]

Warp resistence doesn't make you stronger.

[arctic talon]

Titus is impresisve for warp resistance

[dapper gyro]

But get hit he still down.

[abstract vector]

Flamer becomes Anti-Armor

[wet sandal]

Clearly you've never rolled a 6 to wound

[abstract vector]

Somehow it can cook Carnifex and hellbrute

[arctic talon]

I curse you with It will not die + FNP 5+

[tepid glacier]

Guilliman ask them to get back 500 worls , that should mean something

[arctic talon]

He's not the only person in charge of that

[wet sandal]

It means that he's a recognisable character to new 40k fans

[arctic talon]

yeah

If they had chosen Felix people probably wouldn't know who the fuck he is

lol

[tepid glacier]

i wonder if he will be in the amazon new media

[arctic talon]

but Felix is more relevant in that task rn

then Titus

Titus just got assigned to that

[abstract vector]

Probably

[arctic talon]

who the fuck knows

[abstract vector]

500 morbillion worlds

[tepid glacier]

is Felix the black guy?

[arctic talon]

No

Felix is a lore character

he's one of the Tetrarchs

[wet sandal]

You must never forget the highest truth of all

All lore exists to sell small plastic toys

[abstract vector]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Decimus_Androdinus_Felix

tetract of Ultramar

basically Governor

[tepid glacier]

wow, interesting

[arctic talon]

truth nuke

but yeah Titus is more recognizable

and Titus gets people who've never touched the lore beyond SM2

to look at a rulebook

[dapper gyro]

"Conquer 500 worlds" could just also be reclaiming those worlds.

[arctic talon]

and also plastic crack

[arctic talon]

Felix does go into this

lol

in the new Cawl book

[dapper gyro]

We are still in the middle of the Indomitus in the setting.

[arctic talon]

about how many of the worlds are loyal and don't want to rejoin, and while he wants to just bomb them into compliance he thinks about how Guilliman would hate that

lol

and how it ruins the point of reclaiming the world

which is to have a bunch of fresh meat resources ready to go

also Felix is a based democracy hater and lover of Facism/authoritarianism

like all Ultramarines

[dapper gyro]

Gman just got back from fighting Morty.

[abstract vector]

Most of the Worlds disobey Roboute due to not wanting to relinquish their power on the world or They told Roboute that centralised government is a no no because you literally told us its a bad idea

[arctic talon]

also there's the fact

that some worlds

literally don't have records anymore

or are gone

ect.

[abstract vector]

oh yeah

[arctic talon]

What Guilliman has told Felix and Now Titus to do

is a nightmarish task

[dapper gyro]

The Death Guard damage to the sector was significant.

[abstract vector]

Records lost due to constant war

[arctic talon]

because what even counts as it

lol

like

does it count as reclaimed if its a smoldering wreck?

does it count as relcimaed if the nids ate everyone 300 years ago

ect.

[abstract vector]

Titus mentioned it too in the trailer

even he is confused

[arctic talon]

vespator front in lore is already a deadlock

which is the Front Titus and second company are being sent to lol

[abstract vector]

I wonder legally if Roboute allows Chapters to work with Titus

[arctic talon]

he does with Felix

so...

[tepid glacier]

are not the indomitus crusade for taking back the ultramar planets? i'm a little bit lost about that

[arctic talon]

Titus is likely under Felix's thumb

[arctic talon]

Indomitus crusade is galaxy wide

[abstract vector]

I really doubt Ultras and their successors and Ultarmarian Auxilia can do it alone

They literally need outsider chapters and regiments to help out

[arctic talon]

There's the shield chapters of ultramar + Mechanicus forces + guard regiments

on the vespator front already

[abstract vector]

oh god Elite

[arctic talon]

along with some ultramarines

lol

[abstract vector]

Imagine Dawn of War IV they retcon Soulstorm

[arctic talon]

felix and his tiny ass honor guard

[abstract vector]

its part of the 500 worlds

[arctic talon]

at the very least

[abstract vector]

[arctic talon]

its not even in the right part of the galaxy 💀

[abstract vector]

I know but they changed location due to shitty records just to justify Dawn of War IV Kaurava DLC

[arctic talon]

LOL

[abstract vector]

Devs are forced to make it a DLC by GW

[arctic talon]

to break down what the indomitus crusade is officially

Its guillimans great crusade 2.0 where the goal is to reclaim imperium planets and reinforce existing ones

except its not nearly as great as the great crusade

and is less genocidal to other humans

[tepid glacier]

seems like an excuse to mantain humanity as a pack, i doubt even he think this is posible

[dapper gyro]

To reconnect (Read recollect) the greater Imperium.

[arctic talon]

He doesn't think its possible

but its an attempt to regrab as much stuff as possible

in the wake of the great rift splitting the galaxy in half

[tepid glacier]

just look at the fcking tyranids jesus, seems like a big wall

[arctic talon]

well

yeah 💀

The Imperium is inevitably going to fall

Guilliman is like some cloth over a disembowlement

[tepid glacier]

i was wondering since i read a few days ago that the silent king was figthing them on diferent galaxys, are tyrannids cappable of eating that ironmeat of the necrons?

[arctic talon]

like yeah it'll stop the guts from spilling out

but you still got a giant hole in your stomach

[arctic talon]

nids can't eat necrodermis but they can eat other necron stuff

[dapper gyro]

They can't assimilate, but they can still evolve by fighting and use brute force to tear the necron off.

[arctic talon]

they have stuff they can eat on necron worlds still as well

they just would rather not fight necrons

[tepid glacier]

like the scarabs or those green lights?

[arctic talon]

some Necrons fight the nids because they want a galaxy to rule over

lol

Imotekh for example

[arctic talon]

nah, the black metal some stuff is made of is edible

same with the rocky material

[tepid glacier]

so, then they can do the same vs demons/chaos?

[dapper gyro]

Necron antimatter weapons is not easy to biological monsters to defend against.

[arctic talon]

yes

Nids can fight daemons and chaos

[tepid glacier]

interesting, i though maybe chaos/demon was the counter but seems like tyranids are inevitable 💀

[arctic talon]

I mean

it is

just

one tiny tiny tiny issue

is this art canon? I dunno

but it was in BFGA2

point being there's a lot of nids

[tepid glacier]

that seems like the hive mind

[arctic talon]

the initial fleets are just vanguard forces

as far as we know

[tepid glacier]

maybe was when the cicatrix open up

scary as fuck

[arctic talon]

the cutscene its for is describing how the nids come from all sides of the galaxy

lol

[tepid glacier]

btw, is by any chance silent sisters aura affecting hive connection on tyrannids?

[arctic talon]

Yes

blank auras fuck with nid connections

but Stronger synapse cretures can overwhelm it

[tepid glacier]

oh that's cool definetly something to bring some love to silent sisters at the future

[dapper gyro]

It has always been the selling point of the SoS since the 4th or 5th edition... so don't hope too hard.

[arctic talon]

💀

SoS get no lore

aside from in the custodes codex

[winter pine]

I got the impression that stronger psykers could overwhelm blanks / Sisters of Silence if they were powerful and willful enough

One of those vague enough to leave it to an author things I guess

[arctic talon]

generally thats how GW treats blanks yeah

[dapper gyro]

Yes, however, the power scale goes both way.

[tepid glacier]

I always thought the Sisters of Silence were primarily intended to be a direct counter to the Warp Force, but I didn't think they'd affect the hive mind. Seeing how the Tyranids are doing and how underutilized they are, maybe they'll get some lore in the future.

[arctic talon]

SoS are the portion of the Talons of the Emperor that specialize with psykers and daemons

while the custodes deal with more

[dapper gyro]

Technically speaking, there could be a negative Big E.

[arctic talon]

material things

[winter pine]

tbh I want a novel about one of the Eyes of the Emperor custodes doing some undercover work, it sounded like a fun premise

[tepid glacier]

I want to know more about the Cogniitae and know if Valdor is there

[winter pine]

I have a bad habit of assuming the Dan Abnett rules still apply to Darktide because he wrote the original foundational lore lmao

The reason the rejects aren't getting corrupted is Grendyl doing some Ravenor shit

[nocturne crest]

So this turned up in Goblin Slayer manga:

[dapper gyro]

A fucking night lord!

[nocturne crest]

An ultramarine night lord.

[urban spire]

goblin slayer reader

[abstract vector]

GW lawyers sending in Japanese PMC to grab the author

Either he drops the manga series or he makes a new one under GW

[arctic talon]

its lowkey pretty good

as long as you approach it with the perspective of the mental progress of someone who is mentally and emotionally broken become more human again

[outer wave]

I stopped reading it just after ||the goblin king attempted to take the town and he was killed, then they were doing a new arc where GK joins Elf on an adventure somewhere||

[arctic talon]

the best parts of it are by far Goblin Slayer interacting with other people/the party interacting with him and his progression into becoming less of a monster

tbh

[outer wave]

Yeah it really is just about a man trying to get out of his PTSD cycle with the help of comrades and friends that he meets

[arctic talon]

also just random strangers as well tbh

[outer wave]

Dont know much about that

[arctic talon]

he develops due to interactions with them tbh

imo

[outer wave]

Ah I see I see

Well, maybe I should pick it up again

[abstract vector]

yeah

[paper haven]

Why is there a night lord in Goblin Slayer?

[arctic talon]

The author likes very on the nose references to media and things they enjoy

lol

[outer wave]

I can respect it

[arctic talon]

not just a translator being funny

it is the Skavens name in Japanese as well in Japanese lol

fucking icewind dale exists as well from DnD lol

[young pecan]

The best parts of Goblin Slayer are the parts where goblins aren't being slayed

Except for the last stand scene but that's still a little tainted by the elf being actively stripped

Fun writing though

I think the idea of the Swordmaiden or whatever she was called being helped with her PTSD was nice but it didn't feel as in-place and well-made as it could have, considering all other instances of that theme are much more on the nose and less well-made

[opaque coyote]

Men would rather dedicate their entire lives to learning, living, and murdering their greatest enemy in an eternal battle

...than seek therapy

[opaque coyote]

Also on an related note, goblin Slayer abridged is funny as shit

[young pecan]

The secret is that one or the other are a good ending

Too many men these days do neither...

Tis why society in shambles

[opaque coyote]

I would summarize OG Goblin Slayer as a campaign written out and planned

And... Goblin Slayer Abridged as the actual DnD campaign

[young pecan]

I'll give it a look later

[opaque coyote]

I suggest you do

It is fucking hilarious

"MY ASS. THERE'S POTIONS IN MY ASSS"

[arctic talon]

Considering the light novel has the gods bitching about dice rolls no

[opaque coyote]

True...

[opaque coyote]

Still the funniest thing about Goblin Slayer in general

Imagining the players

/"Gods"

[young pecan]

Oh god, Goblin Slayer is a D&D campaign run by a pervy DM and the elf is the only woman at the table

That poor player

[opaque coyote]

Yeah basically

Although tbf there's a chance that the woman is somebody like the dwarf

Either way we need more media where it's framed as a table top campaign basically

The DnD movie is also fucking hilarious

[young pecan]

I really loved that the fight scenes were accurate to the "6 second" rounds thing

I still think that is a ridiculously short amount of time for a round but ykw hell yeah

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, it's funny that fights in DnD are often quick (in the game). Considering you roll for each action.

But what would be like a 2 minute long battle in the story would be

Like 2 hours

"Finally! I felt like I was fighting for 3 hours."

"it's been 5 minutes"

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/d%26d-fight-gif-729585776891405523

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that action is smooth

Smooth as hell

In reality that is like 20 minutes of rolling and rerolling

"Hold on I can roll again"

[abstract vector]

0/10 no scene everyone gets nat 1 for 10 min straight

[young pecan]

Not even unless it's a ridiculously big fight like a siege, considering 5 minutes equals 50 rounds

[opaque coyote]

Honestly it would be funny if like there was a move that would be a nat 1 in game.

[young pecan]

A boss fight lasting 2 minutes is funny

[opaque coyote]

Like idk somebody goes to swing

It cuts to somebody with a d20 showing a 1

"fuck"

Cuts back to the fight and the guy accidentally lets go of his sword and it gets thrown out of the battle field

"HOW DID YOU LOSE YOUR SWORD LIKE THAT."

"I DON'T KNOW??"

"YOU'RE A LEVEL 6 PALADIN FOR FUCKS SAK-"

[young pecan]

Wasn't one of the least accurate things the illusion falling apart quickly?

I forget the specifics of the spell

Oh and also the illusion being more than one sense

[paper haven]

No

[abstract vector]

christ my eyes

[winter pine]

I will gladly be Cirno's strongest supporter ☝️

[abstract vector]

Its titus

Space Marine 2 released on Sept 9

[winter pine]

oh no...

Titus' Perfect Math Class

[opaque coyote]

holy shit no way,,,,,,,,,

[dapper gyro]

Half life 3... Lol.

[languid meadow]

I fucking love the (DO NOT LEAK)

[daring creek]

When I turn 21

I'm gonna get the special room on the second floor with my therapist

looking forward to it ngl

cuz its a lot more spacious and I like the atmosphere a lot more

[wary fulcrum]

Damn, Titanfall 3

[raven stone]

Half Life 3 makes this a fake leak

We all know Gabe will not count to three

[north nova]

I hate imperium fanboys so much dude

[fierce pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-pim-smiling-friends-pim-mr-boss-gif-1373626090718171797

[raven stone]

"I hate right wing nutcases who fangasm over the Imperium being a Good Idea (TM) In Real Life"

Fixed it.

(I am Imperium aligned but I see how fucked and scuffed it is.)

[north nova]

Don’t tell people you can have more fun when you acknowledge that every faction is fucked up in their own way

Also chance to use this

[raven stone]

I...guess you ran into people telling you that you can only be a True Fan (TM) if you support Imperium puritanically

Those people clearly are not aware that in lore there are Inquisitors who point out the entirety of IoM is set up to fuck itself over right now

[north nova]

The whole “imperium is good” can be debunked by the words “corpse starch”

Ah yes the good guys, feeding their own population recycled dead people

[raven stone]

NGL that Black Templar/Judgement Bros bit is just Night Lords lol

[raven stone]

Imperium is "villain protag" is the best way to describe it.

[storm jungle]

They got unlimited cope-defenses against it

"Its necessary bro"
"We gotta stop chaos bro"
"Humanity's survival depends on it bro"

theres a reason I have the statement of The Imperium is bad by GW pinned on this channel lol

You are not suppose to place yourself in their shoes or defend anything they do, fucking idiots

[raven stone]

The "necessary" bros seem to mentally censor the "evil" word from the phrase "necessary evil"

[storm jungle]

Its not even necessary evil

its just evil

[north nova]

Problem is they can’t stand the idea that something can be more complicated than good or bad

[storm jungle]

That too yeah

everyone is horrible, just pick your shade and stick to it like everyone else lol

[north nova]

They are stuck at that toddler level where stories have to have a defined good and bad guy

[north nova]

Personally I love the guard but I’m also aware they work around the idea of throwing people at a problem till it dies

[raven stone]

I am probably the hated twilight type of opinion for Imperium (not Emps himself, but Imperium as is in 40k)

There are things that are stupid evil, there are things that are necessary evil.

But that shouldn't stop anyone from attempting to improve things without the entire system falling apart.

In that sense, I despise puritanical Imperium fans who think its current state is absolutely A-OK

(It is also why I love Rogue Traders and Recongrgator Inquisitors - they are individuals who can wield enough awareness to realise how scuffed everything is and have the power to try to fix things)

[north nova]

Brahms is a good example lol

“This all sucks but I’m making the most of it”

[storm jungle]

aka MONEEYYYY

[raven stone]

Brahms is very much the more stereotypical puritan or self interested capitalist Rogue Trader

[vagrant fox]

Is it in Helsreach where some schmuck gets chastised for being tired because he used to work 20 hour shifts, it's not necessary at all it's just exploitative

[storm jungle]

Yeah there isnt really "necessary" arguments you can make

its just nazi germany in space lol

just drop in a pinch of every evil regime in existence to the soup

[north nova]

The main religion of the imperium is literally a mistake

[storm jungle]

Catholicism.... 🥀

[north nova]

Always the funnier of the lore parts

[vagrant fox]

Keep them tired, miserable, and afraid it's necessary

[raven stone]

If we dive into details...

The Imperium has a cult, not a true religion. There is literally no philosophy underpinning it.

[north nova]

“Hey I’m not god, I don’t like religion. I’m just here to help”
“Actually you are a god fuck you, now sit in this chamber and be an idol of a cult”

[storm jungle]

I mean

Its very much a true religion

they do everything we do today IRL just less brutal (which even depends rn on where you are talking about)

[north nova]

It is a cult of a sense but yeah

[storm jungle]

Yeah that. I live in a country where some parents force women like me to cover up their head all over some text in a madeup book lol

[north nova]

It’s unquestionable

[queen laurel]

also again

[storm jungle]

Pinning that too lmao

[queen laurel]

what sane empire is gonna be saying **** like this

[storm jungle]

"Tolerance is extinction."

[raven stone]

I mean, Imperial Creed is literally just "Hate Xenos, Hate Chaos, Emps is God, fuck you."

It doesn't explain why, it doesn't explain how to manage one's own emotions, it doesn't really give a groundwork for overcoming hardship beyond "but think about Emps!"

So yea, a cult. An actual religion should have a full philosophy supporting it.

[shadow plover]

DO NOT COMMIT THE SIN OF EMPATHY

[storm jungle]

It does explain why tho

[storm jungle]

Poor preacher kirkius stood no chance 😔

[north nova]

Lmao I forgot that

[urban spire]

was in the unenviable position last night of defending 40k from someone who had ONLY heard the shitawful fanwank

[storm jungle]

GOD

[vagrant fox]

I love that one thought of the day from like 3rd, 5th? guard codex that affirms you should be strong in your ignorance

[storm jungle]

Yep, because a "small mind" is less easier to corrupt

which... isnt true at all

lmao

[queen laurel]

They are literally saying that you should be content being a slave to the rich who are born to be the emperors scions

What the hell does

[urban spire]

easier to control!

[queen laurel]

Someone think about that was right

[raven stone]

Well if it does explain why to Hate...everything, it isn't to philosophical depths. And if that cannot be done it kind of proves my point - the entire thing is just a massive cult with no deeper thought to it beyond "kill things that Emps wants us to kill."

[shadow plover]

Blessed is a mind too small for doubt

[north nova]

To be fair not all of the imperial church are happy about how the imperium is

[urban spire]

ministorum assumption: we are better at controlling people than the god of manipulation

the god of manipulation: :)

[vagrant fox]

Some of these would be genuinely funny if I wasn't thinking about the future

[storm jungle]

The Imperium hates everything because they follow the Emperor's manifesty destiny creed from 30k where "the aliens have betrayed us and hunted us and any human that also denies out conquest is an enemy that will be subjugated"

You also said the overcoming hardship thing just being handwaved with "But think about Emps" but this is also what most religious coping mechanisms also kinda swing towards IRL, priests just do a good job of not making it as blunt which some Imperial preachers also do in the lore as per scenes from some books.

Its very much a state religion at the end of the day and a cult

[north nova]

The nobles and inquisition seem the least effected by the church

They maybe believe the emperor is god but they aren’t held back by it

[raven stone]

Inquisition is literally as powerful, and their agents need that breadth of thought to combat threats (and, as Recongrugationism proves, some Inquisitors do come to realise a lot of issues are self inflicted)

Nobles are...well, filthy rich enough yo ignore rules :p

[vagrant fox]

Recongregationists, believers that the Imperium is a shithole and should be rebuilt. You know, radicalists.

[urban spire]

they get to ignore the rules until someone slightly higher up the totem pole comes along

kinda hate that figure of speech

until someone higher in the hierarchy comes along

planetary governors love to believe they are untouchable, and then they fail to meet demands for ONE tithe

[storm jungle]

Im glad this isnt the case IRL

[urban spire]

yeah it's total fantasy of course, irl there are no higher powers than the extreme billionaires and they really do get away with anything

aside from the brain damage never hearing the word "No" for the last 20 years does to you

[storm jungle]

Governor Eppsteinius moment

[raven stone]

I will concede the first point - historically Imperium is responsible for killing off entire polities that were willing to coexist.

Regarding the second point, was kind of approaching it from a Buddhist philosophical point of view. (Buddhism doesn't really have diety per se, and is a lot of emotional self care philosophical elements). Compared to that, many other IRL religions/IoM is indeed saying "but think about [diety]/Emps!" In so many words.

[storm jungle]

Yeah but Buddhism is kinda wiser than most of this stuff so i dont really think its POV would be helpful

[urban spire]

"surely this time trump will be tried for his extremely obvious treason. oh, i guess not. well, next time"

[near wasp]

The imperium is evil who'd a thunk it

[raven stone]

Never said they were Puritans :p. Ironically they are considered loyal up to a certain point (read: when Puritans get one stick up their arse too many)

[near wasp]

That's why I like it though because it's just the worst

[storm jungle]

god im so envious of WHF/AOS fans

they literally deal with none of this shit

lmao

[urban spire]

tbf buddhism isn't a monoloth and there's been a lot of extremely headass and genocidal sects

[storm jungle]

as a follower of Dudeism yeah this is true

[raven stone]

I mean we are concluding the same thing strictly in terms of emotional growth: Imperial Creed does nothing for that.

[storm jungle]

[urban spire]

never heard of dudeism

[near wasp]

The imperial creed is lowkey one of the only things keeping the corpse of the imperium together at this point

[vagrant fox]

I have a paper that says i'm an ordained priest of dudeism

[raven stone]

Yea OK, not perfect but at its core it is a bit different.

[vagrant fox]

Wasn't there some Buddhists in like Sri Lanka going around killing Muslims not too long ago

[urban spire]

if pressed i'd call myself taoist i guess, but more for the philosophy than the spiritualism, since while it IS really cool, it also gets racist as fuck extremely fast

[raven stone]

Look it isn't the perfect answer I am just trying to point out why Imperial Creed actually fully sucks as a Cult/Religion even as a cult/religion

[urban spire]

literally ascended masters get whiter skin

[storm jungle]

I mean, we do know that

[vagrant fox]

Yeah it's a shit religion for a shit state

ok so you worship this guy and all your issues buddy are caused by those evil foreigns

get mad about it

[urban spire]

the imperial creed is born out of disgust for catholicism and anglicanism, heavy on the anglicanism i think

[near wasp]

The fact that the region is so expensive and everywhere that even the lion can't just totally ignore it

The xenos are putting chemicals in the water that poisoning it. (Totally ignore it's us making the chemicals and letting it seep into the supply)

[urban spire]

it's use

[raven stone]

It is a performative cult/religion with no real use beyond "we couldn't stop Emps from dying 10,000 years earlier so we going to get mad about it now and pretend it could have changed the outcome."

[storm jungle]

I wouldnt really say "performative"

the imperial cult has a lot of basis taken from IRL religions

[near wasp]

My autocorrect doesn't like when I use perfectly normal words sometimes

[raven stone]

OK fair

Well, the most negative sides of religion in general

Which really is just unthinking fanaticism and worship.

[urban spire]

yeah i don't actually mean to hastle you about it but that one hit my brain in an uncomfortable way

[north nova]

Without it the imperium would split up, but that wouldn’t necessarily be bad

[urban spire]

btw is the admech rulebook good to read for the lore?

[vagrant fox]

which one but also yes

[raven stone]

I...think all rulebooks are good for lore?

Pretty much all codices are GW approved lore in digestible form

[urban spire]

right, codex, that's the term

i've never read one, never had any interest in playing the wargame

[raven stone]

You turn to novels for all the nitty gritty details/gap filling.

[vagrant fox]

Yeah they're good for lore

[urban spire]

i turn to novels for good stories personally

[vagrant fox]

Just skip the boring tableslop rules

[raven stone]

Nothing wrong with that

[urban spire]

sloptop

what i do for my girlfriends

[storm jungle]

Every codex is good for lore, 8th edition and onwards tend to be the best usually

[raven stone]

Admittedly not all the novels are Shakespeare grade masterpieces, but they mostly do make for good reading

Mostly

Bar...
Well...
CS "Multilaser" Goto

[urban spire]

my intro to 40k was dark heresy

[vagrant fox]

speaking of slop, it's time

[urban spire]

still have my terrible no good awful scan of first edition dark heresy

[raven stone]

TBF it's Ultraslop, does not mean the novel itself is badly written ;p

[urban spire]

from back when people were too cowardly to crack the spines for decent scans

[abstract vector]

They speed run the goddamn Indomitus novels

8th edition had Digital copies

I remember you can buy them before

Now GW doesnt allow it

[vagrant fox]

Dark Heresy now that's good playings

[urban spire]

i'm not giving gw money if i can help it, i will borrow what i need from a friend

well

WELL

first edition dh is kinda

it's a very cool book to read anyway

[raven stone]

Shh, servers are not supposed to talk about "sources"

Lol

[vagrant fox]

my first character was admech and he got splatted by a psyker in the first session

it was so cool

[raven stone]

But yea the first Ed DH books are great for lore

Same for Rogue Trader

One can swim in the ocean of lore

[abstract vector]

Deathwatch is great too

[urban spire]

rogue trader is such a pretty ttrpg

[abstract vector]

Fleshing out the chapters

[urban spire]

deathwatch belongs in the toilet

[vagrant fox]

FFG had dubious rules and editing but man I loved their little sectors

[urban spire]

ffg was cooking with those crit tables

[abstract vector]

Only War for the regiments

[raven stone]

Lorewise they knew how to put everything lore together in a coherent package

[abstract vector]

I actually wonder if Cube7 revives Only War

[vagrant fox]

One can hope

[raven stone]

The rules...yea. complex AF, probably more than is needed.

[urban spire]

regiment creation is really fun

[abstract vector]

Complex but flexible?

[vagrant fox]

I didn't mind the rules, combat got a little too crunchy but otherwise I really liked them

[abstract vector]

Like complicated rules but more options for fighting?

[urban spire]

the rules are fine in terms of complexity, it's just that they were kinda bad until black crusade/only war

[vagrant fox]

at least it's not like that fanmade halo rpg where it tracks each and every single finger and if you got hit in the upper abdomen or lower abdomen

[urban spire]

balance wasn't great

[vagrant fox]

Balance was pretty bad but hey it was fun

[abstract vector]

Seems weird Cube7 makes Horde mode

[urban spire]

shotguns in first edition dh were machines for turning hallways of dudes into beef stroganof

[raven stone]

And as GW currently shows, full competitive balance may suck fun out of things...

[vagrant fox]

Yeah I don't mind just try not to have powergamers suck out all the fun

[urban spire]

also nobody ever understood how to properly use the full auto rules

like you're not supposed to add all the damage rolls together, you apply armour to each one, otherwise of course yeah every automatic weapon just blows through armour like it's nothing

[vagrant fox]

Misunderstanding the rules wasn't uncommon but that's fixed with some experience

[urban spire]

better than trying to cram it into D&D anyway

[wintry cloud]

Game awarde tonight

R u guys ready

[urban spire]

ready to ignore it

[spring cairn]

ready for hl3 and tww40k

[abstract vector]

Tarriff didnt help

[urban spire]

you saw nothing

[abstract vector]

People overhype 40k

[raven stone]

Too busy with company Christmas party to care :p

[vagrant fox]

I don't understand the drive to cram everything into the D&D ruleset outside of not wanting to learn another system

[abstract vector]

IMO AOS can work

40K hell nah

[urban spire]

it's so bad

[raven stone]

D&D works for any fantasy setting reskin

TBH

Just not designed for guns

[abstract vector]

like As much as I enjoy the Blood Ravens and Guardsmen. AOS should be the next Total War game

Mechanics wise it doesnt fit

[spring cairn]

i'm down for both

[vagrant fox]

aos could use a good game

[urban spire]

total war 40k would not be very good i think

[spring cairn]

i'm sure they can make 40k work

[urban spire]

that's not an engine built for modern militaries

[spring cairn]

they have a new on ready

they said they're moving to it recently

[abstract vector]

whats it called

[raven stone]

Just as a random point about D&D working for any Fantasy reskin

[spring cairn]

and 40k isn't really modern imo

[vagrant fox]

If they just copy-paste the same old formula it wouldn't work for 40k but surely they would change things up if they were making that game

[spring cairn]

when it comes to fighting style

[urban spire]

still, 40k would not be the best way for them to learn how to make a large scale tactical battle game

with modern tactics rather than, at the latest, napoleonic

[abstract vector]

only counter argument I heard if CA used Halo Wars 2

Halo Wars 2 was made by them and change the scale then fine it might be okish?

[urban spire]

death

anyway we're getting dow4

[raven stone]

I know the show isn't well liked but goes to show :p

[urban spire]

the show isn't well liked for a VERY GOOD REASON

[abstract vector]

DLC 1: RETURN TO KAURAVA

DLC 2: RETURN TO SUB-SECTOR AURELIA

DLC 3: ULKAIR RETURNS SOMEHOW

[raven stone]

I wonder what Lion is doing with them

[urban spire]

proper nouns limit exceeded; proceed to hell

[raven stone]

And with DA there already for once I see no Ultraslop

[shadow plover]

DLC 4 will be The Lion takes another nap on the Rock

[abstract vector]

Lead developers

they answered it on their AMA

[raven stone]

Oh I missed that

But I more meant plot wise

But still very good they chose DA

[urban spire]

hey shouts out to dow for never being about the ultramarines

[abstract vector]

cough winter assault cough

[urban spire]

winter assault is about the guard

[shadow plover]

Lion: "Uhh we're making Imperium Tertius, care to join in?"

[abstract vector]

you can switch army

[urban spire]

empires are always super friendly with each other when they meet

[abstract vector]

Between Dark Angels or Blood Ravens

[urban spire]

i'm sure the spintering of the imperium will be great for everyone

[abstract vector]

Kronus Necrons is hella interesting

[urban spire]

ronny the neck, early 20th century mafia necron

idk, this is nothing

[abstract vector]

Between the invaders and Necrons murdered by Thule. Its gonna be the most interesting because Old Crons have the Pariahs

[urban spire]

kinda like this

[abstract vector]

yeah

Kronus Necrons are forced to obey

Given they sided with the C’tan and its a Nono

[urban spire]

oh are they the classic zombies?

[abstract vector]

Kinda?

Old Necrons are mostly silent

[urban spire]

the pre-ward necrons yeah

[storm jungle]

yeah they are Oldcrons

[urban spire]

the low key kinda dogshit faction

[storm jungle]

but thanks to the new lore you can explain them away as Severed

[urban spire]

which was really cool to me when i was 14

damn i really am a hater

i need to talk about shit i like sometimes

[storm jungle]

Yeah no everyone agrees dont worry

its why they got entirely overhauled

Oldcrons are a great idea on paper until you realise they literally had nothing as a faction

[urban spire]

they were set dressing for novels, basically

[storm jungle]

Yep exactly lol

[urban spire]

and also, judging by the memes of the time, completely op in the tabletop

[storm jungle]

the funniest part is necron armies literally still act like oldcrons, now the only difference is they got actual leaders

but your aveage footsoldier will never prob see them

so its still the same effect

[vagrant fox]

Funny enough oldcrons are more interesting to me now than they ever were yonder back when

[urban spire]

imo they should let the footsoldiers be people too, but just say they act like that because it's the military culture

[signal bramble]

When you said oldcrons I thought you were talking about the old chaos cyborgs model. Though those still exist in universe and have popped up.

[storm jungle]

Tbh those werent even oldcrons

they were just- well, chaos androids lol

[urban spire]

heavens forfend chaos have something cool

[quaint vector]

Hello there
I saw your post about commissioning
We're you able to find someone to do it for you

[vagrant fox]

Weren't chaos androids mentioned recently

[urban spire]

who?

[signal bramble]

The chaos Androids popped up in the Fabius bile book Genefather. The dark mech is collecting them.

[storm jungle]

Wonderful, all 6 of us are looking for a commission

isnt that right guys

[vagrant fox]

yea ok

[storm jungle]

[urban spire]

uh. yeah.

please give me eight hundred dollars up front

[vagrant fox]

I need to muster up all of my will to read about Bill and Collin

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-coffee-jack-reacher-alan-ritchson-reacher-sip-coffee-gif-24764493

[signal bramble]

It’s a good book and surprisingly it has some amazing imperial knight stuff. Which is my favorite faction. 😄

I sold a few of my armies but I kept my knights.

[urban spire]

no fuck those guys

giant robot assholes

death for them

[vagrant fox]

Assuredly good novels I just don't care much for Bile and Cawl

[urban spire]

just watch escaflowne it's not just for girls

[abstract vector]

@storm jungle I am coping for Pariahs

🙏

The advisor scared me as a kid

they deserve to be back

[signal bramble]

Did you know in the most recent novel that Cawl found a way to close the eye of terror for good and created a new type of enhanced primaris that’s custodes level?

Also I just made that up, but because I mentioned Cawl doesn’t that make it seem plausible?

[storm jungle]

Pariahs will deffo happen some day

they are a very nostalgic unit, GW cant resist

[storm jungle]

[urban spire]

it'd be cool to have a dark mechanicum faction on the tabletop

[storm jungle]

Devious post

[signal bramble]

I’m not sure. Releasing models for a xenos faction?

They’re not a fan.

[rocky gale]

Only if it's led by Sotha Nul

[urban spire]

yeah or they could get a bunch of new characters, that'd be cool too

i like it when stuff is fleshed out

[storm jungle]

Maybe in a decade or so

[abstract vector]

I was planning for Moebian Six next year commissioned art

maybe 3D or 2D

[vagrant fox]

i think you should suffer

[urban spire]

cawl should turn against the imperium or die

reason: good for the narrative

[storm jungle]

Mary Sue ahh

[fervent geode]

Anacharis Scoria and Lukas Chrom should get some love too imo

[raven stone]

This is why I keep saying Primaris broke lore

[storm jungle]

I got bad news

LMAO

[spark turtle]

hello

[vagrant fox]

hello are you here for the commissions

[spark turtle]

no

[vagrant fox]

he should be a wholeass faction in the admech and cause yet another split and multiple wars