40k-lore-chat

[rose thorn]

Okay it injects the parasite it self

[daring creek]

Its all made FROM THAT ONE CLIP

[rose thorn]

Actually the Genestealer cult having ripper parasites dormant within them

And then when the cult gets there

And they instantly awaken

Is pretty good

Meanwhile the magus can awaken parasites

In others

“The star gods live within us” then it’s like the chucky cheese ticket eater sound effect

[dapper gyro]

This is why chaos worshippers vs gsc so fun.

[rose thorn]

Chaos filth will be cleansed by the arrival of the star children

We are xenos AND xenophobic

Well not xenophobic

Uh

What’s the term

[dapper gyro]

Omniphobic?

Hate everything

[rose thorn]

They love the oppressed obviously

They hate other cults tho

Whast trh term for hating other religions

Uh

BIGOTRY

Yeah they are bigoted freedom fighters

[dapper gyro]

religiophobic?

theophobic?

[rose thorn]

Idk, go my IED

[dapper gyro]

It is still improvised when there are factories making them?

[rose thorn]

It’s improved lmao

We have someone genetically coded to make IEDs

[dapper gyro]

🧐

[rose thorn]

The hive fleets have unibomber capabilities on file

The reductus is genetically pre coded with the knowledge of IEDs

they make bombs as an impulse, an instinct that lives within their blood

Like how the kelemorph is precoded to aura farm

[arctic talon]

Yes

[dapper gyro]

At what point is a thing no longer improvised and instead being standardised?

[rose thorn]

Might have the original cult killed off like 4 armed, hive cult, and rusted kinda

Hey is the parasite of mortex never being spotted after mortex imperial propaganda, old lore, or no one surviving to tell the tale

[arctic talon]

The implication is its been deployed again but no one has survived to report it

based on lore from Warzone Octarius

[rose thorn]

Ah okay

I was thinking if the founding cult was killed off, the inquisition while investigating they find a statue of the parasite of mortex in a place of worship or something like that

Man the cult having like, dormant ripper parasites in them and pouring parasites into water supplies and stuff

I’d kinda fucked

It makes me shivers

“Let’s taint all the water with parasites!!!!”

[abstract vector]

Cult of the Pauper Princes from Vigilus is an interesting Genestealer cult. They have an actual working smuggling or stolen naval assets to spread their cult or expand their minor empire

[green loom]

Is the Conclave the gangers mention our warband or a sort of coalition of gangs?

I know inquisitor groups are usually called Conclaves but I'm a lil confused

[lament shoal]

#40k-lore-chat message

[green loom]

Oh so it is just the united clans okay

Damn I totally misread Outlaw then

[rose thorn]

Any gsc cosmetics yet for ganger

[mossy peak]

centrist 🤮

[arctic talon]

Outlaw has a hard on for the Conclave and hates the Imperium so not a centrist

lol

the anarchist is actually kind of insane

[abstract vector]

Its something like Necromunda, IIRC they have a Council with each representative from the Big Named Gangs. All of them collective work together and any treaties broken will be haddled by them

I think the only difference between Atoma and Necromunda is that Necromunda Council can legally reach the upper spires but Atoma is only the Underhive

(Necromunda has some nobles participate with minor gangs or if they’re crazy openly sponsor big named gangs)

[green loom]

Outlaw is kinda revolutionary

The Anarchist is just insane and wants to drink the blood from your freshly slit throat

So the Anarchist is the better Imperial here to be clear and thus more of a centrist than the Outlaw

[tough haven]

who could have guessed

[abstract vector]

I mean its obvious Anarchist is like the typical Gangbanger who smokes crack and dont care much around him

[arctic talon]

yeah anarchist would like

shoot you in the legs for fun

and then eat your eye ball while it sstill attached

[opaque coyote]

Anarchist isn't the book club type of anarchist

Channeling the energy of Johnny

"Total corpo Imperium death."

No idea how that personality type hasn't fell to Chaos yet

[arctic talon]

anarchist believes in might is right

[opaque coyote]

...like I sai-

[opaque coyote]

Literally Khorne 101

That's #2 for their 3 rules

#1 being "get skulls and blood"

#3 being "Have fun!"

[opaque coyote]

Although would the anarchist be like

Right wing technically?

[arctic talon]

he's ancap

sorta

[opaque coyote]

Eh probably doesn't apply to the political compass anyways

[opaque coyote]

Probably just

"I just want to kill ppl"

[arctic talon]

but in the I should be allowed to kill my competitors

sort of way

[urban spire]

hate that they're called an anarchist

[opaque coyote]

So the same as MGR Armstrong

[urban spire]

that's not what an anarchist issss

[severe finch]

how much would y'all have to be paid to live in Tertium for a month?

[opaque coyote]

An anarchist is just somebody who advocate for a society without rulers, hierarchies, or oppressive authority

[urban spire]

yes i know i am one

[opaque coyote]

But I don't think the anarchist counts given that he wants to be the authority

[severe finch]

oh type shit

[opaque coyote]

Or that the authority is blood?

Power?

[arctic talon]

I mean what they want literally classifies as anarchy

its the same reason the authoritarian is called the authoritarian

[severe finch]

does he? his whole speech when you select him is pretty much implying the Imperium should fall and everything should be lawless

[urban spire]

what do they want now?

does the anarchist scum organize a lot of mutual aid?

[arctic talon]

The Anarchist(hive scum) wants a society without rulers or hierarchy.

[opaque coyote]

I think it would individual anarchism then?

Self-ownership, individual sovereignty, etc.

[arctic talon]

no but that isn't necessary for someone to do to be considered an anarchist imo

[opaque coyote]

He's not the social type

Just wants everything to return back to the rule of the jungle

So to speak

[arctic talon]

the Anarchist literally wants no structure so they can do whatever they want

lol

they dislike the conclave as well

[urban spire]

you gotta do some form of praxis you can't just want to abolish the state, or you're just a libertarian

[opaque coyote]

Instead of an abolishment of just authority.

He just wants to destroy every structure

[arctic talon]

his form of praxis is killing people he doesn't like

like

[dapper gyro]

It is kind of the "Freedom for everyone" type shit.

[arctic talon]

the anarchist is an anarchist but not the kind with benevolent intentions

[abstract vector]

I think Anarchist just wants the Conclave to rule and not Administratum?

[arctic talon]

No

because they don't like the conclave either

[urban spire]

yeah that's a libertarian not an anarchist

[dapper gyro]

Freedom as in you should be able to do whatever, even if that means harming others.

[arctic talon]

being an anarchist does not mean you do not harm others

thats a type of anarchy

[abstract vector]

Dog eat dog anarchy is Anarchist

He wants an excuse to do whatever as long as he benefits from it

[arctic talon]

but you cannot simply say that all people who call themselves anarchists do not wish to harm people who theu dislike or disagree with

[urban spire]

it aint, because it doesn't stay anarchist, it devolves into feudalism almost immediately

[opaque coyote]

Libertarianism still wants a structure. At least enough for a free market

[urban spire]

same reason we don't call ancaps real anarchists

[opaque coyote]

Anarchist personality doesn't even want that

[dapper gyro]

You know, kind of like Armstrong in Metal Gear S.

[arctic talon]

the anarchist doesn't want feudalism either

Armstrong is a libertarian

a very extreme one

[abstract vector]

Anarchist is just selfished then

[arctic talon]

the Anarchist literally just wants the freedom for people to do what they wish

even if that means someone wants to hack someones arm off

[abstract vector]

You can do whatever but turns a blind eye if it profits

[dapper gyro]

The wild west freedom... the old American dream.

[arctic talon]

Libertarianism argues for as small of a government as possible iirc

tbf the wild west had really heavy handed laws 💀

in most cities/towns

[abstract vector]

Libertarianism is Limited government oversight

[arctic talon]

yes

[urban spire]

yeah the old west just had enforcement issues

[arctic talon]

^

[dapper gyro]

In cities, to protect the population against the anarchists.

[arctic talon]

The old west had well codified laws

tbh

[abstract vector]

Yeah

Its just manpower issues

[arctic talon]

idk Imo the anarchist classifies as an anarchist(in the philospohical way)

[abstract vector]

Oh right

I forgot to post it here

[arctic talon]

but he doesn't do what most modern anarchists do

or want

because most modern anarchists aren't actual psychopaths

[urban spire]

or any anarchist in history for that matter

[dapper gyro]

I mean, they have state marshals and city marshals, but even those sometimes have different agenda.

[urban spire]

it's a caricature of an anarchist

a common one at that

[dapper gyro]

Law of the jungle

[tough haven]

Bros a real anarchist

In it for the love of the game

[arctic talon]

any notable anarchist, there are people who unironically think like the Anarchist

irl

[abstract vector]

this is the first time I heard a Voiceline regarding Your job that you chose from the Origin.
My Hive Scum is Male Anarchist and his voiceline mentioned he missed his old job smuggling Water. He calls himself a “Conny-Sewer” as he missed his old job.

Did anyone found any voicelines regarding other origins or gangs?

[arctic talon]

he may be a stereotypical caricature

[urban spire]

yeah and they're not anarchists, because that's not anarchist ideology

[arctic talon]

It literally is

by some definitions

[abstract vector]

Thread Lightlies:?
Water Cartel: Conny-Sewer
The Show:?

[dapper gyro]

The Outlaw is a rebel type. The people that the imperium want to wipe out.

[arctic talon]

you cannot cherry pick your favorite definition of an ideology imo

[winter pine]

I'm thinking Fatshark went with what people associate with anarchist in "drug fueled violent maniac" instead of the political term lmao

[arctic talon]

like anarchist is not a good representation of modern anarchist ideology

but neither is the authoritarian for authoritarian ideology

so like

[abstract vector]

Probably Matt Ward Trolling people

[urban spire]

brother, you gotta actually read up on this shit before you talk about it

[abstract vector]

[winter pine]

The Imperium when someone might be even slightly to the left of Karl Schmitt:

[abstract vector]

True Neutral:
Imperium grabbed every worse off ideology and mixed them in a soup

[dapper gyro]

Thread lighties are from Throneside/Chasm terminus.
Shows are from carnaval.
Iron Riders are from metal fab.
Water cartels are from the Torrent.

[urban spire]

anarchy as an ideology has only existed since the 19th century, and it has always been a core principle that you CAN'T just kill everyone you don't like

[arctic talon]

so you are referring to the modern type of anarchy

[urban spire]

the ideology yes

[abstract vector]

Yup but I was wondering about the nicknames Anarchist gave himself depending on his Origin. Only Water Cartel so far

[arctic talon]

then okay

we agree

lol

[green loom]

I think Anarchist here refers to the literal word instead of the ideology

[abstract vector]

I cant find any mentiones of old Job from other Origins

[dapper gyro]

It is 40K, it is not the peaceful kind...

[abstract vector]

Its annoying I cant find another one

[green loom]

Like Outlaw is probably more like an actual anarchist

[arctic talon]

yes

otulaw is the actual anarchist

lol

if we go by the ideology

[urban spire]

an anarchist is a proponent of anarchy, and before proudhon anarchy was considered an entirely undesirable state, no positive connotations

[green loom]

vs "LET ME GOUGE YOUR EYES OUT FOR MY SOUP"

[arctic talon]

Yes but thats the type of anarchy the anarchist is referring to

pre proudhon

the personality

[arctic talon]

same way the maul is a better representation of authoritarianism then the authoritarian

[urban spire]

my point is that pre-proudhon there weren't anarchists, because that's not a thing anyone wants

[arctic talon]

💀

[surreal nest]

i think they are called anarchist bc they are crazy and flippant in their beliefs

[arctic talon]

I'm not going to argue semantics when we literally agree about the actual point

tbh

[urban spire]

i don't know as much about proudhon as i should, but i really hate reading all those dry ass dead 19th century dipshits

[near wasp]

I hate taxes, why must I tell the government how much I owe when they already know

[urban spire]

anyway my point is that i don't think they should be called an anarchist when that means something other than what it did two hundred years ago

[arctic talon]

He's dry as fuck, only reason I know about him is because I'm friends with a philospophy major(dereogatory)

[arctic talon]

well thats because US tax companies are evil

well

not tax companies

the uhhh tax processing ones

lol

[near wasp]

Turbotax

[green loom]

I saw a Poli-Sci dude that's an unironic polish monarchist the other day

[arctic talon]

poli-sci and philo majors

get fucking weird

anyways if I ever get recomended a french communist "great mind" again

[surreal nest]

what would you call them

[arctic talon]

I'm going to kill myself

becausel ike

most of them are

actually wait I have an awful meme for this

[green loom]

Maniac

Tbh

[urban spire]

yeah something like that

[green loom]

Because like, they're a maniac

[near wasp]

At least monarchist are consistent about there beliefs. Bow before the nearest person who says they're blood is pure

[surreal nest]

does that imply a lasting sanity in any of the other personalities

[urban spire]

don't get me wrong it's a fun voice, i use it

[green loom]

Yeah it's just funny that it's a Polish Monarchist

[urban spire]

monarchists should be flushed down the toilet immediately

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705201939033358346/1443334009537958009/IMG_6493.png?ex=6935e00b&is=69348e8b&hm=c10555ccdc01817c3471dbc9fa64685bf92f7507311f5a598da747ba08f74aef&

Every other french intellectual literally why are they like this

[near wasp]

I feel like given Poland's history they haven't had a solid monarchy in a long time

[urban spire]

if you believe rulership is ordained by god you should go to a kind of prison built under water

[near wasp]

Ahhh dissing the French a great pass time

[green loom]

They didn't have it for a lot of their history and when they did, half the time, they weren't even independent

[arctic talon]

its not dissing them if its an observed truth 💀

when I get told "read french philosopher on X ideology"

and half the time they have a book on why they should be allowed to do you know

that

[near wasp]

Nah they just had one guy along time ago who was a really good speaker then they decided his blood is the standard

Or you know could conquer all of england

[arctic talon]

both authoritarian and anarchist should get rennamed

tbh

bcs both of those names are

[near wasp]

(William the conquer)

[arctic talon]

pretty innacurate to them

[urban spire]

european monarchy is legitimized by the church, that's their whole deal

[green loom]

Or he was easy to control and like 12 years old so the nobles let him become king

[arctic talon]

you guys like batshit insane conspiracy theories right

there's this really insane chinese one

[surreal nest]

i think it doesnt matter and all of the personalities are the most cookie cutter tropes in history!

[arctic talon]

where western history pre 1800's didn't exist

and its all a lie

[near wasp]

He was 39 bruh

Hardly a kid

[arctic talon]

and the west stole technology from China

[urban spire]

i used to, but they've gone downhill so bad in the trump era

[green loom]

I'm speaking in general!

[arctic talon]

and thats the only reason why China is not the dominant world power

[green loom]

I thought we did no

[arctic talon]

no like

[surreal nest]

how do people believe this

[arctic talon]

this thing says Europeans didn't have thigns like

running water

or

paper

[urban spire]

lol

[green loom]

I mean

[arctic talon]

or anything really

lol

[near wasp]

They did

[green loom]

I mean

[urban spire]

lmao

[near wasp]

Only the royalty did but they had it

[arctic talon]

they were like

cavemen

is the whole conspiracy theory

[urban spire]

there's literally chinese records of trade with rome?

[arctic talon]

and then they stole glorious chinese technology

[green loom]

Pre 1800? Mfker half of us are still cavemen now, I have to live with these people

[arctic talon]

They're fake made up during the Chinese century of humiliation

destroying existing chinese records observing savages

I am not joking

this is what some poeple actually think

[outer wave]

Would cavemen understand how to use technology though?

[arctic talon]

Yes because they also kidnapped chinese people to teach them

[near wasp]

I mean define technology

[urban spire]

well, seems like kind of a self own though

[outer wave]

Ngl this feels like major projection on the CCP's part

[arctic talon]

metalurgy, gas extraction, mining

the CCP doesn't approve of this

[urban spire]

"cavemen took our tech and then got so good with it they beat our asses for centuries" not a great look

[arctic talon]

lol

this is fringe shit

[outer wave]

Ah my bad

[arctic talon]

this will get you shot by the CCP/j

[green loom]

This is deranged nationalist/racist conspiracy stuff, it's almost always a self own they just never realize

[urban spire]

yeah

[surreal nest]

My friend group has this mind numbing argument saved in history about how cavemen could hypothetically invent bluetooth if we gave them instructions and this just reminded me of that

[arctic talon]

and yes its a massive self own

its an absurdly racist conspiracy theory lol

[green loom]

Like take any deranged European
"Damn those weak people from X, Y would be so strong if we won!" Etc

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-lex-lex-luthor-monkey-typing-gif-10752702160842485994

[green loom]

This is especially true for revisionist Hungarians

[urban spire]

what do they think was going on in the middle east and africa before 1800?

[surreal nest]

dinosaur warfare

you had to be there

[arctic talon]

I can't repeat that because its really racist

like

but same stuff as Europe

but even more racist

[urban spire]

oh

[near wasp]

Probably what's going on now persecuting people for what they believe in. You know now adays the sides are different

[arctic talon]

look

[urban spire]

yeah no i get it

[arctic talon]

I said this was a fringe conspiracy theory

so it comes with that territory as well

do people actually belive this shit? I mean probably because I see it on the internet

And it seems like the usual like

[urban spire]

sounds like the type of person who would join a really stupid rebellion in the 1800s

[arctic talon]

many such cases

[green loom]

It's the same territory of ignorant moron conspiracy that's prevalent in the Balkans

[near wasp]

We have weird convos this time a night

[near wasp]

[urban spire]

seems legit

[near wasp]

Yes I know me saying this time of night seems very americentric

[green loom]

I could take two steps and I'd fine someone who believes in a local variant of this

[urban spire]

well it's 5 AM here

[green loom]

It is 6 am eu so technically not wrong

[urban spire]

for another 5 minutes at least

[near wasp]

It's 9pm for me

[urban spire]

i went to bed about 3 hours ago, i woke up about 3 hours ago

gonna be one of those days

[green loom]

Yes

[near wasp]

I really should of been I bed already but I was at a friend's house talking 40k and drinking

[green loom]

I can't sleep and I have to get up in 4 hours to slice up and prepare pork for lunch

[near wasp]

And now I drink more even tho I have work tomarrow

[near wasp]

ADHD behavior

[urban spire]

bless, remember that sleeping 2-3 hours does not cure alcohol, you WILL still be too druk to drive

[arctic talon]

there's no way this isn't ironic right

[near wasp]

I walk 40 ft to work

[urban spire]

alright carry on soldier

[near wasp]

I literally live in a house owned by my ceo's cousin

[urban spire]

as an anarchist i fully support arriving at work smashed out of your damn gourd

[near wasp]

Unfortunately people's lives depend on me

[urban spire]

that is unfortunate

[near wasp]

Yeah so even if I could say fuck the system I have a moral obligation

[green loom]

You'd hope

My dad mentions stuff like "The Americans only landed on the moon because they stole the tech from Yugoslavia"

[near wasp]

Nah that 100 percent real

[urban spire]

famous yugoslav verner von braun?

[green loom]

And that's not even the deranged Hungarian revisionist stuff

[near wasp]

At least I admit maybe handing out blankets was a bad move

[green loom]

If you've ever watched sopranos

There's a scene where Tony talks about random shit "The Italians" did that others took credit for

That's the vibe

[arctic talon]

ah

[near wasp]

Oh also guy my new shirt showed up

[median star]

the slop will continue

[urban spire]

nice hat

[near wasp]

I figured me putting a bag over my head was funnier than redacting my face

[urban spire]

exactly like spiderman

you shoulda drawn something on the bag

[near wasp]

I also got a custodes short

But I didn't think about that

Shit

Missed opportunity

Also yes yes I know I'm whiter than Sirius b

[urban spire]

i wasn't gonna mention your uncooked hotdog skin

since i'm very polite

[near wasp]

Omg that's very funny

Legit probably the funniest comment about my complexion yet

[abstract vector]

500 Morbililion Worlds and they get Ultaramarian Auxillia meanwhile my Favorite Regiments such as Elysians, Vostroyans and Mordians won't get a upgrade sprue or revive

[near wasp]

Bro I honestly just got the shirt so I could wear it at work and passively aggressively voice my hatred

"Oh yeah it's a Warhammer reference"

"oh yeah he's a Warhammer fan I'm sure it's fine"

Meanwhile me seething

Also the shirt is surprisingly nice

[urban spire]

don't like graphic tees personally

[near wasp]

I kinda just expecting standard T-shirt material but it's a bit smoother than I expected

Fair

I wear alot

[urban spire]

something about using your torso as a billboard feels odd to me

[near wasp]

I have a shirt that says "the horrors are never ending yet I remain silly"

[urban spire]

no judgement though

[near wasp]

Nah I know it's fine

I'm self aware enough

Tbh I just needed a few more shirts and saw the Warhammer tees and decided I'd spend a bit due to the season

Also the passive aggressive text of I'm ultra mad is unmatched

Anyways I'ma quit yapping i need zs have a good day/night peeps

[urban spire]

see you later

[lament shoal]

Do hive gangs use servitors?

[abstract vector]

Necromunda Tabletop mentioned them as hireable iirc

or tools

[lament shoal]

Ty

[abstract vector]

try checking online about the List of Hireable teammates for the necromunda game. I think they have a detailed list?

[queen laurel]

Yes if they can get their hands on them sure why not

[surreal nest]

Dog this fucking stupid tree set for warcry I got is the worst kit ive ever fucking used

You glue the damn branches in with a fucking loose ball socket

[crystal forum]

lmao

https://youtu.be/Fv0leN8TmR8?si=MjGHmVrPoDt6ssrV

it's here boys

also jared padalecki is here too for some reason

we got the two winchester brothers back in action

[daring creek]

Wow theyre finally ending this show huh

Well after that theyve got gen v

[crystal forum]

true

[surreal nest]

The trees are really cool though

[dapper gyro]

I know that I will go to the warp*, so I will drag you with me.

[sour hornet]

what's up my fellow tzeentchian acolytes

[abstract vector]

No Tzeentchians, Only Nurgle Morbians

[lament shoal]

He's just autistic and wants to make friends, be nice lmao

[daring creek]

What book should I read after horus rising

[wary fulcrum]

Do you want to keep reading Heresy stuff?

False Gods then Galaxy in Flames

They’re mostly a self contained trilogy

Apparently they were supposed to be, and that’s why some soon after ones (Battle for the Abyss) are so jank

[rigid dune]

Lore wise where would a hive scum sit on the power ranking from the avalible classes if we asume that the psyker is at the top?

[sacred ginkgo]

With vet and zealot

They're just a person

[rigid dune]

And arbites is above vet and zealot?

[sacred ginkgo]

Extensive schola training and actually being fed well as a kid

[rigid dune]

Yeah, I guess that would do it

[abstract vector]

Tie with a Zealot because they’re “Civilians”

However Zealot is powered by Alcohol and Prayers while Scum is powered by Crack

[wet sandal]

Zealot is hopped up on religious fervour and scum is hopped up on meth

[celest dome]

I think there is a differentiation that should be done between starting and accepted ranking.
When we pick the starting, from top to bottom:
Arbites
Psyker
Scum
Veteran
Ogryn
Zealot
And accepted:
Psyker
Veteran
Zealot
Arbites
Ogryn
Scum

[wary fulcrum]

This

One thing to remember, Sororitas recruit from the same pool as Arbites

[sacred ginkgo]

Orphans

Well

Middle class orphans

[wet sandal]

Yeah, it's not random orphans off the street

Usually children of deceased military personnel

[wary fulcrum]

Orphans to heroes of the Imperium!

[wet sandal]

So to speak

[storm jungle]

Yeah also its important to remember hivescum can get so tough that many Chapters use them as marine recruits lol

this is probably one of the biggest boosters out there

[wary fulcrum]

I did a Necromunda campaign way back when, fanatic era

My juve downed 7 people in 3 games, killed 4 of them, by the end of the campaign we agreed he clearly went on to be an Astartes

[celest cedar]

outlaw my beloved

I love my space rebel

https://tenor.com/view/andor-cunty-cassian-cassian-andor-cassian-andor-cunty-gif-5878121513582130448

[celest dome]

Still think the only way that the Imperial Fist should appear on Necromunda should be as a Hanger On who work like the Proxy but with Juves

[abstract vector]

I like how the Necromunda writers don't write a any encounters with the Space Marine outposts

Like they kept mentioning it on the books but never wrote gangs allowed to visit it

[wary fulcrum]

This latest books has them grabbing ||Gerontius|| and telling them they’ve a hundred days to get their shit in order

[storm jungle]

The station is way up in the Hive

no ganger is ever gonna get there

[storm jungle]

Wait isnt he in a coma

did they literally just yank him out of his pod lmao

[wary fulcrum]

||credo paid Kal Jericho to
Kidnap his stasis pod and bring him to her.

Instead Kal took him off world, probably to his Inquisitor mum, and they fixed him up, so now he’s ambulatory, and he’s set as many loyalists on to Ozzy as he can, so the whole new campaign is set in the Spire||

[abstract vector]

wait isnt it in the under hive?

[storm jungle]

No lol

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Spear_of_Dorn

[storm jungle]

DAAAMN

I wonder why Kal even did that, i never took it as him having any love for his father so obviously there has to be another motive.

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah, new book should be here on the 20th so I’m going to be reading the other three, I can’t remember if they ever said who paid him, so I’m going to be hunting for that

[storm jungle]

Nope it was a mystery.

[wary fulcrum]

Also, hoping an extra reading makes me like Vaults and Secundus more

[storm jungle]

It will i think, those books are great just be sure to read em in release order.

Theres like a lot of plot in the best way possible

puts most 40k rulebook storylines to shame

[abstract vector]

Necromunda coherent storyline is great

[storm jungle]

Its best part is it has actual consequences.

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah, I just didn’t click with them as much as Cinderak. I enjoyed them all, and I’m being overly picky but I didn’t love them

Cinderak was phenomenal,

Vaults was alright but I just don’t like the Body Snatcher’s trope in anything, so it didn’t help here, I feel they missed a cool spy war plot line

Ruins - needed more mad max, more characters, and more depth (and definitely needs to expand on Dagos, not because he’s randomly my fave Helmawr outside of Timmy)

Secundus - needed to be book 4 she turned up, got the suit, left. You need to be surgically implanted into those suits, I want to know which doc did it, which of the wall cities did it,
The name of a random feral mutant Genestealer that’s hunting her

[celest dome]

Where is this noted ?

[storm jungle]

Warhammer Community post

Kal bodystealing is in the previous rulebooks

[wary fulcrum]

New book went up for pre order yesterday, sprue and Brews has spoilers, as does Goonhammer I think?

There’s also the YouTubers (welly wargaming)

Simp City Radio is also back with just Underhiver at the helm (no idea what drama took place)

[queen laurel]

All over the place don't forget some of these guys can be so handy and pretty good at fighting space marines recruit from them

[storm jungle]

You dont really need surgical implantation by a "doc", the suit lore has never been touched since their introduction so Secundus was essentially re-introducing how they work and goes into how they are worked/come across in general, the actual implantation process is done by the suit itself where it outright connects to your body, Haera's in this case literally pistoned itself into her skull and painfully transformed her

[wary fulcrum]

I’ll double check how hedged the language is but I’m sure it says they do (for the regular suits at least)

Helmawr nobles like to show their surgery scars off to boast about it

To be fair though, Her suit is special so it might not need such extensive body mods

[storm jungle]

Its nonhuman technology so who knows

[wary fulcrum]

Oh, generic spyrer gangs can take that suit to lead them now

Need to convert the OG up though

So a £30 resin model to cut up and hand swap

[celest dome]

The suits did have some more invasive upgrades

In their earliest lore

[celest dome]

From the Outlanders original book, we have gotten the Spyrer and the Redemptionist (As part of the Cawdor)
Wonder if they're go for the other 2 💀
Scavvies (Undead-ish + Lizardmen)
Ratskins (Basically Amerindian parodies)

[wary fulcrum]

They’re hesitant with Ratskins

Though the answer to me is to make them the inner hive version of the Nomads

Ash Waste Nomads vs Inner Hive Nomads or some such

Actually, having said that, it’s entirely possible no writer wants to go near them yet

They get given options on what they want to write, and then they go and do it

So it’s equally possible everyone’s avoiding Ratskins for now, or maybe it’s not one of the options they get vi en

[celest dome]

It's a similar situation as the Pygmies, it's just better to not bring them back up

[storm jungle]

I really dont think they are hesitant, Munda makes models out of anything and everything, we'll get em later.

Ratskins are literally just homeless hivers obsessed with rodents.

[celest dome]

But their old aesthetic was somewhat based on North Amerindian tribes

[storm jungle]

Obviously they wont really cover that lol

they very much are not as racist as say pygmies

we already got ratskin stuff in modern munda as well, they arent being erased.

[abstract vector]

Not retcon

Maybe they showcased some aesthetics for one artwork?

then the rest are new designs?

[storm jungle]

Yeah like how they did it with other old munda stuff

I had idiots tell me Spyrers are never happening once lmao

[queen laurel]

Shit Kal Jerico's Bestfriend Scabbs is Half-Ratskin

And he is pretty badass in his own right

[celest dome]

Like a giving them a whole new aesthetic wouldn't be too much

[wary fulcrum]

There’s a fair few mentioned, they’re some of the Antagonists in Sinner’s Bounty, one is a protagonist in Fire Made Flesh (Caleb someone’s side kick)

So I do expect we’ll get them, but GW are just more aware of how they handle these things these days

Check out the Cawdor Executioner, the original mini had a capirote but they changed it last minute

[abstract vector]

New Moebian?

[celest dome]

I mean...They still have some capirotes inspired in the Cawdor gang

[wary fulcrum]

Yeah, but the executioner was specifically changed

This was within a couple of weeks

On French dude in Necromunda World Wide on Facebook claimed he was the one who kicked off about it

[abstract vector]

Probably Some of the old Native American Influence is regulated to Named character or the “Squad Leader” and everyone else is new designs

[abstract vector]

wait its changed?

what do you mean?

[wary fulcrum]

The mini on the left was never released, they announced it then released the one on the right instead

[abstract vector]

oh

💀 💀 💀

[storm jungle]

Same with the OG Redemptionists as well

None of them now have pointy hoods, good change seeing as Redemptionists are literally psycho lynchmobs 💀

[rose thorn]

The whole rat skin thing has felt like a pretty big parody of racism towards Native Americans, I remember when I got into necromunda it was an uncomfortable talking point among Americans

I don’t think there is a way you can do rat skins without ending up being racist unless GW can hire an American to do it

Without erasing the original identity *

[wary fulcrum]

The only way I can see it is if they tie them in as a confirmed human extension of the Ash Waste Nomads, so they have the Hive Spirits as opposed to the Nomads Ash Waste spirits

So maybe King Rat is one of the spirits, but there’s also Lady Eight, the Queen of Spiders, He-Who-Dwells-Below, who rules over sump beasties, something along those lines

Fits with the existing narrative of them being at one with the hive spirit, whilst also tying them more into the esoteric Nomad

[rose thorn]

Feel like ash wastes doing the whole spirit thing while also holding alot of vibes ratskins filled kinda is another nail in the coffin for rat skins

Spyrers make sense because there. Is no other faction of “insane rich people who murder poor children for sport”

[wary fulcrum]

Tbf, they’ve shifted to Monster Hunting Safari’s now

So I think Brats might take the murdering children for sport shot

[rose thorn]

In secundus they do monster hunting, but for underhive campaigns they are specifically hunting and killing poor people for sport lmao

In the book where you get their gang rules it’s like blatantly these guys are horror stories made carnet, they are the most evil and unforgivable scum on the planet

Their rules are so good, you don’t win by doing the objective

You just win by killing as many people as possible

[abstract vector]

I thought Secundus turned into Resident Evil or Survival Horror Gameplay Wise?

You grab the artifacts or objective then fuck off because the monsters coming?

[rose thorn]

Depends on the mission I believe

[abstract vector]

If I ever play Necromunda Secudus. I’d play Escape mode. Its more tension heavy than kill everyone

[wary fulcrum]

Depends what gang you’re running really

With a bit of bad luck you can easily swing from one to the other 😂😂

[rose thorn]

This is exactly how I imagine every Redditor on r/blacktemplars and r/spacemarines

[wet sandal]

he's just like me fr..............

(he's crying because he's reading the last good book in horus heresy)

[storm jungle]

"I cannot believe space nazis would betray the other space nazis......"

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[abstract vector]

Probably Enforcers if you want Aliens Vibe

but then I heard they cant buy much with their credits

[cinder pivot]

Something that would show up in the gift shop district on Terra

https://youtooz.com/products/the-god-emperor-of-mankind

[abstract vector]

Probably they go for the Sanitize Version

[wary fulcrum]

I made Dagos One Eye’s 88th Penal Battalion as a hobby project…I want to say last year?

Escher Rules work well for them too, stimms and cheap lasguns abound

[abstract vector]

Nice

Escher is great for Medicals iirc

Alot of Cheap options

I think Orlock from What I’ve read years ago is mostly better armor and weapons(Cheaper)

[near wasp]

I so want that big e figure but they are probably all gonna get botted and scalped

[wary fulcrum]

Orlocks are a weird position

They get some cheaper guns (shotguns, and I think bolt guns? I should know I always take at least one)

And their thing is basically being tough and doing stupid shit for rep

[abstract vector]

Autoguns yeah

Goliath is mostly, FUCK IT WE BALL due to melee weapons and alot of Heavy Armor

out of all the Gangs I remember Escher being the easiest because Medical Stimms are required to survive and their poison debuffs too

[wary fulcrum]

I run shooting Goliaths a lot and they’re quite a surprise

Goliaths big thing for me is that they’re actually about 2 years old at the bottom end

[sacred bluff]

Lets get waffling...

[abstract vector]

wait they got nerfed?

💀

[wary fulcrum]

Oh no sorry,

I mean age

Vatborn Goliaths

[abstract vector]

ah

[wary fulcrum]

They’re like, the actual age 2 in lore

[abstract vector]

Accelerated Aging

[wary fulcrum]

Ancient is teens

[abstract vector]

Yes

[queen laurel]

They live for less than a decade so

They are very lucky they make it to 9 years

[urban spire]

fucking YIKES, i can't be assed to read up on the context but holy shit throw this guy in the incinerator

[wary fulcrum]

It’s the usual Cawdor/redemptionist design notes just thrown together in one place rather than spread across multiple models

But as the guy kicking off said at the time, go find a capirote with a noose than isn’t Klan related

[urban spire]

there's no way someone made a guy with a pointy hood with a nooses necklace without being aware of what that means

[storm jungle]

It likely very much was a oversight

hence the last minute "OH SHIT REMOVE IT" bit

the old cawdor minis had the capirotes too

[rose thorn]

fuckass blood angels daetchment i hope its nad

reroll wound on all melee attacks omfg

and plus 1 to attack on charge

space marines have more detachemnts then units in mya rmy

[languid meadow]

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Ah fuck Maggie beat me to it

[winter pine]

horus has fallen quaddrillions mustt die

[rose thorn]

[near wasp]

You guys think they have insta hangover cure in the 42nd millennium

Cause I'd like some

[queen laurel]

Drink a lot of alcohol and hit yourself with a cartel special

[near wasp]

Pocket fent?

[queen laurel]

Yes

[near wasp]

I think I'm good

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-kermit-the-frog-meme-worried-kermit-sad-kermit-gif-2908512056935738589

[dapper gyro]

Turn into a space furry or die... that's the cure.

[rose thorn]

Still mad about blood angels detachment

[late verge]

generally speaking what do the chaos legions think of xenos

do they still think humanity is superior, they jsut need to be following the chaos gods, or do they not rlly care

[wary fulcrum]

They think they’re superior generally

[queen laurel]

And they just think of them usually as more sacrifices

[green loom]

The Chaos legions generally keep their supremacist outlook from their imperial days

[wary fulcrum]

Tome of Fire has an interesting interaction where both sides think of themselves as better than the other

[late verge]

makes sense

[green loom]

With some exceptions but mostly they look at xenos the same way they look at baseliners

[near wasp]

They still HATE xenos

[green loom]

Fodder and cattle

[late verge]

tracks

[abstract vector]

Black Legion iirc are the only ones Openly Working with Xenos because I remember Battlefleet Gothic Mentioned them hiring all sorts of Pirates

[late verge]

same as loyalist marines lets be honest lol

[abstract vector]

As long as you obey Abaddon’s instructions you will be rewarded and not betrayed

[green loom]

Depends on the loyalists but more often than not yes !

[green loom]

Well, not by Abaddon, anyway

[wary fulcrum]

Despoiled is still on the table

[green loom]

One of his many underlings?

Probably will betray you

[abstract vector]

Yes

surprisingly Abaddon does honor his word IF you prove yourself and dont betray him

[wary fulcrum]

That’s a compliment though, two of his inner four have tried to assassinate each other a lot

[abstract vector]

otherwise its the executions

[late verge]

fr

me when grimdark:

[late verge]

if all the ruling powers hate each other, why do they team up so often

[storm jungle]

Because when shit gets serious you gotta drop rivalries.

and they never team up "often"

[tough haven]

I can kill you later

[storm jungle]

it has happened like 3-4 times in lore

[tough haven]

I gotta make sure nobody else kills us first

[late verge]

I mean.... isnt that the whole thing behind chaos undivided

[storm jungle]

The chaos daemon codexes go over this

[storm jungle]

Not really

Chaos Undivided has no god

[tough haven]

So we can get back to killing each other

[storm jungle]

its all 4 of them

[late verge]

yeah but like

if all of them hate each other how does that work

[west pendant]

Guys, how do I get pregnant?

[wary fulcrum]

Like parents in a divorce

Them hating each other doesn’t stop them loving the child

[wary fulcrum]

Written a letter to the stork?

[celest dome]

I mean

They don't love any of their servants

Neverborn or not

[wary fulcrum]

I don’t think they’re getting a divorce either tbh

[storm jungle]

Its their passive aura/power

this is like asking "Why does the US sell weapons to terrorists when they are the ones also blowing them up"

lol

[late verge]

except nurgle totally trust me bro nurgles different he infects you with horrific diseases because he likes you

[storm jungle]

He does like you

its just a fucked up form of love

lol

[arctic talon]

Abusive relationship

You even think badly about Nurgle and they’ll make you feel all the pain at once

[urban spire]

nurgle doesn't really love you he just loves to have you

[queen laurel]

It's the same way a maggot loves a rotting body

[daring creek]

Chaos Undivided is like the centrist of chaos legions. Thats what makes them extra evil

[arctic talon]

I see I missed cawdor discourse

lol

[arctic talon]

CIA playing ball

[near wasp]

Hate the cia

[daring creek]

I love the CIA

https://tenor.com/view/cia-central-intelligence-agency-usa-flag-american-dad-gif-6921325615171898367

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/glowie-penguin-green-glowing-gif-21079513

[queen laurel]

The pet of the magos biologis that he swears he didn't made and he found naturally

[near wasp]

I wouldn't be surprised if this chat had an agent of some 3 letter agency lurking somewhere

40k chats seem like a good place to watch for extremists

[arctic talon]

Statistically speaking this discord has someone from an alphabet org around

lol

[queen laurel]

What advantage would they even get lurking in a chat where multiple idiots convey and talk to each other about how sometimes Godzilla hitting the default dance is enough to slap the emperor

We are literally a bunch of apes just talking to each other p

[near wasp]

Ok maybe not this channel in particular but this discord for sure

[queen laurel]

Now you're speaking more sense

[near wasp]

Something something zealot chat

[hollow lantern]

If someone is in a 3 letter agency and reading this please take a deep breath, look around, and think about where your life is and where you thought it would be, Goober.

[wary fulcrum]

Fun times were had by all

[urban spire]

attention 3 letter agency people: you are not ensouled and will not go to heaven

[near wasp]

I love this chat

Brings a tear to my eye

[queen laurel]

Attention three letter agency people

Are you guys KFC because I am hungry

[urban spire]

had to tone that post down a couple times to not trigger the special condition

[winter pine]

to my current three letter monitor reading me talk about how much I love the Iron Warriors:

[urban spire]

fuck thats loud

[winter pine]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-gif-3646877800214258094

[winter pine]

sorry I forgot about that lmfao

[urban spire]

rofl

[rose thorn]

Who’s our local gaurd pkayer

Player*

Uhh

Who actually owns gaurd mdoles

[urban spire]

guard player killer

[rose thorn]

I got the brood brother KT but there is so many extra weapon options lmao

[near wasp]

Of course you did

[rose thorn]

What do I do with all the extras

[rose thorn]

Gsc player buys gsc

[urban spire]

what the fuck is a brood brother

[rose thorn]

Gsc thing

[urban spire]

huh

[rose thorn]

It’s Genestealer guard

I’ll probably sell all the cadian heads on eBay

But there is like 200 weapons in this

[humble shoal]

played a game with buddy who joined for the free weekend

got 500% toughness regenned

[humble shoal]

penance done

[rose thorn]

I had a dream last night that for grotmas gw released 40K rules for all the HH admech models

Then everyone complained about how bad they were

[near wasp]

Thanks I hate this

[queen laurel]

One of the groups you can play on one of 40ks tabletop game

Killteam

[urban spire]

gsc are cool, shame about the thing

[rose thorn]

and only killteams

[rose thorn]

?

[urban spire]

you know

the trifle

the small issue

the minor inconvenience

[near wasp]

I've still got a chaos kill team sitting on my banister I still haven't taken out the box

[urban spire]

YOU KNOW

[rose thorn]

the arrival of the gods!

[near wasp]

Too far gone

💀

[rose thorn]

no more delusional then any imperium faction

[urban spire]

the small obstacle

[wary fulcrum]

That’s why Necromunda GSC are the best

All the boons of the 4 armed emperor, a few extra growths here and there

And no hive mind to gobble you up

[queen laurel]

Hey if the cult is like really really useful they let them live

Uh

Sometimes

[rose thorn]

necromunda has so many patriarchs its so bad lmao

[near wasp]

I mean kinda, at least they are worshipping the thing they think they are

[rose thorn]

when 2 or more patriarchs are on the same planet it leads to really abd turf wars

[wary fulcrum]

Don’t forget the GSC friendly imagination tech priest

[urban spire]

necromunda is like the catachan of hive worlds

tyranids arrived, failed to conquer, got folded into the local ecosystem

[rose thorn]

gsc are encoded to murder the second sons cult on sihgt

[urban spire]

second sons?

[rose thorn]

yee

[near wasp]

What

[rose thorn]

the secundus guys

broodscum

they are the cult of the second son

[near wasp]

I was just referring to the imperium worshipping big e

[rose thorn]

oh

lol

[urban spire]

that's too many proper nouns, you're going to gay fantasy author jail

[rose thorn]

lmao

[storm jungle]

some cults can go without being vored

GW writers kinda realised its a bit of a lame ending for some cult sso found segways around it

pretty peak

[near wasp]

Why'd you have to word it like that

💀

[storm jungle]

Literally what happens

sorry chum

[queen laurel]

Yeah like the main subfaction cults

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

the main members or even most of the members leave sometimes before the arrival

[queen laurel]

They are usually let go because they're so useful

[urban spire]

not soft vore either

[rose thorn]

and other cults survive purley on splinter uclts

[storm jungle]

Also almost all cults seek to spread themselves to other systems + sectors as well

which is fucking hilarious

[queen laurel]

I'm talking hardcore vore

Like really hardcore

[storm jungle]

oh my god

SHUT UP

[urban spire]

you started it

[queen laurel]

You started it

[urban spire]

pay for your crimes

[storm jungle]

And you kept it going you little green shit

"hardcore" mfer who asked 💀

[urban spire]

lmfao

[rose thorn]

something somethign going to third world countreis osmething something accept Christ for food

[queen laurel]

They get thrown in the vat of bio acid be digested like what do you want me to say it's true

[storm jungle]

[urban spire]

hey it's the one thing mormons and catholics can agree on, non-believers don't count as people

no i'm being unfair

daredevil doesn't ask if you'll convert to catholicism before he saves you

[wary fulcrum]

To be fair, Protestants used to be good at it until the empire fell

[urban spire]

i'm going to show saintly restraint and not go off on another rant about the protestants

[opaque coyote]

...

Ngl

That art goes so hard

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/warning-gif-15403397949888856290

[urban spire]

yeah, hope it's not ai

forgor to check

[shadow plover]

it's MTG art

so no

[rose thorn]

ye

[urban spire]

bad news

[storm jungle]

great news

[arctic talon]

Me when maybe AI generated monster hunter cards

lol

[storm jungle]

the MTG 40k art slaps

[arctic talon]

The MTG 40k art was great

[storm jungle]

monster hutner
AI

Deserved.

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[shadow plover]

well it's old enough to be prior AI art that looked good enough

[rose thorn]

cna someoen post the gsc mtg art lmao

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/paolumu-odogaron-monster-hunter-world-destroy-mhw-gif-12955710175627893233

[urban spire]

oh ok good

[rose thorn]

its realy underused

[storm jungle]

AAAA

[arctic talon]

Which one

[storm jungle]

Which one

theres like tons

lol

[arctic talon]

My favorite one is the rock grinder one

Tbh

[rose thorn]

i think i was thinking of hte rofckgrinder one

[daring creek]

They should add a chain shovel

[storm jungle]

oh my god missus

can you like

shut the fuck up lmao

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[shadow plover]

I have a clip for that

[urban spire]

no she's cooking

[storm jungle]

She was totally normal once and now it feels like she has lost her marbles

mfer comes in every day saying tiktok brainrot

[urban spire]

no one ever mourns my loss of sanity

[queen laurel]

This?

[arctic talon]

Oh it’s not the rock grinder

But yes that one

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's a basic Goliath truck

[urban spire]

which is fine actually because it confirms what i've always known, which is that i'm the most sane person in the room

[rose thorn]

lmao

i sowre there was one wiht an alpha jackal, i havent seen ti n eyars tho

[arctic talon]

What you deserve for hating monster hunter smh my head

[urban spire]

i need to get more into necromunda, but i don't like the uh

game

[queen laurel]

Lore

Read lore

[wary fulcrum]

The lore is worth reading if you can

[arctic talon]

I’m surprised?

Idk

[daring creek]

SEND ME THE MOD RIGHT FUCKING NOW

[shadow plover]

Not mine, probably just the weapon customization mod whatever it was called

[urban spire]

reading lore is fun but i'm a little burnt out on wiki diving

[wary fulcrum]

Underhive Lore Keepers with Spamuel is fun and does some good dives into the background

Sump City Radio just made a return and they’ve had some good stuff

Guilders Ford Radio also exists but I’ve never got round to listening

Obviously wokis and whatnot too

[storm jungle]

the lore is immense yeah

every single rulebook they put out adds more and more to it

Necromunda the planet itself is like also the most fleshed out world in 40k

lol

[arctic talon]

Take bets on if they’re gona keep Aranthus around as ruler

For longer then 3 years irl

[storm jungle]

Probably later for some future plots. Hes been barely around AND got his own mini.

[wary fulcrum]

There’s the books too

But like, at £30 a pop and I think we’re coming up to 20 now?

It’d be insane to expect that from people who’re vaguely interested, 2/3rds of each book won’t apply

[storm jungle]

if the Munda writers are good they'll find some middle-point

they usually coo kvery well

[wary fulcrum]

Spoilers from the new book

||they’ll keep him as a background menace, he’s off to go wake his siblings after Ronty chases him||

[arctic talon]

I’ve not read it so I’m not gona touch this

But interesting to see it’s been developed already

[urban spire]

i want to write underhive stuff but i don't want to be too influenced by necromunda, which is probably an irrational worry

[storm jungle]

Yeah called it

[storm jungle]

its really easy not to

Munda has a lot of planet-specific shit

AND remember that its written that way to inspire you for your own underhive stuff as well

[arctic talon]

yeah

as long as you don't copy the clan houses

you're already more distinict lol

the clan houses are such a huge part of munda

[queen laurel]

Yeah like watch this I will make a totally original gang that is not related to Necro in any way

they are called the Steel Heads

They specialize in jury rigging weapons and are nomadic move with jury-rigged vehicles, They usually have metal skulls

Boom

Easy

[urban spire]

yeah alright, sounds like we're gettin into necromunda

[daring creek]

Aw you thought I was normal at one point? Why?

[storm jungle]

You were definitely acting like one

gonna tape your mouth shut

[daring creek]

Oh my god lmfao.

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shut-up-gif-25699987

[daring creek]

I literally walked in here talking about how much I want to be a dreadnought

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer-40k-dreadnaught-gif-3420657561926638876

Transition goals^

Thinking about stealing my fathers pc monitor still.

[storm jungle]

That was before you entered being normal

gonna slap you on the head again if you keep this up

[daring creek]

[urban spire]

hey you're supposed to stop saying egg shit once you're out

[daring creek]

[near wasp]

Missus genuinely are you ok

[sleek rock]

Oh, to be a carcass floating in a cold tub of gel, never truly experiencing anything, while being aware of having two bodies - a cold, organic, ruined one and a cold, unfeeling, metal one

No true sensation, no taste, no smell, no sights to enjoy with your organic eyes which you may not even have anymore

[winged jacinth]

Hey at least i'd get a good night's sleep between wars

[sleek rock]

Stasis isn't even a real sleep

Dreadnoughts require therapy. And a hug.

But alas, they cannot even feel a hug

[queen laurel]

I genuinely gave up her brain patterns is somehow more erratic than laati's

[winged jacinth]

They should add an upgraded power shovel and it would look like this

[urban spire]

add more tech levels of shovel, like steam shovel

[winged jacinth]

The next class is shovel focused this is their blitz

[urban spire]

finally the admech class

[near wasp]

Laati isn't that bad imo

[daring creek]

It's not that bad

[near wasp]

Maybe I'm just used to it because I'm adhd

[daring creek]

anyway

any of you fw country humans

https://tenor.com/view/solarballs-alvaro-alvaro-calmet-gigachad-gigachad-meme-gif-8778916528309985846

[sleek rock]

https://tenor.com/view/concern-concern-meme-40k-tech-priest-commissar-gif-19826274

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/scaler-create-impact-relax-gif-25012098

[urban spire]

it's called dissociation it came free with your trauma

[daring creek]

trve

https://tenor.com/view/countryhumans-country-humans-gif-11836921553704947567

[queen laurel]

I know that's the point

[daring creek]

I think one of them auto deleted

[daring creek]

😭

Also I'm fine, I'm eating :p

[near wasp]

You know it's bad when I'm getting whiplash

[daring creek]

don't tell any one that

delete that!

delete!!

then delete lol!

anyway hm

Chipotle..

[urban spire]

you mentioned the thing! i thought it was fine! anyway sorry

[daring creek]

I bought up country humans because I was suddenly reminded of a very

very particular CIA human art

[daring creek]

all good

unfortnately I cannot post it here for like 50 reasons

But holyshit lmfao

[near wasp]

I'm pretty sure you mentioned it yourself at some point

But I digress

[urban spire]

the brain is the way it is

[near wasp]

True

ADHD is a bitch

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-swag-cat-cute-moves-gif-16543652

[surreal nest]

Chipotle gave me the lethal shits

[near wasp]

I've had to function on my own without meds for years

[daring creek]

thats what made it good

[surreal nest]

Ive never shot out water before till I had Chipotle

[urban spire]

that sucks

[daring creek]

water jet shits

[celest dome]

@brazen tartan

[brazen tartan]

Right

I'm not sure if it just has the encroaching ruin dominion because there's no rule for undivided as an option

But the title of demon prince of the primordial annhilator is pretty explicit lol

[celest dome]

Primordial Annihilator is Chaos as a whole

The Encroaching Ruin isn't coalesced yet

[brazen tartan]

Do you not see the conflict? He can't be both

[celest dome]

Cause he isn't

He is a Daemon Prince of Chaos, but his domain isn't coalesced yet, it default to Undivided

[opaque coyote]

I love how it could be wrong (in-universe)

because they basically got it from captured crack addict chaos worshippers

the problem is that most chaos worshippers are basically crack addicts

[celest dome]

It is implied to be right, unless the rules given are also wrong.
There are only 8 Aetheric Domains, and Primordial Annihilator isn't one of those

[winged jacinth]

Wheres the varia suit? The morph ball?? Its like the rules people don't know any lore

Not even super missiles

[brazen tartan]

There's some indication that the dark king would reign supreme over the other four (hence being the primordial annhilator), which makes encroaching ruin a tad confusing

[daring creek]

What do you think the emperors fursona is

[opaque coyote]

tbf yeah it definitely is, they just leave it as a door to be retconned in case

[daring creek]

maybe its a possum

[opaque coyote]

like if they want to add new domains

they would just say

"the crack addicts didn't know that much"

[celest dome]

What indication ?

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/peacemaker-gif-6035806455491816105

I feel like an eagle stepping on you would hurt like a motherfucker

[urban spire]

yeah that's why falconers wear those gloves

[brazen tartan]

Its birth wouldn't have been like the others, it basically would have ended the setting in its entirety

[storm jungle]

No it would, this is said in the book

it would literally just be Slaanesh's birth but for humans as is also said in the novel

The 4 want him to become a Chaos God as well, they exactly know whats going to happen

[brazen tartan]

So again my point is the dark king doesn't seem to be encroaching ruin

[celest dome]

Well he isn't Primordial Annhilator 🤷

[storm jungle]

Also as per the lore/the way the Warp works hes always gonna happen

[urban spire]

do humans have enough juice to do an eldar level creation event?

[brazen tartan]

Such a thing. In her wildest visions, she could never have imagined such a creature. The universe is not big enough to contain him. The cardinal powers of Chaos are but ghosts in his shadow, and the almighty warp obeys his voice, helpless in his tidal pull.

[plush mason]

yes just because of the uncountable number of them iirc

[celest dome]

They have the throne, the whole new Eye of Terror...

[urban spire]

wasn't the eye of terror made by the fall of the eldar

[celest dome]

It was made by the coalescence of Slaanesh

But the throne is sealing a new eye of terror

[storm jungle]

Yes. The spawning of the DK would also be from the entire Horus Heresy and the bloodshed/chaos it created

[plush mason]

even though each human is little more than a candle next to an eldar in terms of psykic power there is many trillions of them for every 1 eldar

[urban spire]

yeah but there used to be more eldar, and before the eldar had enough juice to make slaanesh they made a bunch of minor gods, right?

[storm jungle]

Yeah but thats not really related.

Basically the entirety of the Horus Heresy was the buildup to the Dark King's creation

and as per the book and the way the Warp works hes already created

we just havent gotten it in 40k yet

[plush mason]

even the Tau and their various allied races have managed to manifest a warp god

[storm jungle]

Yep and they are way smaller

though the Tauva is nowhere near as massive of a deity

[plush mason]

yup

[brazen tartan]

The book says it would be worse. That it's not just another god

[urban spire]

books say a lot of things

don't reckon gw is ready to endtimes 40k yet